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honeykid
10-26-12, 03:38 PM
Am I the only one who hadn't heard about this?
Still failing to realise that too much of a good thing can actually be pretty bad, those greedy Hollywood types are transplanting one of the most iconic movie characters ever to the smaller screen.
After the huge success of The Silence Of The Lambs (still the only horror film to have won a best picture Oscar), Hannibal Lecter became a household name (sorry Manhunter). Then there was Ridley Scott's Hannibal which was undoubtedly weaker but still conjured up some fascinating moments. After that we saw Red Dragon, which was solid but a bit too Brett Ratner-y.
Finally, if anyone can even remember, there was a pointless prequel entitled Hannibal Rising which was instantly forgotten. In September, it was announced that we'd be getting a TV series based around the famous cannibal and now, we have some more information.
NBC have picked up the show, called Hannibal, in the US, and it will be written and exec-produced by Bryan Fuller, best known for working on Heroes and Pushing Daisies. Apparently he's a fan of Lecter's dark, sick side but how this will fly on network TV is a tough one.
Fuller will write a script and if NBC approve, the show will bypass the pilot stage and go straight into a 13-episode order.
Details on the plot are still sketchy but all that's been said is that the series would “centre on Lecter’s early days, namely his time going head-to-head with FBI agent Will Graham.”
It's not the only TV series based on a movie that we have to look forward to. The Tom Cruise/John Grisham thriller The Firm is also coming onto our screens next year.
http://www.shortlist.com/entertainment/tv/what-we-know-about-the-hannibal-tv-show
Can this work as a network show? Were it not for Bryan Fuller, I'd write it off completely. Even so, I just can't see it being good if they stay 'true' to the film. However, if they turn it into the kind of show the original inspired, Criminal Minds, for example, then it might prove entertaining enough if you forget the origins. Apparently, Fuller has seven seasons planned out for Hannibal.
Fuller's bringing back some of his previous contributors for his latest crack.
Caroline Dhavernas and Chelan Simmons (Wonderfalls) are set to star, with Simmons playing the same character she did in Wonderfalls as part of a crossover. There's also Lara Jean Chorostecki (Freddie Lounds), Laurence Fishburne (Jack Crawford) and Gina Torres (Crawford's wife). Hannibal will be played by Mads Mikkelson and Will Graham by Hugh Dancy.
Rather than make another thread, I'll just mention here that Fuller's also rebooting The Munster's. Now called Mockingbird Lane.
According to The Hollywood Reporter, the new version of the sitcom will feature Jerry O'Connell (Piranha 3D) as Herman Munster and Portia de Rossi (Arrested Development) as his wife Lily, with Eddie Izzard as Grandpa Munster.
"We wanted this to look like if Hitchcock was directing a Harry Potter film," Fuller told the crowd, and noted that he was inspired to retell the Munsters story after visiting an art exhibit by Tim Burton in New York.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/ustv/news/a393392/bryan-fuller-hits-comic-con-with-munsters-hannibal-lecter-reboots.html
will.15
10-26-12, 03:58 PM
NBC passed on the Munsters revamp, but they are airing the pilot tonight with the possibility they may change their mind if it does well in the ratings.
If Fuller's involved, I'm there.
Daniel M
01-19-14, 08:46 PM
Season 2 trailer looks f*cking awesome.
http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi3032328985/
Season 2 trailer looks f*cking awesome.
http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi3032328985/
Indeed. Cannot wait for this show to come back, I really hope that the network doesn't drop the show because Hannibal is quality. From the impeccable cinematography and eerie mood, to the fantastic acting.
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^^^^^ Oh hochi-Mama! Caroline Dhavernas is gorgeous. Am smitten.
I avoided this show when I first heard it was coming. The only good Lecter flicks imo were Silence Of The Lambs, and the Red Dragon remake (sorry Michael Mann, not that flick). Just thought they were squeezing the sponge to try and get every last drop of profit off the Lecter name.
So Im recently going thru "best of" lists trying to find a series to watch, and in the top 5 of all lists is the tv show Hannibal. I thought what the hell. I was hooked in the first 15 minutes. The way they transformed the crime scene to the Will Graham characters perspective when he "gets into the head" of the killer, was more chilling than however displayed in prior films.
Fishburne is playing a louder and angrier Jack Crawford. I think its purposeful so he doesnt look like the CSI character he finished playing.
Hugh Dancy is absolutely killing-it with Will Graham. His performance is emmy worthy, and hes doing a fantastic job with all thats asked. A unique opportunity to be able to play the hero, villain when "imagining", and victim all at the same time.
Mikkelson is ok and safe as Lecter. When he's not having to play him so guarded I think he will be able to show more.
This show is a cut above normal tv. Its a true horror show though, and not for everyone. If that doesnt bother you and you like quality, then this is must see television. I hope they follow this thru the three books, and beyond what Harris wrote. I trust in their ability to finish the Lecter story better than Thomas Harris himself.
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One of the best shows on TV. It gets better and better each episode.
Im just starting season 2, and that opening scene between Lector & Crawford was awesome, and of course they leave us hanging!
I think I figured out what led up to that scene, but Ill have to wait 11 weeks to find out. bastids
Im just starting season 2, and that opening scene between Lector & Shephard was awesome, and of course they leave us hanging!
Talk about a killer opening to the season. I think its an interesting idea to begin a flash-forward of what will happen in the near future. I think we'll see Hannibal's therapist Bedelia play a role in his downfall.
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Godoggo
03-18-14, 11:30 PM
I hope so. She needs more screen time. I love the way Anderson plays her. Almost kind of creepy, but in a way that you want to learn more about her and what goes on in her head.
I hope so. She needs more screen time. I love the way Anderson plays her. Almost kind of creepy, but in a way that you want to learn more about her and what goes on in her head.
Yeah Gillian Anderson is exceptional in her role, and I was surprised. Her portrayal of Lecters psychologist reminds me of Robin Wrights in House Of Cards. Seemingly cold, emotionless, but deep reasons for it.
Gillian Andersons scene with Dancy in the asylum was "everything". :)
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Oh my gosh this episode was off the hook! So much stuff happening I dont think a second was wasted. They are moving this story along at rapid pace.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAbWmjUyhhs
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This show just keeps upping the ante each episode. Brilliant episode, especially the final scene. Beverly is probably heading the way of sushi I'm afraid.
This show just keeps upping the ante each episode. Brilliant episode, especially the final scene. Beverly is probably heading the way of sushi I'm afraid.
What a white knuckler the last episode was! This may have been the best episode yet of the series.
Im wondering how far Fuller is wanting to take Lecter. With 7 seasons, and with a lean brisk pace he could cover thru Red Dragon, Lambs, and Hannibal. They could take it beyond Hannibal which I think is a story that must be told as it would be the last one. To anyone thats read the last book Hannibal, there is no way in creation the FBI would ever let that go.
Nevermind I found an answer to my own question, and its real good news :)
From Wiki -
Fuller plans for the show to run for seven seasons: the first three consisting of original material, the fourth covering Red Dragon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Dragon_%28novel%29), the fifth The Silence of the Lambs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Silence_of_the_Lambs_%28novel%29), the sixth Hannibal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_%28novel%29), and the seventh an original storyline resolving Hannibal's ending.[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_%28TV_series%29#cite_note-14) He wants to include other characters from the book series (such as Jame Gumb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Bill_%28character%29) and Clarice Starling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarice_Starling)) provided that he can get the rights to them from MGM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer).[15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_%28TV_series%29#cite_note-15) Franklin Froideveaux and Tobias Budge were created because Fuller could not secure the rights to The Silence of the Lambs characters Benjamin Raspail and Jame Gumb.[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_%28TV_series%29#cite_note-16) Fuller has also stated that even though they tried to get the rights to Barney Matthews, an orderly at the Baltimore State Hospital, they were denied usage rights. A character based on Barney will appear in the second season.[17] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_%28TV_series%29#cite_note-17)
Another great episode of Hannibal tonight. Glad they brought back a certain person thought dead.
Did anyone watch Hannibal?! Who was that Jack Crawford found?!
Nevermind. I looked it up.
They got some explaining to do!!!!
Genius episode! A definite must-watch. Is everyone still watching this?
Absolutely. I just usually end up watching it a few days after air and don't always remember to come back and say something.
In this case there was a local tragedy and a news special about it, so it aired at 3:00 AM. I'll probably see it this evening, though.
Absolutely. I just usually end up watching it a few days after air and don't always remember to come back and say something.
In this case there was a local tragedy and a news special about it, so it aired at 3:00 AM. I'll probably see it this evening, though.
It got veeeeery roller coaster like the past 2-3 episodes, but it gets all sorted last night. One of those surprise twists that was in our face the whole time.
Some bad news. Hannibal dropped 27% from its season 2 premiere episode. I doubt now theyll be bringing it back for a 3rd season. :(
I wouldn't be so sure--it dropped worse in season 1, and by the most superficial metrics shouldn't have even gotten a second. But it did, because of a few mitigating factors: first, it's partially financed overseas, which means it's a lot cheaper for NBC than it would otherwise be. Second, networks are increasingly looking at Live+3 and Live+7 numbers (IE: people who watch it on DVR), which help. And for another, it's not like the network's got lots of great options. Nor do networks expect big numbers on Friday.
Also, Fuller said in an interview (http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/hannibal-producer-bryan-fuller-on-cannibal-cuisine-renewal-and-more) that a second season was a foregone conclusion given the foreign involvement, strongly hinting that they had backup options if NBC passed.
I'd say it's about as likely as not to be renewed. Especially as critical opinion has caught up to this show's quality. And I figure each season it lasts makes it a little more likely to keep going, because it brings it another year closer to catching up to Harris' books, which would figure to get a bit more attention. Especially if they ever make it to The Silence of the Lambs.
Granted, a lot of that might be wishful thinking. But the considerations for this show are quite different than most. And NBC's relative struggles have led to them renewing lots of low-rated, critically-adored shows with fervent fan bases (like Community).
Have hope! :)
I'm fairly certain we will get a 3rd season. Ratings are slowly climbing each week. It's an amazing show. I am freaking obsessed with it. I don't miss an episode and I'm on my 3rd trip through session 1. Best thing I have ever seen on network television.
