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Citizen Rules

12-21-15, 12:10 AM

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Young Frankenstein (1974)

Director: Mel Brooks
Writers: Gene Wilder, Mel Brooks
Cast: Gene Wilder, Madeline Kahn, Marty Feldman, Terri Garr, Peter Boyle, Cloris Leachman
Genre: Comedy

Dr. Frankenstein (Gene Wilder) is the modern day American grandson of the infamous scientist who created the original 'Frankenstein's monster'. In an attempt to prove that his ideas are not crazy, young Dr. Frankenstein travels to his ancestral home and takes up residents in the old family castle. There he discovers his grandfathers recipe for reanimating the dead.

I loved the look of this film, there were many nods to the film making of the early 1930s. Of course the most visible 30s retro look is Mel Brooks' decision to shoot in glorious black & white. I love black & white for a subject like this one. With all of the extraneous colors stripped out we're left with form, texture and shadows. The film becomes dream like and the lighting can readily show the texture of the old castle's bricks or the frazzled hair of Dr Frankenstein after he has emerged from the act of creation. Black & White allows side and back lighting to work to greater effect...it makes the movie great.

Another nod to the serials and matinee films of the 1930s was the scene transition wipes. The wipes come when one scene ends and another begins. There are all sorts of cool scene wipes used: diagonal wipes, shrink to a hole-then expand back to full screen wipes, rotating wipes. Very cool! and it shows how much care was put into this film to make it look like an authentic early 30s film.

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Many of the same electronic lab equipment that was used in the original Frankenstein film was used in Young Frankenstein.

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Wow! does Gene Wilder deliver some of the most dramatic dialogue ever! The man is a master of diction! I wish we had a time machine and could send Gene Wilder back to play Dr. Frankenstein in the original 1930s movie. My gawd! can you image how much more powerful that film had been with Gene Wilder belting out He's alive!

And how about Marty Feldman, he has to be one of the most memorable character actors to grace the screen as Eyegur. With stellar performances being turned in by Madeline Kahn and Cloris Leachman too.

And let's not forget the adorably cute, Terri Garr!
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This is Mel Brooks and Gene Wilder at their best.

rating_4_5+

Citizen Rules

12-21-15, 12:11 AM

No, I haven't watched it yet, but it was one of the few movies in that HoF that got good reviews, so it's on my watchlist for the 1950s countdown.
I expect Mon Oncle to place well on the 1950s countdown. I know I liked it.

gbgoodies

12-21-15, 12:16 AM

I watched Young Frankenstein for the 1970s countdown, but I just don't get the appeal of that movie. I usually like both Mel Brooks and Gene Wilder, and I've always heard how funny the movie is, so maybe my expectations were too high, but I just didn't find it funny. :shrug:

Citizen Rules

12-21-15, 12:19 AM

I don't know, I loved it. I think it might have won the Comedy Hof too.

gbgoodies

12-21-15, 12:20 AM

I don't know, I loved it. I think it might have won the Comedy Hof too.

I thought the Comedy HoF was still open? How many people actually sent in their lists?

Citizen Rules

12-21-15, 12:23 AM

2 and mine was 1 of them. And yes it's still open.

gbgoodies

12-21-15, 12:26 AM

2 and mine was 1 of them. And yes it's still open.

I think it might be a little bit too early to predict a winner yet. :skeptical:

Captain Steel

12-21-15, 01:43 PM

Have you guys ever seen Mel Brooks' Dracula: Dead and Loving It (1995) ?
I think it's underrated, particularly because of the success of Young Frankenstein.
Basically, Brooks did the same thing as he followed the original Tod Browning Dracula (1931) movie very closely.

Why Brooks didn't do his Dracula in black & white, I don't know. Maybe he thought it would be seen as merely capitalizing on Young Frankenstein - but it was doing that already, so why not go b&w? I think making it b&w would have made it a sequel of sorts to Young Frankenstein, but that could have been a good thing - it would have put it in a series, kind of. It would also have given it the look of the source it was spoofing.

But I think if you reversed the dates on the movies (having Dracula before Young Frankenstein) and had them both in b&w, then Brooks' Dracula would be what Young Frankenstein is today, and Young Frankenstein might be considered the lesser sequel. (Just a guess.)

Anyway, for anyone that has an appreciation for the Universal Monster movies or the works of Mel Brooks, you may find Dracula: Dead and Loving It an equal homage & almost as funny as Young Frankenstein.

Citizen Rules

12-21-15, 11:12 PM

gbgoodies

12-21-15, 11:29 PM

I saw Dracula: Dead and Loving It a LONG time ago. All I really remember about it was that it was kind of funny, but also kind of stupid. Basically a typical Leslie Nielsen movie. I don't think I even knew that it was a Mel Brooks movie back when I saw it.

If you want to see a funny Dracula movie, you should watch Love at First Bite with George Hamilton. That's a very funny movie, and Richard Benjamin steals the movie.

Citizen Rules

12-21-15, 11:33 PM

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Wild Tales (2014) Relatos salvajes (original title)

Director/Writer: Damián Szifrón
Cast: Darío Grandinetti, María Marull, Mónica Villa
Genre: Dark Comedy, Drama Thriller
Language: Spaish
Length: 122 minutes

Six short stories involving distressed people and revenge.

Wild Tales...That's a good name for this movie. It's six separate wild tales...wild, as in wildly dark humor and wildly dark drama. If you like the macabre, then this will probably be to your liking.

The film looked great. In the opening tale on an airplane, I noticed that a lot of detail was paid to the art direction. The basic colors where white and aqua with red used as an accent color. This excellent eye for art direction carried though out the entire film. The shot length, the sets, the lighting were all things of beauty.

The actors seemed to be real people and that's a good thing too. I really liked the POV shots done from inside the airplane's overhead luggage compartment or from inside a printer...they added a unique intimacy as we got an impossible shot, which yielded a candid view of the character. The director really did a first rate job with this film.

I liked the 2nd and 6th tales the best. All of the tales were cleverly done with a twist that reminded me of the TV series Tales From the Crypt.

The 2nd tale which took place in a small diner had a secluded feel with just three characters interacting, it was my favorite.

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However the third tale of two men engaged in road rage battle, crossed the line into sophomoric range and was overly violent, IMO. Even worse we didn't need to see a close up of a man's bum as he relived himself on the windshield. Had that shot not been done from inside the car looking through the windshield at the man's nether regions, I would have gave this a higher rating. As it was shot, it was just cheap shock for the sake of shocking and that's not good film making.

The tale of the man who had his car towed was pretty straight forward. His frustration at a corrupt bureaucracy that didn't care, is something we all can relate to. The deepest emotional tale was the man who's son had just killed a woman in an hit and run accident, it was poignantly tragic and felt very real.

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The tale of the bridezilla was pretty funny and intentionally over the top, that was the funniest tale. But mostly this is not a comedy, it's a well made, but very dark film.

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Captain Steel

12-21-15, 11:40 PM

I've never seen Dracula: Dead and Loving It. That title does come up from time to time and I seem to recall that GBG seen it? But I'm not known for having the best memory. Perhaps it's Leslie Nelson that keeps it from being as highly regarded as Young Frankenstein? That's not a slight on Leslie he's darn fun in the Airport movie but when I think of him I think way over the top style comedy.

That's kind of my one criticism of Dracula: DALI. I'm sure many would disagree with me, but I don't see Leslie Nielson as Dracula. He does a fine job in the film and was funny as always, but he just doesn't look like Dracula.
Of course, it's a comedy spoof so it's not supposed to be taken seriously - so I'm sure some would say the fact that he doesn't look like Dracula or Lugosi makes it all the funnier. Besides, none of the people in Young Frankenstein looked like their counterparts from James Whale's Frankenstein (1931).

Still, the movie's probably almost as well done as Young Frankenstein and is very faithful to spoofing the source material. It's another film that's full of great bits. But, of course, much of the appreciation comes from being at least slightly familiar with the film and story its spoofing. It's a great movie in the Mel Brooks' tradition - for if you just want some quick laughs, a great lampoon of a classic, some occasionally suggestive humor, and don't want to think too much!

gbgoodies

12-21-15, 11:46 PM

James Whale's Frankenstein (1931).

That explains the character of Dr. Whale/Victor Frankenstein on the TV show "Once Upon a Time". :facepalm:

Citizen Rules

12-21-15, 11:46 PM

gbgoodies

12-21-15, 11:49 PM

Citizen Rules

12-21-15, 11:51 PM

I've heard you talk about Spaceballs, so as it has John Candy I'll watch that one. Maybe the other one, one of these days. I don't generally like screwball comedies unless they have Carol Lombard in them:D

Captain Steel

12-21-15, 11:59 PM

Hey, I just found out that Dracula: Dead and Loving It was the last film Mel Brooks ever directed. Did it bomb so badly that he quit directing? I see his second to the last was a box office flop,Robin Hood: Men in Tights.

I'm sure Dracula: DALI is funny but I've never been a fan of his movies, which is odd as I've only seen one of them (Young Frankenstein) and I loved it.

So, if you've never seen any of his other movies, how can you say you've never been a fan of them. Oh, I get it. Of course you could not be a fan if you've never seen any! ;)

BTW, Brooks plays Dr. Van Helsing in Dracula: DALI (unlike Young Frankenstein where he did not appear.)

P.S. I also love History of the World Part I (there is no Part II, btw.)
Spaceballs I'm mediocre on - although I haven't seen it in decades. It always seemed to be a favorite of the Star Wars Heads (obviously). Maybe NOW is a good time for a re-watch (obviously). I don't want to spoil, but I could watch the Alien scene again - probably the most memorable & funniest scene in the movie.

Captain Steel

12-22-15, 12:02 AM

That explains the character of Dr. Whale/Victor Frankenstein on the TV show "Once Upon a Time". :facepalm:

:D

I feel like I'm doing free-association now, but if you're at all interested in James Whale, check out the movie Gods and Monsters (1998) - it's about his personal life..

Citizen Rules

12-22-15, 12:03 AM

Ahh, interesting film, Captain. I watched Gods and Monsters awhile ago. I didn't know that James Whales was so influential in early Hollywood, especially with early Horror films.

gbgoodies

12-22-15, 12:11 AM

Spaceballs I'm mediocre on - although I haven't seen it in decades. It always seemed to be a favorite of the Star Wars Heads (obviously). Maybe NOW is a good time for a re-watch (obviously). I don't want to spoil, but I could watch the Alien scene again - probably the most memorable & funniest scene in the movie.

I agree. I'm not a fan of the movie Alien, but that scene is hysterical.

I feel like I'm doing free-association now, but if you're at all interested in James Whale, check out the movie Gods and Monsters (1998) - it's about his personal life..

I don't know if you watch "Once Upon a Time", but there's a character named Dr. Whale, and his fantasy counterpart is Victor Frankenstein. I never got the connection until you posted that.

Captain Steel

12-22-15, 12:25 AM

I agree. I'm not a fan of the movie Alien, but that scene is hysterical.

I don't know if you watch "Once Upon a Time", but there's a character named Dr. Whale, and his fantasy counterpart is Victor Frankenstein. I never got the connection until you posted that.

Haven't seen the show, but glad I could be of help with the reference! ;)

gbgoodies

12-22-15, 12:34 AM

Haven't seen the show, but glad I could be of help with the reference! ;)

You should watch it. It's one of the best shows on TV, ever! But you have to watch it from the beginning. You can't just jump in in the middle or you'll never understand what's going on.

SilentVamp

12-22-15, 01:08 AM

I don't generally like screwball comedies unless they have Carol Lombard in them:D
I see this and I have to ask you a question. :) Have you ever seen "My Man Godfrey"? I can honestly say that that movie is my favorite film to come out of the 1930's. There are some great movies from that decade, but there is just something about that one that I can watch continuously without ever getting tired of it.

honeykid

12-22-15, 08:48 AM

:D

I feel like I'm doing free-association now, but if you're at all interested in James Whale, check out the movie Gods and Monsters (1998) - it's about his personal life..

Now that is a good film. Forget all that Mel Brooks crap and watch a proper film. :D

Citizen Rules

12-22-15, 12:35 PM

I see this and I have to ask you a question. :) Have you ever seen "My Man Godfrey"? I can honestly say that that movie is my favorite film to come out of the 1930's. There are some great movies from that decade, but there is just something about that one that I can watch continuously without ever getting tired of it. :) My Man Godfrey is one of my favorites and when we do a 1930's Top Countdown that film will certainly be on my list. Carol Lombard is one of my all time favorite comediennes along with Jean Arthur, Claudette Colbert and Joan Blondell.

I've seen a number of Carole's movies, but not all and I've yet to watch her in a silent film. The oldest film I've seen of hers was High Voltage (1929) which was an early talkie and a survival film.

Citizen Rules

12-22-15, 07:03 PM

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Sherlock Jr. (1924)

Director: Buster Keaton
Cast: Buster Keaton, Kathryn McGuire, Joe Keaton
Genre: Comedy Fantasy
Sound: Silent
Length: 45 minutes

Buster Keaton works in a movie theater running the projector and daydreams of being a famous detective. When his rival slips a stolen watch pawn ticket into Keaton's coat pocket, Buster must clear his name by using his skills as a detective.

Silent films can be fun! At only 45 minutes this is a quick and fun watch! Many of the silent films suffer from poor print quality, but luckily Sherlock Jr looks great on the DVD that was put out by Kino.

Buster Keaton is great! The man could convey so much emotion to us just by a look on his face. I loved the part where he gives a ring to his girl and it's tiny! She's not impressed either but then Keaton takes a magnifying glass out of his pocket so that the ring will look big to his girl...that was funny!

Most of the films brilliance isn't in humor, but in creativity. Shortly into the film Buster who's a film projectionist falls asleep and dreams he's in the film that he's been watching on the screen. That's when Sherlock Jr becomes surrealistic.....as Buster is chased, he quickly goes from the city, to the country, then to the jungle, all done seamlessly. The film is quite a technical feat. There's some crazy stunts including one where a huge amount of water pours onto poor Buster.

Besides being a talented actor, Buster Keaton was a skilled director who took great care in creating this 45 minute long movie. After 91 years, Sherlock Jr is still a treat to watch.

rating_4_5

cricket

12-22-15, 09:21 PM

Wow, I didn't realize you thought that highly of Mon Oncle.

I kept Wild Tales on my watchlist on your rec; I'll try to watch it soon.

Citizen Rules

12-22-15, 09:28 PM

I like that type of story telling they did in Mon Oncle and I liked the 50s ultra modern look of it. It would have figured high on my list in the Comedy Hof.

Watch! Wild Tales...If I know your taste by now, you would like Wild Tales. I liked it too, with the exception of that one camera shot.

Citizen Rules

12-23-15, 11:14 PM

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Stripes (1981)

Director: Ivan Reitman
Cast: Bill Murray, Harold Ramis, P.J. Soles, Sean Young, John Candy
Genre: Comedy Action
Length 106 minutes

Synopsis: Two down and out friends, (Bill Murray, Harold Ramis) decide to quit their dead end jobs and enlist in the army. The army turns out not to be as they expected but that won't stop them from having fun and doing things there way. Along the way they meet two MPs (P.J. Soles, Sean Young) who fall for the pair of misfits.

Review: Just looking at the photo of Bill Murray cracks me up! That's from the graduation scene which is one of my favorites....and there's a lot of great scenes: From mud wrestling to the stove scene, to the scene with the Russians and the scenes...this is one of those movies where each scene is a mini movie in itself.

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Bill Murray was born to play John Ringer who's uniquely odd and definitely marches to a different beat. He does things his own way, regardless of the consequences, much to the chagrin of his command Sergeant (Warren Oates). Murray's character pairs up well with his reluctant friend, straight man Harold Ramis.

