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Yup, it's that time of year. The Oscars are right around the corner, I'm scraping ice off my car every morning, and my cats are fighting to establish springtime supremacy. Baseball is coming.
I just renewed the baseball league on Yahoo, so those of you who are using the same emails as last year should have invites waiting for you. As in previous years, if you're using a new email, please PM me the new one so I can have another invite sent out.
We had 12 teams last year, but can expand to 14 if the demand is there. If you're interested but haven't played, just reply to throw your cap into the ring. We give priority to returning owners and regular site users, but it sure doesn't hurt to ask.
I'm proposing a draft date of Sunday, March 15th, with a backup of the following week, March 22nd, both at 1:00 PM ET (10:00 AM PT). Please reply by letting me know if you're available for both, so that if people can't make it on the 15th I already know whether or not the 22nd is viable without having to ask everyone again. And the sooner you can accept your email invite to lock your team in, the better.
I'll update the list of participants here as they sign up:
Yoda (Freedonia Ducks)
seanc (Mudville Nine)
mark f (Dodgers)
rauldc14 (Peanuts&Crackerjacks)
TONGO (The Naturals)
Banknotes Harper (CoinSkinsBanknotes )
The Loose Seals (Frightened Inmate No. 2)
The Russell Wilson 9 (Powdered Water)
Done and Dunn (mikeython1)
Clockwork Angels (Sedai)
Quickie Marte (Adamantium18)
voneil's Team (voneil7)
Who's in?
Also, now's the time to bring up any requested/suggested rule changes.
Tim mentioned to me the other day that he'd like to expand the categories to 6x6 (6 offensive and 6 pitching, as opposed to the 5x5 format we use now). I think he'll be popping in later to make his case, but for the record, I'm in favor of the idea. However, it's a significant change, so it'll only happen if a lot of you are on board with it. As always, the more feedback, the better. :)
I'd also floated the idea of a transaction limit, but the highest Yahoo allows is 100, and that actually seems a tad low (between the time after the draft and the season itself, that's an average of 0.5 transactions a day). I'm open-minded on this, though, since it just adds to the variables each owner has to consider and has plenty of strategy built into it.
I'm in till I stop breathing.
What two categories would we add?
Back in because every league needs a punching bag, and lately that's me.
Oh, and available both those dates.
Tim was talking about adding Holds for pitchers (which really opens up the relief pitching corps across the league) and either OBP or OPS for offense.
By the way, I've finished 2nd two years in a row and three of the last four years.
No, I'm not bitter. Why? Do I sound bitter? Shut up, you sound bitter.
rauldc14
02-16-15, 11:26 AM
In! For sure available 15th, not sure about 22 as I may be out of town that weekend but that's not a certainty.
I'm down for Holds and OBP. I'm not a huge fan of OPS. I feel like it is just another way to favor power guys.
I lean the same way (re: OBP over OPS), especially since OBP is more widely known anyway.
I think including Holds is a super interesting way to increase the number of relevant players across the league, and cut down on the insanity of the saves chasing.
Ahem. :p
I'm proposing a draft date of Sunday, March 15th, with a backup of the following week, March 22nd, both at 1:00 PM ET (10:00 AM PT). Please reply by letting me know if you're available for both, so that if people can't make it on the 15th I already know whether or not the 22nd is viable without having to ask everyone again.
As of now I am available for both dates. :)
I'm in both dates - till I stop breathing.
Banknotes Harper
02-16-15, 01:37 PM
I'm in!
And as Chris said, I'd like to propose that we go to a 6 x 6 format this year, rather than 5 x 5. The main driving force was me wanting to add another hitting category, OPS or OBP (I prefer OPS, myself), but in order to do so, we'd also have to add a pitching category. Of all of the pitching categories that we don't play with, I think holds are the best. If you're not familiar with holds, here's the wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hold_%28baseball%29
Adding holds means that relievers become more valuable in general since reliable 7th and 8th inning guys can contribute to your team. I played with it in my other league last year and the consensus was that everybody liked it.
