The MoFo Map

[The Rodent]

Ok... might be worth a go. See how much interest we get.


http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q552/The-Rodent/Rodent%20MoFo%20Stuff/MoFoMapHeader_zpsaf37ec21.png

The MoFo Map.
Using an online pin map, we can see the locations of MoFos.

The Map can be found here (https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1114029) on ZeeMaps... each entry is a simple pin, just click it and it'll open the box to see which MoFo it is. Simple.





Now, please do not put postal codes, street names, full addresses or any sensitive details.
Even my own entry on the Map is a few miles off location to avoid anything too intimate.

If you want to be added, just go to the top of the map, additions, "Add Marker - Simple" and away you go.


You can move the marker as well by clicking the arrow at the bottom right of the pop-up box on your map-pin.

[Miss Vicky]

Pin added.

[Miss Vicky]

Well crap, now I don't see it on there. What did I do wrong?

[The Rodent]

I didn't realise you could do that. Ok... add your pins then people if you want to :D


Top of map, additions, "Add Marker - Simple" and away you go.


You can move the marker as well by clicking the arrow at the bottom right of the pop-up box on your map-pin.

[Swan]

Added myself. Moving into my new house soon so mine will change.

[The Rodent]

Yeah it's there MV. I think it takes a minute or two to save to the server.

[Miss Vicky]

I think I got it on there now.

[The Rodent]

Edited the first post. I didn't realise you could do it yourselves. I thought it was only for the Map Starter.


I guess I didn't need to join up then. Oh well. The Map itself is "owned" by "The Rodent" anyway so all is good.


Click away people!!

[gbgoodies]

Edited the first post. I didn't realise you could do it yourselves. I thought it was only for the Map Starter.


I guess I didn't need to join up then. Oh well. The Map itself is "owned" by "The Rodent" anyway so all is good.


Click away people!!


I didn't know I could add it myself, so I PMed it to you. Do you want to add it, or do you me to add mine?

[Sexy Celebrity]

Added.

[The Rodent]

Added gbgoodies.


You guys, if you click on your pin, at the top of the box there's your name... click it and you can add your avatar as a picture.

[Godoggo]

Rodent's putting me on there. I'll be a North Florida pin.

[Miss Vicky]

Added.

:laugh:

[gbgoodies]

Added gbgoodies.


You guys, if you click on your pin, at the top of the box there's your name... click it and you can add your avatar as a picture.


I can see my marker when I click on the map, but I can't add my avatar. It doesn't seem to have any option to edit it.

[The Rodent]

Bring up the pop-up box on your pin and the tab called Media.


You can add either from your computer or a URL and then click Submit. Just like adding an avatar on MoFo. It takes a minute or two for the image to appear in the pop-up box.

[gbgoodies]

Bring up the pop-up box on your pin and the tab called Media.


You can add either from your computer or a URL and then click Submit. Just like adding an avatar on MoFo. It takes a minute or two for the image to appear in the pop-up box.


I brought up the pop-up box, but there's no "Media" option. The only options are Zoom, Print, Close, or To and From Directions.

I tried it in both Firefox and Chrome.
Maybe it won't let me edit the pin because I didn't add it?

[The Rodent]

Ah... bring up the pop-up... at the top of the pop-up is your name... click that... then you'll see tabs at the top.

[gbgoodies]

Ah... bring up the pop-up... at the top of the pop-up is your name... click that... then you'll see tabs at the top.


I tried that. My name is not clickable.

[The Rodent]

Oh. Ok, giz a minute I'll do it.

[gbgoodies]

Oh. Ok, giz a minute I'll do it.


Okay. Thanks.

[The Rodent]

Done... :)


Anyone else has trouble with uploading an avatar, let me know.

[Dorothy Michaels]

Added!

[gbgoodies]

Oh. Ok, giz a minute I'll do it.


I see my avatar on there now. Thanks. :)

[Miss Vicky]

Will it accept animated avatars?

[The Rodent]

I have no idea. Try it.

[Miss Vicky]

NVM it does.

[The Rodent]

Cool! :up:


C'mon MoFos!! Get clickin'!! :D

[Kaplan]

Done.

[Hit Girl]

Done! That's great.

[jiraffejustin]

added mine. Broklahoma stand up

[The Rodent]

This is looking pretty good already. Spread across the globe from US to Aus...


I know we have some more in Australia, UK and Europe and a ton more in USA. Hopefully more will appear :up:

[TheUsualSuspect]

Added. Currently the only Canadian...

[Harry Lime]

Added. Currently the only Canadian...
Not anymore.

[christine]

Done mine :)
think it went about 50 miles down south tho, sorry!

[The Rodent]

You can move it around a bit.


Click on the pin, and at the bottom right of the pop-up box you'll see an arrow. Click that and you can move the pin.
The box that appears in the middle of the screen can be moved as well if it's in the way.

[christine]

Done! I'm in the right place now, thanks Rodent :)

[Tacitus]

Done, to within about 10 yards. It's easy when you live out in the wilds. Ish.

Good idea rodent. I was up to the same thing on another forum yesterday and it's pretty interesting when it starts to fill up. ;)

[the samoan lawyer]

Rodent, has mine worked? Also, looks like i may have trampled upon poor Tacitus (sorry Tac), can you move mine across a bit?

[The Rodent]

It's there but I can't move yours, Lawyer... only you can edit your own pin.


Click it and bring up the box, at the bottom right of the pop-up is an arrow, click that and a box comes up saying Done and Cancel, (if that box is in the way you can move it out of the way) after that, you can move the pin.

[Mr Minio]

LOL @ Sexy Celebrity's location. I thought to myself "Is it really where he lives?", clicked on it and got Hitler's "Nein, nein, nein, nein!" xDDDD

[the samoan lawyer]

It's there but I can't move yours, Lawyer... only you can edit your own pin.


Click it and bring up the box, at the bottom right of the pop-up is an arrow, click that and a box comes up saying Done and Cancel, (if that box is in the way you can move it out of the way) after that, you can move the pin.

Cheers Rodent

[Skepsis93]

Added! :)

[seanc]

Added mine. Ill do an avatar later.

[seanc]

You know you gave Sexy a playground. The king of freeziness cracked me up for some reason.

[Jack1]

Added.

[The Sci-Fi Slob]

Added my pin - http://bit.ly/1AFY53b:)

[Mr Minio]

You know you gave Sexy a playground. The king of freeziness cracked me up for some reason. It was added by me!

