6th HOF-A Perfect World

[seanc]

Nominated By: Miss Vicky

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A Perfect World
(Clint Eastwood, 1993)

Sadly, too many people seem to treat the name Costner as a four letter word, but I think even his harshest critics will have to admit that he turned in a solid and memorable performance here and I hope you all will agree. The film itself is a really gripping tale of redemption and of finding friendship in the strangest of places. Part prison break film and part father/son road trip flick, it has just the right mix of action, emotion, and humor.

[seanc]

I really love this movie MV. I think it is under seen too. Great nomination. I just re-watched it about a month ago, so I probably won't again. I look forward to talking about it though.

[Miss Vicky]

I last watched it back in October, but I'll probably watch it again to keep it fresh in my mind for discussion and also because I love it so much. It's one of my all time favorite movies.

[Quill]

I haven't seen this movie in a long time! Looking forward to rewatching it

[sumantra roy]

A perfect film. Watched it many times, mostly in television...have nothing much to say about it except that it is Eastwood's best film for me and Costner's best performance...definitely a 8 pointer if not more.

[gbgoodies]

I watched A Perfect World last night, and I liked it a lot.

This is what I wrote about it in my logbook thread:

"I should preface this by mentioning that I'm one of the people who likes Kevin Costner, and I don't understand why some people don't like him. Having said that, I think this is one of his better movies. This is a great story, and possibly Costner's best performance. The movie is very well paced. It's emotional at times, with just the right blend of drama and humor. I was very impressed with young T.J. Lowther as Buzz, and I was surprised to find that he's made very few movies. I thought Clint Eastwood and Laura Dern were kind of wasted in this movie. I expected to see more of them, but the movie focused mainly on the growing relationship between Butch and Buzz."

http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1252601#post1252601

[cricket]

I'm looking forward to this as it's a movie that I wanted to rematch for a long time. I saw it once during my drinking days, but I don't remember it. Count me as a Kevin Costner fan anyway.

[rauldc14]

This is the number one film on my watchlist among all that were nominated, because it is a Clint Eastwood movie that I haven't seen yet. Here's to hoping its great.

[christine]

Not seen it but I'm a Costner fan too.

[Guaporense]

Great movie. Clint Eastwood is a great director, it's easy to see why Japanese film critics regard him as the greatest living American director (yep, more than Scorsese). Powerful and moving films are the type of movie he directs and this one is very characteristic.

[Thursday Next]

I don’t think I had even heard of this film before, which is odd since it seems like the sort of film that would be better known. It’s a moderately decent film, all told.

Other people have said that it strikes a good balance between humour and drama, I’m not entirely sure I agree. I thought Clint Eastwood and Laura Dern would have more to do, but they’re little more than the comic relief most of the way through the film, and the whole grizzled cowboy vs. woman with psychological methods and research thing seemed a little cliched, and not fully explored so not really necessary or meaningful.

I appreciate that the main idea of the film is that Philip came to like Aines, even though he’s a bad guy, but I thought the film itself was a bit too enamoured of him. I thought the ending was a touch overblown. I think it would have ended just fine the first time Costner sends the kid back to his mother, without the kid running back and all the hugging and crying and sentimental music. They’ve formed a bond. We get that. (And that was some seriously dubious helicopter flying at the end there). It lacked subtlety.

I liked that it was mostly unpredictable, and I thought that the child actor did a good job for the most part. Costner was certainly not a four letter word in this film either.

[Miss Vicky]

I'm at work at the moment, TN, but I'll try to address some of these points when I get home in a few hours.

[Miss Vicky]

While I agree that Red and Sally are underdeveloped characters, I feel that they provide a little more than just comic relief. The film revolves around the story of an escaped con being chased by police. As such, he needs someone to pursue him. If you listen to their stories, both Red and Sally have previous history with Butch, leaving both of them to see him as more than just a fugitive criminal and lending a bit of humanity to people we otherwise know little about.