Banknotes Harper
02-16-15, 01:38 PM
Both dates should be okay for me.
rauldc14
02-16-15, 02:28 PM
What about quality starts?
Usually if Quality Starts are a category, they simply replace Wins. Which I would also be all for, by the way. Far less random.
rauldc14
02-16-15, 02:43 PM
It was just a suggestion. I've never actually done a league with that, BTW.
I wasn't putting the idea down--it's a great suggestion, provided we replace Wins. If we don't there's just a lot of overlap between the two.
As a replacement, though, it's great because it rewards a lot of the same things as Wins, but in a way that's actually under a pitcher's control (as opposed to however the offense happens to perform that day). I'd be all for it.
Holds is fine with me for the pitching stat.
Banknotes Harper
02-16-15, 03:43 PM
I'd also be into replacing wins with QS, especially if we play with holds. The main reason that I prefer it is because it would eliminate reliever wins and rebalance starters and relievers a bit. (Since only starters can record a QS and only relievers can record H/Sv)
Banknotes Harper
02-16-15, 06:14 PM
Regarding transaction limit: I would be okay with setting the cap at 100
Banknotes Harper
02-16-15, 10:43 PM
Regarding transaction limit: I would be okay with setting the cap at 100
Actually, I would be okay with 100, if we do NOT adopt holds. In my experience, holds guys get shuffled around a good bit so that would probably drive up the number a bit.
No holds, I think 100 is plenty; with them, I'd vote no.
rauldc14
02-17-15, 12:34 AM
The pre-draft rankings seem a bit screwy don't they? I mean I know that people projected high don't do well and vice versa, but I would never predict it to go the way they have it.
Sorry Chris, yes Im available both dates.
100 moves?! Wow, that's low! Ive gotten more moves than that in Fantasy Football. Hey Ill play with whatever, but that does seem low.
Im ok with Holds and the other category for scoring, but want to keep Wins over quality starts. Wins is indicative of a team effort, and Quality Starts is too pitcher specific. Yes I know that's the point but it then devalues the Holds guys you just allowed in from getting you some Wins. Just too much tinkering all at once it seems.
Frightened Inmate No. 2
02-17-15, 01:08 AM
as of now, i think the 15th would be a little better for me.
rauldc14
02-17-15, 01:08 AM
I vote just keep it the same. But I don't care any way really.
Powdered Water
02-17-15, 09:45 AM
Would you be so kind as to re-send?
[email protected]. Didn't come through for some reason.
Powdered Water
02-17-15, 09:47 AM
Nevermind. I found it in my other email. In!
How about the dates; do both the 15th and 22nd work?
Re: Quality Starts being pitcher-specific. Well, yeah, that's the idea, isn't it? We're trying to measure player skill, not team skill. I think "too much all at once" is reasonable, though. It might be a bit much to add two new categories and replace another.
So far, I'm not hearing any objections to adding Holds, or to adding OBP (and the only objection to OPS being sean saying he prefers OBP).
So, let's do an official roll call deal: does anyone object to adding Holds and OBP as categories this year? Speak now or forever yadda yadda.
I'm on board.
Are we also discussing maximum transactions, because I would be on board with that as well.
I think Tim's right in that we probably shouldn't have a limit if we're adding Holds. 100 is a little on the restrictive side anyway, but with Holds in the mix it could be really tough to maneuver around.
rauldc14
02-17-15, 11:57 AM
How does a hold officially work anyway. Just keeping a lead like a starter?
Here's the definition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hold_%28baseball%29). It sounds more complicated than it is, but the basic idea is a reliever who comes in and holds onto a small lead without getting the win or save.
So, when one of those 8th-inning guys comes in and holds the lead until the closer saves it in the 9th, he gets a hold.
The idea behind adding it is that it suddenly makes all those middle reliever guys interesting, whereas before they were largely just insurance against closer injuries and/or for people speculating for saves.
Nostromo87
02-17-15, 12:06 PM
Holds is a great category
there are lots of quality relievers who aren't Closers every year
Banknotes Harper
02-17-15, 12:29 PM
How does a hold officially work anyway. Just keeping a lead like a starter?
