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If anyones interested in trading, heeeeere we go with the thread!
I however, am not :D
If anyones interested in trading, heeeeere we go with the thread!
I however, am not :D
I feel like I'll be quoting this back to you dozens of times before the season's out.
The Sci-Fi Slob
03-16-14, 04:29 PM
FBB?
rauldc14
03-16-14, 04:47 PM
My team sucks. I'm in for a trade.
My team sucks. I'm in for a trade.
Take a look at my team. I like Kemp, Freeman, and Mccann.
Come on Tongo, you know you want David Price!
Powdered Water
03-16-14, 05:11 PM
Gonna try to get Mark to do a deal if at all possible. Offer sent, buddy.
rauldc14
03-16-14, 05:39 PM
Why the hell it didn't draft me ANY pitching is beyond me.
mikeython1
03-16-14, 05:46 PM
You got plenty pitching Cueto,Weaver,Lester,Masterson,Sabathia,Kluber.
Powdered Water
03-16-14, 05:47 PM
Those are just names. He wants all the good stats... now!
mikeython1
03-16-14, 05:48 PM
Cueto, Weaver, and Lester are pretty good.
rauldc14
03-16-14, 05:49 PM
Ahhh. I missed cueto. I'm looking at my phone at work.
Powdered Water
03-16-14, 05:50 PM
I'd be happy to have Cueto. Actually meant to try and draft him but got distracted, I think.
This just in!!! I did a deal with Mark F!!! Might be a dumb move but Kuma was great last year. I just hope he'll be able to pitch before May. I am such a ridiculous homer.
Well I drafted someone thats getting Tommy John surgery - DOH'!
Wont be trading to replace Patrick Corbin though. Thankfully he was my lowest end pitcher.
mikeython1
03-16-14, 08:36 PM
First trade is up. RW9 trading Ryu to The Dodgers for Iwakuma. I think RW9 is getting the better end of the deal.
Powdered Water
03-16-14, 09:01 PM
I might. Kuma's not set to go for another month or two. I might have made a trade for someone who won't pitch. Ya never know. :laugh:
rauldc14
03-16-14, 11:19 PM
Tongs is going to hate me, but I offered him a trade.
Beltran for Grilli is a great offer, but Im holding pat right now. Balfour has complained about a "dead arm" and David Robertson has a slim chance of falling apart with consistent 9th inning duties.
rauldc14
03-16-14, 11:40 PM
Beltran for Grilli is a great offer, but Im holding pat right now. Balfour has complained about a "dead arm" and David Robertson has a slim chance of falling apart with consistent 9th inning duties.
No prob Tongs. As usual, I'm just hunting for another closer.
No prob Tongs. As usual, I'm just hunting for another closer.
I went pretty strong on offense this draft, so Beltran has less appeal to me. Try another owner with 3 closers, and I bet you they'd bite. Beltrans solid.
rauldc14
03-17-14, 05:49 PM
Don't mind him, just that I unconventionally only have 1 closer.
Open to offers. I probably wont move on any, and thats including the good ones. I just rethought my position and statements Ive made of not trading. No declarations, and just let it ride.
I also am open to offers (I'm the Fontenots). I usually at least wait until the season starts, but I'm looking for more offense. I sent Mikey an offer, Ervin Santana for a certain Cuban 1B. We'll see how it goes.
rauldc14
03-19-14, 09:51 PM
Syj I'm interested in getting a closer from ya. Feel free to send me something.
mikeython1
03-19-14, 10:15 PM
I also am open to offers (I'm the Fontenots). I usually at least wait until the season starts, but I'm looking for more offense. I sent Mikey an offer, Ervin Santana for a certain Cuban 1B. We'll see how it goes. Sorry. There is big hype for Jose Abreu. It's also nice to be able to cheer on a hometown guy! http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/happy/cheering-clapping-smiley-emoticon.gif
Powdered Water
03-20-14, 03:38 AM
Solid offer Dustin, just had to say no man. Thanks.
Sent a trade offer to Rauld of Torii Hunter & Jason Grilli for Wil Myers. Hoping for any response.
He did! Were haggling, or more like Im trying too haggle :( Doubt things will happen, but we'll see.
Im proposing Matt Holliday for Wil Myers straight-up. Offer sent...........
No reason to narrate the offers as they're happening. I know Dex liked to do that, but I never really got the logic behind it, unless you think they're checking the thread but not their team.
rauldc14
03-25-14, 05:57 PM
Sorry tongs.
rauldc14
03-25-14, 05:57 PM
No reason to narrate the offers as they're happening. I know Dex liked to do that, but I never really got the logic behind it, unless you think they're checking the thread but not their team.
It adds suspense
Ive always liked narrating the offers cause it give a real gauge on where an owners thinkings at on trading. Including me. As the Associated Press releases rumors and talks of pending trades, the trading block thread is the source of league hub-bub too.
Okay then. Not really my thing, but if it's yours, rock on.
rauldc14
03-25-14, 06:02 PM
When does the season start again? (I mean other then that goofy dodgers-dbacks series)
Monday March 31st, and then the next day a bunch of teams have off :confused: then on April 2nd everyones playing from then on.
I am willing to move Jose Reyes. He has a mild strain in his hammy and is day to day. Hasnt been ruled out for Opening Day. Im looking for an exceptional starting pitcher, and no need to submit a shortstop with him as I have Alexei Ramirez.
http://pregame.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/communityserver-blogs-components-weblogfiles/00-00-00-00-64/1854.blue_2D00_jays_2D00_dugout_2D00_celebrating.jpg
I am willing to move Jose Reyes. He has a mild strain in his hammy and is day to day. Hasnt been ruled out for Opening Day. Im looking for an exceptional starting pitcher, and no need to submit a shortstop with him as I have Alexei Ramirez.
http://pregame.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/communityserver-blogs-components-weblogfiles/00-00-00-00-64/1854.blue_2D00_jays_2D00_dugout_2D00_celebrating.jpg
...and the reaction....
http://moopz.com/assets_c/2013/05/underwhelmed-cropped-thumb-620x300-408119.png
:laugh:
Eh. I have some interest, but barring a huge lineup hole it seems better to wait until we've got a few weeks worth of the season in. A lot of our preconceptions about the strengths and weaknesses of our teams are going to be upended in short order, anyway.
mikeython1
03-26-14, 10:17 PM
I'm interested in Reyes even though he scares the beegeezers out of me. What are you looking for ?
Verlander straight up work for you?
mikeython1
03-26-14, 10:27 PM
That is a little to much to give up. I will send you some offers on the league site.
rauldc14
03-31-14, 07:02 PM
I got 4 closers now...
Give me one without myers in the deal :)
Give me one without myers in the deal :)
Sorry but I want Myers.
Anyone want a closer Im trying to unload one with Lance Lynn OR Tony Cingrani for a star pitcher,
or Wil Myers. :D
I won't be one of your enablers. :)
rauldc14
03-31-14, 11:28 PM
I predict Myers as a top 20 offensive player this season.
I predict Myers as a top 20 offensive player this season.
He could be a top 20 outfielder, but offensive player overall? No.
Jose Reyes is on the DL so if someone wants to get a elite shortstop on the cheap to stash away later, Im looking for a great starting pitcher.
Also if the offer is strong enough I'd be willing to package Reyes with Lance Lynn or Tony Cingrani.
