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Hi. I dont know who you are, but Ill trade teams with you. :)
Powdered Water
08-10-14, 10:14 PM
:laugh:
rauldc14
08-10-14, 10:15 PM
That would be awesome if people did that.
Powdered Water
08-20-14, 08:54 PM
Blockbuster... comin' through!
jiraffejustin
08-21-14, 01:45 AM
PW gets Marshawn Lynch
Yoda gets Demaryius Thomas and Pierre Thomas
Yoda wins this trade.
Man, I hope so. Seemed like getting a stud RB was a huge part of the strategy this year, but when I got Bush and Tate later on I could live with them if it meant being stacked at receiver.
Who drafted Bell & Blount? ;)
It's appropriate this name's pronounced "blunt."
rauldc14
08-21-14, 10:33 AM
I don't think much will happen of the Bell and Blount situation. 1st time offense.
jiraffejustin
08-21-14, 11:41 AM
It's appropriate this name's pronounced "blunt."
and Bell is not far from "bowl"
Sent an offer Wyld Stallions way. Im offering Montee Ball & Andy Dalton for Peyton Manning. I think Balls gonna do well like Knowshon did last year, but I like Peyton Manning. :)
Sorry, not interested in either of those players.
jiraffejustin
08-24-14, 05:20 PM
I'd like to give myself some RB depth, all of my players are on the trading block. If you're interested, send me a PM and we can discuss it.
JJ if your out there. Your PM box is full. I will think on your offer. Its fair.
Anybody and everybody is available for a RB. Week 2 and I am about to be up the creek.
rauldc14
09-14-14, 10:18 PM
Charles on the block. Of course, nobody wants him.
WBadger
09-14-14, 11:48 PM
I'd be interested in Charles
jiraffejustin
09-15-14, 12:13 AM
me too
With Ball & Crowell having Byes Week 4, MJD still being out, now Foster's out too, and I am in need of a couple RBs. Very possible I could be running out Jonathan Grimes and Dexter McCluster next week
So I need some stop-gap RBs for week 4. If nobody heals by week 5 Ill still have Isaiah Crowell & Montee Ball to start. Both are on a Bye this week though.
Willing to deal WR3 Anquan Boldin, TE1 Larry Donnell, RB3 Isaiah Crowell, or WR1 Sammy Watkins.
The RB issues this year are unreal. I can't remember a year like it, especially this early.
Oh yeah - Adrian Peterson, Ray Rice, Jamaal Charles, Bernard Pierce, Arian Foster, Mark Ingram, Doug Martin, Ryan Matthews, Ben Tate, Maurice Jones-Drew, Knowshon Moreno, and Danny Woodhead. Thats 12 starting RBs in the first 3 weeks.
Sent an offer Peteys way for Chris Ivory. Offering Isaiah Crowell & Anquan Boldin.
Made a deal with Yoda sending Arian Foster and Isaiah Crowell over for Donald "One man show" Brown, and Reggie Bush. So my RB corps now is Ball, Bush, Brown, and MJD on the DL.
Offering Sleezys Stallions Reggie Bush (he has Joique Bell) for Chris Ivory. I like Ivory, and Bush will compliment his Bell. Hm, that sounds weird.
RB available. Solid TE and/or DEF wanted.
Edit: WR wanted as well.
Justin ill give you Anquan Boldin for Jordan Reed. Dude! You have Larry Donnell & Jimmy Graham already :laugh:
Sent Sleezy 3 offers for Chris Ivory.
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I have just put a horses head in Sedais bed. :yup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2CX20bBNJE
HE ACCEPTED!! :D
Montee Ball & Austin Davis for Eli Manning. Ball will be out 4 weeks, and there may be no guarantee he gets his starting job back. Since Seds has Andy Luck he has little risk in this venture, and I now have an Eli to Beckham connector thats playing Philadelphia next :licklips: yum.
I desperately need RBs. All my players are available, but only for right fair deal.
Steve Smith is on the block. Need a RB.
http://cdn.nextimpulsesports.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/PI-NFL-SteveSmith-BaltimoreRavens-081514.vresize.940.529.high_.0.jpg
Steve Smith is on the block. Need a RB.
http://cdn.nextimpulsesports.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/PI-NFL-SteveSmith-BaltimoreRavens-081514.vresize.940.529.high_.0.jpg
Steve Smith is #8 WR overall in 2014. 49 targets, 30 receptions, 463 yards, 3 touchdowns, and 77.30 fantasy points overall.
I need an RB thats comparable to that. Someone with 30-40 fantasy points overall is too much of a dropoff for me to part with Smith, who will remain Joe Flaccos #1 target going forward.
