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TONGO
08-11-13, 04:25 PM
Christian Ponder is on the block! ;)

jiraffejustin
08-11-13, 05:20 PM
I would listen to offers on pretty much anybody on my team. The only truly untouchables on my squad are Jamaal Charles and Brandon Marshall.

TONGO
08-13-13, 10:55 PM
Well Peteys a douche in my eyes now. He offered me Josh Freeman & Percy Harvin for...........Jimmy Graham & Matthew Stafford. To say I Rejected Offer is an understatement.

Sleezy
08-13-13, 11:18 PM
I'm open to offers. Nobody on my team is untouchable.

rauldc14
08-16-13, 12:03 PM
too early to even think about trades

Sedai
08-16-13, 12:39 PM
Well Peteys a douche in my eyes now. He offered me Josh Freeman & Percy Harvin for...........Jimmy Graham & Matthew Stafford. To say I Rejected Offer is an understatement.


Zoinks! Yeah, that's a rough trade! I am hanging with Pete tonight - I will give him crap for it! ;)

Wait a sec - what was in the offer you sent him first. You KNOW you sent him something first, now don't you....

TONGO
08-16-13, 01:52 PM
Zoinks! Yeah, that's a rough trade! I am hanging with Pete tonight - I will give him crap for it! ;)

Wait a sec - what was in the offer you sent him first. You KNOW you sent him something first, now don't you....

I had sent him an offer of Matthew Stafford & Mike Williams for Josh Freeman & Vincent Jackson. I ended up cancelling it myself because I would be giving away too much, and he wouldnt have benefitted from it either since he'd just be taking a downgrade at WR and Bradys his QB.

Sedai
08-16-13, 02:19 PM
Pete laughed about it, he doesn't take it too seriously man. Not to worry!

Yoda
08-16-13, 02:23 PM
Don't forget to yell at him for the trophy pictures. :D

Sedai
08-16-13, 02:27 PM
Oh, will do! :D

Sleezy
08-16-13, 02:32 PM
I had sent him an offer of Matthew Stafford & Mike Williams for Josh Freeman & Vincent Jackson. I ended up cancelling it myself because I would be giving away too much, and he wouldnt have benefitted from it either since he'd just be taking a downgrade at WR and Bradys his QB.

Not a bad trade right there, actually. I'd still place Matt Stafford above Josh Freeman, but the Lions could be in all kinds of trouble this year and Freeman really made use of V-Jax and Mike Williams last year. In fact, I think Williams topped Jackson in TDs, did he not?

TONGO
08-16-13, 02:35 PM
Not a bad trade right there, actually. I'd still place Matt Stafford above Josh Freeman, but the Lions could be in all kinds of trouble this year and Freeman really made use of V-Jax and Mike Williams last year. In fact, I think Williams topped Jackson in TDs, did he not?

Williams had 9 and VJ 8. They werent too far off from each other in overall points either as VJ gets all the coverage, so Williams benefits.

Yoda
08-16-13, 02:42 PM
I dunno, I think it's pretty bad: Stafford's floor, even in a disastrous year for Detroit, is a lot higher than Freeman's. And his ceiling is way, way, higher. Two years ago he doubled his point total.

Re: points. Not sure what would make you say that, as Williams had 9 fewer receptions, 400 fewer yeards, and just one more TD. In our league that's almost a 40-point difference. So even swapping receivers straight up would be pretty bad. But it's the QBs that really tilt things.

Sedai
08-16-13, 02:45 PM
Pete said his offer was clearly a joke, btw...

TONGO
08-20-13, 01:27 AM
Making a big trade offer. Wont go into particulars, but its big, I will say that its so I can get a connector, QB to WR tandem. I love how both players points splash across the screen at the same time :)

TONGO
08-20-13, 01:56 AM
and it is done.

Me and Sean have a deal. He offered Drew Brees & Anquan Boldin for Matthew Stafford & Mike Williams. Figure Doug Martin should quell any homer point gained fantasy earnings :)

I got Drew Brees to Jimmy Graham baby! Wahoo!!!

http://sportsinvasion.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Jimmy-Graham-Drew-Brees.jpg

Sedai
08-20-13, 10:05 AM
Someone got fleeced in that deal...

Also Tongs...Looks like Bell hurt his foot again. He should be OK, but I would be a tad concerned, as this is like the 2nd or 3rd injury of this type in a relatively short time. Grab that cuff!

Yoda
08-20-13, 10:09 AM
Yeah, nice deal. I guess he thinks Williams is gonna bust out or something? Or that Stafford will be roughly on par with Brees. Dunno.

I don't think there's much extra value (or harm) in "connections." I know most people stay away from them, actually. It's like playing a QB and a DEF against each other: it's mostly psychological.

TONGO
08-20-13, 10:45 AM
Yeah LeVean Bell may be out before week 1 starts... Not much I can do as Bells handcuff Jonathan Dwyer is on a Steelers fans roster (Dionne). Maybe the Raiders will split time between McFadden and Marcel Reece?! Maybe, hopefully...

I had offered Sean - Matthew Stafford, Antonio Gates, and Marcel Reece (Sean has McFadden) for Drew Brees. He countered with Brees/Boldin for Stafford/Mike Williams.

TONGO
08-20-13, 02:29 PM
This trades bugging me, and I should be excited about it. I sent Sean a PM to make sure hes ok with everything.

seanc
08-20-13, 02:31 PM
It was a slight risk but I needed to upgrade my skill positions. We will see.

TONGO
08-20-13, 03:12 PM
Hm! I sent a PM to Sean. Want to do this with a clear conscience or not at all. Sean may or may not be new at FFB, I dont know.

TONGO
08-20-13, 08:56 PM
I spoke with Sean in detail in PM so I think this should be a good deal.

