What does everyone think of this idea?

[gbgoodies]

I thought the Favorite Movie Star List had a lot of potential, but several people, including myself, have expressed that they were upset that the list was rushed, and they left people off of their lists, or in some cases, they didn't even get to submit. Several people, including myself, missed most, or all, of the results as well, so we didn't get the comments and discussion that we would have liked.

I was thinking about rerunning the same list that SC just ran, (the movie stars list), but giving people until about Jan 1st to submit their lists. That would give people time to think about their lists, and get them the way they want them. Then I would calculate the results, and rerun the same list, but with the results revealed at a normal pace, of only one or two results per day, so people would have time to discuss them this time around.

I thought it would be interesting to see how different the results would be if people had time to think about their lists, and people would enjoy the time to make comments and discuss the results. They could even use his original thread as a reference to make sure that they don't leave anyone off of their lists this time.

What do you think about this idea?

[Citizen Rules]

I like your idea! It would be interesting to compare the results. Besides I forgot Paul Newman!

And you could define the list anyway you want. Leave it open like SC did. Make it just our favorite stars. Or make it greatest actors.

[Godoggo]

I really like it and it would be fun for comparisons sake. I'm guessing the bottom half would look much different but the top would be somewhat the same.

It's also good for people who were busy that day. I got to sneak in a couple of times and caught the tail end when I got home, but I would like to discuss the actors work and why I felt compelled to vote for them.

Besides if Citizen Rules plays maybe we can get Thelma Ritter on the list this time. :)

[Sexy Celebrity]

That's fine.

I'm surprised you wanna give a deadline of January 1st. Except for my own countdowns, that's rather quick. Anyone else would have come up with a deadline of December 1st, 2026.

[seanc]

I would be in. One thing I mentioned during Sexy's list which might broaden the pool, is have people send you more than 25. There might be more crossover, but it could also make where you rank them mean even more. Just a thought.

[Modine]

Considering how much I enjoyed the countdown and how cool the whole experience was it's a shame that SC has been criticized so much. I screwed up my list royally, but still enjoyed the countdown and thought it was well run. There is no RIGHT way to run one of these things although I can certainly understand the frustration of missing the reveal. I am interested in a new countdown though, and this time I'm just going with my favourite actor/actresses instead of who I think are the best. Please confirm if this is going to take place. I'm definitely interested.

[gbgoodies]

I've never run one of these lists, so I'm open to suggestions about the deadline, the number of entries per list, and any tips that people with list experience can give me.

I think the list should be open to each individual person's interpretation. Personally, I like it to be my favorite stars, but if you would prefer it to be the greatest stars, or even some combination of the two, that would be okay too.

I just want everyone to have fun with the list, both making their own list for submission, and the discussion during the results.

[seanc]

I don't think you need to specify greatest or favorite. Like the movie lists, people will kind of do that on their own.

[Modine]

I've never run one of these lists, so I'm open to suggestions about the deadline, the number of entries per list, and any tips that people with list experience can give me.

I think the list should be open to each individual person's interpretation. Personally, I like it to be my favorite stars, but if you would prefer it to be the greatest stars, or even some combination of the two, that would be okay too.

I just want everyone to have fun with the list, both making their own list for submission, and the discussion during the results.

I think at the end of the day it doesn't matter if it's your favourites or greatest or even a mixture as long as you are clear about the criteria from the beginning.

[Modine]

Ha ha. He asks for ideas and he gets contradictory posts immediately after. That was funny.

[Miss Vicky]

Eh, I'm fine with the actors list that's already been done. I can see revisiting it with a more workable deadline sometime next year or the year after, but not right now.

Besides that, once the Animation Countdown is underway, people are going to be focusing on the 60s list and it's really not a good idea to have multiple lists going at once.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Maybe you should do a different kind of countdown, GB.

Someone did express interest in a director's countdown to me - yesterday. I don't find that idea so hot, but maybe others would.

[gbgoodies]

In terms of greatest vs. favorites, I would let each person decide for themselves how they want to do their individual list. I think it would make the comments more interesting during the results because people could explain why they chose that person.

If everyone is interested in this, then it would be my first list here, so feel free to make suggestions and/or comments.

Would everyone be okay with January 1st as the deadline for submissions, or would you like a little more time because of the holidays? I could set a deadline of Jan 10th, 15th or even the 31st if that would be better for everyone.

