THAT Micheal Jackson Interview

[blibblobblib]

Hey, Not sure if u peeps in the US will get it, i should imagine you will but did anyone see the Martin Basheer (The same guy who did the infamous interview with Princess Di before her death) interview with Micheal Jackson on ITV1 tonight?
this guy got totally into jackos life over a period of 8 months. it was incredible. he went to his theme park, Neverland and everything.
It was excellant, really made me see a totally new approach to the strange phenomenon that is the Jacko. Poor guy, i feel quite sorry for him really. :(

[Jonny Goodboy]

Taped it.
Be sure to let you know when I check it out.

[LordSlaytan]

Originally posted by blibblobblib
Hey, Not sure if u peeps in the US will get it, i should imagine you will but did anyone see the Martin Basheer (The same guy who did the infamous interview with Princess Di before her death) interview with Micheal Jackson on ITV1 tonight?
this guy got totally into jackos life over a period of 8 months. it was incredible. he went to his theme park, Neverland and everything.
It was excellant, really made me see a totally new approach to the strange phenomenon that is the Jacko. Poor guy, i feel quite sorry for him really. :(

In the states, a newsmagazine show called 20/20 will be airing an hour long interview. I saw a clip yesterday, he denies getting a nose job and denies getting "whited". I really can't stand whako jacko. :sick:

[r3port3r66]

Here in the US, we've just started "February Sweeps". That's when television turns out its grossest, most controversial shows, trying to get as many TV viewers as possible to watch their network.

This interview is just another attempt by ABC to get viewership. Well, I gotta say--it worked!! I'm going to watch this interview because I think MJ is psycho. Especially if he's saying he never had his nose done, or he is not trying to be white. It will be interesting for sure....

I also like Jerry Springer. Don't ask me why, I just do.

Jonny G. we'll talk after I watch it.

[n7of9]

it was just aired in sydney....2 hour show...i feel kinda irked by the whole thing

he started off sounding normal, even lovable and sweet, but by the end of it they showed him to be all weird again...denying he has had surgery (only admitting to having a nose job cause it makes him breath and sing better), saying that he hasn't done anything else to his face and that his face is different from 20 years ago because he just "grew" and "changed"

i would be scared to be near him...it was not a pleasant show :(

[MyRobotSuit]

I can't believe he thinks sleeping with children is a beautiful thing. He went as far to say that people who don't want to do this are wacky. He also said that he wants to live forever when asked the option on how his death is daled with.

I feel sorry for the guy, it seems he has been living his childhood all his life and just hasn't hadn't the guidance needn't to break this suspension.

[blibblobblib]

I just found my self feelin so sorry for him after the interview. i honestly think he doesnt see any harm in sleeping with these kids. I really dont think theres anything sexual in it at all, i mean he cannot understand why the whole world isnt doing it (Mind you, half of all the celebrities in Britain are sleeping with kids anyway so his got Britains vote!)
I cant understand how he has never had a good enough friend to take him to one side and say, "Look Micheal, You look like a weirdo, whats with your face, make ya self a bit more normal and sleeping with Kids can be seen as VERY WRONG." Poor Wacko. :(

[Yoda]

Originally posted by miniontv
I can't believe he thinks sleeping with children is a beautiful thing. He went as far to say that people who don't want to do this are wacky.
Sleep sleep, or sleep sleep? Because it's not unusual for parents to sleep in the same bed as their children. It used to be fairly commonplace, and I don't find anything particularly disturbing about it. Unless they're, perhaps, someone else's kids, or unless you don't really mean "sleep" at all, in which case I find it hard to believe he openly supported it.

That said, I'm sure as hell gonna watch, too. I sympathize with him a great deal. Concerning the nose: I don't think he's denying have had surgery, so much as a "nose job," whch is kinda different.

[Jonny Goodboy]

Well,it`s hard to have anything but sympathy for the guy for the first half of the show,as he delves deeper than he ever has before into his abused childhood.
His dad was a right evil B@stard,who not only wielded his Iron fist to Michael,but equally to his petrified Brothers too.
As a result,his Childhood was lost,and that,in a Nutshell is what he`s living right now.

