Mr Minio's Top 185 Films aka I bet you haven't seen it!

[Mr Minio]

Seeing all the list popping out like snails after rain I decided to finally make my own. It wasn't an easy task, but it turned out to be possible after all.

There's a rule that I can only include one movie per director, so I don't make a list consisting of ten directors including their whole filmographies. At first I wanted to make the list with no mainstream or English-spoken movies, but then I thought it's really stupid, self-indulgent and pathetic, not to mention there are some English language films I wholeheartedly love, so I rejected the idea and probably saved myself from a great amount of hate.

It's really hard to say which film is better, so most of them are there maybe not randomly, but with a little thought put into it, because after all the fact they're there is what counts, not the place they take. I'll include some descriptions as well, but I doubt anybody wants to read me creaming over arthouse stuff, so I'll just include short anecdotes, or quotations.

I've almost forgotten. Why 185 films you'd ask? Because I can! Besides top 30/50/100/250 are too mainstream to me. Oh, OK. Here we go:

185. Hachi: A Dog's Tale
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I won't cry, I won't cry, I won't cry... GHAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

184. Platoon
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"Death, what do you all know about death?"

183. Lethal Weapon Series
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"Anybody who drives around in this town IS suicidal. "

182. Se7en
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lust
gluttony
greed
sloth
wrath
envy
pride

181. Pi
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I love me some π!

Yeah, it's me. Mr Minio.

[The Rodent]

Haven't seen any of those ;)

[Mr Minio]

Wait for other movies. :D

[The Rodent]

I haven't seen any of those either.

[The Gunslinger45]

Lethal Weapon and Platoon? KVLT! :D

I kid of course. I have seen what kind of movies you are into, an I expect to see plenty of film I have never heard of by directors I do not know. This should be interesting.

[BlueLion]

Have seen all those except for Pi. Hachi is one of the most depressing films I've ever seen, it is impossible not to cry if you're a dog lover.

[Mr Minio]

180. Amer
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Giallo homage, which has an incredible mood and visuals.

179. Pociąg
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Matka Joanna od Aniołów or Pociąg? Hard question. Watch both.

178. Himala
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The first and sadly only entry from Philippines.

177. Moon
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Possibly the saddest sci-fi ever.

176. The Hours
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Ed Harris in his lifetime performance.

[Lucas]

This will be interesting, but maybe you could add like one more sentence to each film description because I want to know more about some of this films I haven't heard of before.

[Mr Minio]

175. Das Leben der Anderen
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- Shall I gift wrap it?
- No, it's for me.

174. The Station Agent
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"It's funny how people see me and treat me, since I'm really just a simple, boring person. "

173. The Big Gundown
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Say whatever you want, Spaghetti Westerns are awesome!

172. White Heat
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"Made it, Ma! Top of the world!"

171. A Separation
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First, but not last Iranian film to show up.

[The Gunslinger45]

Lee Van Clef = awesome!

[Mr Minio]

I kid of course. I have seen what kind of movies you are into, an I expect to see plenty of film I have never heard of by directors I do not know. This should be interesting. There will be a lot you know too.

Have seen all those except for Pi. Hachi is one of the most depressing films I've ever seen, it is impossible not to cry if you're a dog lover. I can't say I'm a dog lover, but I couldn't stop crying like a baby.

This will be interesting, but maybe you could add like one more sentence to each film description because I want to know more about some of this films I haven't heard of before.
I'll make descriptions longer as I get closer to the first place.

[The Gunslinger45]

There will be a lot you know too.

Well considering you last top 10, I saw at least three or four there. Either way, going to pick through to find something I have not seen and check it out.

[jiraffejustin]

I like Pi, but it means Black Swan will not show up. :(

Amer! Hell yeah, somebody else has seen this beauty of a giallo homage!

I love Moon too. The Lives of Others is decent. Se7en is brilliant. Platoon is pretty good.

So far, so good.

[Guaporense]

Liked or loved every film I watched among these. Plan to watch the others.

I might plan to watch A Separation these days. Also, Moon is quite powerful but the most powerful science fiction movie I ever watched is PMMM the film version. :D

[HitchFan97]

Only seen Platoon and Seven so far, but this should be quite a ride. :D Amer looks interesting.

[Gabrielle947]

Good luck with the list :up: I'm follow it since I'm sure that you'll have some eastern stuff here.
So far,I've seen about half of your movies and out of those I really enjoyed Se7en and Platoon.Separation was good as well,seems very different and original.ame goes for Moon.
I think Hachi is a lame movie overall but I cried a lot. :D The Lives of Others isn't a bad movie but I found it boring,should rewatch because I actually like history and spying.
First Lethal Weapon and Pi - I didn't care for them.

[honeykid]

Were Moon the best sci-fi, you could write off sci-fi completely as a genre.

Also, you have an entire series of films as a single choice, so your list is already void to me. :p

Despite that, The Lives of Others, Platoon, White Heat and Se7en are all well worth praise. I'd like to see Amer, too. Your inclusion of it is yet another incentive to see it. :)

[gandalf26]

Were Moon the best sci-fi, you could write off sci-fi completely as a genre.

Also, you have an entire series of films as a single choice, so your list is already void to me. :p

Despite that, The Lives of Others, Platoon, White Heat and Se7en are all well worth praise. I'd like to see Amer, too. Your inclusion of it is yet another incentive to see it. :)

Yeah I hate it when people pick a series of films as 1 choice. It says 185 films but will likely end up at 200+.

[Guaporense]

That depends, The Lord of the Rings is officially a series of films but it is actually a single film.

[gandalf26]

That depends, The Lord of the Rings is officially a series of films but it is actually a single film.

Yea an argument could be made for LOTR because it was all filmed at the same time and is basically a continuous story whereas Lethal Weapon is one successful film with a few sequels on the back of that success.

What's next? The James Bond series?

[donniedarko]

I've seen Se7en, Pi, and Moon so far. Like 2/3. As expected a unique list

[Guaporense]

Yea an argument could be made for LOTR because it was all filmed at the same time and is basically a continuous story whereas Lethal Weapon is one successful film with a few sequels on the back of that success.

What's next? The James Bond series?

I agree with you on that. Film series like Lethal Weapon shouldn't be put as a single movie.

[jiraffejustin]

Mr. Minio makes the rules in this thread. If he wants to lump together the Twilight Saga, he can do it. If he wants to put the Michael Bay discography as a single entry, it's his prerogative. This is a Mr. Minio world, you all are just living in it.

[Daniel M]

Seen Platoon (3.5+), Se7en (4) and Hachi (3.5+).

The latter is a very depressing and touching movie, like BlueLion says, and I guess I am a dog lover :D

[mark f]

What a bunch of mainstream crap! :)

[mark f]

What a bunch of mainstream crap! :)

[gandalf26]

Mr. Minio makes the rules in this thread. If he wants to lump together the Twilight Saga, he can do it. If he wants to put the Michael Bay discography as a single entry, it's his prerogative. This is a Mr. Minio world, you all are just living in it.

Well why didn't Mr Minio just call it his to 215 films t cater for all the series of films.

[jiraffejustin]

Well why didn't Mr Minio just call it his to 215 films t cater for all the series of films.

Once again, he makes the rules. Consider him an unreliable narrator if you choose, though it won't change the way he rules over his domain. Though, the borders are open in his kingdom.

[gandalf26]

Once again, he makes the rules. Consider him an unreliable narrator if you choose, though it won't change the way he rules over his domain. Though, the border are open in his kingdom.

I simply think its a fail anytime someone does it. Here's my top 100 and at number 95 we have ALL the movies of Pixar (someone actually did that). That's like 10 different movies with different stories being logged under 1 choice.

Yes it's his list and he can do whatever the **** he likes and haters like me be damned. I just think it degrades a list. Part of choosing a best film list is making tough choices and picking a load of films under 1 banner just seems like a copout.

Anyways not going to argue this further, I just don't like it.

[mark f]

http://exposexpress.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/gandalf.jpg

[Mr Minio]

Just regard the "Lethal Weapon Series" as the first part, if you like. It's the best one in my opinion. Stop the whine. I'll include Transformers as number one if I like.

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170. Kladivo na čarodějnicehttp://i43.tinypic.com/2iqz4m0.jpg

Another witch trial movie that perfectly shows how preposterous they were.

169. Krišana
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It's so similar to the works of Béla Tarr that many people would probably be really confused to find out it wasn't made by him.

168. Lawrence of Arabia
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"What a bunch of mainstream crap!"

167. Yuri's Day
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Redheads! Redheads everywhere!

166. Siberiade
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A four-hours-long epic from USSR!

[linespalsy]

I simply think its a fail anytime someone does it. Here's my top 100 and at number 95 we have ALL the movies of Pixar (someone actually did that). That's like 10 different movies with different stories being logged under 1 choice.

Personally, I was just enjoying the irony that the Superman guy is going to have 3 more films than Tarkovsky or whoever on this list. Just admit it, Minio, Richard Donner's your favorite auteur...

[HitchFan97]

I'm expecting to have heard of about one film per set. :D

[Mr Minio]

Richard Donner's your favorite auteur... Sure, only inferior to Stephenie Meyer.

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165. Baraka
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Since I love contemplation, it comes naturally that I loved this contemplative piece.

164. Ostrov
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The movie has this mystical vibe to it many Russian films have.

163. Maborosi
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It's nearly unbelievable how sad and touching this film is being so minimalistic and transquil.

162. Wilcze Echa
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Pretty badass Polish ostern that sometimes felt like a good Spaghetti.

161. The Dawns are Quiet Here
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A group of ladies kicking Nazi butts - Russian style!

[Gabrielle947]

Always wanted to watch Siberiada because of the soundtrack. :D Do you think I would like it?

Also can you give IMDB link for Ostrov?I don't know which one is it.

[bluedeed]

Liked or loved every film I watched among these. Plan to watch the others.

I might plan to watch A Separation these days. Also, Moon is quite powerful but the most powerful science fiction movie I ever watched is PMMM the film version. :D

Guap totally just got bought out by the PMMM advertisers and is now required to post about it at every opening.

[Mmmm Donuts]

Wait, isn't Baraka that guy from Mortal Kombat, with blades coming out of his wrists? What's that monkey doing there? :confused:

Just kidding... :suspicious:

[Mr Minio]

Always wanted to watch Siberiada because of the soundtrack. :D Do you think I would like it? Hard to say, but it's a great movie.

Also can you give IMDB link for Ostrov?I don't know which one is it.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0851577/

Next positions tomorrow.

[Guaporense]

What I have seem:

184. Platoon
4
182. Seven
3_5
177. Moon
4
175. Das Leben der Anderen
5
168. Lawrence of Arabia
5

Great list so far in my opinion.

[Guaporense]

Guap totally just got bought out by the PMMM advertisers and is now required to post about it at every opening.