[Citizen Rules]

I liked SC's countdown, I said so and thanked him for the work. But there's nothing wrong with having a reboot of it. I think we are all smart enough to both handle the 60s list and a reboot list. I say go for it!

[rauldc14]

I just want to get to a 50s list eventually, because I would LOVE to run that!

[Modine]

In terms of greatest vs. favorites, I would let each person decide for themselves how they want to do their individual list. I think it would make the comments more interesting during the results because people could explain why they chose that person.

If everyone is interested in this, then it would be my first list here, so feel free to make suggestions and/or comments.

Would everyone be okay with January 1st as the deadline for submissions, or would you like a little more time because of the holidays? I could set a deadline of Jan 10th, 15th or even the 31st if that would be better for everyone.

The earlier the better for me. I would love to have one of these things once a week.

[gbgoodies]

Eh, I'm fine with the actors list that's already been done. I can see revisiting it with a more workable deadline sometime next year or the year after, but not right now.

Besides that, once the Animation Countdown is underway, people are going to be focusing on the 60s list and it's really not a good idea to have multiple lists going at once.


I could push this off until after the animation countdown is done. There's no rush for it. It's just an idea right now because several people have mentioned that they were upset that they missed this list.



Maybe you should do a different kind of countdown, GB.

Someone did express interest in a director's countdown to me - yesterday. I don't find that idea so hot, but maybe others would.


I'm probably not the best person to do a director's countdown. I rarely choose a movie based on the director.

[Citizen Rules]

I just want to get to a 50s list eventually, because I would LOVE to run that! You're the man! I love those 50s movies.

[BlueLion]

I don't like it. No point in running the same list twice + the fact that Sexy did it so quickly and didn't take it so seriously was what made it fun for me, it's precisely why I was so active in that thread.

[Miss Vicky]

I could push this off until after the animation countdown is done. There's no rush for it. It's just an idea right now because several people have mentioned that they were upset that they missed this list.

Once the animation countdown is done, people will be focusing on their sixties ballots. You'll get better results if you're not competing for people's attention. You'll also get more participation if people aren't voting for something they've just voted for.

[gbgoodies]

I don't like it. No point in running the same list twice + the fact that Sexy did it so quickly and didn't take it so seriously was what made it fun for me, it's precisely why I was so active in that thread.


Yeah, but you were there to be active. Some of us were out for the day, and didn't have the option to be active in the thread.

[Miss Vicky]

Well, I won't participate in it if it happens anytime soon. You can take the list I posted in Sexy's Countdown and use it if you want, because my votes wouldn't be any different.

[Godoggo]

Yes, but many people didn't get to participate. I don't see the harm in collecting lists then running it whenever it's convenient.

As far as I'm concerned the more lists the merrier. I do think it's polite to only run one at a time unless the lists are completely different in nature.

My suggestion would be to just start collecting lists and if you get enough participation then run with it when there isn't another list running. The info won't go anywhere. :)

[Modine]

Yes, but many people didn't get to participate. I don't see the harm in collecting lists then running it whenever it's convenient.

As far as I'm concerned the more lists the merrier. I do think it's polite to only run one at a time unless the lists are completely different in nature.

My suggestion would be to just start collecting lists and if you get enough participation then run with it when there isn't another list running. The info won't go anywhere. :)

I agree with everything here. I like the part about being polite too.

[gbgoodies]

Is there any way to add a poll to this thread?

I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes. I just thought the original topic of the list was a good idea, and it would be nice if everyone was able to participate, not just the select few who were online on Thanksgiving.

[BlueLion]

Yeah, but you were there to be active. Some of us were out for the day, and didn't have the option to be active in the thread.

I was there but I chose to be active only when I realized it wouldn't take us two weeks to find out whether Di Caprio would be ranked #12 or #9

[gbgoodies]

I was there but I chose to be active only when I realized it wouldn't take us two weeks to find out whether Di Caprio would be ranked #12 or #9


So DiCaprio is the only actor that you were interested in?

You don't need a top 100 list for that.

[BlueLion]

So DiCaprio is the only actor that you were interested in?

You don't need a top 100 list for that.

him and Craig Wasson

[Sexy Celebrity]

The earlier the better for me. I would love to have one of these things once a week.

Well, there might be another one soon. I am seriously feeling like doing another quick one, but it would be something probably incredibly ridiculous -- I don't know what yet. I will make sure to unveil it when Raul is available to watch, if he's even interested in what the unknown/mystery countdown will be.