But he has no doubt lost track of what goes on in the Real World.
44 year old dudes simply don`t hold hands and sleep in the same bedroom with someone elses`s 12 year old kid-especially 44 year olds who were accused of Kiddy Fiddling while in the same situation 10 years earlier.
He honestly doesn`t see no harm in it and I believe he believes that when he ses so.
He`s getting to play the Big Brother he never was.

Personally,I hope it doesn`t all backfire on him and he is on the level.
Can`t help feeling for his kids either...How screwed up are they going to be?

Look forward to seeing what you think R66.

[Caitlyn]

I’ve seen a few of the clips from this interview and in all honesty, I don’t care to see anymore because I don’t particularly feel sorry for him… the “innocent” guy who got away with singing “Quench my desire” while grabbing his crotch to the tune of millions knows how to play the game or he wouldn’t have lasted 30 some odd years in the music business… to me he has treated the general public like they were idiots for years with all his denials about his plastic surgery and he was not the only child to grow up in an abusive household… “The Man in the Mirror” needs to take a good long look in his mirror and realize he is supposed to be a grown man responsible for three very real children… they are the ones I feel sorry for along with the hundreds of other children born to parents apparently stupid enough to let them in the same room with him much less in the same bed…

[LordSlaytan]

As long as there are people who are poor and stupid, there will be people who prostitute their children for profit.

Of course I have no way of knowing if that has happened, but it seems logical given the circumstances, that some have. I DO NOT feel sorry for MJ whatsoever. If I, and all the rest of us, have to take responsibility for the choices we've made in our lives without any pity, then he should as well. When I was a youngin' I liked him a lot. I was in Jr. High when Thriller came out, but then he changed. I may have still liked his music (or some at least) but I quit liking him. Now I can't stand anything about him, music included. I think he's a sick, sick man, who knows he's sick, but is attempting to manipulate the veiwers with these interviews. To me, it proves his total lack of respect for people that belong to the real world, that he would say such preposterous things with a straight face and expect us to believe it.

For shame MJ. For shame.

[Yoda]

I still support sympathy for him. I forget who said it, I'm of the mindset that we should be be very forgiving of others, but not very forgiving of ourselves. He makes his own choices, yes, but his judgement was clearly impaired to some degree from an early age.

He should still be held accountable, but I view his ridiculous behavior as more misguided than evil.

[LordSlaytan]

Sorry if I ranted, but being a victim of a pedophile for three years of my young life, gives me a real reason to have no pity for someone like that. Boo-Hoo, he was abused, so it's forgivable for him to ruin a whole lot of children's lives because he's so pitiful. Bull****!!!

He pisses me off, and I haven't seen any interview either. Just what's in the paper. I couldn't stomach looking at that freak for more than a minute. And before somebody accuses me of being racist, or unforgiving, I'm not. I just don't have ANY tolerance for pedo's!

HANG 'EM ALL!!!!!!

[Caitlyn]

Originally posted by LordSlaytan

I just don't have ANY tolerance for pedo's!


I totally agree... I have two friends who have spent most of their teen and early adult years in and out of mental institutions because they were victims of a pedophile... not only have they had to cope with the fact they were molested they have had to suffer through the stigmatism associated with being in a mental institution…


Edited to add: BTW… I didn't think you went on a rant at all... but if you did, so did I... ;)

[Austruck]

The interview is on here in the U.S. Thursday night on ABC. Stuff that's been leaked to the U.S. media about the interview and comments since include that Macauley and Kieran Culkin were among the kids in Michael's bed from time to time.

Now Gloria Allred is calling for an investigation into all this, including asking any children who've been left by parents at Michael's house to give accounts for their time there ... just to be sure. She is apparently concerned that Michael is only telling part of the story.

I will watch it to see for myself. It is a shame it's during a sweeps week because I hate to buy into that whole sensationalistic part of things. But, I'd rather see it for myself than hear things secondhand later. Am very curious how he comes off on camera.

Considering the guy is three years older than I am, and has nearly as many children as I do, I think the man has serious SERIOUS security issues he's never dealt with. I mean, I adore my children, and when they were infants I would nurse them to sleep with me. But infants being fed so Mom can sleep are a far cry from teenagers and preteens.

