Neg rep is no more

[Yoda]

I've decided to remove negative rep from the site. A long time ago, when I built the system (and later reformed it), the expectation was it would be used very democratically, with lots of downvotes that nobody took all that personally. Kind of a Slashdot (and later, reddit) thing. But over time it hasn't been used that way, and it occurs to me that such systems only work when the site's entire identity is built around them. For example, with relatively disposable accounts. It doesn't work on sites with real, consistent identities and lots of people interacting regularly and directly.

Without that, it just causes fights.

So, after having thought about it for quite some time, I've removed negative rep from the site. I am, as always, open to feedback and ideas, but I've gone over a lot of the options in my head more than once over the years, and I'm pretty confident that this type of system is the best for this type of site.

May this usher in a new epoch of peace and prosperity throughout our fine forum. Huzzah.

[The Rodent]

Aww...does that mean all those neg reps I recieved from Trolls will be deleted?

[Miss Vicky]

Huzzah!

[Yoda]

Aww...does that mean all those neg reps I recieved from Trolls will be deleted?
Hmmm. I wasn't planning on going back and deleting the old ones or anything, unless there's a huge outcry for it. For just about every regular the good totally dwarfs the bad already, and that'll only become more pronounced now that there won't be any more negs.

[teeter_g]

As someone who never got a neg rep while it was available, I am a happy camper. My rep is 100% positive and always will be. WOOO!

[Skepsis93]

I think this is definitely for the better.

Will you not be reforming the statistics page at all, then? Because having a negative rep figure on the tracker but no option to give give it out any more seems a little weird.

[donniedarko]

Sexy celebrity when he hears the news:
http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/937448/80872377.gif

Idk I never really minded negative rep, and I think some people did deserve it on some posts. But I will have to write less apologies when I neg rep someone on accident.

[Yoda]

Will you not be reforming the statistics page at all, then? Because having a negative rep figure on the tracker but no option to give give it out any more seems a little weird.
Good question. I'll probably revisit it after a little while, yeah.

Idk I never really minded negative rep, and I think some people did deserve it on some posts. But I will have to write less apologies when I neg rep someone on accident.
Yeah, that's another part of it. A lot were just by accident, anyway. It ended up actually being a not-insignificant amount of work to remove the accidents and/or the abuses. Which I'd be glad to do if the system had some moderate amount of value, but I don't think it did, in the end.

Oh well. Lesson learned.

[DexterRiley]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLs5REzFvOY

[Sedai]

Good show!

*Claps*

[Miss Vicky]

I'm just glad that I won't be getting neg rep for ridiculous reasons anymore. You know, like saying that Being John Malkovich isn't overrated.

[The Prestige]

I completely disagree with removing it, Yoda. Sorry, but I do. The neg rep can help indicate who the trolls are around here and who's best to be avoided. I don't care if it starts fights, fights are natural. It's the closest I am ever going to come to punching anybody in the face on here, so I for one will miss it and urge you to reconsider.

[hapax_legomena]

Do people honestly get butt hurt over getting negged?


lol.

[The Prestige]

I think most people were angry about WHY they got neg repped. I've made posts where i've deserve a **** load of negs and didn't receive them, and i've made posts in which stating my opinion resulted in a bunch of mindless negs.

So yeah, it could get problematic at times, but it balances the system. Now we've got no choice but to pat each other on the back as if we're all best buds and ****. ****ing sucks, man.

[jiraffejustin]

Aww man. I never even got a down vote. ;)

[Kakarot89]

Man, this sucks! Now how am I going to downvote The Rodent?

[hapax_legomena]

Who cares if it was mindless? Proximity negged like 5 posts of mine in a row because he is the angriest person on forums and couldn't think of a better way to spite me out of anger. If anything, it was self-satisfying. Not to mention that +reps are given out so liberally on this site, so rep almost seems pointless in the grand scheme of things. "Oh jesus all these movies suck so much ass, but I did like this one when I was 8. +1." It's hardly like the few and far between negs even effect your rep, if you're the type of person who cares that much. Negs are hardly even a blemish, even on my account. You need to grow up if you're the type of person who gets flustered over being negged on an interent forum.

In the end, rep is just meaningless and worthless tallies on the interwebz (not even the entire interwebz, just a teeny tiny small ass microscopic portion), and if you fret over a measly "neg" then you need to reevaluate your life.

[Yoda]

I completely disagree with removing it, Yoda. Sorry, but I do. The neg rep can help indicate who the trolls are around here and who's best to be avoided. I don't care if it starts fights, fights are natural. It's the closest I am ever going to come to punching anybody in the face on here, so I for one will miss it and urge you to reconsider.
No problem, I don't mind you saying so. :) But hear me out: in my experience it really hasn't helped anyone spot trolls. How would that work? You read something and don't know it's trollish until you see the red number above it? Either it's quick and over, or it's prolonged, in which case the troll is almost invariably gone before long, anyway. And far from it helping you avoid people, I'll bet that big red number makes everyone more likely to read and reply something, rather than less. I just can't construct a plausible scenario where it provides useful, actionable information to people.

The "balance" thing you're talking about is exactly why I implemented this system in the first place. It just hasn't even remotely materialized in practice. I can talk all day about how I think the system should be used--and early on, I did--but I can't make people use it the right way. At a certain point my notions of how something should be have to take a backseat to how things are.

And I'll have to disagree a little more strenuously with your second post. This isn't forcing you to pat anyone on the back or be anyone's bud. It's just requiring people to actually express their disagreement with words. That's not exactly forcing everyone to sing Kumbaya.

[Daniel M]

872 positive reps and 0 negative reps for me whilst the system was in place :cool:

Good idea to remove it anyway, I've seen it used quite a lot just because people disagree with opinions or have a personal vendetta against someone and are arguing, becomes a bit childish at times.

[will.15]

I would give Yoda neg rep for taking away neg rep, but I can't. It didn't bother me most of the time except when it was used for vindictive reasons instead of actually reacting to a post. I think though I may have the distinction of receiving the very last neg because last night I got another from that joker who expected us to win their contest of unjumbling fifty movie titles in Movie Questions.

[hapax_legomena]

I would give Yoda neg rep for taking away neg rep, but I can't. It didn't bother me most of the time except when it was used for vindictive reasons instead of actually reacting to a post. I think though I may have the distinction of receiving the very last neg because last night I got another from that joker who expected us to win their contest of unjumbling fifty movie titles in Movie Questions.