What I thought was cool was seeing all these actors before they become huge. There's Sean Young right before she does Blade Runner and John Larroquette before Night Court, Judge Reinholdt before his memorable role in Fast Times at Ridgemount High....and of course it was great seeing John Candy, who's always funny even in this smaller role. Warren Oates and Joe Flaherty give outright funny performances too.

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Stripes is the kind of film that's not so much about the story, as it's about one great scene after another and it's about the characters more than the over all plot. But mostly it's about fun!

rating_4

Captain Steel

12-23-15, 11:45 PM

Sorry to do this, Rules, but your reviews always seem to bring back memories. And I'm probably repeating this story...

But Stripes is the movie I saw at the North Brunswick Drive-In theater (one of the last in NJ). My first vehicle was a pick-up truck (it was my father's) and I'd just started driving. When my gal & I went to see Stripes, I parked backwards, put down a blanket in the bed of the truck, and dropped the tailgate. We propped up our heads with some blankets, and had a nice picnic dinner while reclining and watching the movie!

Those were the days!

Citizen Rules

12-23-15, 11:49 PM

Sorry to do this, Rules, but your reviews always seem to bring back memories.Good:) if I don't have people posting I lose faith.

Great story Captain! I can almost picture it now, a happy teen couple under the stars, having a fun time. And you brought food too, that's a nice touch. Where did you hang the speaker?

I use to drive my dad's truck on dates too, but I never tried the blanket in the back part.:p

Captain Steel

12-23-15, 11:57 PM

Good:) if I don't have people posting I lose faith.

Great story Captain! I can almost picture it now, a happy teen couple under the stars, having a fun time. And you brought food too, that's a nice touch. Where did you hang the speaker?

I use to drive my dad's truck on dates too, but I never tried the blanket in the back part.:p

I think I either positioned the speaker on the edge of the truck bed or draped the cord over the side so the speaker was hanging inside the bed with us. We might have even left it on its post as you could hear the movie pretty well from all the other speakers nearby.

It was great for drive-ins, but parking backwards got some weird looks (and people walking by would always peer into the back of the truck to see what you were doing!) ;)
There might have been a rule that you can't park backward, I'm not sure. Either way, no one hassled us. I think I purposefully tried to park father away from most of the cars.

Hard to believe that experience was 34 years ago!

gbgoodies

12-24-15, 12:00 AM

Hard to believe that experience was 34 years ago!

There are people on this site who aren't even that old. :eek:

Citizen Rules

12-24-15, 12:11 AM

I remember drive-ins:) It was such a big event to go and watch a movie in your car. We went when I was a little kid in my pajamas.

I once did the classic bone-head maneuver with the speaker. I was on a date and in my pride and joy, a 1969 muscle car that I had just had painted and fixed up. I had the speaker on the door glass which was rolled down just a bit so the speaker would hang on it. The movie was over, don't ask me what it was?....and...I drove away with the speaker!...So I quickly put it in reverse, stuck the speaker back on the poll and popped it into first gear and got the hell out of there!

Dinner time, catch ya latter.:)

gbgoodies

12-24-15, 12:14 AM

I remember drive-ins:) It was such a big event to go and watch a movie in your car. We went when I was a little kid in my pajamas. I once did the classic bone-head maneuver with the speaker. I was on a date and in my pride and joy a 1969 muscle car that I had just had painted and fixed up. I had the speaker on the door glass which was rolled down just a bit so the speaker would hang on it. The movie was over, don't ask me what it was?....and...I drove away with the speaker!...I quickly put in reverse, stuck the speaker back on the poll and popped into first and got the hell out of there!

I like the newer drive-ins that use your car radio as a speaker. One theater I went to a few years ago had two different movies playing, so after the first movie was over, we just turned around, changed the radio station, and watched the other movie. :)

Citizen Rules

12-24-15, 01:48 PM

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The Miracle of Morgan's Creek (1944)
Director/Writer: Preston Sturges
Cast: Betty Hutton, Eddie Bracken, Diana Lynn, William Demarest
Genre: Social Commentary Comedy

For the average person watching this film today, it's nothing more than a zany screwball comedy...But for audiences back in 1944 this was one helluva gusty movie. It was made during WWII and deals with a serious concern of the time.

Betty Hutton is a young woman living at home with her strict father (William Demarest) and her wise beyond years, younger sister (Diana Lynn).

The local town boys have enlisted in the army and are about to be shipped off to fight in the war. Betty feels it's her duty to attend an all night dance party to help send the boys off right, it's the least she can do for them. Her father forbids her to go, so she lies and says she's going to the movies with a goofy guy who's physically unfit for the army, (Eddie Bracken). Eddie has the hots for Betty. She leaves him at the movies and takes his car to the big party.

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The next morning Betty drives up to the town's theater where Eddie has been waiting for her all night. She's drunk as a skunk and says she got married but doesn't remember to who and she has no marriage licenses either. Latter Betty finds out she's pregnant.

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For today's audiences a young pregnant woman is the stuff TV reality shows are made of, but back in the 1940's this was cutting edge stuff. Director/writer Preston Sturges gets around the Hays Code censors by having a pregnant Betty married...BUT he cleverly never shows the marriage and Betty has no proof of marriage, so it's a conceit to the audiences that she's not really married at all.

In other words she did what many young patriotic girls did during WWII, she gave her virginity to a soldier as part of the war effort. They were called Victory Girls and unwanted pregnancies were often the results. By wrapping this message in a zany comedy Preston Sturges pushed the envelope of film making.

When the movie first came out it was a huge hit and tickets sold out quickly, no doubt to the racing nature of the film. It's a film that's worth watching for both film history, for great performances by Betty Hutton, Diana Lynn and William Demarest and for a fun too.

rating_3_5++

Gideon58

12-24-15, 02:35 PM

Enjoyed reading your review of Stripes Citizen...John Ringeer is one of my favorite Bill Murray characters and though the fun doesn't last all the way to the closing credits, I think most of the film is a very funny and entertaining ride.

Gideon58

12-24-15, 02:45 PM

I like the newer drive-ins that use your car radio as a speaker. One theater I went to a few years ago had two different movies playing, so after the first movie was over, we just turned around, changed the radio station, and watched the other movie. :)
Yeah. when I was a kid, my parents put us in our pajamas very Friday night and took us to the V Drive in Vestal, New York. Two movies for the price of one and you didn't even have to get out of your car. For some reason, I was the only member of the family who stayed awake for both movies and I even remember some movies that I saw for the first time at the drive in...Marriage on the Rocks, The Unsinkable Molly Brown, The Wrecking Crew, Bandolero, The Cheyenne Social Club, and Beach Blanket Bingo are among the films that I saw for the very first time at the V drive in.

Gideon58

12-24-15, 02:49 PM

I've never seen The Miracle of Morgan's Creek but heard nothing but great things about it...I enjoyed reading your review.

Citizen Rules

12-24-15, 03:06 PM

Thanks Gideon, I really appreciate that. That was a different type of review for me. Usually I don't do a synopsis of the story but for some reason it felt right to tell the story (without spoiling the end of course.)

Citizen Rules

12-26-15, 11:50 PM

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Director: Otto Preminger
Cast: Frank Sinatra, Kim Novak, Eleanor Parker, Arnold Stag
Genre: Drama
Length: 119 minutes

An ex-junkie returns from prison and takes up hanging with the same wrong crowd that he hung with before. His nagging crippled wife and former card shark boss makes his decision to stay clean, a hard one.

The Man With The Golden Arm deserves to be watched by any serious film buff. This film and The Blue Moon both by Otto Preminger were the first films to skirt the Hays Production Code and still be released for viewing and make a good profit, thanks to the notoriety of the subject matter. Today's audiences would find a story about a drug addict passe, but to 1950's audiences this film must have been electrifying! With the success of this film, the Hays Production Code censorship grip began to fade.

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In what is still a graphic scene today, Frankie Machine (Frank Sinatra) shoots up. The scene is gritty and real.

This was a plum role for Frank Sinatra who was fresh off an Academy Award win with From Here to Eternity. Frank does his acting like his singing, no nonsense, no fluff, he gets right to it and he's excellent in this part.

Elanor Parker who's one of the best 1950's actresses, plays an eccentric, wheel chaired, neurotic woman...who's nagging drives Frankie from the home and into the arms of Kim Novak.

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What's with the whistle?...It adds to the neurotic, out of touch feel of the character.

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Reportedly both Sinatra and Otto Preminger were all business, one take, kind of guys. Kim Novak however suffered from severe nervousness and needed many takes to get one scene done. To the credit of Sinatra and Preminger they were patient with Kim...and in the end Miss Novak gives a very touching performance.

With all of the film's strong points, it does have a weak point in that the movie is staged like a play. This is most evident in the street scenes done with bright flat lighting and staged movement of people. Not surprising as Otto Preminger had his start in the theater. But for this kind of film it dilutes the grittiness of it. Still a fine film to watch.

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Veteran character actors Arnold Stang and Robert Strauss add color to the film, as does Darren McGavin (not pictured).

rating_3_5+

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gbgoodies

12-27-15, 03:26 AM

I saw The Man With the Golden Arm, but not recently, so I don't remember it very well, but as I recall, it was only okay. Overall, I think Sinatra was a better singer than he was an actor, but maybe it's worth giving The Man With the Golden Arm a rewatch.

Citizen Rules

12-27-15, 12:56 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if The Man With The Golden Arm turns up on the Top 100 1950's Countdown...at least it should as it's an important film.

cricket

12-27-15, 01:17 PM

That looks pretty good, but I usually don't like movies that look like plays.

Citizen Rules

12-27-15, 01:32 PM

Cricket it was mainly the street scenes that to me looked like a play. Actually nothing happens in the streets, I just didn't like the look of them.

seanc

12-27-15, 01:37 PM

I gotta see this one before the list. Hoping some great stuff shows up in the HOF.

Citizen Rules

12-27-15, 01:48 PM

I'm ready for the 50s HOF too. The Man With The Golden Arm was going to be my nom for the HOF, but after watching it I decided to go with another. I bet we have a bunch of great films to watch:)

SilentVamp

12-27-15, 02:01 PM

I know that the first time I ever watched "The Man With The Golden Arm" was when I was 12. I know it was around Easter time (of all times of the year!). And I remember this because I was so sick. I just remember this as being the time that I seemed to be sick beyond sick (I was sick a lot as a kid). In my memory, this was the worst flu - or whatever it was - that I ever had. And it was the worst I'd felt since I had pneumonia.

Anyway, I was so sick that I could barely get out of bed. And this was the year that I actually tolerated both "The Sound of Music" and "The Ten Commandments" (two films that didn't make me feel any better ;)). There was no cable in the bedroom. I was stuck with what was on TV.

Then there was "The Man With The Golden Arm". I started to watch it because Frank Sinatra was in it. I liked him. And I can say that my 12 year-old self was immediately drawn into it. I loved it. I liked the story. I loved the acting. And I never once started to doze off during it.

I didn't get a chance to watch it again until a couple of years later. I remembered liking it, but on second viewing, would I still? :) So, I watched it again, and I think I liked it even better the second time around. I was older (and not deathly ill this time). I could appreciate the overall film even more now.

Glad that you liked it, too.

I wouldn't be surprised if The Man With The Golden Arm turns up on the Top 100 1950's Countdown
Well, another movie that ranks fairly high on my 1950's list. Whether or not it will place in the top 25, as I said last night about "Compulsion", we'll just have to wait and see. :D

Citizen Rules

12-27-15, 02:19 PM

Ahk! you and GBG just talked me into it;)......So, I just borrowed Compulsion from my library.So far I haven't seen that many films with Orson Welles in it that I liked (besides his own films).This one sounds good.

SilentVamp

12-27-15, 02:28 PM

I honestly kind of assumed that you may have seen it because he was in it. :) I know you haven't seen all of his films, but, for some reason, that was one I thought you may have seen for sure.

I hope you like it. I think you will. It is a very good movie.

Citizen Rules

12-27-15, 02:42 PM

I've mainly focused on films directed by Orson Welles. But slowly I'm watching all of his films. BTW my new avatar is from Macbeth 1948 with Orson. I haven't seen that one either, yet.

Gideon58

12-27-15, 03:34 PM

The Man with the Golden Arm has been on my watchlist for the longest time and I still haven't gotten around to it...I LOVE Eleanor Parker and I've heard she's amazing in it.

Citizen Rules

12-27-15, 03:36 PM

I love Eleanor Parker in most everything she does. She's not well remembered today, but she should be.

Gideon58

12-27-15, 03:37 PM

Ahh, interesting film, Captain. I watched Gods and Monsters awhile ago. I didn't know that James Whales was so influential in early Hollywood, especially with early Horror films.
I absolutely LOVED Gods and Monsters...I think Ian MacKellan and Lynn Redgrave were both robbed of Oscars.

Citizen Rules

12-27-15, 10:44 PM

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The Mask (1994)

Director: Chuck Russell
Cast: Jim Carrey, Cameron Diaz, Peter Riegert
Genre: Comedy Fantasy
Length: 101 minutes

A mild mannered bank clerk, Stanley (Jim Carrey) finds an ancient mask that when Stanley puts it on, transforms him into a wild and zany, super-hero. As a bonus it gives him the courage to talk to the girl of his dreams played by Cameron Diaz.

This film is brilliant! It does exactly what it intends to do, entertain. It's a modern day take on that age old classic, Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde. This time around it's done up in comedy stylings and takes its cue from slapstick cartoons. But it's more than just laughs it does have a story in the vein of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde.

Jim Carrey was great in this, so was his dog Milo, cute dog! It never hurts to have a cute dog in a comedy. And hey Cameron Diaz is no pooch either. This was her first major film and she's looking good.
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Jim Carrey was at his comedic height here and the wildly over the top Mask character gave Carrey a chance to showcase his physical style of comedy, the man has a rubber face! But it's Jim Carrey the everyday nice guy that makes this film work. That's who we care about the guy without the mask. Most of us can relate to his likable, but none too confident character. He's the underdog and we root for him.

What more could you want from a comedy? The Mask is eye popping fun, with great characters and a story line that works well...and some catchy show tunes to boot. Cuban Pete never sounded better!

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The Mask was made back in 1994 and for a film from that time it's special effects still look amazing today. This is just a fun for sillyness sakes type movie, enjoy it with popcorn!

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Citizen Rules

12-27-15, 11:07 PM

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Dazed and Confused (1993)
Director: Richard Linklater
Writer: Richard Linklater
Cast: Jason London, Wiley Wiggins, Matthew McConaughey
Genre: Comedy Drama

The far out adventures of junior and high school students on the last day of school in May 1976. Ablaze a cloud of smoke and beer drenched shirts these kids are going to make their last school day one to remember!

Dazed and Confused is an earlier work by a well respected writer/director Richard Linklater (Boyhood, Before Sunset)

I loved all of the great 1970s rock music and all the cool cars in this movie. There's lots of cool cars in this film. The four main characters in the photo above were all interesting. I would've liked to known more about where they came from and where they were going. But this is a free-form Linklater film with the emphasis on the visual action. There's not much focus on a traditional story line or character development. We simply observe these kids as they go about celebrating the end of the school year.

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This film features some big name stars early in their careers:
Matthew Mcconaughey, Adam Goldberg, Milla Jovovich and Ben Affleck. Keep your eyes peeled when watching this one.

I'm not sure if anybodies school days was ever this riotous. Sure it's the late 1970s but there's a lot of stuff happening, from hazing of the jr high students who are coming to the high school in the following year, to parties and wild times and fast cars. But then again this is a comedy and stuff like this did happen, Relax and groove on.