They're almost the exact same rules as saves (come in w/ a small lead, record at least one out, preserve lead), but the difference is that a pitcher needs to finish a game to get a save whereas holds are awarded to guys who meet that criteria without finishing the game. It's also worth noting that unlike a save, a guy on a losing team can get a hold; if the closer blows the save and/or loses the game, the guys who earned holds still get them.
rauldc14
02-17-15, 02:29 PM
I'm just pumped that the Marlins might have a shot to surprise this year. We will see though.
Nostromo87
02-17-15, 03:02 PM
So, let's do an official roll call deal: does anyone object to adding Holds and OBP as categories this year? Speak now or forever yadda yadda.
I will chime in although i'm still trying to decide if i'm joining or not, since i'm involved in another baseball league with college friends
Draft works best for me on the 15th
Holds is a simple concept. A relief pitcher gets an opportunity for a hold when he comes into the game and his team has a lead of 3 runs or less. He earns a hold when his team still has the lead when he gets pulled for the next relief pitcher. This brings more quality players into the player pool and is a strong addition to any league such as this
OBP (On-Base %) is a good addition. This rewards batters who walk a lot. Good example last year is Carlos Santana. He started the year awful, with a Batting Average of like .150 through the first month+. BUT he walked a lot, led the majors in walks for the season. He was probably dropped in all the leagues that didn't count OBP or Walks. Yet if your league had walks you'd have been more tempted to keep him. He went on to catch fire in the summer and reward anyone who snatched him up after he was dropped, or who held onto him through his struggles
rauldc14
02-17-15, 05:05 PM
Does a pitcher get a hold if say they record one out but load the bases and another pitcher comes in?
Banknotes Harper
02-17-15, 05:18 PM
Does a pitcher get a hold if say they record one out but load the bases and another pitcher comes in?
It should come down to whether those runners score or not. If the first pitcher gets an out, puts the tying run on base, comes out, and the new pitcher gives up, say, a homer, then the first pitcher blew the save (hold) and would not get one.
If the first pitcher comes in with a 2 run lead, bases empty, walks one guy, comes out, and the new guy gives up a home run, then I think the first guy still gets the hold, but I'm not 100% sure.
My general feeling is that sometimes the rules for holds can get complicated, like this example, but if I was following my holds guys during a game last year, I knew if they were getting the hold before the official decisions came down 9 times out of 10.
Nostromo87
02-17-15, 05:25 PM
if a relief pitcher gets pulled and his runners are still on base → and those runners score surrendering the lead → the pitcher that got pulled does not get a hold.
Those runners got on base under his watch and in this scenario the runs will be charged to him- the guy who got pulled
The same process is applied to starters when they get pulled as far as runners they left out there scoring and the runs being charged to the starter
mikeython1
02-17-15, 08:24 PM
Im in! :D
Something I didnt consider earlier, but will Yahoo give a tally on the Players page for OBP or Holds? If they dont then I dont think we should add the categories.
Yup, OBP is everywhere (even on jumbotrons these days), and Holds are on the player profile pages.
So far I'm hearing zero objections to adding OBP/Holds, and zero objections to drafting on the 15th with the 22nd as a possible backup. I'm gonna give it a few more days in case someone hasn't seen all this, but if nobody's objected by early next week, I think it's fair to say the changes are approved. :)
I'm thinking OBP, because 1) it's more widespread and b) you said you preferred it, and I think a significant change like this should have everyone as on-board as possible.
I'm thinking OBP, because 1) it's more widespread and b) you said you preferred it, and I think a significant change like this should have everyone as on-board as possible.
Cool. Then to answer Tongo's question further. OBP has been on baseball cards since God knows when. You should be able to find it on the interwebs. ;)
FYI, just talked to Adam and he's fine with the changes and the initial draft time, so yay there.
Banknotes Harper
02-18-15, 04:19 PM
In OPS versus OBP, my vote is for OPS. Though it seems like I'm in the minority on this; I might even be the minority on this.