Might have a deal with Fiscal or might not. Offering LeVeon Bell & Antonio Gates for Chris Johnson.

jiraffejustin
08-20-13, 09:32 PM
I spoke with Sean in detail in PM so I think this should be a good deal.

Might have a deal with Fiscal or might not. Offering LeVeon Bell & Antonio Gates for Chris Johnson.

Holy cow. We might as well just concede the season to you. :eek:

Fiscal
08-20-13, 09:40 PM
Tongs, I can't do the Bell and Gates for CJ2K trade. Bell is a banged up rookie and I'm rather high on Olsen as a solid TE this year. Titans have a much improved O line, so I'm going to stick with him.

TONGO
08-20-13, 10:01 PM
Tongs, I can't do the Bell and Gates for CJ2K trade. Bell is a banged up rookie and I'm rather high on Olsen as a solid TE this year. Titans have a much improved O line, so I'm going to stick with him.

Allrighty man. :up:

rauldc14
08-21-13, 12:01 AM
Easy breezy to get Brees apparently. Wish I could have gotten the memo.

TONGO
08-21-13, 09:20 PM
Fiscal dodged the bullet on that one as LeVean Bell is out anywhere from 6-8 weeks or indefinitely depending who is saying it.

Got an offer to Dexter, Antonio Gates for Ahmad Bradshaw.

TONGO
08-21-13, 10:46 PM
Dexters a negatory so I find myself, yet again, in the "Quest to fill a RB2 slot in a 14 team league!"

:sick:

Yoda
08-21-13, 10:48 PM
In a 14 team league that's a pretty common thing; it's hardly a death knell, especially if you're strong elsewhere.

TONGO
08-21-13, 10:53 PM
Im kinda wondering how high or low I can sell on Antonio Gates. Now hes healthy, and San Diegos WR corps is flattened. He may very well be the #1 target there. Even then an owner would be loathe to drop their RB2 for a TE.

Im gonna resend an offer I made to Sedai offering Gates for Ivory, and if that doesnt pan out Ill just have to make do.

Sleezy
08-22-13, 03:49 PM
Adrian Peterson is on the block.

I'll likely just keep him, but I was curious what offers he might bring. Fair warning, though: expect to offer a haul.

jiraffejustin
08-22-13, 04:13 PM
Tongo, I sent you an offer. Witten for both Gates and Marcel Reece.

TONGO
08-22-13, 05:18 PM
Sorry JJ, the last thing I need is a Tight End.

jiraffejustin
08-22-13, 05:47 PM
It's all good, I was just offering him to you as a flex play. With half-ppr, I figured he is good enough for the role, but I am fine with keeping him as well.

TONGO
08-22-13, 06:51 PM
Well, why not.

Offering Sleezy Drew Brees & Jimmy Graham for Adrian Peterson. Would have been cool to have that sexy combo, but truth be told Im sick of the quest for a starting RB. Too many seasons of it AUGH!

Ill make do at QB. Thats if he says yes.

Yoda
08-22-13, 07:52 PM
Geez, that's pretty over the top, dude. Especially considering you were just talking about how much you wanted a "connection."

TONGO
08-22-13, 08:07 PM
I did, and do. In the meantime I lost a starting RB, have 2 strong starting TEs so I can spare one, and would rather deal with a QB slot than a RB2 slot problem.

If I do get Peterson I wouldnt trade him away. Unless someone would pay me more than I did for him - that would be a QB, WR, and RB and all 3 be starter level.

TONGO
08-22-13, 09:05 PM
Just decided to cancel the offer.


On a more lower end scale, maybe wiser too Idk, Im offering Fiscal - Antonio Gates for Rashard Mendenhall again.

TONGO
08-22-13, 10:24 PM
Decided to resend the offer but Im asking for Carson Palmer too this time. I doubt Sleezy will give up AP for the Brees/Graham package since hes got Andrew Luck, but yanevahkno......

rauldc14
08-22-13, 10:42 PM
Decided to resend the offer but Im asking for Carson Palmer too this time. I doubt Sleezy will give up AP for the Brees/Graham package since hes got Andrew Luck, but yanevahkno......

? Really?

rauldc14
08-22-13, 10:51 PM
That trade makes no sense. Sometimes I swear you trade just to trade. AP is the man but that's even an overpay.

TONGO
08-22-13, 10:58 PM
That trade makes no sense. Sometimes I swear you trade just to trade. AP is the man but that's even an overpay.

I dont trade just to trade. I sometimes trade 2 or 3 trades ahead, but I'd say 95% of the time Ive a clear goal. I admit to some whimsical trades but this isnt one of them. Im guessing he'll say no.

What is Adrian Peterson worth in a trade? What should he fetch? Two 2nd rounders may be too much, but it may not. I even asked Dexters advice on this offer cause it is so heavy.

Yoda
08-23-13, 12:00 AM
I don't know if you trade just to trade, but the reasons you give for each trade seem to have a very short shelf life.

Anyway, it's a huge overpay, especially since the season hasn't even started and you don't even know what you have yet.

TONGO
08-23-13, 12:10 AM
Fine I cancelled it.

rauldc14
08-23-13, 12:12 AM
I don't care what you do. I just think you'd be cutting yourself a terrible deal, even with getting the best in the league.

TONGO
08-23-13, 01:23 AM
GrumbleMumbleGrumbleMumbleGrrrr! ;)

Yeah I can see your point. It wouldve been cool to have the 2 best RBs in the NFL, but would I have gone farther? Would I really have a better chance of winning the league? The numbers say no, but I still think its debatable.

An RB slot is the most valuable of all in the league. If a team is absolute strongest there, and Id still have 3 great recievers in Fitz, Boldin, and Gates. Heck I think Davonne Bess may be starter worthy this season, and thats one cheap swing filler.