And I figure each season it lasts makes it a little more likely to keep going, because it brings it another year closer to catching up to Harris' books, which would figure to get a bit more attention. Especially if they ever make it to The Silence of the Lambs.
I read where they are getting resistance in being able to use characters from Lambs prematurely.
I know they had to eliminate the Barney character, the big back orderly who was the most hands-on with Lecter.
The Clarice Starling character is up in the air still if they can use it. I noticed by Dr Chiltons death last episode theyre prepared to rewrite in new characters to escape future legal entanglements. Would not be surprised whatsoever if Gillian Andersons character ends up sticking. Itd be good for her career and the show.
Chilton isn't dead. Check Brian Fuller's twitter.
Yeah, and he's talked a fair bit about his long-term plans. I hadn't heard of any rights issues. If anyone finds anything to that effect, please do share it.
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Yeah, and he's talked a fair bit about his long-term plans. I hadn't heard of any rights issues. If anyone finds anything to that effect, please do share it.
Its from September 2013 ...
http://www.craveonline.com/tv/interviews/576433-exclusive-interview-bryan-fuller-on-hannibal-clarice-starling-barney
MovieGal
05-02-14, 11:49 AM
This season had some great episodes. I truly loved them. There were so many shocking scenes. One great addition they have had for the past two episodes is Jeremy Davies. I loved him as Dickie Bennett in season 2 of "Justified" and his character on "Hannibal" is just as great.
I hope the continue the "Hannibal" series. I will definitely be watching.
This series is challenging its own credibility with the latest arc. It's starting to go waaaaaaay out there.
I assume there's more to it than we know right now. Or at least, I hope so, because otherwise, yeah, too far afield for me. But I'm pretty confident that part of what we're seeing is a trick to gain Hannibal's trust.
Well Im convinced now because of how they tried to oversell it with the Wil & Freddie scene.
Unlike the Thrones thread I read all 3 of the Harris novels. They are paying homage to the books, and changing them at the same time. How Wil ever captures Hannibal is a HUGE departure from the novels. That's ok though as the end result usually's the same, and more importantly they do it well.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS (http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/nbc-renews-hannibal-for-season-3).
(Hannibal renewed for a third season.)
MovieGal
05-09-14, 03:40 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS (http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/nbc-renews-hannibal-for-season-3).
(Hannibal renewed for a third season.)
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So happy it got renewed, NBC would have made the biggest mistake ever by cancelling this fantastic show.
Given that they just cancelled Community it might have been the second biggest mistake ever.
So many different feelings.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS (http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/nbc-renews-hannibal-for-season-3).
(Hannibal renewed for a third season.)
Ack! I was rushing to post this and you beat me to the punch! lol! So glad I could take bite out of somebody. :)
Godoggo
05-09-14, 11:17 PM
I assume there's more to it than we know right now. Or at least, I hope so, because otherwise, yeah, too far afield for me. But I'm pretty confident that part of what we're seeing is a trick to gain Hannibal's trust.
I'm pretty convinced that's what it is. Will has said some things that would suggest that is the case.
Awesome episode. Best one in awhile. :up: Things are gonna get wild with these last two to air.
Has anyone got hungry watching this show? Ive eaten ice cream while watching Hannibal, but thats about it. Dont think he could screw that up. He puts blood in beer! In beer! They pay as much attention to Lecters cooking as the gore. His preperations, and the display of the dishes is jawdropping over the top everytime lol! Anyone eaten pigs feet while watching the show? :)
Austruck
05-12-14, 11:02 AM
Chilton isn't dead. Check Brian Fuller's twitter.
This confuses me. We saw Chilton shot in the head right in the police station. No?
What I found interesting about killing off a character like Chilton was that it gave me an all-bets-are-off feeling. I had been assuming nothing would happen to Chilton because he's in the later story of The Silence of the Lambs.
This confuses me. We saw Chilton shot in the head right in the police station. No?
What I found interesting about killing off a character like Chilton was that it gave me an all-bets-are-off feeling. I had been assuming nothing would happen to Chilton because he's in the later story of The Silence of the Lambs.
Fuller has taken alot of incidents from the book, and is putting a new coat of paint on them. Another scene where Wil is dreaming talking to the dark antlered Lecter who is chained to a tree, the chain ready to be pulled by a reindeer. Thats from Hannibal Rising but tweaked considerably. Freddie on fire rolling down the parking lot ramp is tweaked too.
Chiltons been disemboweled on one occasion and shot in the back of the head now. If they do say he's still alive all he has to look forward to is ...
...getting eaten by Hannibal.
poor basterd
Austruck
05-12-14, 12:29 PM
(sigh) So that scene may have been one of Will's strange altered states? Why did I not pick that up? (Perhaps because we haven't seen hide nor hair of Chilton since that episode!) I know the show is sometimes a little blurry on the lines between reality and mind games, but I remember that scene as clearly not a mind game... because I had that internal monologue about Chilton not dying until much later in the canon/story.
Wow, I may have to rewatch that episode and see then... but it's a bit disingenuous to have Chilton just fall off the character map ever since then. Where the heck is he, and how much of all that stuff was actually real? Is he just still in prison then? (sigh)
The way Fuller talked about it, it was more of a "hey, people sometimes survive getting shot in the head." I don't think the altered state thing would be the explanation. Nor should it be (too much of a cop out).
So far they've done a good job of keeping their twists relatively "fair."
MovieGal
05-12-14, 07:19 PM
Has anyone got hungry watching this show? Ive eaten ice cream while watching Hannibal, but thats about it. Dont think he could screw that up. He puts blood in beer! In beer! They pay as much attention to Lecters cooking as the gore. His preperations, and the display of the dishes is jawdropping over the top everytime lol! Anyone eaten pigs feet while watching the show? :)
I watch it Saturday mornings on Hulu. Im not eating at the time but I don't think I could. There have been a few episodes that make me cringe while watching.
MovieGal
05-12-14, 07:30 PM
Yeah the I believe it was the first episode of season 2 where the bodies were laid out in on the morgue tables and they were discussing which organ was removed from which body and as they went thru each one, Hannibal was cleaning and preparing it. That was a bit disgusting.
When he prepared Dr Gideons leg, and then would pour the sauce on in marinating it BLEAH! :sick::laugh:
MovieGal
05-12-14, 07:35 PM
When he prepared Dr Gideons leg, and then would pour the sauce on in marinating it BLEAH! :sick::laugh:
Didn't he roast it in clay to seal in the juices?
Oh I think youre right because they were making talk about it when unwrapping it. Must have been a different leg.
Austruck
05-12-14, 08:08 PM
Must have been a different leg.
For some reason, this struck me as hilarious.
Now we're losing track of whose leg he was roasting and how he marinated it. :)
This show does make me want to stick to my pleb diet of hot dogs, cheese sandwiches, and Spaghetti-Os.
Austruck
05-12-14, 08:12 PM
The way Fuller talked about it, it was more of a "hey, people sometimes survive getting shot in the head." I don't think the altered state thing would be the explanation. Nor should it be (too much of a cop out).
So far they've done a good job of keeping their twists relatively "fair."
Ehhh, I think the "people survive shots to the head" is a bit of a copout too. At least, the way they shot that scene. And, if you're going to shoot a character at close range in the head and then NEVER MENTION HIM AGAIN for many episodes, surely you realize viewers are going to assume he's dead... and RIGHTLY SO.
Because surely the characters we follow around each week (you know, the ones who weren't shot in the head) would have had a few conversations about the state of dear Dr. Chilton if he weren't dead. I know we're not privy to every conversation among all these people, but leaving out any mention of Chilton by any of them since that scene seems a bit of a cheap copout of its own.
And if anyone then says, "Well, of course he's not dead -- he's alive during Silence of the Lambs timeline," I'll call foul then too.
Harrumph. :D
My two cents.
Ehhh, I think the "people survive shots to the head" is a bit of a copout too. At least, the way they shot that scene. And, if you're going to shoot a character at close range in the head and then NEVER MENTION HIM AGAIN for many episodes, surely you realize viewers are going to assume he's dead... and RIGHTLY SO.
Because surely the characters we follow around each week (you know, the ones who weren't shot in the head) would have had a few conversations about the state of dear Dr. Chilton if he weren't dead. I know we're not privy to every conversation among all these people, but leaving out any mention of Chilton by any of them since that scene seems a bit of a cheap copout of its own.
And if anyone then says, "Well, of course he's not dead -- he's alive during Silence of the Lambs timeline," I'll call foul then too.
Harrumph. :D
My two cents.
Well, dont be too set in stone on this I say. Ive read the 3 Harris novels on Lecter, saw the films (except Rising, didnt read that one either), and am glad theyre going away from the original source material, and let me tell you why.
Thomas Harris had 3 great novels in him - Black Sunday, Red Dragon, and Silence Of The Lambs. Hannibal read like contrived crap. The studios thought so too, wanted to change the ending, and Jodie Foster walked.
Brian Fullers way of taking the 4 seperate Hannibal novels, and making them one long flow is incredibly more impressive than making everything fit for authenticity. For instance the ground work laid by Fuller in how Hannibal so deeply brainwashed/hypnotized FBI agent Miriam Lass is making the final of the Hannibal novel more authentic (wont tell in case you dont know). His tweakings are selling the story better than the original source. Imo.
MovieGal
05-12-14, 09:46 PM
Oh I think youre right because they were making talk about it when unwrapping it. Must have been a different leg.
No it was his leg... Hannibal cut it and braised it.. then wrapped it in some type of leaves then packed it in clay to roast it.
Austruck
05-12-14, 10:18 PM
Well, dont be too set in stone on this I say. Ive read the 3 Harris novels on Lecter, saw the films (except Rising, didnt read that one either), and am glad theyre going away from the original source material, and let me tell you why.
Thomas Harris had 3 great novels in him - Black Sunday, Red Dragon, and Silence Of The Lambs. Hannibal read like contrived crap. The studios thought so too, wanted to change the ending, and Jodie Foster walked.
Brian Fullers way of taking the 4 seperate Hannibal novels, and making them one long flow is incredibly more impressive than making everything fit for authenticity. For instance the ground work laid by Fuller in how Hannibal so deeply brainwashed/hypnotized FBI agent Miriam Lass is making the final of the Hannibal novel more authentic (wont tell in case you dont know). His tweakings are selling the story better than the original source. Imo.