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Captain Steel

12-28-15, 12:18 AM

Dazed and Confused was one of those movies I really didn't care for when I first saw it. But it kind of grew on me with subsequent viewings.
The time period in the movie would have been perfect for my older brothers to relate to, but I was in grammar school in the mid 70's and just starting to get into comic books. Still it reminds me of a lot of what I remember from observing my brothers' lives at the time.

Camo

12-28-15, 12:34 AM

Dazed and Confused is my favourite Linklater film just slightly ahead of Before Midnight. Glad to see you liked it Citizen, i would've guessed you'd give it at least a popcorn box less. Then again i remember you really like American Grafitti so i could see why you enjoy the music and cars :)

edarsenal

12-28-15, 12:41 PM

Haven't seen either Miracle or Golden Arm and very curious to see them now

Mask is a favorite of mine and you nailed what makes this a fun movie to see.

Surprisingly I never saw Dazed and Confused even though that described my high school daze beautifully. In '76 I was in 6th grade and had an older brother who graduated that year. We lived directly across from school - literally, I'd walk down by driveway, across the street and up the sidewalk to the front doors and was late EVERY day - any ole poop, there were SO MANY guys who smoked their tires that year you could walk 2/3 of the block staying on skid marks the entire time.
For me and another older brother who graduated in '80, I was '82, it was lawn jobs. Tore the HELL out of the front lawn of our school.

And speaking of Drive Ins that was a wonderful place for growing up and being a teen ager. I remember that the refreshment stand was about mid point and everyone in front of it, closer to the screen, were families and behind, and to the back wall, were teenagers and dates.
I drove a '76 pontiac station wagon as a first car and you could fit a single mattress in the back with the seats down. . .
My first memories of movies were at Drive Ins. The first one was Romeo and Juliet and the second was Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid as a wee, itty bitty kid.
There were always two movies and the first movie would be shown a second time for late nighters. They even had heaters the same size as the speakers that we'd use during the winter.

honeykid

12-28-15, 12:54 PM

I love Dazed & Confused, but I'll have Slacker and Before Sunrise before it.

Cameron never looked better than she did in The Mask.

cricket

12-28-15, 01:11 PM

I love Dazed & Confused, but I'll have Slacker and Before Sunrise before it.

Cameron never looked better than she did in The Mask.

Yes

Citizen Rules

12-28-15, 01:25 PM

Dazed and Confused...I was in grammar school in the mid 70's and just starting to get into comic books. Still it reminds me of a lot of what I remember from observing my brothers' lives at the time. I was just about the same age as the youngest character in the film, the guy on the right who was going from Jr high to High school. I swear had this silk print button up shirt that looked just like the one in the photo. My hair was long too by the time I graduated.

Dazed and Confused is my favourite Linklater film just slightly ahead of Before Midnight. Glad to see you liked it Citizen, i would've guessed you'd give it at least a popcorn box less. Then again i remember you really like American Grafitti so i could see why you enjoy the music and cars :) It's not really the cars or the music that I like about American Grafitti and Dazed & Confused..it's that those films remind me of my youth. I had a muscle car when I was in school and went cruizing all the time and it was pretty wild too, jammed packed road with racing down the back side of town and lots of girls, lots of cool cars. My first party in high school was a kegger in the woods, very much like the scene in Dazed & Confused.

...In '76 I was in 6th grade and had an older brother who graduated that year. We lived directly across from school - literally, I'd walk down by driveway, across the street and up the sidewalk to the front doors and was late EVERY day - any ole poop, there were SO MANY guys who smoked their tires that year you could walk 2/3 of the block staying on skid marks the entire time.
For me and another older brother who graduated in '80, I was '82, it was lawn jobs. Tore the HELL out of the front lawn of our school.
Ha! I 'burned out' 'leaving my mark' as we called it that my tires became bald, so bald that it blew out on the freeway. Which is not at good thing to have happen.

Citizen Rules

12-28-15, 05:17 PM

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The Big Lebowski (1998)
Directors/Writers: Coen Brothers
Cast: Jeff Bridges, John Goodman, Julianne Moore,. Steve Buscimi
Genre: Comedy
Length: 117 minutes

This is one of those films that have a buzz around it. It's a quirky, anti-hero, anti-establishment cult film, the type of film I usually love.

But I found The Big Lebowski to be a disappointment. I did like the character of the Dude and Jeff Bridges did a good job with what he had to work with. I even liked the idea of the film too, but the dialogue felt artificial and lazy. There's a lot of dialogue too. The dialogue doesn't gives us insight into the characters or move the story along. I was left with the feeling that the characters were one dimensional and I wanted them to be more.

It's like the Coen Brothers had one idea only...'lets get a stoner surfer dude...dress him in a house coat, shorts, dark sun glasses and put a drink in his hand...then we'll hire Sam Elliot to stare into the camera and deliver a manufactured catch phrase that the audience will eat up and repeat....The Dude Abides, The Dude Abides'...that felt like a cheap manipulation.

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Steve Buscemi would have been interesting had he been given something to do, he's wasted in this film. Julianne Moore and Philip Seymour Hoffman are bright spots.

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John Goodman tore up the screen with his mega loud performance, drowning out the other actors,...damn he was annoying! And I usually like him in movies too.

With a tighter script this film could have had a 'wow' factor to it and been something special. Think about how Tarantino has his characters talking about nothing important and yet the dialogue flows like butter...and in what Tarantino's characters say, they give us insight into their lives and that puts flesh on their bones. I wish the Coens would have invested more effort in fleshing out their script.

rating_2_5

Citizen Rules

12-28-15, 08:31 PM

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Life of Brian (1979)

Director: Terry Jones
Writers: Monty Python troupe
Cast: Graham Chapman, John Cleese, Michael Palin, Eric Idle, Terry Jones
Genre: Historical Spoof Comedy
Length: 94 minutes

Brian of Nazareth is born on the same day as Jesus. He spends his life being mistaken for a messiah. Through accident he joins a political resistances movement to drive the Romans out of Judea. When he bumbles that, he ends up gathering a religious following.

If you love ancient history...and who doesn't?...Life of Brian nails it! The Monty Python comedy troupe travels back in time to intelligently spoof the life of a mistaken messiah, Brian.

One of the highlights of the film is the amazing on location sets. Most of the exteriors were shot in Tunisia. The gladiator fight scene was shot in the ancient ruins of the Amphitheater in Carthage...how cool is that! It looks great in the movie, but this photo doesn't do the scene justice.

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And the 'fortress' photo at very top is the ancient Ribat Monastir in Tunisia built around the Byzantine era. Other desert scenes were filmed out in the sun drenched lands of Tunisia.

The film looks great with all these historical sites. But it's the cutting edge satire that takes a critical look at a contemporary of Jesus, a man named Brian. Brian's not to bright and has a knack of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I thought it was clever how they combined actual history from occupied Judea, along with Biblical narrative to tell the tale of Brian.

During the Life of Brian I laughed out loud, which is also a good thing. The film is funny-witty, not funny slap stick, though the Monty Python troupe can be quite silly in a fun way.

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Some people have the mistaken idea that this film mocks Jesus, it doesn't. It's respectful of the subject matter while being darn funny. This is my favorite of all the Monty Python movies.

rating_4_5

Sexy Celebrity

12-29-15, 02:45 AM

But I found The Big Lebowski to be a disappointment.

You just elevated yourself to one of the best people on this forum in my eyes.

Captain Steel

12-29-15, 02:52 AM

Sexy Celebrity

12-29-15, 03:08 AM

You just elevated yourself to one of the best people on this forum in my eyes.

Funny thing is I saw the Big Lebowski in the theater when it first came out. I remember that the friend I saw it with seemed to really like it, but I didn't think much of it and pretty much forgot about it by the next day.

Years later I hear all these people talking about it like it's this epic cult film. I couldn't help but think, "what did I miss? I don't even remember it." All I could remember was that there was something in it about bowling and Jeff Bridges floating.

Now, this isn't a comment on the Coen's because I also saw Fargo in the theater when that came out and really liked it - I can still remember almost the whole movie to this day.
There are Coen movies that I like. But I really don't get Big Lebowski.

The only thing I liked somewhat was Walter -- John Goodman's character. But I like John Goodman in just about anything. The rest of it... I don't get. It's not funny. It's not interesting. I can't stand the other characters. It's boring. It's gotta be the worst Coen thing I know. I haven't seen Fargo. It never really intrigued me -- so I'd bet I wouldn't like it -- but can't say for sure.

Captain Steel

12-29-15, 03:23 AM

Well, Fargo is now considered a classic of sorts (maybe a quirky classic).
Fargo is all about the characters, but it's also a crime thriller and a comedy (kind of). There's pretty much nothing I can say about it to make it sound interesting, but it's very entertaining. It's got a pregnant lady police chief who's almost Columbo-like in her doggedness, a great cast and a sometimes hilarious glimpse at North Dakota culture (before this film, I didn't know North Dakota had a culture!) ;)

It still doesn't sound interesting, I know ... but somebody gets put through a wood chipper! :D

mark f

12-29-15, 03:28 AM

Fargo takes place in Minnesota. :)

Captain Steel

12-29-15, 03:39 AM

Fargo takes place in Minnesota. :)

Okay. I guess that's the setting where the bulk of the story takes place?
But according to Wiki, the town of "Fargo" is in North Dakota.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fargo_(film)

Sexy Celebrity

12-29-15, 04:10 AM

I'll have to give that a watch just to find out if I'll like it.

Citizen Rules

12-29-15, 12:55 PM

I'll have to watch Fargo too, one of these days.

edarsenal

12-29-15, 02:50 PM

great write ups on Lebowski & Life of Brian. Love 'em both

Citizen Rules

12-29-15, 09:52 PM

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Sunset Blvd. (1950)
Director: Billy Wilder
Writers: Charles Brackett, Billy Wilder
Cast: William Holden, Gloria Swanson, Erich von Stroheim
Genre: Film Noir, Drama Satire

A dead body floating face down in a swimming pool. That's how the movie starts.
Joe Gillis is dead, but why?

A second rate Hollywood script writer, Joe Gillis (Bill Holden), hides out in a run down mansion. He's on the lamb from some outstanding bills he owes. He hides his car in the mansion's garage so it won't be repossessed....BIG mistake for Joe!

In that big mansion is where he meets an aging silent film star, Norma Desmond (Gloria Swanson). Norma Desmond was once a big star in silent pictures, but her career ended with the coming of sound films. Norma is eccentric, even delusional. She's hold up in her prison like mansion with her faded dreams.

Norma is in complete denial and believe her fans still love her, they don't. She hires Joe Gillis after he brags about how good of a writer he is. She pays him handsomely to write her big come back movie that she believes will return her to stardom. But Gillis is just using Norma's love and her money for his own greedy ends....And Norma is not someone to take rejection lightly!

Norma Desmond is a caricature of a silent screen actress. Billy Wilder's film is a nod to the 'over the top' films that were made in the silent era. Gloria Swanson plays that role to the hilt. She's a real talent and long after her own silent movie career ended, she proves she still has star power.

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Gloria Swanson really gets into character with contorted facial and hand postures. And that crazy cigarette ring suits her to a tee.

Gloria attacks her role with an almost vampire look in her eyes. She's gaudy with an ego to match..."I am big! It's the pictures that got small." That famous line from the movie says it all.

Gloria Swanson was nominated by the Academy Awards for Best Actress in a Leading Role. Over all this film had a whopping 11 Oscar nominations and won 3 Oscars.

Bill Holden also picked up a nomination for Best Actor in a Leading Role. Bill Holden is perfect as the likeable but somewhat sleazy screen writer, who knows better but can't help using Norma Desmond for her money. He's broke and she's loaded, and that spells trouble.

One of the most memorable scenes (and there's a lot of them) was the New Years Eve Party. Expecting a big lavish party with many guest, Joe Gillis is stunned to find out the party is only for him and Norma. This scene really speaks to the loneliness and isolation of Norma's life.

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Sunset Boulevard is one helluva movie!

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cricket

12-29-15, 09:58 PM

I watched Sunset Blvd with my wife. She didn't care for it, and that may be the reason I didn't think much of it. I'm going to watch it again for the 50's list, by myself.

Citizen Rules

12-29-15, 10:02 PM

Cricket, Sunset Blvd was a nomination in the Film Noir Hof,. it did really well too.

What didn't your wife like about the film?

I didn't like it so much the first time either as I thought it wasn't believable but then I realized it wasn't trying to be a 100% believable.... then I could see how it succeeds by caricaturization.

Citizen Rules

12-29-15, 10:05 PM

Thanks HK:)

cricket

12-29-15, 10:11 PM

I don't know what she didn't like about it, she just lost interest probably about a half hour in. She's not much of a movie buff, so I usually watch them myself. I pick out 1 or 2 a week for her to watch with me, and that was one of them. Her not caring for it may have taken me out of it by itself, so I'm definitely watching it again.

Citizen Rules

12-29-15, 10:16 PM

Well I hope you enjoy it a second time around:) I watch all these movies with my wife, we usually agree but not always of course. I think she will like your nom for the 50s Hof. She liked Twenty Four Eyes.

Citizen Rules

12-30-15, 02:37 PM

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All That Jazz (1979)
Director: Bob Fosse
Writers: Robert Alan Aurthur, Bob Fosse
Stars: Roy Scheider, Jessica Lange, Leland Palmer
Genre: Surreal Drama, Musical

Legendary director & choreographer Bob Fosse tells his own life story in the entertainment business. We're treated to the details of his rather sorted life, as played by fictional character Joe Gideon (Roy Scheider). Joe Gideon is Bob Fosse and he's a lout...a womanizing, pill popping, boozing, egotistical talent and one helluva of a dancer & choreographer. Through surreal images and imaginative dance scenes we learn of the toll that Bob Fosse's life style takes on his health.

All That Jazz is quite different in it's style and the dance numbers were amazing. The story premise of a hard drinking-pill popping-womanizing producer who sees his life (or what it could have been) flash before his eyes is an intriguing concept.

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The inter-cutting of the 'woman in white' scenes (played by Jessica Lange) without any explanation at first as to what was going on made for an ecliptic montage of disembodied scenes, until...I figured out that was him in the some type of afterlife looking back at his own life.

Latter in the film, Joe Gideon is watching a review of his latest movie and the movie reviewer, Leslie Perry says

How do I rate this? On the first viewing it's confusing but with a second viewing my opinion went way up! As I knew what to expect and so could set back, relax and enjoy the surreal images and amazing Bob Fosse dance numbers.

rating_4

Captain Steel

12-30-15, 09:57 PM

I never saw All That Jazz - but it does bring back another memory - back in high school, if anyone found out someone went to see All That Jazz (male students specifically) then they'd really want to watch their back, only use the private bathroom in the nurses office, stay away from the boys locker room, and not get caught in the hallway alone or in-between classes for pretty much the rest of the school year. ;)

Seriously, bullies would use anything as an excuse to beat on you. I remember kids getting beat up because a bully overheard them say they went to see E.T.!

Citizen Rules

12-30-15, 10:12 PM

I don't doubt that at all. Luck for me I didn't see many movies when I was in school.

Citizen Rules

12-30-15, 11:26 PM

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Tea with Mussolini (1999)
Director: Franco Zeffirelli
Writers:John Mortimer, Franco Zeffirelli(autobiography)
Cast: Maggie Smith, Judi Dench, Joan Plowright, Cher, Lily Tomlin,
Genre: Drama, Light Comedy
Length: 117 minutes

In 1935 in Florence Italy, a group of well-to-do elderly British women, conduct their life around things that they feel is important...art, civility and tea. They've made Florence their home and relish in the art of the ancient city. The Italians have nick named this group the Scorpioni...and they are stubborn. Along comes two boisterous Americans...Elsa a rich, flashy Broadway performer (played by Cher) and a no nonsense lesbian archeologist (played by Lily Tomlin.)
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When WWII looms on the horizon their position in the community is threatened by Mussolini's 'black shirts'. Despite being told to leave the country, as they are now enemies of the state, the women stubbornly refuse. Instead they take their complaints to Mussolini himself, putting trust in the dictator to keep his word that they will be safe in Italy.