I got one at 11:04pm last night. When did you receive yours?



THIS IS A SERIOUS HONOR, AND I HOPE NOT TO BE BESTED.

[will.15]

12:11 a.m.

[donniedarko]

Yoda got one today, at 7:22

http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=31403

Maybe that's why he got rid of it :suspicious:

[The Rodent]

I saw that... funny how when Yoda got a neg rep, he suddenly gets rid of the neg rep system.

:suspicious:

[will.15]

That sucks.

How does Yoda get negs?

You neg him he ban you.

[will.15]

Yoda should bring back neg rep for one hour so we can all neg him.

[Yoda]

I saw that... funny how when Yoda got a neg rep, he suddenly gets rid of the neg rep system.

:suspicious:
:laugh: Actually, the two are, indeed, linked: Sedai did that by accident, and he PM'd me about it. And that spurred me to finally do it, even though I'd made up my mind months ago to. I wanted to roll the change out with a bunch of other new things, but some of them might take longer than I'd expected, so I didn't want to wait to implement the simpler ones.

[will.15]

In that case it is not a real neg and should be removed as my neg is a legit one and should be the last MoFo neg.

[The Rodent]

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-confused002.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

[will.15]

So moderators can't remove their own negs as I know they can remove other ones?

[Sedai]

I saw that... funny how when Yoda got a neg rep, he suddenly gets rid of the neg rep system.

:suspicious:

Yep - I negged him by accident, then asked him to remove it. He didn't care, but it got us talking about the plan to remove the rep, which has been tossed around for a while now. So yeah, it was related, but not in the way you think it was. Sorry to confuse you all with the facts! ;)

[The Rodent]

That's ok... I'd do the same if I owned a forum.

Delete neg repping if I got one etc... :yup:

[will.15]

yep - i negged him by accident, then asked him to remove it. He didn't care, but it got us talking about the plan to remove the rep, which has been tossed around for a while now. So yeah, it was related, but not in the way you think it was. Sorry to confuse you all with the facts! ;)
-1

[Proximity]

Eh, not a big deal to me. I've only used it on two people in my entire time here anyway.

[Sedai]

If Will had his way, I would be at -55,431 rep at this point.

Let's all take a moment to be thankful that Will never gets his way.

Ever.

[The Rodent]

Unlike Yoda... who deletes the neg rep system when he got neg repped.

[will.15]

If Will had his way, I would be at -55,431 rep at this point.

Let's all take a moment to be thankful that Will never gets his way.

Ever.
The only neg I ever gave you is after there no longer is one.

[hapax_legomena]

I neg rep this site.

[Sinny McGuffins]

I wish I could neg rep a few of the posts in this thread.

[hapax_legomena]

I wish I could neg rep you.

[will.15]

The last true MofFo neg rep (accidental one don't count):

Samarth (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=76414) Today, 12:11 AM -1 The Movie Title Word Jumble! (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=31390)
He negged me and didn't answer so I assume, yeah, that is what he wanted us to do. I have had no problem in the past helping people with these things if it is just a couple questions, but this request... READ POST (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=888613)

[Sinny McGuffins]

I wish I could neg rep you.I wish I neg rep'd you when I had the chance.

[Yoda]

I neg rep this site.
We have this feature, actually. We call it "leaving."

Oh, snap.

[hapax_legomena]

u wot m8?
http://i.imgur.com/BdY9KoK.jpg

[will.15]

We need neg rep more than ever.

It is what made this forum great.

Unique.

And now it is gone.

it is so sad that commercialism has destroyed a once great, proud uncompromising forum dedicated to unvarnished truth.

I know planet news would agree with this if he wasn't out chasing girls.

[Harry Lime]

I've decided to remove negative rep from the site. A long time ago, when I built the system (and later reformed it), the expectation was it would be used very democratically, with lots of downvotes that nobody took all that personally. Kind of a Slashdot (and later, reddit) thing. But over time it hasn't been used that way, and it occurs to me that such systems only work when the site's entire identity is built around them. For example, with relatively disposable accounts. It doesn't work on sites with real, consistent identities and lots of people interacting regularly and directly.

Without that, it just causes fights.

So, after having thought about it for quite some time, I've removed negative rep from the site. I am, as always, open to feedback and ideas, but I've gone over a lot of the options in my head more than once over the years, and I'm pretty confident that this type of system is the best for this type of site.

May this usher in a new epoch of peace and prosperity throughout out fine forum. Huzzah.

I'd negative rep this post if I could, but instead...

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/Nabb1/boo-this-man.gif

[Harry Lime]

Do people honestly get butt hurt over getting negged?


lol.
Yeah, they do, and it is pretty funny, provided me with entertainment.

Now I wish I knew in advance so that I could have gone through and negative repped every post that ever annoyed me and every person that ever pissed me off.

Negative rep shall rise again!

[hapax_legomena]

If I was aware of its effectiveness I probably would have utilized it more as well.

[Harry Lime]

If I was aware of its effectiveness I probably would have utilized it more as well.
You missed out. Good times.

[will.15]

RIP
Neg Rep

2000 - 2013

[hapax_legomena]

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6133/6015067182_c0a6fd0e8f_z.jpg

[donniedarko]

This is like how Facebook doesn't have a dislike button. I've already wanted to give a neg rep since the rule change. Revive neg reps, REVIVE them.

[Proximity]

On the real, I felt absolutely fugging terrible for that woman when I saw that video of her getting harassed. Not sure what me saying that has to do with anything, but ye.

[hapax_legomena]

You have like 7k rep, and would cry when you were negged?


I think you are Karen Klein.


[I haven't actually seen the video, but looking at that poor woman's face, I know it must be brutal. I feel bad without needing to see it]

[hapax_legomena]

Snap. She got paid? Well then. I guess I don't feel as bad anymore.

[Proximity]

I still do. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E12R9fMMtos) Damn glad she got some dough to show for it, though.

[hapax_legomena]

30 seconds in and it's already f*cking brutal.

"verbally bullied by a feral pack of middle schoolers"

Made me lol.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I have 140 neg reps. I want $5 for each neg rep. That's $700. That's much less than what Karen got. Pay up!

[Sexy Celebrity]

And that was 10 years of abuse. Karen Klein only got 15 minutes.

Unfair world.

[hapax_legomena]

I hope they made all those kids' parents watch that entire video.

[Sedai]

I knew Sexy had slept with Yoko...I just knew it....

[will.15]

Sexy Celebrity only has 140 neg reps?

Who has the most?