Mind you I dont think Sleezy wouldve even taken the deal because he'd lose his RB1 slot, the absolute most difficult spot to replace. I am curious if he wouldve accepted.

I nixed it because of the general underlying negative reaction, but on investigation....whoa damn I would be underselling Drew Brees! :eek: Number one overall fantasy point earner last year, and second most in 2011. I know Carson Palmer just cannot touch that figure. So thanks for the heads-up guys.

Still hope Fiscal parts with Mendenhall for Gates. I think its a fair deal. Its not like Rashard ever lit the world on fire in Pittsburgh, and Gates has the pieces in place for a possible career year. Heck, if Favre could have the best season of his career the year before he retired then why couldnt Gates now? If he says no Ill play waiver wire rider looking for a gem. Again. MumbleGrumbleMumbleGrumble...

Sleezy
08-23-13, 04:36 AM
I wouldn't have taken the trade. As much value as there is in Drew Brees and Jimmy Graham, like TONGO said, I'm not interested in trying to replace my RB1. In fact, a strong RB replacement would almost certainly need to be part of the deal.

Yoda
08-23-13, 09:09 AM
Well then.

TONGO
08-23-13, 03:34 PM
Still waiting on Fiscal regarding the Gates for Mendenhall offer.

In the meanwhile sent Yoda an offer of Antonio Gates for Eddie Lacy. Figured theres a chance just because he has Ronnie Hillman on the bench.

rauldc14
08-23-13, 03:36 PM
I wouldn't have taken the trade. As much value as there is in Drew Brees and Jimmy Graham, like TONGO said, I'm not interested in trying to replace my RB1. In fact, a strong RB replacement would almost certainly need to be part of the deal.

You could easily trade away graham and Bree's to get more back.

rauldc14
08-23-13, 03:39 PM
Well then.

To me if I have AP and was offered that, it's a no brainer.

TONGO
08-23-13, 03:42 PM
Yoda said no cause he has 3 TEs. Thats a pretty good reason to say no :facepalm:

Cmon Fiscal..... I would be ok with it if he says no. Mendenhall wasnt "all that" at any point in time. Just not convinced of his upside potential, and doubt he will have better protection than he did in Pittsburgh. Im just in need.

Yoda
08-23-13, 03:49 PM
I don't deny that you should be shopping for a second RB, but I wouldn't assume it's an absolute must before the games have even started. This is a 14-team league: everyone has holes. And it's football, not baseball, which means all stats go into a common pool of points, which means you can tolerate holes if you're running up the score at the other positions. I made it to MoFo Bowl II weak all year at RB because I was strong everywhere else.

There's certainly an argument to be made for inflating positional value when you're sure you need it, but at this point, until the games start (and not even then), we don't really know what we need or (more importantly) how badly we need it. The goal is the most points, not the most positionally balanced lineup. That only matters insofar as it leads to those points.

Sedai
08-23-13, 05:50 PM
Also, when you say something like Drew Brees being the number one guy in fantasy points-wise, you also need to consider that fact relative to the other top performers at his position, then divide the difference by the number of games played, and consider just how much that means for the QB slot (not much).

Obviously, if you run guys like Palmer against him, the difference will be greater, but no one starts Palmer, or at least they shouldn't; he is a QB2 for sure. But if you look at a 4th-5th round QB, it just isn't that big of a difference when split across the scoring.

TONGO
08-24-13, 12:50 PM
Yeah Dexter got back to me on that Brees/Graham for AP offer too and said that was way too much to offer. So its unanimous.

Fiscal finally said no to the Gates offer for Mendenhall. I am in a waiting pattern now as trade solutions pre-week 1 are exhausted.

LeVean Bell may be back Week 6, they say. Who knows! Ill keep him on my bench as there really isnt anyone to urgently grab.

GreenEyed Vixen
08-30-13, 10:23 PM
I have an AWESOME team this year, in both leagues...woohoooooo...lets play some football

TONGO
09-13-13, 10:50 PM
Making another play for Adrian Peterson. Offering the Sleezster - Larry Fitzgerald, Joique Bell, and Antonio Gates.

Sleezy
09-14-13, 09:44 AM
Making another play for Adrian Peterson. Offering the Sleezster - Larry Fitzgerald, Joique Bell, and Antonio Gates.

Sorry, not possible.

Powdered Water
09-14-13, 12:37 PM
Anyone who would trade Adrian Peterson would be like, a crazy person.

Yoda
09-14-13, 12:46 PM
I'd be a crazy person if someone bowled me over. Especially in a 14-team league, where depth matters more.

Powdered Water
09-14-13, 12:57 PM
Well sure. I'd cash a million dollar check if somebody gave it to me.

jiraffejustin
09-14-13, 01:00 PM
In a ten team league with my friends, I traded Adrian Peterson for Reggie Bush and A.J. Green. After week one I traded Bush for Trent Richardson. So I turned Adrian Peterson into Trent Richardson and A.J. Green. Which I think was a good deal for me to get a high end RB1 and WR1 for the highest of RB1s.

seanc
09-14-13, 01:08 PM
In a ten team league with my friends, I traded Adrian Peterson for Reggie Bush and A.J. Green. After week one I traded Bush for Trent Richardson. So I turned Adrian Peterson into Trent Richardson and A.J. Green. Which I think was a good deal for me to get a high end RB1 and WR1 for the highest of RB1s.
I like it. It will be interesting to see what kind of year Bush has in Detroit. I hate Cleveland's offense. Either way I would do that deal though.

TONGO
09-14-13, 01:24 PM
Just sent to Justin Jiraffe Jamaals an offer of Antonio Gates & Bilal Powell for Pierre Garcon.