Oh, I'm not saying they shouldn't change the source material. I'm saying that, if Chilton turns up alive and the excuse is, "Of course he's alive because he's in Silence of the Lambs," I'm going to be miffed.
The scene where he's shot in the head looks pretty much like he wouldn't have survived it. Like nobody would have. But Yoda's saying Fuller's Twitterfeed indicates he's alive. I shouldn't have to find out about plot developments by following a show executive's Twitterfeed.
All indications from the show itself are that Chilton died in that police interrogation room. Whatever excuse they use to tell us he's still alive is going to feel like just that to me: an excuse. Maybe not to others... but to me it will.
Oh well. Enough said on that topic.
Let's get back to the braised leg. What spices do you think he used? I'm looking for good Crock Pot recipes.... :D
Well, it wasn't a Twitter feed, and he didn't explicitly say he was alive--he was just really coy about it (he referenced Serpico, for example). I think he's leaving it as a possibility.
I don't love it, and I hope they don't play it that way, but I also wouldn't get too upset. I think at this point we've all decided to accept a heightened reality in watching the show.
Austruck
05-13-14, 01:42 AM
I'll just be miffed for a second... depending on how it plays out if he's still alive. :) He IS a good character to keep around -- one of the few who believes Will.
I pointed out the twitter feed. This is the tweet: https://mobile.twitter.com/BryanFuller/status/455490739737477121
Fuller is changing the original stories or tweaking them, but the end result is kept the same. The point is hes telling an incredibly fun seven season story with visuals unmatched,and strong acting. Has there ever been a tv series with better visuals than Hannibal? Seriously Im asking.
I have no idea how theyre gonna wrap the season up. I only know that its gonna be wild, and we will want more.
Im hoping beyond hope that this one makes it, but how can I be confident? :(
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MovieGal
05-17-14, 12:55 PM
I http://www.izmailonline.com/_ph/3/2/641985129.gif this show!!!!
Last night's episode was f'ing AMAZING! I seriously hope they can stay on the air long enough for all 7 seasons. I really, really want to see the return of Mason.
And no, I have never seen a show quite like this. For such grotesque subject matter, it is absolutely beautiful. I love the colors. It's like watching a moving painting. This is the finest thing I have ever seen on network and it's right up there with some of the premium cable options. For once NBC gets kudos for pushing the envelope and bringing us some truly great television. Anthony Hopkins is a fantastic Lecter, and it may be blasphemy, but Mads is taking over this role and I just love watching when he is on screen.
Season finale tonight! My prediction is somebody's gonna die.
MovieGal
05-23-14, 02:58 PM
Season finale tonight! My prediction is somebody's gonna die.
Ok Tongo, you know I dont get to watch it until Saturday morning.... can we hold off on any comments until then..... please??
:(
Ok Tongo, you know I dont get to watch it until Saturday morning.... can we hold off on any comments until then..... please??
:(
Dont worry Gal that wasnt a spoiler as much as an obvious guess (joke). ;)
The best season finale Ive seen in years. They even had an easter egg after the credits.
MovieGal
05-24-14, 12:36 PM
The best season finale Ive seen in years. They even had an easter egg after the credits.
Tongo, I have to agree. A great season finale. I cant wait for season 3. The network has pressed their ability very far this season. Will they continue to push farther? and will they be allowed to continue the gruesomeness?
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I'm a bit let down, to be honest. Very little was explained. When and how were Jack and Alana fully convinced of Hannibal's guilt? Alana fought the idea all year long, and we just jump right over that? This has been a lingering, patient show that's focused heavily on people's feelings, motivations, and decisions, so it seems bizarre to jump past this. I can appreciate a slow-burning, deliberate story, but not if all that pondering means you have to rush past major developments later.
Also, in retrospect, I don't think showing us the fight between Jack and Hannibal really added anything. And what exactly was the plan/purpose with Abigail? Everything seem designed to just pay off in the moment, but then you've gotta double back and justify the choice.
And while I can appreciate a good cliffhanger, it does feel a little cheap to set things up so literally all or none of the characters at the end (save Abigail) could either be dead or alive next year.
Part of me would admire it if they killed them all off and started fresh, though I don't think they will and hope they don't. I think Will's definitely alive, but that's about it.
Still a great show and a great season, and plenty of great moments, but I think there were some significant missteps here.
Well heres how I saw it...
After the Dr Chilton arrest and shooting Jack and Alana knew something was up. They just knew Dr Chilton was incapable regardless of the evidence. This opened Jack to what Will had been saying all along. Pretty dang sure the scene of Will and Jack fishing was after the Chilton incident.
Was glad to see Jack Crawford be suspended and there was an arrest warrant for he and Graham. I was thinking in the back of my head "This is b.s." during some of their theatrics this season. A stab at authenticity is better than nothing.
I knew Abigail Hobbs was alive all along. In the books, I think it was "Hannibal", Lecter remembers back to a Abigail Hobbs which the FBI were convinced he killed when in fact he just cut off her ear so they could find it to come to that deduction. In the books he had got her a new identity and they ended up pen pals.
Now in the books Alana Bloom dies, and its the one act Hannibal thought which destroyed any chance of friendship between he and Graham. Mind you the Abigail Hobbs, and Alana Bloom references were just that in the books, not even a paragraph or more to encapsulate their stories.
So how Fuller changed things is have Abigail Hobbs be the one he kills and destroys the Will/Hannibal relationship instead of Alana (YES! She lives! :))
As for why Hannibals psychiatrist did a 180 and was in allegiance with him, I have no idea. Nice touch though.
Austruck
05-24-14, 01:54 PM
I dunno. I think I'm with Yoda on this one, re. the 180-turnarounds for Alana and Jack. Frankly, when those things came up last night, I panicked and thought I must have missed an entire episode or two because it felt like a complete jump for both of them. I never was convinced that I HADN'T missed an episode until reading Yoda's comment above.
As for Gillian Anderson's character doing her 180: Well, in the very, very strange scene a few episodes ago where she is in an interrogation room talking -- with that creepy, stilted, I-look-and-act-like-I'm-CGI acting -- she did talk a LOT about how Hannibal manipulates people, even to the point of making them want people dead that HE wants dead, including people they care about. She's very convincing about just how adroit he is at luring people to his side.
So, either she changed her mind *after* that interrogation room scene and went back to Hannibal (and I do hope they show us how that all went down in season 3), or she had never left his side of things and was putting on a strange and eerie show in the interrogation room.
My first thought at the end of the episode was that they were certainly going to save a LOT of money on salaries in season 3. :)
Well Im just not understanding the perception that Jack and Alana did a 180 in the final. There is no evidence that changed their mind, but gut hunches that were shown in prior episodes.
Alana was suspicous of Will Graham. Then Will put a loaded gun in her hand for her own protection. Right then I think she opened her eyes some. Then when Dr Chilton was the supposed killer she, like Will, just blew it off as pure nonsense. When she saw Freddie wasnt dead and under FBI protection all doubts were gone.
Jack Crawford on the other hand just didnt believe Dr Chilton capable. There was no evidence that proved Chilton wasnt the killer, and tons that he was.....just like Will Graham when he was accused. The fact that everything was on such a display and so easily found made Jack suspicious. He had a conversation with Graham just the episode before how he was hanging his neck out on this.
Well Im just not understanding the perception that Jack and Alana did a 180 in the final. There is no evidence that changed their mind, but gut hunches that were shown in prior episodes.
She was totally on Hannibal's side, and in the finale, she totally believed he was evil. When did that happen? What did we see to suggest this was happening?
Im just describing the scenes that were in prior episodes.
She wasnt totally on his side for 2 eipisodes or so. Her first doubts started the episode Hannibal smelled the gunpowder on her.
There were 2 things I did not like about the final...
Why would Hannibal kill Abigail?! It was purely contrived. He went at lengths to make it appear she was killed, and eaten by Graham. Like in the books, he simply cut her ear off and made sure she bled all over. Then he hid her away, but in the series he kills her in front of Graham. Why?!
The only reason I could think of is a creatively void one, they wanted to kill Abigail off instead of Alana. In the books Alana dies thereby gaining Grahams undying hate, but Hannibals captured. The series Hannibal isnt.
Why would Graham warn Hannibal with a call? The same call with wordage Hannibal made to Hobbs. Theyre definitely making Hannibal out to be the mind bender breaker swayer. So at the last minute Graham decides to warn Lecter because theres a warrant out for his and Jacks arrest.
As Im writing this Im remembering Graham warning Jack (I think the episode before the final) that Hannibal will try and kill him, and in the kitchen even. So that was really Grahams & Jacks hail mary attempt to make him act. Ok maybe 1 thing I didnt like then.
aaronnz
05-24-14, 10:54 PM
I saw a couple of episodes but never really got interested in it mostly because I haven't seen it from the start.
Alana was turned when the Freddie plan was revealed. The scene of showing her that Lounds was alive is all we needed to fill in the gaps. That being a "shock" scene for the viewer implies that there is an obvious conversation as to Jack and Will's plan. It's not a great leap from there to see her turn on Hannibal. One of the things I admire about the show is that nothing is really dumbed down for us. Heavy dialogue and fairly intricate plots with enough story for us to fill in the gaps on our own. WE fill in the gaps for Alana turning, to allow for other scenes, rather than showing us 10 minutes of Alana being convinced Hannibal is evil.
Lecter and Abigail: Lecter is probably the smartest serial killer in all of tv and movies. I believe Abigail is kept alive for two reasons. 1, he sees a new pupil in her to mold. 2, it is essentially the same thing Jack and WIll did with Lounds. Hannibal likes to make sure he has options. The moment he smells Lounds' hair on Will he knows it is all over and in order for him to survive he has to get rid of Abigail. Part of it is his own anger at Will's betrayal. He thought he had someone he could really be friends with, so what does a serial killer do when his heart is broken? He kills everyone and walks out the door.
My bets for who lives and dies: Will and Jack live. Fuller has never strayed too far from the story we all know, so in order for the Red Dragon/Silence of the Lambs/Hannibal story lines to remain intact those two have to survive. Alana dies, because she believed a little too late and she slept with Hannibal. Abigail dies (fairly obvious, although in a finale interview Fuller joked that she survived having her neck cut before. I still think she dies though. there is no longer any need to have her in the story).