[Yoda]

Gross or net?

[will.15]

Gross

[Harry Lime]

RE: Karen Klein

800k for that? It's a bunch of f#cking kids, who cares what they think or say.

http://www.imgjoe.com/x/donkingomrm.jpg

[Proximity]

Based on Sexy's figures, I'd have earned a measly $5. I'm charging a mega premium on my neg now. 10,000%


RE: Karen Klein

800k for that? It's a bunch of f#cking kids, who cares what they think or say.

http://www.imgjoe.com/x/donkingomrm.jpg

iirc, the money was donated by people who saw the video. I don't think it came from a lawsuit or anything, nor should it have. A bunch of people just decided to throw a couple of bucks her way through the web. I think she was facing some financial troubles, too, and at the end of the day, it's just money.

[Harry Lime]

Everybody crybabied about neg rep.
Speak for yourself, I cherish all 45 of mine, they're like my children.

[hapax_legomena]

Well she only is getting like 650k (lol still so much). And it was because some organization set up a fundraiser that a f*ckton of people donated to. She was very modest about the whole thing, didn't press charges or anything. She only wanted a new bus route and an apology.

[Harry Lime]

Well she only is getting like 650k (lol still so much). And it was because some organization set up a fundraiser that a f*ckton of people donated to. She was very modest about the whole thing, didn't press charges or anything. She only wanted a new bus route and an apology.
We should set up some situation and film it, post on youtube, backlash ensues, and then cash in on a fundraiser. I can be modest.

[Yoda]

Gross
meatwadsprite, believe it or not. Probably from his early days.

Holden's second. SC's ninth.

[Powdered Water]

if will had his way, i would be at -55,431 rep at this point.

Let's all take a moment to be thankful that will never gets his way.

Ever.

+1

[hapax_legomena]

I was only able to amass 10 negs in my short time as a member while negs were relevant. Feels like only yesterday. $50 is cool though. I'd gladly accept.


I remember having a fight with you one time.


Shocking.

[Powdered Water]

This is Fascist, man. You can take my neg rep when you pry it from my cold dead fingers.

[Proximity]

You only got 1 neg rep? It was probably from me, then. YOU DESERVED A LOT MORE! I remember having a fight with you one time.



hahahah it actually was you. :cool:

[hapax_legomena]

We should set up some situation and film it, post on youtube, backlash ensues, and then cash in on a fundraiser. I can be modest.

Okay, which of us will do the insulting? I have the capacity to be very immature and spew out a slew of distasteful and childish insults, including but not limited to: homophobic slurs, racial slurs, playground insults, and fat jokes. You think you can pull off some convincing tears?

[Sexy Celebrity]

Yoda is probably #1 with most neg rep. He's the admin/owner. It makes sense that people would piss on him.

If it's not him, then it's Django or Powderfinger.

Edit: Oops, now I see that Yoda already said Meatwadsprite was #1.

[hapax_legomena]

Ha! You said piss on him.

[Powdered Water]

I have 140 neg reps. I want $5 for each neg rep. That's $700. That's much less than what Karen got. Pay up!

I will pay you in hamburger.

[Harry Lime]

You think you can pull off some convincing tears?
Let me practice.

My dog died...
My dog is dead...

[Sexy Celebrity]

I will pay you in hamburger.

I'll take half if you pay in pizza, but hamburger sounds nice.

[donniedarko]

Anyway, I'd be interested in hearing everyone's amount of negative reps that they collected. They might be worth a lot of money someday!

I have 23 neg reps, mainly from Flimmaker, where does he rank in the neg reps gross Yoda (if he got in the top ten)

[Skepsis93]

How about Flim? and Medusa?

I have 9.

[will.15]

meatwadsprite, believe it or not. Probably from his early days.

Holden's second. SC's ninth.
Holden in second I believe, but meatwadsprite in first????

It is hard to believe there are eight people ahead of SC

[Godoggo]

I have three negs. Two are from Donnie Darko that were accidents and the other one was from some member that I didn't know.

[nebbit]

As someone who never got a neg rep while it was available, I am a happy camper. My rep is 100% positive and always will be. WOOO!
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w247/Sinomor/AMN%20Fun/sign-smiley-6837-1.gif

[Miss Vicky]

I have 12 neg reps. But there were another 13 or so (maybe more) that Yoda removed. I tried not to give out revenge neg reps and reserve them for people who I felt were exceptionally rude.

[Guaporense]

I've decided to remove negative rep from the site.

:) Now I am not afraid anymore to say a movie is crap so people will neg rep me!

Yeah! :D

[Guaporense]

Half of my neg rep (8 points) is due to my bashing of movies like The Tree of Life and stuff.

[Proximity]

Half of my neg rep (8 points) is due to my bashing of movies like The Tree of Life and stuff.

NEG THIS MAN!!!!!1!1!!1!two!!

Why don't you like The Tree of Life?

[The Rodent]

I've got 16 Negs.

Mostly from Medusa when I kept posting pics of Borat.

The rest are from (****Not Telling****) when they decided to target everything I said. Even when I made a couple of mistakes by not reading a previous post properly. They even negged my apology for not reading those posts properly too.

[The Rodent]

I think the 10 with the most negs should get a 1 month ban for being someone who said things that deserved negs.

[hapax_legomena]

reserve them for people who I felt were exceptionally rude.

I feel honored that my last neg was from you.

[will.15]

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Wow, you guys got so few neg reps. No wonder I complained about getting the neg rep system removed. Can you blame me?

I'm guessing Nebbit may have got some neg reps, too. I wonder how many. Someone (a woman, I imagine) probably didn't like her big breast avatars



Actually, if you take Guaporense and Miss Vickey's negs (all of them, before she got Yoda to remove so many) and multipled the average to your total posts, they are not as little as you think. I think I have 74 or 72, which is pretty low compared to my total posts. I never asked to have a rep I thought was unjustifed to be removed and I have had a few where the repper completely misunderstood what I said or were accidental negs. If you have no negs at all it makes you seem like some boring person who never says anything interesting.

[will.15]

Isn't that cool?

Too bad you can't neg me for it.

[Sexy Celebrity]

(http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=722)I think I have 74 or 72, which is pretty low compared to my total posts.

I noticed you have a lot of positive rep, which is surprising to me. I mean, you have a lot considering how long you've been here and what you post about. You have more than some other members I can think of.

If you have no negs at all it makes you seem like some boring person who never says anything interesting.

I know. I wish I came in 3rd place after Meatwad and Holden.