[cricket]

I'm always up for a countdown. One idea I have is to do 2 different ones for actors and actresses. Not sure if that's a good idea, but it's a thought.

[gbgoodies]

I started a thread with a poll to get an idea where everyone stands on the idea. The poll will be open for a week to give people time to think about it and decide.

http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1211197#post1211197

[Sexy Celebrity]

gbgoodies, I think you're a good person, but you are nuts.

With everything that comes your way, you get... fixated on perfecting it and making it "right." It's really annoying. And I feel constantly picked on by you, though I understand why I must drive you crazy. I feel you were even like this when you chased that girl that hit a car, and then you chased down the person who drove the car that had been hit. Crossing paths with you in the real world has gotta be deadly.

[Sexy Celebrity]

And I can't believe this poll's open for an entire week.

On another hand, I like that you've made a spectacle of my Top 100 Movie Stars list, so kudos.

[Citizen Rules]

GBG has always been very kind to me. I've probably drove her crazy by asking her questions and advice. She has always BEEN kind, considerate and very patient with me. Sorry SC but you don't know her at all.

[gbgoodies]

gbgoodies, I think you're a good person, but you are nuts.

With everything that comes your way, you get... fixated on perfecting it and making it "right." It's really annoying. And I feel constantly picked on by you, though I understand why I must drive you crazy. I feel you were even like this when you chased that girl that hit a car, and then you chased down the person who drove the car that had been hit. Crossing paths with you in the real world has gotta be deadly.


SC, this has nothing to do with picking on you. I'm sorry if I'm making you feel that way. It's not my intention.

I thought your idea was a great idea, but it went by so fast that a bunch of people were upset that they didn't get a chance to participate in it. Some people who participated in it were also upset that their list was rushed, and they missed some actors that they wanted to include.

This is about letting those people participate and enjoy the list the way they wanted to. If most people think this is a waste of time, I'll just drop the idea. But if most people think it's a good idea and want the chance to do it over again, or even the first time for some people, then I'll go through with it.


And I can't believe this poll's open for an entire week.

On another hand, I like that you've made a spectacle of my Top 100 Movie Stars list, so kudos.


The poll is open for a week because I want people to think about it before they make a snap decision.

I think your list would make a great reference for people to make sure that they don't forget their favorite stars this time.

[Sexy Celebrity]

GBG has always been very kind to me. I've probably drove her crazy by asking her questions and advice. She has always BEEN kind, considerate and very patient with me. Sorry SC but you don't know her at all.

I said she was a good person. I'm not saying she's mean or rude or anything. I just think she's kinda crazy about making everything perfect. She seems to be what the Universe has sent to punish Sexy Celebrity and his "finish everything today" way of life around here.

[Swan]

I like Sexy's way of doing lists. It's very modern. Instant gratification.

[Citizen Rules]

Well then support her SC. She would support your countdown but she missed it.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Well then support her SC. She would support your countdown but she missed it.

I do support her.

Alright, I voted NO on her new poll, but I still support another Top 100 Movie Stars countdown if she wants to do one.

She may have missed the live ceremony of the countdown, but she did turn in a list.

[gbgoodies]

I said she was a good person. I'm not saying she's mean or rude or anything. I just think she's kinda crazy about making everything perfect. She seems to be what the Universe has sent to punish Sexy Celebrity and his "finish everything today" way of life around here.


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c95/gbgoodies/dontannoy_zpslpkpebiu.gif

[Sexy Celebrity]

I apologize openly to gbgoodies for calling her nuts. I'm the one who's nuts because I don't do the countdowns slow when I really should. So if she really wants to do it over again, let her do it over again. It would be more gratifying to discuss, in depth, each actor who appears on the list, one or two at a time. My list had too many errors and TIES, anyway.

[The Rodent]

That's one reason I gave up looking at it.


There were 9 pages, then I went to bed for a few hours and when I came back on the site there was over 35 pages. Not trawling over 26+ pages in one go.

[Sexy Celebrity]

That's one reason I gave up looking at it.


There were 9 pages, then I went to bed for a few hours and when I came back on the site there was over 35 pages. Not trawling over 26+ pages in one go.

Yes, well, thank you for sending in a list and taking part in another one of my insane games again.

[Modine]

I apologize openly to gbgoodies for calling her nuts. I'm the one who's nuts because I don't do the countdowns slow when I really should. So if she really wants to do it over again, let her do it over again. It would be more gratifying to discuss, in depth, each actor who appears on the list, one or two at a time. My list had too many errors and TIES, anyway.

