The Avengers Assemble

[Pyro Tramp]

1) Joss Whedon has pulled off a seemingly impossible job successfully handling a huge ensemble, where no character feels sidelined or wasted and no single character hogs the spotlight
2) Sam L Jackson needs to stop pretending 'L' is his real initial, when it's 'BAMF'
3) It treads the very Whedon line of serious character driven stories and light-hearted humour very well, with some genuine laugh out loud scenes without ever falling into self parody
4) HDS cameo was the highlight, a nice surprise in a film that's promos revealed a lot of it's cards
5) Scarlet Johansens ass looks even more fabulous in 3D
6) (spoilerish) Whedon's penchant for killing secondary characters is sadly becoming predictable
7) LIEMAX is a disgraceful exploitation
8) Hulk smash. Ruffalo was a magnificent addition and managed to be the best Hulk of the 3
9) The post-credits scene was a nice lead in to future films, even though no-one seemed to have clue who the chap was, myself included


4_5

I'll post some more thoughts when have some time. So probably never.

[BumbleBee]

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THE AVENGERS
(2012)

Take Marvel's greatest superheroes and throw them all into one movie. Now take some of Hollywood's finest actors and cast them as those said heroes. If you've done this and find yourself excited, eager and intrigued beyond measure - the Avengers is the film for you. Realistically, if you're a fan of previous Marvel titles, or even just a fan of the actors being manipulated together in this explosion of Super-Action Greatness; you're in for a treat!

The Avengers is perhaps one of the most anticipated films over the last two to three years, drawing names such as Downey Jnr. (Iron Man), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury) and Jeremy Renner (Hawkeye) in to even further yet make this film something to look out for. The storyline of the film is simple enough; set up primarily by its predecessors. Loki finds himself traveling to Earth, more bitter, vindictive and cruel than ever with one sole intention; to destroy Earth and take its inhabitants as his servants as he rules over the planet. A war is imminent and growing as the days dawn, and Nick Fury and his beyond secret organization SHIELD have to stop the villainous Loki's plans before it's too late. But this time things are different. This time, Fury needs the help of some of the finest heroes Earth has ever known.

Director Joss Whedon invests a great deal of his Marvel know-how into this film. It's undeniable how brilliant this film is constructed and shot, but more than that, the locations and special effects given the immense overlooking of Whedon are phenomenal. How Whedon decided to set out with an all star cast such as the one he was presented with is beyond comprehensible thought, but by some miracle, the director of this comic-geek tranquil managed to incorporate every single character and actor into the film without making them seem unneeded or pointless in their additions. The essential nature and personal story arcs of the characters are really what make this film, and therefore, the direction and writing of this film have to be commended.

While it may be a given, the acting quality present in this film is sublime. Downey Jnr., Hemsworth and Hiddleston steal the show with their presence and Samuel L. Jackson's much more prominent presence as Fury is a welcomed change. Having the one-eyed director of SHIELD being present throughout the film rather than just appearing sparsely in the middle or at the very end of the credit role is extremely pleasant. Johansson, Renner, Ruffalo, Evans and Clark Gregg (who portrayed Agent Phil Coulson) all bring beautiful, unique and dynamic looks into their characters, and Gregg especially uses his excellent comedic timing and delivery to save the film from some of its more serious moments. A special prideful mention should be given to Mark Ruffalo who had the immense task of making the Hulk his own after the character had previously been played by Edward Norton who had been relinquished of the role. Regardless of the immense pressures, Ruffalo manages to make the Hulk true to the comic books but furthermore, create his own feel for the character so that he's lovable and constantly fitting to the film itself.

The film is by no means short on any scale, pushing for over two hours. While the duration is lengthy, the film itself is constantly entertaining and pleasant to watch - whether it's due to the beautiful scenery, excellent screen presence of the unfaltering stars or the witty dialogue masterfully weaved into the script by the writers. While the film is full of action with a balanced story that doesn't tire before the film comes to a elegant conclusion, it would have been a welcomed addition of the film itself could have received a more mature rating. Whilst, undeniably, this is a false hope, comic book fans (such as myself) can be hopeful for a little more push on the levels of glorious action that are infused into these amazing films.

While The Avengers is not faultless, its entertainment value saves it from anything of minor discrepancy. It's an excellent film to see on the big screen (2D or 3D) and proves to take a step away from some of the more regular-to-average films that may be facing release this year. The Avengers will not only entertain but trigger emotions of a wide array and have you smiling, cheering and clapping in delight at some of it's immaculate action sequences and outstanding special effects.