HELL, I wish I came in FIRST.

I'm such a slow evil sperm.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Isn't that cool?

Too bad you can't neg me for it.

I already feel a psychological change taking place within me because of this. Now that there isn't an option to neg rep, I really do feel more peaceful and unbothered by stuff like that. I feel like... there isn't an option to show hate except to verbalize it, and that's not something I like doing, so... I think this will be a lot better for me.

I suppose.

[Powdered Water]

Half of my neg rep (8 points) is due to my bashing of movies like The Tree of Life and stuff.

Why would you get neg rep for bashing that steaming pile of poo?

[Miss Vicky]

For the record, the 13 removed neg reps that I can recall were all from one person (in one night) and I did not ask Yoda to remove them. He took it upon himself to do that. I appreciated it, but did not actually ask for it.

[The Rodent]

:suspicious:

[Yoda]

I'd have to go back and check the others in the top 10, but I remember that I only mentioned the noteworthy ones. Pretty sure all the others were people who were eventually banned, for example.

[meatwadsprite]

... and I was well on my way to getting a red lightsaber.

[will.15]

Jesus, the guy only has around thirty-five hundred posts and he is number one in negs? I hardly ever notice him.

[gandalf26]

Personally sitting on 1307 total posts.

+760 positive rep

-16 neg rep

[hapax_legomena]

why would you get neg rep for bashing that steaming pile of poo?

-1

[JayDee]

Apparently I'm quite the goody two-shoes. I only ever got 5 neg reps compared to a current count of 2343 positive.

Got an accidental one from Godoggo, three from Powderfinger because he didn't like films that I had reviewed and one from Harry Lime I think it was for saying that I didn't like Nick Frost and wanted to punch him in the face. :D

[Harry Lime]

...and one from Harry Lime I think it was for saying that I didn't like Nick Frost and wanted to punch him in the face. :D
Good times.

[TheUsualSuspect]

Positive: +7445

Negative: - 69


Most are from Deadite, Juno and then randoms who never post.

I always found that the negative rep was a back and forth thing. If someone neg repped you, you did it back, then it was endless.

[will.15]

I was thinking you got negs from juno ? then i realized it was during her last days here and you were being mean to her and i think i negged you also and SC, you both were going after her the worst.

She was just a sad little attention whore.

I bet I would pre neg rap get a neg for this post for saying whore (attention only).

[will.15]

Take away the positive rep also.

[will.15]

Only sober thing he ever did.

[Guaporense]

Actually, if you take Guaporense and Miss Vickey's negs (all of them, before she got Yoda to remove so many) and multipled the average to your total posts, they are not as little as you think.

I have 1 neg rep for every 80 posts of so. That's not above average, I think.

I think I have 74 or 72, which is pretty low compared to my total posts.

That's around 1 neg rep for every 130 posts. A bit lower than mine. Sexy Celebrity has about 1 neg rep for every 80 posts like myself.

I never asked to have a rep I thought was unjustifed to be removed and I have had a few where the repper completely misunderstood what I said or were accidental negs. If you have no negs at all it makes you seem like some boring person who never says anything interesting.

Indeed. My neg rep were due to my claims that certain movies were bad or unoriginal or inferior to other movies. My neg rep came from disagreements. If you never say something interesting you will never get neg rep, though more civilized people could accept that other people may have tastes different from yours.

[Guaporense]

Why don't you like The Tree of Life?

For me it feels simplistic, forced, artificial and too transparent a movie. :)

Beginning the movie with the mom receiving a phone call of her son's death was just too much self indulgence for me. Later it got worse and worse.

[Cream]

For me it feels simplistic, forced, artificial and too transparent a movie. :)

Beginning the movie with the mom receiving a phone call of her son's death was just too much self indulgence for me. Later it got worse and worse.
I wish I could give you a neg rep but I couldnt.

[Proximity]

Stotted frum the bottom now wierhear.

[will.15]

So, wait a minute. If Meatwadsprite, Holden Pike and I are the most noteworthy members with the most neg rep, does that mean we are the three baddest bitches of MoFo?


http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/30/0bf7c427e16a56540b60228a53cc46a0/l.jpg ► (http://www.myspace.com/jazzie_belle/photos/27360207#mssrc=SitesPhotos_PP_ViewPhoto) ◄ (http://www.myspace.com/jazzie_belle/photos/27360202#mssrc=SitesPhotos_PP_ViewPhoto)
jazziebelle w/ two of the baddest bitches you'll ever meet! jessica rabbit and mizz natasha
In this photo:

[Powdered Water]

Which one is SC?

[will.15]

Jazziebelle in the middle.

[nebbit]

I'm guessing Nebbit may have got some neg reps, too. I wonder how many. Someone (a woman, I imagine) probably didn't like her big breast avatars.
I have 93 neg rep points :eek: they were mostly from people who didn't like what I said about certain movies and quite a few from Django who is now banned :yup:

[Sexy Celebrity]

Jazziebelle in the middle.

I agree. I'm definitely the black girl.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I have 93 neg rep points :eek: they were mostly from people who didn't like what I said about certain movies and quite a few from Django who is now banned :yup:

Well, you have been here for 10 years now, so...

BAD GIRL!
http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=10315&stc=1&d=1364119052
(Mannequin, 1987 - Hollywood's car)

[Redux]

"Like" on Facebook. I get it.

[Yoda]

So? They're noteworthy, too.

God, you hate it when people speak of banned members, like Powderfinger. This isn't Harry Potter. They're not Voldemort.
Hardly. I love reminiscing about most of them and do it all the time. But in this case it's pretty boring: medusa, FilmExpert, Django. The usual suspects (not The Usual Suspect, though).

[Yoda]

Anyway, I'm gonna start zapping all the posts that aren't, you know, actually about the topic of removing the neg rep system. There's some worthwhile stuff to talk about there, so let's let people talk about that, if they want.

[Redux]

It's like the quote under your username.

[Gabrielle947]

This is the first forum I've been which allows to + or - a post.I think that neg rep isn't very bad but I believe that it should be given for normal reasons - bad language or insults.I don't discuss here much but I think if someone disagrees with a opinion,he can neg rep it.Too bad that many people take it too seriously because only positive rep is boring. :P

[Miss Vicky]

To me, neg repping someone just because you disagree with their opinion is pointless.

If you don't agree with what they have to say, tell them that in a post and explain why you disagree with them. You know, have a discussion. That's kind of what this forum is for.