Nice to see the apology for calling her nuts, but there was a quirky charm to your list that is lost when people take them too seriously. Miss Vicky could learn a thing or two from your easy going manner. I think you're being a little hard on yourself. Not everyone wants to wait six months for a list to be revealed.

[christine]

I quite liked Sexys countdown, it was fun, but I don't think I would've minded if I was too busy that day to participate. You did get 35 tho so that was pretty good!

GBG I think you should maybe leave it till next year to do another countdown. I'd had a good hours think about mine and I don't think I'd change anyone on it, but running another one might get more participants. Also don't think there's any need to specify favourite/ best as most people go with their gut feelings anyway.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Nice to see the apology for calling her nuts

Well, she is!

Miss Vicky could learn a thing or two from your easy going manner.

*looks around to see if the coast is clear.....*

*.......... nods slightly*

Not everyone wants to wait six months for a list to be revealed.

They DON'T!

[Kaplan]

I voted no because even though SC's countdown was annoyingly rapid (and he missed my 1-pointer), it's done. But obviously I would turn in a list for the new one too, though my list wouldn't change, except for maybe one actor I missed. How about you wait a year and then do one.

[Sexy Celebrity]

There might not be any suspense. Jack Nicholson could still wind up being #1.

[gbgoodies]

I apologize openly to gbgoodies for calling her nuts. I'm the one who's nuts because I don't do the countdowns slow when I really should. So if she really wants to do it over again, let her do it over again. It would be more gratifying to discuss, in depth, each actor who appears on the list, one or two at a time. My list had too many errors and TIES, anyway.


I appreciate the apology, but it's not necessary. You're not the first person to call me crazy, and I'm sure that you won't be the last one either. :D

I know that you're not trying to be mean. You're just saying what you're thinking, and that's okay. :)

At this point, it looks like we're kind of split on whether or not to redo the movie star list, so I'm leaving it up to the members to decide. Hopefully everyone will vote in the poll, and we'll have an answer next week.

http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=37981

Thank you to everyone for your comments and opinions, and hopefully your votes, (either Yes or No). I don't think there's any right or wrong here. It's just different people with different opinions, and different ways of doing things.

[gbgoodies]

Nice to see the apology for calling her nuts, but there was a quirky charm to your list that is lost when people take them too seriously. Miss Vicky could learn a thing or two from your easy going manner. I think you're being a little hard on yourself. Not everyone wants to wait six months for a list to be revealed.


The reason for the redo isn't about taking the list too seriously. IMO, people who get upset when their favorites don't make the top of the list are the ones who take these lists too seriously.

This is about fun and participation. It was fun compiling my list, but when I got home and the whole list was completed, all the fun was gone because I didn't get to participate in the results part of it. No comments, no discussions, no fun. Just 30 pages of list to read on my own. I could have just searched the Internet for a random list if that was all I wanted to do.

If I had been the only person who missed it, I would have just ignored it, and moved on, but there were several people commenting about missing the list, so I realized that I wasn't the only one who missed all the fun.

This is about those people getting to participate and enjoy the list from start to finish. It's also for the people who realized that they rushed their list, and accidentally left off some of the favorite stars. This is a second chance for people to get their lists the way they want them.

[Modine]

The reason for the redo isn't about taking the list too seriously. IMO, people who get upset when their favorites don't make the top of the list are the ones who take these lists too seriously.

This is about fun and participation. It was fun compiling my list, but when I got home and the whole list was completed, all the fun was gone because I didn't get to participate in the results part of it. No comments, no discussions, no fun. Just 30 pages of list to read on my own. I could have just searched the Internet for a random list if that was all I wanted to do.

If I had been the only person who missed it, I would have just ignored it, and moved on, but there were several people commenting about missing the list, so I realized that I wasn't the only one who missed all the fun.

This is about those people getting to participate and enjoy the list from start to finish. It's also for the people who realized that they rushed their list, and accidentally left off some of the favorite stars. This is a second chance for people to get their lists the way they want them.

I swear to God, I wasn't thinking of you when I made the comment about taking things too seriously. My comment was directed at someone else who seems to think their list is akin to the parting of the Red Sea. I thought your reason for wanting to re-do the list was a good one and I voted for it. I can clearly see both sides in this tiff and agree with both of you for different reasons. While I enjoyed SC's list, a lot of people missed out on some of their stars (me included) and a lot of people missed the reveal. My issue is with certain other people (not you or SC) that are bossy and inflexible about their list. You have been neither bossy nor inflexible and I'm looking forward to your movie star countdown if you have it.