Sorry about that. Anyway I should stop talking about it since it makes me want to watch it again. :D

[Sane]

Did anyone not cry during Hachi?

Really looking forward to following this thread. I'm in the process of further expanding my movie watching horizons so this will give me lots to watch.

[honeykid]

Mr. Minio makes the rules in this thread. If he wants to lump together the Twilight Saga, he can do it. If he wants to put the Michael Bay discography as a single entry, it's his prerogative. This is a Mr. Minio world, you all are just living in it.
Absolutely. I was simply voicing out my objection.

I'm expecting to have heard of about one film per set. :D
Really? You're more optimistic than I am. :D

[jiraffejustin]

Absolutely. I was simply voicing out my objection.


I was having a bit of fun. You are a nine year vet, go ahead and do your thing. :)

[cricket]

I figure I'll probably love the few movies I see from this list. 2 for 2 with Platoon and Se7en.

[Pussy Galore]

Platoon 7/10
Se7en 8.5/10
Life of Others 8.5/10
A Separation 8.5/10
Lawrence of Arabia 7/10

Se7en is the one I'd rewatch, but A Separation is the best amongst them in my opinion

[Mr Minio]

160. James Bond Franchise
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Where's your God now, gandalf26?

159. In a Lonely Place
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I think I liked it more than the other Ray film I've seen.

158. Wenecja
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Ex aequo with Jańcio Wodnik.

157. Vedreba
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Poetic image about a Georgian poet.

156. Przesłuchanie
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Very powerful film and my favourite Janda performance.

155. The Dante Quartet
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Yay for the flickering colours!

154. 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days
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An ascetic view on the problem of abortion.

153. Inglorious Basterds
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Post-modernist Nazi farce. "Bon jorno. "

152. Star Wars
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Best space opera ever.

151. Vertigo
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Hitchcock is 151. on my list? Good place to me.

[cricket]

Star Wars and Vertigo are classics I love.

My wife wasn't liking Inglourious Basterds so I shut it off-need to get to it again.

Bond is a strange franchise for me; I always look forward to the movies, but then I'm always a little bored and disappointed.

[Daniel M]

Vertigo, Inglourious Basterds and In A Lonely Place are all 4.5 films for me. Star Wars is great too, and I love the James Bond franchise, good stuff.

By the way where do you watch all these foreign films, do you deliberately seek them out as an art house fan or are they shown on local tv/cinemas?

[HitchFan97]

Great, great stuff in that last set. :)

[Mr Minio]

I wish they were showing such films. I mean, they do in certain independent cinemas in big cities, but living in a small town I'm done. There's a TV station called TVP Kultura, which shows some arthouse flicks, but I mostly seek these films myself in order to develop my tastes and hobby.

I'd have added a lot more, all the way to 100 today, but I've got serious Internet issues, so I can't do it. :(

[Pussy Galore]

Inglourious Basterds is my favourite movie so thumbs up !

[honeykid]

Is that just Star Wars or the entire franchise? :D

[Mr Minio]

Just Star Wars, but if it would piss off gandalf26 it's a whole franchise.

[HandyApe]

Liking the list so far!

[Mr Minio]

150. Lost in Translation
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Loneliness in a big city. Beautiful cinematography and My Bloody Valentine in soundtrack. I'm sold!

149. Cemetery without Crosses
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Spaghetti western from France with cool ending.

148. Found Memories
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Brazilian film, which tells a story very slowly using cinematography, dialogs and masterful music.

147. The Ascent
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Really grim Soviet film from Larisa Shpepitko, the wife of Elem Klimov.

146. Fear Eats the Soul
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Atypical couple struggles to be together despite the malevolence of society.

145. Sleeping Beauty
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"Rise up and walk, none of your bones are broken."

144. Farewell My Concubine
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It's a trap! See? That's why Communists didn't want them to perform. No, I'm just kidding.

143. Before Sunrise
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"If there's any kind of magic in this world... it must be in the attempt of understanding someone, sharing something. I know it's almost impossible to succeed... but who cares, really? The answer must be in the attempt."

142. Belle de jour
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She forgot her lipstick. Oh what a tragedy!

141. Judgment at Nuremberg
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Watch Polish movie Epilog Norymberski too as well. It's just as good as this one.

140. Szerelem
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Love can survive everything. Is it true?

139. La vie nouvellehttp://i41.tinypic.com/2m2gzz7.png

Very rarely so minimalistic film is so disturbing and dark.

138. Teorema
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No matter whether you hated or loved (you're sick!) Passolini's Salo, give this one a try anyway. It's much better and not as disturbing.

137. Funeral Parade of Roses
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Hands on the table! It's a trap! What a fun ride through Japanese quirkiness, though.

136. Titus
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Romans driving cars and listening to jazz music? Awesome!

135. The House is Black
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Debut and already such a film? Masterful! Some directors try their whole life to do something as good and fail miserably!

134. Lady Snowblood
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Forget Kill Bill. This is the real deal!

133. Le Trou
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If you don't watch this movie before all the sand is at the bottom, the guy will kill you. I mean it!

132. The Second Circle
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Russian Ark is technically more impressing (shot in one take!!!) and visually stunning, but this movie is bleakier and sadder, so I prefer it more.

131. Niewinni czarodzieje
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Forget Kanał and Popiół i Diament. This is my favourite Wajda movie!

130. Heroic Purgatory
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If you've seen this movie you're awesome! It's visually breathtaking and thematically quirky and undefined. Just as I like it.

129. Hausu
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It's so visually striking it feels like somebody makes a blowjob to your eyes! (see the picture)

128. Sunset Blvd.
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She saw the film in only 128.

127. Code Blue
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The movie portrays a great loneliness and desire to end it, even if it's risky and wrong.

126. Drive
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It's oozing with style. Synthpop and badassity never get old.

125. Django
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Possibly the most badass character ever. Compared to him Fox is but a whiny brat.

124. Valerie and Her Week of Wonders
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Period problems with vampires and stuff! I wonder why is it so low on my own list.

123. Rome, Open City
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My favourite neo-realism movie so far. Very realistic, obviously.

122. Le samurai
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"I never lose. Never really. "

121. Cria cuervos
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¿ Por qué te vas ?

[Daniel M]

I have seen Lost In Translation which is pretty good although I don't love it as much as some, Drive and Sunset Boulevard which are great fims, and The House Is Black which is no doubt a great achievement but I don't really think of it as a 'entertaining film' but a serious commentary on a human issue, and I found it quite difficult to watch.

[jiraffejustin]

Some great films there...and some that I can't even find on IMDb because you refuse to gives us their years. :p Which Sleeping Beauty is that?


EDIT: nevermind, I see it's the new-ish one.

[HitchFan97]

Belle de Jour and Le Samourai are my favorites from that last set, both incredible movies.

[donniedarko]

Lots of good stuff, but I'd like to second The House is Black, stunning documentary

[mark f]

I've only seen 39 (60%) and I couldn't find every one on IMDb. What a bunch of non-mainstream crap I'll have to watch now. :)
Some great films there...and some that I can't even find on IMDb because you refuse to gives us their years. :p Which Sleeping Beauty is that?
This Sleeping Beauty (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1588398/?ref_=sr_1).

[cricket]

+1 just for using the words "blowjob to your eyes".

[gandalf26]

160. James Bond Franchise
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Where's your God now Gandalf 26?



WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!!!

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[Mr Minio]

120. Branded to Kill
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My favourite Yakuza film.

119. Blockade
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Touching and shocking documentary with no commentary, in which only archival footage and montage tell the story of 900-day-long blockade of Leningrad.

118. A Tanu
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Hungarian comedy & drama mix mocking Communism.

117. Tabu
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I'm probably the only person that didn't include the croc picture when mentioning this movie.

116. I Am Cuba
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Perhaps the greatest and most sophisticated cinematography in history plus propaganda. Guapo, don't watch it. Others should or even have to!

115. Buddha Collapsed Out of Shame
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Terrific Iranian film directed by female.

114. Destiny of a Man
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An outstanding debut of the director, who later made films such as Waterloo and War and Peace.

113. Goodbye, Dragon Inn
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Probably the slowest and finest film about films. I wrote more about it in my Journey thread.

112. Tokyo Story
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"Isn't life disappointing?"

111. Doubt
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Up-to-date problem portrayed by talented actors.

110. 3 Women
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With this mind-tuggling psychological drama and visually stunning whodunit Gosford Park Altman is slowly becoming a director I love.

109. Shutter Island
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No other Scorsese film I found so powerful and beautiful.

108. Schindler's List
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Spielberg's finest achievement. Why the hell is this mainstream stuff so high on my list, I don't know.

107. 21 Grams
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"Did you know that eating alone could cause kidney damage? And that's BAD."

106. Death in Venice
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A man with moustache stalking a young boy all around Venice to seek his afflation.

105. Karamazovi
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Dostoyevski's Karamazovi with an interesting subplot.

104. The Lion in Winter
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Hepburn is flawless in this one.

103. This Transient Life
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And what if I tell you they are brother and sister?

102. Lilja 4-ever
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The movie gets really depressing when you realise it's really happening somewhere in the world.

101. Spirited Away
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Guaporense grants + rep in 3... 2... 1...

[Daniel M]

Shutter Island and Schindler's List are great films. I have both Tokyo Story and Tabu ready to watch. I really want to see I Am Cuba too because of what I have heard about it, it's one of Paul Thomas Anderson's favourite films and heavily influenced Boogie Nights, because of it's beautiful long shots, I have heard.

[Mr Minio]

I've only seen 39 (60%) and I couldn't find every one on IMDb. Pretty strange considering how much films you've seen. It only shows you can't watch everything in your life. :)

Which movies couldn't you find?

[bluedeed]

117. Tabu
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I'm probably the only person that didn't include the croc picture when mentioning this movie.


http://www.reverseshot.com/article/reverse_shots_best_2012

[mark f]

I found them all when I looked again. :)

[jiraffejustin]

Have you seen Underworld Beauty? It's an earlier film of Seijun Suzuki.

[Mr Minio]

No, but I will. Thanks for recommendation.

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100. The Golden Fern
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It's so underseen and underrated yet so great it deserves such a high place. I wonder what other masterpieces is Czechoslovak cinema hiding from me!

99. The Hunger
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It's got Blade Runneresque mood and damn, vampires are cool and Deneuve is cool. And hot as well. And Schubert was cool. And Bowie too. A must see!

98. Man with a Movie Camera
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This 1929 City Symphony Documentary was a big triumph of Soviet Montage and a great achievement in Experimental cinema. It's impressing even now and was groundbreaking in its time combining all known cinema techniques and tricks.

97. Meshes of the Afternoon
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This 1943 experimental short is arguably the most accomplished and greatest Maya Deren film. Its vivid yet scary imaginery and surreal touches make it a must see for every cinema fan.