[will.15]

I only negged when I thought they were being big time jerks. It is better to neg than to post they are an ahole.

[Gabrielle947]

If you don't agree with what they have to say, tell them that in a post and explain why you disagree with them. You know, have a discussion. That's kind of what this forum is for.
yes,I agree that is the best way but if you give positive rep for a post you like or agree with,then I don't think it should be insulting if you get negative rep for different opinion or disagreement.The thing which bothers me is that people take neg rep like an insult.I think "-" and "I disagree" is the same thing.

[Godoggo]

To me, neg repping someone just because you disagree with their opinion is pointless.

If you don't agree with what they have to say, tell them that in a post and explain why you disagree with them. You know, have a discussion. That's kind of what this forum is for.

Yeah, I've never understood neg repping because you have a difference of opinion.

I rarely negged anyone (on purpose) and when I did it was because they were flat out being a jerk. Even then it's still pretty pointless. If the person is being a jerk, most likely they want to be a jerk and the neg rep is probably a positive to them anyway.

[Harry Lime]

It is better to neg than to post they are an ahole.
I enjoyed doing both.

Yeah, I've never understood neg repping because you have a difference of opinion.
But it's okay to positive rep when you agree with an opinion?

[Godoggo]

I positive rep people to say I liked your post. I would neg someone's post to say I didn't like your post. One seems nice, the other doesn't. I wouldn't want to neg someone's post if I simply disagreed with them, because some people don't like neg rep and I prefer to deal with people positively.

[Yoda]

It's not any more sensible to give positive rep simply for agreeing with someone than it is to give negative rep for disagreeing, but let's not pretend they're just opposites. Being nice to someone has inherent value; you don't really need a reason for it. Being negative towards someone, on the other hand, does require one.

I don't particularly like the way some people hand out rep so easily, mind you, but it's a false equivalence to say that neg repping people for simple disagreement is the same thing.

Anyway, I don't think we've heard any examples of how the option to neg rep people has been really useful. And no, using it to deliberately work people up doesn't count. If that's your idea of amusement, you can easily replicate it by gathering up some pointy sticks and poking things with them.

[Godoggo]

Yoda, just out of curiosity what purpose did you have in mind with the positive and negative rep? Or what effect (if any) did you think it would have on the forum?
You may have addressed this somewhere, so I apologize if you have.

I was wondering if there was any behavioral thought behind it or another reason.

[Yoda]

Yeah, when I introduced it many years ago, I was thinking of something kind of like Slashdot or reddit. I was hoping people would vote a lot of things both up and down and everyone would just go with the flow. To that end it was even anonymous at first, if I remember correctly. But it really irked people to get negative rep and not know who gave it.

I think that kind of thing can work, but the entire site and its culture needs to be built up around it from the get-go. It works with sites where people don't really have avatars and people can quickly and easily create lots of disposable accounts. Free-for-alls, basically, with a lot of anonymity and the upvotes/downvotes are the only way to separate good from bad. Doesn't work as well in places where people have constant identities and know each other.

[will.15]

I think it was just a few people who got all out of shape about it.

[The Rodent]

I think it was just a few people who got all out of shape about it.


Yeah... (Yoda)

:suspicious:

[Yoda]

Sounds like you agree with the removal, then.

As for the religious angle...isn't what you're describing inherent in any kind of reputation system? I don't see anything about this one, in particular, that suggests that. Other than that glowing crucifix I put on people's posts when they get to +5, I mean.

[Harry Lime]

Anyway, I don't think we've heard any examples of how the option to neg rep people has been really useful.
Guarpornese posted his top 25 list in the 90's list thread even though I had asked everyone not to. Negative rep useful.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Guarpornese posted his top 25 list in the 90's list thread even though I had asked everyone not to. Negative rep useful.

http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=10325&stc=1&d=1364186605

So is using a gun and shooting Guaporense for doing that, but would you do it? Is it necessary? NO!

[Sexy Celebrity]

Actually, if you changed the "thumbs down" hand to a gun, and "-1" to "BANG!" -- that would be so much more fun!! I would want the neg rep system back, then. Screw gun control.

[will.15]

It seems Yoda was saying he expected people to use neg rep a lot more than they did so it was equal to the positive repping. Bring it back and we all promise to much more neg. It will flow like blood.

This forum just won't be the same when we get the next Medusa or Film Expert if we can't neg.

Wirhout even reading the posts you see all that red you know they were bad dudes.

[Harry Lime]

So is using a gun and shooting Guaporense for doing that, but would you do it? Is it necessary? NO!
Wow. There is absolutely no way to respond to a post like this...except maybe to negative rep it. Man, I wish negative rep was still around.

[will.15]

With neg rep this was a cool, edgy forum. Now it is like Walt Disney owns it.

[Harry Lime]

-10,000

Man, I wish negative rep was still around.

[nebbit]

Being nice to someone has inherent value; you don't really need a reason for it.
:up:

[Harry Lime]

+1

I will kill your wishes with kindness.

Man, I wish negative rep was still around.

And on another note, to think that there aren't reasons behind people being nice is naive or idealistic - whichever, it's the same thing really.

[Harry Lime]

Nobody ever talks about this. It's always how being nice is always evil! People are so obsessed with the evil.
Evil? Wow. There is absolutely no way to respond...

[Harry Lime]

I vote we ditch plus rep too. I know, this isn't a democracy, it's Yoda's dictatorship.

[will.15]

Originally Posted by Yoda http://www.movieforums.com/community/images/buttons/lastpost.gif (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=889591#post889591)
Being nice to someone has inherent value; you don't really need a reason for it.


Being nice sucks.

Nice guys do finish last.

When you are nice other people walk all over you.

[Cobpyth]

Actually, if you changed the "thumbs down" hand to a gun, and "-1" to "BANG!" -- that would be so much more fun!! I would want the neg rep system back, then. Screw gun control.

Actually that's not such a bad idea. It would solve the main problem of neg repping, because if you seperate the thumbs ups and the bangs in that way that the bangs have no influence on the reputation points, it will be used much more frequently and won't be taken as personally.

[nebbit]

Being nice sucks.
No way :nope: Nice feels good

Nice guys do finish last.
Who says :confused:

When you are nice other people walk all over you.

You can be nice and stand up for yourself :yup: People only walk over me if I let them :yup:

[The Rodent]

Being nice does tend to make people walk over you... but they're the kind of people that do it to get a rise out of you.

If you just carry on being nice, they stop.