But I don't think we need to know about them. The core of the film is the relationship between Butch and Philip. I think that saying that Philip "came to like" Butch is oversimplifying what they had. Butch is the child's abductor but at the same time he fills the role of father figure and protector, as unlikely as he may be for that job.

I think also that part of the idea of the film is to see the humanity in people, even in a criminal. You call Butch a "bad guy" but I can't say that I agree with you entirely. Yes, he's a killer. He's a thief. He's a kidnapper. But he's also a man who won't tolerate people who are abusive to children or to women. As contradictory as it seems, he has his principles.

As to the ending, I don't think that it needed subtlety. It wouldn't have felt right to me if Philip had just run back to his mother when he had the chance, knowing that Butch is doomed. It also would've seemed out of place, given that Philip is only a child and, in my experience, subtlety is not something they're prone to displaying in emotional situations.

But I respect you opinion, sad that I may be at the fact that "moderately decent" is the highest praise you could give a film I love so much. C'est la vie. Here's hoping the other participants see it differently.

[Swan]

There are really people who don't like Kevin Costner? I mean, I'm not a huge fan, but I always liked him. He's a solid actor.

Is it just because of Waterworld or something? :p

[gbgoodies]

While I agree that Red and Sally are underdeveloped characters, I feel that they provide a little more than just comic relief. The film revolves around the story of an escaped con being chased by police. As such, he needs someone to pursue him. If you listen to their stories, both Red and Sally have previous history with Butch, leaving both of them to see him as more than just a fugitive criminal and lending a bit of humanity to people we otherwise know little about.

But I don't think we need to know about them. The core of the film is the relationship between Butch and Philip. I think that saying that Philip "came to like" Butch is oversimplifying what they had. Butch is the child's abductor but at the same time he fills the role of father figure and protector, as unlikely as he may be for that job.

I think also that part of the idea of the film is to see the humanity in people, even in a criminal. You call Butch a "bad guy" but I can't say that I agree with you entirely. Yes, he's a killer. He's a thief. He's a kidnapper. But he's also a man who won't tolerate people who are abusive to children or to women. As contradictory as it seems, he has his principles.

As to the ending, I don't think that it needed subtlety. It wouldn't have felt right to me if Philip had just run back to his mother when he had the chance, knowing that Butch is doomed. It also would've seemed out of place, given that Philip is only a child and, in my experience, subtlety is not something they're prone to displaying in emotional situations.

But I respect you opinion, sad that I may be at the fact that "moderately decent" is the highest praise you could give a film I love so much. C'est la vie. Here's hoping the other participants see it differently.


I agree with this 100%. :up:

And in my opinion, A Perfect World is definitely much better than "moderately decent". I think it's one of Costner's best movies.

[gbgoodies]

There are really people who don't like Kevin Costner? I mean, I'm not a huge fan, but I always liked him. He's a solid actor.

Is it just because of Waterworld or something? :p


I haven't seen Waterworld, but I've heard it's one of Costner's worst movies. Is it really that bad?

[Swan]

I haven't seen it since I was a kid. My dad loves it. But, it's pretty poorly-received, as far as I know.

[Miss Vicky]

Yeah there are people who hate Kevin Costner. I don't get it. Even in his weaker films I've always found him quite likable.

Actually the "Costner is a four letter word" line came directly from this site. The header of the old design would display a variety of slogans, one of which was "Where Costner is a four letter word." I always hated that particular slogan.

Oh and Waterworld isn't a great movie or anything, but it's a lot of fun.

[Swan]

Oh and Waterworld isn't a great movie or anything, but it's a lot of fun.

That's kind of how I remember it. I remember specific parts of the film, and being entertained by the concept as a kid.

[Swan]

Also, I'm watching this movie, and I think I need to show it to my dad. He would love it, I think.

[gbgoodies]

Yeah there are people who hate Kevin Costner. I don't get it. Even in his weaker films I've always found him quite likable.