[Yoda]

Done. :) Cool stuff.

[The Rodent]

I've realised I can actually edit them. If I log into my account, I have total control over the map as it was made using that account.


Imma move everyone around :D


Yoda can live in Brazil... might move gbgoodies to Antarctica...

[Mr Minio]

Add Guap in Japan. His dreams will come true.

[The Rodent]

I'll put Guap in Hollywood.

[Swan]

So many Englishmen on this forum.

[The Sci-Fi Slob]

So many Englishmen on this forum.There would have been a lot more of us where you live, if we had won.:D

[The Gunslinger45]

There would have been a lot more of us where you live, if we had won.:D

But ya lost. :cool:

[The Gunslinger45]

And I added my pin since I am able to edit it in the future.

[The Sci-Fi Slob]

But ya lost. :cool:

That's it.. you're banned for warmongering!:cool:

[The Rodent]

Nah... we won. But we decided to walk away from you bunch after we saw what you were doing to our language.

[Miss Vicky]

Nah... we won. But we decided to walk away from you bunch after we saw what you were doing to our language.

You mean improving it?

[The Rodent]

There's a few MoFos on here I thought were American but are British.


Skep is one of them. I thought he was in the same State as Yoda. Turns out he's about 25 miles from me!!

[Sedai]

Pin Added!

[The Rodent]

You can't improve a language by mispronouncing Aluminium.

[The Gunslinger45]

That's it.. you're banned for warmongering!:cool:

I wish. I never got to deploy! :(

[Skepsis93]

You mean improving it?

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/dbts.gif

Garbage? Sidewalk? F*ck right off.

[Swan]

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/my-face-when-americans-call.png

[The Gunslinger45]

You can't improve a language by mispronouncing Aluminium.

But we removed the unneeded U form color. :cool:

[The Sci-Fi Slob]

It's to be expected that if a nation is built on immigration, it's language is as backwards as its people..:p People say the same about Britain, only difference is the ancient immigrants tp these lands were all Germanic races - practically all the same race anyway.:cool:

[The Rodent]

This is going to get out of hand soon.


Right, stop messing up my lovely Map thread and get your pins on there :D

[Skepsis93]

I could really go for a nice breaddystack right about now

[Sedai]

You can't improve a language by mispronouncing Aluminium.

That's not how the word is spelled.

Aluminum (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/aluminum)

Sorry, this was already settled at Oxford University and isn't up for discussion anymore! The word is Alum - i - num. Period, end of story.


*Runs and hides*

[Mr Minio]

I added a sound effect on my location in Poland. :)

[Miss Vicky]

Sidewalk? F*ck right off.

Um, it's a walkway on the side of the street, ergo sidewalk. Makes perfect f*cking sense.

Weirdo.

[The Rodent]

That is true, Slob.


"English" as in "Anglo" (the French still call it L'Angleterre meaning Anglo Terrain).


The Anglo Saxons were from Northern Germany and Southern Denmark. To be truly English, means you're actually German.
The usage of surnames by the Angles was also introduced by the French for taxation purposes when they conquered this little island of ours... so they could track more precisely who had or hadn't paid their tax. Before that, the Angles didn't use surnames.

[The Sci-Fi Slob]

Alu-min-ium - that's how it's pronounced. I know this because we brought the world the real English language, Shakespeare, Dr Johnson, John Milton and J. K. Rowling.:cool:

[Swan]

Added my theme song to mine.

[Swan]

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/dbts.gif

Garbage? Sidewalk? F*ck right off.

Um, it's a walkway on the side of the street, ergo sidewalk. Makes perfect f*cking sense.

Weirdo.

Yeah, and garbage is when they gar on the bage. Seriously. It's not hard to figure out.

[The Rodent]

Anyway... enough of this thread jacking.


Aluminum was actually a typo by Hans Christian Oersted which was snapped up by the 'mericans.
He spelled it with an i in every instance apart from one time in his extensive notes when he discovered it.




Right. No more.

[The Gunslinger45]

Okay I pulled a Swan and deleted my post to end thread jacking out of respect for Rodent.

[seanc]

Bugger off and stop hijacking the bloody thread you bunch of arseholes.

[Mr Minio]

Why the hell it wouldn't let me add moaning sounds.

[Mr Minio]

Nevermind! Check Guap's Dream pin in Japan! xDDD

[The Rodent]

It has done. Sometimes it takes a few minutes to add pics and sound bites.


Oh... who put Guap in Japan? :laugh:


I'll probably have to remove that one if he asks.

[The Sci-Fi Slob]

I will drop this whole American English thing after just one minor criticism. It's another pronunciation thing again, and it's how Americans pronounce English county names that end in "shire". Americans pronounce it exactly how it is spelt . For example, English people pronounce it: Derby'SHUR' or depending on the accent Derby'SHA'. It's goes through me when I hear Americans on TV shows pronounce it like that. That's it, rant over. Beer time! :)

[Yoda]

Ultimately, it's up to Rodent where he wants this map to be on the casual/accurate spectrum, but I will say that if he decides he wants it to be accurate, you guys should definitely respect that.

[Mr Minio]

Oh... who put Guap in Japan? :laugh: It's not Guap in Japan. It's his dream.

[Mr Minio]

Mkay, Rodent, now you know where to drop the bombs!

[The Rodent]

I don't mind a bit of fun... I've let SC's slide as it's pretty funny and he did it to himself. Would like it if he would do a proper one though.


As for adding other people's or doing spoof ones for the sake of it, in this case Guaporense, I might have to draw a line on it.

[The Rodent]

Whose is the St Denis one?

[n3wt]

Ive just added mine and if I remember I will change it once we have moved :)

[n3wt]

Also a very cool idea as people have told me where they live etc but seeing a visual reference is awesome fp, nice one Rodent :cool:

[The Sci-Fi Slob]

All the Brits on the map, do you fancy a meet in Manchester? Bring £500 beer money. If you bring too much, I'll drink the rest.;)

[The Rodent]

MoFo MeetUp


That'd be interesting.

[Sedai]

We have been talking about it for years! A couple of small ones have gone off, though. John McClane came and visited LTIzzy and I for a week, and another time, Holden, Yoda and JC met in Washington DC.

[Yoda]

Yeah, I'm always down for this kind of thing. I'll make time in my schedule if someone comes out near me or wants to meet nearby. I could be persuaded to drive a bit if it involved meeting up with multiple MoFos, too.