[Yoda]

Guarpornese posted his top 25 list in the 90's list thread even though I had asked everyone not to. Negative rep useful.
You didn't need the negative rep to see that he'd done it, and several of us replied to it anyway. So what was done with the negative rep that wasn't easily done by other means?

And on another note, to think that there aren't reasons behind people being nice is naive or idealistic - whichever, it's the same thing really.
I said you don't need a reason, not that there aren't ever reasons. Though if thinking there aren't ever reasons is naive, then thinking there always are is paranoid. Fact is, lots of regulars have more rep than they need for any practical purpose, so they have no compelling reason--even if you want to reduce them all to purely self-interested rep hounds--to give it out for some kind of unstated quid pro quo, which is what I assume you're suggesting here.

[Yoda]

I'd like to address a larger point that I think is getting in the way of what I've actually been asking. I've seen several users talk about "being nice to everyone," or some variant. I think this is revealing.

When I combine that sentiment with the fact that, in my opinion, nobody's presented any practical use for negative rep that actually works in reality, I think it's increasingly clear that the problem a few of you have with this is not the decision itself, but what you imagine it signals about the direction of the site. You think it signals some kind of happy-go-lucky, bumpers-on-the-bowling-lane, no-sharp-edges community where everyone wishes everyone happy birthday forever and forever and everyone gets milk and cookies until their parents come pick them up.

I'm exaggerating. A little.

But MoFo's never been like that. It wasn't like that before negative rep, and it won't be like that now that negative rep is gone. Give it a few weeks and see if people are suddenly holding hands and singing songs together. Betcha they aren't. I'll betcha the only change is that the percentage of actual fights about actual disagreements goes up while the percentage of pointless rep slap fights goes down.

[Skepsis93]

I'd like to address a larger point that I think is getting in the way of what I've actually been asking. I've seen several users talk about "being nice to everyone," or some variant. I think this is revealing.

When I combine that sentiment with the fact that, in my opinion, nobody's presented any practical use for negative rep that actually works in reality, I think it's increasingly clear that the problem a few of you have with this is not the decision itself, but what you imagine it signals about the direction of the site. You think it signals some kind of happy-go-lucky, bumpers-on-the-bowling-lane, no-sharp-edges community where everyone wishes everyone happy birthday forever and forever and everyone gets milk and cookies until their parents come pick them up.

I'm exaggerating. A little.

But MoFo's never been like that. It wasn't like that before negative rep, and it won't be like that now that negative rep is gone. Give it a few weeks and see if people are suddenly holding hands and singing songs together. Betcha they aren't. I'll betcha the only change is that the percentage of actual fights about actual disagreements goes up while the percentage of pointless rep slap fights goes down.

I never thought that. I think I gave neg rep once or twice and probably in the first few months I was here. My percentage is 1% or something. If I'm genuinely displeased with something, I'll use my words since I knew if I handed out neg rep I'd just get some back and it'd be a whole thing.

[Yoda]

I vote we ditch plus rep too. I know, this isn't a democracy, it's Yoda's dictatorship.
Yup! Which, lemme tell you, is super awesome for me. The dictator. Wheeeee!

However, it seems abundantly clear that a democracy would yield the same result in this case, given the response so far. Though you huddled masses might not like my plan to abolish all negative comments, followed by abolishing disagreement itself, followed by any fountain drinks larger than 16 oz. It's for your own good, MoFos.

Indeed, I won't stop until everyone is joined together into some formless mass of humanity, smiling and agreeing with itself about movies forever. Yes, the removal of neg rep is only the beginning. :drevil:

[Tacitus]

To that end it was even anonymous at first, if I remember correctly. But it really irked people to get negative rep and not know who gave it.

If I'm remembering this correctly, when I first joined 53 years ago, rep wasn't anonymous (but long time members had massive powers of rep, truly frightening ones :D). Then it was, and people started ****ing around with it. Then it wasn't again.

Personally, I never saw the use for neg rep - As people have already said: If you don't agree with someone, tell them why. There are times I need to be convinced about the merits of + rep but, on the whole, I don't mind it. ;)

[ash_is_the_gal]

this thread got so dramatic. why does everyone have to make such a big deal about everything?

[Yoda]

Cuz MoFo. That's why.

[will.15]

Being nice does tend to make people walk over you... but they're the kind of people that do it to get a rise out of you.

If you just carry on being nice, they stop.
They don't do it to get a rise out of you. They do it to take advantage of you. And they won't stop doing it until you stop being nice and say no when they ask you to do something for them, which isn't nice.

[will.15]

yup! Which, lemme tell you, is super awesome for me. The dictator. Wheeeee!

However, it seems abundantly clear that a democracy would yield the same result in this case, given the response so far. Though you huddled masses might not like my plan to abolish all negative comments, followed by abolishing disagreement itself, followed by any fountain drinks larger than 16 oz. It's for your own good, mofos.

Indeed, i won't stop until everyone is joined together into some formless mass of humanity, smiling and agreeing with itself about movies forever. Yes, the removal of neg rep is only the beginning. :drevil:
-1

[Yoda]

I'm pretty sure we can make a distinction between being nice and being a pushover. Just as we can make a distinction between merely ending pointless neg rep slap fights and demanding that everyone be nice to each other.

[rauldc14]

It's seems weird that there's no neg rep. Now I don't have to worry about saying anything too stupid.

[will.15]

The sixties were not really like that.

You had not to be there.

[Harry Lime]

You didn't need the negative rep to see that he'd done it, and several of us replied to it anyway.
But the negative rep was useful, in that by using the system employed in this forum you were able to express your disproval. And then you are right, in the end it wasn't needed to express that, but then again giving someone plus rep because you approve isn't needed at all. So why bother removing one or keeping both? It's inconsistent.

I said you don't need a reason, not that there aren't ever reasons. Though if thinking there aren't ever reasons is naive, then thinking there always are is paranoid.
You say paranoid and I say basic psychology. This is behaviourism, one of the most common and simple ideas that form the base of modern psychology. Like I said, these reasons may not even be fully conscious to the person, but that doesn't mean they aren't there and doesn't mean that they are any less significant.

[Harry Lime]

Indeed, I won't stop until everyone is joined together into some formless mass of humanity, smiling and agreeing with itself about movies forever. Yes, the removal of neg rep is only the beginning. :drevil:
Commie propaganda! Dammit, they got Yoda too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRVfGMjdGh8

[will.15]

It just doesn't seem right I can only give Sexy Celebrity positive rep.