96. Happy Together
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"I can't see me lovin' nobody but you
For all my life
When you're with me, baby the skies'll be blue
For all my life"

95. Beyond the Black Rainbow
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Rarely a film achieves such dense impenetrable atmosphere built on music and visuals. The initiation scene feels like a narco-vision scene from 2001.

94. Mistrz
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I'm afraid this TV film is unavailable with English subtitles, but it has nothing to do with the fact it's simply masterful. Well, they should at least consider restoring it and releasing a Blu-Ray with subtitles so foreigners can see how good Polish movies are.

93. Sunset Limited
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Religious debate being a try to save a life. It features only two actors sitting in one room talking. It's adapted from Cormac McCarthy's screenplay (author of i.e. No Country for Old Men and The Road books) and directed by Tommy Lee Jones, who's also starring along with Samuel L. Jackson.

92. Live!
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It starts slowly and intriguingly, but the latter sequences remind me of something I'd call an arthouse action movie with constant shooting. Basically, it's like you're watching an action flick, but still it's refined, so it's a double profit for you!

91. Koyaanisqatsi
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It's another documentary, which rejects conventional commentary and uses visuals along with music to convey emotions and beauty. Divine soundtrack composed by Philip Glass accompanies incredible cinematography creating a very strong and stirring experience.

[HitchFan97]

Tokyo Story, Schindler's List, and Meshes of the Afternoon are all excellent. 3 Women I adore, as you know. ;)

[donniedarko]

Forever gratefulness for anyone who can find me a stream or DVD of A Tanu

[Daniel M]

Meshes of the Afternoon is a great short film. I've always really wanted to see Man with a Movie Camera too.

[Mr Minio]

90. The Legend of 1900
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I found this movie to be way more magical, poignant and beautiful than Cinema Paradiso. The final scenes made me cry, while the jazz duel was simply awesome.

89. I Am Twenty
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Very honest and believable this Soviet coming-of-age drama is. The happiness radiating from the screen is contagious.

88. 12 Angry Men
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A true classic that never gets old. The movie shows how we never can be certain and how easy is it to manipulate people.

87. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
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"She was fifteen years old, going on thirty-five, Doc, and she told me she was eighteen, she was very willing, I practically had to take to sewing my pants shut. Between you and me, uh, she might have been fifteen, but when you get that little red beaver right up there in front of you, I don't think it's crazy at all and I don't think you do either. No man alive could resist that, and that's why I got into jail to begin with. And now they're telling me I'm crazy over here because I don't sit there like a ******* vegetable. Don't make a bit of sense to me. If that's what being crazy is, then I'm senseless, out of it, gone-down-the-road, wacko. But no more, no less, that's it."

86. Ladoni
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"He said he was not going to move from this place until the coming of the Kingdom of God. But to make it happen I should fulfill the following - I should make the inside like the outside and the left arm, like the right arm and the left cheek like the right cheek. And when I make a hand instead of the hand, and eyes instead of the eye, and a face instead of the face, and when I make legs instead of the leg, and a back instead of the back, and a head instead of the head... And when I make a man and a woman into one, so that a man is not a man, and a woman is not a woman, then the Kingdom of God will come."

85. Secrets & Lies
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"Secrets and lies! We're all in pain! Why can't we share our pain? I've spent my entire life trying to make people happy, and the three people I love the most in the world hate each other's guts, and I'm in the middle! I can't take it anymore!"

84. Jeanne Dielman, 23 Quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles
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It's three hours of boredom, loneliness, sadness and slowness that leads to something surprising.

83. Honey
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Slow yet beautiful tale of a young boy exploring the world around him, trying to overcome his weaknesses.

82. The Legend of Suram Fortress
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Strangely enough this is Parajanov movie I loved the most. It's filled with beauty, symbolism and fairy tale mood, which all combined create the movie one of its kind. A masterpiece.

81. Departures
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"This is done in such a way that the family does not see. The anus must sometimes be blocked. The cotton wool is rolled, and pressed deep into the anus. This prevents seepage." Yeah, I KNOW!!!

[Daniel M]

12 Angry Men and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest are good films, not seen the others :)

[Mingusings]

Woohoo! One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is my #2!

Two questions: What are some other Corbucci films besides Django that are must-sees? And how would you rate Tarantino's other films?

[weeman]

Mr Minio, when you titled your list thread here, you were more or less spot on. I'm struggling to work out whether I've watched any of these :p

[Mr Minio]

What are some other Corbucci films besides Django that are must-sees? Il mercenario is a must-see. I've also seen Navajo Joe and it's only a little worse.

And how would you rate Tarantino's other films?

Quentin Tarantino, ranked:
1. Inglorious Basterds 4
2. Django Unchained 3.5
3. Kill Bill: Vol 1 3
4. Kill Bill: Vol 2 3
5. Pulp Fiction 2

[Daniel M]

Il mercenario is a must-see. I've also seen Navajo Joe and it's only a little worse.



Quentin Tarantino, ranked:
1. Inglorious Basterds 4
2. Django Unchained 3.5
3. Kill Bill: Vol 1 3
4. Kill Bill: Vol 2 3
5. Pulp Fiction 2

You're dead to me.

[mark f]

I think The Great Silence is better than all the Corbuccis Mr Minio listed. :)

[Mr Minio]

How come I didn't mention it? It's an essential movie as well, but I love Django more for its badassity.

[HitchFan97]

12 Angry Men and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest are good films, not seen the others :)

^

[cricket]

Finally found a movie I didn't like on your list: Shutter Island. Scorsese is the favorite director of me and my wife. We both sat their stunned at how lame this movie was. We kept waiting for something to happen, and nothing ever did.

[rauldc14]

I haven't seen much of anything,but Spirited Away and 21 Grams are both insanely good. And of course, cuckoos nest.

[Guaporense]

Tokyo Story and Spirited Away are weaker than Departures? Well, every man to his taste.

I also agree that Shutter Island is among Scorsese's best movies (in fact, it's better than Goodfellas and Ranging Bull IMO).

[seanc]

Tokyo Story and Spirited Away are weaker than Departures? Well, every man to his taste.

I also agree that Shutter Island is among Scorsese's best movies (in fact, it's better than Goodfellas and Ranging Bull IMO).
Well, every man to his taste

[Mr Minio]

80. The World of Apu
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The whole trilogy is a great achievement of Indian cinema and one of the initiators of parallel cinema. I found the final part the most powerful and humane, but it's not significantly worse than the first. The second one is the weakiest, but it's still a great movie. Godlike trilogy.

79. Donnie Darko
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"-Why are you wearing that stupid bunny suit?
-Why are you wearing that stupid man suit?"

78. The Seventh Continent
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Hands down the gloomiest, saddest, most depressing Haneke film based on real events.

77. Chariots of Fire
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How should I react to this movie: It's so soppy and melodramatic, it's obvious he will do it.
How do I actually react to it: You gotta be first! Pursuit your dreams, man! You can do it! Faster!!! OMG so epic slowmo.

76. Siberia, Monamour
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Soviet cinema has always been along the best in the world and it didn't change after the fall of USSR, nor later, in 2011 when this pearl of a film was released. It's hard to believe it's a debut as it's very mature, beautifully-looking and raw in its themes.

75. Intolerance: Love's Struggle Throughout the Ages
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An epic that changed the way films are made. Being the first masterpiece in history, it portrays >>intolerance<< and love in different times, introducing new ways of filmmaking.

74. Madeo
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I can't understand why it's not as known and praised as Memories of Murder, being a lot weaker film in my opinion.

73. Ballad of a Soldier
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Moving story of Soviet soldier heading back home after he got a short permit.

72. Obchod na korze
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This (Czecho)Slovak film is probably the best portrayal of Holocaust I've ever seen. It's not violent nor pompous and sometimes it even includes some comedy touches. The ending is very tragic, though. A must-see.

71. Ćma
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One of my favourite Polish films, in which a man tries to help others through night radio audition, but also struggles through his own problems.

[cricket]

Chariots of Fire was the most boring movie going experience of my life; but I was a kid so I don't think it means much.

I want to see Donnie Darko again as it was just ok for me the first time.

[Daniel M]

Donnie Darko is a really good film, but I am beginning to wonder why people like it so much :p Not seen any of the others there.

[honeykid]

I'd encourage you to check out Chariots Of Fire, Daniel/cricket. It's a good film and, I think, told in a way which completely absorbs you. I don't find it particularly cinematic, so I'm surprised it's on Mr. Mino's list. :D

[Daniel M]

I'd encourage you to check out Chariots Of Fire, Daniel/cricket. It's a good film and, I think, told in a way which completely absorbs you. I don't find it particularly cinematic, so I'm surprised it's on Mr. Mino's list. :D

Yeh I have been told it's one of those British films you should watch, but never really seen the chance to.

Also Mr Minio, I think Film4 (British film channel) are showing the Apu trilogy this week, because I set Pather Panchali to record and it gave me the option to 'Series Link' it, which I assume means they'll have the other two parts too.

[Mr Minio]

That's great. You should totally watch it.

[donniedarko]

Never heard of Donnie Darko, +rep for madeo though

[Mr Minio]

Never heard of Persona, but I like the fact School of the Holy Beast is your number one movie.

[Mr Minio]

70. Grand Illusion
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The only Renoir film I have seen so far, but it became my instant favourite, so I'm looking forward to his other works.

69. My Night at Maud's
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I like how the first part involving an intellectual conversation is followed by the second more down-to-earth part, so the viewer can learn both about philosophy and tea ceremony.

68. Pora Umierać
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A part of my old review, because I'm too lazy to write something about it again:
There's no doubt that Pora umierać is a drama, but the beginning suggests something else. There is a short scene during which the old woman visits the doctor. She hesitantly asks if she may enter and gets an impolite answer. The doctor seems to treat her patients more like the objects than actual human beings. However, the woman doesn't remain indifferent and ripostes. Her sharp yet intelligent answer perfectly describes her character. Later, during the movie, the viewer observes her daily routines as well as relations with her son and granddaughter. The plot involves and the viewer enters the world of senility, which is, in spite of all, really beautiful. 67. The Terrorizers
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I have no idea why I still haven't seen the rest of Yang filmography, but this film alone just proves he's a genius.

66. Burmese Harp
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It's very human and touching and I guess this is enough to make somebody watch it. I believe I've watched it before any Kurosawa and only Rashomon reached the level of humanism this work presents.

65. A Page of Madness
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A couple of reasons why I love it:
- it's old
- it's surreal
- it's foreign
- it's obscure
- most of you haven't seen it
- it's awesome (the only unreal reason hehe)

64. Rashomon
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Although Kurosawa is not my favourite Japanese director and Mifune is not my favourite Japanese actor I just can't do anything than admiring this great piece of work.