Actually the "Costner is a four letter word" line came directly from this site. The header of the old design would display a variety of slogans, one of which was "Where Costner is a four letter word." I always hated that particular slogan.

Oh and Waterworld isn't a great movie or anything, but it's a lot of fun.


I don't get the hate for Kevin Costner either. I haven't seen some of his more recent movies, but some of his movies are among my favorite movies.

[Miss Vicky]

Of the more recent films I've seen of his, the only one I can actually recommend is Mr. Brooks, but I don't know how much that film would appeal to you, GBG. His Hatfields and McCoys tv series was also quite good.

[Sane]

Nothing wrong with Waterworld ... The Postman however is one of the worst films I've ever seen :)

I'm personally not a fan of A Perfect World but that's not really because of Costner - it's probably his best performance.

[gbgoodies]

Of the more recent films I've seen of his, the only one I can actually recommend is Mr. Brooks, but I don't know how much that film would appeal to you, GBG. His Hatfields and McCoys tv series was also quite good.


I saw Mr. Brooks, and I liked it, but it was on a TV channel with commercials, so I don't know how badly they cut it for television. I'm planning to watch it uncut eventually.

I bought the Hatfields and McCoys mini-series on DVD, but I haven't had a chance to watch it yet. I've heard it's great, so I'm looking forward to it.

Some of my favorite Costner movies are American Flyers, No Way Out, Message in a Bottle, and Field of Dreams. I also loved the "Amazing Stories" episode "The Mission".

[Miss Vicky]

I like The Postman. Not a great movie by any means but I found it entertaining. :shrug:

[Swan]

Man, I haven't seen Field of Dreams since I was a kid either, but I remember it being such a solid flick.

[gbgoodies]

Nothing wrong with Waterworld ... The Postman however is one of the worst films I've ever seen :)

I'm personally not a fan of A Perfect World but that's not really because of Costner - it's probably his best performance.


I have The Postman on an old VHS tape, but I've never watched it because I heard it was terrible.

[Miss Vicky]

I haven't seen Field of Dreams in a long time either, but I always enjoyed it. Also really like Robin Hood, Dances With Wolves, Silverado, Bull Durham, Open Range and The Bodyguard.

Actually Open Range is a pretty recent one that I highly recommend. Excellent western.

[gbgoodies]

I haven't seen Field of Dreams in a long time either, but I always enjoyed it. Also really like Robin Hood, Dances With Wolves, Silverado, Bull Durham, Open Range and The Bodyguard.

Actually Open Range is a pretty recent one that I highly recommend. Excellent western.


I liked Robin Hood and Bull Durham, but not as much as the other Costner movies that I listed previously. I saw Dances with Wolves back when it was in the theaters, and I remember loving the movie, but I haven't seen it since then, and I don't remember much about it anymore. I haven't seen the other movies that you listed.

[Swan]

Pretty sure we can all agree Man of Steel is his best film.

;)

[Miss Vicky]

:laugh:

Absolutely.

[gbgoodies]

Pretty sure we can all agree Man of Steel is his best film.

;)


I was really looking forward to Man of Steel, but I was so disappointed with it. :(

But it wasn't really Costner's fault. I didn't like the actor who played Clark Kent/Superman.

[Miss Vicky]

I place the blame for MOS steel squarely on Zack Snyder.

I quite liked Costner and Crowe in it and have nothing against Cavill (he's a niece piece of a... I mean eye candy). It was the movie itself that sucked, but given that Snyder is also responsible for the turd that is 300, I can't say I was surprised.

[Swan]

I blame the terrible script and terrible execution of said terrible script.

[Miss Vicky]

Well it is Superman. A terrible script is to be expected.

I only watched it for the cast.

[gbgoodies]

Well it is Superman. A terrible script is to be expected.

I only watched it for the cast.


I think I'm one of the few people who didn't hate Superman Returns. I thought the movie was only okay, but there were some scenes where Brandon Routh looked eerily like a young Christopher Reeve.