TONGO
09-14-13, 01:39 PM
Decided to send JJ two more offers for Garcon. Joique Bell & Gates and Knowshon Moreno & Gates. He can pick which of 3 he likes the best.

TONGO
09-15-13, 12:50 AM
No to all 3. I sent Petey the same three offers for Desean, and :nope: :nope: :nope:.

Thats allright though. I feel like Im in terrific shape so early in the season. If J Bell maintains a above average fantasy point pace, and Moreno has the big game hes capable of people will likely be more interested then. Just hope I slot the right one when they do go off...

Sleezy
09-15-13, 07:41 PM
My team is crumbling in spectacular fashion. :laugh:

PW offered me Dez Bryant and C.J. Spiller for Adrian Peterson and Golden Tate. I've decided to take it.

Powdered Water
09-15-13, 08:19 PM
No sh*t? Nice! Thanks!

TONGO
09-15-13, 08:38 PM
Im in shock.

Good nab PW. Hopefully Ill join you in the playoffs.

Sleezy
09-15-13, 09:12 PM
No sh*t? Nice! Thanks!

Yeah, why not? I've decided to just have fun with it and not preside over my team like some bomb maker handling plutonium. I doubt I'll make it into the playoffs anyway, so party on!

Powdered Water
09-15-13, 09:22 PM
Yeah, why not? I've decided to just have fun with it and not preside over my team like some bomb maker handling plutonium. I doubt I'll make it into the playoffs anyway, so party on!

Hey, I hear ya. I like Spiller, a lot, actually. But, I really wanted Tate, to be honest and this seemed like a pretty fair way to get him.

TONGO
09-16-13, 01:10 PM
If anyone is weak on their RB slots and/or tight end slots, Im putting Antonio Gates, Bilal Powell, and LeVeon Bell on the trading block.

Im looking to unload all three for one strong WR.

Yoda
09-16-13, 01:12 PM
Those lots-of-okay-guys-for-one-stud offers are pretty few and far between. It's more plausible in a deeper league, to be sure, but a team's gotta have multiple, glaring holes that'll lead all the guys to start immediately for it to make sense, which is pretty rare.

TONGO
09-16-13, 01:15 PM
Yep. Its a plain offer of depth if someones got a an extra WR thats a sure starter.

rauldc14
09-16-13, 01:40 PM
Hey, I hear ya. I like Spiller, a lot, actually. But, I really wanted Tate, to be honest and this seemed like a pretty fair way to get him.

Tate is so good.....at cheating. Sorry I'm a bitter packer fan.

LTIZZY
09-16-13, 06:42 PM
This is the saddest day to me folks! Who the **** doesn't trade Peterson to LT? You guys suck LOLO!

Sleezy
09-16-13, 06:56 PM
This is the saddest day to me folks! Who the **** doesn't trade Peterson to LT? You guys suck LOLO!

Sorry! :modest:

donniedarko
09-16-13, 09:31 PM
In my league I've been having so many trade offers for me Seattle Defense, I've denied all, even though I haven't even played them yet lol, have the Bengals in now. Also I remembered how good Eddie Royal is yesterday, so I'm trying to claim him, and drop Gresham.

TONGO
09-16-13, 10:20 PM
I got Eddie Royal in this league and will be starting him here on out. Especially with that sick stinger Malcom Floyd took. You should try and get into this league Donnie!

Yoda
09-17-13, 01:46 PM
I'm loaded at WR (Welker, Cobb, Hilton), and I'm willing to consider dealing some of that for a solid TE, RB, or both. Just FYI.

Also willing to consider moving Aaron Rodgers (he of the 480 yards passing on Sunday) if it plugs a couple of holes for me at once, particularly if I get a good replacement at QB for him.

DexterRiley
09-17-13, 02:10 PM
Alrighty then pair of trades consummated.

first up saying bubbye to Ahmad Bradshaw who i like a lot, but his chronic foot problems, not so much, in return for future star Giovanni Bernard.

Which prompted a pm exchange with Sleezemeister who has the law firm.

In the end, i traded the other handcuff Fred Jackson along with Stallion out of the gate TE Bennett for the currently ailing but hopefully not too too much longer Roddy White.

jiraffejustin
09-17-13, 02:47 PM
Yeah, I sent Bernard who I like because I need someone to step up now in case Reggie can't play this week. I sent that trade offer before his game Monday night, I might have been persuaded to hold on to him if I had waited, but as it is I think Bradshaw should provide more instant value for me. Bernard has more value longterm most likely though.

Yoda
09-18-13, 11:55 AM
Is nobody checking their trade offers? I sent one in the preseason that sat for over a week, and another after week one that sat there for days until I canceled it. Just sent out a few more yesterday, so we'll see if anyone notices those.

If it helps, there's an option in everyone's Team Settings to get an email whenever you receive an offer.

7thson
09-18-13, 01:17 PM
Yes I got the one you sent me, seriously pondering it, will make a decision very soon.

Yoda
09-18-13, 01:19 PM
Word (open to tweaks, too, if you like the general idea but want to rebalance a little).

No worries though, you've only had it for half a day. I was mostly grousing about the earlier stuff. Being 0-2 makes you cranky and impatient, it turns out.

7thson
09-18-13, 01:30 PM
Well you know my weak spot, but I can be unbiased for a moment and step back - I think Welker is going to keep getting numbers, of course Foster will as well and probably more overall, but key games is what I am thinking about suddenly and looking at the Broncos schedule it just might work out for me. It will definitely throw my bye week into more of a tailspin...

TONGO
09-18-13, 01:33 PM
Is nobody checking their trade offers? I sent one in the preseason that sat for over a week, and another after week one that sat there for days until I canceled it. Just sent out a few more yesterday, so we'll see if anyone notices those.