And frankly, I much prefer sleeping with my husband, thankyouverymuch! No kids allowed!

Linda

[LordSlaytan]

I agree Linda. Both my daughters napped in my arms when they were very small. But from what I've read, Michael is tucking them in, reading to them, giving them warm milk, and then nightie night. Wow, he's talking about someone Gracie's age. Who's he trying to fool? When my oldest hit 7 years old, it was the end of the, "constantly on Daddy's lap" thing. I haven't slept with either of my kids since they were two, and I only did it then out of necessity due to lack of bedding for all concerned.

I don't care, and I really do stress the word care, that he was abused. I was abused, so was one in every three of us here at MoFo, statistically. That does not get you a pity pass as an adult. If you're screwed up, then self-destruct, I'll feel sorry for you then, but if you turn into a victimizer, then the gloves are off.

John Wayne Gacy was abused as a child....

[The Silver Bullet]

...so was one in every three of us here at MoFo...

I would find it extremely interesting to run a sort of poll regarding this for anyone who is open enough to talk about such things.

I have never been abused and have always belonged to a very loving and supporting family and so I find such things to be incredibly interesting and saddening. I'm very much into psychology and such, so when someone says something like this, that they've been abused or what have you, I always wonder how they have become who they are [especially when the said person is someone as wonderful as Slay here]. My interest may be a little morbid for some, but such things really do get to my interest ducts. Yes. My interest ducts.

[Austruck]

Well, and Slay, there is still a big difference here: These aren't Jackson's own kids! These are other people's kids! Think of some 40-something neighbor you know. Now think of your kids going over there for a sleepover ... and not bunking on the floor in sleeping bags with their preteen friend, giggling. No, think of them crawling in bed with THE NEIGHBOR.

Sorry, "family bed" in Europe or not, these kids aren't his family. Someone with his history of paying people off in the millions to keep quiet about this very type of issue ought to know better, if only for the sake of his reputation.

He needs help. It is a shame no one is making him get it.

Silver, I too came from a normal, nonabusive household (aside from the mom who yelled at us to CLEAN UP OUR ROOMS!, but hey, that's normal). I do know that traumatic life events for me as an adult truly did change me. I cannot imagine what horrific abusive events would do to a child still forming. Jackson's past should make him more sensitive to these issues, not less.

[LordSlaytan]

Linda, there's no difference on whose kids, there own or others, to a pedo. I understand that he was talking about other children than his own as well as his, that's what makes it all the more disgusting to me. I'm disgusted with the parents that allow it.

[Austruck]

Did you just watch the interview? I did. I'm more disturbed than I was before seeing it. He went so far as to say that people who see anything wrong with having kids sleep in other people's beds are wacky. (His word.)

The interviewer expressed grave concerns for any vulnerable child who'd end up there, if only from a psychological standpoint.

I'm sorry, but the guy gives me the creeps. You're right about the pedo thing. But even if they could prove Jackson wasn't actually a sexual pedophile, he's still mentally disturbed regarding children, and it shows. He's messing up any kid who stays at his house like that.

He needs to learn how to handle himself in the adult world. Hey, I have to live and work and function in the real world. So should he. He's 44, for cryin' out loud.

[Sir Toose]

Originally posted by LordSlaytan

I don't care, and I really do stress the word care, that he was abused. I was abused, so was one in every three of us here at MoFo, statistically. That does not get you a pity pass as an adult. If you're screwed up, then self-destruct, I'll feel sorry for you then, but if you turn into a victimizer, then the gloves are off.

John Wayne Gacy was abused as a child....



Slaytan for President!

I love you, man.

[jrs]

You got my vote LS.!

Peace.

[r3port3r66]

Well...where to begin?