That's my $.02
Why would Freddie being alive convince Alana that Hannibal was evil?
The unseen conversation that would happen after she sees Freddie alive is where she would learn of a lot of stuff. There is no way she sees Freddie alive and doesn't ask questions. Jack showing her Freddie is alive would inevitably lead to him telling her he and Will's plan. At the very least it would lead to them giving her enough information to have doubts of Hannibal's innocence.
But what could she possibly learn in this unseen conversation that would persuade her? All it shows is that Will faked Freddie's death. Not only is this not evidence against Hannibal, but it's really evidence that her view of Will--that he's kinda losing it and become obsessed--was correct. And he had a plan before, too. Not only did that not convince her, but it's pretty much exactly what drove her into Hannibal's arms in the first place.
I'm fine with shows skipping over exposition that we can easily fill in ourselves, but I can't think of anything to fill in these gaps with. What new information or evidence does Will actually have to show her?
Will doesn't show her. Jack does. I just went back and verified it in Ko No Mono, the conversation leading up to Jack showing her Freddie is alive shows she is starting to doubt. She's a strong woman who doesn't want to believe she's misjudged someone so poorly especially since she's a psychiatrist. It is fairly safe to assume that Jack would be able to convince her as he's a pragmatist without Will's issues. There would definitely be a conversation after Jack shows her that Freddie is still alive, there's no way a woman of her intelligence is just going to let that go. And IMO if Will is able to convince Jack, then Jack should be able to convince Alana.
I don't really get what you mean by things like "she would have questions" or "there would be a conversation." Of course she would have questions--I'm asking what the answers could be. It's not like Freddie being alive would convince her just because it's shocking, even though it doesn't implicate Hannibal in any way. It's not like they're fighting over a gun and we can say "and in the ensuing scuffle..."
I think you're right when you say "Jack convinced her." That's probably what the show wants us to conclude, but that seems to validate the criticism, because we're not given the slightest idea of how he might do that.
I've been inclined to forgive a lot of the more over-the-top elements of this show, because that's what it is, and always has been. To watch it is to accept that. But it's also been almost exclusively about what motivates people, and who they believe, and why. It's been downright obsessed with exploring motivations, so to suddenly skip right over a major change of heart feels really odd.
She went to Grahams house. Why?! If she thought he really killed Freddie Lounds then why would she? Why accuse him to his face? There was a time she thought Lecter innocent, but I think Alana Bloom being a psychiatrist, being so close to all the circumstances, and being in a relationship with Hannibal opened her eyes in itself. When Graham put the gun in her hand she mentally freaked a little because a killer just wouldnt.
So youre right that they didnt show the beginnings of her doubts until the porch scene with Graham, and they didnt show any epiphany on Jacks part either other than he was unconvinced how it all went down with Chilton.
When it came out Graham was innocent then they both started listening to him is my guess.
MovieGal
05-27-14, 11:43 PM
I found this to be an interesting article about the 2nd season and its finale.
http://boingboing.net/2014/05/25/hannibals-last-supper-mizu.html
Check out the gag reel. Just as funny as last year:
http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/07/24/hannibal-season-2-gag-reel/
This bit works exceptionally well on a a show like this, which is so deathly serious.
MovieGal
03-17-15, 09:01 PM
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/af/ef/4b/afef4b64ca55a92a31a507e002aff6c1.jpg
Returning June 4, 2015
Cool, thanks for posting that!
While I was still pretty let down by the end of last year, it's still a really good show, and it's easy to imagine it taking The Leap at any point (though I thought/said the same thing after season 1). And it sounds like it'll be very different from the previous two seasons, for obvious reasons. So yeah, certainly looking forward to it. :)
MovieGal
03-17-15, 09:25 PM
Are you kidding? the fight between Jack and Hannibal was awesome.. but then it shows Mads' ability. If you want to see him fight again... watch "Valhalla Rising"... Im sure that is not a stunt double.
Really need to get this watched. Still only watched the first 3 episodes, and I have my friends copy of the First Season in my house so I have no excuses. While i did enjoy the episodes i watched it failed to grip me, but my friend said it gets alot better in the Second Season. Would everyone here agree with that out of interest?
MovieGal
03-17-15, 09:31 PM
I think its well done. There are some things in the show that are a bit shocking for mainstream TV.
http://img2.tvtome.com/i/u/e849ddc7a4f240cec07f1a6475ed1af6.jpg
http://badassdigest.com/_uploads/images/hannibal_mushrooms.png
http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/CkNMQ2igHAqhkZ75X8kRSw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/tv/2014-02-10/e0825750-920f-11e3-b06a-0b4567eea64e_hannibal-5-angel.gif
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a5/9b/69/a59b69cd050b10a209db853f34d127f8.jpg
http://media.tumblr.com/94f4c6b3556554feb17f6bb704ede056/tumblr_inline_n2ti6qYwZh1qbqv0l.png
MovieGal
03-17-15, 09:33 PM
This is from season 2. Mason Verger
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140518124348/villains/images/8/86/Mason_Verger.jpg
Really need to get this watched. Still only watched the first 3 episodes, and I have my friends copy of the First Season in my house so I have no excuses. While i did enjoy the episodes i watched it failed to grip me, but my friend said it gets alot better in the Second Season. Would everyone here agree with that out of interest?
Honestly, its not an exact retelling of the first three novels, and they've changed some minor stuff out of necessity (copyrights), and for creative (they still havent caught Hannibal). Give it a watch as its still better than most of the stuff out there that you watch. I suggest one episode a day as its sooooo dark and gorey.
MovieGal
03-17-15, 09:35 PM
I enjoy the fact that is dark and gorey and well... you all know the other reason I watch it.... He makes the perfect Hannibal... the quiet type.... as stated in my signature by Mads.
Honestly, its not an exact retelling of the first three novels, and they've changed some minor stuff out of necessity (copyrights), and for creative (they still havent caught Hannibal). Give it a watch as its still better than most of the stuff out there that you watch. I suggest one episode a day as its sooooo dark and gorey.
Thanks for your response. I've never read any of the Hannibal books so i doubt that will bother me. Honestly i've had no problems with the content so far, from the images Movie Gal posted the Fungus Episode which i believe was the 2nd or 3rd was my favourite. It does seem to be one of or possibly the most championed shows, since Breaking Bad finished; that as well as the fact that it's one of my friends favourite shows makes me want to continue with it.
I enjoy the fact that is dark and gorey and well... you all know the other reason I watch it.... He makes the perfect Hannibal... the quiet type.... as stated in my signature by Mads.
Am i remembering correctly that you actually think Anthony Hopkins was a better Hannibal MG? :eek:
MovieGal
03-17-15, 09:44 PM
Yes Anthony Hopkins is the best... but Mads is next behind... not a fan of Brian Cox's Hannibal from Manhunter.... but lets see what season 3 brings....Mads may surpass Hopkins.
Yes Anthony Hopkins is the best... but Mads is next behind... not a fan of Brian Cox's Hannibal from Manhunter.... but lets see what season 3 brings....Mads may surpass Hopkins.
I hope Anthony Hopkins does a guest spot one episode. Probably no shot in hell of that happening, same with Jodie Foster. They are beyond tv.
MovieGal
03-17-15, 10:49 PM
I hope Anthony Hopkins does a guest spot one episode. Probably no shot in hell of that happening, same with Jodie Foster. They are beyond tv.
Jodi couldnt be Clarice tho... due to copyrights..
Get Julianne Moore in then :p
MovieGal
03-17-15, 10:52 PM
Get Julianne Moore in then :p
There are certain characters in the "Hannibal" series that NBC cant use due to copyright issues... I know Clarice is one...
MovieGal
05-11-15, 03:00 PM
The countdown is on....24 days left until season 3
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/211/0/7/hannibal__3_season__poster_by_renietmeyer-d7sxdm4.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kN7fhWnhdM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obBhQ1o2doU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ43CcdhifY
MovieGal
05-11-15, 03:25 PM
A Korean trailer for Hannibal Season 3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=21&v=W_Dc_NALVl4
MovieGal
05-11-15, 03:27 PM
Character additions and changes..
Most recently adding Zachary Quinto and True Detective‘s Glenn Fleshler as Cordell, personal physician to Mason Verger (Joe Anderson, replacing Michael Pitt), we also know of Hannibal Season 3 that Gillian Anderson has been upgraded to series regular. The Hobbit star Richard Armitage, True Blood vet Rutina Wesley and Nina Arianda will play Red Dragon characters Francis Dolarhyde, Reba McClane and Molly, respectively, while Raul Esparza will return to the role of Dr. Frederick Chilton, and Eddie Izzard could return to the role of the late Dr. Abel Gideon as well.
Additionally, Batman vs. Superman and The Wolverine star Tao Okamoto has been confirmed to play the role of Chiyo, attendant to Hannibal’s “aunt” Lady Murasaki.
MovieGal
05-11-15, 07:00 PM
San Diego Comic Con 2014 - Hannibal Panel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B19ws2yVps
Season 4, we finally get Clarice Starling!
MovieGal
05-12-15, 06:01 PM
Some updates for Season 3
http://www.latinpost.com/articles/52824/20150512/hannibal-season-3-news-season-split-in-two-second-half-%E2%80%93-hannibal-gets-arrested.htm
gbgoodies
05-15-15, 11:53 PM
Do These ‘Hannibal’ Season 3 Cast Portraits Reveal Who Survived the Bloody Finale? (PHOTOS) (http://www.rickey.org/hannibal-season-3-photos/281088/)
Read more: http://www.rickey.org/hannibal-season-3-photos/281088/#ixzz3aGZTCCSL
MovieGal
05-16-15, 01:59 PM
The title of the first episode of Season 3 has been released along with a few photos
Episode 3x01 - Antipasto
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Praise for Hannibal!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kikJDnFevME
MovieGal
05-22-15, 01:37 PM
Hannibal - First Look at Season 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pNXLmDdrL0
Richard Armitage season 3. Dolaryde.
I've only seen two episodes and I usually dislike dark stories so I keep wondering if I should dive in. I really love Richard Armitage, though, and am a bit fascinated by him being in it.