[honeykid]

The earlier the better for me. I would love to have one of these things once a week.
I quoted this post because I was going to say stick around SC and you could get one of these a day. But then, SC answered and said he's thinking about another one, so I guess it's kind of moot.

I don't think doing another one is a problem at all. However, I would wait until the new year, just because that clears Christmas/New Year as well as the animation countdown.

[Miss Vicky]

Miss Vicky could learn a thing or two from your easy going manner.

Wow. That was kind of a dick thing to say.
I'm not changing, dude. If you don't like me, put me on ignore.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Wow. That was kind of a dick thing to say.


I can't believe he said I have an easy going manner!

[Sexy Celebrity]

I swear to God, I wasn't thinking of you when I made the comment about taking things too seriously. My comment was directed at someone else who seems to think their list is akin to the parting of the Red Sea.

Is that an animated Red Sea?

You have been neither bossy nor inflexible and I'm looking forward to your movie star countdown if you have it.

There's a tinge of bossiness to her. It's just more polite and subtle.

[gbgoodies]

There's a tinge of bossiness to her. It's just more polite and subtle.


If you're talking about me, it's not intentional.

[Miss Vicky]

I can't believe he said I have an easy going manner!

Yeah, I was like "What? Clearly this dude doesn't know Sexy at all." I mean, I know he's only been here three months but he must be really unobservant to think that.

Also I'm not sure where his accusation of arrogance is coming from. The actor list that's being discussed here is a "just for fun" list. Not an official MoFo list that's going to be added to the list section of the forum for people to check off. The animation list, on the other hand, is an official MoFo List that will be in the list section. I have to be inflexible about the rules to that - it's important that I be consistent so that it's fair to all participants.

As for my assertion that it's not a good idea to have concurrently running lists, GBG asked for opinions and I gave an honest response.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Well, I do have an easy going manner. I think he's actually incredibly observant and very wise.

[Miss Vicky]

Well, I do have an easy going manner. I think he's actually incredibly observant and very wise.

Well he's obviously not seen your behavior during a lot of the MoFo countdowns. There's a reason weeman's Hitler tribute video to you was so funny and fitting.

[Godoggo]

What list has ever taken close to six months? Brodinski's probably took the longest because he would go days without posting, but after that I think they took around a month month and a half to complete.

[seanc]

What list has ever taken close to six months? .

Only the Godoggo Top 100. ;)

[gbgoodies]

As for my assertion that it's not a good idea to have concurrently running lists, GBG asked for opinions and I gave an honest response.


And I appreciate your honest response. Thank you. :up:

[Miss Vicky]

Only the Godoggo Top 100. ;)

That one's gone on a couple of years now, hasn't it?

[seanc]

That one's gone on a couple of years now, hasn't it?

Maybe she is waiting till she sees 100 movies.:shrug:

[Gatsby]

Maybe she is waiting till she sees 100 movies.:shrug:

My theory is that she wants to get lots of rep by making a lot of time for people to see posts by completing the list slowly which would increase the chance of some chap pressing the like button. :rolleyes:

[seanc]

My theory is that she wants to get lots of rep by making a lot of time for people to see posts by completing the list slowly which would increase the chance of some chap pressing the like button. :rolleyes:

I think she is pulling a George. Her last entry was Mr Fox, and she wants to leave on a high note.:D

[mark f]

The Animated List isn't a checkable MoFo List? Why not?

Oh wait, you mean it IS. OK.

[Miss Vicky]

The Animated List isn't a checkable MoFo List? Why not?

Oh wait, you mean it IS. OK.

Yeah, my post was worded poorly. I edited it so hopefully it's more clear now.

The Animation List will be a checkable MoFo List. All these other ideas being discussed here are "just for fun" lists and the people in charge of those - if they happen at all - can afford to be a little more flexible about the rules than I can.

[Citizen Rules]

I'm OK with taking a longer time on the Animation list because the idea is to get people to watch animated films. That takes time. I think people are watching them too as many of the reviews on the Rate The Last Movie You Saw are animated films.

[Godoggo]

Only the Godoggo Top 100. ;)

Oh, I see it now. Ha ha. That's been well over a year now. Slowest list in history.

I think I sorta liked how it drove Guap crazy because somehow it didn't make sense to him statistically.