Well worth assembling with some of your friends at the local theater and giving this one a watch!

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[MovieMad16]

Also saw this today. I'll post a review later.

[Justin]

Seeing it on Monday.

[Powderfinger]

My brother in law and his son, and another kid saw it. He didn't like it that much, though he said "my son and his mate, loved it".

[ElmoLovesYou]

My review (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=807718).

[DexterRiley]

Ok so i watched it yesterday and have been trying to figure out a way to review it without giving too much away. Its the sort of flick that will be fun to discuss once everyone has seen it.

As origin stories go in the comicstomovieverse, I feel comfy sayen its a distant 3rd as i believe Iron Man and batman begins are in a tier unto themselves.

the list i think would go

Iron Man
Batman Begins

The Avengers
Spiderman
Fantastic Four
Hellboy
Captain America-The First Avenger

Darkman
X-men
Thor
Daredevil

The Punisher
Green Lantern
Hulk
Green Hornet


Right off the bat i should mention that Mark Ruffalo was great. I didnt once think of Ed norton whilst watching it, in the same way that i did when Cheadle stepped in for Howard in iron man 2 for instance.

Theres a ton more to say, but again i dont want to spoil anything, except to say the scene with Hulk meeting Thor for the 1st time is effen awesome.

[Matcat]

I watched it last Thursday and again Sunday. Completely blown away by how awesome it was. A great, entertaining and fun movie!

[Masterman]

The Avengers: Assemble

4 out of 10

Well i checked out The Avengers last night at the cinema. Ime not great at reviews or anything like that but i thort i'd give it ago at and give my views of the movie. When i first heard about the Avengers i was thinking Meh, I loved Iron Man, Thor, and The Incredible Hulk, but Captain America and Iron Man 2 i found to be a big let down, i was really dissapointed in Captain America more than anything. I never thort that the Avengers would work with so many Characters trying to get the screen time, when Loki was announced as the villain that threw me completley of the movie. When the Avengers got released the reviews started flooding in ''Best Comic book Movie'' ''Better than the Dark Knight'' ''10 out of 10'' where a few quotes and reviews ive read around the web and magazines..... so now i had to check The Avengers out.

Well ime going to say the best thing about this movie was seeing The Dark Knight Rises trailer at the start of it. Its knowhere close to the Dark knight, its not 10 out of 10 and its not the best comic book movie out there, not even close. I will praise how well all the characters fitted into the movie, tho i think Tony Stark stealed the show with Iron Man. Captain America was the lamest character i've ever seen in a comic book movie and Loki as the Villain did nothing for the movie at all, he just didn't seem a big threat to them at all. The ending of the movie was like a rip off from Transformers 3, tho still very enjoyable and the best part of the movie. The praise this movie has recieved is crazy, i can't understand all the buzz at all, Iron Man was better, Thor was better and so was the hulk.

Overall entertaining, the movie in 3d was great, looked fantastic and the action towards the last half off the movie is great. The Avengers by no means is great tho and certainley doesn't deserve the praise.

[Justin]

Surprised. Given all of the good reviews I thought most people on here would be going crazy for it. Either way, I doubt I'll be seeing it any time soon. The amount of marketing has just about driven me insane.

[DexterRiley]

You know, for those of us old enough to remember cringe-inducingly bad television versions of Captain America and Thor, along with a TV Hulk whose greatest physical feat was ripping his clothes and knocking down doors, it's a a pretty amazing thing to see such classic long-standing superheroes be rendered so faithfully on screen (and on such a satisfyingly appropriate epic scale no less) by top-notch directing and acting talent.

Yes thats right, im pullen out the age card.

also op link to this quote if you would :

When the Avengers got released the reviews started flooding in ''Best Comic book Movie'' ''Better than the Dark Knight'' ''10 out of 10'' where a few quotes and reviews ive read around the web and magazines..

[rauldc14]

Great, great movie and popcorn flick. I'd like to say I think Iron Man and Hulk made the film a great one. As far as comic book movies go, I wouldn't put it at the top, but definitely in the top 5.

[Yoda]

Heh. "Rip-off of Transformers 3"? A good chunk of this movie was based on some of the older comics, ya' know. Dunno if that part was, but it might be. Also, this film was written before the third Transformers film came out.

Not liking The Avengers is potentially understandable...but not liking it because it's not like Batman? To each their own, I guess. I'll try to have a review up this week. Was going to bang one out quickly but I might want to see it again first.