[Swan]

Hey Sane - I remember you saying American Sniper was the culmination of everything bad about Clint Eastwood as a director. Something like that (correct me if I'm wrong, I don't mean to misrepresent what you said). And you said you didn't like this film, so I assume you have similar problems. Can you elaborate a bit as to the problems? Just curious. I'm sorry if you've mentioned this elsewhere, I must have missed it.

Anyway, I just finished the film. It's similar to This Boy's Life for me in that it's very solid, but didn't overly blow me away. I thought Costner was good as ever. I did think Clint and the lady were a bit underdeveloped, but I get what Vicky is saying - This is Costner and the boy's story. In fact, I'm glad they focused more on those two because it made for a better and more engaging film (this should be obvious but it seems it isn't :p). I have no real complaints. Good, solid nomination Vicky. I can certainly see why others fall for it. I'll probably pick it up for my dad some time and watch it with him. Think he'll like it.

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[Thursday Next]

While I agree that Red and Sally are underdeveloped characters, I feel that they provide a little more than just comic relief. The film revolves around the story of an escaped con being chased by police. As such, he needs someone to pursue him. If you listen to their stories, both Red and Sally have previous history with Butch, leaving both of them to see him as more than just a fugitive criminal and lending a bit of humanity to people we otherwise know little about.

But I don't think we need to know about them. The core of the film is the relationship between Butch and Philip.

I think that maybe they even needed to be in it less, if that was the case. It seemed like they were given too much baggage for what their role in the film was. It isn't a big criticism, just an observation.

I think that saying that Philip "came to like" Butch is oversimplifying what they had. Butch is the child's abductor but at the same time he fills the role of father figure and protector, as unlikely as he may be for that job.

Yes, and I liked that about the film.


I think also that part of the idea of the film is to see the humanity in people, even in a criminal. You call Butch a "bad guy" but I can't say that I agree with you entirely. Yes, he's a killer. He's a thief. He's a kidnapper. But he's also a man who won't tolerate people who are abusive to children or to women. As contradictory as it seems, he has his principles.

Typical Clint Eastwood characterisation there, the anti-hero, who may well be a curmudgeonly old sexist or a racist or even a murderer, but doesn’t stand for rape or child abuse, so he’s sort of a good guy even though he’s definitely a bad guy and probably dies heroically (or anti-heroically). Two for the price of one in this film, with Costner and Eastwood himself. ;)

I also think that although he does become a father figure and a protector to the kid, he doesn't really stick to his own principles: getting angry at the old man for slapping the kid, when he is the one terrorising these and other innocent people, including the other little boy, with a gun. He shot the other escaped prisoner, but he is the one who kidnapped Philip and put him in that situation in the first place.

As to the ending, I don't think that it needed subtlety. It wouldn't have felt right to me if Philip had just run back to his mother when he had the chance, knowing that Butch is doomed. It also would've seemed out of place, given that Philip is only a child and, in my experience, subtlety is not something they're prone to displaying in emotional situations.

I'll give you that the child doesn't display subtlety and that's okay, but I don't think you can pin all the swelling music and Laura Dern shouting 'nooooo' on the kid!

But I respect you opinion, sad that I may be at the fact that "moderately decent" is the highest praise you could give a film I love so much. C'est la vie. Here's hoping the other participants see it differently.

I know the stuff I've said has been largely critical, but these are just some points for discussion.

[Thursday Next]

Yeah there are people who hate Kevin Costner. I don't get it. Even in his weaker films I've always found him quite likable.

Actually the "Costner is a four letter word" line came directly from this site. The header of the old design would display a variety of slogans, one of which was "Where Costner is a four letter word." I always hated that particular slogan.

Oh and Waterworld isn't a great movie or anything, but it's a lot of fun.

I thought the general dislike of Costner had more to do with him as a director than an actor, so even people who are mortally offended by The Postman should be okay with this film. Another criticism I've heard of him is that he can come across as smug, which is more of a problem when he's playing the hero, I thought this role as a troubled criminal suited him well.