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I liked this film. It wasn't overly serious, in fact sometimes it had a light wit about it. At times it did feel more like a tense drama but when Cher and especially Lily Tomlin were in the scenes it took on a light feel. Which isn't bad as it makes the film very watchable.

I enjoyed the British cast of veteran actors (Maggie Smith, Judi Dench, Joan Plowright) and Cher was good in this too. This is based on an actual event and the screen writer of this movie was actually part of this story. I won't tell you which character he was, you'll just have to watch the movie to find out.

Tea with Mussolini,Is a nice film, with nice settings and was a joint venture between British and Italian film makers. It offers a little of something for everyone.

rating_3_5

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Citizen Rules

01-01-16, 09:13 PM

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The Hustler (1961)
Director: Robert Rossen
Cast: Paul Newman, Jackie Gleason, Piper Laurie, George C. Scott
Genre: Drama
Length: 134 minutes

Fast Eddie (Paul Newman) is a two-bit pool hustler who's a real wiz at the game but his self destructive narcissistic streak keeps him from being the champ. He takes on the legendary "Minnesota Fats" in an all night, high stakes pool game. A game which takes more than shooting skills to win. Fast Eddie also meets Sarah (Piper Laura) setting alone in a train station. Laure is a girl with low self esteem and a lame leg, she uses sex as an escape. The two strike up a relationship based on booze and self destructive behaviors.

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The Hustler is like a classic Greek tragedy where the protagonist rise to glory only to be destroyed by their own character flaws.
It's a study of two very dysfunctional people, with pool as the driving force that causes their flaws to come into play.

Fast Eddie is not likeable, he's not suppose to be. He has an inflated sense of own importance, a deep need for admiration and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of ultra confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism.

Sarah is a manic depressive, she's more sad than likable. Drowning her self pity in alcohol and in sex with strangers. She's the enabler that keeps Fast Eddie going. She makes the mistake of tying herself to Eddie, as if he was an anchor that would keep her stable. But Eddie has no empathy for her, only his need to be important at any cost. The Hustler shows us a very real and very dysfunctional relationship.

Jackie Gleason is Minnesota Fats, he owns the role. Gleason was known for doing outlandish physical comedy on The Honeymooners. Here he keeps his body movements to a minimum and with just a slight nod of his head or a raised eyebrow he can convey more than most actors can do with their whole bodies.

Gerorge C. Scott is the cold, conniving financier of the illicit pool games. He's one of those truly slimy bad guys you love to hate. He's good at being bad and being believable at it.

The director and production team put a lot of effort into the film. In the pool scenes many of the camera angles were done low, looking up at the players. A few shots were done from a high angle, like is done in televised pool tournaments. Both added a tension to the pool scenes. Maybe most impressive is that all those pool halls are real! They actually shot in the pool halls in New York. This gave the film a grimy reality that wouldn't have been there if mainly shot in a studio.

rating_5

MovieMeditation

01-01-16, 09:42 PM

+rep for a very well-written and enlightening review, Citizen. I don't personally like the film, but you almost makes me like it just by reading your description of it. Good job.

I see and understand all of what you love about this film, but I just didn't find it interesting or deep enough. But there is no doubt that the elements are there and you seem to appreciate them and love them more than myself. Whatever the case might be, the important thing is that you watched a movie you loved and made a great review. Thumbs up for a good one! :up:

gbgoodies

01-01-16, 09:53 PM

I liked The Hustler, but not quite as much as you did.

Have you seen The Color of Money (1986)?

Citizen Rules

01-01-16, 10:40 PM

Thanks MM! I appreciate that coming from a fellow reviewer. Let me ask you, (or anyone who wants to answer) what do you like better in a review: a review that covers mostly the synopsis?...or a review that focuses on production/cinematography/lighting etc.

Have you seen The Color of Money (1986)? I did and I didn't really like it compared to The Hustler...but it's been years so I should give that film another chance.

gbgoodies

01-01-16, 10:49 PM

Have you seen The Color of Money (1986)?

I did and I didn't really like it compared to The Hustler...but it's been years so I should give that film another chance.

I asked because after I watched The Hustler, I liked it enough that it made me want to watch The Color of Money, so I was curious if you felt the same way, but if you've already seen it, then you probably didn't.

But I agree that The Hustler is a better movie than The Color of Money.

Citizen Rules

01-01-16, 10:57 PM

OK, this is from memory (and my memory sucks BTW)...I though the Color of Money was a fun entertainment film but not hard hitting like The Hustler. You know I almost nominated a Piper Laurie film for the 50s Hof.

Captain Steel

01-01-16, 10:59 PM

Citizen Rules

01-01-16, 11:05 PM

That's helpful Captain. I'm often not sure of what to mention or not mention in a review?

gbgoodies

01-01-16, 11:06 PM

Good question, Rules. I usually read reviews of movies I've already seen. If I read a review of a movie I haven't seen, it's because I want to find out if it's worth investing the time to see it. Either way, I don't really like reviews that give you a synopsis of the story because (a.) if I've seen it then I already know the details or (b.) if I'm looking to see if it's worth watching, then I don't want all the details & plot points revealed beforehand.

I usually do this on IMDB and it gets boring going through review after review that tells you what happened in the movie, when what you're looking for is what people thought of the movie.

I agree. I like reviews that talk about why someone liked or disliked a movie. If I don't already know the plot of the movie, I can easily look it up. I want to know whether or not you liked the movie, and why.

Captain Steel

01-01-16, 11:14 PM

I think people who read reviews are looking for WHY the reviewer did or didn't like the film. It's fine if some scenes or sequences are cited to support the opinion. But I don't think many people really want to read a detailed synopsis of a movie (unless they're maybe analyzing it together after having seen it and want to go through it scene by scene).

Some people might read a review to determine if the film contains subjects that will interest them, so then telling a bit what the film is about could be helpful - but even then, I don't think people want a book-report style summary that outlines the whole story.

That's why I don't get some of the reviews on IMDB where they write these long summaries that sound more like a "treatment" you'd give to a producer to provide an overview of what the entire film is about rather than a review. If I saw the film, then I know what happens. If I didn't see it, then I don't want to know what happens, I just want to know if it's got enough elements to catch my interest & is good enough to hold my interest.

MovieMeditation

01-02-16, 02:13 PM

Thanks MM! I appreciate that coming from a fellow reviewer. Let me ask you, (or anyone who wants to answer) what do you like better in a review: a review that covers mostly the synopsis?...or a review that focuses on production/cinematography/lighting etc
Summing up what the film is about shouldn't take up too much of a review in my opinion. Most people read reviews when they have watched the film or at least know about it. So yeah, those kind of reviews where the summary of the plot takes up half (or more) of the overall review is a no-go.

Your review should focus on your opinion and/or interpretation of the story, characters, themes and so on. You can mention production and all the technical stuff, but it's not always that important. If you review a Malick film it would probably be ideal to spend some time with the cinematography and the visual storytelling, while a Dardenne feature would be all about the clear cut story and characters.

Talking about the story and giving you opinion on that is always important and sometimes there's a few focal points that depends on what kind of movie it is. Not all movies yell for the same kind of review. I have done many different reviews myself and it really does depend on a lot of things. I remember my Sicario review was a lot about the mood atmosphere and gritty style and approach, which was clearly what the director wanted put forward. Then there was stuff like my Le Samouraï review, which I kind of wrote about from opening until end, describing the characters journey and how the plot evolved.

So yeah, there can be a lot to it, but you can never go wrong with a review that just cover the plot and characters, as long as you make sure you don't make it a plot synopsis but an actual review of these elements.

Citizen Rules

01-02-16, 11:53 PM

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Summer Rental (1985)
Director: Carl Reiner
Cast: John Candy, Karen Austin, Richard Crenna, Rip Torn
Genre: Comedy
Length: 87 minutes

Just for fun! An early John Candy comedy by Carl Reiner, that bears a striking resemblances to Vacation (1983)... same stressed out type of dad, who goes on a vacation with the kids, even the wives look similar. But is this one funny? Yes!...Unlike some of John Candy's other films, here he plays a normal family guy. He's an airline traffic controller who get's stressed out after 13 years on the job and is sent on a vacation to Florida by his boss. Of course he takes the wife and kids.

What I like about this was that the gags/jokes were mostly believable and were the kind of crazy stuff that can actually happen on a vacation. And poor John Candy, everything that can happen to him does!
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First he gets seriously sun burned and tells his kids, 'it's good I wanted some color.' Then a late night knock at the door starts him down the road to one bad vacation! I thought the above scene was really funny how Candy handled the surprise visit.

The main thing to know is Candy has bad luck and gets on the bad side of the town's millionaire and champion yacht sailor, played to the hilt by Richard Crenna.

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That's not Richard Crenna...That's Karen Austin who plays the wife.

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The infamous lobster restaurant scene. Who hasn't waited for hours to get a table, just to watch someone else cut the line and go ahead of you, what would you do?

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Veteran actor Rip Torn plays a crusty but good hearted owner of a pirate theme restaurant, he befriends Candy and teaches him the art of sailing.

Summer Rental is a PG rated film and is family safe. The last third of the film becomes more of a family Disney movie with the entire family trying to win the yacht race, it's cute. So if you got kids, this could be a great film to introduce them to the legendary John Candy.

rating_3_5

Captain Steel

01-03-16, 03:09 AM

My favorite bits - (SPOILERS)

Being in the wrong rental house when the owners come home.
Several scenes with the family dog.
John Candy looking like a Kabuki dancer due to his sunburn, Noxzema and a Japanese robe!
The restaurant scene.
The real rental house (with the people walking by) - I swear I lived that as a kid!
My favorite... Scully's "catch of the day."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5S5QZ5G1NQ

Citizen Rules

01-03-16, 01:35 PM

John Candy looking like a Kabuki dancer due to his sunburn, Noxzema and a Japanese robe!Ha! I hadn't thought of that, but yuppers he does look like a Kabuki dancer...good call.

I guess Summer Rental isnt too popular with MoFos, by the number of reps it got...1:( Anyway you John Candy fans stayed tuned for more Candy magic:D

Citizen Rules

01-03-16, 10:32 PM

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28 Days Later (2002)
Director: Danny Boyle
Cast: Cillian Murphy, Naomie Harris, Christopher Eccleston
Genre: Sci-Fi Horror

Twenty eight days after a deadly virus spreads throughout the UK, a small number of survivors try to find safety from the marauding plaque victims. The plaque victims have become like ravenous zombies attacking healthy people with a deadly fury, which then infects the poor victims.

I found 28 Days Later to be hit or miss with me. I hated the opening scene of the Chimpanzees in the research lab. It was unnecessarily gruesome and graphic. Seeing animals suffer in a movie is a huge dislike for me, even if they're CG created.

I also could have done without seeing Cillian Murphy naked, luckily my remote has a fast forward!

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But when we're shown Cillian wondering around a seemingly empty London street, then, I started really getting into the film. I was reminded at that point of a classic, The Omega Man (1971). My enthusiasm was short lived however when the zombie attack scenes were done with 'shaky camera' and 'reduced frame rate' and coupled with an ultra closeup done with a digital zoom in post production, it just about gave me a headache as it was so frantic.

That 3 way effect technique is used a lot for fight sequences these days, I don't care for it. But still I was liking the movie until they drove a taxi cab over a mountain of debris that must have been 8 feet high! Oh come on! No way is that going to happen!

When a movie breaks it's own rules of reality it loses believability and at that point it became less serious...albeit, still a fun, action sci fi horror flick.

If you want a fun time with zombies, take a look at 28 Days Latter.

rating_3

Citizen Rules

01-03-16, 11:57 PM

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The Fly (1986)
Director: David Cronenberg
Cast: Jeff Goldblum, Geena Davis, John Getz
Genre: Sci Fi Horror, Romance

A brilliant but reclusive scientist (Jeff Goldblum) discovers the means of tele-transportation. His science break through will change the world. He convinces a woman journalist (Geena Davis) to document his experiment. As a romance ensues between the two, he tries the experiment on himself. But unknown to him a fly has enter the chamber too, their DNA is combined transforming him into a man/fly hybrid.

I used that photo, as to me that's what the film is about...it's about the trust and love that grew between a reclusive, lonely scientist and the woman reporter who at first tricks him to get the story of the century, but then falls in love with him. Most everyone will focus on the horror elements of The Fly, but it's so much more than just gore, this is a love story.

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From the moment the film starts, it pulled me into the story. It felt real to me...the people (Jeff Goldblum and Geena Davis) seemed real and they had real chemistry together. In real life they were a romantic couple so the onscreen chemistry is not surprising.

The film stays tightly focused on those two individuals and in that way feels very intimate. By introducing a third character, a love triangle is formed, with jealousy at it's center. That love triangle then drives the story, as each character's emotional reaction creates events that furthers the story along. It's brilliantly done and the best film I've seen from David Cronenberg.

With all of its sci fi horror and special effects, which for the early 1980s were amazing and still look good today, it's the humanity that shines through this wonderful film.

rating_4_5

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honeykid

01-04-16, 10:12 AM

I'm with you, The Fly is a love story. A gory horrid one, but it's that relationship which makes the film as good as it is. Otherwise it'd be pretty boring.

Omnizoa

01-04-16, 11:22 AM

The Fly (1986)
Director: David Cronenberg
Cast: Jeff Goldblum, Geena Davis,

O_O I didn't even realize this existed.

I always thought people were talking about the 50s movie.

honeykid

01-04-16, 11:26 AM

Then you, sir/madam, have a pretty good film to get seen. :yup:

Omnizoa

01-04-16, 11:29 AM

Okay. I guess that's the setting where the bulk of the story takes place?
But according to Wiki, the town of "Fargo" is in North Dakota.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fargo_(film)
It's kind of misleading. Fargo (the movie) is largely associated with Minnesota for it's portrayal of Minnesotan stereotypes.

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*EDIT: The "Minnesota Accent" used in the movie is really strange to me since I've literally never heard anyone from Minnesota ever speak like that unless they were specifically imitating Fargo.

Omnizoa

01-04-16, 11:29 AM

Then you, sir/madam, have a pretty good film to get seen. :yup:
It's on my list now.

MovieMeditation

01-04-16, 12:04 PM

The Fly is amazing. I gave it the same score in my review.

Citizen Rules

01-04-16, 02:56 PM

I really like both Fly versions...I haven't seen the B-budget sequels to them, I might give them a look just for a fun diversion.

edarsenal

01-05-16, 12:22 PM

some really fun/great movies. HUGE fan of The Hustler and Sunset Blvd is one I FINALLY seen in its entirety last year - VERY good.
Remember seeing Summer Rental decades ago when it came out while i firmly agree about The Fly, Goldblum has become one of those actors that bug me so a rewatch of a good movie won't be too enjoyable I fear

Citizen Rules

01-05-16, 12:36 PM

Citizen Rules

01-05-16, 01:41 PM

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Only the Lonely (1991)

Director/ Writer: Chris Columbus
Stars: John Candy, Maureen O'Hara, Ally Sheedy
Genre: Romance Comedy Drama
Length: 104 minutes

A lonely Chicago cop (John Candy) pursues a relationship with a shy, introverted girl (Ally Sheedy) against the wishes of his overbearing Irish mother, (Maureen O'Hara).