Well if we can get syj back (has he been around?), and Nostromo in, and maybe someone else in, then thatd make a 14 team league -fistpump!- which is allright. Think of all the players youll discover in talent pool that you never wouldve otherwise known existed
Deeper leagues just aren't as fun, because they get to be less and less fantasy as the league grows larger. My fantasy is not to have half a roster full of chumps that I have to agonize over with little or no return. I want all the studs! :D ;)
Scarcity = fun. Everyone knows this. :D
syj hasn't been around in awhile, so I reached out to a couple of other baseball fans on the site/former owners, but neither was available this year. So I've invited syj back--I think the spot should be his, as a returning owner, but let's just wait until Monday or Tuesday to see if he claims it. If not, I've got a backup (a friend of myself/Tim's) that should be willing to fill in.
So yeah, you can breathe easy: should just be 12 again this year.
I will play in a 20 team league is necessary, but the smaller it is, the better chance I have at...who am I kidding - you win this, right? ;)
I dunno, I haven't won it in awhile, though I've always been in the mix.
My finishes the last four years are 2nd, 4th, 2nd, and 2nd.
This year, you get nothing!
Ive got to find patience. I find patience, then I find trophy. Tongo in zone.
Okay, still no objections to the new categories or draft times, so unless someone speaks up, I'm going to lock these in tomorrow.
I'll also be finalizing the owners' list. syj hasn't responded to multiple email invitations, but I'll give him until tomorrow. If he doesn't get back to us, I've got another former owner who's ready to step in as an alternate. Either way, we should have everything locked down tomorrow.
Okay, we're all confirmed! 12 teams again this year, 11 returning owners, OBP and Holds added as categories, and the draft is March 15th at 1:00 PM ET, 10:00 AM PT.
The final owner is voneil7, AKA Vince. :) Some of you guys probably remember that Vince played with us in 2011. He's been away from the site for awhile, but he came back on Sunday, which is pretty incredible timing given that we needed just one fill-in owner and were coming up on the deadline.
Welcome back Vince! :)
rauldc14
02-25-15, 11:29 AM
And I'll be at the draft! Looking forward to it!
Welcome back Vince Neil! Still gigging with Motley Crue? ;)
Allright! All set! Also thrilled to see Yahoo provides Holds & OBP in the player categories, didnt know there was that option.
mikeython1
02-28-15, 01:52 PM
So are we going to have both OPS and OBP?
mikeython1
02-28-15, 04:52 PM
So we are removing OPS and Wins?
Avg. HR Runs SB RBI OBP
W ERA WHIP K S HD
We're not removing anything, we're adding two, one for hitting and one for pitching.
OPS was being considered along with OBP for the hitting category, but we were always going to just add one of the two.
mikeython1
02-28-15, 05:36 PM
Okay I get it now. :p
Firing off a couple of mock drafts! ;)
Firing off a couple of mock drafts! ;)
So have I. The last one was sweet, and Im dreaming if I think Id get those picks on the 15th. Find it hard to "target" OBP in a draft. Its more like avoiding players with bad ones, kinda like Batting Average.
Two more weeks............
My baseball team is completely upended, and curious to see how Coach Cash does. Youngest manager in MLB, great. Our pitching staff is intact after Price leaving, and we wont have to suffer Grant Balfours closing knowing going-in unlike last season. Losing Zobrist, Price, Madden, Yunel Escobar, and even Matt Joyce. This is gonna be interesting.
As for my fantasy team, I have no clue. Just hope I draft good, and play different than I have up to this point in Roto. You never know, Roy Hobbs may have one more in him. ;)
Hey, you all want to do a Mock Draft with each other? We can rangle as many people together as we can and just do it on the fly at a specific time.
Damn, missed this. I would have been up for it!
I am not putting much stock in these mocks, as I have just done 12-team drafts so far, which run differently than our league will. With so many alleged studs going bust last season, it's really just a crap shoot, anyway!
We're a 12-team league. I usually run only one mock draft a year.
Not 14 this year? ;)
Glad to hear we are 12...