And I'm really holding out hope that one of my favorite video games, SpyParty, has a booth at PAX East next year, since that would give me an excuse to drive up to Boston and meet Sedai and the gang.

[The Rodent]

Maybe if I win the lottery and I can afford the travel costs :D

[Yoda]

Hehe. Well, standing offer: any MoFo who comes out my way, lunch is on me.

[Miss Vicky]

I seem to recall that Yoda and planet news met up for a movie, too. Right?

[Miss Vicky]

I think Swan's the only MoFo I have any hope of meeting in person. Even then it's unlikely.

[Tacitus]

I've had MoFos stay at chez Tat before and I'm sure I will have again. Tatty Cottage is far nicer than the last place too, phalanx of cats notwithstanding.

[Swan]

Hehe. Well, standing offer: any MoFo who comes out my way, lunch is on me.

When I have my philosophy degree and am homeless, I'll take you up on that offer. :D

[n3wt]

A movie night or something with MoFos would be awesome. Yoda cant you purchase a small island somewhere and name it The Isle of MoFo and only members can enter? Just a thought :p

[The Sci-Fi Slob]

When I have my philosophy degree and am homeless, I'll take you up on that offer. :DThin, very thin...:rolleyes:

[Swan]

Thin, very thin...:rolleyes:

Dude it's a joke. You know I love philosophy.

[Yoda]

I seem to recall that Yoda and planet news met up for a movie, too. Right?
Yeah, we met a few times. We saw Black Swan, and we went to a RiffTrax event in a theater, and he came to lunch with my wife and I and some of our family. Not sure what he's up to these days, but a good time was had by all.

[gbgoodies]

I've realised I can actually edit them. If I log into my account, I have total control over the map as it was made using that account.


Imma move everyone around :D


Yoda can live in Brazil... might move gbgoodies to Antarctica...


I don't mind moving out of New York, but could you at least move me someplace good, like Dallas, Texas or Nashville, Tennessee? :)

[The Rodent]

I'll put you on Richard Branson's island.

[The Sci-Fi Slob]

I'll put you on Richard Branson's island.
The electric chair would be a more preferable fate.

[gbgoodies]

I'll put you on Richard Branson's island.


That could be nice. It's beautiful, private, and I'd be closer to my Mom in Florida. :)

[honeykid]

Plus, when it burns down Kate Winslett carries you to safety. :D

[Sedai]

Yoda: I just may take you up on that sometime in the future!

[The Rodent]

What, being carried to safety by Kate Winslett?

[Mr Minio]

I thought there's more people from Australia on these forums.

[Yoda]

There are, but this has been up less than a day, and the overwhelming majority of members haven't seen it and/or haven't pinned themselves. Plus, it's been the middle of the night in Australia for the last 4 hours or so.

[christine]

Can we put the map somewhere we can see it Yoda all the time? I like knowing where people are from, it's interesting :)

[Yoda]

Yeah, we might be able to swing that. I think we'd wanna make sure we get a critical mass of users, and formalizing it somehow means making sure it's moderated and all that.

I've considered doing something like this for years but never really got around to it. Nice job, Rodent, for making it happen. :up: Let's see if we can get some more and I'll see what I can do.

[christine]

Yes good work Rodent. I pretty much knew where all the Brits and Irish guys came from, but it's lovely now seeing you European and American mofos on the map :)

[weeman]

Added. Someone lives where I go to university which is quite interesting.

[Skepsis93]

Added. Someone lives where I go to university which is quite interesting.

Who's that?

Have you put the place you're from or where you go to Uni? I can't decide which since I live pretty much half the year in each. I went with my hometown in the end.

[christine]

Is it just me or is the map getting impossibly slow to load?

[weeman]

Who's that?

Have you put the place you're from or where you go to Uni? I can't decide which since I live pretty much half the year in each. I went with my hometown in the end.

I've put mine where I'm from and currently still live, which is West Wales, but my temporary home during term time is Lancaster, where Jack1 says he's from.

[MovieGal]

I added myself and Ren to the map... he has an account here.. and i hope he will be posting sometime soon... he currently has only 3 posts..... believe me.. many could benefit from his film recommendations.

[Harry Lime]

Aluminium. Hilarious.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Rodent deleted that great "Young Guns" marking. I don't know who did it, but Lincoln County, New Mexico, the setting of "Young Guns", was marked earlier.

[rauldc14]

I'm added. I would doubt I'll meet a mofo but you never know. I still think it would be interesting to skype or call some mofos though.

[Swan]

I'm added. I would doubt I'll meet a mofo but you never know. I still think it would be interesting to skype or call some mofos though.

If I become a cultural anthropologist, I'll come study all you strange creatures.

[The Gunslinger45]

If I become a cultural anthropologist, I'll come study all you strange creatures.

Or making a heavy metal documentary!

[rauldc14]

Now that's an idea. Let's get a skype group together. Kind of like for the podcasts, but we just talk whatever.

[MovieGal]

Now that's an idea. Let's get a skype group together. Kind of like for the podcasts, but we just talk whatever.

You know you can get a group of people and watch a film together on skype... its some type of option they offer....

[cricket]

I'm on there; Sedai is the closest member to me. I'm in his town for work at least once a week.

[The Gunslinger45]

Godoggo is the closest to me. I don't travel south much.

[rauldc14]

The closest to me isn't very close. Either Movie Gal, Yoda, or SeanC.

[The Rodent]

Skep is about 20 minutes on the train from me. 25 miles or so.


I'm scared. That means Skep has a Brummy accent too.

[Skepsis93]

Skep is about 20 minutes on the train from me. 25 miles or so.


I'm scared. That means Skep has a Brummy accent too.

Not scary. We just sound unfortunate.

[The Rodent]

Oh by the way... totally shameless plug... I'm hoping for a MoFie nomination for this one, guys :D :D :D :D

[Miss Vicky]

What is up with you people and your Brummy accents and plummy accents and whatever?
What does a "brummy" accent even sound like?

[Hit Girl]

Oh by the way... totally shameless plug... I'm hoping for a MoFie nomination for this one, guys :D :D :D :D





Way ahead of you there, Rodent. It's already on my list. :)

[rauldc14]

Don't see your ballot HG. Must be a PMed one.

[The Rodent]

Brummy is Birmingham.


To be a Brummy, you have to come from Birmingham. To have a Brummy accent, means you have that localised accent.


It's very down sounding, miserable sounding almost. Not trying to sound like I'm taking the p*ss, it's genuinely how it sounds.