Oh! I got 4 closers too so I can spare one. So if anyone wants a closer, Jose Reyes, Reyes with a pitcher, or whatever the combination - send me an offer :)
Sent an offer to Raul that he sent me earlier. With the extra closer now I can afford one.
rauldc14
04-01-14, 07:03 PM
Eh, what the hell. I believe in Ozuna. Accepted.
rauldc14
04-01-14, 10:27 PM
I should have added CC to the deal
Ill be honest, but I didnt really need Beltran. Thing is 4 closers seems redundant (I couldve grabbed K-Rod too but didnt. That would've been 5 closers :facepalm:). Beltran will help, and it'd be beautiful if he resurged like Soriano did last year with the Yankees. I love looking at how stacked my offense is now :laugh:.
Dont see those Jose Reyes offers coming guys. Whatsupwitdat?! :p What a disappointment, but would it have been better if I held out and grabbed Derek Jeter late? lol! Oh man if Jeter outperforms him this season Reyes name will be Mud! Thank you for being steady Alexei Ramirez.
rauldc14
04-01-14, 11:41 PM
It was Jose Reyes. Now it's Hosed Reyes.
rauldc14
04-01-14, 11:42 PM
I only gave up Beltran because I believe in Ozuna and a Matt Kemp resurge. And my obvious desperation for a closer.
mikeython1
04-02-14, 10:00 PM
The trade is pretty even.:up: Grilli's O-Rank is 106 and Beltran's is 100. They are both 95% owned in Yahoo leagues. If Raul needed a closer then he got the better end of the deal.Ill be honest, but I didnt really need Beltran. But I think you needed Beltran more than you think. He is arguably your third best outfielder(toss up between him and Hunter) and is a big upgrade over De Aza and Byrd.
mikeython1
04-02-14, 10:25 PM
Thank you for being steady Alexei Ramirez. He is very consistent. He also gets better as the season goes on. Like many Latin players he does not play as well in the cooler temperatures. The hotter it gets, the hotter Ramirez gets.
The trade is pretty even.:up: Grilli's O-Rank is 106 and Beltran's is 100. They are both 95% owned in Yahoo leagues. If Raul needed a closer then he got the better end of the deal. But I think you needed Beltran more than you think. He is arguably your third best outfielder(toss up between him and Hunter) and is a big upgrade over De Aza and Byrd.
Yeah he will help me. Now I need to just focus on pitching. Hope Balfours not gonna do a nosedive or Ill feel foolish losing Grilli. Either way a closer's worth losing for a top OF like Beltran.
Interesting thing about a player you mentioned. When I won in 2011 it was head to head, and I was up against a blue chip freight train Yoda had.. I rotated the "streaks of the week" and won it. Look at that squad and you'd have to laugh as its mostly C-listers. The only ball player I recognize from that final squad - Alejandro De Aza. He's gonna stick, and very capable of being a 20-20 ballplayer.
Me and Yoda are in talks involving McCutchen. Hopefully more to come.....
http://www.totalsportslive.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/CUTCH.jpg
Deal is done. Its a big one, but a fair one.
I traded away to Yoda Andrew McCutchen & Matt Holliday for Adam Jones & Alex Rios.
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/A-Jones.jpg
rauldc14
04-07-14, 07:11 PM
I see you got Adam Jones tongo I like that trade
mikeython1
04-07-14, 08:14 PM
Pretty crazy stuff this early in the season! Yoda gets probably got his favorite Buc out of this deal! It's so nice to have a hometown guy to track especially one of McCutchen's caliber. I honestly think that Yoda has the slight edge on this deal but it definitely is fair. This trade could and probably will seriously alter the the final outcome of the season! Congrats to both of you on making such a ballsy decision this early on the year! I know I would not be able to have pulled the trigger if I was on either end of this deal. :nope:
Its very even, but what made me want to act finally was that I could watch Jones & Rios throughout the season (being an american league fan), and wouldnt have been able to with Cutch & Holliday.
Yeah, it was a really tough choice. I work pretty hard to avoid falling into homerism, but when the deal's pretty much a coin flip anyway, it'll do fine as a marginal tiebreaker. That and getting the best player in the deal convinced me to pull the trigger.
I think the fulcrum is probably Rios, who I actually thought was a huge draft day steal. Giving him up gave me the most pause, since Jones and Cutch both seem like blue chip guys at this point. Wouldn't shock me if he has a great year. But the most likely outcome, I think, is something in the general range of a wash. Guess we'll find out. :)
Good deal Tongs.
Powdered Water
04-08-14, 12:09 AM
Whatever, homer...
rauldc14
04-08-14, 12:11 AM
Maybe I can entice Tongs with Freeman and Zobrist...
Maybe I can entice Tongs with Freeman and Zobrist...
Firm no.
rauldc14
04-08-14, 12:37 AM
Well my team sucks, was worth a shot.
http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/david-ortiz1.jpg?w=420
David Ortiz is on the Block. Im looking for a great Starter (SP).
Well my team sucks, was worth a shot.
You've really taken up permanent residence in Goofy Town with these early season reactions, dude.
rauldc14
04-14-14, 06:15 PM
I don't think Sabathia, Weaver, and Masterson are going to get any better. In fact thinking of cutting them, and definitely benching them for a bit.
I don't think Sabathia, Weaver, and Masterson are going to get any better. In fact thinking of cutting them, and definitely benching them for a bit.
Why are you posting this here? Are they on the trading block?
Send me an offer for Sabathia. Dont drop him.
rauldc14
04-15-14, 07:51 PM
Was going to drop Sabathia, but I'll take a chance on Garza
Making an offer to Sean for Clayton Kershaw. I need pitching so bad Ill take hurt ones :laugh: Funny, but if Kershaw pitched right now, hurt as he is, he'd still be better than Phil Hughes.
:rotfl: That's for the offer.
:rotfl: That's for the offer.
You dont think he'll be back?
Renewing my efforts for Kershaw. Decided to go all-in.
rauldc14
04-16-14, 03:18 PM
Ill be interested in what all in means.
rauldc14
04-16-14, 03:24 PM
I'm sure Sean will let me know:p
...and it is done. David Ortiz & Tony Cingrani are going to Seans Mudville Nine for Clayton Kershaw. Huzzah indeed :)
http://media.utsandiego.com/img/photos/2014/03/19/b9aad41e40cdb20c4f0f6a7067001699_r620x349.JPEG?75d51d0aea2efce5189afce216053cbc530c46a8
Hmmm, trying to think of the odds Cingrani is better than Kershaw this year...
Probably not great, but he will be pretty damn close. Did you watch the Rays game this weekend? Cingrani was the opposing hurler, and he looked RIDICULOUS. One of his better days, and he is pretty difficult to solve in that mode, from what I could tell. Everyone knows he has a savage 4-seam fastball, and he had that thing cranking Sunday. He used to throw change-ups a lot, but he seems to have moved that down to his third pitch, as he was leaning on a slider a lot the day I watched. It's a weird delivery, so batters seemed to get mixed up in their speed calculations as they tried to defend the plate. Trying to to think who to compare him to, as a guy with heat that plays with the corners all day...It's a strong approach, but hard to pull off if the fastball isn't working. That's the thing though...his fastball is SICK, and might be one of the best in the league right now...
I dunno man, I think you overpaid a bit... :-/
rauldc14
04-16-14, 05:04 PM
Another year, another year where Tongs trades for another persons 1st rounder. Not shocked.
Hmmm, trying to think of the odds Cingrani is better than Kershaw this year...