*Calls up mock results*
Who is taking a flier on Venditte?
mikeython1
03-06-15, 01:04 AM
Hey Yoda have you ever considered generating the draft order ahead of time?
Haven't considered it, but I'm willing to. I think we'd have to come up with a fun (but also fair) way of generating it, though. Maybe a random order to draft draft picks? IE: we randomize the order people get to choose, but they can then choose the 5th instead of the 1st, etc.
Maybe whoever came in last gets to pick their spot. :D
Haven't considered it, but I'm willing to. I think we'd have to come up with a fun (but also fair) way of generating it, though. Maybe a random order to draft draft picks? IE: we randomize the order people get to choose, but they can then choose the 5th instead of the 1st, etc.
Well how would they do it in real life? Last place team picks first and first place team picks last, etc...? Either way it does seem a more structured way to do it compared to a random shot every year. Im down with whatever. :up:
In real life last place picks first, but they also pick first in each round. Our draft is snake style, and teams start over every year so "bad" teams don't need the same leg up, either, so it's a bit different.
Anyway, I think it's a little late for this year (unless everyone gets back to us in this thread in the next few days), but that could be fun for next year. It'd still be random at its core (because we'd be randomly picking the order for who gets to choose), but with an element of choice and strategy on top of it.
This all depends on where I actually end up in the draft. If it's a spot I like? Great idea! If it's a spot I dislike? The idea is terrible and Tongo cheated.
mikeython1
03-06-15, 07:14 PM
Baseball is such a different Beast than Football. There is so much more research involved. It would be nice to know your draft pick a week or two ahead of time regardless of the method for generating the draft order . If u have a bad draft your in for a long season. :yup:
Banknotes Harper
03-06-15, 08:59 PM
I'd be okay with randomly determining the order ahead of time.
That's what happens now. Did you mean randomly determining the order and then letting people choose their position based on that order?
Banknotes Harper
03-06-15, 09:02 PM
That said, I think the benefit of knowing really only helps you with the first four rounds of the draft. After that point, I feel like draft order matters less and less.
Banknotes Harper
03-06-15, 09:06 PM
That's what happens now. Did you mean randomly determining the order and then letting people choose their position based on that order?
Well, that idea is cool, but that would be the hardest to implement given that we're 9 days away (we'd need agreement, to actually do the random thing, and then hear back from all of the managers IN ORDER). So, I'd be into that, but we'd have to get moving ASAP.
I'd also be okay with randomly generating the order, like the computer does on draft day, now-ish, just so everyone knows the order ahead of time and can plan a little bit.
rauldc14
03-06-15, 09:30 PM
I'll take pick 1.
Who do we need to hear from? We got 9 days and were all involved enough to check our teams everyday, to do a draft change before the 15th IMO shouldnt be hard, and thats getting everyones input. Cmon, lets do this...
A) Everything stays the same
B) Random order determined earlier so preparations can be made draft day
C) Last place team picks first and first place team picks last. I like this one, and if we can do it like they do in MLB rather than serpentine thats even better. Also you have the benefit of knowing where youll be in the draft order beforehand like choice B.
Banknotes Harper
03-07-15, 03:52 PM
Who do we need to hear from? We got 9 days and were all involved enough to check our teams everyday, to do a draft change before the 15th IMO shouldnt be hard, and thats getting everyones input. Cmon, lets do this...
A) Everything stays the same
B) Random order determined earlier so preparations can be made draft day
C) Last place team picks first and first place team picks last. I like this one, and if we can do it like they do in MLB rather than serpentine thats even better. Also you have the benefit of knowing where youll be in the draft order beforehand like choice B.
D) What Chris proposed earlier: randomly draw an order, use that order to let the person who draws #1 select their draft position (1st pick, 2nd pick, etc), #2 selects their draft position from what's remaining, and so on.
Going on record, I'd be into D, B, A, C, in that order.
D) What Chris proposed earlier: randomly draw an order, use that order to let the person who draws #1 select their draft position (1st pick, 2nd pick, etc), #2 selects their draft position from what's remaining, and so on.