63. The Call of Cthulhu
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As Lovecraftian I truly love this 2005 expressionist silent masterfully conveying the filthy mood of Lovecraft stories.

62. Three Colours: Red
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It's one of those rare trilogies, in which the next part is better than the previous. The last one, Red, is nothing less than a masterpiece and my favourite Kieślowski film.

61. Vivre Sa Vie
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My favourite Godard film so far. His wife was so adorable and attractive. By the way, if you know what movie is Anna Karina watching here, you're cool. This film is going to be pretty high on this list.

[Daniel M]

Seen Rashomon and thought it was good. Those I have heard of there I want to see, the Three Colours series I want to see, and Vivre Sa Vie, well Godard films in general as I love the first two films of his that I have seen.

[HitchFan97]

Donnie Darko is a really good film, but I am beginning to wonder why people like it so much :p Not seen any of the others there.

Again, ^.

From that last set, I absolutely love My Night at Maud's and The Terrorizers, which will definitely be on my 80s list. Rashomon and Vivre sa Vie are nice picks too, Anna Karina was never better and I do know what movie she's watching, so I guess that makes me cool :cool:

[Guaporense]

Seen Rashomon and thought it was good. Those I have heard of there I want to see, the Three Colours series I want to see, and Vivre Sa Vie, well Godard films in general as I love the first two films of his that I have seen.

Rashomon is very good but I think that some of Kurosawa's other films were even better. Rashomon appears to be Ms. Minio's favorite Kurosawa film (assuming he watched others).

[The Gunslinger45]

I ADORE Rashomon! REd was my favorite of the Three Colors Trilogy and La Grande Illusion is a good movie.

[Mr Minio]

Ms. Minio's I ain't no female, if only kinda womanish. :D

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60. Obrazy starého sveta
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Another documentary. This time it's showing elders in Slovakia's villages. Their lives, problems and dreams.

59. Stellet Licht
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As always in Reygadas film this is a story involving faith, religion and love. This is so far my favourite movie of this Mexican director, in which he tells a story of Mexican Mennonite family.

58. M
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Metropolis was cool, but this is Lang's masterpiece. A crime film that changed the genre. The last scenes of enraged mob are something to remember.

57. Repulsion
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I had a hard time picking my favourite Polański movie, because I've seen The Pianist at least four times and only seen Repulsion once, but I eventually picked the latter, since I still remember its schizophrenic mood and claustrophobic flat the most important scenes take place in.

56. Oslo, 31. august
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My favourite drug addiction movie. It's heavy and filled with depression. My favourite scene has to be the one in the end, in which the protagonist plays Händel's Suite in D Minor.

55. The Dream of a Ridiculous Man
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One of the most powerful shorts I've ever seen, based on Dostoyevski's short story, looks like moving paintings. It's filled with Biblical symbolism and plain human goodness.

54. Tale of Tales
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Leave the symbolism, history, visuals and music. This cute wolf alone deserves the place!

53. The Willow Tree
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God fulfills our dreams, grants us what we want, but instead of being thankful we use the gift to do bad things. We do not thank Him, only think the thing we just got always belonged to us. In our conceit we loose our minds, not being able to use the granted thing properly. We blame God and no longer want His gift, but when we loose it, we still are unhappy as we would be if he didn't give us anything. But it's not the end, because there's always hope.

52. Dolls
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We walk through life finding love, feeling guilt, trying to embrace ourself, change something, not being able to foreseen how long our live will last, constantly travelling through life and seasons. Bad feelings such as envy and good feelings such as love shape our personality, but ultimately we all die. It's the only thing we can't change.

51. El Topo
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Are we shapers of our fate? Do we become immortal by killing undying? Can we attain purification through meditation? Can we receive redemption no matter what we did? Is a human being able to redeem the sins by doing good deeds?

[Daniel M]

I watched El Topo the other day and absolutely loved it, Tale of Tales I love and I like The Dream of a Ridiculous Man too, I watched both as you nominated them in the short films tournament. M and Repulsion have always been pretty high up on my watchlist.

[HitchFan97]

Only seen Repulsion from that last set, which I liked. I was surprised I didn't love it though, seeing as it is exactly the type of movie I end up adoring.

[bluedeed]

Have you seen Reygadas's newest film, Mr. Minio?

[Mr Minio]

Yes. I've just watched it several days ago. 3.5

[bluedeed]

Yes. I've just watched it several days ago. 3.5

Yeah, I'd about agree with that. Much less readable and cohesive than his other features (on purpose of course) which makes sense as an autobiographical piece . It felt like a much less linear and self-contained kissing cousin to The Tree of Life, but Reygadas is too interested in very specific binaries for it to be as compelling as his other work.

[honeykid]

Yeh I have been told it's one of those British films you should watch, but never really seen the chance to.

Also Mr Minio, I think Film4 (British film channel) are showing the Apu trilogy this week, because I set Pather Panchali to record and it gave me the option to 'Series Link' it, which I assume means they'll have the other two parts too.
Film4 shows them quite often, Daniel.

[Mr Minio]

50. Sunrise
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Murnau moved to America to create this masterpiece and it was a great decision.

49. My Friend Ivan Lapshin
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Thanks to Harry Lime I was able to watch this masterpiece of a film and I'm eternally grateful. Have to watch the rest of his filmography. Seen 2 so far.

48. Come and See
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The most horrific film I've ever seen. It shows the atrocities of war and how they affect not only adults, but also children, including the main protagonist.

47. Barry Lyndon
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Every frame could be a work of art itself, from breathtaking panoramas to abundant interiors, Barry Lyndon is one of the best looking films in history.

46. The Return
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Although I've seen The Banishment twice, this is my favourite Zvyagintsev (learnt by heart how to write down his name in English ortography!) picture.

45. Euphoria
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Quirky Russian love story, in which visuals and music play the main part.

44. The Naked Island
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The movie is speechless! Pun intended.

43. Sansho the Bailiff
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Gruesome take on slavery with tearjerking ending.

42. Oldboy
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"Even though I'm no more than a monster - don't I, too, have the right to live?"

41. Poetry
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The most beautiful Chang-dong Lee movie. Watch Oasis as well.

[cricket]

I quite liked Barry Lyndon and Repulsion but Oldboy was a letdown for me. It was ok but I thought it was silly. I don't mind silly, but not when it's supposed to be serious.

[Mr Minio]

Oldboy was a letdown for me. It was ok but I thought it was silly. I don't mind silly, but not when it's supposed to be serious. What was so silly about Oldboy?

[cricket]

The whole thing for me. I know a lot of people love it, and I respect that, but that's just how I felt. I did like the twist but even that was nothing that shocking or special for me. I didn't hate the movie, but I think it's one of those things where you like it less, because of high expectations.

[Mr Minio]

Okay, I respect your opinion, sure, but saying the whole thing, doesn't explain anything at all. What exactly in Oldboy is silly?

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40. Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives
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It's my favourite movie, in which a catfish gives a sensual cunnilingus to a woman and she likes it.

39. The Eclipse
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Monica Vitti is hot as hell. Alain Delon is cool as hell and the movie is awesome as hell.

38. The Spirit of the Beehive
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Ana Torrent once again on my list! This time even higher in this Spanish movie involving bees and Frankenstein. Top notch.

37. The Element of Crime
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I've seen several von Trier films, but this is the one I loved the most. It's got dope neo-noir mood and post-apocalyptic scenery. And this narration from out of the screen. Precious.

36. Sedmikrásky
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Jitka Cerhová is hot as hell and the movie is such an incredible journey through Czechoslovak surreal New Wave it's only possible to either love it or hate it.

[Daniel M]

I watched Uncle Boonmee yesterday and loved it, I like your little text with it :p

[cricket]

It's all about expectations. I was expecting a serious, somewhat realistic drama. I only got that in the tone of the film. Mostly what I thought was silly was the way the characters acted throughout the film, and different directions the story went. It's really that simple. Maybe absurd would be a better word than silly? Even the famous fight scene; it wasn't exciting or believable, but I wouldn't think it was silly in a standard action film. I really thought it was a mess, but with good qualities.

[wintertriangles]

It's all about expectations.Isn't that 99% on you then?

[honeykid]

He didn't say it wasn't. He said it was a letdown and he thought it was silly.

[cricket]

Isn't that 99% on you then?

I really don't know how to answer that. I mean, my expectations were based upon what I had heard about the film. I could really just say that anyone would be responsible for their expectations or feelings about a film. Isn't that kind of obvious?

[wintertriangles]

I really don't know how to answer that. I mean, my expectations were based upon what I had heard about the film. I could really just say that anyone would be responsible for their expectations or feelings about a film. Isn't that kind of obvious?You could say that, given the expectations impeded the purpose of whatever film. I tend to see lots of foreign films maintain both a serious and whimsical mood, so generally I have zero expectations and it is thus much easier to digest/critique something from a clean slate. I'm not offended by not liking Oldboy, it's my least favorite Park film, but it being silly because you wanted something hard-boiled just struck me as a bit odd.

[cricket]

The tone of the film, at least to me, suggests a serious and believable film. I'm not sure how you can find my simple opinion odd. If that is truly odd to you, then I guess you haven't seen many odd things in your life.

[wintertriangles]

The tone of the film, at least to me, suggests a serious and believable film. I'm not sure how you can find my simple opinion odd. If that is truly odd to you, then I guess you haven't seen many odd things in your life.So..pointing out something that is odd, means nothing else is odd? What? This is going nowhere. Minio continue on

[cricket]

So..pointing out something that is odd, means nothing else is odd? What? This is going nowhere. Minio continue on

You're telling me my feelings about a movie are odd; you may like the movie and that's fine, but my feelings about it can't be argued.

[wintertriangles]

You're telling me my feelings about a movie are odd; you may like the movie and that's fine, but my feelings about it can't be argued.And yet here we are several posts in ;)

[cricket]

And yet here we are several posts in ;)

And guess what? My feelings haven't changed and you didn't get the answers you were looking for. So what was the point?

[wintertriangles]

And guess what? My feelings haven't changed and you didn't get the answers you were looking for. So what was the point?I did get the answers I was looking for. I don't try to sway opinions when they're based in..well, nothing.

[cricket]

I did get the answers I was looking for. I don't try to sway opinions when they're based in..well, nothing.

That's really just pretty ignorant. I am really enjoying Mr. Minio's list, not necessarily because we have the same interest in films, but because I like his style. I give my honest feelings about the movies from his list I have seen. You do understand that I saw the movie, right? That would be where my feelings towards it are based from. It's not that hard to understand. You may not like it, but you should accept it, because that's the way it is.

[wintertriangles]

You're taking what I say far too seriously. I accepted your feelings a page ago.

[cricket]

You're taking what I say far too seriously. I accepted your feelings a page ago.