Probably not great, but he will be pretty damn close. Did you watch the Rays game this weekend? Cingrani was the opposing hurler, and he looked RIDICULOUS. One of his better days, and he is pretty difficult to solve in that mode, from what I could tell. Everyone knows he has a savage 4-seam fastball, and he had that thing cranking Sunday. He used to throw change-ups a lot, but he seems to have moved that down to his third pitch, as he was leaning on a slider a lot the day I watched. It's a weird delivery, so batters seemed to get mixed up in their speed calculations as they tried to defend the plate. Trying to to think who to compare him to, as a guy with heat that plays with the corners all day...It's a strong approach, but hard to pull off if the fastball isn't working. That's the thing though...his fastball is SICK, and might be one of the best in the league right now...
I dunno man, I think you overpaid a bit... :-/
Oh yeah I watched the game, and we made him look great. Hell, just today we made some pitcher in Baltimore look like a Kershaw/Tanaka lovechild. Rays cant even average 1.5 runs a game! :(
Aside from that Cingrani reminds me of Matt Moore. This will be a first full season for Cingrani, and hes been demolished once already by St Louis, and he also beat them another time handily. Moores first full season wasnt pretty. Also in spring Cingrani was awful.
I can spare Papi, and feel he may spend some time on the DL this season since he already is dealing with tight hamstrings from spring. Also the Red Sox look lost as an offense compared to last year.
If both of these guys perform like they did last year, then Sean does make out much better than I. Its just hard for me to feel like Im taking a chance when its Clayton Kershaw.
Not done yet!
Talking with 2 different owners involving Francisco Liriano.
rauldc14
04-18-14, 12:56 PM
Wil Myers, why you playing me like this?
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Anibal+Sanchez+Detroit+Tigers+Photo+Day+FXknJi-gPvxl.jpg
Me and Yoda have finalized a deal where I get Anibal Sanchez & Brett Lawrie for Dustin Pedroia. Good trade Chris :up:
George Springer to Tim, Michael Pineda to me.
http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/image-2.jpg
BabaBAM!!!!
Just finalized my third trade today, and second one with Tim. Giving up Adam Jones & Liriano for Tanaka & Moss. That should do it.
http://beforeitsnews.com/mediadrop/uploads/2014/04/95826d3fb9ec3c56d78165f1d9ce5e1c38908e1f.jpg
Tanaka's going to have to be something like a top 5 starting pitcher for that to work out for you.
Tanaka's going to have to be something like a top 5 starting pitcher for that to work out for you.
I honestly think he is, and on top of that the Yankees are gonna get him and Pineda wins.
Make no mistake, of all the trades Ive done already this season this one scares me the most, but Im confident I did the right thing.
I mean, Jones is a top 10 overall guy. Tanaka, if I had to bet, might not be a top 10 overall starter. So yeah, you're basically saying he has to be Darvish last year...and even then it'd probably be close to fair value.
We shall see. But I think "very slight win" is probably the best case scenario.
Just finalized my third trade today, and second one with Tim. Giving up Adam Jones & Liriano for Tanaka & Moss. That should do it.
http://beforeitsnews.com/mediadrop/uploads/2014/04/95826d3fb9ec3c56d78165f1d9ce5e1c38908e1f.jpg
Wait...what? Brandon Moss? He lives on the Waiver wire....
Someone just got fleeced...
rauldc14
04-18-14, 05:11 PM
Fricken joke. I actually was going to offer something along the lines of Myers and Lester for Adam Jones, which would have at least been better value than that.
rauldc14
04-18-14, 05:13 PM
Well, I'm not getting Jones this year anymore.
Fricken joke. I actually was going to offer something along the lines of Myers and Lester for Adam Jones, which would have at least been better value than that.
LOL @ you
rauldc14
04-18-14, 06:02 PM
Lol at me? Seriously you just got hosed!
Well, I'm not getting Jones this year anymore.
LOL @ you again.
rauldc14
04-18-14, 06:02 PM
Rachel's reaction
http://cdn4.gurl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/shocked-gif.gif
Lol at me? Seriously you just got hosed!
Dustin you are not an authority of good FBB judgement.
rauldc14
04-18-14, 06:07 PM
It's not just my judgement. Nobody would think that's a good trade Tongo. It's like me trading an underperforming Chris Davis for Julio Teheran
It's not just my judgement. Nobody would think that's a good trade Tongo. It's like me trading an underperforming Chris Davis for Julio Teheran
The fact you put Teheran in the same league as Tanaka proves my point. You have no idea what Im trying to accomplish, and Im not going to explain it to you.
rauldc14
04-18-14, 06:12 PM
http://bavatuesdays.com/files/2013/11/goodfellas-laugh-Henry-Hill.gif
http://bavatuesdays.com/files/2013/11/goodfellas-laugh-Henry-Hill.gif
Hm. Mad keyboard skills. Why are you in in the league? This isnt the Games & Tabs section Dustin. If youre not trying to win it then youre taking up space. Put a real effort into winning this year, and thats not a "Fricken joke".
Sorry if Im being huffy :)
GOOD CLEAN FIGHT.
I think ya'll have made your feelings known. Onward and upward and all that.
But by no means stop posting GIFs of people laughing. There's always room for that.
rauldc14
04-18-14, 06:45 PM
I'm done. I'm sorry. Moving on.
mikeython1
04-18-14, 07:41 PM
Tongo is a Fantasy Baseball Trading Machine! I give him credit, he definitely puts in a lot of hard work and research! I bet when Tongo was a little kid he probably had intense Baseball Card trading sessions going on.
http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=13731&d=1397860843
Made a deal with Sedai, and this will do me quite well on trading for awhile. I give him Anibal Sanchez and he gave me Michael Cuddyer. Now that I filled some of my loss of Adam Jones, for now all my players are off the block.
*Handshake*
Let's do this!!
rauldc14
04-21-14, 11:45 AM
All of my players are on the block except Freeman
Well! Cuddyer to the DL. I didnt think it was that bad but thats what thinking gets you.
I cant cry because I remember trading Dionne this same player back in 2012, and after the trade later in the afternoon it was announced he was going on the DL due to his neck. He was on the DL a looooong time then if I remember correctly. Guess it came around.
No Rauld Im not gonna trade away Jose Reyes for Kemp & Peralta.
Look at your standings Rauld, you need pitching.
rauldc14
04-21-14, 11:53 PM
Oh I know that. Just didn't think your pitching was available.
Oh I know that. Just didn't think your pitching was available.
Its not.
rauldc14
04-22-14, 12:01 AM
I'm in 6th, which is a pretty good position this early. It looks like my team may have some promise too. But there's always a chance for some wheel and deal for me. I'll be getting Machado back soon and I fully expect him to be a top 50 offensive threat. Myers and Davis will get going any minute, and Freeman, Zobrist, and Tulowitzki are already top 25 gems.
I have low stats in ERA and WHIP, but that is strictly due to both my BoSox getting hammered in their last two starts. And when i say hammered, I mean 20+ ERA hammered on the night. Damn. Hopefully the changes I am making get those stats back in order over the next month. The top end of my rotation is great, dialing up shutouts and the like, but the back end of my rotation is as bad as it gets right now. Sending Clay to the wire, btw...
Okay, I've deleted a handful of posts in this thread. Would really love to not have to do that again. :)
Ideally, you guys would start with a clean slate (only if you can do it for real, though). If that's not possible, then just sort of avoiding the touchy subjects altogether would probably be best.