If it helps, there's an option in everyone's Team Settings to get an email whenever you receive an offer.


Man I hear you on that. I havent noticed it because Ive sent fewer offers out than normal. Probably wont be sending any out in foreseeable future with my good start.

Yeah I hope everyones still involved and nobodys gone absent. There are alot of folks that would want in the MoFo league badly, and be involved throughout the season.

7thson
09-18-13, 01:46 PM
I accepted your offer Yods - at least the denver games will be even more exciting to watch ;) - well if it goes through

Yoda
09-18-13, 01:47 PM
Well you know my weak spot, but I can be unbiased for a moment and step back - I think Welker is going to keep getting numbers, of course Foster will as well and probably more overall, but key games is what I am thinking about suddenly and looking at the Broncos schedule it just might work out for me. It will definitely throw my bye week into more of a tailspin...
Heh. Yeah, I'd be lying if I didn't notice the Broncos thing. :laugh: But that's mainly just why I threw in Hillman. Clearly, Welker's a #1 WR again with all these red zone looks (I think he was an absolute steal where I got him, especially in PPR), and with Foster there are some not-insignificant injury concerns. Especially with Tate getting a dozen touches a game and doing so much with them.

You're mostly Broncos now. But like the Pats a few years ago or the Pack this year, it might be one of those teams that puts up so many points that banking on them entirely is a perfectly viable strategy.

Of course, suddenly I need Hilton to have the breakout year he's capable of, so I feel a lot less fuzzy than I did when both my WRs were studs. But given the injuries, I'd rather worry about that than whether or not I'll even have two playable guys at RB.

TONGO
09-18-13, 02:28 PM
I immediately thought Dionne was gonna regret this one, but Tate is taking on alot more work consistently, and Im sure its to further Arians time on the field lessening chances of injury. The monster games though may be behind Arian Foster. Maybe.

Either way Yodas stacked with RBs now. I think 11AM may go to the playoffs and the line pointing to how it happened will start with this trade. One big trade can definitely do it for a squad, good or bad. Im sure accepting the offer for Brees & Bolding giving up Stafford & Mike Williams is that trade for me.

Playoffs may look like a reunion of all the old school MoFos, but those Jamaales, whoooooa!

DexterRiley
09-18-13, 07:14 PM
Not sure if Stacked at RB is quite accurate. MJD needs to recover and be a force. That isnt automatic i dont think.

If Chris can secure a legit TE1 though, look out.

Oh and Jamales, no im not dumping Richardson, Ridly and Gronk for pennies on the dollar.

Yoda
09-18-13, 07:17 PM
Yeah, I sure don't feel stacked. Foster's still very good but I think it's a given he'll be something less than a total workhorse going forward (which is the only reason I was able to get him, even for a top WR, I think), and MJD is a bit of a question mark right now. I think it's more likely than not that both will be top 10 backs going forward, but it's far from a sure thing. I bought low on MJD a couple of years ago and it worked out well, though, so I have faith. But it does, in fact, require a little faith right now.

As for TE...Myers seems solid and Cook could breakout, but that involves some speculation, too. So I'm cautiously optimistic one or both of them will be good enough to be an every week guy. Guess we'll find out. I can't afford too many early season losses, though.

TONGO
09-22-13, 02:53 PM
Had an offer this week from Petey for Knowshon Moreno. He was offering Josh Freeman, Marlon Brown, and Ronnie Brown.

http://www.vancouverobserver.com/sites/vancouverobserver.com/files/resize/images/blog/body/help%20me-500x288.jpg

Sleezy
09-23-13, 01:13 PM
PW did me a semi-solid and accepted Eli Manning for Philip Rivers. Even though Rivers is his QB2, I still think it's a more favorable trade for me, considering how strong Rivers' play has been so far. He threw a pretty pedestrian game this week, but that's to be expected now and then. I'm hoping the overall numbers trend stays up in the QB1 range.

By comparison, Eli Manning (who is typically inconsistent and frustrating anyway) has been absolutely nonexistent as a fantasy presence. I was hoping he'd be a high risk-high reward sort of player, particularly with the support staff there in New York. But it seems they just can't get it going and, at 1-2 crawling out of last place, I'm not interested in waiting until they do. :)

Viva la Felipe de Rios!

Sedai
09-24-13, 11:01 AM
Had to decline, Yods! Not a big Foster fan, and AJ Green is the man! It will take a golden offer to get him off my squad!

Yoda
09-24-13, 11:09 AM
No worries. At this point I just need to shake things up, so I'm sending out some pretty big offers. But if the value isn't there, and I have to stand pat, so be it. I'm super happy with my talent level, even if the production hasn't been there for a host of reasons (bad timing, injuries, or both).

TONGO
09-24-13, 02:03 PM
Nate Burleson broke his arm in two places in a car accident last night. Was gonna start him this week since a one-legged Fitz is going up against Revis Island sunday. Made a trade offer to Dionne offering Knowshon Moreno for Ryan Broyles.

DexterRiley
09-24-13, 02:40 PM
Had an offer this week from Petey for Knowshon Moreno. He was offering Josh Freeman, Marlon Brown, and Ronnie Brown.

http://www.vancouverobserver.com/sites/vancouverobserver.com/files/resize/images/blog/body/help%20me-500x288.jpg

Made a trade offer to Dionne offering Knowshon Moreno for Ryan Broyles.

What a difference a week makes eh.

jiraffejustin
09-24-13, 02:43 PM
yeah, at the beginning of last week Jesse was in a little better shape...oh you mean with football, right?

Yoda
09-24-13, 02:43 PM
They should just rename Fantasy Football "Fantasy Let's See Who Can Overreact The Least Over The Course Of A Season."