[Miss Vicky]

I've heard plenty of criticism of his acting as well as his directing.
His role as Robin Hood stands out as one where he got lots of criticism for his performance.

[Nostromo87]

always liked Kevin Costner, so i'll seek out A Perfect World. aside from those already mentioned, got a big soft spot for Tin Cup, which also has Cheech Marin

http://cdn.gunaxin.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/TinCup_scene04.jpg

and the always-entertaining Don Johnson

http://krant.telegraaf.nl/krant/naslag/filmrecensies/film.donjohnson.jpg

Does my inner child need a spanking

[Miss Vicky]

I recall liking Tin Cup well enough (I think I even have the DVD), but I've only seen it maybe twice and don't remember much.

[Thursday Next]

Well he's too old and too American to play Robin Hood, and he's acted off the screen by a scenery-chewing Alan Rickman, but I love that film :D

[Sane]

Hey Sane - I remember you saying American Sniper was the culmination of everything bad about Clint Eastwood as a director. Something like that (correct me if I'm wrong, I don't mean to misrepresent what you said). And you said you didn't like this film, so I assume you have similar problems. Can you elaborate a bit as to the problems? Just curious. I'm sorry if you've mentioned this elsewhere, I must have missed it.


Yeah, I said something like that. Basically what I meant was that in most of Eastwood's films there are really lazy manipulative scenes that bother me because they break up what is otherwise a great movie. American Sniper, however, is one long lazy manipulative scene :) An American killing middle eastern robot who has no lines in the whole film is the antagonist? Talking to his pregnant wife on the phone whilst patrolling in Iraq so she can collapse when they get attacked? I can't stand that stuff ...

Having said that, I have rated seven Eastwood films and gave five of them rating_3_5 or better so overall I like him but those issues always stop me loving his films.

In A Perfect World it was things like the scene where Costner leaves the kidnapped child alone in a car pointing an unloaded gun at the recently escaped fugitive pedophile ... WTF? It was purely there so Costner could kill him five minutes later and we could think "he's not such a bad guy ...". It's lazy and characters should be developed with good writing and acting rather than scenes like that.

TN also mentioned a couple of things about the end which made me feel the same way - particularly the double dipping on the sentimentality ...

I didn't hate this film but felt it could have been so much better if Eastwood had put a bit more effort into developing the characters rather than taking shortcuts.

And compared to American Sniper it's a masterpiece ;)

[hello101]

Just watched it, was great overall. The copper plot was abit weak compared (especially) to Costner and the kid's story but wasn't enough to pull it down, anyways I've seen more worse off secondary plots. The strength of the film lies in the chemistry between the two main characters, it's moving.

I was iffy to the writing off of a potentially interesting character in the second convict but the strong father-son relationship made me forget. Btw, I think that character (with his nasty behaviour and attitude) would've brought down the connection for me personally and the way they wrote him off, was pretty smart and effective anyways.

A quality nomination, MV.

4

[cricket]

I just finished watching this movie. I think the criticisms of the movie are valid, and I thought it had a few flaws myself. I don't care for Laura Dern very much; thankfully she didn't have a huge role. I think there were parts there were a tad silly, and I could've used a bit more realism and grit. However, we all watch a lot of movies, and we all watch a large variety of movies. We all rate and critique these movies, but I think sometimes it's better to overlook these flaws and remember why we fell in love with movies in the first place. Eastwood sometimes gets criticized as a director for being manipulative, but sometimes I like to just relax and be told and shown what's going on, and he's a great story teller. I could've used more of Clint the actor in this movie, but his role is indeed secondary so I can't complain. Obviously the focus of the movie is the relationship between the con and the boy, and I think that this is handled brilliantly. Sure, the con is a bad guy, but there's a lot of bad guys who grew up without a father, who are super determined not to make the same mistake as their father did when it comes to being a role model. I think this is shown very well, and it's all the more effective because of the needs of the boy. I've always liked Costner and he's great in this. The movie looks great, it captures the era well, and it's well paced. It could've used a couple alterations for my personal taste, but I think it's a wonderful movie. 4

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Tonight's Movie.