I mostly liked this film, which has many similarities to the 1955 film Marty. I wish the Irish mother had not been such a stereo type and had been less nasty. But it was good to see Maureen O'Hara back on the big screen after a 20 year retirement. Maureen who's career stretches back to 1938, was excellent in this.

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Veteran actors Maureen O'Hara and Anthony Quinn have a love-hate relationship as a subplot.

I liked Ally Sheedy as the shy, introverted girl who couldn't look anyone in the eye and hid away from the world. She looked the part and that's the type of character she's good at playing too. But after the first scenes, the film forgets about all that and the next time we see her she's been babe-afied and lost all of her introverted shyness. Sure she looks good, but the film losses the whole interesting aspect of someone who hides away from the world.

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A promo photo. One of the highlights of the film is the real world shooting in a old suburb of Chicago. This really adds to the films look.

Of course this is John Candy's film. And unlike many of his other films, he plays it straight here. This is more of a drama than a comedy. Maureen O'Hara was unsure about her return to film, until she meet costar John Candy...she took an instant liking to him and signed on the spot. She told John that he reminded her of another great dramatic-comedic actor, Charles Laughton and that "underneath the clown character had existed a powerful, complicated actor."

Maureen told Candy to trust in himself as an actor and in his ability to act dramatically, here he takes her advice.

If the script had been tighter with more character development and some of the problems ironed out, this would rate higher, still it's a good one to watch.

rating_3

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Citizen Rules

01-05-16, 02:16 PM

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The Host (2006) Gwoemul (original title)
Director/Writer: Joon Ho Bong
Writers:
Cast: Kang-ho Song, Hie-bong Byeon, Hae-il Park
Genre: Action, Drama, Horror

After toxic chemicals are poured into Seoul's Han River a mutated monster emerges and begins attacking people. When a small girl is taken alive by the creature, her family does what it can to rescue her before it's too late.

I liked this one. It wasn't what I expected...I expected a 2 hour long movie with people being bit in half by a giant creature. Instead it had a lighter touch and focused more on a slightly dysfunctional but very likable Korean family. The film makers could have left the creature out of the film and I would have still liked the characters and the way the family interacted, the were interesting! It was nice seeing scenes inside Korea too.

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The creature itself was pretty cool looking...I liked the way it moved on land, it couldn't walk well and would occasionally fall on it's belly. Nicely done CG.

The film itself had a very high quality look to it. Very cinematic with rich colors and lots of rain. You can tell it was well made. I watched the English dubbed version, which matched up pretty well. Though I would have liked the English voice actors to have a Korean accent.

It took me awhile to realize the film makers intended this to have light comic situations. What made that light comedy work is that it came out of the way people naturally react and was not slapstick.

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Think of The Host as a Godzilla done up Korean style, with an ecliptic but realistic family added in. This is fun Sci-Fi Horror.

rating_3_5

Omnizoa

01-05-16, 02:26 PM

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The Host (2006) Gwoemul (original title)

That scene is one of the best sustained action shots I can recall seeing.

Citizen Rules

01-05-16, 02:28 PM

Cool someone who's seen it. What did you think of The Host?

Omnizoa

01-05-16, 03:44 PM

Cool someone who's seen it. What did you think of The Host?
It was okay. Definitely not a gory monster movie like you mentioned. Felt kind of like Cloverfield more than Godzilla.

The family didn't really leave any impact no me.

Did you say you wanted the English dub to be in a Korean accent?

Citizen Rules

01-05-16, 03:56 PM

I did say that, it was odd that the Korean family had no accent. Reminded me of a movie I watched last night, they were all French but sounded very British.

Omnizoa

01-05-16, 11:03 PM

I did say that, it was odd that the Korean family had no accent. Reminded me of a movie I watched last night, they were all French but sounded very British.
That's pretty common since localization generally takes place in the country the movie's being localized in.

I imagine it would be quite difficult to be in charge of dubbing over films, yet have to maintain a diverse enough roster of voice actors who can consistently pull off the accent of the country the film originates from.

The simplest alternative would be to rely on native English speakers from Korea who might sound unnatural to us.

Personally, I think overdubbing in live-action foreign films can be distracting. I've seen it work, but I've also seen Jackie Chan overdubbed and that's REALLY jarring if you happen to know what he actually sounds like.

Pan's Labyrinth was subtitled, and I still thought that was a fine movie.

Citizen Rules

01-05-16, 11:51 PM

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Cube (1997)
Director: Vincenzo Natali
Cast: Nicole de Boer, Maurice Dean Wint, David Hewlett
Genre: Sci Fi, Thriler
Length 90 minutes

Seven complete strangers wake up trapped inside a cube like maze. Each of the seven people have vastly different back grounds and skills. As they try to escape the cube prison they find that some of the individual cubes have a death device in them. Which makes escaping very dangerous!

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Cube is a very interesting movie. I liked the concept of the giant cube maze who's design is a mystery to the unfortunate people trapped there. Are they trapped by aliens? or the CIA? or what? It's a mystery that they and us try to figure out.

I liked the art direction, the way the sets looked, very cool. And if you think about it the cubes could have looked a million different ways, the design they went with was very simple, yet effective.

I also liked the makeup department or in this case the lack of makeup. Now think about that, how often do you see actresses in a movie with no make up at all? But in the Cube Nicole de Boer is ala natural. I found the lack of make up refreshing and it made these people look like real people under stress, they look gnarly.

I thought the script could have had more depth and detail and some of the plot developments where standard fare, but it still works and keeps you interested and the whole idea of people trapped in this cube maze works well.

I was happy to see Nicole deBoer in this, she played a very similar role two years earlier in an episode of Outer Limits 'Quality of Mercy'. She was also a cast member on Star Trek Deep Space Nine.
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'Quality of Mercy' The Outer Limits (1995)

By a simple use of colored lights each cube cell had its on vibe going on. Some of the cubes contain a deadly surprise too. Don't blink in the first few seconds or you will miss someone meeting their demise.

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Overall the Cube was an enjoyable film to watch.

rating_3_5

Omnizoa

01-06-16, 12:14 AM

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Cube (1997)

A very good movie with my only real complaint being the graphic mutilation.

I don't like watching that stuff, especially when it feels like there's someone off-camera putting pages from the Saw sequels into my psychological thriller.

I gotta rewatch it again.

*EDIT: I don't recommend the sequel, Hypercube. It ruins the mystery.

gbgoodies

01-06-16, 12:29 AM

Rules, I watched The Host recently, both the one in the Sci-Fi/Horror HoF and the other version that you recommended. They were both okay, but surprisingly, the Sci-Fi/Horror HoF movie was the better of the two movies.

The Host (2013) - (Not the Sci-Fi/Horror HoF movie, but the one that was recommended by Citizen Rules.)
Interesting concept, but too slow, and kind of boring. I never really got into the movie enough to care about the characters.

The Host (2006) - (This is the Sci-Fi/Horror HoF movie.)
Not bad, but kind of goofy for a sci-fi/horror movie. The music gave it more of a comedic feel than a thriller.

edarsenal

01-06-16, 12:53 PM

Hey Ed, I know what you mean about Goldblum he's very twitchy/odd on the screen. I think in The Fly however it works to his advantage as it makes seem a bit odd even before he merges with a fly.

I seen a film you just rated, Robin and Marian (1976). We might be the only two MoFos to have seen that. Wait a minute, make that three MoFos I'm sure MarkF has seen it. Good to see that film get mentioned:)

Very true regarding Goldblum in Fly. So may actually do a rewatch at some point, who knows? I actually tolerated him in Independence Day

VERY glad to hear you enjoyed Robin and Marian. (Just realized I didn't add (REWATCH) and had to fix the post) Great movie, ALWAYS puts a smile on my face and that I actually caught it from the get-go by pure accident put even a BIGGER smile on my face
And yes, it would be VERY safe to bet Mark saw it lol In fact, double-checked and YEP, he watched it this weekend as well. He had it at 3.5 popcorns which is pretty good for his ratings.

I've seen The Host some years ago. Had seen it with subtitles. Loved the family as well.

And Cube is one of those I've been wanting to see and never seem to get to

Omnizoa

01-06-16, 01:02 PM

Cube is one of those I've been wanting to see and never seem to get to
It's worth it. It's 90 minutes, but it doesn't really feel like it's that long, at least to me.

Citizen Rules

01-06-16, 03:05 PM

A very good movie with my only real complaint being the graphic mutilation. I'm really not into gory mutilation stuff, yuk. But for me, the scenes in the Cube were more over the top so did not seem real and so then didn't bother me.

Rules, I watched The Host recently, both the one in the Sci-Fi/Horror HoF and the other version that you recommended. They were both okay, but surprisingly, the Sci-Fi/Horror HoF movie was the better of the two movies.I can agree with that but I would have though you would have liked the other version better. So what about the Korean Sci Fi Horror version did you like?

gbgoodies

01-06-16, 03:27 PM

Rules, I watched The Host recently, both the one in the Sci-Fi/Horror HoF and the other version that you recommended. They were both okay, but surprisingly, the Sci-Fi/Horror HoF movie was the better of the two movies.

I can agree with that but I would have though you would have liked the other version better. So what about the Korean Sci Fi Horror version did you like?

It focused more on the people than the creature, it wasn't too gory, and it almost had the feel of the old sci-fi creature features. I don't consider it a great movie, but it was a lot better than I expected it to be. (TBH, I'm not really sure why I watched it because it didn't really sound like my kind of movie. :confused: )

Omnizoa

01-06-16, 03:30 PM

I'm really not into gory mutilation stuff, yuk. But for me, the scenes in the Cube were more over the top so did not seem real and so then didn't bother me.
My suspension of disbelief and gag factor do not often meet. It's really more a detail thing for me.

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Citizen Rules

01-06-16, 03:33 PM

It focused more on the people than the creature, it wasn't too gory, and it almost had the feel of the old sci-fi creature features. I don't consider it a great movie, but it was a lot better than I expected it to be. (TBH, I'm not really sure why I watched it because it didn't really sound like my kind of movie. :confused: ) Yeah, I'm surprised you watched it (there should be a surprised smiley that I could use)....It did have a charm of the old monster movies. I'm guessing you watched the English dubbed version?

gbgoodies

01-06-16, 03:38 PM

Yeah, I'm surprised you watched it (there should be a surprised smiley that I could use)....It did have a charm of the old monster movies. I'm guessing you watched the English dubbed version?

Yes. I probably would have turned it off early on if it was subtitled.

MovieMeditation

01-06-16, 03:45 PM

*EDIT: I don't recommend the sequel, Hypercube. It ruins the mystery.
Hypercube is one of very very few movies in my book, which falls in the group of 0.5 ratings.

It's one of the worst I have ever seen in my life. The first Cube is quite enjoyable though. Good reviews, Citizen!

Citizen Rules

01-06-16, 03:46 PM

I will avoid Hypercube! Thanks for the heads up:)

Omnizoa

01-06-16, 04:20 PM

MovieMeditation

01-06-16, 04:41 PM

Hypercube is one of very very few movies in my book, which falls in the group of rating_0_5 ratings.

It's one of the worst I have ever seen in my life.

DAAAAAMN, I wouldn't have gone that far. Did you see Cube: Zero?
Out of more than 2,000 films rated on IMDb, only 25 of them gets that low a score from me. But yeah, nothing worked for me in that film.

And no I haven't, I never bothered.

Omnizoa

01-06-16, 04:52 PM

Out of more than 2,000 films rated on IMDb, only 25 of them gets that low a score from me. But yeah, nothing worked for me in that film.

And no I haven't, I never bothered.

Oh...

I did. You're really missing out...

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Citizen Rules

01-06-16, 04:54 PM

Have either of you seen the Outer Limits episode Quality of Mercy with Nicole DeBoer? It has some similarities to the Cube.

Omnizoa

01-06-16, 05:07 PM

Have either of you seen the Outer Limits episode Quality of Mercy with Nicole DeBoer? It has some similarities to the Cube.
EEEEEEEEGGGGGGHHHHH I gotta watch that.

I listened to, like, the entire Twilight Zone series of audiobooks. Now I want to watch the show as well as Outer Limits and Tales From The Darkside, but I haven't got to them yet.

Citizen Rules

01-06-16, 05:11 PM

I remember Tales From The Darkside, great show! I have all of the older Outer Limits on DVD set, I wish I had the newer show as well.

Omnizoa

01-06-16, 05:16 PM

I remember Tales From The Darkside, great show! I have all of the older Outer Limits on DVD set, I wish I had the newer show as well.

I'm extremely picky about what I buy to keep, but a good DVD set of The Twilight Zone would be an easy buy if it's as good as I remember.

Tales from the Crypt was also interesting. I honestly saw more of that than Outer Limits.

Citizen Rules

01-06-16, 10:01 PM

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Event Horizon (1997)
Director: Paul W.S. Anderson
Cast: Laurence Fishburne, Sam Neill, Kathleen Quinlan
Genre: Sci-Fi Horror

Date 2047: A star ship the 'Event Horizon' that had mysteriously disappeared into a black hole seven years earlier suddenly reappears in orbit around Neptune. A rescue team is dispatched to investigate and salvage the mystery ship.

Event Horizon has some things going for it...and some things against it. The concept of a long lost star ship reappearing after it had mysteriously disappeared into a black hole apparently having traveled to another dimension, which might be Hell...and then, bringing something back from that dark evil place, is a cool idea!

But I wish they would have explored the concept of what Hell was like and how it manifested itself on the ship in more detail. This could have had some deep existential ideas and explored some unique concepts. Instead we get a fun-horror-gore movie with people dying in gruesome ways. Event Horizon could have been so much more.

To me the ship was the best thing as there wasn't much of character development and not much in the way of intriguing story lines. I liked the way the ship was mostly dark inside which made it look realer and creepier too. The outer space scenes looked really good. I'd give a 5/5 rating for the art design! The ship was one of the best I've seen in sci fi, especially the rotating hallway and the singularity engine drive which looked like a giant gyroscope. Very cool.

Since this movie first came out those sets have been copied in other sci fi movies and have become iconic staple of sci fi.

Two big name actors appear in this, Laurence Fishburne and Sam Neill. Sam Neil especially works well in his role. He's a pivotal part of the story and makes for an interesting character.

Event Horizon is best taken as fun entertainment, it has a great look, an interesting concept and if you like gore it's got that too.

rating_3+

Citizen Rules

01-07-16, 12:33 AM

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The Hidden (1987)
Director: Jack Sholder
Cast: Kyle MacLachlan, Michael Nouri, Claudia Christian
Genre: Sci Fi Action
Length: 96 minutes

An alien parasite with the ability to possess human bodies, goes on a violent crime spree in Los Angles. Pursued by a human cop and also by an alien cop who's inhabiting a human body.

Well not much is hidden there in that pic;) The Hidden reeks of the 80s...and in a good way! If it was made today the director would get high praise for his parody of all things 1980s. I mean we get people listening to 'boom boxes', driving Ferrari's, a 'new wave' soundtrack and all those 80's fashions, like that revealing red dress!

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There's a lot of gun play and people drop like flies but it's never overly violent or sadistic. Best of all this film has a sense of humor about itself. I loved how the 'hidden' alien in human form loved to rock out to obscure 80s rock/pop music but flies into a range when country music is played! Now that's funny! Never a dull moment in this film.

The film opens with one heck of an exciting chase scene in a Ferrari as bullets fly, its exhilarating. The man driving like a bat out of hell is veteran actor, Chris Mulkey.

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The Hidden alien takes several forms, played by different actors and continually shifts bodies, which thwarts the hard work of the police. The police are clueless and think they have an unrelated string of homicides. Little do they know what's in store for them.

The film takes on a new level of violence when the alien takes over a strippers body, played by Babylonian 5, Claudia Christian. You almost end up rooting for her, because, well she's so hot!

