Gary Busey Goes Mental On Celebrity Big Brother

[The Sci-Fi Slob]

Here's the story. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2731936/Gary-Busey-monitored-24-hours-day-bosses-displaying-erratic-behaviour-Celebrity-Big-Brother.html)
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[TONGO]

Gary Busey and Ozzy Osbourne should make a reality show together. They would be a nightmare for the shows subtitle maker. Aside from Buseys motorcycle crash, there is obvious structural damage to each of their brains.

[honeykid]

Even if I was able to watch stuff like this without wanting to gouge my eyes out of my head, seeing people like Busey on them is beyond cringing for me. I don't even watch talkshows anymore.

[jiraffejustin]

"Going" mental implies that he wasn't already there.

[Nausicaä]

Yep, he shouldn't even be in this series in the first place... have no idea how he got by the so called 'psych' tests they do...

[Sexy Celebrity]

Why would Patrick Swayze's ghost "pass through him?" Is Gary Busey a toll booth for spirits going to the other side?

:busey::whoopi:

[VFN]

"Going" mental implies that he wasn't already there.

Exactly. "Gary Busey Goes Mental" is redundant.

[Godoggo]

The man has extensive brain damage. I hate how celebrity reality shows use him to gain ratings because he's a loose canon and will do and say crazy things. I feel like he's made out to be a joke. Use all those other celebrities that will say and do dumb things and don't have brain damage.

[Sexy Celebrity]

The man has extensive brain damage. I hate how celebrity reality shows use him to gain ratings because he's a loose canon and will do and say crazy things. I feel like he's made out to be a joke. Use all those other celebrities that will say and do dumb things and don't have brain damage.

I think it's fascinating to observe it. He's probably stayed famous thanks to the brain damage. He could have just disappeared. That's his fate now for the rest of his life. If Jake Gyllenhaal got brain damaged, I'd be interested in seeing how he lives with it, too. To me, stupid people who aren't brain damaged are worse to watch. At least with real brain damaged people, there can be a sympathetic factor that adds to their charm. If you've got it, flaunt it. That includes brain damage and how much fun it may make you appear. I hate the idea of victimizing people like this and saying they just need to stay out of the public eye in order to keep their "feelings from being hurt." At least this way, they're a part of the world, they're a part of the culture. It's why we have TV shows featuring all the little people, like Little People, Big World -- exposure is the key to acceptance, not hiding things. It's like with gay people -- people say the Hollywood character in Mannequin was a horrible stereotype. Well, characters like Hollywood paved the way for more gay appearances and the level of acceptance there is for gays today.

[Godoggo]

I don't see how not feeling like putting someone on a show to boost their ratings because people like to laugh at their antics is patronizing them or victimizing them, but you go right on ahead and doing this to every single on of my posts.

Where in the hell did I say that he should stay out of public eye?

By the way, thanks for taking my bait and proving me right. ;)

[Sexy Celebrity]

I don't see how not feeling like putting someone on a show to boost their ratings because people like to laugh at their antics is patronizing them or victimizing them, but you go right on ahead and doing this to every single on of my posts.

Where in the hell did I say that he should stay out of public eye?

You said you didn't want him exploited on reality TV shows. That's a way of keeping Gary Busey in the public eye. If he wasn't on these shows (because you think they shouldn't humiliate him for having brain damage), he'd be out of the public eye in that regard. You were basically saying Gary Busey ought to not do any of these things because it's embarrassing for him. I think that's treating him like a victim.

[Godoggo]

You saying I'm making him out to be a victim over and over again doesn't make it true. How? How does thinking that a show is wrong to put someone on to be laughed at and ridiculed equate victimization?

You're answer is because otherwise he wouldn't be in the public eye? I think every single one of those "celebrities" would be better off being out of the public eye than being on those shows. Most people don't watch to respect and admire them. The producers want people who are prone to messiness and bad behavior. So yeah, I think it's a little unethical to put people with brain damage, drug addictions or things of that nature for the sake of entertainment.

I've watched one season of the show but when I thought about how Tara Reid looked on that show and how much she got made fun of and what that must of been like for her I felt a little gross for watching it.

These shows exploit people. I think it is a little grosser to do that to a person who can have a hard time functioning socially in this world and put him in an extreme social situation. No, I don't think these people are victims because they could all say no, Busey included. That doesn't make it right. Just because I can take advantage of someone doesn't mean I should.

By the way, Busey is still acting. He was a good actor in the day and still has it in him. So if I don't want to see some man who had a lot of talent and hopefully will be remembered for that and not some "crazy kook" makes me turn him into a victim so be it, but I actually think you're being more patronizing than I am assuming that he would need to be on a reality show to have any sort of work at all

[Sexy Celebrity]

You saying I'm making him out to be a victim over and over again doesn't make it true. How? How does thinking that a show is wrong to put someone on to be laughed at and ridiculed equate victimization?

I think it's kind of victimizing to say that people like him -- as well as anyone with any kind of physical or mental difference -- shouldn't do these shows because they're only making fools out of them. I think that true empowerment comes when folks like this can do these things, take the abuse, let it roll off their back and not feel victimized because they took part in such a thing. He is really no different than a fat person going on a reality show and risking being made fun of for being fat. If they can do it, he can do it.

You're answer is because otherwise he wouldn't be in the public eye?

No. I said this is a way for Gary Busey to be in the public eye, not the only way he can be, but it's a decent way. Sure, Big Brother is probably going to be humiliating for you, but Big Brother is humiliating for everybody who does it, even regular people. Especially regular people. People without problems go on these shows and get picked on to death by the viewers. Gary Busey doesn't need special protection because he's got brain damage. He may even enjoy the attention / probably does. There's a lot of people who watch Gary Busey and feel sympathetic at the same time, like you, I imagine. That's good, especially compared to the humiliation and laughter he will receive. But those things don't mean he needs to be treated differently like anyone else and just stay off the show.

I think every single one of those "celebrities" would be better off being out of the public eye than being on those shows. Most people don't watch to respect and admire them. The producers want people who are prone to messiness and bad behavior. So yeah, I think it's a little unethical to put people with brain damage, drug addictions or things of that nature for the sake of entertainment.

My concern for these people is what happens in their future after they've done these shows and if it turns out to be a big regret. But still, I don't think that's reason enough to stop it. I think there's actually a lot of people who do admire people with bad behavior and messiness and drug addictions/alcohol addictions and so on. I think a lot of our fascination with people like Charlie Sheen, Lindsay Lohan, etc. -- is more out of love than disgust/hate. I used to love talk shows, especially back in the '90s, because all these freaky people would be on them. Transsexuals, drag queens, goths, crazy people, etc. Although it's common to think of these people as "trash" -- I saw them as basically celebrities in their own right. Television turns ordinary people into something divine, I feel, with these programs. There is a sense of a celebration of the human spirit. So, to me, Gary Busey is simply another expression of that. This is why people like Powderfinger never bothered me. Yoda used to say to me, "Don't you feel like he's exploiting himself?" I never did because to me Powderfinger was just expressing who he was. And to me, that's no different than myself expressing who I am on here. I don't want to feel lessened by feeling like I'm embarrassing myself or something. I want to be proud of who I am, I want to say to everyone that I have already earned my right to belong and be accepted.

I've watched one season of the show but when I thought about how Tara Reid looked on that show and how much she got made fun of and what that must of been like for her I felt a little gross for watching it.

I think Tara Reid's comfortable with herself. I mean, she does the Sharknado movies. Those things really hit it off and now everyone loves her. It can be painful to put yourself out there at first, but that's the only way you can become a legend. Legends are those who stood out for some reason.

These shows exploit people. I think it is a little grosser to do that to a person who can have a hard time functioning socially in this world and put him in an extreme social situation. No, I don't think these people are victims because they could all say no, Busey included. That doesn't make it right. Just because I can take advantage of someone doesn't mean I should.

It just seems worse to me to try to keep them off the shows. They may be looking to do these shows as a way to embrace society. A way of coming out into the world. Like, that woman who played the fat mother in What's Eating Gilbert Grape -- she was discovered on the Sally Jesse Raphael show. It's on Youtube (or was, at least). She had been housebound for YEARS and finally they got her on Sally Jesse. After that, she was appearing in a movie with Johnny Depp and Leonardo DiCaprio.

By the way, Busey is still acting. He was a good actor in the day and still has it in him. So if I don't want to see some man who had a lot of talent and hopefully will be remembered for that and not some "crazy kook" makes me turn him into a victim so be it, but I actually think you're being more patronizing than I am assuming that he would need to be on a reality show to have any sort of work at all

No, I'm not saying at all that this is the only kind of work he can get. I don't even look at these people who do Celebrity Big Brother and think "washed up." Sure, SOMETIMES I do. Sometimes I'll make a cutting comment about them. But I really don't think it's the end of the road for them. It might not be the prettiest road they could be on, but it's a road.

[Godoggo]

I think Tara Reid's comfortable with herself. I mean, she does the Sharknado movies. Those things really hit it off and now everyone loves her. It can be painful to put yourself out there at first, but that's the only way you can become a legend. Legends are those who stood out for some reason.

I don't know how Tara Reid feels about herself or really what you're talking about. I know what I read about her experience on Celebrity Big Brother. It wasn't good. She very much regretted doing it.

I don't really get the other stuff you're going on about.

It's different if someone like Melissa McCarthy and Rebel Wilson are on a show and people call them far and say horrible things or designers won't make dresses for them than them going on a show where the producers are specifically wanting people to judge them for their weight. They are going to be judged anyway because people are super critical and harsh towards overweight female actors especially, but they are not on a show where that is being encouraged.

I find your train of thought confusing and I find it difficult to have a conversation with you because you do a lot of speculating to make your point.

You don't know that people come off these shows feeling empowered. I'm not really interested if Gary Busey likes the attention or not. Lots of people do a lot of attention seeking behaviors that aren't really good for them in the long run.

You're still not addressing exactly how my position is patronizing. Busey has a lot of erratic behaviors and can be pretty social awkward and some of that has to do with his brain damage. Those erratic behaviors and social ineptness are why reality shows cast him. That doesn't sit well with me. They know he is going to be a mess cause a lot of drama and come off as a kook. You call it me victimizing him, but I call it exploitation.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I don't know how Tara Reid feels about herself or really what you're talking about. I know what I read about her experience on Celebrity Big Brother. It wasn't good. She very much regretted doing it.

I don't follow Tara Reid. If she regrets it, that's too bad. I've never really seen the Celebrity version of Big Brother. I used to wish the US would do it, but I imagine it would mostly be celebrities I've never heard of/don't care for, so I'm content with unknown people. I'm currently watching the live feeds of our Big Brother 16 when I get a chance, which is something I've never done before for that show. It is so much better watching that than the actual show.

It's different if someone like Melissa McCarthy and Rebel Wilson are on a show and people call them fat and say horrible things or designers won't make dresses for them than them going on a show where the producers are specifically wanting people to judge them for their weight. They are going to be judged anyway because people are super critical and harsh towards overweight female actors especially, but they are not on a show where that is being encouraged.

People who make a living out of trashing people are nasty, definitely, especially when it's not even in some kind of comedic spirit -- although, I really don't see all this "everyone's calling these people fat" stuff constantly. To me, it seems like it's lessened. I mean, I was watching an episode of The Golden Girls on Youtube awhile back - an episode where Blanche's daughter comes to visit and they all notice she's gained a ton of weight. It was probably the first episode of that show that got me into the show -- the Sophia character starts making all kinds of fat jokes. HILARIOUS stuff for me when I was younger. I still think it's funny. But every comment from people on Youtube was, "This show is horrible. I can't believe these fat jokes. Disgusting." To me, it seems like a current generation thing -- since everyone's against bullying so much now. I don't know how it was for you growing up, but I didn't grow up hearing so much disdain for fat jokes and stuff. For me, it was just everywhere. I myself constantly made fat jokes and I still approve of them. I don't believe in torturing people and purposely trying to drive people to tears or suicide with jokes, but jokes that are kind of like -- a sport -- something to have fun with, without necessarily trying to be mean and hurtful -- I go for those.

The problem isn't exactly what's being said, I feel. The problem is that a lot of people are just really mean and rude to a degree that's not what I feel is normal. And on another side, a lot of people are also offended too easily. To me, obesity and anything else is a fact of life that you just have to deal with. People are gonna be fat. No matter how much Michelle Obama tries to fight it off. People are going to make comments about it, as they will with anything, even if you're attractive, because people are observing what's in front of them and it is something to talk about. You are constantly on display in life. Every day, people look at you. People judge you. People have feelings about you. I believe it's just being human. It is an automatic, normal thing that cannot ever go away. People think so much can be eradicated. People think bullying can go away forever everywhere, people think there can be world peace. I say - no. There can't be. Something is going to affect somebody. Someone is not going to like something. Someone will speak up about it.

I find your train of thought confusing and I find it difficult to have a conversation with you because you do a lot of speculating to make your point.

*shrugs* I understand.

You don't know that people come off these shows feeling empowered. I'm not really interested if Gary Busey likes the attention or not. Lots of people do a lot of attention seeking behaviors that aren't really good for them in the long run.

They may not all feel empowered, but I think they all do empowering things. Even the bad people. It's truly something to even get on these shows, especially if you're not famous to begin with. Something about these people interested the casting agents and such. They had something other people at the time did not. Gary Busey is even important right now for some reason for making it on the show. Everything kind of has a reason for happening.

You're still not addressing exactly how my position is patronizing. Busey has a lot of erratic behaviors and can be pretty social awkward and some of that has to do with his brain damage. Those erratic behaviors and social ineptness are why reality shows cast him. That doesn't sit well with me. They know he is going to be a mess cause a lot of drama and come off as a kook. You call it me victimizing him, but I call it exploitation.

I think that seeing it as exploitation is just, like, a particular outlook you can be taught to have. But it doesn't really represent the truth all the time. There's so much in life that really could be thought of as exploitation if you really wanted to assign it that. Being forced to go to school, being forced to work to make a living -- I was socially awkward in school and didn't want to be there. Why isn't it exploitation that I was forced to attend school, where everyone bullied me all the time? This is Gary Busey making a decision to actually be on this show. The risk is more with the production team of Celebrity Big Brother, who have to deal with a mental guy in their house. That's like renting an uncaged lion for a birthday party. It's not exploitation to bring the lion in, but if the lion starts attacking everybody, you should have known you were the one who brought in a lion. So, if they feel comfortable with bringing in the lion that is Gary Busey, that's them. But I don't think it's exploitation. It's a television show. They're trying to entertain people. They have to get certain things that people find entertaining. But doesn't mean it's so wrong. If you like monkeys, watch a nature channel and look at monkeys. If you like crazy people, watch a reality show. It depends on what you want to look at, what you want to observe, what you want to see in the world that's out there. Some people like to look at Gary Busey and his mental issues. I understand. The world is a zoo. But the zoo is not a prison. The zoo is a place to go see something you can't find easily.

[christine]

A zoo is a place where the public go to gawp at animals, it is a prison for the animals, they can't leave they're locked away.
Celebrity Big Brother is the modern day equivalent of the old days travelling freak show. Needy people ( emotionally and/or financially) managed to the nth degree by clever programme makers. Full of chancers who happen to be having a 5 minute headline that month/out of favour comedians/failed soap actors/ people trawled out of rubbish documentaries because of their provocative personalities/people obsessed with fame. People promised things like their issues will be aired and the general public will magically be more accepting and understanding.
Mix that lot up with a few people very deliberately chosen for their unpredictable mental state, then coop them up and wait for the nastiness to begin.

What started out as a mixture of people from all walks of life in the original non celebrity BB , has developed into a programme that exploits the vulnerable. Just cos they have some measure (and microscopic in some cases) of fame doesn't make people immune from being hurt. Yes they have the choice whether to go on their or not, but I'm willing to bet there's pressure from agents and promises of further tv that turns out to be more rubbish. There's enough crap on TV already without this too

[Sexy Celebrity]

A zoo is a place where the public go to gawp at animals, it is a prison for the animals, they can't leave they're locked away.
Celebrity Big Brother is the modern day equivalent of the old days travelling freak show. Needy people ( emotionally and/or financially) managed to the nth degree by clever programme makers. Full of chancers who happen to be having a 5 minute headline that month/out of favour comedians/failed soap actors/ people trawled out of rubbish documentaries because of their provocative personalities/people obsessed with fame. People promised things like their issues will be aired and the general public will magically be more accepting and understanding.
Mix that lot up with a few people very deliberately chosen for their unpredictable mental state, then coop them up and wait for the nastiness to begin.

What started out as a mixture of people from all walks of life in the original non celebrity BB , has developed into a programme that exploits the vulnerable. Just cos they have some measure (and microscopic in some cases) of fame doesn't make people immune from being hurt. Yes they have the choice whether to go on their or not, but I'm willing to bet there's pressure from agents and promises of further tv that turns out to be more rubbish. There's enough crap on TV already without this too

These people are not victims. They are not animals. They are not the same thing as circus freaks.

These people are aware of what they're getting into. Some of them may be more messed up than others, but I don't care. Big Brother is not a zoo and a zoo is not a prison. It is a place where people can go and see animals they can't normally see around them. Zoos are protective and nurturing and they are fascinating exhibits containing creatures who are not rational human beings like us that are not as smart as us.

If these people get hurt by the experience of being on Big Brother, too bad. It's what they agreed to do and what they were contractually supposed to do. Don't do another Big Brother if the experience isn't good. But I doubt that the experience is bad for everybody. I have not seen Celebrity Big Brother, but I have heard of some people who've done it and they don't seem messed up right now because of it to me.

[Daniel M]

It actually makes me sick to watch the show and see this. I normally watch Big Brother, but haven't really done so with this series apart from a couple of hours in the background as my mum watches it, but what I have seen with Gary Busey has absolutely disgusted me. The man has survived brain surgery and is clearly damaged so acts and talks impulsively and erratically and he also had a golf ball sized cancer tumour removed! He is clearly disabled in some way, and the way that the fellow housemates treat him is sickening, the act as if he is some sort of monster and are too concerned with their own egos that that have shown no compassion or understanding for his condition, and they way they speak to him is vile.

That Leslie bloke is one of the most disgusting human beings I have ever seen, and the way he treated him was especially bad, all Gary did was mention how he thought he got the definition for 'CGI' wrong and the bloke goes off on him, calling him a monster and shouting in his face, asking him what his three year old son thinks of him, absolutely vile. Then he forces a visibly scared and crying man to go and sleep outside in the cold.

It's disgusting how Big Borther even put him in there and want to cause arguments and make us laugh at the expense of him and his disability, how can anyone find him offensive or funny to watch is beyond me, I find it highly disturbing and hard to comprehend how fellow humans are bullying him, it's his decision if he wants to go in there or not, but sometimes I wish he wasn't.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Do you mean Leslie Jordan? That gay actor? I heard he was going in the Celebrity Big Brother house. I like Leslie Jordan from what I know him from.

Well, I have never seen an episode of Celebrity Big Brother. That sounds kind of sad for Gary Busey from what you're saying. But still... I don't think comparing Big Brother to a zoo is really right. And if it is, well, I'm sure that's part of the appeal for Big Brother. I love the USA version of Big Brother. Even when it gets nasty. Maybe it's nastier over there in the UK being that it's the UK. I'll have to view an episode of this Celebrity Big Brother with Gary Busey. I haven't actually seen anything yet.

[Sexy Celebrity]

OMG. A Leslie Jordan/Gary Busey feud. This does sound really exciting !!

[Daniel M]

it is nasty. I don't understand how the others can't comprehend that Gary is disabled so some of the things he says/does can be a little offensive/erratic, they show no understanding and jump on him immediately.

[Sexy Celebrity]

it is nasty. I don't understand how the others can't comprehend that Gary is disabled so some of the things he says/does can be a little offensive/erratic, they show no understanding and jump on him immediately.

Because people think everybody is always so damned responsible for everything that they say or do. Even if they're disabled, mentally challenged, mentally defective, brain damaged, whatever. Even if they're not. Everything is always your fault. However, if you're like me, you remember that there's no free will and our actions and what we do and say is first determined unconsciously in the brain before we act/speak -- we perform whatever our brain computes for us and it feels like a choice, but it really isn't. People don't realize this. It's probably going to take a long time before the majority of people start really accepting this. Maybe it'll never be accepted everywhere. But that's what's going on and people don't realize this about people. Not that everything deserves to be excused because of this -- I don't excuse murderers, for example. But a crazy guy acting funny in the Big Brother House can't help it. He's not hurting ya. Might be irritating you, but they need to be less irritated.

So, you see, Gary Busey getting treated badly on a reality show is actually a good thing. It's got us talking about how bad it is to pick on people like him. You can learn from this.

[Daniel M]

You are right there, especially where you say its not hurting them, I don't know why they take some of the things so personally when he clearly isn't in control of what he is saying. And I have read a lot of people who have been talking about bullying too, Gary is probably coming off best.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Gary Busey WON!

I was just thinking about him and this show again and wondering if he might actually win it -- HE DID!

Gary Busey Becomes First America To Win "Celebrity Big Brother" (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/celebrity-big-brother-gary-busey-732677)

[The Rodent]

He may have won... but the footage shows he had no idea what was going on around him.


Fallen idol. Busey is as mad as a Hatter.

[Jack1]

He may have won... but the footage shows he had no idea what was going on around him.


Fallen idol. Busey is as mad as a Hatter.
I read that as "Busey is as mad as Hitler" and thought you were overreacting a tad...

[Sexy Celebrity]

He may have won... but the footage shows he had no idea what was going on around him.

Fallen idol. Busey is as mad as a Hatter.

Oh, you're such a crybaby. At least he won.

[Daniel M]

He may have won... but the footage shows he had no idea what was going on around him.


Fallen idol. Busey is as mad as a Hatter.

He's clearly disabled though. And I wouldn't say that he had no idea, he was aware and in control for most the part even with limited hearing, memory and him acting impulsively at times.

The fact the British public showed more compassion than every single housemate (bar Audley Harrison) makes me quite happy.

[Sexy Celebrity]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A0_qp53HOQ

He seems decent in this interview he did for Joan Rivers last year.

DECENT. Not alright. Decent.

[Swan]

Sexy, change your avatar. It terrifies me.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Sexy, change your avatar. It terrifies me.

Oh, thanks. I finally found something good, then.