I saw the MJ interview last night, and to my surprise a lot of questions were answered. For one, I don't think the accusations of molestation are true. It seems to me that MJ is still a child, or would like to be, and therefore lingers around those he considers "peers". I think he truly loves children, and thinks that smothering them with love is somehow going to make them better people, and more accepting of him. That's a little wierd, but I used to have a "favorite" aunt as a kid, that I could talk to about anything. She used to take me to the amusement park, and at times, when I would sleep over, would let me take her bed, while she slept close by. It wasn't sick or disgusting; it was loving and nice. I trusted her. Perhaps these children are trusting of MJ, they can see he means no harm and they look upon him as "one of them". Besides there are plenty of instances in real life where parents let their children become exposed to "well meaning" legends.
Take Santa Claus for instance. That large, old man whose lap parents let their children sit upon once a year. That seems a little strange, given the fact children are taught not to do such things with strangers. And lets face it; anyone could be under that Santa suit! Further, we teach kids that it's OK for Saint Nick to invade our homes come Christmas eve!
Here are a few others that kids are taught to trust: The Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, a Minister, a Police officer.
I'm not saying that I agree with what MJ is doing, but I have to question those making judgements about him, when I think he is as harmless as Santa Claus and the North Pole. And someone can argue that they know the truth about Santa, and to that I would have to ask, why then lead children to believe he is real. Because he is loving? Trustworthy? Because you loved him as a kid?

MJ is just a child, reaching out for acceptance. He collects amusement park rides, so what? He climbs trees. Big deal, more mature men find solace in bungee jumping. He has had plastic surgery. Big deal. Everyone is a little vane, and people in Hollywood do it all the time. He is overly loving in a non-sexual way; why is that so bad?

I was never abused as a child either. I did however come from a non-traditional family environment (my mother was a single, working person), and she had a few boyfriends. She always protected my from them.

I think MJ needs help, yes. I think he needs serious help. But that's only because in this society we may teach love, but in reality love is only supposed to come from a mother, father, sister or brother..oh, and Santa.

[LordSlaytan]

R3port3r, I agree with you somewhat. He honestly does seem harmless. However, that doesn't mean that he is. Maybe he hasn't touched any children, but maybe he has. Whatever the truth is, he needs to be stopped from having children sleep over. I would rather err on the side of caution.

I feel sorry for his kids. I have a feeling that they will be some really screwed up cookies, and probably won't even be able to notice it.

[Austruck]

I think Jackson has a real fear of living in the adult world. It seems obvious he is petrified of any intimate relationships that involve adults. He himself feels safer around children and only trusts them, not adults.

This to me speaks volumes about his maturity, which is dreadfully lacking. That alone makes him dangerous around children -- this innocent-like naivete so deep that he himself would never know if he were harming anyone. No matter what he's done or not done, he truly believes none of it would ever be considered harmful.

He needs to learn how to deal with adults and live in their world. What is going to happen to his relationships with his children once they grow up themselves? Assuming they turn out halfway normal and adult, he'll never be able to relate to them.

It truly is sad, and sickening. It was a disturbing interview.

[evad]

ok, hello everyone, i never watched the interview, and don't follow michael jackson very much, but i can remember him when i was a kid, and man he could rock. You have to give gredit where it's due and he has soul, for lack of a better word.
concerning the child molestation charges that seemed to dissapear after some sort of monetary settlement, i have never thought of michael jackson as a pedifile after that. my reasons are many:
-firstly, he was never convicted. this fact seems to over pass a lot of people, but like it or not you are inocent until proven guilty. this is because as you all know, any old money grubbing low life"especially in the states" can sue and counter sue and allege charges until the cows come home. it doesn't mean it's true.
-secondly, lets say that Michael did do this dispicable thing. Nothing excuses that, but if this is the case, then this poor childs parents didn't seem to mind as soon as money came into the picture. I read earlier someone elude to the fact that Michael is not related to these children, but the parents are of course, which makes this hypothetical exploitation even more discusting in my view. Why do people not look at this as well?
-third, and this ties into my previous sentence, Michael is a famous rich person. This opens him up to a lot of things that you and I will never understand. one of those things id fraudulant degenerate looking for oppertunity. Sure they are everywhere, but money attracts these parasites like honey to a bee, and the fact that any monetary settelment was reached, concerning such a delicate and personal situation, causes me to question motives, on both sides i guess. Michael states that he doesn't wish to draw out a bad publicity situation, but it makes you wonder if he's hiding something. the fact that he stated that he slept in the same bed as another child shows, that he knows that others look down on it, but he believes his inocence and doesn't think others will understand, which i guess they don't. I'm not saying it's right to sleep in the same bed with preteens and children that you don't know, but if it's not sexual, then what's the big deal. Have there been any other alligations since this earlier mentioned point, or has Michael silenced them all with his power and evil intentions? lol.
well this is about all i can think of right now, please reply and tell me what YOU think. thanx.