Even though I traded George Springer to Tim for Michael Pineda Im interested inseing how he'll develop. Todays the day (4/22) I predicted would be his break out day. I checked Tims roster, and he has him slotted. Pineda goes tomorrow @ Boston.
rauldc14
04-23-14, 12:00 AM
Swung a trade with Patrick....getting Robinson Cano for Zobrist, Grilli, and Peralta.
Now I'll need another closer.
Cano is off to a rough start, but I see no reason he can't turn it around.
rauldc14
04-23-14, 12:10 PM
If you have a low end closer to spare, let me know. I need another one after shipping the grill master.
Santos is on the wire, but he has been getting knocked around a bit lately...
Speaking of bad closer situations, this write up of Houston Astros Josh Fields was funny...
"Unless you play in an AL-only league, it's just too hard to own a Houston reliever in fantasy. Fields would hold some intrigue if the ninth-inning job was his, but he's going to keep sharing it with Anthony Bass, Chad Qualls, Matt Albers, and the guy from Section 157 that Bo Porter ran into outside the stadium before the game."
Had to get rid of Grant Balfour. He loaded the bases, gave up grand slam to Abreau, and has to go bye bye. Not the first time he's loaded the bases either.
I gave up Balfour & Alfredo Simon to Loose Seals (Frightened Inmate #2) for Koji Uehara.
mikeython1
04-26-14, 07:04 PM
Had to get rid of Grant Balfour. He loaded the bases, gave up grand slam to Abreau, and has to go bye bye. Not the first time he's loaded the bases either.
I gave up Balfour & Alfredo Simon to Loose Seals (Frightened Inmate #2) for Koji Uehara.
http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/850040625.gif?1398486009
:p :laugh:
Needing a good Home Run hitter thats avg usually is over .250
Willing to deal Torii Hunter, Addison Reed, Drew Hutchison, and Collin McHugh. Willing to do a 2 for 1 trade but he'd have to be real good if you wanted Hunter & Reed..
^^^ You can add Michael Pineda to that list too, but Im not just giving him away just because Im disgusted in him ;)
rauldc14
04-29-14, 07:20 PM
McHugh is intriguing but I'm no good at these offer things.
Collin McHugh is intriguing. His first game he threw 12 K's in 6 innings, and was 2 outs shy of a complete game shutout the next.
"Astros pitching coach Brent Strom said McHugh isn't the same pitcher (http://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/astros/article/McHugh-comes-up-McHuge-as-Astros-top-A-s-5434053.php?t=8f286ac48e) he saw this spring, per The Houston Chronicle. "He's a different guy than I saw in spring," Strom said. "I didn't know much about him. He was sinking everything. Big sinker … trying to induce ground balls, and he was a high groundball pitcher."
McHugh has recorded 46 outs in his first two starts, but only six have come on groundballs. McHugh has been thriving thanks to his ability to work high up in the strike zone.
"The use of the four-seam fastball has been big for him, especially up in the zone, 'cause it sets up his bigger breaking ball and his little cutter,"
http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasybaseball/players/playerpage/2008572/collin-mchugh
So he might stay on my roster if no offers come and then he maintains longer. I need 6 starters...
1. Clayton Kershaw (back next week! :):):))
2. Masahiro Tanaka
3. Alex Cobb (one full month)
4. Kyle Lohse (very curious how he does vs St Louis tonight.)
I thought Pineda would be a sure stick. Now not so much. So the last 2 slots go between Pineda, McHugh, Hutchison, or Bauer (if he gets the call). Cobb needs another month so it should all get sorted by then.
Sent an offer to Inmate #2 of Alexei Ramirez for Brian Dozier. Think this may be an extremely close swap as theyre both achieving beyond their initial rankings.
Edit in - Got no response so I cancelled it.
Jose Reyes
http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/sports/2011/11/15/15_jreyes.o.jpg/a_560x375.jpg
:(
Sure if anybody wants to pay close to what his draft value was, I'd bite, but we all know that's not gonna happen. One of those situations where I got to sit him, and wait.And wait. And wait. IT'S BEEN 5 WEEKS!!! :laugh: Honestly I think he'll get it together, and Ill be patient, but only because of Alexei Ramirez.
Got two offers out with Addison Reed attached to Sedai and rauldc14. One of those "whoever accepts first wins" kinda deals :)
Edit in - Got no response on one, so Mike has two offers to pick from.
Yeah I made a trade with Yoda gave Reed & Ramirez for Melky & Rondon blah blah blah.
The interesting thing is I found some data on teams that have produced the most Save opportunities.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/pitching/type/expanded
rauldc14
05-05-14, 02:27 PM
I almost took the Alexei trade, but I had Tulowitzki, and it would have crippled my outfield. It was a fair offer though :up:
I sent Rauld a lil trade offer. Its little.
Powdered Water
05-05-14, 10:39 PM
You guys are a couple of goof balls. Weren't both of those guys on waivers... like... yesterday? :laugh:
rauldc14
05-05-14, 10:40 PM
I was going to cut Young. Frieri sucks but if he's going to get the closer role again at least I have both for now.
Young will probably go on a steal streak now.
Big risk. I traded to Adam Jose Reyes for newly aquired off waivers Curtis Granderson. Grandy came alive with his power this week and I desperately need it. Imo there is every reason to believe he can return to his 2012 form, and Ive too many doubts with Reyes.
Powdered Water
05-06-14, 12:45 AM
I literally have no words.
I literally have no words.
I
needed
power.
(and Adam beat me to Grandy on the wire.) Reyes numbers were improving, but he's yet to steal a base, which is what I drafted him for. Plus he's been so fragile. Grandersons numbers are surging now. I think this is sound.
Powdered Water
05-06-14, 12:51 AM
Funniest Mariner commercial in quite awhile I reckon...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrvrc0Sw9ww
I
needed
power.
If you have 40-something points, then you don't need power--you need everything. Which is leaving aside whether or not you can know what you "need" after one month. Lopsided category-specific trades make a lot of sense near the end of the year...and virtually no sense early in the year.
(and Adam beat me to Grandy on the wire.)
Can't imagine why that would matter.
rauldc14
05-06-14, 09:23 AM
I literally have no words.
I could have traded Granderson for Reyes!!!!??????
If you have 40-something points, then you don't need power--you need everything. Which is leaving aside whether or not you can know what you "need" after one month. Lopsided category-specific trades make a lot of sense near the end of the year...and virtually no sense early in the year.
Its not just one category with Homers as they affect runs & rbis also. Done & Dunn had very little SBs last season, and nor did Dexters squad the year before. Besides that Reyes hasnt stayed healthy in years, and hasnt stolen a bag all year. Ramirez was great but has cooled hard. Jhonny Peralta has a serious shot of being a top 10 shortstop, especially being on St Louis, and getting full playing time now.
Besides Longoria, Beltran (whose slumping), and maybe Hunter somewhat, I had no real power I could count on. Maybe Adam LaRoche, but Im not completely convinced he'll hit 30 + homers.
Now with Salty, Grandy, and Jhonny Peralta Im more confident. Loney, Cabrera, and Hunter will keep my avg strong. Ill treat just stolen bags by spot starting some speedy guy when they play. I got Eric Young and will get another in a month.
I could have traded Granderson for Reyes!!!!??????
He didnt start playing well till after you dropped him.