They add syllables to words too.


Gold is pronounced "Gahwuld"
Soap is pronounced "Sahwup"


Things like that.


To give an idea of the diversity of British accents:
Wolverhampton, which is in the same area as Brum, have completely different mannerisms to the accent. Same sound almost... but Wolverhampton's people are often referred to as Yam-Yams. Yam-Yams hate being called Yam-Yams though.
They say things like "'Ow am ya?" which means "How are you?"

[Sexy Celebrity]

Oh by the way... totally shameless plug... I'm hoping for a MoFie nomination for this one, guys :D :D :D :D

You shouldn't have removed that funny "Young Guns" marking that someone made up.

[Hit Girl]

Don't see your ballot HG. Must be a PMed one.

I haven't posted it yet. I'm being radical and working it out on...wait for it...paper!

http://blog.oxbridgeapplications.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/shocked_face.jpg

I know, I know...trendsetter! :D:D:D

[The Rodent]

Brummys use the term Brummys for themselves though. They love the term.


They even refer to Birmingham as Brum.


"Where are you from?"
"Brum"




The U in Brum is an "Oo" sound. Not like Broom, almost like Brawm. Don't accentuate the "aw", shorten it. Brawm.


The swear word F**k... fook. That kind of sounding U. Brum. Brawm.

[rauldc14]

I haven't posted it yet. I'm being radical and working it out on...wait for it...paper!

http://blog.oxbridgeapplications.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/shocked_face.jpg

I know, I know...trendsetter! :D:D:D

You are so old school. HG.

[The Rodent]

This is a Midlands accent.


Wolvo, Brum, West Brom, Telford, Dudley... etc. This advert was slammed as you can see from the article but it's actually bang on accurate.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2541260/Brummies-furious-advert-hotel-site-whcih-claim-mocks-accent.html

[Miss Vicky]

Alrighty then. I think I could've used some subtitles for that. :laugh:

[The Rodent]

Yeah... things is, you go from Dudley, to Wolves, to Brum, to West Brom... they're cities all within a tiny area... and the accent does sound similar, but when you study them, they actually completely different.


Bridgnorth and Telford have variants of the accent too. It's the Midlands twang though. The kind of accent you can hear through a wall.


I don't have it though. I was born here, but I lived in Scotland for years and going from Midlands to Scottish accents then moving back down here I ended up with a neutral accent.

[The Rodent]

I haven't posted it yet. I'm being radical and working it out on...wait for it...paper!

http://blog.oxbridgeapplications.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/shocked_face.jpg

I know, I know...trendsetter! :D:D:D



The last time I wrote on paper was on a form for the Doctors... I made mistake and I actually moved my hand up and right and went to click the backspace button.


Felt like a right plonker.

[WBadger]

Added. Cool idea, Rodent :cool:

[Hit Girl]

Where are all the aussies? C'mon guys!

[Godoggo]

The last time I wrote on paper was on a form for the Doctors... I made mistake and I actually moved my hand up and right and went to click the backspace button.


Felt like a right plonker.

I still use paper a lot. I have several notebooks full of all sorts of crap.

[christine]

Yeah... things is, you go from Dudley, to Wolves, to Brum, to West Brom... they're cities all within a tiny area... and the accent does sound similar, but when you study them, they actually completely different.


Bridgnorth and Telford have variants of the accent too. It's the Midlands twang though. The kind of accent you can hear through a wall.

Not sure if this is a British thing, but you're right that the accents vary so much within tiny areas of all over the country. You think of how many accents you'll hear if you walked from my home town of Liverpool to Manchester, a distance of 30 miles. You'd hear very strong and very different accents from Scouse, through Woollyback, Lancashire, to Manc and lots of variations in between!

[The Rodent]

In terms of America, I think New York is a good comparison.


Though New York is a billion squillion times larger than say, Brum, Wolves, Dudley and West Brom, you can go from Queens to Brooklyn to Bronx and the accents change radically.




Here's an interesting fact.


West Bromwich (aka; West Brom)... Birmingham was originally called Browmicham in olde Saxon English... West Bromwich was so called as it is the west end of that area.


So the name Brum, Brummy etc comes from that.
Brom, short for Bromwicham.

[Kaplan]

Brummy is Birmingham.


To be a Brummy, you have to come from Birmingham. To have a Brummy accent, means you have that localised accent.


It's very down sounding, miserable sounding almost. Not trying to sound like I'm taking the p*ss, it's genuinely how it sounds.


They add syllables to words too.


Gold is pronounced "Gahwuld"
Soap is pronounced "Sahwup"


Things like that.


To give an idea of the diversity of British accents:
Wolverhampton, which is in the same area as Brum, have completely different mannerisms to the accent. Same sound almost... but Wolverhampton's people are often referred to as Yam-Yams. Yam-Yams hate being called Yam-Yams though.
They say things like "'Ow am ya?" which means "How are you?"

Interesting. And here I just thought all you guys sounded like Mel Gibson.

[The Rodent]

Yeah, I wouldn't pay attention to Australians doing a "British accent"... or anyone doing a "British accent" for that matter.


We have many.


Russell Crowe in Robin Hood was interesting though. He kinda mixed one of the many Irish accents with something I've never heard before with something else I've never heard before and added a some syntax and phonetics from Yorkshire.

[Tacitus]

As someone who's lived in Brum and Walsall and worked additionally in Wolverhampton and West Brom, the West Midlands dialect has always fascinated me.

It's the same all over these islands and, I suspect, everywhere else. You've got to know an area well to notice it though.

[Mr Minio]

Some of you guys are really close to each other, especially in UK. Ever thought of meeting up?

[The Rodent]

When you say close... in terms of UK Vs USA then yeah, we're closer but we're all still a few hours apart.


Skepsis and I are about 20-30 minutes apart and n3wt and Daniel I'd say is about the same... which I think is the closest so far.


For distance/time bearings though, Slob and I are about 2.5 hours apart.

[Mr Minio]

20-30 minutes apart is pretty close, dude. Some people travel that distance everyday. Twice.

[The Sci-Fi Slob]

For distance/time bearings though, Slob and I are about 2.5 hours apart.

4 hours if you take a train.:D

[The Rodent]

By train that is... driving from mine to Skep is about an hour and a half on the M54. M54 is like the M6... one huge traffic jam. All day long.




But yeah, pretty close geographically. I don't drive though, no license any more.

[Mr Minio]

Travel by bus, then. Do you have good public transport in there?