Good thing I didnt trade Smith away as he rocked Tampa Bay better than he ever had in his career with Carolina. Oh boy yay for him :|
After knocking on every door in the league, multiple times, Im pretty sure Ill have to go forward with what I got. Unless of course someone wants to send me a equally rewarding for both sides trade offer ;)
Plastic Pads & Iron Men 2014
QB Eli Manning
WR Jeremy Maclin
WR Steve Smith Sr
RB Ronnie Hillman (My gut tells me he'll remain Denvers starter. If not then its Antone Smith or Bernard Pierce. Montee was horrible).
RB Reggie Bush (Got Theo Riddick just in case).
TE Rob Gronkowski
WRT Odell Beckham Jr (taking Victor Cruz place as #1) or Sammy Watkins (A real WR1 now with Kyle Orton).
That's just gonna have to do. :yup:
....and of course I find a way to make a trade nullifying the above post entirely. Why do I even post?!
Made a deal with Beantown Petey getting Joe Flacco and giving him Eli "Petey must not have seen Philly own him sunday night" Manning & Antone Smith.
Then I nabbed RG III off waivers for Flaccos Bye week 11. He should be healed by then. I feel dtrong at QB. :) Now I can just hope Ronnie Hillman keeps his RB job, or Ill be stuck with Bernard Pierce. :(
Hmm! An expert I confer with said Eli was better than Flacco, said though nabbing RG III was wise. Not as excited as I was before, but Ill go with Joe till RG III comes back. Dang expert...
rauldc14
10-15-14, 10:54 PM
I am still willing to make a trade with anyone. The only players I wouldn't deal is Cobb and Julio. The rest are fair game.
No this isnt a post to trade (though I could use a strong QB or RB), but to list the 3 players I have from my draft. One was dropped and grabbed up again, but that doesnt count :nope:
Rob Gronkowski. I knew he was hurt going-in, but I knew he would earn his most at the most critical time, being the last half of season.
http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2011/12/07/Graham-Gronk-changing-faces-of-tight-ends-33MDPAO-x-large.jpg
Jeremy Maclin missed all of 2013, but his strong #'s at WR2 for so many years behind Desean, I knew like many he'd have a great 2014. The most requested player on my roster.
http://www.foxsports.com/content/dam/fsdigital/fscom/nfl/images/2014/02/28/022814-NFL-Eagles-Jeremy-Maclin-CQ-PI-CH.jpg
Ronnie Hillman. I grabbed Hillman as Montee Balls handcuff, then it looked like CJ Anderson was the #2, and then Montee went down. Hillman has outperformed Ball in every capacity, and against the toughest opponents (NYJ & SF). Im hoping he'll keep the job. Even if its a committee with Ball he should be able to earn strong.
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Ronnie+Hillman+Oakland+Raiders+v+Denver+Broncos+YJvW4Sy8AM1l.jpg
On a side note, Ronnie Hillman as a kid was coached by Snoop Dogg
http://bloguin.com/thisgivensunday/2014-articles/ronnie-hillman-was-once-coached-by-snoop-dogg.html
http://cdn1.bloguin.com/thisgivensunday/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2014/01/snoop.jpg
Still looking for a WR1 or WR2 upgrade.
Strong RB options available.
With me and Yoda trading our hurt players, I gave him Reggie Bush for Pierre Thomas, I now feel good going forward with my RBs. Ive Travaris Cadet for when Thomas is out, have Theo Riddick if Bush is out, and Tre Mason who should completely seize the RB1 slot at St Louis if he hasnt don so already. Then theres Ronnie Hillman too.
Would very much like to upgrade my QB position. Im willing to package Flacco with another player in a 2 for 1 for a QB upgrade. If anyones interested let me know :)
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The player I hated so bad that I swore Id never take him or any of the players from his team (due to them running up scores bout 5 years ago) was Tom Brady. With Gronk on my roster I felt it fitting to take a shot at getting Brady. Of course, after Sleezy laughed at the trade offer when I went for Peyton first. :)
So I traded Sean Joe Flacco & Jeremy Maclin for Tom Brady. Really really hope Brady is strong going forward, and his upside is greater than any QB Ive had on my roster this year. (Dalton, Cousins, Eli, and Flacco).
Sent a last minute to the deadline trade offer to Sean. Im curious and hoping if he sees it tonight.
I assume you meant the "deadline" for a trade to process for this week; he yearly trade deadline is next week.
Oh! Really?! I actually thought it was yesterday. Sorry, my bad :blush:
Powdered Water
11-08-14, 10:28 PM
Tongo jumped the shark. He can't have Brady on his team. That's just silly. :laugh:
Tongo gonna get trophy, and no ramp & shark will stop me!