But.. why is Hannibal the only NBC show that I know of that I have to pay for? I have netflix -- no. Xfinity on Demand -- not free. It's weird.
I'd watch but I don't want to pay for it. I pay enough!
MovieGal
05-23-15, 08:02 PM
Richard Armitage season 3. Dolaryde.
I've only seen two episodes and I usually dislike dark stories so I keep wondering if I should dive in. I really love Richard Armitage, though, and am a bit fascinated by him being in it.
But.. why is Hannibal the only NBC show that I know of that I have to pay for? I have netflix -- no. Xfinity on Demand -- not free. It's weird.
I'd watch but I don't want to pay for it. I pay enough!
No clue why you have to pay for it. I have NBC local station and I see it for free, or I can at least. I have other things to do on Thursday nights so I have Hulu Plus and watch it there.
On Hulu and On Xfinity, there are only three episodes. It's wierd, I just can't see the seasons for free. On Xfinity, it's $29.99 for a season..
I can watch season 3 for free, yes, but I'm having trouble watching the previous ones.
MovieGal
05-23-15, 08:17 PM
On Hulu, they show them the day after. After the season is completely over, they only show the last three on there. Have you tried NBC's website? You can usually watch them there. I have both Seasons on DVD to watch them any time. (Just like having most of Mads' films on DVD, Danish and English ones)
MovieGal
05-23-15, 08:19 PM
On Hulu, they show them the day after. After the season is completely over, they only show the last three on there. Have you tried NBC's website? You can usually watch them there. I have both Seasons on DVD to watch them any time. (Just like having most of Mads' films on DVD, Danish and English ones)
http://www.nbc.com/hannibal/video
MovieGal, I'll check out NBC's site.
Bryan Fuller said he thought new fans could start with season 3 since it will be different a little. What do you think?
MovieGal
05-23-15, 08:20 PM
MovieGal, I'll check out NBC's site.
Bryan Fuller said he thought new fans could start with season 3 since it will be different a little. What do you think?
Look above, I posted the link for you.
MovieGal
05-23-15, 08:21 PM
Season 3 will be different. Fans can start watching it but my suggestion, watch all the episodes in order. That way you have a better understand of Hannibal and Will's relationship.
MovieGal
05-26-15, 10:23 PM
The most recent promo video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMP3hI6DKRQ
MovieGal
05-27-15, 08:51 PM
Recent article in Fangoria
FANGORIA: What’s the most exciting aspect of returning to HANNIBAL for season three?
MADS MIKKELSEN: The excitement for any TV show coming back to something is always that we do not exactly know what it is. There’s always been a tendency to stir things up in the third season of a TV show; to try to create something new based on what we have. The first two seasons are always going hand in hand. Everybody knows that the third one is probably going to be slightly different. It has been the case on this one. Its exciting to see your friends and your colleagues and then just see what Bryan Fuller has stirred up, which is complete madness this time.
FANGORIA: What exactly was different this time?
MIKKELSEN: We have not had a lot of intimate conversations; it’s been a little more outgoing. Maybe a little more liberated. There are some crazy characters, and some crazy things are happening, so that’s been a change.
FANGORIA: Can you tell us something about Hannibal’s relationship to Will, because it seems to be different than in previous seasons?
MIKKELSEN: Will is always a tricky thing, because in many ways that was the ultimate ending of our relationship in the second season. To try to figure out how can they go on from there has been a challenge of course, but in Will’s world, it’s double sided, right?
http://www.fangoria.com/new/return-of-the-dragon-mads-mikkelsen-on-hannibal-season-three/
Interesting discussion by Bryan Fuller regarding rape on television and how he doesn't want to show it on Hannibal (a discussion about Game of Thrones is here):
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/28/hannibal-rape-thrones
MovieGal
06-01-15, 01:49 PM
Just 3 more days!
Season 3 Premier Preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tlloRKNTfw
MovieGal
06-01-15, 02:00 PM
Interview with Bryan Fuller about Hannibal Season 3
http://www.denofgeek.us/tv/bryan-fuller/246575/bryan-fuller-interview-hannibal-season-3-red-dragon-american-gods
MovieGal
06-04-15, 09:15 PM
Tonight is the night!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6s3kJo63do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMf4iwsSaug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHoJbpt1hhM
doubledenim
06-04-15, 09:20 PM
I figured someone would be excited. I always laugh when thinking of Mads in the Pusher movies.
Enjoy.
MovieGal
06-12-15, 03:39 PM
So two weeks into Season 3 and I can say its been beautifully well done.. very artistic and the music is great.. again Mads Mikkelsen and Hugh Dancy's outstanding performances like always.....
Im just ready for it to pick up a bit more...
A few of the recent magazine articles and photos..
http://mads-mikkelsen.net/gallery/albums/scans/2015/TV%20Guide/May%2029/normal_001.jpg
https://richardarmitageblog.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/scifi.jpg?w=640
http://www.scifinow.co.uk/tag/hannibal/
http://mads-mikkelsen.net/gallery/albums/scans/2015/Entertainment%20Weekly/May%2029/normal_001.jpg
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/02/hannibal-interview-bryan-fuller
and a new book that has hit the shelves!
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41S3DQ4mdfL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg
MovieGal
06-12-15, 03:43 PM
great quote from last night's show.. Will Graham talking to Abigail Williams
"God can’t save any of us because it’s inelegant. Elegance is more important than suffering. That's his design."
"You talking about God or Hannibal?"
"Hannibal’s not God. Wouldn't have any fun being God. Defying God, that's his idea of a good time."
MovieMeditation
06-12-15, 03:45 PM
I have the first episode of season 3 ready to go, but I haven't got around to it yet... Too much I need to see. And too much I need to do.
I tried, I cannot do it. This show just creeps me out. I don't even know if I can watch Richard Armitage when he shows up and I am a fan of his…. :(
Am I the only massively disappointed with season 3 so far? I really fell in love with the show during season 2 and was hugely looking forward to it coming back but so far it just hasn't happened for me.
I know it's always been pretty arty (certainly by TV standards) but so far I think it's just going too far in that direction (for my personal tastes) and flirting with being pretentious. To me it feels like it's disappearing up its own backside! Don't get me wrong, it's still beautiful to look at but it's just soooooo slow. It feels like it can fill 5 minutes with nothing but a character walking around and only uttering a single sentence.
I'm really hoping it can win me back round
MovieGal
06-20-15, 11:44 AM
Im not disappointed with the show at all. I find it highly artistic this season which might not be the way to go with this type of story. I understand they are just on episode 3 and Hannibal has done a few killings so far but they are not brutal or intense killings. I have never read the books so Im not sure if they are following the books. I will continue to watch it but I hope it moves a bit faster and does not lose its viewers. That will be certain downfall if it does.
Derek Vinyard
06-22-15, 06:21 PM
NBC just canceled Hannibal after three seasons :S
Sorry fans
It's gone. It's all... just... gone!
MovieMeditation
06-22-15, 06:43 PM
Haven't even begun on season 3 yet, but I'm sad to see it go. I loved season 2!
MovieGal
06-22-15, 08:38 PM
yeah I just noticed my email from a Mads Mikkelsen fan site
Hannibal” won’t live to see a fourth season: NBC announced the cancellation Monday.
Currently in its third season, which premiered June 4, the drama will finish up its entire 13-episode run in the same 10 p.m. timeslot Thursday nights this summer, wrapping up on Sept. 3, with the season-three finale serving as the series ender.
Created by Bryan Fuller, “Hannibal,” which debuted in spring 2013, stars Hugh Dancy, Laurence Fishburne, Caroline Dhavernas, Gillian Anderson and Mads Mikkelsen as Dr. Hannibal Lecter.
“We have been tremendously proud of ‘Hannibal’ over its three seasons,” the network announced in a statement. “Bryan and his team of writers and producers, as well as our incredible actors, have brought a visual palette of storytelling that has been second to none in all of television — broadcast or cable. We thank Gaumont and everyone involved in the show for their tireless efforts that have made ‘Hannibal’ an incredible experience for audiences around the world.”
Fuller commented: “NBC has allowed us to craft a television series that no other broadcast network would have dared, and kept us on the air for three seasons despite Cancellation Bear Chow ratings and images that would have shredded the eyeballs of lesser Standards & Practices enforcers. (NBC entertainment president) Jen Salke and her team have been fantastic partners and creatively supportive beyond measure. ‘Hannibal’ is finishing his last course at NBC’s table this summer, but a hungry cannibal can always dine again. And personally, I look forward to my next meal with NBC.”
Though critically acclaimed with a rabid fanbase, the series has been ratings-challenged from the start, and it hit a series-low 0.5 rating in adults 18-49 with the two most recent episodes to air. Those two episodes averaged a mere 1.65 million viewers overall.
Worth noting that this doesn't necessarily mean it's done. Not good news, but I wouldn't be at all shocked if someone else picked it up.
AdamUpBxtch
06-22-15, 10:42 PM
Yeah with the critical reception it gets I wouldn't be surprised if another network picks it up. I hope it gets picked up or this is like me with Dexter and The Mentalist all over again (I started getting into those shows and they ended them both)
Worth noting that this doesn't necessarily mean it's done. Not good news, but I wouldn't be at all shocked if someone else picked it up.
Doubtful. The core fan base might not be big enough to intrigue another network. This season is brilliant or overdone at times, depending on the scene. Sometimes too much crafty banter is too much. Really was impressed with the Abigail twist in episode 2. Damn shame its gonna be gone.
MovieGal
06-22-15, 11:00 PM
Yeah with the critical reception it gets I wouldn't be surprised if another network picks it up. I hope it gets picked up or this is like me with Dexter and The Mentalist all over again (I started getting into those shows and they ended them both)
at least Bryan Fuller will give a final close.. not just leave us hanging... like some shows do...
Starting 3rd epeisode and have to remark on the consistently stunning viuals throughout the series. It doesnt fall apart over time either, a trick David Lynch couldnt pull off this long with Twin Peaks. Yes, Hannibal is better than Twin Peaks. I should say Was better. Damn shame a show of this quality is discarded. Just a gut punch to great taste (pun intended ;))
MovieGal
07-03-15, 12:10 PM
http://d.mnrdaily.com/full/409/hannibal.jpg?w=760&h=760&l=50&t=40
Visuals are spectacular, the dialogues become way overdone. They should do the psycho-philoso-babble in small doses, that way it'll have an effect.