[The Prestige]

Looks like i'll have to go and watch this now since you lot are providing the positive feedback. I had originally planned to avoid at all costs but I guess it can't be less than 3 stars at this point. May go on Orange Wednesday.

[DexterRiley]

Looks like i'll have to go and watch this now since you lot are providing the positive feedback. I had originally planned to avoid at all costs but I guess it can't be less than 3 stars at this point. May go on Orange Wednesday.

i would strongly suggest taking in Thor and Captain America-First Avenger before going to see it if these sorta flicks are outside of your wheelhouse.

The Avengers assumes you have done so. As a stand alone film it makes no sense whatsoever.

[wintertriangles]

Would it be blasphemous to include the Green Lantern in the sequel? I mean, different universes, but any Green Lantern is capable of transcending that kind of barrier right? RIGHT?

What happened to Spiderman? Are they waiting for the reboot to cast him in or something?

[Masterman]

Heh. "Rip-off of Transformers 3"? A good chunk of this movie was based on some of the older comics, ya' know. Dunno if that part was, but it might be. Also, this film was written before the third Transformers film came out.

Not liking The Avengers is potentially understandable...but not liking it because it's not like Batman? To each their own, I guess. I'll try to have a review up this week. Was going to bang one out quickly but I might want to see it again first.


I wasn't comparing it to batman. Local newspaper reviews compared it better than the dark knight so I went in expecting alot, okay maybe I shouldn't have but I just didnt see anything special. Transformers came out first and maybe your right in saying the script was written first for avengers, but I sat watching the end thinking I've seen all this before.

[Skepsis93]

i would strongly suggest taking in Thor and Captain America-First Avenger before going to see it if these sorta flicks are outside of your wheelhouse.

The Avengers assumes you have done so. As a stand alone film it makes no sense whatsoever.

Well that rules me out. Already sat through Thor but I'm not seeing Captain America unless it's against my will. Expect my review for The Avengers in 3-4 years.

[Yoda]

Sony owns the Spiderman film rights.

Frankly, I think Marvel's ownership of only most (but not all) of these franchises might be for the best, at least for now. As good as The Avengers was, it's hard to imagine it packing in more characters without shortchanging some.

[wintertriangles]

Well that rules me out. Already sat through Thor but I'm not seeing Captain America unless it's against my will. Expect my review for The Avengers in 3-4 years.Yep, d/ling exists for the sole reason of things not being worth the money. Thor was a chore and I can't even imagine how worse Captain America will be if I ever see it.

[rauldc14]

I'm pretty sure Green Lantern is DC Comics, though I could be wrong.

[DexterRiley]

I wasn't comparing it to batman. Local newspaper reviews compared it better than the dark knight

kindly post the link, would love to read that review.

but I sat watching the end thinking I've seen all this before.

well yeah its source material is a comic book cannon going back 50 years.

[Yoda]

Yup, he is.

[Masterman]

kindly post the link, would love to read that review.



well yeah its source material is a comic book cannon going back 50 years.

It was a newspaper review, even
Tho that's the writers personal opinion he still got me pumped.

[The Prestige]

i would strongly suggest taking in Thor and Captain America-First Avenger before going to see it if these sorta flicks are outside of your wheelhouse.

The Avengers assumes you have done so. As a stand alone film it makes no sense whatsoever.

I've only seen Thor and Iron Man. Didn't like the latter, but the former was actually alright. Didn't bother watching Captain America but i'm thinking that having seen those other films would be enough to prepare me for Avengers, surely?

[rauldc14]

It does prepare you in a way. I didn't see Captain America before Avengers (actually haven't seen Captain) but I felt he had the least story ties to the movie, though I could be wrong and just didn't catch a lot of it.

I actually just watched Thor today and wish I would have seen it before I'd seen Avengers. There was a lot in that film that would have been useful going in.

I still think Iron Man is the best of the bunch, probably followed by The Avengers itself. Thor and Hulk were entertaining for me, and Iron Man 2 was entertaining but not without its flaws.

[Pyro Tramp]

Thor the only one you really need and an understanding of the characters

[Yoda]

Aye, with emphasis on the word "characters," seeing as how the Captain America movie explains the object that's central to The Avengers.

[Pyro Tramp]

I didn't really see Captain America, in fact watching it tonight. It's seen at the end of Thor, though, isn't it? It was just essentially a MacGuffin. Obviously it's worth seeing them all but I think understanding Loki's the main thing you can't get from any of others and the thing that'll effect your enjoyment the most.