You may be right; I like reading your posts all the time, but I'm just responding to you. I'm still pretty new to Internet forums. I won't have anything else to say on this matter.:highfive:

[Mr Minio]

35. Confessions
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Incredible Japanese psychological thriller with a lot of twists and really immoral themes. Kids killing kids? That's wrong on so many levels.

34. Olympia
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Hands down the best sports documentary I've ever seen. Thanks to unlimited Nazi money it's technically unbeliveable and shows rivalry like no other film.

33. The Face of Another
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Woman in the Dunes was already a movie I loved and I thought nothing from Teshigahara can be better, but the next movie I've seen from him turned out to be a flawless masterpiece. Oh, comely. Neutral Milk Hotel. What?

32. Harakiri
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My favourite Jidaigeki film and favourite Nakadai performance. Also it features my favourite melee weapon duel ever.

31. Eureka
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Masterful psychological drama as good as My God, My God, Why Hast Thou Forsaken Me?, but I had to pick one and since I think this one is more accessible (it doesn't feature noise music, but is a lot longer instead) I figured it would be better to watch it first. It's all thinking about you guys. If only anybody would like to watch it, I'd be happy.

[Sane]

I think that's the first time I've seen Confessions mentioned on this site. It's a brilliant film and in my top 10 favourites. I wish I could give more rep :)

[The Gunslinger45]

Harakiri is an exclllent film!

[HitchFan97]

Wooo, The Face of Another! :up:

[Guaporense]

The whole thing for me. I know a lot of people love it, and I respect that, but that's just how I felt. I did like the twist but even that was nothing that shocking or special for me. I didn't hate the movie, but I think it's one of those things where you like it less, because of high expectations.

Yeah, I also though it was quite silly. But still good, but it felt really superficial, like a Nolan movie. It's a movie that's more adequate for 6th graders than adults.

[mark f]

??

[Daniel M]

These 'this movie is for this age group' comments annoy me...

[Sane]

Yeah, I also though it was quite silly. But still good, but it felt really superficial, like a Nolan movie. It's a movie that's more adequate for 6th graders than adults.
You know when you sometimes make a statement, and then everyone piles in, and you get pissed at people picking on you. That was one of those statements ;)

Sorry dude, to suggest a movie about revenge, incest, more revenge, suicide, and more revenge is a movie adequate for 6th graders is, well, odd :)

I believe one of your favourite films is Dr Strangelove, which is remarkably silly at times, but that's the point. That in no way makes it superficial or a movie for kids. It's the same with Oldboy - of course it's silly at times. All of Park's films are. It's predecessor, Sympathy for Mr Vengeance, was much more silly but that's a technique that Park uses to balance the violence.

In regards to Cricket not liking Oldboy, that is completely understandable. The only thing I would suggest is that he said his issues were expectations - but that isn't the movies fault. Apparently wherever he heard about the movie gave incorrect information. He said it was supposed to be serious - it wasn't. Serious themes, yes, serious movie, no.

Still, nothing wrong with not liking it - certainly not a film that anyone would expect to appeal to everybody but for me it's one of the best films of the last 20 years.

[cricket]

I actually agree with Guap on that; it's just hard to put it in a way that doesn't offend the film's fans, and it's certainly not meant to do that. Even with the violence and sexuality, I felt it was aimed toward a younger audience. I feel the same way about The Devil's Rejects, which is one of my favorite movies. It has very strong adult content, but it's aimed towards a young audience I think. Same with films like Saw, Hostel, and Battle Royale. Of course Oldboy is more complex than those, but that's just the way I saw it. It could just be my particular point of view, or maybe I'm just getting too old.

[Sane]

I actually agree with Guap on that; it's just hard to put it in a way that doesn't offend the film's fans, and it's certainly not meant to do that. Even with the violence and sexuality, I felt it was aimed toward a younger audience. I feel the same way about The Devil's Rejects, which is one of my favorite movies. It has very strong adult content, but it's aimed towards a young audience I think. Same with films like Saw, Hostel, and Battle Royale. Of course Oldboy is more complex than those, but that's just the way I saw it. It could just be my particular point of view, or maybe I'm just getting too old.
I don't have any issue with that. I don't agree but can see why someone else may see it that way. However that's somewhat different to what Guap said - which was essentially 11 year olds. To me it's very odd for someone to think a movie like Oldboy is "adequate for" children.

[Guaporense]

You know when you sometimes make a statement, and then everyone piles in, and you get pissed at people picking on you. That was one of those statements ;)

People need to learn to respect other people and act like civilized human beings. I talk about movies not about their wives.

Sorry dude, to suggest a movie about revenge, incest, more revenge, suicide, and more revenge is a movie adequate for 6th graders is, well, odd :)

I know that I would have liked this movie more when I was 12-13 than now. 12 year olds love violence, gore and revenge movies. I watched City of God when I was 13, loved it, I watched Gladiator when I was 10, loved it.

13 year olds love stuff like OldBoy, Saw, Battle Royale and Hostel.

However, all these movies are quite good, actually. And I enjoyed greatly all of them but none are actually smart and subtle movies. In fact, my favorite movie, PMMM is quite similar to these movies in tone in many ways (but with a much more intelligent and complex plot and very deep characterization), PMMM is very much like a smarter 4 hour long Saw.

I believe one of your favourite films is Dr Strangelove, which is remarkably silly at times, but that's the point. That in no way makes it superficial or a movie for kids. It's the same with Oldboy - of course it's silly at times.

Dr. Strangelove is a profoundly cynical comedy that's self conscious of it's silliness and is an incredibly smart movie. Oldboy is a silly drama movie that is not conscious of it's silliness. That's a huge difference.

All of Park's films are. It's predecessor, Sympathy for Mr Vengeance, was much more silly but that's a technique that Park uses to balance the violence.

I see, I haven't watched his other movies but they appear to be good.

In regards to Cricket not liking Oldboy, that is completely understandable. The only thing I would suggest is that he said his issues were expectations - but that isn't the movies fault. Apparently wherever he heard about the movie gave incorrect information. He said it was supposed to be serious - it wasn't. Serious themes, yes, serious movie, no.

I see, maybe I didn't get it very well. It's more like a Coens movie in that regard.

I don't have any issue with that. I don't agree but can see why someone else may see it that way. However that's somewhat different to what Guap said - which was essentially 11 year olds. To me it's very odd for someone to think a movie like Oldboy is "adequate for" children.

Do you think that 12 years old watch what type of movies? I was watching everything when I was 12-13 years old and I liked extremely violent and sexual movies more at that time than I do now at the age of 24.

12 year old boys obviously do not watch stuff like Pixar movies, they think it's silly and "for children", they want blood, sex, over the top acting and explosions.

[wintertriangles]

Dr. Strangelove is a profoundly cynical comedy that's self conscious of it's silliness and is an incredibly smart movie. Oldboy is a silly drama movie that is not conscious of it's silliness. That's a huge difference.How is jumping out of a suitcase in a flowery meadow or the waltz music over his fake smile not self-aware? Don't answer that.

[mark f]

12 year old boys obviously do not watch stuff like Pixar movies, they think it's silly and "for children", they want blood, sex, over the top acting and explosions.
Interesting. It sounds like you're saying all violent, revenge-themed movies are made for 12-year-olds, not adults, except perhaps PMMM. I don't want to discuss the movies, but I'm wondering if any of these 12-year-olds have any adult supervision, or if the whole world is like Pixote, Streetwise and Salaam Bombay!. I know where I taught, the boys discussed watching pornos and violent movies when they were younger (some said they were eight or nine) and they did that with older family members and friends, so it may be common, but I don't have to be happy about it or think it's "normal".

[honeykid]

Do you think that 12 years old watch what type of movies? I was watching everything when I was 12-13 years old and I liked extremely violent and sexual movies more at that time than I do now at the age of 24.

12 year old boys obviously do not watch stuff like Pixar movies, they think it's silly and "for children", they want blood, sex, over the top acting and explosions.
I agree with Guap completely here. When I was 10-13, I had trouble getting any of my friends to watch anything that wasn't X (18) rated (X as opposed to XXX, you understand) and, even as an 'enlightened' boy of that age, with a few favourite exceptions, you'd have done well to get me excited about seeing anything lower than AA (15) rated.

[The Rodent]

Just caught up on this list... Mr Minio was right, I've never heard of any of these.

Jk... it's a pretty damn good list MM... some choices in here that not even some of the most seasoned MoFos would have picked :up:

[Sane]

Do you think that 12 years old watch what type of movies? I was watching everything when I was 12-13 years old and I liked extremely violent and sexual movies more at that time than I do now at the age of 24.

12 year old boys obviously do not watch stuff like Pixar movies, they think it's silly and "for children", they want blood, sex, over the top acting and explosions.
Not sure why this has turned into a discussion about what 12 year olds like because it's very clear that's not what I was talking about.

You said "It's a movie that's more adequate for 6th graders than adults". So, more adequate for children than adults. Not that 12 year olds would like it.

Of course they would like it!

Anyway, not going to continue too much. This comment sums up the issue here:

Dr. Strangelove is a profoundly cynical comedy that's self conscious of it's silliness and is an incredibly smart movie. Oldboy is a silly drama movie that is not conscious of it's silliness. That's a huge difference.

A silly movie you love = conscious of silliness and incredibly smart. Silly movie lots of other people love = silly drama not conscious of silliness.

I mean, did you see the octopus eating scene??? ;)

[Sane]

I agree with Guap completely here. When I was 10-13, I had trouble getting any of my friends to watch anything that wasn't X (18) rated (X as opposed to XXX, you understand) and, even as an 'enlightened' boy of that age, with a few favourite exceptions, you'd have done well to get me excited about seeing anything lower than AA (15) rated.
Yup, he's 100% right - on an issue that wasn't being discussed. 12 year olds would like Pulp Fiction too but that doesn't suddenly make it a kids movie :)

[Camo]

Not sure why this has turned into a discussion about what 12 year olds like because it's very clear that's not what I was talking about.

You said "It's a movie that's more adequate for 6th graders than adults". So, more adequate for children than adults. Not that 12 year olds would like it.

Of course they would like it!

Anyway, not going to continue too much. This comment sums up the issue here:


A silly movie you love = conscious of silliness and incredibly smart. Silly movie lots of other people love = silly drama not conscious of silliness.

I mean, did you see the octopus eating scene??? ;)

Apparently that was a real live Octopus :sick:

[Guaporense]

Interesting. It sounds like you're saying all violent, revenge-themed movies are made for 12-year-olds, not adults

That was not my intention. I don't think one could interpret that I said that there are some movies targeted for people under 18 that contain a lot of sex and violence, so they are rated R but the makers expect people under 18 to watch them. Of course, there are some R rated movies made for people over 18.

I don't want to discuss the movies, but I'm wondering if any of these 12-year-olds have any adult supervision, or if the whole world is like Pixote, Streetwise and Salaam Bombay!. I know where I taught, the boys discussed watching pornos and violent movies when they were younger (some said they were eight or nine) and they did that with older family members and friends, so it may be common, but I don't have to be happy about it or think it's "normal".