[Guaporense]

Yeah, I said something like that. Basically what I meant was that in most of Eastwood's films there are really lazy manipulative scenes that bother me because they break up what is otherwise a great movie. American Sniper, however, is one long lazy manipulative scene :) An American killing middle eastern robot who has no lines in the whole film is the antagonist? Talking to his pregnant wife on the phone whilst patrolling in Iraq so she can collapse when they get attacked? I can't stand that stuff ...

Having said that, I have rated seven Eastwood films and gave five of them rating_3_5 or better so overall I like him but those issues always stop me loving his films.

In A Perfect World it was things like the scene where Costner leaves the kidnapped child alone in a car pointing an unloaded gun at the recently escaped fugitive pedophile ... WTF? It was purely there so Costner could kill him five minutes later and we could think "he's not such a bad guy ...". It's lazy and characters should be developed with good writing and acting rather than scenes like that.

TN also mentioned a couple of things about the end which made me feel the same way - particularly the double dipping on the sentimentality ...

I didn't hate this film but felt it could have been so much better if Eastwood had put a bit more effort into developing the characters rather than taking shortcuts.

And compared to American Sniper it's a masterpiece ;)

Yeah, sentimentalism is for those inferior people who like mainstream garbage. (sarcasm)

While some movies are "hard" that doesn't mean you should force yourself to hate "easy" movies. Emotional manipulation is the name given by a viewer to explicitly emotional scenes that didn't connect to the viewer.

[Guaporense]

Eastwood sometimes gets criticized as a director for being manipulative, but sometimes I like to just relax and be told and shown what's going on, and he's a great story teller.

Eastwood's movies are easy for you partly because they are Hollywood movies which speak the cinematic language which you are the most fluent. I don't find Tarkovsky, for instance, more "difficult" than Spielberg, because I am used to the language. Movies are not difficulty or easy, they are not mathematical problems, they are art.

I could've used more of Clint the actor in this movie, but his role is indeed secondary so I can't complain. Obviously the focus of the movie is the relationship between the con and the boy, and I think that this is handled brilliantly. Sure, the con is a bad guy, but there's a lot of bad guys who grew up without a father, who are super determined not to make the same mistake as their father did when it comes to being a role model. I think this is shown very well, and it's all the more effective because of the needs of the boy. I've always liked Costner and he's great in this. The movie looks great, it captures the era well, and it's well paced. It could've used a couple alterations for my personal taste, but I think it's a wonderful movie. 4

It is, just like most Clint's movies. Clint is one of the greatest living American filmmakers.

[Sane]

Yeah, sentimentalism is for those inferior people who like mainstream garbage. (sarcasm)

While some movies are "hard" that doesn't mean you should force yourself to hate "easy" movies. Emotional manipulation is the name given by a viewer to explicitly emotional scenes that didn't connect to the viewer.
Guap, it really seems like you posted based on conversations on your head rather than what I actually wrote. Also, this is the second time you've decided to target my posts in terms of your perceived ideas of what I think of "mainstream" movies. You are wrong.

I would post more but I'm busy watching a bunch of "easy" films that I need to force myself to hate :D

[Guaporense]

Yep, sorry for that.

[rauldc14]

SPOILER COULD BE IN THIS

Just finished my eleventh Eastwood film here. I wouldn't put it on the level of his top 4 films for me, but it was a really good film. I particularly enjoyed the performance of Costner and the screenplay. It's a different story than we are used to seeing, so I give it a lot of credit for its creativity. And of course, when Eastwood is under center, the camerawork is at a top notch level.

I didn't have much argument as far as Eastwood and Dern's characters not being developed very much. I thought it was fine the way it was, as any extra attention to them would have taken away from the Butch/Phillip relationship.