[JayDee]

Absolutely loved it! Just tremendous entertainment. Working on a review just now, should be up sometime tomorrow hopefully

[ElmoLovesYou]

A friend of mine said when he saw The Avengers he said it was boring, it dragged on too long and get this...he fell asleep. LMFAO. I cracked up laughing

[JayDee]

A friend of mine said when he saw The Avengers he said it was boring, it dragged on too long and get this...he fell asleep. LMFAO. I cracked up laughing

Give him a slap!!! :D

And now I'd like to shamelessly plug my review. :p JayDee's Avengers Review (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=809529)

[The Popcorn Preacher]

Meh. it followed the typical structure of any hero film, but it was still very fun to watch oh and do not go and watch it in 3D i did and as usual it did not add anything of any note.

[bouncingbrick]

I loved it. Far better than Thor and Captain America (nothing against those films).

The bit after the credits had me rolling.

[Justin]

I'll be writing a full review later, but to briefly sum it up I'd say I enjoyed it. Definitely a fun, entertaining movie, though ultimately kind of forgettable. I don't think I'll remember it in two days. One of the biggest issues is the lack of story which was all but thrown out the window. Nevertheless, the action was great and Whedon's humor was on-point as always. I'll admit, it was a little disappointing given Whedon's involvement.

3

[Ash_Lee]

I enjoyed it a lot. Not perfect though, I thought far too much time was spent inside the SHIELD aircraft, it just wasn't that interesting a location and I was getting fidgety towards the end of it.

I also thought it suffered from the same problem I have with a lot of ensembles where by trying to be fair and equal to everyone, they all end up feeling like guest stars in their own movie. Not being a comic book reader I would have assumed that Captain America (the first Avenger) would have taken the central role (well, slightly more so than anyone else perhaps).

Saying that, all the characters seemed pretty cool to me. Tony Stark was back to his Iron Man 1 best, 'Cap Am was likeable and heroic, and I actually preferred the Loki/Thor relationship here than I did in Thor's own film (their scene on the mountain was quite touching).

Oh, and what a wonderfully timid and mild mannered performance from Ruffalo as Bruce Banner, he nailed it the second he appeared on screen. Just the way he rubs his hands together tells you everything we need to know about him.
His transformation too seemed more graphic here than it did in the previous 2 Hulk movies, where instead of simply getting angry and then turning green, here he appears to be fighting history's worst hangover and then SMASH!

Some HUGE laughs too, most of them courtesy of Mr Hulk himself :D Throwing bad guys around like rag dolls had me in tears, I've not laughed at a gag that much in a cinema in a long time.

Not perfect, some flaws, but when it's good it's good! Seriously good fun, I'm planning on seeing it again on Wednesday.

[Sedai]

Absolutely STELLAR stuff. Well done, Whedon! :)

4_5

[Powdered Water]

Ruffalo is one of those guys that's going to win an Oscar someday. He is to put it simply a very good actor. And I'd agree, he's the best banner yet. The difference in this movie and this just goes to show how much Whedon understands fans and the comics is this is the Marvel Avengers version of The Hulk. Not the ridiculous watered down version that's been presented in the first two films. The Hulk is bad ass and there's a reason why he's usually the last one standing when all else has failed.

[honeykid]

Samuel L. Jackson fury over bad Avengers review
With films like ‘xXx: State of the Union’ and ‘Snakes on a Plane’ on his CV, you’d have thought Samuel L. Jackson would be used to bad reviews.

However, the world’s coolest movie star lost his temper with New York Times critic A. O. Scott, after he wrote a slightly negative review of Jackson’s new film ‘Avenger’s Assemble’.

On his Twitter page (which shows him standing next to a ladder), Jackson wrote: "#Avengers fans, NY Times critic AO Scott needs a new job! Let's help him find one! One he can ACTUALLY do!"

Scott’s review slammed “overdone combat sequences” and said: “The light, amusing bits cannot overcome the grinding, hectic emptiness, the bloated cynicism that is less a shortcoming of this particular film than a feature of the genre.”

He did however compare some of the dialogue scenes to Howard Hawks’s classic ensemble western ‘Rio Bravo’.

Despite the high profile criticism, Scott responded in a surprisingly reasonable manner.

He told E! Online: "Actors and filmmakers sometimes respond angrily to negative reviews - I can't say I blame them - and Twitter is a relatively new and very public forum for that. Rallying 'fans' against sceptical critics is a time-honoured tactic, and I don't take it personally."

Samuel L. Jackson doesn't seem to think his angry words will get the critic fired either apparently.