Interesting how theyre skipping SOTL entirely, and going straight to events in 3rd book.
They should try and pitch this series to Netflix or FX.
ScorseseFanboy
07-13-15, 02:31 AM
Mads Mikkelsens Hannibal tops Anthony Hopkins..
MovieGal
07-17-15, 04:50 PM
I am so pissed at NBC!!! They moved "Hannibal" to Saturday nights!!!!
Derek Vinyard
07-17-15, 07:30 PM
They said they probably gonna do a movie about it since the TV-Show is cancelled...
MovieGal
07-26-15, 07:13 PM
This week is called "The Great Red Dragon".. F**K YEAH!!!!
Mr Minio
01-02-16, 07:28 PM
WTF I watched the second season in two days. What's wrong with me, watching TV series instead of movies.
HUGE Hannibal fan. Haven't read the whole thread yet but good to see it on the board. Loved this show so much but I think it ended well. That finale was great. If it gets picked up by another network - great, but I'm not holding my breath.
CosmicRunaway
02-04-17, 08:46 PM
I loved Hannibal. From the very beginning, I thought the visuals were beautiful and loved the atmosphere. Hugh Dancy and Mads Mikkelsen were great, though it did take a few episodes for me to get used to Mads as Hannibal, since it was so different from Brian Cox and Anthony Hopkins' performances.
I binge watched the entire series in January of last year. I'm pretty sure it only took me a week. Hours were scarce at work, and I was completely enamoured with the show. I've been wanting to rewatch it for awhile (particularly since I played Will in Suspect's Survivor game), but I'd like to talk at least one of my room mates into watching it with me, to force me to watch it at a more reasonable pace haha.
I loved the finale, and would actually rather the show didn't find another way to produce season 4.
Im really hoping Mads Mikkelson and especially Hugh Dancy get a serious rub from their work on this series.
Oh, and Caroline Dhavernas too :love:
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CosmicRunaway
02-04-17, 08:55 PM
Has she been in much since/before Hannibal? I don't think I've ever seen her in anything else. Apparently she's Canadian though! All the cool people are Canadian. :cool:
Has she been in much since/before Hannibal? I don't think I've ever seen her in anything else. Apparently she's Canadian though! All the cool people are Canadian. :cool:
She was in a series by the same guy that did the Hannibal series before this called Wonderfalls. I only saw the pilot.
Its different. ;)
I loved the finale, and would actually rather the show didn't find another way to produce season 4.
I kind of feel the same way. I won't be upset if it gets renewed by someone else, but I was so thrilled with that wrap up. The DoP who took over from Hawky did a great job with that scene towards the end. And the music. Wow. Sometimes I will just have a rewatch to lose myself in the score.
CosmicRunaway
02-04-17, 09:44 PM
I just googled Wonderfalls.
Its different. ;)
You can say that again. :eek:
And the music. Wow. Sometimes I will just have a rewatch to lose myself in the score.
Definitely! That song that played during the final scenes was hauntingly beautiful.
I need to stop thinking about Hannibal now before I start watching it again haha.
Yeah the song was great. I just really like the composer because I have a thing for world music and he uses a lot of asian styles. I think he's a musical genius. I wouldnt play the score at a dinner party but it sure is amazing work.
Elessar
04-23-17, 02:26 PM
@Dani (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=9776): I have finished ep 2 S1. I often watch horror movies but this series have already crept me out. Mike is excellent in his role, he felt like an iceberg with only the tip visible. Hugh Dancy, oh where was the romantic boy in The Sleeping Dictionary or the bisexual sleek guy in Savage Grace? His vulnerable but not over the top character is a perfect contrast to the doc.
By the way, the doc's red berry sauce looks too much like fresh blood. I wonder if anybody can dress blood up to taste like berry sauce, since the 2 things are quite different...?
Pretty creepy show, El. To this day I cant believe what the creatives at NBC let Bryan get away with. Mike - do you mean Madly Mads? Yeah he's superb, and the real life friendship he and Hugh have is evident in the onscreen chemistry. Hugh's portrayal of Will annoyed me initially but he finds his rhythm a few episodes in.
Did you notice the nod to The Shining? Very nicely done. I think it's in ep 2 that the first killer is revealed. It;s a blink and you miss it line.
The food. Oh lordy lordy the food. The super fans had a lot of fun coming up with theories on how the good doctor makes certain things to ensure sheeple body parts were used; we experimented in our kitchens with making dishes (sheeple free), and waxed lyrical about how he brewed his beer. Hilarious stuff. Some of the creepiest scenes for me were the fast edits from a kill to him in his kitchen. Made me physically ill to the point Hannibal day was food free day. I dont know why the thought of cannibalism freaks me out soooooo much when sheeple is just another protein. No, nup, not on your life am I ever eating sheeple.
Season 2 has a killer of the week format. NBC wanted a police procedural and Bryan refused, so he compromised. Season 2 the creatives give him more control, then season 3 they obviously told him to do whatever he wanted as long as he didnt show T&A. 3 Quite different seasons, and each finale wraps up the season.
I was the annoying superfan who posted faux outrage each season that Will is a dog thief, stealing dogs from the side of the road and not getting them checked for microchips or putting up found posters, never picking up their poop. I sucked unsuspecting newbies in every single year. Fun times. Yes, Hannibal brought out my inner child. Oh and I upset a lot of people when I said Mads doesnt know how to use a knife and fork, can do absolutely anything except swim, and Lawrence Fishburn has obviously never used chopsticks before. I miss those days.
LOL. I just skimmed through episode 2. The glorious mushroom garden. I completely forgot about that then cooked mushrooms the next day for brunch. Took a mouthful and the scene hit me. I ran down the hall screaming. Mr D fell apart laughing.
Elessar
04-23-17, 05:21 PM
lol
The mushroom garden scene is the worst in ep 1 & 2 for me. Because it looks so real.
I made a silly decision of eating my dinner in front of the screen while watching the show. I thought it would stimulate my appetite. Oh boy.
I hope, at least, the egg scramble he offered Will at their first meeting is not human's.
I love that you have started watching this, El. I get excited about talking about it all over again. The rights to Silence of the Lambs are up for grabs in August so it will be interesting to see if Martha and Bryan make a grab for it. If it gets picked up, it's still a long way off for a future season 4.
Anyway, by now you know who the Copycat Strike is but I'll put this in spoilers incase you have inspired any other viewers to watch this stunning production. The reason why that particular girl was chosen and why her lungs were removed was left on the cutting room floor because they ran out of time to work it in to the episode.
she blew smoke in Hannibal's face and he found that extremely rude
The first killer is
Dolarhyde. I dont know if you're familiar with the books or movies but he is Red Dragon who appears in the second arc of season three. There is no tie back to the pilate because once again, they rn out of time to work it in, and Bryan didnt think it was necessary. The clue that it's him was mentioned in Will's lecture theatre. He bit and sucked on his victims
This is the nod to The Shining. Not spoilery, but just a bit of visual fun.
http://i.imgur.com/8UwldaX.jpg
The red bathroom Bryan had made. I cant remember if the green is a set or if they used an art deco hotel, but that comes up in a later episode. Stunning bathrooms.
In the out takes for Lawrence's scene he warned the boom operator who was up a ladder it was going to be LOUD lol. He frequently scared the poop out of cast and crew with that magnificent voice.
lol
The mushroom garden scene is the worst in ep 1 & 2 for me. Because it looks so real.
I made a silly decision of eating my dinner in front of the screen while watching the show. I thought it would stimulate my appetite. Oh boy.
I hope, at least, the egg scramble he offered Will at their first meeting is not human's.
LMAO. Not a wise move. 1. you will miss tiny details and 2. you will vomit.
ehehehe the breakfast dish contained home made sausages. I also theorised that the egg itself was brain dyed with saffron or turmeric. I actually experimented with that. Watch the looks on Mads' face whenever someone compliments his food.
LMAO. Not a wise move. 1. you will miss tiny details and 2. you will vomit.
ehehehe the breakfast dish contained home made sausages. I also theorised that the egg itself was brain dyed with saffron or turmeric. I actually experimented with that. Watch the looks on Mads' face whenever someone compliments his food.
Uh...
Uh...
I used a sheep brain, not a sheeple brain. No humans contaminated my beautiful kitchen and utensils.
By the way, it didnt work. The sheeple was in Hnnibal's sausages. He makes a lot of them.
OK here's an interesting tidbit for episode 4 - not spoilery. NBC claimed they banned the ep which is incorrect. Bryan asked for it to be pulled at that time due to the climate in US over a then recent spree shooting, but that it would be available in the box set and on line. NBC also claimed that it was unimportant for continuity. This is also blatantly incorrect. Something happens (a very short scene) in that episode which directly ties in to a later episode. Skipping it mkes no difference to continuity as long as the viewer watches it before the finale.
Also, what do you think of Freddie Lounds and Beverley?
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I got to admit, the first five, I think, episodes of Hannibal dragged for me. I wasn't feeling the "killer of the week" format, though I did like the correlation between the cases and Will's relationship to Abigail.
I wasn't hooked until the maybe the last two episodes of season one. The stylish murders kept me onboard, though.
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I got to admit, the first five, I think, episodes of Hannibal dragged for me. I wasn't feeling the "killer of the week" format, though I did like the correlation between the cases and Will's relationship to Abigail.
I wasn't hooked until the maybe the last two episodes of season one. The stylish murders kept me onboard, though.
At the time a lot of viewers said it dragged for them until atleast episode 6 so you're not alone. I was hooked from the opening scene because it was just so beautiful, and i thought that stunt man was unreal. That was not cgi, poor guy. Infact I dont think they used much cgi at all - too exy for such a low budget show (which looks a lot more exy than it cost)
Killer of the week format is not my thing because I think it's done to death (HA! no pun intended), so I enjoyed the show more when it tapers off. I didnt dislike it but was just happier without it.
I'm totem poling. HA! You'll remember that line in an upcoming episode.