TONGO
09-24-13, 02:48 PM
What a difference a week makes eh.

Actually I decided to cancel the offer cause I realized I was selling Moreno way too short. Sent an offer to seanc, Moreno for Mike Williams, instead.

Yoda
09-24-13, 03:41 PM
This honestly isn't aimed at anyone in particular, but I don't get why people who reject a trade would say something like "X isn't playing as well as he usually does right now," when that discount is clearly being built into the proposal. 99% of the time the underperforming guy wouldn't be offered at all if he were producing normally.

DexterRiley
09-24-13, 04:06 PM
This honestly isn't aimed at anyone in particular, but I don't get why people who reject a trade would say something like "X isn't playing as well as he usually does right now," when that discount is clearly being built into the proposal. 99% of the time the underperforming guy wouldn't be offered at all if he were producing normally.

how much are u regretting exchanging welker for Foster right now?

TONGO
09-24-13, 09:03 PM
I got two offers out looking for a good WR. Sent seanc Knowshon Moreno for Mike Williams, and to Dionne for Ryan Broyles. Whoever says yes first gets Moreno.

Unless someone out there sends me a good offer first of course. ;)

TONGO
09-24-13, 09:05 PM
Oh my god PW!! You gave up Jordy Nelson?!

Dude.

Powdered Water
09-24-13, 09:05 PM
Everyone is available.

TONGO
09-24-13, 09:17 PM
Everyone is available.

Dude!

Actually with my track record I cant point at anyone for supposed bad trade decisions.

rauldc14
09-24-13, 11:37 PM
Dude!

Actually with my track record I cant point at anyone for supposed bad trade decisions.

I made a bad homer decision. I think Nelson will be a top 10 wr, but Morris prob a top 10 back. I'm going to need another back, so I offered Julio and Amendola for foster.

Yoda
09-24-13, 11:43 PM
how much are u regretting exchanging welker for Foster right now?

After one week? Not yet. Time will tell. At this point I'd rather have that crazy high upside.

rauldc14
09-24-13, 11:47 PM
So I take it no trade, yoda?

Yoda
09-25-13, 12:07 AM
Hadn't seen your offer when I posted that, but yeah, had to reject. I think it's totally reasonable, but I'd have a huge hole at RB next week with Lacy on Bye, and at 0-3 I don't have the luxury of that sort of risk.

DexterRiley
09-25-13, 12:42 PM
Somewhere over Dwayne Bowe is now Tongs headache.

Knowshon Moreno and Santonio Holmes comen the other way.

TONGO
09-25-13, 12:46 PM
I got Stephen Hill so I didnt want 2 Jets receivers, and Im surprisingly flush on RBs. So I hope Bowe gets it together.

DexterRiley
09-25-13, 12:49 PM
yeah im sure he will. I just didnt want to see him going off while on my bench, and at same time hes really hard to trust.

Moreno is a depth play. 14 team league, my thought is its a lot easier snaggen bye week replacement worthy Wideouts than RB's.

TONGO
09-25-13, 04:41 PM
Moreno's solid, but may be supplanted by Ronnie Hillman before seasons end so keep your eyes open for RBs still. Denver really wants Hillman to be their #1 guy, he's faltered when given opportunity, but last sunday he finally emerged and with a reduced touch count. That's another Moreno minus is he splits time with Hillman and Monte "Why am I here?" Ball.

I think Dwayne Bowe and Alex Smith will eventually get it together. I'm gonna play Bowe this week over Fitzgerald only because Fitzs' mobility is noticeably hindered and he's going up against Revis. If Fitz still outperforms Bowe, I will spit on Bowe, and then have to wipe my monitor off. :|

jiraffejustin
09-25-13, 04:47 PM
Be prepared to spit on Bowe, he doesn't provide a whole lot of value with Alex Smith as his QB. Not because Alex Smith is terrible (he's not,) but because Alex Smith has a weak arm and won't allow anybody to be a deep threat. He loves checking it down and throwing short routes, where Bowe would get his work done mainly in the intermediate range. Fitz has been used in the slot more this year than he has in the past, which may change the way he is dealt with by Revis. In fact, when he is in the slot Revis might not cover him at all, that responsibility may belong to someone else.

TONGO
09-25-13, 05:23 PM
Hmmmm! Think you may be right. Thank you sir. :)

rauldc14
09-26-13, 08:59 PM
I need an RB and I can package Julio and Amendola to get one.

Powdered Water
09-26-13, 11:53 PM
I got running backs. :)

EDIT: HAHA!!! Not that I really know how to use them. If you know what I mean? Eh?

rauldc14
09-27-13, 12:12 AM
I'll trade u jordy and Finley for Morris and Austin.

Powdered Water
09-27-13, 12:18 AM
Either I'm on crack, or I already made a deal just like that earlier in the week.

rauldc14
09-29-13, 01:40 PM
After this week, calling RBs to my team.

TONGO
10-02-13, 02:10 AM
I'm not open to trading now. Unless I start falling flat on my face of course, but I think I got a piece of fierce business.

TONGO
10-12-13, 12:33 PM
^^^^^^^^^^ Even though my post was the last one in this thread, for the record, its been a looooooooong dang time since I posted that. Were talking months! :yup: Anyway Ive been in talks for a top tier player, and hopefully a good resolution comes today.

TONGO
10-12-13, 02:14 PM
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/1218/nfl_a_peterson_wm_600.jpg

Just wanted to say on record that me nor PW Chris were trading due to Petersons recent tragedy. We were talking a trade before that all developed. I wanted the #1 overall in the draft guy, and he needed depth. If I didnt have Antonio Gates theres no way I wouldve traded Graham.