I don't think most of that really gets at what I was saying (you just flat-out can't know most of that stuff this early in the season, so listing the reasons you think it is beside the point), but it would take forever to unpack all the assumptions in there. I'm never going to talk you out of overreacting to things. ;)
I don't think most of that really gets at what I was saying (you just flat-out can't know most of that stuff this early in the season, so listing the reasons you think it is beside the point), but it would take forever to unpack all the assumptions in there. I'm never going to talk you out of overreacting to things. ;)
I comprehend what you are saying Chris. I was spelling out how I had no faith in my offense as was, and thats based on history from prior seasons. Btw, I spell out what Im doing as Im going along so nobody thinks it was just luck if I win it all :)
I just deleted my own post as spam...whoops!
rauldc14
05-06-14, 06:56 PM
It probably won't go through but we will see
It probably won't go through but we will see
Why wouldnt it go through? You hinting at something?
It might not go through because it's a really lopsided trade, obviously.
rauldc14
05-06-14, 07:39 PM
I sent a trade to Quickie Marte. Doubt he will like it, but ya never know.
It might not go through because it's a really lopsided trade, obviously.
Its not. Granderson was a top tier player til last year, and is coming alive now. I even traded to get him when he went on the DL last year (not knowing his year was truly screwed). Reyes didnt even hardly play last year. Now Grandys getting better and Reyes is still flat. People are way too hung up on how they were ranked before the draft. Know that if the draft was now that Reyes wouldnt be ranked 45 overall, and would be nearer to Granderson.
rauldc14
05-06-14, 07:42 PM
I think its a head scratcher.
I don't think there's a lot of point in me explaining why I think it's lopsided, because we're using entirely different methods of evaluation.
I don't think any argument based on a week's data has any merit at all, really, but that's the kind of thing you like to base a lot of conclusions on. As long as that's true, we'll simply be at an impasse.
I don't think there's a lot of point in me explaining why I think it's lopsided, because we're using entirely different methods of evaluation.
I don't think any argument based on a week's data has any merit at all, really, but that's the kind of thing you like to base a lot of conclusions on. As long as that's true, we'll simply be at an impasse.
Its NOT just a weeks data but Grandersons career we are talking about here. Jose Reyes career too. These are talents not far apart from each other.
I hope it goes thru fine because it should, and no other reason than that.
If we were talking about his career you wouldn't say he's "getting better," a phrase that only makes sense by extrapolating from this last week.
Most of the other reasons listed work against him, too. For example, the point that Reyes didn't play much last year--neither did Granderson. The idea that he has a track record--so does Reyes, and it's a better, longer one. Reyes is also 3 years younger, makes his downswing far less likely to be permanent. Not to mention that Granderson's now in one of the worst offensive ballparks in all of baseball.
Any trade can potentially work out for anyone, so all trades are about maximizing probabilities. And I just don't see any angle from which this does that. Sorry. Call 'em as I see 'em.
I know and thats why I repped your other post above. :)
Curtis Granderson hit 43 home runs in 2012, 43! He hit 41 in 2011. So I may be able to find a guy that can steal me bags much cheaper, but no way I can find a cheap option for that kind of power upside. Reyes has been on my bench mostly anyway (though he was slotted when he hit his 2 dingers, so thats cool).
Indeed, no way you can find a cheap option with 40-homer power upside...but you don't have that with Granderson any more, either. Not even with the most optimistic of predictions.
Both ESPN and Yahoo both have Reyes way ahead in their in-season rankings, by the way. And it's not close.
I don't really believe in vetoing trades if they're uneven. If Tongo thinks it's fair, and his trade partner does too, then bully for them. I think uneven trades are a part of good (and bad) fantasy baseball managing, as long as there is no underhanded funny business. With that said, Granderson just isn't that good anymore, and his 40 HR seasons were in large part because of Yankee Stadium and the favorable dimensions for left-handed power hitters. I'd probably guess he'd hit 20 or so this year. But I'm not going to veto it. Do your thing Tongo!
Both ESPN and Yahoo both have Reyes way ahead in their in-season rankings, by the way. And it's not close.
If youre talking about how theyre presented in the Players page thats the same as the pre-draft rankings. If not could you please link me? Ive heard you mention these before.
Sure, here's one:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/may-top-300-overall-092500753--mlb.html
rauldc14
05-06-14, 11:29 PM
Sure, here's one:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/may-top-300-overall-092500753--mlb.html
Where's Granderson?
Never mind, I found him at 214.
Sure, here's one:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/may-top-300-overall-092500753--mlb.html
They have Reyes ranked 52?! 52?! What league are they playing in?! Thats just poppycock. Kemps 53 and he's been ass longer than Grandy. Grandy had an excuse as he was hurt and...oh screw it....
Thanks for the link though.
rauldc14
05-07-14, 12:04 AM
Kemp is playing 100x better than Granderson....I should know....I owned both....
Kemp is playing 100x better than Granderson....I should know....I owned both....
Yes but Granderson crashed into an outfield wall in spring training, and was playing thru some injuries in April. Over the last 14 days Grandy is ranked 110 overall in actual production, and Kemp 315.
Grandy is healed and Kemps problems are more untraceable. Maybe its between his ears, or he's off PEDs, who knows. Strange how he just became ho hum seemingly overnight.
Powdered Water
05-07-14, 12:33 AM
Plus, there's that whole thing and how he plays for the Mets. Have you seen the Mets? Not good. Not really. :nope:
Oh argle frickin bargle.... :dizzy:
If he ends up better than Jose Reyes going forward, Ill be happy. :)
Any set of rankings can be quibbled with, but the ranking difference is huge on two completely different sites. People can predict whatever they like, and anything can happen, but both the data and the experts form a pretty clear consensus on which side of the deal you'd want here.
I dont follow those ranking values as everything in deciding value. The ones that made that list also told us Bryce Harper was first round material. Its just conjecture, and when deciding between two name guys I mostly go with actual production.
I have no trade offers out.
That is all.
I dont follow those ranking values as everything in deciding value. The ones that made that list also told us Bryce Harper was first round material.
That's a pretty goofy example given that he got hurt and there's no way to reliably predict injuries in players without a history of them.
But sure, you can cherry pick rankings that miss the boat on a guy. But most of the time they don't. Most of the time significantly better-ranked players outperform significantly lower-ranked ones. That's not a coincidence. And we're talking about a massive gap in both rankings, well beyond the vagaries that might place someone higher or lower in a given range.
Its just conjecture, and when deciding between two name guys I mostly go with actual production.
There are tons of examples where this hasn't been true, and I'll bet I can come up with a dozen offers that fit this criteria that you'd reject. And the kinds of things you'd use to decide who's a "name guy" are the same kinds of things people base rankings on.
Nor are all "name guys" at the same level. Apparently you think Granderson qualifies somehow, but that obviously doesn't put him in the same league as a McCutchen or a Trout. So what use is the category of "name guy" if it can house players of such wildly different value?
Any trade could work out, but that doesn't make them good retroactively. Risky bets don't become smart ones if they work out.
I have no trade offers out.
That is all.
I assume you look like this right now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL4112MJURc
That's a pretty goofy example given that he got hurt and there's no way to reliably predict injuries in players without a history of them.
Not goofy. His average overall in 2013 was 418. He had 424 at bats and totaled 135 overall for the season. Thats not McCutchen, and he shouldnt be at the same table as him.