Here is the food stylist's blog. Very interesting and fun read, even with little details about how some of the cast are vegetarian but Mads is a huge carnivore so she had to make the same dishes with meat and no meat yet have them look the same.
http://janicepoonart.blogspot.com.au/2013/04/i-was-having-bit-of-trouble-with-re.html
A topic came up one day during season 1 or maybe hiatus about what season two banquet theme would be. I said kaiseki and started posting photos. Well blow me over with a feather, what was season 2 clled? Yup. Kaiseki. Now either Bryan nicked my idea, which is perfectly fine by me, or I was so in his head I read his mind.
One more. Not spoilery.
Hannibal's living room nd library
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Will's living room and library
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Hannibl's bedroom
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Will's bedroom
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A wee bit different.
Elessar
04-24-17, 04:05 AM
Yeah, I forgot to mention the dogs. I would want a room full of puppies like that. I can see how Will feels safe and loved among them, which is not obvious with sheeple.
The show does seem dragged for me too, but that's the same with every series' beginning that I have watched, no exception.
Freddie Lound? Oh I hate her and her screen presence. I generally hate sticky tabloid writers, they are a leech on your skin that you can't shake off.
The copycat murderer, since when Will said that it was not the original murderer, I knew right away who that was. Maybe also killer instinct inside me? :p
Freddie is the bitch from hell. Gee she has nice hair though.
Random comment of the day - the kids in œuf look familiar. I'm sure one of them is in Captain Fantastic.
Elessar
04-25-17, 07:29 AM
Have I watched it? I don't remember any kid in egg.
Otherwise, I like Captain Fantastic and think I can remember all the kids' faces.
Have I watched it? I don't remember any kid in egg.
Otherwise, I like Captain Fantastic and think I can remember all the kids' faces.
episode 4 - hve you seen that or did you go straight to Coquilles? 4 has a couple of kids in it.
The kid in 104 I think is in Captain Fantastic is the dark headed rebellious kid who 'hates' his dad in CF. Totally irrelevant comment - just thinking out loud.
Elessar
04-26-17, 05:50 PM
episode 4 - hve you seen that or did you go straight to Coquilles? 4 has a couple of kids in it.
The kid in 104 I think is in Captain Fantastic is the dark headed rebellious kid who 'hates' his dad in CF. Totally irrelevant comment - just thinking out loud.
I haven't seen any more ep since then, i.e. still at the end of ep 2. Waiting for the weekend to catch up.
I like that the eps are named by French dishes, and very sophisticated dishes at that - Amuse-Bouche, Potage,...
Give them a new meaning when I eat at restaurants now.
Oh right, I'll stop commenting on future eps then. I got ahead of you.
Yes french banquet for 1, japanese banquet for 2, nd Italian banquet for first arc of 3.
Elessar
05-01-17, 05:38 PM
I finished ep 3. The pace is sure quicken up and I like it. I'm not really into psychology, since there is already too much of it in real life.
No dining scene this ep :(
I'm really curious to see what happen next to Abigail, the daughter. The "revelation" scene between Abigail and the doctor, where she realized that the doctor was murderous, was dead intense.
I finished ep 3. The pace is sure quicken up and I like it. I'm not really into psychology, since there is already too much of it in real life.
No dining scene this ep :(
I'm really curious to see what happen next to Abigail, the daughter. The "revelation" scene between Abigail and the doctor, where she realized that the doctor was murderous, was dead intense.
Bryan Fuller actually wanted to be a psychologist so he has a stack of books on the subject.
It was intense, wasnt it. Things sure get a lot more intense every time you see the good doctor as episodes progress. He's a very serious man, with very serious hair.
Elessar
05-21-17, 04:16 PM
I finished ep 5. The dynamic between Will, Jack and the doctor was amusing to watch. Will knew that the doctor was pushing him but couldn't resist it. Luckily at the end of the ep he came back to Jack. In reality I would be very careful with that kind of "friend" (the doctor): they understand you, but they seem to use it to their own purpose. That's much worse than a straightforward enemy.
1 ep for 1 killer is too short for me. I mean, they don't have time to build up sophisticated villains.
Plenty of gourmet courses so far. I wonder where did the foie gras come from. If you feed a human 6 burgers/day, would he develop foie gras?
Is that the angel maker episode?
As for his foie gras, he has a humane butcher LOL
Elessar
05-21-17, 05:02 PM
Yes, it was the angel maker ep.
The premise of the butchered angel and twisted faith was so dang promising to me, but then they had to wrap up the episode quickly and move on.
Yes, it was the angel maker ep.
The premise of the butchered angel and twisted faith was so dang promising to me, but then they had to wrap up the episode quickly and move on.
Good episode. Did you notice with how gruesome it was that you couldn't see their butts? The NBC creatives told Bryan he couldn't show ass so a Fannibal came up with the idea to cover them in blood. How silly is that. Flayed alive - OK. Nude bum - evil.
I agree the monster of the week is too short. Bryan didn't like that demand either. It peters out in season 2 and he gets freedom to do what he wants in season 3.
Still early days so not getting my hopes up but looks like Bryan hsnt given up on chasing season 4
http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/810726/Hannibal-Season-4-Bryan-Fuller-Mads-Mikkelsen-Hugh-Dancy-Return-Spoiler-Keen-New-Episodes
Elessar
06-10-17, 04:57 PM
I've watched ep 7. So Doc was the Chesapeake ripper? Who was that insane doctor Gideon in jail? This ep was really entangled it was hard to guess who was who.
Lots of organ cooking. I must say his baked heart looks great.
The opera scene must be the most gruesome inside-throat scene I've ever seen. Stuff of nightmare, even more than the butchery.
I hope it'll get season 4. 3 seasons would be too short for this brilliant show.
Yeah, I remember the tangle that came the ripper's identity. Worked as an incentive to revisit the season, though.
Boy, did I hate Dan Fogler in this. Sadly that translated to when I watched Fantastic Beasts.
Without giving anything away, you'll be surprised by how neatly the show wraps. There's a desire for more, sure, but I wouldn't be against this being finite.
OMG Saunchy, I loved Dan as Franklin, the lactose intolerant, snivelling little ponce. That scene with the tissue was hilarious. Hannibal almost had him on his knees begging for one, then when he dropped it on the side table LOL! I love Michael Jackson and cheese.
El, Dr Gideon is was of my favourites. He is a returning character right through. The beautiful Eddie Izzard. How do you get your whites so white.
Elessar
06-11-17, 07:29 AM
I love Dan as Franklin too, he was so cheesy I feel like the Doc will break his neck any moment (which he did, eventually).
Ep 9. Is violin seller the ripper now? He did take people's gut to make his violin strings. I feel delightful confused. The idea of making instruments from human guts is indeed gross.
Will had his first kiss in the show, finally. I've been waiting sooo long for these 2 to make out.
Oh no, not Abigail Hobb again. I don't like this character because all she did was stare & whine & flinch. Her scenes feel like forever. Her acting is over the top too.
Sauch: I had no problem with Dan in Fantastic Beasts, but that movie was ruined by Depp, and everybody else (except Dan and the Queenie girl). I couldn't even stand Eddie Redmayne in it, though normally he was my favorite actor.
Ooh, I don't remember enough of how that bit went to answer your question.
Maybe I should just start re-watching it.
Eddie Redmayne is the worst.
Ep 9. Is violin seller the ripper now? He did take people's gut to make his violin strings. I feel delightful confused. The idea of making instruments from human guts is indeed gross.
I'll keep this as brief s possible.
No
Abigail was never a fan favourite. I liked her but not sure if it was the character or actress I liked.
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Dear sweet Franklyn, the clingon
Ooh, pretty promising news
http://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/bryan-fuller-confirms-talks-hannibal-tv-revival-underway/
Yep that's the best we can do. I just wanted to see if Martha got the rights to SotLambs which is up for grabs this month
Wow. I wasn't really holding out hope at all. Great news, potentially.
Wow. I wasn't really holding out hope at all. Great news, potentially.
Either was I, and I was more than satisfied with season 3 finale, but if the cooking gods align and he can get the rights, bring cast and crew back without the contract hurdles, and get picked up, I'm on the man meat train. Choo choo.
I didn’t want to start a new thread, since I doubted there’d be much discussion, but David Fincher’s Mindhunter (Manhunter) on Netflix plays a neat relative to this.
Basically Hannibal by way of Zodiac.
I didn’t want to start a new thread, since I doubted there’d be much discussion, but David Fincher’s Mindhunter (Manhunter) on Netflix plays a neat relative to this.
Basically Hannibal by way of Zodiac.
I just saw the trailer. Looks coldly unnerving.:up:
It’s very good so far (4 episodes in). Fincher can do this in his sleep. Holt McCallany really holds the show together. I’m not sure if I like Jonathan Groff’s performance, though.
The interview in ep.2 is a real highlight.
It’s very good so far (4 episodes in). Fincher can do this in his sleep. Holt McCallany really holds the show together. I’m not sure if I like Jonathan Groff’s performance, though.
The interview in ep.2 is a real highlight.
I'll see if we can get the premiere for tonight. Thanks for the headsup - I hadn't heard of it.
Oh it's already been picked up for a second season. Promising.
I need something tense to replace ozark which I'm about to finish binge rewatching
Anna Torv looks so much like Carrie Coon in this that it scary.
Anna Torv looks so much like Carrie Coon in this that it scary.
I've never heard of her and she's aussie :(. Really attractive.
Wow. Thanks so much for this, Saunch. First episode was great
colour palette- check
direction - wooooo this really grabbed me and despite the first review I saw saying the pace is of a snail and nothing happens I disagree
score - retro without being ott and slap in the face
acting - no problem with it although Goff's character is a personality free zone so far, but I found will graham the same first few episodes and he grew on me.
Kemper is a standout. He is so subtly charming I can believe someone like that would become a charismatic. I havent seen Cameron in anything before but he's really impressing me
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Try to explain this image to someone who doesn’t watch Hannibal -
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The Kemper scenes were great. Played like a “best of” for Fincher, even in the episodes he didn’t direct.
I finished it over the weekend. Groff dragged it down, unfortunately.
Fortunately, everything else was running at full potential. Cliffhanger is chilling.
Try to explain this image to someone who doesn’t watch Hannibal -
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The Kemper scenes were great. Played like a “best of” for Fincher, even in the episodes he didn’t direct.
I finished it over the weekend. Groff dragged it down, unfortunately.
Fortunately, everything else was running at full potential. Cliffhanger is chilling.