If Doug Martin doesnt get it together tomorrow vs the weak Philly run D, then his ass will be on pine, and Pierre Thomas will get the slot. So there Muscle Hamster! hmph

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/002/774/729/hi-res-156659476_crop_650x440.jpg?1353705573

Yoda
10-12-13, 02:17 PM
Ya'll realize that's not going through in time for this week, right?

TONGO
10-12-13, 02:25 PM
Oh yeah I know that. I think PW does too.

Yoda
10-12-13, 02:26 PM
I'd make sure, to be safe. The trade review always begins the day after a trade is accepted (for obvious reasons), and it's been this way literally the entire time this league has existed, but it still catches someone off guard every year.

TONGO
10-12-13, 02:46 PM
Ooooooh crap. Next week is the Saints Bye week! I dont know if PW knew that one. Ill send him another pm and see if he wants to still do this.

TONGO
10-12-13, 06:12 PM
Still waiting to hear back from Chris PW. I sent a PM saying I would go along with whatever he decides.

TONGO
10-12-13, 10:20 PM
Just heard back from PW and hes fine with everything. So I guess its all good in the hood. :up:

Powdered Water
10-13-13, 12:41 AM
Dude, I'm 1-4. It really doesn't matter what I do at this point.

TONGO
10-13-13, 01:13 AM
This may seem a strange unnecessary swap, but my RB depth might have been illusionary. Doug Martins underperformed horribly fantasy points wise, Joique Bell & Pierre Thomas #'s run hot or cold, Bilal's NYJs starter though Goodson & Ivory nip at his heels, and LeVeon Bells played one game.

Jimmy Grahams putting up Megatron level numbers, and consistently. After the Bye I think he will stay strong. Outperform All Day by seasons end? I dont think so, but Grahams right now averaging 22.76 points a game to APs 21.20. I dont think either of us will be hurt by this swap.

Ill miss that cool Brees to Graham connector, but then I remember who I got. The best running back in the NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE. :)

TONGO
10-13-13, 03:44 PM
Offering Petey Ryan Fitzpatrick for Josh Freeman. Next week Brees is on his Bye, and Vikes have a nicer matchup than Titans.

TONGO
10-14-13, 11:24 PM
^^^^ Upped my ante to Ryan Fitzpatrick & Nate Washington for Josh Freeman. Waited at least a full 24 hrs, no response whatsoever, and I sent an email even. I cancelled it. Figured he was seeing if Freeman wasnt starting sunday and if not he wouldve accepted it quick.

Yoda
10-15-13, 10:57 AM
So, a potentially interesting trade offer to all of you high-flying teams: Randall Cobb. Looks like he'll miss most of the fantasy regular season, but should be available late and in the playoffs. Since this is head-to-head, that makes him a huge potential x-factor for any team that's cruising to a playoff berth already and wants to field the best possible team in the postseason.

My team, on the other hand, needs to win now just to get in. So if someone's looking to solidify their playoff roster, lemme know, because he might be able to get got.

TONGO
10-15-13, 12:36 PM
I would be interested in Cobb. Youre RB flush though and thats where Im flush at. We will continue this in PM land sir.

TONGO
10-15-13, 12:43 PM
GAH! I just looked at your roster again and cant find a fit. Dammit Yoda of all times why'd you have to finally be so non-RB needy!

Yoda
10-15-13, 12:50 PM
Yeah, if anything, it'd make sense for me to deal an RB, especially with MJD looking good again and the Jacksonville offense really opening up with Blackmon back. Maybe Cobb and an RB, for a top WR or something, then.

rauldc14
10-15-13, 02:02 PM
Ill trade you Julio Jones, oh wait, I can't do that.

TONGO
10-15-13, 04:45 PM
Great offer you sent me Rauld. Jordan Cameron was very tempting, and I may regret not trading you LeVeon Bell. Im just banking on Pittsburghs "new big thang" being legit.

rauldc14
10-15-13, 05:34 PM
Eh, no biggie. Just know I will need a serviceable back here. I'm literally playing 2 men down right now.

7thson
10-15-13, 05:45 PM
P. Manning up for trade - serious offers only please ;)

TONGO
10-15-13, 05:51 PM
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: Stunned.

That is the one guy I would trade away Drew Brees for.

7thson
10-15-13, 05:53 PM
I need a RB or two - QB for QB wont do it.

jiraffejustin
10-15-13, 05:58 PM
I'd give you Reggie Bush for Peyton.

rauldc14
10-15-13, 06:02 PM
Donald brown for Peyton manning and my 1st round pick in next years draft.

7thson
10-15-13, 06:04 PM
I'd give you Reggie Bush for Peyton.

ummmm no, but ty

jiraffejustin
10-15-13, 06:10 PM
ummmm no, but ty

Worth a shot. I wasn't going to break my team for him though.

7thson
10-15-13, 06:12 PM
all good

7thson
10-16-13, 10:05 AM
Guess I will play it out another week and see how it goes. Cant really complain, but one injury and I am screwed.

Yoda
10-16-13, 10:13 AM
Sent you a big offer yesterday. Have a peek.

Sedai
10-16-13, 11:28 AM
I seem to have a glut of WR - Looking for a solid RB2 in trade. Willing to move Wallace, Nicks, Randle (Top 4 Fantasy WR in past 2 games), and/or Jones.

TONGO
10-16-13, 11:54 AM
I seem to have a glut of WR - Looking for a solid RB2 in trade. Willing to move Wallace, Nicks, Randle (Top 4 Fantasy WR in past 2 games), and/or Jones.

Im flush at RB and need a WR. Hopefully we can work something out.