But sure, you can cherry pick rankings that miss the boat on a guy. But most of the time they don't. Most of the time significantly better-ranked players outperform significantly lower-ranked ones. That's not a coincidence. And we're talking about a massive gap in both rankings, well beyond the vagaries that might place someone higher or lower in a given range.
I think its a massive mistake on the rankers part. Jose Reyes just hasnt been productive, and other than a couple dingers, hasnt even batted near what he used to. Avg is off too. I could see them ranking Granderson there since they were going off his April production, but I thought Reyes would be there right along with him.
There are tons of examples where this hasn't been true, and I'll bet I can come up with a dozen offers that fit this criteria that you'd reject. And the kinds of things you'd use to decide who's a "name guy" are the same kinds of things people base rankings on.
Nor are all "name guys" at the same level. Apparently you think Granderson qualifies somehow, but that obviously doesn't put him in the same league as a McCutchen or a Trout. So what use is the category of "name guy" if it can house players of such wildly different value?
Any trade could work out, but that doesn't make them good retroactively. Risky bets don't become smart ones if they work out.
Now see, that last sentence just snips the balls from me if I end up being right :laugh:
Not goofy. His average overall in 2013 was 418. He had 424 at bats and totaled 135 overall for the season. Thats not McCutchen, and he shouldnt be at the same table as him.
I honestly have no idea what any of this means. Who was comparing Harper to McCutchen? 135 overall what?
I think its a massive mistake on the rankers part. Jose Reyes just hasnt been productive, and other than a couple dingers, hasnt even batted near what he used to. Avg is off too. I could see them ranking Granderson there since they were going off his April production, but I thought Reyes would be there right along with him.
But he isn't, so that should prompt you to wonder why, yeah? It's not because the rankers are all total morons, or threw a dart at the wall. And it's not a coincidence that several of us were surprised by the trade, too.
There are tons of reasons to be prefer Reyes over Granderson, even though their production so far is similar:
1) Granderson is three years older. Older players decline more, especially after 30.
2) Granderson was both bad and hurt last year--Reyes was just hurt. When he played, he was excellent.
3) Granderson's in a far worse ballpark now, so even returning to form wouldn't produce the same numbers--severely limiting his upside.
4) Reyes plays a much scarcer position, so even if he produces a fair bit less overall, he'll be more valuable.
5) Reyes has had both a higher and longer peak than Granderson did.
I can go on.
Now see, that last sentence just snips the balls from me if I end up being right :laugh:
I don't exactly follow, but the risk thing I mentioned is pretty much the whole issue. You could defend any trade, no matter how bad, by talking about what might happen. And hey, sometimes those things do happen. But it never makes sense to bet on them. Fantasy sports is about maximizing probabilities, not hanging on possibilities.
I honestly have no idea what any of this means. Who was comparing Harper to McCutchen? 135 overall what?
I was comparing Harper to McCutchen because you said it was goofy to bringing up Harper not being a first rounder because he was injured. Even when he played he was ok, averaged 135th overall. McCutchen last year averaged 49th overall. Yet they rank them in the same round, and not rank Reyes near Grandy. You then spelled out why.
Reyes is fragile, and hes playing as such. I wasnt aware of many of Grandersons disadvantages though. We'll see.
rauldc14
05-08-14, 09:27 PM
The bottom line is injuries aside Reyes has a 100% shot of outproducing Granderson by year end.
rauldc14
05-08-14, 09:29 PM
You cut Eric Young ALREADY?!!!! You have ZERO patience.
I was comparing Harper to McCutchen because you said it was goofy to bringing up Harper not being a first rounder because he was injured. Even when he played he was ok, averaged 135th overall. McCutchen last year averaged 49th overall. Yet they rank them in the same round, and not rank Reyes near Grandy. You then spelled out why.
What does "averaged 49th overall" mean? By what measure?
Either way, Harper can't be used as an example of a bad rank after just 22 games. And there's the matter of degree, too: it's fairly common for a guy to be ranked in the 1st but perform at a level befitting the 4th or 5th. And if Reyes and Granderson were ranked a couple dozen spots apart I wouldn't even have mentioned it. But it's a whole heck of a lot rarer for them to whiff when they've ranked someone 150-200 spots ahead.
What does "averaged 49th overall" mean? By what measure?
Either way, Harper can't be used as an example of a bad rank after just 22 games. And there's the matter of degree, too: it's fairly common for a guy to be ranked in the 1st but perform at a level befitting the 4th or 5th. And if Reyes and Granderson were ranked a couple dozen spots apart I wouldn't even have mentioned it. But it's a whole heck of a lot rarer for them to whiff when they've ranked someone 150-200 spots ahead.
I completely understand your point.
The stats Im quoting are from the Yahoo Team Page features. Go to your team page, hit Average Stats at the top, then hit 2013-14 underneath it and youll see Cutch averaged 49th overall.
You cut Eric Young ALREADY?!!!! You have ZERO patience.
Victorino's good for 20-40 steals a year with extras. Eric Young is only good for steals. So I should pass on Shane Victorino because I just traded away a high Era/Whip closer for Young? No way.
rauldc14
05-08-14, 10:27 PM
You can't tell me you don't make moves for the sake of just making them:p
You can't tell me you don't make moves for the sake of just making them:p
I dont make moves for the sake of making them.
I sometimes look back and scream, but I dont trade/drop/grab "just because".
You guys do see how Adam LaRoche is doing this year right? What about Melky Cabrera? Where are they ranked? I know what their upside is because of the 2012 stats. Strong strong chance theyll finish ahead of Jose Reyes.
I might get stung on Granderson, and I say this because I know more now. Theyre hunches and not moves for the sake of. It aint pretty, but it gets it done for me each season.
rauldc14
05-09-14, 12:05 AM
195 moves is something I've never seen at the beginning of May.
The stats Im quoting are from the Yahoo Team Page features. Go to your team page, hit Average Stats at the top, then hit 2013-14 underneath it and youll see Cutch averaged 49th overall.
Okay, but what does that rank mean? I don't see any explanation of it. And there's no way Cutch was the 49th best player last year--he won the MVP and was 6th in ESPN's Player Rater.
Okay, but what does that rank mean? I don't see any explanation of it. And there's no way Cutch was the 49th best player last year--he won the MVP and was 6th in ESPN's Player Rater.
In 2013 he averaged 49th overall, but his total was 8th overall. When judging close talents its a good indicator to see who is more consistent. 49 is incredible for there are many players with just a few at bats that season unjustly ranked ahead of him.
If you go to the Player page and hit Season Avg, then click below that where it says "Rank" it will show the #1 ranked player is.....wait for it, George Kottaras! #2 is Devin Mesoraco, #3 Johnny Cueto, #4 Josh Hamilton, #5 Clayton Kershaw, and etc...
Why I brought up the averages is when a players season is cut short in 2013 or 2012 its hard to guess where he truly places when theyre listed in the Season Totals, not Avg. So thats why Im mystified Bryce Harper was in the first round.
Just curious because its off point, if Bryce Harper was available on your turn would you have picked him over Adam Jones?
In 2013 he averaged 49th overall, but his total was 8th overall. When judging close talents its a good indicator to see who is more consistent. 49 is incredible for there are many players with just a few at bats that season unjustly ranked ahead of him.
But averages don't tell us anything about consistency. It's actually the exact opposite: averages smooth out differences. If a guy goes 2 for 4 on consecutive nights and another goes 0 for 4 and then 4 for 4, averaging their totals out will make them look the same.