I also agree that children are too exposed to violence these days but that's a fact: I watched City of God when I was 13 in my school because the teacher showed that movie to us.

[Mr Minio]

People need to learn to respect other people and act like civilized human beings. I talk about movies not about their wives. I don't have wife, so I have to strongly react when somebody says something about my favourite movie. xD

13 year olds love stuff like OldBoy, Saw, Battle Royale and Hostel. Wow. Oldboy next to films like these is highly inappropriate. Battle Royale and Saw were good too (at least the first part for the latter), but Hostel was a pretty bad movie. I don't know why you underestimate Oldboy's story. It's much more complex than the plots in movies you listed. I haven't seen PMMM, but given its length it may tell much more complex and developed story due to its length, which doesn't change the fact that Oldboy is multi-layered and much more wise than you may except.

Dr. Strangelove is a profoundly cynical comedy that's self conscious of it's silliness and is an incredibly smart movie. Oldboy is a silly drama movie that is not conscious of it's silliness. That's a huge difference. Oldboy's violent scenes derive from i.e. Tarantino among others and they are there not just for the sake, but are some kind of a counterbalance to psychological aspects of the plot such as Oedipus complex. They're completely deliberate.


As for my top I decided to write some longer anecdotes being just me mumbling about how I found such films and how I liked them etc. So, here we go:
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30. The Tree of Life
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To begin with, this movie, unlike most of the films on this list, didn't become my instant favourite. I watched it shortly after its premiere and it left me cold. I liked its visuals, but couldn't get into the story. After a year I decided to watch it again. The second time around the visuals have stricken me more and the overall atmosphere of the movie made me jump on one leg screaming "MOAR MOAR MOAR!". Well, maybe it wasn't so graphic, but it was a hell of an experience, anyway. It's incredible what Lubezki did here. Cinematography from the other world. Malick as always uses a voice from out of the screen and tries to convert some ideas, but the interpretation is pretty much left to the viewers.

29. Trys dienos
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I remember it like it was yesterday. Out of boredom I started watching my first Bartas film, A Casa. (watching boring film to fight boredom? witty) It starts off with Erbarme mich, a part of Bach's Matthäus Passion, then it features a long shot of some parrots flying around in dilapidated room. Some people appear and the atmosphere is quite surreal. Nobody talks. Later on some crazy folks dance around. It was an otherworldly experience. The next Bartas film I loved as much, but it's the second I loved even more. (loved more than love, so maybe worshipped is a right word, but I'm far from creating an altar in the name of Bartas). It's pretty much a minimalistic story of some folks walking around etc., but the atmosphere and the feelings I get from this film are the ones I rarely get from any movie. When the main protagonist began to cry I didn't know why did she cry, but I felt sympathy for her, I felt her depression. That's an overwhelming feeling. That's a masterpiece. I'm yet to see Bartas movie not being a masterpiece BTW. I've seen 3 so far and I regard all of them as masterpiece. You'll bash me for using this word too much, but I don't care. Masterpiece. Masterpiece. Masterpiece. TROLLOLOLO.

28. Diamonds of the Night
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I don't remember the exact circumstances of me watching this film. It was probably this obscure Czechoslovak film I wanted to see, because there was somebody I had on my friends list on some movie site that had seen it and loved it. I wanted to figure out what's all the fuzz about, so I watched it and PUM! A masterpiece. It's as easy as that. You find an obscure movie and watch it and it's either good or bad, but sometimes it's BOOM SHAKALAKA a masterpiece. And it was a masterpiece, the best Czechoslovak I've ever seen. It's once again surreal as hell and I loved how it shows what would happen if some people had done something they didn't do and then gets back to the beginning of the situation and we aren't exactly sure what a character will do. It's really sad and has a great, wise ending that can be interpreted in many ways.

27. Dealer
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Why the hell did I say Oslo August 31. is my favourite drug addiction movie. This is the one, of course, but you will call me an unreliable narrator now. Who cares, anyway, while we have a real Belatarrish masterpiece right here. I watched Fliegauf's Clone aka Womb before and loved it, so I watched this movie after and it turned out to be a hell of a film, a masterpiece (any synonyms for the word, really?). In its coldness and gloomines it greatly resembles the works of Hungarian genius Bela Tarr. It features really long takes and a situation that feels hopeless. The ambient score made by the director himself is a great supplement to the movie, as well. It makes the mood even darker and sinister, if it makes any sense, since it's been like that to the max before. There's no hope whatsoever, so just watch it in one rainy day.

26. About Nice
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Since I posted my RYM review in the Movie Tab II not that long ago, I don't really now what more should I say about this Vigo film. I know! There are boobs in it! Go and watch it! LOL

[Sane]

Apparently that was a real live Octopus :sick:
Yeah, wonder if we'll see Josh Brolin doing that in the remake ... ;)

BTW, for anyone who is interested, the light & shade that is, to me, very obvious in Oldboy is quite common in Korean movies - and exists but is less obvious in other Asian movies.

To me it's very much an aspect of many Asian cultures. Their food is often a balance of flavours - salt and sugar, chilli & coconut, etc. Same with many Asian religions - everything in life is a balance.

In Park's movies there is always a balance between darkness and light. Kim Ki Duk is another - he made the stunningly beautiful Spring, Summer ... but is often criticised for his movies being too violent. The Isle again is a beautiful movie with an occasionally tender love story involving a mute girl - and then there is the genital mutilation scene ...

Movies from China, Hong Kong & Taiwan tend to have a lot of light and shade but it is depicted in a less extreme manner that in Korean movies.

[HandyApe]

Diamonds of the Night is a great film!

[Mr Minio]

25. The Cook, the Thief, His Wife and Her Lover
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Now that there's no doubt Greenaway has his own ideas and vision of art, it's hard not to say the movie is a mish-mash of Titus Andronicus and La Grande bouffe seasoned with some strong scenes of violence and the Spaghetti Western alike vengeance, creating a film one of its kind, breathtakingly beautiful in its form and appealing story-wise, efficiently acted and directed. Can't wait to see more Greenaway.

24. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring
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The hardest decision I've made so far. It's fairly impossible to pick my favourite Kim Ki-duk film, but I finally decided to choose this one, be it only because it was the first movie made by him I've seen and it made me watch the others. It's a Buddhism-associated look at both the ever-changing world and the things that remain unchanged. I really think the truth given by this movie is universal, so it transcends the borders of Buddhism or any religion at all, creating sort of versatile meaning.

23. Blade Runner
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This is the best example on how blockbusters should be made. The movie has thrilling action sequences, neo-noir atmosphere, Vangelis splendid score, Rutger Hauer's lifetime role and while being everything it is, it still asks us about our humanity.

22. As I Was Moving Ahead Occasionally I Saw Brief Glimpses of Beauty
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Jonas Mekas watches the tapes he recorded and all these moments enliven once again. An incredible diary film, being basically 5 hours of home videos, shows us a happy family and makes us wonder about our own life. I wrote some sort of a review in Movie Tab II the other day, but I don't think I can find it.

21. Aguirre: The Wrath of God
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Two madmen Herzog and Kinski team up to tell a story of manic madcap (perfect role for Kinski, isn't it?) and succeed on every level creating one of the most memorable movie experiences ever. There are movies that need some time to develop, but it's not the case with Aguirre. It starts off showing a group of people heading down the misty hill, which along with Popul Vuh soundtrack creates an unforgettable atmosphere. And all of this just at the beginning!

[Guaporense]

I don't have wife, so I have to strongly react when somebody says something about my favourite movie. xD

I see.

Wow. Oldboy next to films like these is highly inappropriate. Battle Royale and Saw were good too (at least the first part for the latter), but Hostel was a pretty bad movie. I don't know why you underestimate Oldboy's story. It's much more complex than the plots in movies you listed.

Yeah, Oldboy's plot is quite complex and I agree it's a better movie than the other 3 I have listed, but it's similar in the sense that these 4 movies were made for an young audience in mind. The 40-50-60 year olds weren't the ones for which these movies were made, they appeal more to people from 13-25 age bracket.

The Cook, the Thief, His Wife and Her Lover is also another movie that I would consider more appropriate for an young audience than the 40-60 year old demographic. It's a very good movie though, I rate it as a 4/5 movie. Aguirre is a 5/5 movie, certainly a 1st rate classic.

which doesn't change the fact that Oldboy is multi-layered and much more wise than you may except.

I was hard on it earlier, I actually rate it as a 4 movie and it almost made my top 200. But it's like Kill Bill in being a movie that a 20 year old will probably enjoy more than a 50 year old. That also applies to many of my favorite movies.

[Daniel M]

I think that The Tree of Life is a great film too, although unfortunately is seems to be a movie people love to hate around here.

Blade Runner and Aguirre are great too, and I recently saw The Cook, the Thief, his Wife & her Lover and I agree it's a fantastic film :)

[Guaporense]

I found it horrible. But it's a movie that divides audiences.

[Mr Minio]

I don't really thing the movies, besides animated ones and erotic/porn, are made for target audience only. Look at animation films even, some of them are for adults. The fact kids watch the stuff they shouldn't doesn't mean the stuff was made especially for them.

[Mr Minio]

20. The Fifth Seal
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No, it's not a mistake. It's not Bergman's most known film, but Hungarian gem almost unknown to broader audience. It's all about moral choices. When one of the men tells the parable of a slave man, the others think what they would do if they were the slave. Later on they would face another moral decision, a lot more important than the one they've been thinking about before.

19. Salto
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An incredible poetic film starring the most characteristic Polish actor Zbigniew Cybulski that can be interpreted in many ways. To me it's a story of a false prophet, but it's not your ordinary prophet that wants to fob people. It's something else and much more, but one has to see the movie to understand what I'm talking about.

[weeman]

I'm still struggling to work out whether I've seen any of these films. Touche with your initial question Mr Minio. Have I seen any? Maybe not.

[Daniel M]

I'm still struggling to work out whether I've seen any of these films. Touche with your initial question Mr Minio. Have I seen any? Maybe not.

You've seen Shutter Island and Drive haven't you? They were on the list early on :p So maybe 2 ;)

[Mr Minio]

18. Sans soleil
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"The first image he told me about was of three children on a road in Iceland in 1965. He said that for him it was the image of happiness, and also that he had tried several times to link it to other images, but it never worked. He wrote me, 'One day I'll have to put it all alone at the beginning of a film, with a long piece of black leader. If they don't see happiness in the picture, at least they'll see the black.' "

17. Inland Empire
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Link to my review/analysis/something I wrote after I've seen the movie: here (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=900876).

[Daniel M]

Inland Empire is awesome, haven't seen Sans Soleil but I love La Jetee so I will watch it one day. I'll check out your post now, although I remember seeing it at the time.