LOL. Even better, explain to them why Mads was very ill after that shoot finished.
We've only seen 3 so far. Letting this drag out for our enjoyment.
I forgot to mention that the end of the opening scene in the pilot had me scream. LOL Such a great reaction. Mr D is still laughing at me.
Loved this scene. That actor is so on point
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Nice outfit.
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Yeah the wardrobe in that show was stunning. Who can make a night robe look like it belongs on the red carpet.
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Alana’s super villain look was great.
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Alana’s super villain look was great.
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I thought so but she was absolutely crucified in the fndom for the style change. god some people just love to whine.
I also loved Bedelia's style change. I fell in love with that frosty woman.
The subject matter and the aesthetic allowed them to get funky with the wardrobe, yeah. I think once or twice Hannibal was in what was basically a purple suit, but with the muted tones, it didn't look particularly bizarre. Lots of splashes of color in that show, but usually brought down to match everything else.
Probably the prettiest show in television history, as over-the-top as that sounds.
It's a very pretty show, and imo gave a low tier budget show a cinematic look.
I found that peacock suit quite bizarre. Meeting a man wearing that would make me think he cooks people on his days off.
Blue and green was the palette . Very easy on my eye which made the gore look stunning. Gave me a Cook, the Thief vibe, especially because it constantly looked like the dutch msters art period. This is my preferred palette so it was always going to lull me in, but I found it so relaxing from the pilot. Even in the outdoor scenes for the horrible cnadian winter that threated to freeze Mads and Will to death I felt warm.
SeeingisBelieving
10-23-17, 04:08 PM
Nice outfit.
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That is nice.
I would wear this
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SeeingisBelieving
10-23-17, 04:15 PM
Gave me a Cook, the Thief vibe, especially because it constantly looked like the dutch msters art period.
That was a great-looking production. I suppose it was similar in concept to what John Boorman did in Point Blank, controlling the colour palette in scenes which echoed the feel of a black and white film.
SeeingisBelieving
10-23-17, 04:18 PM
I would wear this
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Also very nice. You wouldn't fancy Mads' dressing gown ;)? I like the white piping.
Gave me a Cook, the Thief vibe, especially because it constantly looked like the dutch msters art period.
Case in point:
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SeeingisBelieving
10-23-17, 04:20 PM
That's clever as well because it almost looks lit only by the lamps and the candles. The BBC's Wolf Hall attempted to light night scenes only with candles and I think it worked out very well.
Also very nice. You wouldn't fancy Mads' dressing gown ;)? I like the white piping.
I would roll in Mads' night robe like a delerious puppy. Unfortuntely it would be a wee bit stinky because Mads is a chain smoker.
Gideon's as well
https://i0.wp.com/www.popculturebeast.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Gideon-and-Hannibal.gif
LOL is Dr Lecter telling Abel there to get completely blotto?
An attempt at assurance.
Man, did the Phantom Thread trailer get to me? Suddenly it’s all wardrobes.
SeeingisBelieving
10-23-17, 04:33 PM
I would roll in Mads' night robe like a delerious puppy. Unfortuntely it would be a wee bit stinky because Mads is a chain smoker.
Yeah, not good :p.
Gideon's as well
It would be funny if
the meal had matching napkins
An attempt at assurance.
Man, did the Phantom Thread trailer get to me? Suddenly it’s all wardrobes.
LOL I havent seen that thread.
Wardrobe now, corpses later. Hey a guy in sydney was pulled over for traffic violations yesterday and he had a dead guy on the back seat. He said he thought he was just having a nap. Pretty creative way to scoot through the transit lane, hey!
The lovely Laurence never looked so stylish
http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/cleolinda/1427760/495980/495980_600.jpg
Hate the soul patch.
Everything or nothing, Jack!
Yeah, not good :p.
It would be funny if
the meal had matching napkins
LOL I'm not surprised it didnt. The food stylist couldnt even teach Mads to use a knife and fork continental style. Lulz I had a lot of fun bringing that up every time Hannibal put something in his mouth and fangirs would have a melt down, much like saying Will was a dog thief. Three years I dragged them on.
SeeingisBelieving
10-23-17, 04:38 PM
The lovely Laurence never looked so stylish
He had some good outfits in The Matrix, though more unearthly.
He had some good outfits in The Matrix, though more unearthly.
Yes he did indeed.
The Vergers had style.
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Yes, even Mason, The pineapple headed freak.
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The lovely Laurence never looked so stylish
http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/cleolinda/1427760/495980/495980_600.jpg
Or been as inadvertently funny:
https://i.imgur.com/QwmfNHU.gif
Wife and I reference this all the time.
The Vergers has style.
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Yes, even Mason, The pineapple headed freak.
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I freaking loved Mason and his martinis of bby tears
http://37.media.tumblr.com/64f689de89187b92100abd2e16d453c0/tumblr_n4zcmot7Aw1r43s4qo4_r1_250.gif
So sad when he sliced his beautiful face off.
SeeingisBelieving
10-23-17, 04:43 PM
Hate the soul patch.
Everything or nothing, Jack!
I liked Dennis Farina as Crawford, especially when he gets menacing :).
Oh yeah I loved the use the ladies' room line. Laurence felt the need to whisper a warning to the boom operator just seconds before. I laughed so hard. Then there's another scene where he barks at the male lab rats and Scott said he peed his pants. Poor love looked like he was having a heart attack.
Amazing voice.
SeeingisBelieving
10-23-17, 04:47 PM
Yes, even Mason, The pineapple headed freak.
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Flipping heck :). So we've got an Eraserhead homage and then The Cook, the Thief, His Wife and Her Lover:
https://i.imgur.com/QwmfNHU.gif
Flipping heck :). So we've got an Eraserhead homage and then The Cook, the Thief, His Wife and Her Lover:
Lots of homages to film. Bryan is a massive movie geek. The Shining bathrooms, nod to the work of geiger, Cronenberg.
I'm having a nerd gasm.
SeeingisBelieving
10-23-17, 04:48 PM
Oh yeah I loved the use the ladies' room line. Laurence felt the need to whisper a warning to the boom operator just seconds before.
Ah, doing a Gary Oldman :D.
SeeingisBelieving
10-23-17, 04:51 PM
Lots of homages to film. Bryan is a massive movie geek. The Shining bathrooms, nod to the work of geiger, Cronenberg.
I'm having a nerd gasm.
I think for the sheer amount of references to other films and programmes, the comedy Spaced probably claimed the prize for it.
I’m really sort of glad the show didn’t get much exposure so only a select few can do Verger impressions instead the internet going full-Bane with it.
Ah, doing a Gary Oldman :D.
I think Michael Pitt and Joe Anderson did a Gary Oldman better. ;)
SeeingisBelieving
10-23-17, 04:59 PM
I think Michael Pitt and Joe Anderson did a Gary Oldman better. ;)
Isn't it funny – I wasn't even thinking about his association with this universe. He's good like that is Gary. You forget it was him under the prosthetics :).
I’m really sort of glad the show didn’t get much exposure so only a select few can do Verger impressions instead the internet going full-Bane with it.
I think Michael Pitt and Joe Anderson did a Gary Oldman better. ;)
Yes, infact not having seen him in nything before this I thought Joe had a bit of a lead there.
Awwww anything is forgivable when a mn has a bebe pig called Pavlov
https://31.media.tumblr.com/c0d8076874c56b44e2427bf92f816104/tumblr_n50034tfKG1ru4mh7o2_250.gif
“Spitters are quitters, and you don't strike me as a quitter.”
“Spitters are quitters, and you don't strike me as a quitter.”
Hilarious line as usual
Watching Hannibal the movie yet again and trying to love it. I've never understood why I kept falling asleep in this other than I didnt ever like the casting of Moore as Clarice, anyway, I digress. I never noticed that when Mason called the sardinian pig farmers for a demonstration over the phone there was one lone pig on the roof dancing. Had to pause to try to find the gif but alas. Maybe some good samaritan know where to find it for larfs. I wonder if they had to put him up there
I also noticed this for the first time which blows the mind of a hat nerd.
https://acollectivemind.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/tumblr_nopywspad41s3h6j4o7_400.gif?w=302&h=201
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1015000/images/_1015007_silence300.jpg
I'm going to assume that was chosen by Martha as a nod to her husband.
Hannibal: The Movie’s biggest problem is that it wants to be a generic crime thriller instead of a big budget giallo.
Also, and I say this with much respect to the man, Hopkins was waaaaaay past his Hannibal prime. :(
Great hat:up:
Beautiful looking movie which is all I hve going for it, but Hannibal is a bit of a clownish tool. He speaks in that in an out of character way that annoyed me.
One thing I did love was tracking down his stationery. I bet he sent that on purpose, not that I would be surprised if he was so up himself he wouldnt stoop to using stationery of the common pig. It was probably also sent as a little flash to clarice to get her attention.
Silence of the Lambs is truly unique in how it blended the trashier elements of the story with an Oscar caliber production. Jonathan Damme’s directorial background informed that.
It was also the only movie in which Hopkins’ Lecter was actually threatening. After that he’s just an old guy with a Kat Hepburn accent.
Fun fact: Gillian was considered to play Clarice in Hannibal 2001.
Gillian Anderson for the movie? Tht old grub Dino probably declared her too unsexy for the role like he did to Jodie.
Hmm, Gillian Anderson or Julianne Moore? I think I understand Buridan's ass.
SeeingisBelieving
10-25-17, 11:49 AM
It was also the only movie in which Hopkins’ Lecter was actually threatening. After that he’s just an old guy with a Kat Hepburn accent.
Well yeah,
Fun fact: Gillian was considered to play Clarice in Hannibal 2001.
Oh that is interesting. Might have worked. I think the thing was that Julianne Moore had already worked with Hopkins. Perhaps he thought the existing familiarity would help since she was taking over from Jodie Foster.
SeeingisBelieving
10-25-17, 11:52 AM
Hmm, Gillian Anderson or Julianne Moore? I think I understand Buridan's ass.
Well it's Julianne Moore for me :).
My favorite Lecter “what if” is that Michael Mann wanted William Friedkin to play Hannibal in Manhunter because he thought he was genuinely crazy.
Well, that and I think Dave Lynch was offered one of the movies.
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