[r3port3r66]

Evad, I'm in agreement with you on most of what you've stated. But, had you in fact watched the interview you might understand where people might be disturbed. The interviewer did spend 8 months with Michael, and it seems, talent or not, that MJ has deep issues which he will not, or can not explore. I think Micheal suffers from a "God-complex" honestly. He stated that he was "Peter Pan". Not that he wanted to be like "Peter Pan", but that in fact he is Peter Pan; a character with magical abilities which can make children fly, just by believing in him. One is reminded of the story "The Pied Piper".

Now, as I've stated before, I don't see anything wrong with sharing love with children as long as you don't take advantage of them, but I think most parents--especially in the world today--would think it too good to be true that a 44 year old man would want to spend so much time with children.

[evad]

interesting.
You make very valid points. I thought it was a good idea to say i never watched the interview, to show where i'm coming from and what i am aware of in terms of public views. But i have caught a lot of the hooplah on the T.v as of late. My mentioning of my memories of Michael back in the day was entirely nostalgic and wasn't factual or logical, it was just a way to show you where i'm coming from i guess. I agree with you though that regarless of his talents, it don't change his mental state, but it invokes the old adadge: there is a fine line between genious and insanity.
thank you for replying so quickly, i am sooooo bored.

[wolverine]

Mr. Michael Jackson invited Mr. Bashir into his life, to give a candid view of the man that he is.

Michael bore all, told all. He was painfully honest, bordering on naivete even. Bashir took advantage or this to deeply hurt Michael and his funs.

Mr. Bashir is a journalist. All he is supposed to do is ask the questions and let the public make judgement. Instead he stopped simply asking questions and started asking them and answering them at the same time. That was unprofessional and unethical.

Now that Michael has said all, leave him alone. Let him be.

Some of us still believe that HE IS THE KING. No matter what.

[r3port3r66]

Thursday night (2/20/03) on Fox (check local listings) in the US, Micheal Jackson will get the last word. Evidently MJ was taping Bashir's interview with his own camera crew. The special promises to shed some new light on Bashir's now well-publicized attitude toward Micheal.
In this version of the interview, Bashir (off camera) can be heard praising Micheal's relationship with his children, as well as his parenting techniques.
Which is in stark contrast to what Bashir originally said about MJ after the now famous interview. After that interview, he called MJ's actions "disturbing" and "sad". Sounds like a stunt to me, but we'll see....I'll be watching.

[Sir Toose]

I watched the whole thing.

I think MJ is being honest about the sleeping with kids thing. From what I saw he's eccentric... but not dangerous to anyone. I like him much better now than I did before I saw the interview.

For the record... Bashir's an @sshole.

[Sir Toose]

Originally posted by Sexy Celebrity


Not MORE Michael Jackson specials....... Christ, this is just too much. How many more words can there be left? Last night, I saw two Michael Jackson specials, from 8 PM to 11 PM. God... by 9:30, I was dying for it to end. From what I saw, it seems like Michael Jackson HAS molested boys in the past.

Is it ever going to end? What's next? Let me think:

The Michael Jackson Show ~ his own weekly reality show, like the Osbournes and Anna Nicole.

Wanna Marry Michael Jackson? ~ Michael's looking for a single bride-to-be who must be non-physical and already has kids.

Jackson Millionaire ~ Is Michael Jackson really a millionaire or is he now dead ass broke?

Plastic Surgery Clue ~ Who got the nose job? Was it Joan Rivers in the hospital with the scalpel? Was it Cher in the clinic with the tweezers? Was it Michael Jackson in the psycho ward with the razor? You find out.

Tear Factor ~ Watch as Michael Jackson does gross, disgusting, SCARY things that make him cry -- like have sex with a woman!


:rotfl: Poor Tatum O'Neal...

[Austruck]

Those were hilarious! Thanks for a good laugh. Needed it.

:)