[The Rodent]

Actually, yeah... Slob's right.


Train from where I am to where he is takes hours. My kids live near where he is, and from my front door to theirs, using trains as transport... takes anywhere up to 6 hours.

[The Rodent]

Lol!


Bus.


To go from one end of my town to the other... you need to take 3 busses and it takes about an hour.
You can walk it quicker than that. No joke.




Public transport in Britain is abysmal.


Expensive too. The journey to go from here to Manchester is about 100 miles, takes 6 hours, 4 trains, and costs about £60.

[The Rodent]

Believe it or not, there are huge area of my town that have no bus stops.


The industrial estates don't which is why most of them have closed down and there's no work around here any more... and the retail parks around here are completely inaccessible if you're using public transport (apart from taxis of course which cost about £4 per mile).

[Camo]

What is up with you people and your Brummy accents and plummy accents and whatever?
What does a "brummy" accent even sound like?

Ozzy Osbourne :p

[The Rodent]

Noddy Holder as well from Slade... I think he was from closer to Dudley though?

[Camo]

Just add me to anywhere in the south of Glasgow Rodent. I don't want to do it myself because i'll end up accidentally choosing my adress :laugh:

[The Sci-Fi Slob]

Third world countries have better public transport than Britain. I saw funny clip on one of those BBC 3 reality police shows the other night. The police in Lincolnshire found some guy staggering in the middle of a duel carriageway at 4 o'clock in the morning, he was Welsh and was on holiday in Skegness. He was that drunk he forgot where his hotel was and tried to walk to back to Wales, 230 miles away. Still quicker than the train, though. :D

[The Rodent]

You're on there, Camo.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Lol!


Bus.


To go from one end of my town to the other... you need to take 3 busses and it takes about an hour.
You can walk it quicker than that. No joke.




Public transport in Britain is abysmal.


Expensive too. The journey to go from here to Manchester is about 100 miles, takes 6 hours, 4 trains, and costs about £60.

Rodent, why are there always such huge spaces between your paragraphs?

[The Rodent]

I press it twice sometimes.

[Skepsis93]

Brummys use the term Brummys for themselves though. They love the term.

They even refer to Birmingham as Brum.

Not all of us.

The thick brummie accent is amongst the worst in the world. Mercifully I only have a twinge, I've been told my accent is pretty generic but with just a hint of brummie, my friends still tease me for it though. :p

[seanc]

The closest to me isn't very close. Either Movie Gal, Yoda, or SeanC.

I think me, you, and yoda should do a mofo/fantasy meet up in Cincinnati next summer and go to a Reds game. I have been trying to come up with an excuse to go to that ballpark for three summers now and nobody is game.

[ashdoc]

added myself .:)

[Citizen Rules]

I added myself to the map. Now you guys can come over for barbecue.;) You bring the beer....


Wait a minute. you might bring lame beer. I'll supply the beer too!

[Derek Vinyard]

I add myself :) ! It's nice hehe

[Derek Vinyard]

I cannot add my avatar but it's ok :p thanks Rodent Awesome idea !

[The Rodent]

It's not perfect but I got a still of your avatar on there...

[TheUsualSuspect]

I guess no one would want to make an effort to come to Canada, eh?

[Frightened Inmate No. 2]

crap i accidentally made a lot of extra ones because i didn't think it submitted. you can delete all of them except for the one that's closest to the wisconsin border because that's more accurate.

[The Rodent]

You put about 40 of them on Chicago!!! Lol!!!


Deleted them and left one on Chigaco... :up:

[The Rodent]

I guess no one would want to make an effort to come to Canada, eh?



Which US State is that? :D

[The Rodent]

Here's a question... are there no MoFos from central States?


With exception to MovieGal and JJ, you're all East Coast or West Coast...

[Kaplan]

Here's a question... are there no MoFos from central States?


With exception to MovieGal and JJ, you're all East Coast or West Coast...

Don't you know, nobody lives in the middle of the U.S. It's nothing but a giant corn field. (With some pot plants mixed in.)

[VFN]

How some have redrawn a large chunk of North America.

http://www.basetree.com/graphics/jesusland.jpg

[Tacitus]

Noddy Holder as well from Slade... I think he was from closer to Dudley though?

Noddy's a proud Walsall man from Caldmore (pronounced 'Karma' :p) and I think he was given freeman of the borough recently. Caldmore was no doubt a proud working class area in its day but the way I remember it was as one big tower block. You needed to have eyes in the back of your head if you walked through there on your way home from the pub.

Ow yam diddlin', me duck. etc etc etc

[The Rodent]

That it then?


1 South American
1 Indian
2 European
2 Australians
4 Canadians
12 British
18 Americans


And 1 from Reunion Island (part of France but just East of Madagascar) who I'm not sure who it is

[Mr Minio]

It's me picking the place randomly. It's awesome. :P

[Sleezy]

Added mine.

[bouncingbrick]

Added me.

[The Rodent]

Any more for the Map?


Been quiet the past week or so...

[Erasmus Folly]

Added

[Gatsby]

Added!

[MovieGal]

Im bumping this for new people to add their location.. and for the older users that have been here for a while to see where we live..

I get mistaken for someone who lives in Europe a lot! I live in the Midwest part of the United States..

[neiba]

Thanks for that MG, didn't know this thread! Location added!

[Camo]

Just looked at that map and I remember telling Rodent to put me anywhere in Glasgow. Funny thing is he got it more right then wrong about me and JayDees location.

[Guaporense]

Added

Interesting how geographic location influences tastes in movies. People from continental Europe are more likely to like Eastern European films, for instance. I noticed that I apparently do not have geographical preference in that regard (liking more stuff closer to me, though problem is that South American cinema is weak in Science Fiction, Fantasy, Animation and Cuteness (SFFAC), which are the four "categories" that I prefer).

[Guaporense]

That it then?


1 South American
1 Indian
2 European
2 Australians
4 Canadians
12 British
18 Americans

And 1 from Reunion Island (part of France but just East of Madagascar) who I'm not sure who it is

Correction, 14 Europeans, because you know, the UK is in Europe. :rolleyes:

2 South Americans now.

Impressive how many British there are here. I think that given the poor climate of England people there spend more time at the computer than in the US, considering US's population and number of internet users is 5 times larger.

[neiba]

Added

Interesting how geographic location influences tastes in movies. People from continental Europe are more likely to like Eastern European films, for instance. I noticed that I apparently do not have geographical preference in that regard (liking more stuff closer to me, though problem is that South American cinema is weak in Science Fiction, Fantasy, Animation and Cuteness (SFFAC), which are the four "categories" that I prefer).