Hot on her tracks is the new 'cop' in town played by Kyle MacLachlan. This cop is a bit odd, he doesn't seem to understand human behavior but he knows how to locate the alien.

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Even the beer taste like the 80s, that's George Killian's Irish Red beer they're drinking.

The Hidden is one heck of a fun movie. It never drags and often surprises.

rating_3_5+

Captain Steel

01-07-16, 12:46 AM

Would we steer you wrong? ;)

Citizen Rules

01-07-16, 08:26 PM

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Pandorum (2009)
Director: Christian Alvart
Cast: Dennis Quaid, Ben Foster, Cam Gigandet
Genre: Sci-Fi Horror Action
Length: 108 minutes

On a huge derelict spaceship adrift in space, two crew members wake up from deep stasis sleep with no knowledge of what their mission is or even who they are. They're forced to explore the strange ship in attempt to find clues to their identities. In the dark corridors of this huge space craft they encounter some violent predatory creatures lurking in the shadows.

I didn't care for this film, it seemed to be more of a generic horror/monster film that just happens to be set in space. The sci fi elements were weak, other than the ship there wasn't much in the way of sci fi. There was no real storyline either or interesting tidbits, no 'universe building' within the movie. We never really get to know or care about the characters. What we get is a real long survival flick set against numerous movie zombies.

I got a feeling this film was shot with saving money in mind: it was very dark lighting which equates to: no need to make expensive sets. I could hardly see the ship or any details it was so dark... and what I did see made me feel like it was a movie set. In movies like Event Horizon or Alien they show us really cool looking ships that seemed believable. In Pandorum nothing was believable and most all scenes were close ups of actors which took away from the feel of being in space.

I didn't care for the characters either, we don't learn anything about them, there just huge blanks. If I don't care about the characters or the story then why watch. In the end I was hoping the zombies would just eat them all so the movie could end.

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rating_2

Citizen Rules

01-07-16, 09:00 PM

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Barefoot in the Park (1967)
Director: Gene Saks
Writers: Neil Simon (play & screenplay)
Stars: Robert Redford, Jane Fonda, Charles Boyer
Genre: Comedy Romance

Paul (Robert Redford) is a quiet, well mannered young lawyer who has just married the vivacious and extravagant Corie (Jane Fonda). After a passionate six night honeymoon in an upscale hotel, the couple come down to reality when Corie rents a five flight high New York City apartment, with no elevators.

I did not like this. There was no story line, it was just a bunch of dialogue that I did not find clever...and the scenes seemed to run together. Very indicative of 'free form' films from 1967-1968.

A rom com works if you fall in love with the couple, as they fall in love, so do we....but Jane Fonda was annoying! She was stupid and whining and needed a good spanking...as she acted like a spoiled child.

She treated Robert Redford poorly but he never complained about the crummy apartment or her need to be so extravagant. But she couldn't accept him for what he was, a mellow, laid back guy. So it's hard to care about Jane Fonda's character when she's a real PITA. I can't image too many guys loving this film, unless it's too look at Jane in her undies.

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On the flip side I could see how the ladies like this movie because Robert Redford is like a lost puppy dog and so they 'fall' for him as they root for him to get a fair break in life. I just wanted Robert Redford to get the hell away from crazy Jane.

Oh, I hated the cheesy music score too.

rating_2_5

gbgoodies

01-07-16, 09:07 PM

MovieGal

01-07-16, 09:08 PM

Hey CR, I have a film suggestion for you!

Citizen Rules

01-07-16, 09:25 PM

It's a shame that you didn't like Barefoot in the Park. It's one of my favorite movies.

I don't find Jane Fonda annoying in this movie. I love the way she just makes the most out of what little they have. She's seems like such a fun person who's not afraid to try new things. (Sadly, I'm more like Robert Redford's character.)

I gave you +rep for watching the movie, even though I don't agree with your rating. :) Thank you I appreciate the rep. I felt kind of bad giving the film a bad review as I know you like it. It's even on Roger Ebert's list of top films, so you are in good company. But as much as I thought I would love this film, I did not. I'll still give Redford and Fonda more chances. Maybe the Electric Horseman.

Citizen Rules

01-07-16, 09:27 PM

Hey CR, I have a film suggestion for you!
Suggest away:p What do you have?

gbgoodies

01-07-16, 09:30 PM

Thank you I appreciate the rep. I felt kind of bad giving the film a bad review as I know you like it. It's even on Roger Ebert's list of top films, so you are in good company. But as much as I thought I would love this film, I did not. I'll still give Redford and Fonda more chances. Maybe the Electric Horseman.

You're entitled to your opinion, even if I don't agree with it. I'm sure there are movies that you love that I don't care for. (Starship Troopers comes to mind.)

I love The Electric Horseman too, but it's a very different movie from Barefoot in the Park. I'm looking forward to your review of it.

MovieGal

01-07-16, 09:32 PM

Suggest away:p What do you have?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIJjw0Lxd8k

MovieGal

01-07-16, 09:34 PM

You would like this as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPOzoFKyR-s

Captain Steel

01-07-16, 09:50 PM

Citizen Rules

01-07-16, 09:54 PM

Thanks MG, I can't click on the links right now as I'm downloading something and my slow-wonky internet might break the connection on the download. What are those films called?

Captain, the "The "Animals" film looks good" which one's are those?

MovieGal

01-07-16, 09:55 PM

The "Animals" film looks good - I'm a bit of a John Hurt fan. And, before I look it up on IMDB... that was young Christian Bale wasn't it? Christian Bale and John Hurt? Who'd have thunk it?

Oh Jeez - I just looked at the Prince of Jutland trailer! What is this, a Bale-a-thon? ;)

Nah, Foster had a thread that I posted two clips .. one of each film.. because he was a very good actor before he was famous...

You like John Hurt.. have you seen???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRov2-LZ51s

Also, Im a fan of the Irish director Jim Sheridan... this is one of his films...

MovieGal

01-07-16, 09:56 PM

CR, the films are "All The Little Animals" and "Prince of Jutland" aka "Prince of Denmark" and "Royal Deceit"..

the next one I posted to Captain Steel is "The Field"...

Citizen Rules

01-07-16, 10:01 PM

Thanks MG, I'll look up em up.:p

Captain Steel

01-07-16, 10:14 PM

MovieGal

01-07-16, 10:16 PM

Yes, the one I said looked good was "All the Little Animals." The story hinted at in the trailer seemed so unique (and it's got John Hurt)!

I've never seen The Field either!
MovieGal is turning me on to a bunch of John Hurt movies I've never seen!

Well they are films I have seen years ago.... Im sure I have seen films that probably only Markf has seen....

Citizen Rules

01-07-16, 10:17 PM

Yes, the one I said looked good was "All the Little Animals." The story hinted at in the trailer seemed so unique (and it's got John Hurt)!

I've never seen The Field either!
MovieGal is turning me on to a bunch of John Hurt movies I've never seen!MovieGal's good at that, I've seen some really cool films thanks to her recommendations.

MovieGal

01-07-16, 10:21 PM

MovieGal's good at that, I've seen some really cool films thanks to her recommendations.

CR, have you seen "Girl With The Pearl Earring"? Its one of my favorites.. its a fictional story built around Vermeer's painting by the same name..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIcrCFh0aM8

There is a book by the same name that the movie is based off... by Tracey Chevalier... the book is very good as well..

Citizen Rules

01-07-16, 10:22 PM

Yes I did, loved that film. It's been several years, but a really cool concept and story too.

MovieGal

01-07-16, 10:23 PM

Yes I did, loved that film. It's been several years, but a really cool concept and story too.

I found a tv show based off the founders of the Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood.... my favorite painter belonged to that brotherhood of artists.

The painter is John William Waterhouse.

Citizen Rules

01-07-16, 10:34 PM

I'm not familiar with John William Waterhouse, I looked him up and he had a really different style of painting, I like it.

I have one for you, I seen it a few years ago and really liked it. The Impressionists (2006)
A three-part factual docudrama miniseries from the BBC, which reconstructs the origins of the Impressionist art movement.Tells the intimate history of a most illustrious brotherhood of Impressionist artists - Monet, Degas, Renoir, Cézanne and Manet.

I think you might like that one.

MovieGal

01-07-16, 10:43 PM

There are many BBC series I enjoy...one of my favorite is about the English language... lol I found it interesting where most would find it a bore.

I even read the book the series was based off.

MovieGal

01-07-16, 10:45 PM

In regards to painters....I enjoy a certain style.

Citizen Rules

01-07-16, 10:48 PM

So you're not interested in the impressionist?

MovieGal

01-07-16, 10:51 PM

So you're not interested in the impressionist?

I will check it out however Monet really isn't what I enjoy.

Citizen Rules

01-07-16, 10:53 PM

It did of course show their work but it was a drama amount the men and I thought it was very entertaining. Most of the imprisonment lead very interesting lives.

Catch ya latter, I'm off for a movie and dinner:p

honeykid

01-08-16, 08:54 AM

I love The Hidden. It's a wonderful ride and I enjoy it each and every time.

Citizen Rules

01-09-16, 10:47 PM

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The Three Faces of Eve (1957)
Director: Nunnally Johnson
Writers: Nunnally Johnson(screenplay), Corbett Thigpen(novel)
Cast: Joanne Woodward, David Wayne, Lee J. Cobb
Genre: Biography Drama
Length: 91 minutes

Based on a true story and a famous book written about one of the first documented cases of Multiply Personality Disorder.

That poster is really misleading, it makes the movie look exploitative but it's not. This is a straight forward telling based on factual information about a real woman who suffered with multiple personalities. You know the film is serious when it starts with a doctor telling us that the film is serious! But yup, it was pretty serious and avoided the more cheesy aspects of a quiet, mousey housewife, Eve White who has multiple personalities including one that is a wild party girl, who calls herself Eve Black. Latter we learn there's a third personality but I won't spoil the film about telling about her.

Orson Welles had been sought for the role of the doctor who worked with Eve. Orson told the director that whatever actress he got to play Eve that she would win the Academy Award. Sure enough, Joanne Woodward won the award for best actresses.

Joanne Woodward is good in this, very good as she keeps her performance from going over the top and thus making it believable.

Lee J. Cobb plays the role of Dr Luther who treats Eve. What can I say he's perfect too. Not to much and not too little, in the way he portrays the Doctor.

The Three Faces of Eve is an important 50s film that is both well done and interesting. Well worth watching.

rating_3_5

Citizen Rules

01-11-16, 11:16 PM

Alrighty then...I've been watching John Hughes films and need to get to review them. So stay tuned:p

Citizen Rules

01-12-16, 04:03 PM

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Sixteen Candles (1984)
Director: John Hughes
Writer: John Hughes
Cast: Molly Ringwald, Anthony Michael Hall, Justin Henry
Genre: Comedy Romance
Length: 93 minutes

Samantha (Molly Ringwald) is turning 16, which should be a very special day for her, but her family has forgotten her birthday. Instead her family is focused on her older sisters wedding. Poor Sam has to suffer all sorts of embarrassments from well meaning grandparents...to the school geek Farmer Ted (Anthony Michael Hall), who has a crush on her and manages to get her panties as a trophy and shows them off to his friends. Worst of all she has a crush on the most popular guy in school, who doesn't even know she exist.

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John Hughes and Molly Ringwald were a movie match made in heaven. Sixteen Candles was John Hughes directorial debut and it was a huge success for him. This was Molly's second starring role in a film (her first was Space Hunter: Adventures in the Forbidden Zone,1983) Hughes considered Molly his muse and built his early career around her. It's hard to image one with out the other. Together they defined a sub genre of Teen Angst films. It's too bad they only made one more film together but it was one of the greats: 1985's The Breakfast Club.

What makes this film work is director John Hughes understanding of teen angst. It's like someone's entire high school life is played out in 93 minutes by Sam, Farmer Ted or any one of the quirky but yet students who make up this movie. Even yours truly, can remember being in school and having the same sorts of stuff happening. Though the movie makes teen life seem much more funnier!

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But you know what makes this film such a classic, is all the various scenes...it's the well fleshed out moments that add zest to the story line. The story by itself would be good but it's the extra side stories that fill out this movie to make a completely satisfy film.

rating_5

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gbgoodies

01-12-16, 08:03 PM

I liked Sixteen Candles when I saw it the first 50 or so times, but it kind of gets annoying after that. I think part of the problem is that I've never been a fan of Molly Ringwald. I just don't get what people see in her. :shrug:

But I still love The Breakfast Club, even though she's in it. That movie is just too good to not love it. :)

Citizen Rules

01-12-16, 08:10 PM

50 times, you've seen it 50 times! Why?:D

I've only seen it 3 or 4 times since it came out. I rarely rewatch films over and over again. I know most people do, but I would get bored of any movie after just a few watches, unless it's been years.

Molly Ringwald might not have a big range of characters she could play but at the time in her life she was playing her self and very natural on screen. I haven't seen any of her latter stuff but always like the early stuff.

gbgoodies

01-12-16, 08:11 PM

Did you know that Michael Schoeffling, who played Jake, (the boy she liked), retired from acting? The last I heard, he was building furniture in Lancaster, Pennsylvania.

seanc

01-12-16, 08:14 PM

5 banger for Sixteen Candles, interesting. I think 2016 should be the year Citizen does a 100 list.

gbgoodies

01-12-16, 08:14 PM

50 times, you've seen it 50 times! Why?:D

I've only seen it 3 or 4 times since it came out. I rarely rewatch films over and over again. I know most people do, but I would get bored of any movie after just a few watches, unless it's been years.

Probably because it's been on TV so many times. There are bunch of movies that I'll watch every time I find them when I'm flipping channels, and for a while, Sixteen Candles was on that list.

Molly Ringwald might not have a big range of characters she could play but at the time in her life she was playing her self and very natural on screen. I haven't seen any of her latter stuff but always like the early stuff.

I haven't seen any of her more recent stuff either, but I read somewhere that she's been doing more arthouse stuff.

Citizen Rules

01-12-16, 08:27 PM

Did you know that Michael Schoeffling, who played Jake, (the boy she liked), retired from acting? The last I heard, he was building furniture in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Good, he was boring. He's the only character that doesn't shine. I read on IMDB trivia that he was so shy when he auditioned he almost didn't get the part.

5 banger for Sixteen Candles, interesting. I think 2016 should be the year Citizen does a 100 list. I'm glad you asked. Here's why, of course Sixteen Candles 5/5 is not the same as Laurence of Arabia 5/5...so I don't compare all movies to one rating guide. In this case, I feel Sixteen Candles nails what it's trying to do and was ground breaking. So 5/5:p

I haven't seen any of her more recent stuff either, but I read somewhere that she's been doing more arthouse stuff. I just requested Betsy's Wedding, which I've never seen. The only other thing I've seen Molly in as an adult was an episode of Outer Limits, and she was good but not stand out.

seanc

01-13-16, 11:58 AM

I'm glad you asked. Here's why, of course Sixteen Candles 5/5 is not the same as Laurence of Arabia 5/5...so I don't compare all movies to one rating guide. In this case, I feel Sixteen Candles nails what it's trying to do and was ground breaking. So 5/5:p

I have no problem with the perfect score, it just took me by surprise. Makes me want to see a comprehensive list of your favorites. Everyone needs a hundred list to set their favorites in atone and then blow up with dynamite when they despise the way they put it together.:D Join the fun. I mean who just watches movies and talks about them anymore. We must have lists.

Citizen Rules

01-13-16, 12:10 PM

Thanks Sean, I really should do a Top 100 list,...or some kind of list. I've thought about it a lot too. One of these days, it might be fun at that:p

honeykid

01-13-16, 12:33 PM

I really like Betsy's Wedding. I hope you enjoy it. :)

Citizen Rules

01-13-16, 01:33 PM

Thanks....I'll post a review here after I watch it.