Why I brought up the averages is when a players season is cut short in 2013 or 2012 its hard to guess where he truly places when theyre listed in the Season Totals, not Avg. So thats why Im mystified Bryce Harper was in the first round.
Seems clear to me: he put up very good numbers despite missing a third of the year, and his age indicates he's probably going to get better.
Just curious because its off point, if Bryce Harper was available on your turn would you have picked him over Adam Jones?
In a vacuum, no. With trade considerations factored in, yes.
But averages don't tell us anything about consistency. It's actually the exact opposite: averages smooth out differences. If a guy goes 2 for 4 on consecutive nights and another goes 0 for 4 and then 4 for 4, averaging their totals out will make them look the same.
Yeah thats what averaging does. There is no system in place that shows the multi hit games. I dont use averages as a standard but one of many tools.
Seems clear to me: he put up very good numbers despite missing a third of the year, and his age indicates he's probably going to get better.
In a vacuum, no. With trade considerations factored in, yes.
"He's probably gonna get better" is crap reasoning to put someone in the first round. First round belongs to the tried and true, the sure things. Actually I think you told me that once, Idk.
Trade considerations?! Are you telling me you would spend your first round draft pick on Bryce Harper for the plan to trade him away?!
I have defiled you. :)
Yeah thats what averaging does. There is no system in place that shows the multi hit games. I dont use averages as a standard but one of many tools.
I'm kind of struggling to think of any situation where they'd be particularly useful. But regardless, the point I'm making is that averages don't measure consistency. To the contrary, they hide inconsistency.
"He's probably gonna get better" is crap reasoning to put someone in the first round. First round belongs to the tried and true, the sure things. Actually I think you told me that once, Idk.
I probably said something about preferring safer guys early, which is true. But projecting a young hitter to get better its pretty safe; we have tons of historical data on hitter progression. Take a guy under a certain age and there's an additional chance of improvement. Take a guy over a certain age and there's an additional chance of a fall off. Not certainties, just probabilities, but maximizing those is the whole (forgive the pun) ballgame.
Trade considerations?! Are you telling me you would spend your first round draft pick on Bryce Harper for the plan to trade him away?!
I have defiled you. :)
Heh. I'd almost never take someone I thought I really had to trade, but if two players were close to equal and I thought one would make significantly more attractive trade bait, yeah, that can be a decent tiebreaker.
I'm kind of struggling to think of any situation where they'd be particularly useful. But regardless, the point I'm making is that averages don't measure consistency. To the contrary, they hide inconsistency.
Baseball uses averages but if you dont that's cool.
I probably said something about preferring safer guys early, which is true. But projecting a young hitter to get better its pretty safe; we have tons of historical data on hitter progression. Take a guy under a certain age and there's an additional chance of improvement. Take a guy over a certain age and there's an additional chance of a fall off. Not certainties, just probabilities, but maximizing those is the whole (forgive the pun) ballgame.
Someone offered you Bryce Harper for Adam Jones, I strongly think you would have said no. You might have even said no if they were asking for Encarnacion. The Rankers method of deduction is a sound one, but not an infallible one.
Heh. I'd almost never take someone I thought I really had to trade, but if two players were close to equal and I thought one would make significantly more attractive trade bait, yeah, that can be a decent tiebreaker.
Funny thing on an aside, but Dexter used to draft Rays players specifically to trade to me later so he could make bank. As much of a trade whore that I am, Ive never drafted a player with the specific goal of trading them later.
Baseball uses averages but if you dont that's cool.
:confused: Batting averages don't measure consistency, either.
You can use whatever metrics you want (though I wouldn't use them just because they're there), but if you're using averages to measure consistency, it won't produce sensible results.
The Rankers method of deduction is a sound one, but not an infallible one.
Indeed. 'Course, this describes every method of deduction
Funny thing on an aside, but Dexter used to draft Rays players specifically to trade to me later so he could make bank. As much of a trade whore that I am, Ive never drafted a player with the specific goal of trading them later.
Yeah, I normally wouldn't do that. I think I have a couple of times and it's not a great position to be in. Player arbitrage is a tricky thing because you only have control of one side of things.
In case anyone's curious, the aging curve for hitters looks like this:
https://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/images/4464_4.gif
It might be changing (http://grantland.com/the-triangle/mlb-warning-shootaround-staff-preview/), though, because of the way teams are smartly delaying promotion to maximize pre-arbitration service time. But otherwise 27 is around the time where the benefits of experience and the benefits of youth are at their highest combined potency.
It's later for pitchers (and contains a lot more variation).
Very helpful. Maybe they should start putting the players age next to their name in the drafts.
https://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/images/4464_4.gif
With the age graph, and my roster comprising of Adam LaRoche, AJ Pierzynski, Torii Hunter, Curtis Granderson, Shane Victorino, and Carlos Beltran...Im considering calling my team Jurassic Park.
I was wrong.
Jose Reyes is coming alive big time, and as soon as Adam accepted the trade Jose started stealing bases again. Trying to do a offer of Lohse/Grandy to get him back, but Adams talking about giving Reyes/Harang/Wood for Clayton Kershaw :facepalm: so I'm gonna be taking this one on the chin.
Also Rauld offered Chris Davis and Scott Feldman for Kershaw, and I have to say no. If I was gonna move Clayton Kershaw it would take an earning first rounder. Right now I need his stats for my pitching.
If you are wrong, it's not like you'd know it from Reyes playing well for a few games.
Ditto for picking up guys because they homered the night before and then dropping them if they go hitless the next game for someone who went 3 for 5. Samples that size have basically zero predictive power. It's just dice rolling.
Yeah I have to agree. At least they got De Aza batting leadoff, and he has power & speed when not slumping. Ive kept an eye on him.
Whew! Adam accepted Lohse & Grandy for Reyes and I wont be haunted by that blunder.
No more blunders to come. I am church mouse Tongo.
rauldc14
05-10-14, 07:23 PM
Am I the only one laughing hysterically right now?
Yup, must just be me.
Great. LaRoche may be out awhile. Bye De Aza :(
rauldc14
05-11-14, 05:48 PM
Going for Trout. Not going to happen I doubt it, but offered Freeman, Weaver, and Kemp.
Going for Trout. Not going to happen I doubt it, but offered Freeman, Weaver, and Kemp.
You need to make a play for Gomez. I'm listening.
Our league is officially crazy.
rauldc14
05-11-14, 06:11 PM
Sent an offer your way Sean
If you can pry Wil Myers from him Sean then we can do some dealing :)
Me and Sean made a deal, and Im hoping it repairs a bad trade mistake I made in the Adam Jones trade. He's giving me Carlos Gomez and he gets Masahiro Tanaka & Carlos Beltran. Imo this will help both our squads greatly.
rauldc14
05-11-14, 07:26 PM
I was going to accept the trade Sean, but to be honest you got a way better deal from Tongs. You got Adam Jones from him I mean Tanaka.
Just another showing that Tongs trades to trade. You bring up someone's name and he sends you a deal.
rauldc14
05-11-14, 07:27 PM
Tanaka and Beltran is a better grab then Kemp and Weaver, that's for sure.
Actually kind of surprised you didn't take the deal involving Freeman with Gomez, though I guess Santana is rock solid.
Yeah I need a pitching upgrade so trading one of the only guys doing anything didn't work at the moment. Have you looked at my new offer?
I was going to accept the trade Sean, but to be honest you got a way better deal from Tongs. You got Adam Jones from him I mean Tanaka.