I think people who don't live in english-talking countries accept better non-english movies, probably because almost every movie they see is foreign! We are used to the subtitles! :p

[MovieGal]

I think people who don't live in english-talking countries accept better non-english movies, probably because almost every movie they see is foreign! We are used to the subtitles! :p

What? I watch far more foreign films with subs than I do english speaking films.. and I watch films from all over the world... not just certain locations..

[neiba]

What? I watch far more foreign films with subs than I do english speaking films.. and I watch films from all over the world... not just certain locations..

I know that MG! But how many people do you know like you?

I'm not referring to this forum in particular, just to the general public!

[MovieGal]

I know that MG! But how many people do you know like you?

I'm not referring to this forum in particular, just to the general public!

There is no one like me! and never will be!!!

[Guaporense]

Exactly. But not only that, Sane, is English speaking, from Australia, but it is a country which is very far from US and Europe, hence less influenced by their cultural sphere and more easily influenced by Asia, which is relatively closer. He/she also watches more Asian movies in general.

I also think that Brazil's distance from Europe and the US made the country relatively more open to Asian pop culture. Fact is that when I was growing up Brazilian kids TV was 2/3 Japanese TV series (animated and live action) and significant amounts of Jap movies (like all Godzilla movies dubbed in Portuguese :D). I think that partly explains my fascination with Japanese pop culture.

[MovieGal]

Exactly. But not only that, Sane, is English speaking, from Australia, but it is a country which is very far from US and Europe, hence less influenced by their cultural sphere and more easily influenced by Asia, which is relatively closer. He/she also watches more Asian movies in general.

I also think that Brazil's distance from Europe and the US made the country relatively more open to Asian pop culture. Fact is that when I was growing up Brazilian kids TV was 2/3 Japanese TV series (animated and live action) and significant amounts of Jap movies (like all Godzilla movies dubbed in Portuguese :D). I think that partly explains my fascination with Japanese pop culture.

You do realize we had Japanese cartoons in the US during the 1960's...

I grew up watching "Speed Racer" or as the original title is.. "Macha GoGo".

[Camo]

Correction, 14 Europeans, because you know, the UK is in Europe. :rolleyes:

2 South Americans now.

Impressive how many British there are here. I think that given the poor climate of England people there spend more time at the computer than in the US, considering US's population and number of internet users is 5 times larger.

I was sure that Sane's schooling of you regarding Asia, had taught you not to judge somewhere you haven't visited or have the slightest clue about. Apparently you never learn.

Also City of God = Brazil

[Guaporense]

What? I watch far more foreign films with subs than I do english speaking films.. and I watch films from all over the world... not just certain locations..

For every sociological model there is the exception. My point was that the proportion of people from continental Europe who watches, let's say, more than 30% of their movies/TV non-English European films, is higher than in the US or UK. Of course, the US is a huge country with a huge middle class and there are people in the US who are fans of virtually anything, a Argentinian friend when to live in a small town in Wisconsin for a year and he found a hardcore Boca Juniors fan there!

[Guaporense]

I was sure that Sane's schooling of you regarding Asia,

When?

had taught you not to judge somewhere you haven't visited or have the slightest clue about. Apparently you never learn.

While I have never been to England, my English friends commented a bit about the climate there.

Also City of God = Brazil

City of God is a very good portrait of the culture of the most populous region of Brazil in fact.

You are a dear friend Camo. :D Always so friendly and not judgmental. :D

Number of Internet users, from http://www.internetlivestats.com/internet-users/

US --------- 279,834,232
UK --------- 57,075,826
Canada --- 33,000,381

A difference of nearly 5 times. Notice that the proportion of the UK population who has access to the internet is slightly higher than in the US, same applies to Canada.

Canada has the highest proportion of the pop in the internet (93%) because they have the worst climate, it's super cold, "thunder" cold. Canadians are also overepresented here compared to Americans (4 to 18, ratio of 4.5, while ratio of users is over 8).

[Camo]

You are a dear friend Camo. :D

Thanks. Also...

Brazil (1985) = Brazil

[Guaporense]

On Climate:

Average precipitation:

UK --- 854.8 mm
US --- 742.44 mm

UK has more precipitation than in the US. It's true that thanks to the Atlantic currents the winter in the UK is much milder than in the US (specially in the north of the midwest), but overall the UK is not very warm. My friend from Northern England said that it's always around 0 celsius to 10 celsius, which might not be ideal for outdoor activities.

I believe climatic reasons help to explain why the industrial revolution happened in the UK. Since it's the ideal climate for indoor work. Only with the invention of the air conditioner the industrial revolution spread through tropical climates. :D

[Guaporense]

Thanks. Also...

Brazil (1985) = Brazil

Indeed. While it's a British film, it portrays a dystopian society full of bureaucratic elements, Brazil is a dystopian bureaucratic society.

[The Rodent]

Correction, 14 Europeans, because you know, the UK is in Europe. :rolleyes:

2 South Americans now.

Impressive how many British there are here. I think that given the poor climate of England people there spend more time at the computer than in the US, considering US's population and number of internet users is 5 times larger.



Don't even joke about the European thing. We aren't Europe.
The US is closer to Russia than we are to Europe, so saying we are Europe is like saying Americans are all Communistic Ruskies.


We use the Pound and hardly any British people speak another language.
I'd hazard a guess that 80%-90% of white British are English speaking only.
I learned French at school, but unlearned it within a week of leaving school... most white British are the same.




As for climate.
Yeah we have a dreary climate 75% of the time, but living here for 1500 years or so our people are used to it.
Sure if you were born and bred in the Australian outback and moved here to the UK in your 40s, you probably would stay indoors most of the time.


I lived in the north of Scotland for years. Up there it approaches the kind of weather seen at the poles and we still had to walk to catch a bus to school.
Worst winter I remember was in December 1994, the snow reached 12 feet. Still had to go to school though. By bus.


Makes me laugh here in England (even though I'm English) how soft some people are though. Ground frost is enough to halt all public transport and shut down schools and shops.

[The Rodent]

Addition: I spoke Gaelic as a kid though.


Living in the north, all the kids' TV was in Gaelic so I had to learn. But, like French, I forgot it very quickly once I'd moved back to England.

[Zotis]

I added mine, please stalk me now.