[Yoda]

But the negative rep was useful, in that by using the system employed in this forum you were able to express your disproval. And then you are right, in the end it wasn't needed to express that, but then again giving someone plus rep because you approve isn't needed at all. So why bother removing one or keeping both? It's inconsistent.
Because one causes pointless fights, while the other doesn't and seems to make most people happier.

You say paranoid and I say basic psychology. This is behaviourism, one of the most common and simple ideas that form the base of modern psychology. Like I said, these reasons may not even be fully conscious to the person, but that doesn't mean they aren't there and doesn't mean that they are any less significant.
I grok the concept, I just don't necessarily agree with it. But let's put our opinions of modern psychology aside. I'll accept what you're saying for the sake of argument, because it raises a more relevant issue: if this is basic psychology, why fight it? If people are going to like giving and receiving positive rep, and we know they get all worked up about negative rep, shouldn't that settle the matter? If basic psychology is what you say it is, then it seems to me no rep system worth having would go against its grain.

[Yoda]

You know, you are sexy when you talk about unconscious processes.
Don't be ridiculous. He's sexy all the time.

[AKA23]

I disagree with this as well. It seems to me that if you are going to have something signifying that you approve of something, than as a matter of fairness, you should also have something signifying that you disapprove of it. Otherwise, your choices are either to agree, or to be silent, and silence is ambiguous. I feel the same way with Facebook, which has a like button only. Of course, a poster still has the ability to comment to express their disapproval or disagreement, but that is a far more active role than disliking something, which is far more passive, and requires much less effort. Logically, I would think that having a dislike button would actually lead to less arguments rather than more, since a passive dislike seems a lot less of an affront than a post explaining a strong disagreement.

I will admit that I haven't been an active poster for long enough to know how this works in practice, so Yoda may be correct on that score, but as a principle, I disagree with a one-sided policy.

[Harry Lime]

Because one causes pointless fights, while the other doesn't and seems to make most people happier.
And that's fair, and I understand why as the dictator of this site you would like to have a smoothly run totalitarian movie society. Really, I'm not being sarcastic or anything. I think it was raul who said some posts back that now he could post freeley and not worry about saying something stupid and getting negative rep. People shouldn't have been worried like that for something as insignificant as rep (+ or -) but I can see how this happens. So in turn, I expect to see a lot more uninhibited posting here in the future as a result of the change! That's a good thing.

I'll accept what you're saying as the absolute truth...
That's all I needed. Thanks!

[will.15]

And that's fair, and I understand why as the dictator of this site you would like to have a smoothly run totalitarian movie society. Really, I'm not being sarcastic or anything. I think it was raul who said some posts back that now he could post freeley and not worry about saying something stupid and getting negative rep. People shouldn't have been worried like that for something as insignificant as rep (+ or -) but I can see how this happens. So in turn, I expect to see a lot more uninhibited posting here in the future as a result of the change! That's a good thing.


That's all I needed. Thanks!
So this is what Harry Lime is like when he is not being sarcastic.

[The Prestige]

Now if everybody had this kind of attitude, I probably wouldn't have minded neg rep at all. I'd be nuclear bombing neg rep all over the place.

Everybody crybabied about neg rep. It wasn't just me. If you gave someone a neg rep for something, they typically neg repped you back, as revenge. I have done it and I have seen others do it.

Actually, I would prefer that we only had neg rep and no positive rep. The positive rep is the most annoying. If you don't get any positive rep, you're left out. And people abuse the positive rep, too, in ways.

This might even lead to more positive rep being given out than ever. It's so easy to give it out now -- there's no choice anymore. There's no option for a neg rep. It's just one simple, efficient click.

You can still be cold to people, though, using this, by simply not giving them any positive rep. Now MoFos are going to be snootier than ever. Indifference will be the law.

Now, MoFos, I think it's time I make a bunch of nasty posts that you can't neg rep.



THIS.


This has been bugging me for awhile, now. Like, the other day me and Yoda were responding to some negative remarks about Christopher Nolan in the Interseller thread. I felt we both made some decent points and stuff, but who do you think got all the rep? The only rep I got was from Yoda himself. Now, I don't post to get rep, i've got all the rep I need. Once the green isn't displayed in little bits, it's not as fun to receive + rep. But to acknowledge somebody other the other in the same thread where they both make similar points is taking the piss. I'd rather they just didn't rep either one us.



I'll bet that big red number makes everyone more likely to read and reply something, rather than less. I just can't construct a plausible scenario where it provides useful, actionable information to people.
I don't deny that trollish posts are entertaining and can lure people into reading it all that, but the neg rep can still pretty much put things in a nutshell for those who don't have time to read everything. I can spot a troll a mile away, but if I see a high red number, i'll immediately know not to take it seriously and may sometimes just avoid reading it altogether.



I can't make people use it the right way. At a certain point my notions of how something should be have to take a backseat to how things are.

There is no 'right' or 'wrong' way of using the system. It's there. Most people, I would argue, use it for acceptable reasons. Sure, i'm notorious with the neg rep and stuff, but after my first stint, i've only ever negged people who deserved it.

After thinking about it, you're right, the new system doesn't necessarily force us to pat people on the back, but I do think that ONLY being able to give somebody a gold sticker is unbalanced. I really think Harry's on to something when he says that the plus rep should be gotten rid of. You can't have it one way, Yoda.

[Cream]

Once +ve rep is gone, people will stop all doing all of those stupid "favorite movie" countdowns and just release the whole damn list. Sounds great to me. Thumbs up for removing +ve rep! Irony detected.

[Yoda]

I don't deny that trollish posts are entertaining and can lure people into reading it all that, but the neg rep can still pretty much put things in a nutshell for those who don't have time to read everything. I can spot a troll a mile away, but if I see a high red number, i'll immediately know not to take it seriously and may sometimes just avoid reading it altogether.
Yeah, but I'm sure you know not to take it seriously the moment you read it. And as for avoiding it: does his actually happen? This feels like the kind of reason I gave when I first started the system, but not like something that takes place. And for every person who, one time out of a dozen maybe skips over it, I think it's safe to say that far more go out of their way to read it.

After thinking about it, you're right, the new system doesn't necessarily force us to pat people on the back, but I do think that ONLY being able to give somebody a gold sticker is unbalanced. I really think Harry's on to something when he says that the plus rep should be gotten rid of. You can't have it one way, Yoda.
Well, if one of those ways has very little benefit and causes lots of pointless discord, and the other doesn't...why not?