Citizen Rules

01-13-16, 02:23 PM

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The Wonderful Horrible Life of Leni Riefenstahl (1993)
"Die Macht der Bilder: Leni Riefenstahl" (original title)
Director: Ray Müller
Writer: Ray Müller
Stars: Leni Riefenstahl
Genre: Documentary, Biography, History

An insightful documentary into one of Germany's greatest directors, Leni Riefenstahl, who won world acclaim for her two documentaries: Olympia (1938) and Triumph of the Will (1935). After WWII she was ostracizied and scorned by the world for her involvement with the Nazi party, though she was never a member.

What struck me most about this film was with a turn of events, a promising director who might have achieved greatness instead chose to cast her fortune with Hitler and ended up a hated woman. There's something about how one's life can turn on a dime and fortunes change, Leni's life certainly did that.

Had things been different, if she had came to America in the 1930s like so many other German directors did...we might be talking about Leni and her films, instead she's nearly forgotten today.

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Leni Riefenstahl is arguably one of the greatest woman directors.

"Riefenstahl won several awards, not only in Germany but also in the United States, France, Sweden, and other countries for Triumph of the Will."

Do to her association with Adolf Hitler and Triumph of the Will she became a very hated woman and her career was ruined. Leni was a genius at cinematography, directing and editing and some compare her to Orson Welles. Yet today even cinephiles know very little about her or her work, she made only a few films. Her work is worth exploring.

This film on Leni's life covers from her earliest days as a silent screen actresses, to her days as one of the first women directors, to the controversy of her associate with Hitler and the role she played in history...to her latter work in Africa as a photographer. And we learn about her personal life, Leni scuba dived into her 90s and had a much younger male companion too. Like her or hate her she was a remarkable woman. This is a must watch for any cinephile.

rating_4_5

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SilentVamp

01-13-16, 02:40 PM

First things first, I love "Sixteen Candles". I am a sucker for that kind of film, anyway. Every now and then it is nice to just watch a simple film like that. Although, I am more a "Pretty In Pink" sort of gal. That one is a 5/5 for me. :)

Speaking of Molly Ringwald, there was that TV movie (I think it was called "Surviving") that wasn't too bad. Depressing but not bad. I think it is from the mid-80's. That was one of her better performances, I think. I am not too impressed with her as an actress, though. She seems like the sort of person who is the same in everything. Even if her characters are similar, it doesn't mean her acting should be.

Thanks Sean, I really should do a Top 100 list,...or some kind of list. I've thought about it a lot too. One of these days, it might be fun at that:p
I would love to see you accomplish this. If you could do it, maybe I would try one. But only if you did it first. :D Also, the keyword there for me was "maybe". ;)

Citizen Rules

01-13-16, 02:46 PM

I watched Pretty in Pink awhile ago and I've been meaning to write a review. It's not a 5/5 for me as I just don't like the actor who played Ducky, Jon Cryer. Though I did like Molly in it, Annie Potts too, but I especially liked the bad guy, who was great at being bad! James Spader...Now I feel like writing that review:p

SilentVamp

01-13-16, 02:53 PM

I watched Pretty in Pink awhile ago and I've been meaning to write a review. It's not a 5/5 for me as I just don't like the actor who played Ducky Jon Cryer, though I did like Molly in it, Annie Potts too, but especially the bad guy, who was great at being bad, James Spader...Now I feel like writing that review:p
I'm indifferent towards Jon Cryer as an actor, but I love the character of Duckie. As a girl, I always preferred him over Blane. :rolleyes: :D Although, I have said for years that Andrew McCarthy has one of the best smiles ever. So, Blane may have won me over if he smiled at me. :D

As for James Spader, he is great in there. One thing he is really good at is playing someone slimy and snaky. A lot of the time the "bad" guys are the ones that I like best in a movie. I think they are the most interesting. And I always thought he was the most interesting character in there.

Citizen Rules

01-13-16, 03:04 PM

As for James Spader, he is great in there. One thing he is really good at is playing someone slimy and snaky. A lot of the time the "bad" guys are the ones that I like best in a movie. I think they are the most interesting. And I always thought he was the most interesting character in there. Agreed and agreed. I really need to fill in my missing 80s film knowledge by watching some of Spader's films. Wasn't he in Less Than Zero?

SilentVamp

01-13-16, 03:10 PM

Agreed and agreed. I really need to fill in my missing 80s film knowledge by watching some of Spader's films. Wasn't he in Less Than Zero?
Yes, he was. And he is even worse, character wise, in that one.

Have you ever seen "White Palace" with James Spader and Susan Sarandon? His character is completely different in there than what I have ever seen him in. I like the movie. I like it a lot, actually. I know it isn't everyone's cup of tea, but I think I like it so much because I really like his character - and him - in there. It was one of those movies that I never really had any intention of watching. Then, one day, there was absolutely nothing on TV, and I sat through that. I ended up really liking it, which kind of surprised me. I just didn't think I would.

Citizen Rules

01-13-16, 03:16 PM

I know James Spader played a nerdy smart guy in Stargate. I haven't seen White Palace but I'm going to add that to my 2016 list of films to watch, I'll add Less Than Zero too.

Gideon58

01-13-16, 03:52 PM

I know James Spader played a nerdy smart guy in Stargate. I haven't seen White Palace but I'm going to add that to my 2016 list of films to watch, I'll add Less Than Zero too.
I loved White Palace...the chemistry between Spader and Susan Sarandon is off the charts...Less than Zero is worth seeing for the performance of Robert Downey Jr.

Citizen Rules

01-13-16, 04:04 PM

Robert Downey Jr, is another actor who I should work at seeing his films.

Captain Steel

01-13-16, 04:11 PM

Robert Downey Jr, is another actor who I should work at seeing his films.

Have you ever seen Heart and Souls (1993), Rules?
I'm not a big Robert Downey Jr. fan, but I really liked that movie.
(Haven't seen it in a long time so I hope it's held up as well as I remember it.)

Citizen Rules

01-13-16, 04:19 PM

Never heard of it, but, I just looked up and it sounds interesting. I'll add that one too my watch list too, thanks:)

gbgoodies

01-13-16, 04:24 PM

Have you ever seen Heart and Souls (1993), Rules?
I'm not a big Robert Downey Jr. fan, but I really liked that movie.
(Haven't seen it in a long time so I hope it's held up as well as I remember it.)

Never heard of it, but, I just looked up and it sounds interesting. I'll add that one too my watch list too, thanks:)

Yes you have. You just don't remember hearing of it. ;)

http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1332420#post1332420

Citizen Rules

01-13-16, 04:27 PM

Your review didn't look familiar, either my memory is worse that I remember;) or I didn't see your review. But it sounds great and if you really liked it, I'm sure I will at least enjoy it.

Captain Steel

01-13-16, 04:30 PM

Never heard of it, but, I just looked up and it sounds interesting. I'll add that one too my watch list too, thanks:)

Yep. GBG summed it up in her review - you'll laugh, you'll cry.
It's one of those life-affirming movies that leaves you a little better than before you watched it. (Plus, who doesn't want to see Charles Grodin when he was still acting?) :)

Citizen Rules

01-13-16, 04:31 PM

Oh Charles Grodin is in it? Do you guys like him? I never did.

gbgoodies

01-13-16, 04:42 PM

Your review didn't look familiar, either my memory is worse that I remember;) or I didn't see your review. But it sounds great and if you really liked it, I'm sure I will at least enjoy it.

I'd be surprised if you don't like it. You should also check out the Robert Downey Jr. movie Chances Are. It's not quite as good, but it's also a great movie.

http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1332419#post1332419

Oh Charles Grodin is in it? Do you guys like him? I never did.

I haven't seen Charles Grodin in a lot of movies, but I like him in Seems Like Old Times and Midnight Run.

Citizen Rules

01-13-16, 04:45 PM

I use to see Grodin on David Letterman, he was funny in a know-it-all type of way, but I think that was just an act. I'm sure he'll be OK in the film.

Didn't you recently watch The Tender Trap?

Captain Steel

01-13-16, 04:57 PM

Oh Charles Grodin is in it? Do you guys like him? I never did.

I'm not really familiar with a lot of his work (for instance, I've never seen a single "Beethoven" movie - the ones about the dog). But I liked the fact that Grodin played low-key, dead-pan, usually neurotic characters. He was good in The Heartbreak Kid (1972) & Midnight Run (1988) and I especially liked him in The Lonely Guy (1984) with Steve Martin.

I absolutely love his character in Heart & Souls. I'm not a huge fan of anyone in particular in the movie, but it works so well and is such a wonderful film.

gbgoodies

01-13-16, 05:00 PM

I use to see Grodin on David Letterman, he was funny in a know-it-all type of way, but I think that was just an act. I'm sure he'll be OK in the film.

Didn't you recently watch The Tender Trap?

Yes, I watched The Tender Trap recently, but Charles Grodin isn't in it. :confused:

Citizen Rules

01-13-16, 05:07 PM

But Debbie Reynolds was, she was totally wrong for the part too. I'm not a fan of hers. And I can't believe for a second that Sinatra's character would fall in love with her. She was basically annoying. I would have went with Celeste Holmes.

Captain, I just added The Lonely Guy to my watch list, which is getting bigger:D But you guys have steered me to some really great films:p

gbgoodies

01-13-16, 05:17 PM

But Debbie Reynolds was, she was totally wrong for the part too. I'm not a fan of hers. And I can't believe for a second that Sinatra's character would fall in love with her. She was basically annoying. I would have went with Celeste Holmes.

I liked Debbie Reynolds in The Tender Trap. Not as much as I like her in some of her other movies, but I didn't think she was wrong for the part.

Are you watching it now? (It sounds like you may not have gotten to the end yet.)

Citizen Rules

01-13-16, 05:24 PM

gbgoodies

01-13-16, 05:36 PM

I watched it last night, I had seen your review and so I got it. I had seen it before it's a really good film.

I just don't see a swinging bachelor like Sinatra choosing her, she was young, naive, silly about the way she planned out her whole future and had a personality of a cold fish. As we know Sinatra didn't care much for the fish.

Yeah, but she was cute, and he seemed to be attracted to her from the first time he met her. She was the one who wasn't interested in him at first.

Citizen Rules

01-13-16, 05:40 PM

I didn't think she was cute, Poppy the first girl was cute. I could see Shirley MacLaine in Reynolds role...or better yet Shirley Jones.

gbgoodies

01-13-16, 05:46 PM

I didn't think she was cute, Poppy the first girl was cute. I could see Shirley MacLaine in Reynolds role...or better yet Shirley Jones.

Shirley MacLaine yes, but I'm not so sure about Shirley Jones.

Citizen Rules

01-13-16, 05:54 PM

You don't like Shirley Jones? or just don't see here in the part?

Oh, I have to agree with you, the opening song The Tender Trap by Sinatra is very cool! Love that song.

On the DVD was a short 15 documentary on Frank Sinatra in the 50s, called "Frank in the Fifties" if you can find it, it's interesting. Did you know Columbia records dropped him early in his carrier? And that he walked out on MGM as he didn't like the roles he was getting.

gbgoodies

01-13-16, 06:09 PM

You don't like Shirley Jones? or just don't see here in the part?

I like Shirley Jones, just not for that part.

Oh, I have to agree with you, the opening song The Tender Trap by Sinatra is very cool! Love that song.

On the DVD was a short 15 documentary on Frank Sinatra in the 50s, called "Frank in the Fifties" if you can find it, it's interesting. Did you know Columbia records dropped him early in his carrier? And that he walked out on MGM as he didn't like the roles he was getting.

I know there were problems with Sinatra as an actor. He was a good actor, but I've always liked him more as a singer than as an actor.

Did you know that he was originally cast to star in the movie Carousel, but he walked off the set when he found out that some scenes would have to be filmed twice for Cinemascope? The irony is that they found a different way to film it after he left, and the scenes only had to be filmed once.

Citizen Rules

01-13-16, 08:40 PM

Did you know that he was originally cast to star in the movie Carousel, but he walked off the set when he found out that some scenes would have to be filmed twice for Cinemascope?

The irony is that they found a different way to film it after he left, and the scenes only had to be filmed once.

That's interesting, I didn't know that. I know he really hated doing second takes on his movies.

Jamuel L. Sackson

01-13-16, 08:50 PM

I agree with what you said about the time travel. Not only that but it is a form of catharsis for me. Maybe I'm going through a break up, or surgery, or a death in the family and I don't know how to handle any of those situations. Suddenly I might want to hang out with one of my favorite movie buddies Travis Bickle, The Man with no name, or Jules. Maybe they can give me some insight on the situation, or simply relieve me of my emotional burden.

Gideon58

01-14-16, 10:59 AM

Have you ever seen Heart and Souls (1993), Rules?
I'm not a big Robert Downey Jr. fan, but I really liked that movie.
(Haven't seen it in a long time so I hope it's held up as well as I remember it.)
On the subject of Robert Downey Jr., I would also recommend The Pick Up Artist, Tropic Thunder, Iron Man, Zodiac, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, and Wonder Boys.

Citizen Rules

01-14-16, 02:34 PM

Thanks Gideon, I'll check this out and try to watch some of them.

Gideon58

01-14-16, 07:58 PM

I liked Debbie Reynolds in The Tender Trap. Not as much as I like her in some of her other movies, but I didn't think she was wrong for the part.

Are you watching it now? (It sounds like you may not have gotten to the end yet.)
I liked Reynolds in The Tender Trap, but she had NO chemistry with Sinatra.

honeykid

01-14-16, 08:14 PM

Probably because he was a ****.

Citizen Rules

01-14-16, 09:02 PM

Probably because he was a ****.Ya but Sinatra's one cool a ****;)

Gideon you're right Sinatra and Reynolds had no chemistry on screen. Off screen I have to think Debbie Reynolds was just to different of a personality for Frank to like.

honeykid

01-14-16, 09:05 PM

Ya but Sinatra's one cool a ****;)

I've never thought so, but I seem to be in the minority on that one. There again, it was the 50's and the 50's were crap. :p:D

Citizen Rules

01-14-16, 09:07 PM

I seen a 15 min documentary on the DVD for The Tender Trap called Frank in the 50s.

At the end of it, they said everyone thinks Frank's the coolest:cool:well....except you and my mom. My mom does not like Frank Sinatra! So you're in good company:p

honeykid

01-14-16, 09:15 PM

I like the sound of your mum. She sounds like a good, right thinking woman. :D:up:

TBF, they weren't going to say anything else, were they?

Citizen Rules

01-16-16, 03:27 PM

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The Tender Trap (1955)
Director: Charles Walters
Cast: Frank Sinatra, David Wayne, Celeste Holm, Debbie Reynolds
Genre: Drama with comic & romantic situations
Length: 111 minutes

'Charlie' Frank Sinatra, is a swinging bachelor with a girl on each arm. His long time school buddy 'Joe' David Wayne visits him and then falls for one of his girlfriends. Meanwhile Charlie is casting one of his theater shows and becomes smitten with the young new talent, 'Julie' Debbie Reynolds, who at first want's nothing to do with the man-about-town Sinatra.

This is a good film, it's interesting with good pacing and is insightful to the 1950s mindset of men-women relationships. It might look like a musical rom-com farce, but it's not. It's a drama with light comedy that comes out of real life friction between Joe (David Wayne) who's a married family man and his long time buddy Charlie (Frank Sinatra) who's a bit of a cad with the ladies and has a number of girls that he strings along.

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The bright spots in The Tender Trap is Celeste Holm, she really carries her role well as an older woman in New York who's sacrificed marriage for a professional career. Celeste is intelligent and funny in a real way. She's the focal point of the film.