[Guaporense]

Don't even joke about the European thing. We aren't Europe.
The US is closer to Russia than we are to Europe, so saying we are Europe is like saying Americans are all Communistic Ruskies.

We use the Pound and hardly any British people speak another language.
I'd hazard a guess that 80%-90% of white British are English speaking only.
I learned French at school, but unlearned it within a week of leaving school... most white British are the same.

No, the UK is a part of Europe. That's basic geography.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe

How did you not know that? :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

As for climate. Yeah we have a dreary climate 75% of the time, but living here for 1500 years or so our people are used to it. Sure if you were born and bred in the Australian outback and moved here to the UK in your 40s, you probably would stay indoors most of the time.

I lived in the north of Scotland for years. Up there it approaches the kind of weather seen at the poles and we still had to walk to catch a bus to school.
Worst winter I remember was in December 1994, the snow reached 12 feet. Still had to go to school though. By bus.

Makes me laugh here in England (even though I'm English) how soft some people are though. Ground frost is enough to halt all public transport and shut down schools and shops.

The winter in the UK is not that bad compared to Canada or parts of the northern US though.

[The Rodent]

No, the UK is a part of Europe. That's basic geography.




http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q552/The-Rodent/11081400_955120424498677_1602111213953023792_n_zpsitx85mge.jpg (http://s1163.photobucket.com/user/The-Rodent/media/11081400_955120424498677_1602111213953023792_n_zpsitx85mge.jpg.html)

[Mr Minio]

The US is closer to Russia than we are to Europe, so saying we are Europe is like saying Americans are all Communistic Ruskies.

Strait of Dover is 33 km.

Bering Strait is 82 km.

Nope.

Just nope.

[The Rodent]

The US owns a few small islands, as does Russia... the closest point is 2 miles. The US has soil that is 2 miles from Russian soil.

[Zotis]

Okay, let's get something straight here. There are 7 continents. North America, South America, Africa, Europe, Asia, Australia, and Antarctica.

So if the UK isn't part of Europe, then which continent is it part of? I'm sure some people would love to think the UK is it's own continent, but sadly it is not.

[The Rodent]

The UK is an island.

[Zotis]

The UK is more than one Island. Nice try, but that doesn't even answer the question in the first place.

[Zotis]

Alright, I think I found a clue...

From merriam-webster.com, the definition of continent includes, "one of the great divisions of land (such as North America, South America, Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia, or Antarctica) of the Earth

the Continent : the countries of Europe except for Great Britain and Ireland"

Hmm... I was under the impression that every country had to be attached to a continent. But this seems to imply that islands simply are not part of any continent...

[The Rodent]

You guys are talking in technical terms. Under the Channel the landmasses are connected.


But 99% of the British hate the fact we are often called Europe. Politically, we hate them. We even have several Parties that are calling for the UK to leave the EU.


Over the centuries we've knocked the spit out them in countless wars.
The Scots were the only people who successfully held off the Romans. Held them off so well and scared the Romans so bad in fact, that Hadrian's Wall was built by the Romans to keep the Scots out :D




I have yet to meet a Brit who says we are "part of Europe".
This is f*cking Britain, and I don't often swear on MoFo, but Europe can f*ck right off.

[The Rodent]

Also, if we were part of Europe as much as people reckon... why do you need a passport to get from the UK to Europe and vice-versa?


You don't need a passport to go from France to Germany etc.

[Zotis]

So you're attached to the landmass of the European continent and part of the European Union, but you're not part of Europe because you don't like Europe?

[Zotis]

You need a passport to go from Canada to the U.S. I guess that means Canada isn't part of North America?

[The Rodent]

It's part of North America... but not part of the USA.


Canada and USA are different countries that share a land border and are on the same landmass.


The UK is an island, separated by nearly 30 miles of water at the closest point (which is getting larger by the way because the UK is still moving away from Europe).

[gbgoodies]

You need a passport to go from Canada to the U.S. I guess that means Canada isn't part of North America?


I've been to Canada several times, and I've never had a passport. You don't need a passport to go from the U.S. to Canada, so I doubt you need one to go from Canada to the U.S.

[Zotis]

Okay, I think I'm just going to eject myself from the debate now.

[Zotis]

I've been to Canada several times, and I've never had a passport. You don't need a passport to go from the U.S. to Canada, so I doubt you need one to go from Canada to the U.S.

Really? Hmm... that's interesting because I've been thinking about visiting the U.S. for some game tournaments. What do you need then? Just a couple pieces of ID?

[christine]

On Climate:

Average precipitation:

UK --- 854.8 mm
US --- 742.44 mm

UK has more precipitation than in the US. It's true that thanks to the Atlantic currents the winter in the UK is much milder than in the US (specially in the north of the midwest), but overall the UK is not very warm. My friend from Northern England said that it's always around 0 celsius to 10 celsius, which might not be ideal for outdoor activities.

I believe climatic reasons help to explain why the industrial revolution happened in the UK. Since it's the ideal climate for indoor work. Only with the invention of the air conditioner the industrial revolution spread through tropical climates. :D

You haven't witnessed a night out whatever time of year in Northern England! I've worn more clothes on the beach than those youngsters wear on a freezing cold night :D

Interesting idea about the industrial revolution but the UK became the front runner of the industrial revolution as it was already a rich merchant country with a burgeoning commercial textile industry ripe for being mechanised. It had the money, the clusters of urban population as well as a great interest in science and engineering.

I don't think you can compare rainfall in the UK with the whole of the land mass of the US with all its different regional climates . The whole of the UK is only the size of the state of Alabama .

[christine]

Also, if we were part of Europe as much as people reckon... why do you need a passport to get from the UK to Europe and vice-versa?


You don't need a passport to go from France to Germany etc.

We are a European country. We need a passport to get into and out of Europe as we have opted out of the Schengen Agreement which allows free movement between European countries. We wanted authority over our own border being an island whereas the rest of Europe wanted to make it easier to pass through borders as they were adjoined anyway. The Republic of Ireland has also opted out as they wanted to keep the free movement arrangement with the UK.

Rodent is not a fan of the idea of being European, but you can't get away from the fact that geographically we are part of the European continent.

[Mr Minio]

If the UK is not Europe, then Madagascar is not Africa and Ceylon is not Asia.

[The Rodent]

^^ Madagascar is attached to the African continent today, but was part of the Asian continent.
Madagascar was once connected to India, and is also in the Indian Ocean... which are both part of Asia.


It was also owned by the French up until 1960. Which is Europe.