If there's one thing that I'm particularly unsure if I like it would be the fact that Phillip shot Butch. But in reality, this is something that had to happen given the situation that Butch had put himself in. Overall a really solid film though. I'll definitely need to see this one again.

4+

[neiba]

Finished this now...

I have some mixed feelings about it... I loved Costner's performance (he is a actor I always liked) and the relationship between him the boy is amazing, which makes the movie a really great watch!
But Eastwood still didn't convince me as a director (except for Million Dollar baby which I kind of like), the writing was a bit artificial and the characters could have been waaay more explored! The whole movie relied solely on Costner's acting and on the inital premise! Again, it's a great watch and I felt entertained during the more than 2 hours this takes but I never felt touched by it...
A good movie, but not a masterpiece, in my opinion.

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[Gatsby]

A Perfect World

I prefer Eastwood as a blonde hero with no name but I guess this nomination is one of his better films. This film could have easily gone the wrong path because of all the crime elements. Luckily the focus is on the relationship between Costner and the young boy. Does that relationship work out very well? Not really, though at the end of movie I was satisfied.

3+

[christine]

Sorry it's taken me so long to get round to the last few. Just finished watching A Perfect World. I liked it. It's a solid entertaining film. Seemed to me that the side story of the Chief and his dealings with his staff and the Laura Dern character were a little clunky, but the relationship between Phillip and Butch was touching and more than made up for that. The complexity of Butch was slowly given over the course of the film which gave the film more depth. The kid was good as was Costner - still think his best film is Field of Dreams :)

[tramp]

I LOVE THIS THREAD! *shouts* :)

So, ok, I've been a fan of Costner's since Silverado. That's a long time. I've defended him against all manner of hate. I believe the backlash began when he beat Scorcese for the Oscar and it continued with Robin Hood into Waterworld. The fact is, though, so many of my favorite films are Costner films: Silverado, Bull Durham, Field of Dreams, The Untouchables, No Way Out, Tin Cup, Upside of Anger, Thirteen Days, Dances With Wolves (all time fav).. to name a few.

I obviously like this film, too, since it is a wonderful performance by Costner. As a film, it has its flaws, and it's not one of my favorites.

As to The Postman -- I like that film. I think people should watch it and ignore what others say. If you don't like it, so be it. One has to remember it was released the very same weekend as Titanic. So there you go. Was it really the flop the media made it to be or was it up against one of the most popular films of all time?

Lovin' all this Costner love. I rarely see it. I also didn't see Yoda on this thread….. ;)

(BTW, Field of Dreams was such a favorite that I wrote a journal article about the book it was based on and it was published in an English journal. Great book!)

[gbgoodies]

I LOVE THIS THREAD! *shouts* :)

So, ok, I've been a fan of Costner's since Silverado. That's a long time. I've defended him against all manner of hate. I believe the backlash began when he beat Scorcese for the Oscar and it continued with Robin Hood into Waterworld. The fact is, though, so many of my favorite films are Costner films: Silverado, Bull Durham, Field of Dreams, The Untouchables, No Way Out, Tin Cup, Upside of Anger, Thirteen Days, Dances With Wolves (all time fav).. to name a few.

I obviously like this film, too, since it is a wonderful performance by Costner. As a film, it has its flaws, and it's not one of my favorites.

As to The Postman -- I like that film. I think people should watch it and ignore what others say. If you don't like it, so be it. One has to remember it was released the very same weekend as Titanic. So there you go. Was it really the flop the media made it to be or was it up against one of the most popular films of all time?

Lovin' all this Costner love. I rarely see it. I also didn't see Yoda on this thread….. ;)

(BTW, Field of Dreams was such a favorite that I wrote a journal article about the book it was based on and it was published in an English journal. Great book!)


Have you seen the movie American Flyers? It's one of Costner's early movies, and I think it's a very underrated movie.

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Yep, seen it. :)