[weeman]

You've seen Shutter Island and Drive haven't you? They were on the list early on :p So maybe 2 ;)

I have seen 12, along with most of "The James Bond Franchise" and the first of "The Lethal Weapon Films", which I didn't like :p

Guess which Dan. Guess. It's not that hard :p

[Daniel M]

I have seen 12, along with most of "The James Bond Franchise" and the first of "The Lethal Weapon Films", which I didn't like :p

Guess which Dan. Guess. It's not that hard :p

So 10 other films? Hmmm maybe Se7en, Platoon, Inglourious Basterds, Star Wars, Lost In Translation, Schindler's List, 12 Angry Men, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Donnie Darko, Blade Runner and Inland Empire.

That's 11, so take out a few maybe and/or throw in another few I missed :p

[weeman]

So 10 other films? Hmmm maybe Se7en, Platoon, Inglourious Basterds, Star Wars, Lost In Translation, Schindler's List, 12 Angry Men, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Donnie Darko, Blade Runner and Inland Empire.

That's 11, so take out a few maybe and/or throw in another few I missed :p

7/11 not bad actually. :D

[Mr Minio]

12/169? It looks like you've got a lot of watching before you.

[weeman]

12/169? It looks like you've got a lot of watching before you.

I will admit I do :p

Still, on other people's lists, I have seen quite a few, on yours, not a lot ;)

[Daniel M]

I have only seen 30 myself (and I have seen all the James Bond films but I am counting them as one title), but with all these European films I don't think it's surprising due to the accessibility of some of the titles. Even Mark said he had only seen about 60% at one point. Most of these films people won't see unless they deliberately try to find them :)

[Mr Minio]

That's how I watch movies. I deliberately find them. I don't just put on TV and watch whatever's on. This way I would have way more films rated 2 and below.

[Daniel M]

That's how I watch movies. I deliberately find them. I don't just put on TV and watch whatever's on. This way I would have way more films rated 2 and below.

Yeh same, because there is so little movies I have seen in the grand scheme I can easily find more 'great' ones thanks to lists, articles, critics etc. once you have seen all naturally you'll watch less one with lesser ratings. That's why most my ratings are high in the movie tab, because I tend to watch films either that are regarded good or look good to me! :)

[weeman]

That's how I watch movies. I deliberately find them. I don't just put on TV and watch whatever's on. This way I would have way more films rated 2 and below.

It's about 50/50 with me. I know there are films which I definitely want to see sometime, and will more often than not enjoy, and then there are films on the telly which I just watch on a whim, in the hope that I will enjoy them. I think if you don't go and watch things outside your comfort zone (this is in no way a criticism, this is just my observation, each to their own and all that. Just in case :p), you'll never find "that one film" you love outside your comfort zone.

Also, I watch films with my brother too when he buys a new DVD. Most are awful. Like this one :(:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9c/Movies_the_sweeney_poster.jpg/220px-Movies_the_sweeney_poster.jpg

:(

[honeykid]

Most of these films people won't see unless they deliberately try to find them :)
And there's little reason to do that. :p

[Daniel M]

(sorry for hijacking your thread Mr Minio)

I actually watched that film quite recently, with my step-dad, Luke (this is Weeman for those wondering who I am talking to). I agree it's not very good, but it has this guy :p

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/20/article-2176403-14237B84000005DC-304_634x328.jpg

[weeman]

(sorry for hijacking your thread Mr Minio)

I actually watched that film quite recently, with my step-dad, Luke (this is Weeman for those wondering who I am talking to). I agree it's not very good, but it has this guy :p

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/20/article-2176403-14237B84000005DC-304_634x328.jpg

I just kept thinking: "Why does Sgt. Nicolas Brody have an English accent?" :rolleyes:

[Mr Minio]

I think if you don't go and watch things outside your comfort zone (this is in no way a criticism, this is just my observation, each to their own and all that. Just in case :p) I watch every kind of movies. Tell that to those users that hate foreign films (you know what I'm thinking about)

[weeman]

I watch every kind of movies. Tell that to those users that hate foreign films (you know what I'm thinking about)

Great to hear :p And I do :p

[mark f]

There are an amazing amount of 2 and less movies where nothing happens! Mr Minio, you might love them. :)

[Mr Minio]

Nothing-happens-in-here movies have guaranteed 3 at the beginning. Only nunsploitation has greater head start having guaranteed 5. :D

[The Gunslinger45]

Nothing-happens-in-here movies have guaranteed 3 at the beginning. Only nunsploitation has greater head start having guaranteed 5. :D

I thought that rating was reserved for your favorite movie, Werckmeister Harmonies ;)

[Mr Minio]

It was a joke, but then again I still haven't seen any nunsploitation, so it's still unsettled.

[The Gunslinger45]

It was a joke, but then again I still haven't seen any nunsploitation, so it's still unsettled.

I know. :D

Yeah I have not taken that plunge. Work I have seen are Caligula and a certain obscure Belgian art movie with pigs. :sick:

[Mr Minio]

I still haven't seen the pig movie! Thanks for reminding me.

[The Gunslinger45]

I still haven't seen the pig movie! Thanks for reminding me.

Your welcome. It is on YouTube!

[The Gunslinger45]

I amend my previous statement to include I Spit on your Grave among the hardest to watch films due to subject matter.

[Mr Minio]

Yeah, I haven't seen it, but there's a whole 'Rape & Revenge' genre. ;)

[The Gunslinger45]

Yeah, I haven't seen it, but there's a whole 'Rape & Revenge' genre. ;)

Yeah movies like Ms 45 and the like.

[Mr Minio]

16. The Man Who Sleeps
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Possibly the greatest depiction of escapism and depression in cinema.

15. Into Great Silence
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Oh come on, the documentary portraying the life of monks is a movie I was entitled to love.

[cricket]

Strangely enough for me, I actually saw The Cook, the Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover at the movies when it was out. I liked it quite a bit.

Another Blade Runner fan equals another reason for me to try it again.

[Mr Minio]

Didn't you like Blade Runner? What didn't you like?

[honeykid]

Rape/Revenge and Nuns? I gotcha covered Mr Mino.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3b/Ms._45_Poster.jpg/220px-Ms._45_Poster.jpg
The French version if uncut.

And, for the foreign movie snob in you.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/00/Theycallheroneeye.jpg/215px-Theycallheroneeye.jpg
Thriller - A Cruel Picture aka They Call Her One Eye

[Mr Minio]

It's the first time I like your recommendation. Thanks.

[honeykid]

Well, there's a first time for everything. :D

[cricket]

Didn't you like Blade Runner? What didn't you like?

I don't even remember it that well. I just remember that I thought it was very boring. But it was a long time ago and I want to give it another fair chance.

[honeykid]

It is very boring. Every version I've seen has been very boring.

[HitchFan97]

Blade Runner, aww yeah. Pleasantly surprised to see Inland Empire up so high.

[Gabrielle947]

That's how I watch movies. I deliberately find them. I don't just put on TV and watch whatever's on. This way I would have way more films rated 2 and below.

Oh please,for Europeans it's easier to find arthouse films because Europeans make most arthouse films.There are some TV channels in my country which show arthouse stuff(mostly Russian) only I don't watch it.

[Mr Minio]

14. Once Upon a Time in America
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Before I saw it I thought I don't like gangster movies. After I saw it it became one of my favourite films ever. De Niro gives his best performance (silence Taxi Driver fans, that's my opinion) and Morricone once again creates a masterful soundtrack. That giant gap in Leone's career was all worth it.

13. Wings of Desire
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This film is a great example on how Hollywood takes an arthouse film and changes it into s(l)oppy melodrama with Nicholas Cage so more people watch it. Well, I quite like the remake to be honest, but compared to original it's horrible. To me Der Himmel über Berlin is like a poetry, like a prayer. The movie I understood perfectly, but not with my mind (that also), but with my heart.

[The Gunslinger45]

Silence? NEVER! :D Srsly though, great movie Once Upon a Time in America. 4 hours long and never dull

[Daniel M]

Once Upon a Time in America is a terrific film and worthy of a place so high. Beautiful (in ways) film.

[Mr Minio]

12. Las
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My favourite Polish movie ever made looks like a weird mix of Tarkovsky and Tarr. Of course, it's very slow paced and weird, but that's what cool people like.

11. Visitor of a Museum
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My favourite post-apocalyptic film. More about it here (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=906967).

[HitchFan97]

I love Once Upon a Time in America. Haven't seen the others, but given my love of Paris, Texas I really ought to try Wings of Desire.

[Mr Minio]

Mind you the movies are nothing alike, but both are masterpieces.

[honeykid]

+ rep for both Once Upon A Time In America and Wings Of Desire. I preferred Alice In The Cities, but that's the only other Wim Wenders film I've seen. Nothing else of his seems to appeal to me. :shrug:

[Mr Minio]

10. Fanny and Alexander

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Ingmar Bergman, one of the most known foreign arthouse filmmakers, has made a ton of films. I had a pleasure to watch 20 of them and I more or less liked them all, but there's no doubt that Fanny och Alexander is Bergman's richest, if not most accomplished film. Films such as The Seventh Seal, Wild Strawberries, Vertical Trilogy and Persona are recommended before you even start to think about watching this enormous piece. Not only because it contains all the themes Bergman has placed in his previous works, but also due to its complexity, duration and style. I have seen the TV version lasting five hours in one sitting with no breaks and it was one of the best experiences in my life. Sven Nykvist must have been superhuman to create such a cinematography. Scenography is beyond words - probably the best in history. Bergman was grabbed of Oscar again. If not two. Thankfully the film got 4 Oscars, which is probably some kind of a record for a foreign movie. I don't know myself, mark f would probably know. So basically we have a take on childhood, magic, faith, family bonds and much more, while the movie stays easy to grasp with no importuning philosophy. I mean, there's plenty of it, but hidden in symbols and therefore the movie seems interesting for wider audience.

[Daniel M]

Well you know from the rate the last movie thread that I watched the TV version uninterrupted the other night, and you know how I found it. Great experience and a magnificent film. Everything about it is fantastic, so ambitious and everything seems so perfect and real, a truly great film and one of the very best I have ever seen. It might even be in my next top 10 ;)

[Guaporense]

Fanny and Alexander is one of the few genuine masterpieces of television.

[Guaporense]

I am holding up for Wings of Desire for quite some time.

[Mr Minio]

9. Red Psalm
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Built of only 25 long takes Miklós Jancsó's luxuriant tour de force Még kér a nép is a cornucopia of vivid colours, poetic nudity and succulent symbolism. With a big dose of Communist anthems and specific choreography it becomes a pean in the name of brotherhood and solidarity. Simply put it's awesome and you have to watch it!