In turn all continents were connected at some point in the past. There's been 15 Supercontinents over the squillions of years: Ur, Vaalbara, Kenorland, Paleopangea, Columbia, Rodinia, Pannotia, Superia, Sclavia, Nuna, Laurentia, Baltica, Siberia, Gondwana and the most recent called Pangaea.


It's all swings and roundabouts but I will never, ever, class Britain as Europe.

[Tacitus]

Settle down, Nige. ;)

[Zotis]

Rodent, why do you like making moot points so much? :p

[honeykid]

UK has more precipitation than in the US. It's true that thanks to the Atlantic currents the winter in the UK is much milder than in the US (specially in the north of the midwest), but overall the UK is not very warm. My friend from Northern England said that it's always around 0 celsius to 10 celsius, which might not be ideal for outdoor activities.


Or, as verybritishproblems puts it

Heatwave!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CB60FqWWAAEOo7d.jpg

[christine]

yay! heatwave! it was 21 this afternoon. Just perfect :up:

[Citizen Rules]

It's sunny here and might hit 65.

[The Gunslinger45]

Oh look, new people added to the map! Cool.


Oh yeah and bump.

[The Rodent]

At 56 now... I've found a little quirk at the top right of the slidy bar on the right hand side there's a double arrow >> symbol. Click it and it shows an alphabetical list of everyone on the map.

[christine]

Yoda, can we get the map pinned to the top of the Movie Forums Site stuff? It's really interesting :)

[christine]

At 56 now... I've found a little quirk at the top right of the slidy bar on the right hand side there's a double arrow >> symbol. Click it and it shows an alphabetical list of everyone on the map.

Hey that's a great feature. You'd never know that was there tho would you?

[Ðèstîñy]

Yoda, can we get the map pinned to the top of the Movie Forums Site stuff? It's really interesting :)

Number 57, and I will for now, until he has time to see this and decide. Why? Because I had no clue that this was here.

[christine]

Number 57, and I will for now, until he has time to see this and decide. Why? Because I had no clue that this was here.

Thanks :)
I remembered he did say he'd think about it back when Rodent first made it.
It's a good resource tho isn't it? Makes you think how amazing communication is these days!

edit spelling!

[Guaporense]

But 99% of the British hate the fact we are often called Europe. Politically, we hate them. We even have several Parties that are calling for the UK to leave the EU.

Often? UK is part of Europe. It's like denying that Cuba is part of the Americas.

Over the centuries we've knocked the spit out them in countless wars.

As happened to all major European countries. Germany alone killed far more other Europeans in WW2 than the UK did in all of it's history.

The Scots were the only people who successfully held off the Romans.

No they were not the only ones, Germans and Parthians along with the tribes of Ethiopia also shared a border with Rome for many centuries. However, Rome did not annex these territories, including Scotland, because they were regarded as too poor and barbaric to be worth conquering. In fact, England was conquered due to a public promotion project by Claudius, since it was also considered not worth conquering but Claudius wanted popularity so conquering new lands, even useless ones, was a political tool.

I have yet to meet a Brit who says we are "part of Europe". This is f*cking Britain, and I don't often swear on MoFo, but Europe can f*ck right off.

Ok. But I do know.

[Guaporense]

I've been to Canada several times, and I've never had a passport. You don't need a passport to go from the U.S. to Canada, so I doubt you need one to go from Canada to the U.S.

I need a passport to go to the US and Brazil is part of the American continent (in Brazil we regard the Americas as a single continent). Mexicans need a passport to get into the US, by the way.

[SilentVamp]

I've been to Canada several times, and I've never had a passport. You don't need a passport to go from the U.S. to Canada, so I doubt you need one to go from Canada to the U.S.
I've never been to Canada. So, I can't speak from experience. I heard once, though, that it is better to have a passport because it makes the crossing easier. At least I think that is what was said. But you do need proof of your citizenship, right? Say, an ID or something like that?


I've added myself, by the way. :)

[gbgoodies]

I've never been to Canada. So, I can't speak from experience. I heard once, though, that it is better to have a passport because it makes the crossing easier. At least I think that is what was said. But you do need proof of your citizenship, right? Say, an ID or something like that?


I've added myself, by the way. :)


The only thing that I had with me was normal stuff like my driver's license and credit cards, but they never asked for anything. They basically just stopped us at the border and asked a few questions like why we were going to Canada, how long we were planning to stay, etc.

I guess they just know how to read people, and if they don't like your answers, or if they think that you're lying, they probably pull you over and ask for your ID.

[SilentVamp]

The only thing that I had with me was normal stuff like my driver's license and credit cards, but they never asked for anything. They basically just stopped us at the border and asked a few questions like why we were going to Canada, how long we were planning to stay, etc.

I guess they just know how to read people, and if they don't like your answers, or if they think that you're lying, they probably pull you over and ask for your ID.

Well, that is good to know. I have been considering going just to go (I am not too terribly far from there). I actually don't have a passport right now. So, this is a plus for me the next time that I plan on going on a trip. :)

[gbgoodies]

Well, that is good to know. I have been considering going just to go (I am not too terribly far from there). I actually don't have a passport right now. So, this is a plus for me the next time that I plan on going on a trip. :)


You may want to double-check and make sure that nothing's changed in recent years. I think I was there before 9/11, so they may have changed the requirements for obvious reasons. I know that they've changed all kinds of requirements for airline travel, but I don't know what they've done about people who drive their own vehicles across the border.

[SilentVamp]

You may want to double-check and make sure that nothing's changed in recent years. I think I was there before 9/11, so they may have changed the requirements for obvious reasons. I know that they've changed all kinds of requirements for airline travel, but I don't know what they've done about people who drive their own vehicles across the border.
Well, from what I saw today, I think you do need a passport or a passport card. :( Oh, well. I just don't feel like spending the money on either one when I am not really planning on going anywhere any time soon. Life goes on. :)

[gbgoodies]

Well, from what I saw today, I think you do need a passport or a passport card. :( Oh, well. I just don't feel like spending the money on either one when I am not really planning on going anywhere any time soon. Life goes on. :)


I just did a quick Google search, and it looks like the laws changed in 2009.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g153339-s602/Canada:Crossing.The.Border.html

"US citizens can no longer cross the border, back into the US, from Canada, using only a driver's licence and birth certificate. Due to changes in U.S. law that took effect June 1, 2009, there are more strict requirements for what identification is required; see the table below for a list of acceptable documents."