Trying for one last trade till tomorrows deadline with Sleezy.
The player I hated so bad that I swore Id never take him or any of the players from his team (due to them running up scores bout 5 years ago) was Tom Brady.
Pure and utter nonsense. There just isn't any such thing as "running up the score" in the NFL. The concept doesn't exist. Was Big Ben running up the score when he threw 6 TDs twice this season? Was Manning running up the score all last season? how about Aaron Rodgers and the Packers just this past week? Didn't he throw for like 6 TDs in one HALF? I think Andrew Luck put clown suits on a team a few weeks ago The object of the game, as Maddon said thousands of times, is the score touchdowns on the football field, with...the football. If a pathetic team with a bad defense loses by a lot, it is all on them. All of it. Their offense didn't produce, therefore spending the majority of the game on the sideline, and there just can't be any other result if their defense is also poor. Bad teams get scored on a lot, and great teams score a lot. "Running up the score" sounds like something Rex Ryan would say after he realizes his playbook is 5 years outdated and that his team just got crushed by 30 points...again. Time to put this complaint, which doesn't make a lick of sense, to bed.
Pure and utter nonsense. There just isn't any such thing as "running up the score" in the NFL. The concept doesn't exist. Was Big Ben running up the score when he threw 6 TDs twice this season? Was Manning running up the score all last season? how about Aaron Rodgers and the Packers just this past week? Didn't he throw for like 6 TDs in one HALF? I think Andrew Luck put clown suits on a team a few weeks ago The object of the game, as Maddon said thousands of times, is the score touchdowns on the football field, with...the football. If a pathetic team with a bad defense loses by a lot, it is all on them. All of it. Their offense didn't produce, therefore spending the majority of the game on the sideline, and there just can't be any other result if their defense is also poor. Bad teams get scored on a lot, and great teams score a lot. "Running up the score" sounds like something Rex Ryan would say after he realizes his playbook is 5 years outdated and that his team just got crushed by 30 points...again. Time to put this complaint, which doesn't make a lick of sense, to bed.
......Please! If the 2008 Patriots (I think that was the year) werent "running up the score" then there is no such thing as "running up the score", and believe me there is. All those examples you gave were instances where a team did it once or twice. The Patriots were beating people unmercifully every week, because they could. Why didnt they pull Tom Brady out of the game all those times if they werent?
I think we've had this argument before, but I'll reiterate my case: "running up the score" can exist if the team is padding its stats in a way that actually hurts its chances of winning the game. You say the objective of the game is to score TDs, but it isn't: it's to win! TDs are a means to that end. But at a certain point the possibility of a TD is less valuable than the certainty of running out the clock. So at some point in a game continuing to throw (especially far downfield) can actually reduce your chances of winning the game, compared to more conservative play.
Surely we can agree that anything which pads stats at the expense of hurting your chances of winning--even slightly--is poor sportsmanship?
Also worth pointing out that whatever your opinion of "running up the score" in an ethical/sportsmanship sense, it obviously needs to be taken into account when comparing records and the like.
I am with Sedai. At the professional level you need to be able to stop me. Within that sixty minute time frame, my players are to perform at their highest level possible. Too many bad things can happen, and I am not just talking about game outcome, if a professional sports team takes their foot off the gas.
rauldc14
11-13-14, 12:31 PM
If everyone did it the same way I'd be ok with it. Brady and Brees are continually out there in blowouts while guys like Rodgers are getting pulled out.
I would love to see some sort of statistics on that. My guess is neither is happening enough for us to be debating it.
Obviously, we expect everyone to compete as much as possible; it does the other team a disservice to take your foot "off the gas." But you're using that gas to get...where? To a win right? Not to the highest score possible. Most of the game, these two destinations are the same, but at a certain point they diverge, and time becomes more important than score margin.
As for long-term considerations: which is more likely in a blowout? That the team comes back even though you're running out the clock, or that one of your guys gets hurt on a meaningless play?
Some good points here, but I think most times, and especially with Brady et al., they just like to run their offense to the point of perfect execution. No matter how good they are doing, they want to reach higher, perform better, and push the envelope in the game. Also, I have seen teams come back to win when down by 28 points, so taking the foot off the gas is never an option. Rodgers just kept airing the ball out this past week, because he knew his guys could beat the CHI defense. Cobb and Nelson are amazing route runners, and the corners couldn't defend. After two long, impressive strikes to Jordy Nelson in the first half, Rodgers just went ahead and did it again, on the exact same route, with the same clown covering Nelson. The defender has to physically put Nelson is, you guessed it, a half-nelson to stop the play. He pinned his arms behind his back!