Going on record, I'd be into D, B, A, C, in that order.
Oh. Sorry to Chris. I didnt grasp thats what you were saying. Sure that works too.
rauldc14
03-07-15, 04:35 PM
D, B, A, C for me
Frightened Inmate No. 2
03-07-15, 04:52 PM
D, B, A, C
I like B, A, then whatever the crowd decides
Definitely can't be C, because picking first every round would be a massive advantage and lead to late season tanking, too. And the only reason MLB does it is because bad teams return the same rosters. We redraft here, so we don't need to use the draft to help parity.
I like D best, too, but there's almost no chance everyone will sign off in time.
B, on the other hand, would still be random and wouldn't, in my opinion, require that everyone sign off. Everyone gets to find out a little in advance, and the only people who don't are the ones who aren't following any of this anyway.
If nobody has a specific objection, I think B is the fairest way to go on short notice. I could generate the order tomorrow, giving everyone exactly one week of advance notice. And then we can raise this issue earlier next season to try for D.
rauldc14
03-07-15, 05:10 PM
Works for me :up:
The draft order, randomly generated just now:
seanc (Mudville Nine)
Banknotes Harper (CoinSkinsBanknotes)
rauldc14 (Peanuts&Crackerjacks)
mark f (Dodgers)
Frightened Inmate No. 2 (The Loose Seals)
Adamantium18 (Quickie Marte)
voneil7 (voneil's Team)
Powdered Water (The Russell Wilson 9)
Sedai (Clockwork Angels)
Yoda (Freedonia Ducks)
mikeython1 (Done and Dunn)
TONGO (The Naturals)
I don't usually love first pick but I'll take Trout.
This is helpful Yoda thanks for generating it early. Should really help anybody that needs to auto draft.
Banknotes Harper
03-08-15, 03:31 PM
Yeah, thanks, Chris. I think this was a good idea. If we remember, we can pursue choice D next year given some extra time.
Separately: 2nd pick! Maybe, just maybe, this will be my opportunity to draft my future best friend, Andrew McCutchen.
mikeython1
03-08-15, 04:19 PM
I got the eleventh pick! :mad: I think we should go back to 30 minutes prior to the draft! ;)
rauldc14
03-08-15, 07:59 PM
Welcome home, Giancarlo!
rauldc14
03-08-15, 08:01 PM
Or a man named Kershaw. Either way, :up:
The draft order, randomly generated just now:
seanc (Mudville Nine)
Banknotes Harper (CoinSkinsBanknotes)
rauldc14 (Peanuts&Crackerjacks)
mark f (Dodgers)
Frightened Inmate No. 2 (The Loose Seals)
Adamantium18 (Quickie Marte)
voneil7 (voneil's Team)
Powdered Water (The Russell Wilson 9)
Sedai (Clockwork Angels)
Yoda (Freedonia Ducks)
mikeython1 (Done and Dunn)
TONGO (The Naturals)
Ah #&%!! LAST?! Last?! Last is ass! Sigh. dayum :( I pick choice A.
First 3 picks most likely have been determined....
Sean picks Mike Trout
Tim most likely picks Andrew McCutchen
Dustin most likely picks Giancarlo Stanton
and now Mark, but dont assume he'll take Clayton Kershaw.
Banknotes Harper
03-08-15, 11:44 PM
I don't mind saying this, I'm either taking Cutch or Giancarl. Can't see myself taking anybody else.
HM! I did a couple mock drafts at 12 position. Have to say, not too shabby. Not too shabby indeed. Ok I pick B. :)
And now's as good a time as any to go over two things that cause confusion each year (I'll repost these in the thread we create to discuss the season, post-draft):
1) When players go on waivers. The rule is that every dropped player goes on waivers unless they're being dropped the same day they were picked up. This is a good exception because otherwise it would be easy for someone to "block" lots of players by picking them up and dropping them again.
2) When lineups are overwritten. Yahoo allows you to set your lineup for upcoming days in advance. If you don't, it will carry your current lineup forward until you change it.