TONGO
10-16-13, 05:07 PM
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/New+York+Jets+v+Miami+Dolphins+KOmm6D_3w7Sl.jpg

Got a nice smaller end deal done with Sedai. I like them smaller end deals. Gave him Joique Bell for Brian Hartline. Up till past couple weeks Joique has produced as much as Reggie Bush (alongside him and when Bush has been out). Miamis passing game is laughable. At least I know Hartline will get targets, and its been a rough road with Anquan Boldin lately.

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/0909/bell_joique_g_mp_576.jpg

Sedai
10-16-13, 05:17 PM
I think that shores up both our depth issues at the respective positions!

Sedai
10-17-13, 09:52 AM
Continuing my rebuilding effort, I have traded Hakeem Nicks for Steven Ridley.

That should shore up the ridiculously weak depth in my RB section...

TONGO
10-19-13, 01:52 PM
Sent the Sean Dogs an offer of Pierre Thomas & Jerome Simpson for Marques Colston. Yes Im a whore for a good connector, but not enough of one to bench LeVeon Bell for one each week.

TONGO
10-22-13, 02:51 PM
Sent an offer Sedais way, Pierre Thomas & Doug Martin for Darren Sproles. The Bucs are hoping Martin will be back this season so I guess theres a chance.

Im disgusted in the Buccaneers this year. Boy they sure arent the Rays! :nope:

TONGO
10-23-13, 03:22 PM
Well I traded Doug Martin to Yoda for Randall Cobb. Martin may or may not be back this year, and Cobb may be back for week 15. Were trading crapshoots, but I like Cobbs numbers this season over Martins. Not Martins fault its just the club he plays for that's competely sucking this year.

Yoda
10-23-13, 03:50 PM
Yeah, makes sense. Cobb's a better bet to play again this year, but a worse bet to play again this regular season, so why not. Maybe I'll get lucky.

Powdered Water
10-24-13, 12:28 AM
You two are a couple of crazy people. Weird, crazy people.

rauldc14
10-24-13, 12:51 AM
Put out some gutsy offers to 5 people. First to accept is going to get a potential steal while I focus on short term stability.

TONGO
10-24-13, 06:11 PM
Report: Bucs eye Week 10 return for Doug Martin

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfootball/players/playerpage/1274369/doug-martin

Auuuuuuuuugh!!! I can see how a teams optimistic, say theyre hoping Martin could still come back this season, but 2 weeks?! 2 weeks!!??? Gaugh!

Yoda
10-24-13, 06:12 PM
That'd be nice, though I might be out of the running by then anyway. Of course, they also say they're going to shut him down if he has any setbacks. But as far as late season Hail Marys go, I'll take it.

TONGO
10-25-13, 01:13 AM
After losing Moreno to a dog dumb trade I made with Dex, and now Martin if he ends up playing week 10-16 (and again this is smelling dog dumb on my part), I wonder if I still got the juice to get deep in the playoffs now.

So Im gonna go with Pierre Thomas in the flex, but am very curious if Jonathan Stewart has any of that All Day Mojo when returning from 2 ankle surgeries in week 10. He definitely is an every down back, normally. I mightve struck gold with an RB off waivers again.

TONGO
11-04-13, 10:49 AM
Anyone on my team is open for a trade, yes that includes Drew Brees, Adrian Peterson, Larry Fitzgerald, but only if the right deal comes along.

TONGO
11-04-13, 12:42 PM
I have offers out to Dexter & LTIZZY. No I aint telling what they are this time. Im in top secret lockdown mode till my masterpiece is complete.

http://ianlueck.blog.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/00/06/90/04/6900497/files/titlecards/stimpysinvention.jpg

TONGO
11-05-13, 12:00 PM
Still awaiting Lisa and Dexters answers to my trade offers......

Yoda
11-05-13, 12:01 PM
So do I hold tight on the narrow possibility of a playoff spot, or blow the whole thing up? BURN IT TO THE GROUND!

If anybody gets a dramatic trade offer from me this week, you'll know why.

TONGO
11-05-13, 02:45 PM
Got a no from the Sookies. At the least I was gonna offer Adrian Peterson to Lisa for Calvin Johnson, but I guess she doesnt want to trade away Johnson even if its for AP. Surprising.

Still waiting on Tim.

rauldc14
11-05-13, 02:50 PM
So do I hold tight on the narrow possibility of a playoff spot, or blow the whole thing up? BURN IT TO THE GROUND!

If anybody gets a dramatic trade offer from me this week, you'll know why.

I now have more useless players on my team with Jordy having Rodgers out. Yay what a season

Yoda
11-05-13, 02:54 PM
Yeah, given the ripple effects in Green Bay's passing game, I wonder how many seasons this injury's going to derail.

Incidentally, it sounds like Rodgers is going to be almost perfectly positioned to come back for the fantasy playoffs, so now's a great time to buy him for 80 cents on the dollar and then bust him out then for any of you guys likely to secure a spot.

rauldc14
11-05-13, 03:06 PM
I don't think Wallace is capable of winning a game for us. I'm open to all the other options, Vince Young, Matt Flynn, and yes, as strange as it sounds Tim Tebow and Brett Favre.

TONGO
11-05-13, 05:45 PM
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/002/816/514/hi-res-157040121_crop_650x440.jpg?1355163502

I sent Dexter/Tim n offer of Larry Fitzgerald & Pierre Thomas for Knowshon Moreno. Understandably he's mulling, but if anyone has a great RB or WR for the both of them (yeah that one player would have to be good) Im open to offers while waiting.

http://www.apse.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Pierre-Thomas.jpg

TONGO
11-05-13, 07:13 PM
Also sent the Fitz/Thomas package to Justin for Reggie Bush.

Yoda
11-12-13, 11:09 AM
Trade deadline is the 15th, people. That's THIS Friday. Last chance to make a push or improve your team for the playoffs.