Is that running up the score? If 48-13 is running up the score for the Pats, why is 55-14 not running up the score for the Packers, simply because his coach put another guy in after the half? The challenge was for Chicago to stop the Pack, which they could not, and for Cutler to not throw picks and meatballs all night, which he did.
That said, a of couple good points were made by Yods and Raul.
Oh, and since this is the Trading Block thread, I'll briefly mention that I'm looking for a moderately cheap RB2/RB3. Just a vaguely startable guy, preferably for a corresponding WR2, like Eric Decker. We'd have to figure it out in the next day or so to beat the deadline, if anyone's interested.
......Please! If the 2008 Patriots (I think that was the year) werent "running up the score" then there is no such thing as "running up the score"*
Yes Tongo, I totally agree buddy! :) ;)
*This quote has been edited for content so I can make my point and stuff.
I agree that time becomes more of a consideration, and that a win is the ultimate goal. I can't imagine someone like Belicheck's motivation being anything other than that and I am someone who hates him and the Patriots, probably much more than Tongo. Maybe I am being naive as to the Patriots motivations, I don't know. My team has probably been blown out more than any other during the Brady era. I have watched a lot of those games. Never once have I been more pissed off at the Patriots than the Bills defense.
To answer your second question I think the come back is more likely but I am just talking out of my ass. I have nothing to back that up.:D
rauldc14
11-13-14, 01:21 PM
I'm not against continuing to execute your offense. In fact it was 42-0 at the half. If the starters stay in even in the third quarter I think bare minimum we would have had 56 points right there.
Rodgers is having a great year despite literally almost missing 8 quarters of meaningless football, due to bringing in backups or legitimately running the clock out in the 3rd quarter.
Yes Tongo, I totally agree buddy! :) ;)
*This quote has been edited for content so I can make my point and stuff.
HM! Word trickery! :laugh:
Also keep in mind I am biased, live 30 minutes from Foxborough stadium, and my second favorite team ever is the Packers. no favoritism here! ;)
And before you ask: Yes, I have been to multiple Pats games. I was lucky enough to see game two of the 2007 season, when the Pats opened up at home vs The Chargers. Tomlinson was coming off a ridiculous season, and Merriman had returned to action after injury, so I recall my friends and I were slightly worried about the match up as we grilled burgers across the street in a parking lot and tossed back a few suds. This one exactly one week after spygate, a bunch of big fines, bad press, and about a million eyes were scrutinizing every move the Pats made. Of course, we had heard all sorts of chatter about how the Pats were going to fold to the Chargers, how LT was going to put 200 yards up, and how Merriman et al would bottle up Brady. We all know what happened.
It was amazing being able to see the Brady/Moss chemistry in action, even early in the season, and Welker was in top form that day. LT did doodley squat, and Rivers got harassed all day and threw multiple picks. The place went wild and I had a blast!
Just throwing this out there - it may have been mentioned already.
At some point during the tie-breaking process for playoff picture points and TDs does come into play. I know they recently (for me I am old) added strength of victory and schedule so I know if it is even less likely to go to points, but if my team missed the playoffs because of points and I knew they could have had more I might be a little ticked.
I am not saying I agree or disagree with anything said thus far, everyone has good "points".
Get it? :rolleyes: ummmm nm.
rauldc14
11-13-14, 05:09 PM
I remember one year (with the Steelers I believe) that points went into effect. That is funny that you say that, because as slim as the odds are, there are tiebreakers that actually depend on that.
Hmm, I remember the Steelers losing the division to Cincinnati on a triple-tiebreak (they won the Super Bowl anyway), but it wasn't points. Points isn't higher than the 6th tiebreaker in any situation. I'm not sure it's ever come into play. Still a good point, though!
Anyway, trade deadline's over. Nothing big happened.
I was poking about for a little help at RB, but no dice. If Foster's healthy I can definitely live with running Tate or Bush out as my #2 (though Bush is hurt now, too, but he should be good to go for the playoffs). If Foster's hurt I have Blue to sub in for him, which isn't terrible, but it means I'm running a #2 and #3-ish guy out there.
In theory having Rodgers and three elite WRs should cover for all that, and then some, but the lack of depth there does represent a weakness if several things decide to go wrong all at once (as they often do).
'Course, pretty much everyone's got some shakiness at RB.
rauldc14
11-15-14, 06:02 PM
Hmm, I remember the Steelers losing the division to Cincinnati on a triple-tiebreak (they won the Super Bowl anyway), but it wasn't points. Points isn't higher than the 6th tiebreaker in any situation. I'm not sure it's ever come into play. Still a good point, though!
Nah, it was further back then that. I want to say 1997 or 1998. May have been Titans/Oilers if not Steelers
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