Just another showing that Tongs trades to trade. You bring up someone's name and he sends you a deal.
He sent the offer to me Mr 10,000
rauldc14
05-11-14, 08:34 PM
I see. No need to call me Mr. 10,000
I had no idea I was joining a league with such an intense rivalry. I approve.:cool:
rauldc14
05-11-14, 08:51 PM
I had no idea I was joining a league with such an intense rivalry. I approve.:cool:
It's not a rivalry. I'm a basement dweller.
It's not a rivalry. I'm a basement dweller.
Yeah well I have never been in last place for this long or this late in the season before. It's early be damned, I have no intention of having this poor of a team my first year in the league.
Yeah well I have never been in last place for this long or this late in the season before. It's early be damned, I have no intention of having this poor of a team my first year in the league.
I have, and so have others. Its a bear to overcome, but you can. Eliminate the fat from your squad, but be patient with the stars. Dont sell low because no one or two trades will turn your team around. Yoda was a bottom dweller last season, trimmed the fat, and was patient. His rocket forward was equally as impressive as Mikeys win. Just have fun bro :up:
I have, and so have others. Its a bear to overcome, but you can. Eliminate the fat from your squad, but be patient with the stars. Dont sell low because no one or two trades will turn your team around. Yoda was a bottom dweller last season, trimmed the fat, and was patient. His rocket forward was equally as impressive as Mikeys win. Just have fun bro :up:
I am and I will have fun. Just dont want you guys to think you invited a dud into the league.
rauldc14
05-12-14, 11:41 PM
Kemp will have to flop for me to push or win my deal with Sean. I just figured I was loaded at first and need help in my outfield.
Now, if I can trade Myers and some in some capacity for Gomez then maybe I'll be feeling good
Theres no fit Rauld. Reyes/Gomez/Rios are my base stealers. You have 0 bag stealers to trade me to recover a 35-40 bag loss, plus Gomez should get 20 homers.
Ortiz is on the block for a starting pitcher
Agh! Wish I could throw my hat into this one, but my pitching corps has been gutted.
Ill take a stab at Big Popi. Sent Sean an offer of Melky Cabrera & Mike Minor for him.
^^^ I added Josh Beckett to the above offer to see if it would make a difference.
Good trading with you Sean!
Meand Mr C have come to an accord where he gets Beckett, Minor, and Melky and I get David "Big Popi" Ortiz back.
Josh Beckett has gotten back to his 2011 form. After an elbow surgery, and an increase of curveball usage he's been fierce.
Melky Cabrera is right next to Popi in the standings, but I need power. Melky may be back on PEDs or may not be, I dont know. He is producing like when he was, but theres a risk he could fall off too. Popi is steadier.
Mike Minor. Nuff said. Dont believe his current #'s as hes only pitched 3 games, and 1 was bad. The other 2 werent, and his last start made him look like he was back to form.
I think this may help Nines roster greatly, and I can recover the pitching loss with Cobby coming back the 22nd.
rauldc14
05-16-14, 05:55 PM
I hope Minor can bounce back. He was huge last year.
No interest in Billy Butler for my new Baltimore closer Rauld. Ive got too many first basemen as it is, and Butlers cut worthy.
Gonna say no Rauld. I dont want to trade Carlos Gomez & David Robertson for Justin Upton & Jared Weaver. The deal would be a slight downgrade for me.
rauldc14
05-18-14, 12:15 AM
Gonna say no Rauld. I dont want to trade Carlos Gomez & David Robertson for Justin Upton & Jared Weaver. The deal would be a slight downgrade for me.
It's all good.
Ill give you Koji Uehara for Wil Myers.
Offer sent is so tired. How about......the proposal is awaiting your review :)
I added James Loney to the offer. Have too many first basemen with Cuddyer & LaRoche returning, and Popi coming.
There are forces beyond our ken people! I traded Sedai Anibal Sanchez for Michael Cuddyer. Cuddyer immediately goes out for a month.
BUT THEN Anibal gets what must have been the nastiest blister in the history of thumbs, and he goes out a month! Cuddyer returns the same time as Anibal! Which means ......
............there is a psychic connection between Anibals thumb and Cuddyers hammy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW7Op86ox9g
So, I have a ridiculous wealth of #2-ish outfielders. One of you is probably going to get a pretty good deal on one or more of them. Just FYI.
rauldc14
05-22-14, 09:28 AM
Gonna say no Rauld. I dont want to trade Carlos Gomez & David Robertson for Justin Upton & Jared Weaver. The deal would be a slight downgrade for me.
Thank you for not taking this. I would have made a slight mistake I think.
mikeython1
05-26-14, 07:36 PM
Big trade just went through. George Springer for Koji Uehara. :suspicious::shrug::highfive:
George Springer will help. I can hang without Uehara, and Springers finally arrived. Im guessing this isnt a streak hes on right now, but him settling in to the majors.
Now with Khris Davis back to killing it, and Springer arriving too I find my bench flush and fat :)
Anyone needing help in batting average.....if you dont move on it now you're screwed. Yes that's salesmanship and fact all rolled into one :)
I however need one or two good starting pitchers.
Michael Cuddyer, 2013 NL Batting Champion, is on the block.
http://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/33234699/482769941.0_standard_730.0.jpg
Torii Hunter, who has finished 49th overall two years in a row in FBB :eek:, is on the block. I hate to lose Hunter, I like him.
http://lesterslegends.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Torii-Hunter-Tigers.jpg
Sent offers to Sean and Sedai.
https://emptystress.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/thats-all-i-have-to-say-about-that.jpg?w=440
I just sent Mikey the most overloaded trade offer Ive sent in years, but what's funny is I think he'll still say no.
Brutal trying to find a deal out there for a pitcher, just brutal. Im shopping David Ortiz, Michael Cuddyer, and Torii Hunter hard on the block and nobody wants to move at all. Make no mistake, Im making some loaded good offers. Just one of those times I guess.
Sent an offer out to rauldc14 last night - Ortiz & Cuddyer for Cueto
Sent an offer to Tim too.
Tim said no though he does need a 1B now with Matt Adams on the DL.
Trying to offer Adam now Cuddyer for Kazmir straight up. sheesh! Its rough knocking on doors, anybody got some water?
Me and Adam have a verbal agreement, he gets David Ortiz and I get Scott Kazmir. Wow! I had no idea Kazmir was so electric this season..
Have 2 offers out still to Sean & Tim, and when they accept or decline, then this will be the end of my current broadcasts :)
http://www.rantsports.com/mlb/files/2013/04/freddie-freeman-braves.jpg
Well there was a big boy trade done with many players involved on both sides, and I wasnt involved whatsoever.
seanc traded to Yoda - Freddie Freeman, Jhonny Peralta, Starling Marte (good grab), and Tyson Ross.
and Yoda gave up - Starlin Castro, Matt Holliday, and Hiroki Kuroda.
Not too shabby ;)
http://www.chicagonow.com/chicago-sideline-report/files/2012/06/bbce70d7926e6d98662ce9884dda746b.jpg
Quick note on that trade: I dropped the wrong guy when I accepted. I checked with seanc if he'd be willing to cancel and reaccept to fix it, and he said it's fine. I'll see if there's an option for that as Commissioner (in the past I've always voided deals when both parties agreed to it), but if not it'll just mean making sure it's Melancon who gets the drop come Tuesday morning. Just want to mention here to be as transparent/fair as possible. :)
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