A few members have mentioned the idea of "balance," and I'm a little surprised by that. These aren't karmic forces, after all; the idea of having both doesn't have any inherent power, and they're not people that have to be treated fairly or given equal time. The only question is: what leads to be a better community? What encourages discussion and discourages pointless fighting? I think that's the criteria on which these things should be judged.

[honeykid]

I can't believe this has gone on for 11 pages. I really didn't know people cared this much one way or the other.

[ash_is_the_gal]

Once +ve rep is gone, people will stop all doing all of those stupid "favorite movie" countdowns and just release the whole damn list. Sounds great to me. Thumbs up for removing +ve rep! Irony detected.

in my next countdown thread, i'm going to list one half of a movie per post cause you said this. what you gonna do about it? nothing, that's what.

[donniedarko]

I can't believe this has gone on for 11 pages. I really didn't know people cared this much one way or the other.

Well it convinced you to FINALLY change your signature.

[will.15]

52 neg rep and proud. - Honeykid

That ain't anything considering how many posts you have.

[Guaporense]

Once +ve rep is gone, people will stop all doing all of those stupid "favorite movie" countdowns and just release the whole damn list. .

People don't release their whole list because the idea is to talk about each entry. :rolleyes:

[will.15]

If Bin Laden was still alive and became a MoFo, now we can't neg rep him.

[TONGO]

I thought neg rep/pos rep was a cool feature, but in retrospect it just ended up causing more hassle than its worth. Plainly put people just dont want to be criticized. It happens all throughout our lives, but when you want to get on the site to just b.s. about movies or sports the last thing you welcome is a neg rep and a smarmy comment to go with it.

[will.15]

I have come to the concusion the reason Neg Rep caused problems:

It was Yoda's fault.

He didn't establish guidelines for using neg rep. This is how some bodybuilding forum (which I will never visit again because I dont have anything in common with those people) describes the proper use of neg rep:

Negative reputation should be given if the person is posting something that detracts from the conversation. If the post is rude, inappropriate, breaks forum rules, is not gracious, etc; these are all good reasons to give negative reputation. If you have a personal grudge with someone, their team, etc, is it not appropriate to give them negative reputation for no reason. Giving negative reputation because you don't agree with what was said is not an appropraite use of the reputation system. People are entitled to their own opinions, and just because you don't agree doesn't mean the user was wrong or not contributing to the conversation.

That is pretty much how I was using it. If the guidelines for it was made clear, and moderators reiterated it in situations where it got tense, it wouldn't have created the problems it did.

[Yoda]

We did that a lot in the early days. I reiterated the way it was to be used repeatedly, and warned users in specific instances when it was abused. It was a losing battle. Maybe it would've been better if we'd done this consistently even in spite of this, but I think any system that requires that kind of constant course correction is probably a poorly conceived one.

[Tacitus]

So if we started applying rules on how to use and not use rep it would have created less friction?

There are always gonna be chippy little sods who see an easy way to leave their mark on a site or a poster and I very much doubt if guidelines like the above (which is basic common sense) would have dissuaded them.

[cinemaafficionado]

Geez, I'm now going to be denied the chance to catch-up to Sexy Celebrity!:D
I would also propose a new way to deal with the ignore list.
If someone is on your ignore list, I don't think it benefits you to be able to see that the ignored person has posted some comment on your thread or post. It should be arranged,that you personally can not see whether they posted or not. Afterall, they were meant to be ignored and should be treated as such ( you don't need an unignore prompt in order to see what was posted by someone you chose to ignore ).

[will.15]

I'm into movies (even if these days they are mostly older ones), not bodybuilders.

[wintertriangles]

I can't believe this has gone on for 11 pages. I really didn't know people cared this much one way or the other.This is what I was going to say. I know we have a lot of free time but damn

[will.15]

So if we started applying rules on how to use and not use rep it would have created less friction?

There are always gonna be chippy little sods who see an easy way to leave their mark on a site or a poster and I very much doubt if guidelines like the above (which is basic common sense) would have dissuaded them.
I wamt to neg rep you for posting that twice.

[honeykid]

52 neg rep and proud. - Honeykid

That ain't anything considering how many posts you have.

Well, obviously. I'm hardly ever wrong. :p

[TheUsualSuspect]

Question: The Rep within 24 hours bit was eliminated?

[Yoda]

I'm not sure what you're referring to. There was a provision like that on the old system, but not on this one. However, I retrofitted the post comments to use that system, so I think that's the only place you'd potentially run into it.

[TheUsualSuspect]

Under Rep Tracker, it says how many positive percentage and negative percentage. If someone repped you in would say Repped in the past 24 hours and repped this week I believe.

Looks to be gone now, or maybe it has been for awhile. I just put it here instead of making new thread.

[Yoda]

Oh, yes. Yeah, that's gone for now. Way too intensive to calculate. I'm thinking of efficient ways to bring that kinda stuff back, but for now it was the only way to get the Reputation Tracker loading in a reasonable amount of time. It was taking 10-12 seconds, and usually takes just a few now.

[mark f]

Yeah, it was removed when Yoda made everybody's rep page faster.

[Deadite]

- rep for Yoda.

[Nausicaä]

http://d22zlbw5ff7yk5.cloudfront.net/images/uncaptioned-3C1Aq-50ca41e062b71.gif

[Mr Minio]

He still has 11197 and doesn't seem to be impressed!

[n3wt]

I did wonder what had happened to the neg rep. Does anyone remember that loon that was posting nonsense all the time and ended up with a red lightsaber, that was hilarious. Think his name was something like terminator.

[Deadite]

Are you referring to the "alternate universe" guy? The one who asked all those pointless what-ifs about movies? That was hilarious.

[n3wt]

I think is name was redinator or something similar and pretty much everything he said ended in him having a neg rep :laugh:

[Devils Angel]

Well, obviously. I'm hardly ever wrong. :p

I would so neg rep this hahaha, mainly cause your taste in women is terrible, thus you are wrong a considerable amount.

In other news I only had 2 neg reps, both of those I got a message from at some point saying they were sorry and it was by accident. Im a good girl obviously :D

[Mr Minio]

I would so neg rep this hahaha, mainly cause your taste in women is terrible Don't criticise anybody's taste in women if it's bad. He simply makes more "room" for ya!

[nebbit]

Don't criticise anybody's taste in women if it's bad. He simply makes more "room" for ya!
:goof:

[josephay]

Wise words Mr Minio. Wise words.