Both Sinatra and David Wayne are very good in this. Frank is born to play the hipster with the swinging bachelor pad and a girl for each day. We see four of his girlfriends and it's interesting how each of them have a different personality and role in his life.

David Wayne is the average 'Joe', that's probably why his character is named Joe. He's full of 50s repression and angst, he want's to change his life but is a family man who can't be a free spirit like his friend Charlie.

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Debbie Reynolds is the very young, priggish woman who has her life all planned out and wants to pigeon hole everyone into a neat little box. Somehow with all the beautiful woman in NYC, Sinatra falls for her. To me this is the weak part of the film. I found the character of Julie annoying, immature and no way appealing. I can't buy into the fact that Sinatra's character would pass up someone like Sylvia (Celeste Holm) for Julie.

The film looks great! Being an early Eastman color film, the colors are natural and yet vivid. On the official DVD, the print looks great and is restored. The apartment, the fashions and NYC never looked better!

rating_3_5+

Citizen Rules

01-16-16, 06:14 PM

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Betsy's Wedding (1990)
Director: Alan Alda
Writer: Alan Alda
Stars: see below
Genre: Comedy Romance
Length: 94 minutes

It's been a long time since I seen since a crappy film as Betsy's Wedding, what a waste of star talent!

Writer/Director/Star Alan Alda puts everything including the kitchen sink into his hodge-podged movie. We get a plethora of who's who in Hollywood in the early 90's with some very talented people. Most of them get to do nothing interesting in this film.

Alan Alda
Molly Ringwald
Joey Bishop
Ally Sheedy
Joe Pesci
Madeline Kahn
Catherine O'Hara
Burt Young

The film starts with a silly tiger fight scene that turns out to be a dream, this is done several times during the film and adds nothing to the already disembodied film. Joey Bishop appears as a ghost, why? Talented and funny Madeline Kahn acts like a zombie, her skills are wasted. Catherine O'Hara does get to show her talents but she has only a few minutes in this film.

Alan Alda sucks as a director writer, sorry but it does. Though he's actually one of the best characters in the movie and he needs to stay in front of the camera not behind it.

Joe Pesci is also funny as a mobster type, go figure. He's one of the few bright spots in the film.

Ally Sheedy has a larger role and ahhh, she's OK.

What wears thin is the cliche ethnic stereotypes. If I was Italian I would boycott this film.

I swear every old joke in the book is reused. Even poor Molly Ringwald who's lack luster in this..has surprisingly little air time. Once again, Molly plays the unconventional individualist who makes her own wacky clothes, ala Pretty in Pink.

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Yup, Molly's at it again making her own wedding dress, good grief Alan Alda write something original well you.

This is my first and last Alan Alda directed/written film. He fooled me once with this inane 94 minutes waste of film and talent, he won't do it again.

rating_1

honeykid

01-16-16, 09:17 PM

Sorry you didn't like it at all, CR. Maybe I'll have to give it another look and see how it's fared, but I liked it.

Captain Steel

01-16-16, 09:24 PM

CR - try Muriel's Wedding (1994) instead!

Citizen Rules

01-16-16, 09:32 PM

I like B budge and silly movies, but Betsy's Wedding wasn't good or even fun, except for the few actors I mentioned. I liked Molly Ringwald in her first 4 major films, but here she was just part of the furniture.

Muriel's Wedding never heard of it but Siskel and Ebert gave it two thumbs up which is good enough for me to add to my watchlist, Thanks

BTW can you guys see the pics in my review now?

honeykid

01-16-16, 09:34 PM

Yep, I can see the pics now. :up:

Citizen Rules

01-16-16, 09:38 PM

Lovely wedding dress, huh?:nope: Notice on the movie poster they altered her dress to make it look more appealing. I don't know why but that seems interesting to me.

Citizen Rules

01-16-16, 11:28 PM

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Three Comrades (1938)
Director: Frank Borzage
Writers: F. Scott Fitzgerald(screen play), Erich Maria Remarque
(novel)
Stars: Robert Taylor, Margaret Sullavan, Franchot Tone, Robert Young
Genre: Drama, War, Romance
Length: 98 minutes

A story of love and friendship centered around the lives of three young German soldiers who find themselves in desperate times during Germany's turbulent years following World War I. The three friends lives would be bleak, if it wasn't for one special woman.

This just might be one of the greatest films that never was. The novel was written by Erich Maria Remarque who also wrote the classic All Quiet On The Western Front. This movie functions almost like a epilogue to his more well known movie.

Equally impressive is, this is the only movie script that American novelist F. Scott Fitzgerald ever wrote.

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With all that you would expect Three Comrades to be a well known film, but its not. Mainly do to some flaws, the lead actor Robert Taylor is wooden in his acting. He was a leading man hired for his looks but his charisma and acting ability are lacking. On the other hand Franchot Tone is very personable and has great chemistry with the leading lady Marget Sullavan.

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Marget who was in the classic The Shop Around the Corner, plays a different role in this film, as someone who gives all she has to her friends. At one time James Stewart had been mentioned for the leading role, too bad for us that it went to Robert Taylor.

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Still the story is a good one, if, you know early 20th century German history. Without that knowledge the hostile street fighting between groups might seem not to make sense. The 1930s film code required that references to the actual name of the Para-Military groups that sprung up in German during the 20s, be removed from the film....The street thugs are in fact the early beginnings of the Nazi party. Robert Young attends secret meetings that put him at odds with the Nazis. His party isn't mentioned by name either, but it's the Communist party.

If you like history, you should watch this. It's not a perfectly made movie but there's a lot to like here.

rating_3_5

gbgoodies

01-17-16, 03:12 AM

It sounds like you enjoyed The Tender Trap a bit more than I did, but I agree that it's a good movie.

Betsy's Wedding (1990)

This is my first and last Alan Alda directed/written film. He fooled me once with this inane 94 minutes waste of film and talent, he won't do it again.

I haven't seen Betsy's Wedding, (and I don't like Molly Ringwald, so I'm not likely to watch it either), but if you decide to give Alan Alda another chance, try watching The Four Seasons (1981). It's been several years since I've seen it, but I remember it being a very good movie with a terrific cast.

Citizen Rules

01-17-16, 11:04 PM

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Pretty in Pink (1986)
Director: Howard Deutch
Writer: John Hughes
Cast: Molly Ringwald, Jon Cryer, Andrew McCarthy, James Spader, Annie Potts, Harrry Dean Stanton
Genre: Comedy, Drama, Romance

A poor girl must choose between the affections of her doting childhood sweetheart and a rich but sensitive playboy.

Pretty in Pink is like a more mature and cynical Sixteen Candles. If Molly was full of teen angst in her first John Hughes movie, here she has an edginess to her, which comes from being an outsider at a rich kids school where all the 'in kids' conform to the latest trends. Andie (Molly Ringwald) and her friend Duckie (Jon Cryer) refuse to conform and are the rebellious individualist. There's a lot more to this film than just a teen comedy, so read on.

One of my favorite scenes and there's a lot of them, is the time Andie spends with her friend Iona (Annie Potts). There's a real sweetness to their relationship and Annie Potts is just great in this role, she's both elliptically funny and very real and touching too.

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The prom dress scene is a favorite one.

I can't do a review without mentioning Jon Cryer who does a riotous over the top character Duckie. What makes his character work is he's Andies life long friend and unknown to her, has a secret crush for her. Which leads to heart ache for him, and causes him to suffer in silence.

Andrew McCarthy is the nice, rich guy that just might cross school social lines and date Andie, or will he? Not if his friend and super snobbish Steff, has anything to say about it. It's hard to find another really good-bad snobbish, jerk like the one expertly played by James Spader.

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What can I say this film delivers a lot and is so much more than a teen comedy, another fine John Hughes film.

rating_5

MovieGal

01-17-16, 11:10 PM

CR you know that is my favorite teen film... I hope to see it in theatres on Valentine's Day as Cinemark is playing it as part of their "classic" series...

Citizen Rules

01-17-16, 11:16 PM

CR you know that is my favorite teen film... I hope to see it in theatres on Valentine's Day as Cinemark is playing it as part of their "classic" series... I knew it was your favorite:p It's a good one too. How cool to see it on the big screen, I hope you get to see it.

BTW can you guys see my three pics on the review now?

MovieGal

01-17-16, 11:20 PM

yes

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Citizen Rules

01-17-16, 11:30 PM

Ha, I seen that pic and thought about using it too, good one.

MovieGal

01-17-16, 11:33 PM

I think this is one of the most popular lines in the film

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gbgoodies

01-17-16, 11:56 PM

I know that I've seen Pretty in Pink once or twice, but tbh, I don't really remember much about it. But it's been a long time since I watched it, so maybe it's due for a rewatch. :shrug:

MovieGal

01-18-16, 12:05 AM

Pretty in Pink is the reason I cant stand James Spader.. no matter what film or tv show he is on... I know many who love his acting.. but he will always be a d*ck!

SilentVamp

01-18-16, 04:56 PM

Have you seen "Some Kind of Wonderful"? That is another one that I really like. It is another John Hughes story. Yes, it is, essentially, "Pretty In Pink" with the sexes reversed, but it is a really good movie. I guess Hughes was never really happy with the ending to PIP . So, this is kind of like the film that he really wanted to make - the ending, at least.

Citizen Rules

01-18-16, 05:01 PM

Vamp, no I have not seen that one, but it sounds good...so I added it to my To Watch List. Thanks for the recommendation:)

Citizen Rules

01-20-16, 12:06 AM

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Beauty Day (2011)
Director: Jay Cheel
Writer: Jay Cheel
Cast: Ralph Zavadil, Robert Buick, Nancy Dewar
Genre: Documentary
Length: 92 minutes

Before the bodily harm, crazed antics of Jackass became popular phenomenon, there was Canada's Ralph Zavadil, aka Cap'n Video, who risked life and limb with sometimes dangerous and always zany antics.

I had never heard of Cap'n Video until I watched this enterainting documentary. The back story of the man behind Cap'n Video is a compelling one and at times sad.

Beauty Day is what I love about documentaries, it's a true story of an ecliptic daredevil who had his own '15 minutes of fame' with his own, self made for local cable, TV show in Ontario, Canada. It's pretty cool that this guy could do this and be successful for 5 years. The dude is nuts! Some of his stunts are OMG!!!...he actually lived through that!!! You have to see this to believe it.

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I also found myself feeling a sadness for Ralph (aka Cap'n Video). In the second part, he talked about his life, his lost relationships and experiences and I got a sense that there's a lonely person behind the zany guy. His friend described him as someone who could light up the room with his energy, but I got the sense there's real pain inside him too.

Perhaps Cap'n Video was a mask to cover his pain. I guess what I'm saying is the documentary worked for me on many different levels.

rating_4_5

Citizen Rules

01-23-16, 10:05 PM

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Ricki and the Flash (2015)

Director: Jonathan Demme
Writer: Diablo Cody
Cast: Meryl Streep, Kevin Kline, Mamie Gummer
Genre: Drama, light Comedy, Music
Length: 101 minutes
Rating: PG-13

Ricki is an aging musician and free spirit who gave up the security of wealth and her marriage to chase her dream of rock n roll. She sings with a house band in a dingy little bar, her singing career is going nowhere. During the day she works a grueling clerk job just to make ends meet. When her estranged daughter (Mamie Gummer) suffers an emotional breakdown, Ricki returns to her ex husband's home (Kevin Kline). There she's faced with adult children that she's neglected and hasn't seen in years.

Merl Streep looks pretty good in the poster above, huh? Well that's the magic of Photoshop. Don't believe me, how about this photo?

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But there's nothing wrong with Meryl playing her age. In fact I liked her that way. She seemed interesting and looked like a lot of the ex hippie rocker types, with a hard look from hard knocks. Her over done, garish make-up makes her look all the more world-weary. As a comedy, it's not that funny but it has its moments. As a drama it only touches on what could have be an interesting subject. But if you like music, there's a lot of it and Meryl does her own singing too.

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Real life rocker Rick Springfield is the lead guitarist, and main crush of Ricki.

If you like oldies rock, this film is for you. There are several 'live' performances by the band. Rick Springfield has a smaller role but does a good acting job. But who did his make up? look at his eye shadow, Good grief!

If Streep or Springfield isn't your cup of tea, there's veteran comic-drama actor Kevin Kline. He plays the same character that he does in most of his movies...but he's darn good at playing that type of guy.

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Kevin Kline plays the ex-husband and father of Julie (Mamie Gummer), who's Meryl Streeps real life daughter. She looks like her mom too.

Ricki and The Flash is a light weight comedy with a dose of semi serious drama thrown in. It's not great, but it's not all that bad either. Meryl Streep looked like she was having a boat load of fun!

rating_3

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Citizen Rules

01-27-16, 03:29 PM

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https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Faclementsillustration.files.wordpress.com%2F2016%2F01%2Fscreen-shot-2016-01-27-at-14-20-50.png&f=1&nofb=1The Revenant (2015)
Director: Alejandro Iñárritu
Cast: Leonardo DiCaprio, Tom Hardy, Will Poulter
Genre: Outdoor Adventure Thriller

Brief Synopsis (spoiler free): In 1823 a group of rugged frontiersmen are on a fur trapping expedition into the uncharted wilderness of the Dakotas. They come under attack by hostile Native American Indians. After fleeing for their lives, the frontiersmen attempt to make their way back to safety to a distant fort. On the way back one of them is attacked by a bear. That one lone frontiersman must then fight for survival in the dead of winter.

My Thoughts: What an exciting movie! Even though it's 2.5 hours long, the time flies by. This is very well made with stunning on-location filming. The movie really looks great...the cold, bleak wilderness never looked more inhospitable. The cinematography and locations alone make this film worth watching.

Leonardo DiCaprio is of course the star of the film and gives one helluva fine performance here. Some of the things he has to do to survive must be seen to be believed. And this is where the adventure-thriller excitement comes from, the need to survive at all cost.

Tom Hardy plays the heavy, a really bad guy that makes the story line possible. What impressed me was his fine acting and especially the way he delivered his lines. He spoke like an uneducated mountain man would, which made me believe his character was real. That says a lot about his acting ability.

Authenticity I of course wasn't around in the 1820's, but I totally believed that this is how frontier mountain men looked and acted. The movie seems believable in the actions these men take and even in the way they look and talk.

What I would have liked was more about the men themselves. Because the movie is very heavy on action, we never really get to learn about who these men are, or what their back story is. Had that been done, I would be giving this a very high rating indeed. Still there's a lot to like here in this fine, adventure film.

rating_3_5+

Citizen Rules

01-27-16, 10:07 PM

Hmmm....maybe more pictures would help:cool:

gbgoodies

01-27-16, 10:11 PM

I'm planning to watch The Revenant soon because of all the Oscar buzz surrounding it, but TBH, I'm not really looking forward to it. It doesn't sound like my kind of movie, and I've read that it's very graphic, (probably too graphic for me).

Citizen Rules

01-27-16, 10:19 PM

gbgoodies

01-27-16, 10:26 PM

Gee, I don't know how to answer that?... is it graphic? Um, somewhat, but not really, at least not in a gory way for the sake of gore. It does have the infamous bear attack scene and a horse scene, but both are CG...but gory yes. After the movie was over I made the joke that the Humane Society is going to have to have a special branch to make sure no CG animals suffered:cool:

BTW, I'm trying to watch some of the 2015 movies too, so I can send in my ballot to Usual Suspect.

It wasn't really a question because I heard that it's very graphic. I already know about the bear attack scene and the horse scene, and I'll try to look away during those scenes. I know that it's CG, but that doesn't really make it any better. If it's done well, it will feel real. So it doesn't give me much hope for how much I'll actually like the movie. :shrug: