View Full Version : Why do you hate/love rap music?
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 05:49 AM
Personally, I love a whole lot of rap. I also hate a whole lot of rap. There's so much rap that should be rightfully hated, and a lot of it is what gets played the most. This is unfortunate because it paints an inaccurate picture of the genre as a whole for those who don't really know what is out there to be discovered. Then there is the rap that is good, but is a little too much for some. It's the equivalent of too much gore in a horror film. It's usually not a valid criticism, but a reflection of sensitivity in the person taking it in. The difference is that in this situation rap is slated for vulgarity, misogyny, and for promoting "negative" behavior such as drug use, violence, alcoholism, and sex. I don't really understand those criticisms, but that's probably because I can separate art from reality. I understand that these rappers aren't really promoting this behavior, usually, but painting us a picture of their reality or their fantasies. The same thing is done in films all the time, films that the people who say these things adore.
These are my 4:00 a.m. ramblings. I'd love to hear what other people have to say on the subject.
Well let's start with people saying rap promotes violence,drug use...That is idiotic,if you are mentally stable person you won't go and kill someone because you heard it in a song,you won't use drugs because you saw it on TV ...When I listened Eminem: 3AM I didn't have need to kill someone.But I can handle even that kind of critics,they are wrong but I can go over it.There is one kind of critics I openly think are stupid,not ignorant,not pretending just stupid,simple as that...Parents! and all groups "protecting" children,now days kids are protected from every thing,there is no need for 90% of that...Why should any rap artist change his lyrics because of kids?He is not making his music for the kids...Now when we got that out of the way I can talk about Rap as art form. :)
Some of my favorite artists are:Eminem,Dr.Dre,Jay Z,50 Cent,Wu Tang Clan,Ice Cube...There is more but these guys are at the top.Only after listening to rap you can notice how bad lyrics from other genres are(compared to rap). It's best genre for telling a story,its only genre of music I'm following and listening all the time.I agree on that part about some songs being to much for some people,everyone likes different things,my friend for example can listen Mockingbird and When I'm Gone for a very long time while he can't listen to Cleanin' Out My Closet because he finds it...To slimy? Yea I think that is the word . :D
Also I fear what will happen after old school stops making music...Who will come after them Lil Wayne? Pfff...
I love good rap. I've been listening to so much good rap lately that I forgot there was bad rap. :laugh:
Miss Vicky
08-20-14, 11:11 AM
Rap is too graphic for my tastes. For whatever reason, I enjoy watching sex and violence in films or even reading about it in print, but I don't appreciate hearing it in my music. Well, a bit of sex in the music is fine, but I don't want to hear graphic descriptions about what is happening. Singing about sex in a more metaphorical way is fine. Also the lyrics to a lot of the more popular rap songs involve boasting about how much money or jewels or cars or whatever the particular rapper has - it's not exactly a subject I can relate to. I much prefer songs with more universal themes like love or loneliness.
On top of that, I usually prefer music that is guitar based and has a sort of more organic sound to it, if that makes sense.
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 11:52 AM
Miss Vicky you should try The Roots, they are the antithesis of all the things you dislike about the genre.
Rap is too graphic for my tastes. For whatever reason, I enjoy watching sex and violence in films or even reading about it in print, but I don't appreciate hearing it in my music. Well, a bit of sex in the music is fine, but I don't want to hear graphic descriptions about what is happening. Singing about sex in a more metaphorical way is fine. Also the lyrics to a lot of the more popular rap songs involve boasting about how much money or jewels or cars or whatever the particular rapper has - it's not exactly a subject I can relate to. I much prefer songs with more universal themes like love or loneliness.
On top of that, I usually prefer music that is guitar based and has a sort of more organic sound to it, if that makes sense.
Shows how little you know about "rap". Hip hop isn't all about sex and violence. It's also about oppression, racism, and social dynamics that are as relevant to your life as your personal desires. Look up "conscious hip hop" - Conscious Hip Hop is a term applied to Hip Hop artists whose lyrics deal with social issues. It has parallels with Political Hip Hop, although its focus is extended to topics such as religion, African American culture, everyday life and the state of Hip Hop itself.
Furthermore, you have yet to explain this paradox - not only would you rather watch sex and violence in film, but you also take pleasure in living vicariously off them.
WSSlover
08-20-14, 12:02 PM
While I don't absolutely hate Rap Music, yet I don't like it much, either. Some of it can be too graphic, that's true, but one of the biggest, if not the biggest problem(s) with Rap Music is that, while it expresses the emotions/problems of human beings, it makes no effort whatsoever to get at the causes of these strong emotions and problems. Rap Music could be a little more interesting if it did get at the causes of these problems and emotions.
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 12:05 PM
While I don't absolutely hate Rap Music, yet I don't like it much, either. Some of it can be too graphic, that's true, but one of the biggest, if not the biggest problem(s) with Rap Music is that, while it expresses the emotions/problems of human beings, it makes no effort whatsoever to get at the causes of these strong emotions and problems. Rap Music could be a little more interesting if it did get at the causes of these problems and emotions.
I am not entirely sure what you mean by "getting at the causes." Can you give me an example?
Mr Minio
08-20-14, 12:19 PM
I don't like most rap music. Especially Polish rap. There are some exceptions... namely Kno and Cunninlynguists
I think we all realize that rap is about lots of things. But let's be clear: compared to any other genre, it is disproportionately about sex and violence. Not all of it, and not all the time, just a lot more often than pretty much any other type of music, and probably by a wide margin.
This doesn't automatically convert people into homicidal nymphomaniacs, but it's also not completely harmless, so I think it's a perfectly valid critique of the genre.
You have to realize that those who enjoy listening to rap music are no more "homicidal" than those who enjoy movies. And who says movies do not have a copious amount of violence in them?
But the analog for "movies" is "music." The analog for "rap music" here is "violent movies." And if someone said they didn't like movies that glamorize violence, I think that'd be entirely reasonable, too.
I think we all realize that rap is about lots of things. But let's be clear: compared to any other genre, it is disproportionately about sex and violence. Not all of it, and not all the time, just a lot more often than pretty much any other type of music, and probably by a wide margin.
This doesn't automatically convert people into homicidal nymphomaniacs, but it's also not completely harmless, so I think it's a perfectly valid critique of the genre.
A lot of hard rock is about sex and drugs too, but not all of it is.
I think the rap that boasts sex and drugs and partying gives rap a really bad name. There is so much good rap out there with really talented lyricists who talk about other stuff.
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 12:36 PM
De La Soul. Everybody please listen to De La Soul and then come back into this thread. Let's talk some more about rap after that. If we are comparing rap to violent movies, then De La is Pixar.
linespalsy
08-20-14, 12:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svw1b--jKCE
Miss Vicky
08-20-14, 01:28 PM
Shows how little you know about "rap". Hip hop isn't all about sex and violence.
Obviously I was speaking only about the rap I've actually heard. I never claimed to be an expert on the subject.
It's also about oppression, racism, and social dynamics that are as relevant to your life as your personal desires.
Somehow I don't see those subjects as being all that relevant to my white-washed suburban life, quite frankly.
Furthermore, you have yet to explain this paradox - not only would you rather watch sex and violence in film, but you also take pleasure in living vicariously off them.
I haven't explained it because I can't explain it. Hence the use of the phrase "for whatever reason."
Yoda,I think this is first time we don't have same or similar opinion on something.How can music harm you and make you do something bad?Again if you are mentally stable you will not go and kill someone because someone said so,same goes for movies.If someone is not fan of rap because they don't love genre for whatever reason that is ok with me,but don't putt reasons that are not there.In words of Ice Cube,Gangsta Rap made me do it.Also NWA was violent,but did they lie?Nop,they told the truth,they had violent lyrics but they were lyrics about their daily life and life of many more.I think I'll post few different songs for different genres of rap and different artists.Maybe someone will notice something they like.Best rap artists mostly sing about social problems and that is my point,music today is being more and more idiotic,rap is first on that line of getting destroyed by idiots(Lil Wayne and friends)...When someone asks me do I listen to rap I say yes and they go on to talk about Drake and I'm like nonononon...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wYNFfgrXTI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4hAVemuQXY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ9_TKayu9s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQZPXjX181A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9klnhyVe0ns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EWruiIjBmo man explained what is happening to rap.
There is more but yea...Its enough for now. :) When someone mentions rap to you guys first thing that comes to you is,some black guys talking how they will murder someone,but its not like that...Rap can be more complex than anything else in music.
Yoda,I think this is first time we don't have same or similar opinion on something.How can music harm you and make you do something bad?
It doesn't, in the same way having a rough childhood doesn't make you commit a crime or have problems with substance abuse. But it becomes dramatically more likely. Just because things don't force us to do something else doesn't mean they have no effect.
I don't think anyone can listen to anything repeatedly--rap, rock, famous speeches, hate speech, whatever--without it changing them. And when the thing being listened to is explicit, it inevitably desensitizes us to it. Maybe you think that's bad, or not, but it's not nothing.
I think part of the problem here is that some of us are talking about the whole genre (which is rife with explicit, offensive language), and others are just talking about the more thoughtful examples in the genre they like. But I don't think anyone needs to be reminded that there are exceptions. I think that's pretty well understood.
Ok,I see your point and its true it has effect but that effect goes as far as calling girl bitch etc,it won't make you kill someone.I'm not saying my example was a good change but its not huge change,you won't kill someone.Also what I want to say is,people have every day problems,kids get beaten up in school,people are poor,no food etc and when some of them do something there is a lonely mom to say its because of gangsta rap(or even rap overall).I personally don't listen rap music that talks about how you killed someone or something like that but there is a big difference between praising crime and talking about how crime is part of every day life.I'll use Ice Cube as example again and that song Everythang's Corrupt,he talks about crime and violence but he is not telling you to do it or saying its good,just other way around.Rap is great weapon for telling a story.I hope you understand what I want to say. :)
EDIT: Real gangsta rap is talking about problems with crime not praising crime,in every genre majority of artists don't know what are they doing.
Yeah, I dig. Not all songs about those things are necessarily treating them lightly or glamorizing them.
It's always difficult to talk about the culture at large, because while we wan't point to any one thing as the cause of our collective problems, it seems undeniable that they all work together to coarsen and desensitize us. And there's no way to point that out without it sounding like all the problems of a society are being laid at one factor's feet.
Cobpyth
08-20-14, 03:20 PM
I think the majority of rap music (that I've been exposed to in my life) is - for lack of a better expression - a load of crap.
There's good stuff in every genre of course, so I never completely write off something as large and wide as a music genre, but in general, I think most rap songs are not interesting at all, both music-wise and content-wise (even rappers that most people consider "quality rappers" are for the most part still pretty shallow and unconvincing, in my opinion). I find that to be true with a lot of modern mainstream music, though, so maybe it's also just part of our 'zeitgeist' (or my personal preferences).
Furthermore, there's no question that music, movies, etc. can influence people's behavior. Anyone who denies that is blind and deaf.
Whether it's a moral obligation for the artist to only make something that inspires "good" is a whole different discussion of course, not in the least because "good" is a very abstract term for most people.
Just to not completely seem like a hater, here's a famous rap song that I do really like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOMhN-hfMtY
The rap is combined with a soft, female singing voice (Dido) and it tells an interesting story about society's obsession with celebrities and the weight it has on both "the fan" (Stan) and the artist (Slim).
The music is atmospheric, the lyrics are telling an engaging story and the video clip is also quite cool, I think.
What did you listen mate? xD
Sorry but I always need to defend rap because in most of time people didn't listen real rap,they heard some **** song and they think that's it.Here is second part of Stan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71xeMTazmMo
My dad (who doesn't like rap music) made a good comparison of rap music to performance poetry (think the spoken word stuff in cafes and whatnot). One of the things I love about good rap is the lyrics. There are a lot of non-rap lyricists I love too - Robyn Hitchcock, Tom waits, for example. But if there is a strong point in rap, it's the poetry of the words.
Sadly, most people who hate rap are exposed to the sh*t of the genre, which is really unfortunate.
Derek Vinyard
08-20-14, 04:39 PM
I love ''Good Rap'' with skills and emotions and great lyrics .... ex: Eminem , Mike Shinoda , Coolio , etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zagQpB_c0M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1xXYeNrW9k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4Uv_4jGgAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc9pi6MNdhc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLbuUQ-RNGg
I Love this kind of rap !! and I also very love ''Linkin Park'' who is a band with a combination of rap and Rock it's awesome ! :)
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 04:43 PM
Too much Eminem in this thread, you guys. I am trying to convince these people that rap isn't bad. You aren't helping. :p :D
Mr Minio
08-20-14, 05:05 PM
Some legit rap:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx9khQXaFpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKanlj4tRE4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHEaBWGp_DQ
As you can see I love a lot of samples. :)
I always loved this song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M104iSE3CI
Maybe it's a guilty pleasure, but lyrics are really good IMO.
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 05:11 PM
Kendrick Lamar - Sing About Me, I'm Dying of Thirst (m.youtube.com/watch?v=1WQV_cULobA)
Incredibly moving song here by Kendrick. He's by far the best lyricist going these days.
Derek Vinyard
08-20-14, 05:25 PM
Kendrick Lamar - Sing About Me, I'm Dying of Thirst (m.youtube.com/watch?v=1WQV_cULobA)
Incredibly moving song here by Kendrick. He's by far the best lyricist going these days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtxmnBQmfZs
the only Kendrick song I actually appreciate ...
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 05:29 PM
the only Kendrick song I actually appreciate ...
How many K.dot songs have you heard? I mean, it's great like all of his other songs, but why is that the only one you appreciate?
Derek Vinyard
08-20-14, 05:30 PM
How many K.dot songs have you heard? I mean, it's great like all of his other songs, but why is that the only one you appreciate?
I don't know ... the beat and the vibe are awesome in this one in my opinion
Kendrick Lamar - Sing About Me, I'm Dying of Thirst (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1WQV_cULobA)
Incredibly moving song here by Kendrick. He's by far the best lyricist going these days.
Agreed. Kendrick is f*cking fantastic.
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 05:34 PM
I don't know ... the beat and the vibe are awesome in this one in my opinion
I agree. I just don't understand why you wouldn't appreciate the rest of his stuff too. And as far as vibes go..."Bitch, Don't Kill My Vibe" the vibe in that song is aptly awesome. Plus the titular bitch doesn't refer to women, for anybody wondering.
Thankfully, the bitch didn't kill his vibe in "Bitch, Don't Kill My Vibe".
Derek Vinyard
08-20-14, 05:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcs5PRxEXq4
Mike Shinoda is the best rapper of our generation :) !
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 05:40 PM
:coleman:
earlsmoviepicks
08-20-14, 05:41 PM
Not a huge fan of rap-- I appreciate the artistry etc, but I prefer a well crafted song on a guitar/or a band better.
Don't forget Riff Raff, who is secretly a musical genius.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxLS-cpgbe0
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 05:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IydP1lUzFWQ
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 05:44 PM
Don't forget Riff Raff, who is secretly a musical genius.
We both had the same idea of presenting rap as something that can be silly fun. The skill level is considerably different though. :D
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 05:45 PM
Not a huge fan of rap-- I appreciate the artistry etc, but I prefer a well crafted song on a guitar/or a band better.
My built in response for this type of answer is try The Roots.
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 05:46 PM
Do you rap JJ?
I freestyle to myself all the time, but dude, I suck major ass.
:laugh: At least you have the balls to try. Rapping is hard. I've never even attempted it. Although today I tried the beginning of the first verse of "Unhappy" by Outkast. I'm embarrassed even admitting it, it was so bad.
Mr Minio
08-20-14, 05:49 PM
Mike Shinoda is the best rapper of our generation :) ! I don't want to belong to this generation, then.
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 05:53 PM
:laugh: At least you have the balls to try. Rapping is hard. I've never even attempted it. Although today I tried the beginning of the first verse of "Unhappy" by Outkast. I'm embarrassed even admitting it, it was so bad.
When I try to freestyle my rhyme scheme is basically aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
honeykid
08-20-14, 05:56 PM
I freestyle to myself all the time, but dude, I suck major ass.
Well, I'm sure he appreciates it. ;):D
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 05:58 PM
Well, I'm sure he appreciates it. ;):D
Major is an adjective, not a title there. :p
Major Ass
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The Sci-Fi Slob
08-20-14, 05:59 PM
Some moron speaking rhythmically fast is not music - it's like recording me while I'm drunk and then selling it.:nope:
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 06:01 PM
Some moron speaking rhythmically fast is not music - it's like recording me while I'm drunk and then selling it.:nope:
The difference is you wouldn't sell a single copy.
Oh but Slayer is music? :rolleyes:
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 06:02 PM
and sometimes it's slow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ-rNtSeVC4
I remember when Tyler was the talk of the town. Now it's all about Earl. Truthfully, Earl is the better rapper.
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 06:06 PM
I remember when Tyler was the talk of the town. Now it's all about Earl. Truthfully, Earl is the better rapper.
I grew tired of Tyler hella fast. The best thing he ever did is his feature on Pusha T's "Trouble On My Mind" and "Oldie"
Mr Minio
08-20-14, 06:07 PM
Some moron speaking rhythmically fast is not music - it's like recording me while I'm drunk and then selling it.:nope: Even Field Recordings is music. And Tuvan Throat Singing.
I grew tired of Tyler hella fast. The best thing he ever did is his feature on Pusha T's "Trouble On My Mind" and "Oldie"
Yeah I was into him when I first discovered him, then got pretty sick of him constantly trying to shock you.
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 06:10 PM
We need to talk about sampling in here. It's one of my favorite things about rap/electronic music.
I love sampling. Costco is a great place to sample stuff.
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 06:13 PM
I love sampling. Costco is a great place to sample stuff.
Bitch, don't kill my vibe... :coleman:
Mr Minio
08-20-14, 06:14 PM
I like most of the rap I like because of the samples, but I always think of it as something the person didn't make himself, but just borrowed (not to say stole) from other artist. That's a weird thing.
The Sci-Fi Slob
08-20-14, 06:15 PM
The difference is you wouldn't sell a single copy.
Well, so what! Don't you see? You're all intelligent people on this forum, and yes I've had a few..maybe too many.. beers, but don't you see that it's all bullsh!t, everything? All of it a facade, the elite get richer, you struggle, and you imagine that you have achieved something by grabbing the scraps from their tables. There is a reason why the majority have everything and the minority have nothing; it isn't fate - it is social engineering. But I'm just drunk..so nevermind..:cool:
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 06:17 PM
Damn, dude. I was wrong, say sh*t like that and make it rhyme and you could probably hop on a track with Immortal Technique.
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 06:18 PM
But back on sampling: I see it as making art with art. It's cool to me. It's also a way to discover music, as a lot of these guys sample songs they really like. Often times it's obscure songs too.
Yeah I'm fine with sampling, although it does kind of bug me when you hear In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida and someone goes "hey, that's Kanye West!"
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 06:22 PM
Yeah I'm fine with sampling, although it does kind of bug me when you hear In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida and someone goes "hey, that's Kanye West!"
It can bug you, but they can make a connection and then maybe even get into Iron Butterfly.
I am glad you mentioned Kanye though. He's a polarizing figure, but I love his music. You could knock his lyricism, I like it, but it's perceived as his "weakness" by his critics I think. I do think it's hard to knock his skills as a producer though. He consistently makes interesting sounding music.
I can't get into Kanye. I've tried to, but I can't.
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 06:29 PM
I can't get into Kanye. I've tried to, but I can't.
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jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 06:38 PM
I have to give you credit for trying though :p
Guaporense
08-20-14, 07:46 PM
Rap is the worst form of art I ever experienced. I don't know why people actually listen to it and I will never understand it's appeal.
I find the whole concept of listening to a guy talking nonsense just awful. It is just doesn't appeal to me at all. That reminds me why I also found the movie Faces awful, it's basically the cinematic equivalent of rap.
Of course, the lyrics are irrelevant: the lyrics in HM music can be extremely offensive as well. So offensive lyrics are not a problem.
I just do not like the whole concept of listening to a guy talking while on electronic rhythm. Doesn't appeal to me at all.
Guaporense
08-20-14, 07:53 PM
Oh but Slayer is music? :rolleyes:
Slayer is very musical (at least proper Slayer: from 1982 to 1990). It is complex and rich music, it is similar to classical music actually in it's strong sense of theatricality and it's relative melodic complexity. It is a bit more abstract than most heavy metal and classical music as well.
A classical composition by Slayer, Black Magic from their first and most melodic album, Show no Mercy, it's very accessible music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRG5F1HC5cw
Compare to Beethoven:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uOxOgm5jQ4
Slayer is basically a very simple and very aggressive form of classical music.
Slayer is very different from rap in that sense because rap is not exactly the same breed of music as Beethoven and Slayer. Both Beethoven and Slayer combine rhythm, melody and harmony, rap does something different. It is music because broadly defined music is just sounds people like to hear but it is an altogether different category of sound than "classical western music" which ranges from Slayer to Beethoven.
cricket
08-20-14, 07:57 PM
I hate rap and my reasons are probably no more than ignorant. Most rappers and a lot of their fans come off as punks to me. If there's a car parked at the gas station at 9am blasting music, it's usually rap. I don't like the way it's sounds either. I also like music in which when you go to a concert, they play actual instruments and sing. Rap talent doesn't impress me.
ROCK 'N' ROLL FOREVER!
I like rock too, cricket.
I don't only like rap. My favorite band is Pink Floyd.
Guaporense
08-20-14, 08:11 PM
I noticed that rap is popular in the US. In Brazil almost nobody listens to rap. The music of choice among the youth (educated youth) is still rock, in fact, in graduate school most of my colleagues listened to metal, one or two liked hip hop inspired music. Though among the uneducated masses more people listen to music that is influenced by hip hop, this music which is usually something made out of a mix of samba with hip hop .
Sexy Celebrity
08-20-14, 08:14 PM
I like rap music if it sounds good, just like anything else. I don't really listen to music to focus on the lyrics, I focus on how it sounds overall. I don't really care what's being said, no matter how graphic, as long as it's not something I'm against/not into. There are G rated songs that talk about things I would rather not hear.
I see any issues I might have with anything -- any genre, really, not just rap -- and not even music, movies and other things, too -- is the CULTURE surrounding something. Rap music can sound just wonderful, but when it attracts idiots who maybe take it ridiculously serious and revolve their lives around hateful/ugly things and think that it speaks for them -- like white guys trying to be HARD by listening to rap music rather than just appreciating it or appreciating something about it -- that irritates me.
A lot of rap music doesn't sound all that great, but so does a lot of other kinds of music. But, maybe if I find myself in a rap mood, I can turn it on and go with it. It doesn't bother me. It's just music. I've been surrounded in my life by people who enjoy it and I've heard it and picked up things because of this. It's not my favorite stuff out there, but if I feel like getting into a rap mood, I'll get into a rap mood. Sexy N Tha Hood.
linespalsy
08-20-14, 08:34 PM
Here's something for you to pull out your gong for, Sexy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2Wwg2385JY
MovieGal
08-20-14, 09:08 PM
I am not very fond of rap music or hip hop music.... not into talking about gangs or harming anyone during songs.... films are different.... songs...... NOPE.... not for me...
Rap is the worst form of art I ever experienced. I don't know why people actually listen to it and I will never understand it's appeal.
I find the whole concept of listening to a guy talking nonsense just awful. It is just doesn't appeal to me at all. That reminds me why I also found the movie Faces awful, it's basically the cinematic equivalent of rap.
Of course, the lyrics are irrelevant: the lyrics in HM music can be extremely offensive as well. So offensive lyrics are not a problem.
I just do not like the whole concept of listening to a guy talking while on electronic rhythm. Doesn't appeal to me at all.
"I find the whole concept of listening to a guy talking nonsense just awful." Man...You should stop there,you proven you don't have a clue about genre.You are the guy talking nonsense...I'll stay loyal to forum rules here...But still,I can call your opinion idiotic at least,if you ask why its pretty simple... "concept of listening to a guy talking nonsense just awful" who did you listen? Lil Wayne? And don't give me that **** about everyone has an opinion,yes they have it but this is not an opinion,its just you talking about something that is not there?Or you want to say rap is only genre with bad artists?What did you listen???Who did you listen? Please tell me,because it changes my view of your post.Dre said once If you don't like me...Well lets not go there...I can understand someone having problems with rap,I have problems with part of rap,but calling it overall nonsense is a big ****ing nonsense...Mate.Not angry just...Confused...I don't like people calling genre bad because they listened few bad songs...Because I listen it and I know how deep and complex rap can be...
EDIT:Imagine this,I watch Batman and Robin or The Room and watch movies overall a nonsense...Is that correct?
Sexy Celebrity
08-20-14, 10:28 PM
Here's something for you to pull out your gong for, Sexy.
That would have been great for the Asian Song Tournament. Nice sound, but I actually wish I knew what they were saying. I guess lyrics matter somewhat to me.
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 11:15 PM
Page 4 is by far my least favorite page in this thread. ugh.
edit: I was going to respond to some of these posts, mostly the Guapo one...but it's probably best that I don't.
Sexy Celebrity
08-20-14, 11:18 PM
Just respond to my post. It's the only one that matters.
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 11:25 PM
I like rap music if it sounds good, just like anything else. I don't really listen to music to focus on the lyrics, I focus on how it sounds overall. I don't really care what's being said, no matter how graphic, as long as it's not something I'm against/not into. There are G rated songs that talk about things I would rather not hear.
I see any issues I might have with anything -- any genre, really, not just rap -- and not even music, movies and other things, too -- is the CULTURE surrounding something. Rap music can sound just wonderful, but when it attracts idiots who maybe take it ridiculously serious and revolve their lives around hateful/ugly things and think that it speaks for them -- like white guys trying to be HARD by listening to rap music rather than just appreciating it or appreciating something about it -- that irritates me.
A lot of rap music doesn't sound all that great, but so does a lot of other kinds of music. But, maybe if I find myself in a rap mood, I can turn it on and go with it. It doesn't bother me. It's just music. I've been surrounded in my life by people who enjoy it and I've heard it and picked up things because of this. It's not my favorite stuff out there, but if I feel like getting into a rap mood, I'll get into a rap mood. Sexy N Tha Hood.
I don't really mind any of this. It doesn't describe me, but it's also not anything I am against. The second paragraph isn't about the music, but about the people who "abuse the music." If that makes sense. Yeah, I don't really see any problems with this. Your post isn't one that frustrated me.
And I like your avatar.
Sexy Celebrity
08-20-14, 11:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0_G0m5W1nY
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 11:29 PM
Ok, now you've frustrated me :coleman:
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 11:39 PM
Okay, I'll bite.
Rap is the worst form of art I ever experienced. I don't know why people actually listen to it and I will never understand it's appeal.
Ouch. Judging from some of the things you like, music and anime related, this is pretty harsh.
I find the whole concept of listening to a guy talking nonsense just awful. It is just doesn't appeal to me at all. That reminds me why I also found the movie Faces awful, it's basically the cinematic equivalent of rap.
Hmm. Women can rap too. And I don't know that I would call rapping "talking." That's a little disrespectful. Faces is great. Also, where the hell does this "nonsense" come from? If you would actually read the lyrics to some of the songs by the better acts, I don't know how you would call it nonsense. It's poetry.
Of course, the lyrics are irrelevant: the lyrics in HM music can be extremely offensive as well. So offensive lyrics are not a problem.
I don't know if you are saying the lyrics are actually irrelevant or if you mean that it's irrelevant if they are offensive or not. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and say you are referring to the latter.
I just do not like the whole concept of listening to a guy talking while on electronic rhythm. Doesn't appeal to me at all.
Hip hop is a lot more than "a guy talking while on electronic rhythm." It feels incredibly disrespectful to just generalize an entire genre this way. I guess I understand you not understanding the appeal of it, but you obviously don't understand what it actually is if all you get out of it is that it's "a guy talking nonsense...while on electronic rhythm."
jiraffejustin
08-20-14, 11:43 PM
I hate rap and my reasons are probably no more than ignorant. Most rappers and a lot of their fans come off as punks to me. If there's a car parked at the gas station at 9am blasting music, it's usually rap. I don't like the way it's sounds either. I also like music in which when you go to a concert, they play actual instruments and sing. Rap talent doesn't impress me.
ROCK 'N' ROLL FOREVER!
What you associate rap with is not what concerns me here. I'm also not concerned about you not liking the way it sounds, I understand that. What concerns me is the disrespect for what these guys actually do. How in the world is a computer, turntable, voice or any damn thing that makes noise not considered an "actual" instrument?
Iroquois
08-21-14, 01:35 AM
Rap is talking nonsense over an electronic rhythm in the same way that metal is screaming nonsense over blastbeats.
To answer the original question, I like rap (or the stuff I like the most, at least) because of the lyricism that's alternately complex and direct backed up by some masterful production that often requires just as much talent as rock music, if not more. Sampling is an also an art form that sounds great when it's done effectively. I'm indifferent to the culture surrounding it.
jiraffejustin
08-21-14, 01:59 AM
I'll just post a guy talking nonsense on an electronic rhythm here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4XsXbz9CHM
Sexy Celebrity
08-21-14, 02:17 AM
I'll just post a guy talking nonsense on an electronic rhythm here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4XsXbz9CHM
Winner of Rap Song Tournament. Nominated by honeykid.
christine
08-21-14, 02:26 AM
I like loads of rap and hip hop. Some of it is really inventive with amazing wordplay. Maybe people get put off by the generic sexist gangsta aspect, but if they put in some time to listen to the more poetic stuff and listen to the beats maybe they wouldn't be so dismissive. It's a brilliant way for kids to get a message across too, be it funny or serious. I'll try and find some clips of what I mean in the next few days.
jiraffejustin
08-21-14, 03:41 AM
Winner of Rap Song Tournament. Nominated by honeykid.
so honeykid actually has good taste in something? Whoulda thunk it? :D
The Sci-Fi Slob
08-21-14, 06:07 AM
Well, so what! Don't you see? You're all intelligent people on this forum, and yes I've had a few..maybe too many.. beers, but don't you see that it's all bullsh!t, everything? All of it a facade, the elite get richer, you struggle, and you imagine that you have achieved something by grabbing the scraps from their tables. There is a reason why the majority have everything and the minority have nothing; it isn't fate - it is social engineering. But I'm just drunk..so nevermind..:cool:
Oh Christ.. did I really post this? How embarrassing:blush:. Sorry everyone, I was drinking ammonium perchlorate again last night.:(
honeykid
08-21-14, 06:41 AM
so honeykid actually has good taste in something? Whoulda thunk it? :D
Yeah, occasionally the Venn diagram of what I like and everyone else likes overlap. It's a small section, but it's there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6voHeEa3ig
This is my point,he talks about gangsters,crime and violence but he is not praising it.Real Gangsta Rap talks about it but its not praising it.In every genre you have idiots thinking they know what are they doing.This is real Gangsta Rap,I wanted to point that out because everyone has a problem with it.
jiraffejustin
08-21-14, 04:34 PM
I wanted to post this somewhere, but I didn't know where.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFfrNFkP2do
christine
08-21-14, 04:52 PM
This is some of the stuff I like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBAkRos-Vd0&list=RDXBAkRos-Vd0#t=27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxvaN5t8qaI&list=PL57A1B0EA1AA7064E&index=5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xQe45qdv1c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGRxjcsUOro
I wanted to post this somewhere, but I didn't know where.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFfrNFkP2do
Killer Mike is cool. Admittedly I haven't listened to him enough.
Captain Spaulding
08-22-14, 05:43 AM
I don't hate rap, but it's definitely one of my least favorite types of music.
I think the biggest problem for me is that rap hasn't been around as long as many other musical genres, so the pool of great songs isn't as deep. If I only listened to modern rock music, for example, I'd think I hated all rock music, but luckily I can go all the way back to the 50's and find tons of great rock-n-roll artists between now and then. I used to think I hated country music, because I only knew what was popular at the time, but then I got a little older and discovered Johnny Cash and Willie Nelson and Patsy Cline and Merle Haggard and realized that I actually like country music quite a bit, just not the modern stuff. Rap, on the other hand, doesn't have as long or as rich of a musical history, so there's less to draw from. (Although, not surprisingly, I much prefer rap from the late 80's/early 90's to the modern stuff.)
A lot of rap, or at least the stuff that gets the most airplay, tends to be off-putting and egocentric. Regardless of what style of music it is or how talented the musician, if every song is basically "Hey, look how big my d!ck is! Look at my expensive cars and my big ass crib and my bottle of Cristal! Look at my bling! Look at my ho's!" then I'm not going to listen for very long. (That reminds me of the excellent "Look At My *****" scene from Spring Breakers: "Look at my *****. Got my blue kool-aid. Got my Ralph Lauren cologne. Look at my *****, yo!") I know that I'm generalizing and that a lot of good rap exists that isn't all "Hey, look at me!" but it seems that every time I hear a rap song come on the radio, that's the kind it is. (Just like every modern country song is seemingly about drinking beer and driving trucks and loving the good ol' U.S.A.)
It also just comes down to what I find pleasing to the ears. Like Eric Clapton, "I get off on screaming guitar." I prefer the sound of a band--- bass, drums, guitar, etc. I prefer the sound of lyrics being sung, not rapped. I admire the verbal wordplay of some rappers and I like some rap, but it's never going to be something that I want to listen to for very long.
jiraffejustin
08-22-14, 02:01 PM
I think the reason most rap is so egocentric is because guys usually start out literally on the streets battling each other. The point of a rap battle is to tell the crowd why you are better than the person you are battling.
doubledenim
08-29-14, 05:04 AM
Hip-hop was the last rock n' roll, since rock n' roll. It created a stir, a revolution, changed behaviors, fashion, mindsets. The messages are the same in both. It always seemed to me that rock started to fade and hip-hop became the voice of the youth to an extent. If you are looking to find something, it is present in both.
Btw, this is the only thing you need to be concerned with...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rog8ou-ZepE
...anything less than the best is a felony
I hate metal because it's all screaming and my ears don't like to be assaulted by indecipherable noise.
MovieGal
08-29-14, 12:19 PM
I hate metal because it's all screaming and my ears don't like to be assaulted by indecipherable noise.
But there are different types of Metal...
I enjoy Symphonic Metal.... bands like Within Temptation, Lacuna Coil, Delain, Apocalyptica.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DRB3ZFO9kA
Miss Vicky
08-29-14, 12:34 PM
I hate metal because it's all screaming and my ears don't like to be assaulted by indecipherable noise.
Shows how little you know about "metal." :rolleyes:
It's fine not to like a particular genre and I don't care much for metal myself, but you're being a hypocrite.
jiraffejustin
08-29-14, 12:37 PM
I don't think he was being serious. I think he was merely pointing out the silliness of the criticism against rap music by doing the same thing towards metal.
Miss Vicky
08-29-14, 12:43 PM
Either way, it's a BS statement. The people saying "they don't like rap because..." are obviously speaking in terms of what they're familiar with. And whether Tyler likes it or not, the thread is asking for the explanations for why people love or hate the genre. If he has a problem with reading responses that are anti-rap, he ought to just stay out of the thread entirely.
Yeah, Tyler was definitely joking.
jiraffejustin
08-29-14, 12:55 PM
I think what Tyler said is fine. If you don't want to read about people poking holes in what other people use as a criticism, I guess you could stay out of the thread too. But you are invited to stay, because I like you. :p
Miss Vicky
08-29-14, 01:04 PM
I wouldn't call a whole three posts in this thread as "poking holes" in anything. He also never explained to me in what way "oppression, racism, and social dynamics" are "relevant" to my life. Still waiting for him to enlighten me on that one.
jiraffejustin
08-29-14, 01:12 PM
I wasn't saying anything about his previous posts, just his most recent. Maybe "poking holes" wasn't the best choice of words, but I stand by it. He at least used an example of the poor arguments waged against rap music by "criticizing" metal in the same manner. I am pretty sure it was pointed at Guapo, and not you or anybody else. Or hell, maybe everybody and Guapo? I don't know, but I thought it was clever.
EDIT: I am pretty sure that he is just saying that because of Guapo. Sounds just like Guapo's anti-rap criticism, and Guapo thinks metal is the best music ever.
Aren't the existence of those things relevant to everyone? And I say this as someone who isn't nuts about rap anyway.
Yeah, I thought he was making fun of Guapo and his "I don't want to listen to a guy talking over electronic sounds."
MovieGal
08-29-14, 01:16 PM
I will say this... if people like rap, thats fine.. its their business.... myself, personally, I dont care for it. Im sure there is music I enjoy, that others do not. My opinion of rap is based on what I have heard. Perhaps its changed over the years but late 80's and early 90's rap is not for me.... just like I dont like the pop music that is played now days. Heck the pop music from the 90s wasnt good either... but if someone wants to listen to it, fine......
Miss Vicky
08-29-14, 01:22 PM
Aren't the existence of those things relevant to everyone? And I say this as someone who isn't nuts about rap anyway.
Relevant in a general human rights "oh that sucks and it needs to be changed" kind of way? Sure. But relevant in a way that actually directly affects my life? Not that I can see.
Well, sure, but that seems like an odd standard, given that we all love all sorts of books and movies that don't directly affect us. Other people's art can be (and often is) "relevant" to us because of the existence of empathy, so I don't think anybody needs to demonstrate direct relevance in order to explain why it might be compelling.
Miss Vicky
08-29-14, 01:27 PM
Yeah, sure there are reasons that it might be compelling for some people, but Tyler1 seems to think it should be compelling to me.
Here's what Tyler1 said:
Hip hop isn't all about sex and violence. It's also about oppression, racism, and social dynamics that are as relevant to your life as your personal desires.
Again, I don't see those things as being on the same level of relevance to my life.
In all forms of art, I gravitate towards pieces that I can either relate to or lose myself in and 99% of what I've heard of rap music doesn't qualify in either respect.
You've heard 99% of rap music? Impressive.
Miss Vicky
08-29-14, 01:30 PM
You've heard 99% of rap music? Impressive.
:rolleyes:
Fixed.
Yeah, I'm not saying it ought to be compelling to you. I'm saying the fact that it's not directly relevant to you doesn't seem...well, relevant, given the myriad examples of things you like that also probably aren't. Unless you've been a gladiator. ;D
Tyler's arguments may otherwise be compelling or not, I honestly don't know. I just don't think he has to demonstrate personal relevance to you to make his case. The dispositive reason probably lies elsewhere.
Miss Vicky
08-29-14, 01:35 PM
I edited my post to illustrate why I take exception to Tyler's statement of relevance regarding those issues. Not sure if you saw it, Yoda.
Derek Vinyard
08-29-14, 01:44 PM
I hate metal because it's all screaming and my ears don't like to be assaulted by indecipherable noise.
you generalized.... I actually very like Metal and you have many genre or category of metal ... you have Power Metal , Death Metal , Hardcore Metal ,etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jgrCKhxE1s
This Band is a Power/Metal group with two of the best guitarist ever Herman Lee is simply a beast
We already determined he was joking, Derek. :p
MovieGal
08-29-14, 01:46 PM
you generalized.... I actually very like Metal and you have many genre or category of metal ... you have Power Metal , Death Metal , Hardcore Metal ,etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jgrCKhxE1s
This Band is a Power/Metal group with two of the best guitarist ever Herman Lee is simply a beast
another one of my favorite genres of metal ... "Medieval Metal"!!!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTSitlFXEX8
Of course I would most respectfully decline Miss Vicky's challenge to "enlighten" her. Firstly, I was responding to Guapo's generalisation and obviously I have respect for all types of music - metal and hip hop. Instead of shutting oneself from particular styles of music, and failing to give any credible evidence to support one's claim, at least try to be more consistent in your reasoning instead of saying that "sex and violence" are the valid reasons for disliking hip-hop (which I have discredited by stating that hip-hop is not all about sex and violence) but can be used as an excuse for cinema. Secondly, don't use your naïvety or apathy towards social issues to justify their lack of relevance. Just because it isn't important to you does not mean it isn't to others. Give me a break.
Miss Vicky
08-29-14, 02:00 PM
Just because it isn't important to you does not mean it isn't to others. Give me a break.
I never said it wasn't important to others, I said that's not a reason for me to like it. I'm also asking you to explain how those issues are "just as relevant to [my] life as [my] personal desires." If you can't explain that statement, fine, but don't think it holds any weight without an explanation.
Citizen Rules
08-29-14, 02:02 PM
Addressing the general title of this thread:
Why do you hate/love rap music?
Neither....I prefer Frank Sinatra, Neil Diamond.
Derek Vinyard
08-29-14, 02:28 PM
We already determined he was joking, Derek. :p
ahhh alright !! :p my bad
I like rap a lot, but not for cultural/lyrical reasons. I really love hearing the voice as a instrument in rap. Their is some really great syncopation and rhythms that rappers can do. The actual words are like different kind of percussion sounds to me. I like The Roots as mentioned as well as Outlawz.
Saying Rap is all about sex and violence is ignorant...
Mr Minio
08-29-14, 02:56 PM
This Band is a Power/Metal group with two of the best guitarist ever Herman Lee is simply a beast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2R8eHhkvSs
I like rap a lot, but not for cultural/lyrical reasons. I really love hearing the voice as a instrument in rap. Their is some really great syncopation and rhythms that rappers can do. The actual words are like different kind of percussion sounds to me. I like The Roots as mentioned as well as Outlawz.
I've been listening to The Roots a lot lately. Fantastic stuff.
Well, I love rap, specially the one who is still untouched by media or big record companies!
Ah, and I love metal aswell, specially heavy metal (that has nothing to do with "indecipherable noise", btw).
I study opera singing, btw, so one thing does not forbid the other!
Guaporense
08-30-14, 08:47 PM
Rap is talking nonsense over an electronic rhythm in the same way that metal is screaming nonsense over blastbeats.
Not quite. It's the same as saying that metal is riff driven music with a guy screaming nonsense and blast beats. Metal is not vocal driven, it's mostly instrumental driven. Rap is mostly vocal driven, like other popular music. They are completely different approaches to music.
jiraffejustin
08-30-14, 08:54 PM
But like... in rap the vocals and beats are basically equally important.
Guaporense
08-30-14, 08:55 PM
Of course I would most respectfully decline Miss Vicky's challenge to "enlighten" her. Firstly, I was responding to Guapo's generalisation
Generalization? I have been listening to rap for 20 years. If you want to give a more precise definition give it. My definition of "dude talking fast over electronic rhythm" fits all cases of music considered rap that I have listened though I have not listened to much, I guess only about one thousand different rap song.
I dislike the genre, never liked a single rap song among the many hundreds I listened.
and obviously I have respect for all types of music - metal and hip hop.
True I sounded a bit close minded. I tolerate all genres of music but I am not interested by most of them though.
Instead of shutting oneself from particular styles of music
I am not shutting myself. I just dislike the genre. One has a finite number of years in life, hence, you do not have the time to actually listen to everything, specially because more hours of music are being composed/recorded today in the world than the number of hours in a day. Hence I allocate my music listening time to the genres that I like, I dislike the characteristics of music considered to be inside the rap subgenre of hip hop music.
and failing to give any credible evidence to support one's claim, at least try to be more consistent in your reasoning instead of saying that "sex and violence" are the valid reasons for disliking hip-hop (which I have discredited by stating that hip-hop is not all about sex and violence) but can be used as an excuse for cinema.
Agreed on that part.
Guaporense
08-30-14, 08:56 PM
But like... in rap the vocals and beats are basically equally important.
Give me a rap instrumental.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QxiQ2LRiz0
jiraffejustin
08-30-14, 10:33 PM
You do realize that when they would release rap singles the B-sides often times were the instrumentals of the A-side, right?
More instrumentals are released than a capella raps are released. Not that any of that matters or proves the importance of either.
MovieGal
08-30-14, 10:42 PM
Some rock bands use rapping style in their songs.... Linkin Park is one band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVTXPUF4Oz4
even alternative pop got into the act
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUtnwcv-quE
but during the 80s we had.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B_UYYPb-Gk
now this type of Rap I dont mind....
jiraffejustin
08-30-14, 10:43 PM
Rage Against the Machine is the first that comes to mind when it comes to rock-rap for me.
MovieGal
08-30-14, 10:44 PM
Rage Against the Machine is the first that comes to mind when it comes to rock-rap for me.
well "Walk this Way" by Aerosmith with Run-DMC was the first cross over
MovieGal
08-30-14, 10:47 PM
Other examples
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcHL8efKKPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07Y0cy-nvAg
MovieGal
08-30-14, 10:52 PM
even "Blondie" has rap lyrics in their song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHCdS7O248g
jiraffejustin
08-30-14, 10:59 PM
I didn't mean that Rage was the first chronologically :p
I like what I've heard from the Beastie Boys, I just haven't heard very much. That Clash song is pretty fun, I've heard it a few times before. I was listening to a Gang of Four song the other day that had a rappy part in it, but I can't remember the song.
MovieGal
08-30-14, 11:07 PM
I dont mind some rap rock but not everything....
doubledenim
09-02-14, 09:24 PM
!!! RAGE !!!
...and if you can have only one Beetsie album, make it "Paul's Boutique". An album that could not be made today for a variety of reasons.
Guaporense
09-07-14, 03:58 AM
You do realize that when they would release rap singles the B-sides often times were the instrumentals of the A-side, right?
Of course not. I never brought and never touched on a rap record in my life. Why I would touch on a rap record and put it into a music player? To torture myself only since I dislike the genre. I know how rap sounds like from it's appearance in music other people selected for me (in TV, parties, here, etc) but I would never explore it on my own volition. I have been subjected to rap by third parties for many years now and never liked it.
Heavy Metal, for instance, is mostly underground music that you never see being played on the radio (I mean, real metal not tallica's post 80's sh*t) both in Brazil and in the US with some exceptions. When I was first touched by metal it was like I discovered the fact: 'Oh there exists good music in this world.", because before that I never liked music enough to actually play it from my own volition.
More instrumentals are released than a capella raps are released. Not that any of that matters or proves the importance of either.
Well, it still does not change the fact that all the rap people talk about are vocal based. For instance, all rap posted here is capella raps. Rap as conventionally understood and as you said before, is a mix between electronic rhythms and vocals.
Derek Vinyard
09-07-14, 04:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xND-SW8ssg
another rap song I appreciate .
Mr Minio
09-09-14, 09:01 PM
End of the world is near. I found 'classic' rap song I like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiQoVv0FSKQ
jiraffejustin
09-09-14, 09:07 PM
WOOOOOOTAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG
Mr Minio
10-14-14, 06:28 AM
I was browsing my old favourites on YT and found some stuff I dig:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIjltadWqpA
Not a fan of lyrics, but the slow, dreamy, watery beat and the hook are amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9td4P8kXM4
I can't believe I actually like it. Sounds like Linkin Park with some Pony in the video! What's wrong with me. :D
Guaporense
10-15-14, 12:48 AM
I was in a really bad mood when I wrote those posts but thinking in retrospect I would say that I actually enjoy the sounds of the electronic rhythms used in most rap I know, however I really dislike the vocal style of all rap I listened too (the "talking style") and the lack of melody/harmony in the music. Overall, however, I wouldn't say it's garbage because that's also an ignorant statement but just a style of music that I have little interest in hearing.
MovieBuffering
10-15-14, 01:56 AM
Fabolous is my dude. Guy is so freaking clever with his lyrics. He is a movie watcher too I can tell by his lyrics.
Here is some bars this site can appreciate.
You can see signs of them lyin' and they ain't even Leos
Just came to Cabo, bout to go to Rio
Catch Me If You Can, Leo DiCaprio.
Sometimes it's about that check, sometimes it's about checking that
Di Nero said you gotta leave in 30 seconds flat.
We push 911's, but we don't call cops
I'm Paul Blart boy, all I do is mall cop
Being fly goin be the death of me, check my autops.
Cause when you lose a friend it's hard to handle the loss
They do some b*tch sh*t, gotta give your a man a divorce
End up watching friends like Joey, Chandler and Ross
(TV I know but still damn clever)
There are a ton more but it's hard to think of them of the top of my head.
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