[HitchFan97]

Fanny and Alexander:

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/106/887/backpain-1292835351.jpg

[Mr Minio]

8. Le révélateur
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The movie was almost a metaphysical experience to me. It's mute and therefore based entirely on the visuals. Presented images belong to one of my favourites in the history of cinema. There's nothing more to say as the movie has no conventional story, but is rather a collage of stunning images that make you think, or just enjoy the technical perfection achieved while making them.

[Lucas]

8. Le révélateur
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The movie was almost a metaphysical experience to me. It's mute and therefore based entirely on the visuals. Presented images belong to one of my favourites in the history of cinema. There's nothing more to say as the movie has no conventional story, but is rather a collage of stunning images that make you think, or just enjoy the technical perfection achieved while making them.



Sounds very interesting. Mr.Minio if you don't mind me asking, where do you find out about alot of these films on your list.A hefty amount of them, I have never even heard of before.

[Mr Minio]

I usually scan various movie-related sites such as IMDB, RYM, Mubi and Filmweb and try to find some users that share my tastes. Then I look through their highest ratings to find films or directors I'd probably like.

[Mr Minio]

7. The Passion of Joan of Arc
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The movie shows last days of Joan of Arc adapted from original documents of the trial. Maria Falconetti gives my favourite female performance in history and everything else, from cinematography to supporting actors, is exceptional. Especially face close-ups and lack of make up that make the film far more realistic and poignant. I recommend Voices of Light version.

[Daniel M]

I watched this the other week, Voices of Light version too. It was good, and it's definitely an 'essential' film in many ways, but I didn't 'feel it' as much as you and some others, unfortunately.

[The Gunslinger45]

The Passion of Joan of Arc is an amazing film! Very powerful

[mark f]

You know I watched The Passion of Joan of Arc for the first time with an orchestral accompaniment and a live performance of Voices of Light by Anonymous 4 and others at the Segerstrom Center For the Arts. It was on our wedding anniversary. Composer Richard Einhorn was interviewed by critic Charles Champlin beforehand. We sat about ten rows back from the stage, and they lowered a viewing screen from the rafters. It was really quite unique.

It looked something like this:
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2006/02/18/arts/tommassini.span.jpg

But it was at this venue:
http://ocyso.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/5-lrg-480x360.jpg

[Mr Minio]

Wow. It must have been a glorious experience, mark f!

[HitchFan97]

Mark, that sounds freaking awesome. I watched The Passion of Joan of Arc just recently, also with Voices of Light, and it is quite a powerful experience. Falconetti is amazing, if anything it's maybe just a bit too dour for my tastes.

[Mr Minio]

6. Last Year at Marienbad
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It's so mind-tuggling I still don't understand everything in this film, but it doesn't stop me from loving it. I believe that the shortest possible way to describe it is a guide on how our memory works. The mysterious atmosphere and constant enigma are something I love about cinema. I found the game presented in it pretty good to play with friends. You should try it. There's even an explanation how to win every time somewhere, but I didn't read it to just have fun and equal winning chances. Hiroshima, mon amour I found almost as good, but sadly I haven't seen any other Resnais film.

[Mr Minio]

The lack of feedback kind of shocks me considering it's a highly regarded movie on here.

[mark f]

I just saw the post. I think some others are back at school, Have you checked the Alain Resnais thread (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=16076)? My thoughts are there.

[Mr Minio]

I read the thread. I have to watch more Resnais. :)

[Daniel M]

It's a film I want to watch, seeing as it seems to be highly rated by many on here. So far I have only seen Night and Fog from Resnais, for the short film tournament we had.

[bluedeed]

The lack of feedback kind of shocks me considering it's a highly regarded movie on here.

I'd respond thoroughly if I weren't so busy today. The film is a masterpiece in atmosphere and wholly engrossing, I feel sucked inside Resnais beautiful but troubled mind when I watch it. The man's still making movies today. He came out with a film in 2012, when he was 90 years old!

[mark f]

Resnais' longevity is incredible. Has anyone seen any films by Manoel de Oliveira? In the last 25 years, he's made 23 features, 9 shorts and 3 segments of features, including three last year. This December he'll turn 104.

[Mr Minio]

I haven't seen any, but Abraham's Valley is a movie I've wanted to see since a year or so.
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5. The Mirror
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I believe this one does not need any explanation.

[Daniel M]

I was meant to watch that film ages ago, but never got round to it for some reason. I have it ready to watch. I'm in the same situation with Stalker too, something is putting me off watching Tarkovskey, not in a particularly bad way but for long, thoughtful films I need to have the time and be in the mood :)

[HandyApe]

I've only seen the Mirror once, quite recently, and I loved it. I definitely need to watch it again soon.

[Guaporense]

I find it strange that people seem to usually like both The Mirror and Last Year in Marienbad, for me one is a super masterpiece and the other is quite a bad movie. (Tyler also had these two movies paired close together, here they are also http://mubi.com/lists/my-favorite-100-films number 5 and 6 respectively), though Tarkovsky apparently didn't like Resnais movies enough to include any in his favorites list.

[Mr Minio]

4. Shame
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Who'd have thought that would happen? Well, actually a lot of you. Look at my avatar. I've got Mr. Fassbender there, in case I change it in the future. I've seen Shame twice to make sure it wasn't just a temporary hype and the second time I loved it even more. I even cried. Fassbender was born to play Brandon, or should I say, be Brandon. His total commitment to the role is impressive, because there's no doubt he is talented, but the thing he did in Shame is beyond imagination. My favourite male performance of all time. Carrey Mulligan is great as well, even though overshadowed by Michael's glory, she still puts on a great role. Her version of Sinatra's classic is strangely enigmatic, slow and sad, which perfectly describes the relations between her and her brother, as well as their lives. I love the cinematography and the use of long take during the jogging and Brandon & Marianne walk scenes. The music is particulary powerful when juxtaposed to subway and club scenes. I adore Fassbender's face expressions. Finally such a glory since Maria Falconetti. And not to mumble anymore I adore everything about this movie. Now that I'm writing of it I want to see it again. Damn.

[BlueLion]

Shame is a great film, and one of the most painful I've ever watched. I thought it was going to be in your top 20, I'm actually surprised to see it this high.

[honeykid]

I was meant to watch that film ages ago, but never got round to it for some reason. I have it ready to watch. I'm in the same situation with Stalker too, something is putting me off watching Tarkovskey, not in a particularly bad way but for long, thoughtful films I need to have the time and be in the mood :)

Survival instincts? :D

[bluedeed]

4. Shame
http://i41.tinypic.com/51rmlf.jpg

Who'd have thought that would happen? Well, actually a lot of you. Look at my avatar. I've got Mr. Fassbender there, in case I change it in the future. I've seen Shame twice to make sure it wasn't just a temporary hype and the second time I loved it even more. I even cried. Fassbender was born to play Brandon, or should I say, be Brandon. His total commitment to the role is impressive, because there's no doubt he is talented, but the thing he did in Shame is beyond imagination. My favourite male performance of all time. Carrey Mulligan is great as well, even though overshadowed by Michael's glory, she still puts on a great role. Her version of Sinatra's classic is strangely enigmatic, slow and sad, which perfectly describes the relations between her and her brother, as well as their lives. I love the cinematography and the use of long take during the jogging and Brandon & Marianne walk scenes. The music is particulary powerful when juxtaposed to subway and club scenes. I adore Fassbender's face expressions. Finally such a glory since Maria Falconetti. And not to mumble anymore I adore everything about this movie. Now that I'm writing of it I want to see it again. Damn.


If I weren't so busy today I'd respond with disappointment, I think Paul Schrader's recent film The Canyons is a much better film in a similar subject area, and I think that film is really mediocre.

[Pussy Galore]

I don't care for the subject of the film, but I still liked it a lot.

[Mr Minio]

3. The Dust of Time
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I remember me crying constantly when watching the last Angelopoulos film The Dust of Time. Not only because the movie was extremely poignant and powerful, but also because it was the last Angelopoulos film before his unexcepted death. Moreover, it was the last film of him I watched as I'd already seen everything else by him at the time. As always with Angelopoulos we've got poetry at the screen, beautiful cinematography and touching Karaindrou music. I don't recommend watching it if you haven't seen any other film of this Greek maestro, though. For that Landscape in the Mist is a perfect choice. I watched it as the first Angelopoulos too myself and after the seance has ended I couldn't wait to watch the rest of his filmography.

[Mr Minio]

2. Werckmeister Harmonies
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Asociobendiful.

[jiraffejustin]

Wait...wait...wait...this isn't #1?!?!?!?!?!

EDIT: I peeked at your RYM page...and your new #1 is a bit odd, eh?

[mark f]

What? No #1?

[BlueLion]

Also, what the heck does "asociobendiful" even mean?

[Mr Minio]

Also, what the heck does "asociobendiful" even mean? From MoFo Random Glossary Term:

Asociobendiful - A made up word used to describe something so good that no actual word does it justice. (http://www.movieforums.com/community/glossary.php?glossaryid=70)

[The Gunslinger45]

You found a movie better then this? You have my complete attention sir...

[Mr Minio]

1. Messe Noire
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A masterpiece. A movie that made me realise how dumb I was thinking Werckmeister Harmonies can't be beaten and therefore that art has nothing more to offer. This short is the best thing I've ever seen in my life and it changed the way on how I perceive art as well as Werckmeister Harmonies, but unlike Tarr's magnum opus, this piece is but a few minutes long short. It's very deep and visually stimulating. If you'd like to see this beauty just send me Private Message and I will point you to the place where you can watch it, but beware! It can become your favourite film too as well.

[The Gunslinger45]

Well this movie has caught my interest

[Daniel M]

Can you link the IMDB for it?

[jiraffejustin]

I think if you just google it the imdb page pops up.

[Mr Minio]

I don't think the movie's got IMDB page. I didn't find it, anyway.

[Daniel M]

It's not this - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2060529/ - is it?

[Pussy Galore]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2060529/

is that it?

[Mr Minio]

Well, that's it, but the storyline is different.

[jiraffejustin]

Sounds like the imdb mafia did some editing on that. Same way they do with a lot of Turkish films. From what I understand this was supposed to be one of the first dada type films.

[Mr Minio]

It by no means was the first dada film, but it's the best one, if it classifies as dada. It's more surreal than dada, actually, but since the two terms often share same features, I'm not sure.

[HitchFan97]

Holy *****, I guess I should watch that then :D

Last Year at Marienbad is the highest film on your list I've watched, and as you can see it's figured into my own top ten as well.

[Sane]

When I read these top xxx lists the main thing I want is to find great movies I haven't seen. As your list contains about 175 of those I think it might be the best Top list ever ;)

[Mr Minio]

As your list contains about 175 of those I think it might be the best Top list ever ;) Wow, I'm flattered :blush:

[cricket]

Congrats on finishing your list! A lot of fascinating choices I'd like to see to try something different.