But the big, big caveat that comes up every year is that it won't carry your current lineup forward if you have a transaction go through after. So if you set your lineup, and the next day your waiver goes through, your lineup might not be the way you left it. The reason is that Yahoo has no way to arbitrate which players of yours get priority when comparing one roster to the next.
This is tricky because on one hand it's reasonable (the system would have to make guesses as to your likely intention if it didn't do this), but on the other, it feels counterintuitive. The main takeaway is that Yahoo carries your whole roster forward, not just the starters, so if you change that roster--even if the new player is just replacing someone on your bench--that resets the roster.
I think I finally have issue two down. Finally got it through my thick skull! ;)
Adjusting my draft approach for the later slot - so far, I actually end up with better teams in mocks when I draft late.
rauldc14
03-10-15, 11:41 AM
I'm just beyond pumped to actually make the draft this year! Gonna be a blast!
I am soooo hoping a certain player drops to the 12th pick, but the chance is slim to none.
Could happen - I already see multiple 1B in the first round, and I tend to find that there are solid 1B available through the first 3-4 rounds, so perhaps grabbing that stud 1-bagger might not be the best value when other positions dry up way faster...
Or, is it?? ;)
Banknotes Harper
03-10-15, 01:45 PM
I am soooo hoping a certain player drops to the 12th pick, but the chance is slim to none.
Mike Trout lol
I was thinking Encarnacion, but since his spot actually goes up a few slots in 6x6, I wouldn't count on him making very far into the round.
Banknotes Harper
03-10-15, 02:21 PM
I was thinking Encarnacion, but since his spot actually goes up a few slots in 6x6, I wouldn't count on him making very far into the round.
I either wanted to facetiously guess somebody really good (so Trout) or some fringe-ownable player on the Rays, like James Loney.
Tongs, are you still shipping the Rays all night long? I thought that perhaps you may have abandoned ship in that regard...
Not going to draft-up or trade-up for any Rays. Im not even targetting them. Ive done alot of mocks at 12 spot, and only Ray thats been on my roster consistently since hes fallen to later rounds is Longoria. No Im not drafting him rds 1-4, but am in 5th. Last year he was very Unlongolike.
I pulled Longo in the fifth of a mock I did - seems like good placement for him currently.
Powdered Water
03-11-15, 09:31 PM
Once again I plan to employ the "no research at all technique..." I find it to be very effective. Imagine how much better at this I would be if I actually watched Baseball games
rauldc14
03-11-15, 09:39 PM
I am soooo hoping a certain player drops to the 12th pick, but the chance is slim to none.
You can always make a trade :)
rauldc14
03-12-15, 12:45 AM
Has the pick time always been 30 seconds? I tried a mock 3 times and ran out of time with a pick selection every time. Don't remember having that problem before lol.
It was 90 seconds before.
rauldc14
03-12-15, 01:49 AM
Maybe that just the mocks
Yeah. I think that's just the mocks.
Im kind of laughing to myself as I have all these Mocks Ive done, and all these great names Im able to consistently get on most of the drafts, and I just know they wont be available during the real one. There is no avoiding those draft day surprises.
Just a few more days MoFos for what will determine your fantasy success or failure for the next 6 months.......Dun dun DUN!!!
Yeah, I've got leanings and strategies, but ultimately you have to be willing to bend. If you want to do X and everyone else is doing it, you have to take what the other owners give you and snatch up something else, and then find a way to make it work.
I have a pretty clear strategy every year, and while baseball makes it a lot easier to follow this compared to football (more roster spots, so it turns less on any individual pick), I've definitely come to the conclusion that you have to be able to zag if one of the positions you're not targeting yet is sitting there at a really good value, and all the guys at the other position you'd hoped would be there just aren't. So I've got a strong leaning in a few ways, but I'm definitely willing to make an exception if the value just isn't there.
Yeah, I've got leanings and strategies, but ultimately you have to be willing to bend. If you want to do X and everyone else is doing it, you have to take what the other owners give you and snatch up something else, and then find a way to make it work.
I have a pretty clear strategy every year, and while baseball makes it a lot easier to follow this compared to football (more roster spots, so it turns less on any individual pick), I've definitely come to the conclusion that you have to be able to zag if one of the positions you're not targeting yet is sitting there at a really good value, and all the guys at the other position you'd hoped would be there just aren't. So I've got a strong leaning in a few ways, but I'm definitely willing to make an exception if the value just isn't there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqHSbMR_udo
Youre right. What's sad is after deciding Ill be more malleable and fluid going forward, I then started writing down a new draft strategy, but thats counterproductive to a fluid approach. :facepalm: Must un-tongo myself.
Note to Self: Tongo must tango!
Going to run a mock or two :)
Anyone up for it?
I am Mock Draft Burnout. Can do no mo, they all blend together now.....
Less than 2 days :)
Yup. Sunday afternoon people. The 15th. Don't forget!
rauldc14
03-13-15, 08:18 PM
The mocks I've ran I haven't felt like I got who I wanted in the second round....here's hoping that will change.
Less than 24 hours! My first post from my first smartphone!
Has anyone ever won a football or baseball fantasy season after drafting last? Just asking if someone knows offhand.
No, but then, we haven't had a champion from most draft slows. Here they are by year, champion and draft slot:
2009: Me, 8th
2010: Me, 11th
2011: TONGO, 10th
2012: Dex, 4th
2013: mikey, 1st
2014: Adam, 7th
No, but then, we haven't had a champion from most draft slows. Here they are by year, champion and draft slot:
2009: Me, 8th
2010: Me, 11th
2011: TONGO, 10th
2012: Dex, 4th
2013: mikey, 1st
2014: Adam, 7th
Man you must have everything compartmentalized for rapid recall! Thanks for the answer and with you winning at 11th and me winning at 10th I feel 12th isnt so insurmountable.
It's all about 9th this year, folks...
I wont lie, the three I'm most worried about are Mark, PW, and Seds. Plain fact is they're due. Especially Mark in baseball where I think he's gotten second place 3 times.
rauldc14
03-15-15, 10:10 AM
4 hours!
Mark is so good! He is definitely due, that's for sure.
Primed and ready. :cool:
3 hours to go....... :eek:
Man you must have everything compartmentalized for rapid recall! Thanks for the answer and with you winning at 11th and me winning at 10th I feel 12th isnt so insurmountable.
I looked it up. :laugh:
But yeah, draft position isn't too dispositive, I don't think. Especially in baseball.
I wont lie, the three I'm most worried about are Mark, PW, and Seds. Plain fact is they're due. Especially Mark in baseball where I think he's gotten second place 3 times.
Yeah, 2009, 2010, and 2012. But then, I've finished 2nd three of the last four years. So who's due-ier?
rauldc14
03-15-15, 12:23 PM
My mom is trying to get me to miss the baseball draft by looking at houses.
mikeython1
03-15-15, 12:51 PM
My mom is trying to get me to miss the baseball draft by looking at houses.
No Excuses! ;)
Houses only last you a decade or two. Pretend championships are forever.
Banknotes Harper
03-15-15, 12:52 PM
My mom is trying to get me to miss the baseball draft by looking at houses.
"Having a place to live is nice, mom, but flags fly forever."
rauldc14
03-15-15, 01:22 PM
I'll be there. It will just be last minute. If a time out could he taken I'd appreciate it :).
30 minutes. Done around 20 mocks. Think I overprepared and am more nervous now than excited. Hope my roster isn't the one infected by the DL Flu this season.
Draft's in five minutes, people:
http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1/68210
Frightened Inmate No. 2
03-15-15, 02:07 PM
i'm on, but it's been saying "Connecting to draft server" for the last 10 minutes.
Refresh. If it doesn't work, try another browser. That works 95% of the time.
Definitely important to do the "Test System Setup" thing prior to draft time...
Other things to try: using a different device (mobile if you're on desktop, or vice-versa), seeing if you have a firewall blocking you. But if it doesn't connect in 60 seconds, it's pretty much not going to.
But yeah, trying another browser is the 95% solution you want to go with first.
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