He responded to one of Scott's defenders (again on Twitter) by telling them: "They aren't going to fire his jaundiced ass & You & I Know It!"
http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/-samuel-l--jackson-fury-over-bad-avengers-review.html

[wintertriangles]

Looks like Jackson belongs on the internet

[Cenydd Ros]

Avengers Epic Effects: Battle for NYC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j62PuN_PIaY&feature=player_embedded

[Sedai]

@ Honeykid - Email that author and let him now that it is grammatically incorrect to create a plural with an apostrophe. ;)

The movie rocked. That is all.

[TheUsualSuspect]

4.5

2012 is the year of Whedon for me, with Cabin in the Woods and The Avengers sitting at my #1 and #2 spots respectively.

Perfect blend of humour, action and emotion. It raises the bar of what comic book films should be and shows how an epic battle in the big city can be done right. Boo to you Transformers.

At 2:20, it never dragged for me. People say they spent too much time on the heli-carrier, but where else would they go? Despite Whedon being known for killing off secondary characters, it still hurt to see it happen.

Loved the battles between each hero, loved the final battle sequences and loved Hulk. I don't see how the next batch of Marvel flicks can hold up in their own one character narratives after seeing this, other than to set up another Avengers flick.

Some people behind me thought it was Red Skull at the end, I sat there shaking my head no because I knew immediately who it was. Can't wait to see what THANOS brings to the table in the next installment.

After the flick, I felt like getting Shawarma.

[filmgirlinterrupted]

I never doubted you, Joss. Simply fantastic :cool:

4.5

[Gabriella Lynn]

I wasn't comparing it to batman. Local newspaper reviews compared it better than the dark knight so I went in expecting alot, okay maybe I shouldn't have but I just didnt see anything special. Transformers came out first and maybe your right in saying the script was written first for avengers, but I sat watching the end thinking I've seen all this before.


I kind of feel like The Dark Night and The Avengers is on totally different sides of the spectrum. The style of the movies were completely different, so it's hard to see how any comparison is justifiable, IMO. The Avengers was a great movie full of a lot of funny jokes and scenes, it also gave a lot of good action and had some sentiment in it. I don't understand how anyone went into it expecting more and still didn't like it at least a 6 out of 10 but maybe I'm not a hard enough grader.

I feel like The Dark Night is darker, has barely any humor and that although it was a fantastic movie, it had a sad back story, which is the main reason why The Avengers is different, because I don't think you feel that in the movie.

[wintertriangles]

Joss is the only reason I saw this. Easily the best comic book film but that isn't saying much at all. Should I review......

3.5

[Justin]

Initially I was going to just refuse to see this on the basis of how annoying and in-your-face and all-over-the-frickin'-place the marketing is. I guess they suckered me into it.

[The Prestige]

Lets just hope this is as good as you lot are saying. I should be seeing this next week.

[MadMikeyD]

I had planned to wait to see this since taking a family of 6 to a film opening weekend is so expensive. But it was Free Comic Book Day and we were in full comic-geek mode so when my wife suggested it I didn't fight too hard. Naturally the only showing within an hour of our arriving at the theater was a 3-D showing, so we spent way more than we really wanted to, but sometimes sacrifices must be made.

The kids from 6-18 thought it was the best movie ever. My wife, not a comic fan or an action movie fan, fought hard to stay awake. Me, a life-long comic-geek, thought it was ok. It was loads of fun to watch. Action, humor, multiple super-heroes, lots of great stuff. 10 years ago I probably would've joined my kids in their assessment of it. But for some reason, I just think it was ok. It just came across to me as the big-screen equivilant of your standard comic book crossover "event." It's cool to see all your favorite characters together, but in the end it didn't really mean anything. Even the death of a popular character, who I liked, did nothing for me. I don't know if I really expected it to be any different, and I think they did an impressive job pulling it all together, but somehow it left me wanting something more that I can't quite put my finger on.

[TheUsualSuspect]

How much damage was done to New York? (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/avengers-damage-manhattan-would-cost-160-billion-322486)

[DexterRiley]

Lets just hope this is as good as you lot are saying. I should be seeing this next week.


if you read the comics as a kid, you'll love it. If you didn't chances are great It'll be meh.

Do me a favour though if you would, count how many times if any Thor is seen wearing his battle helmet. I was thinken about that today for no apparent reason, and yanno i don't think he donned it once.

[TheUsualSuspect]

Not in this film, but he does in Thor.

[linespalsy]

I really enjoyed it. Even characters who I thought were pretty boring in their own films (Captain America and Thor) were more fleshed out and interesting in this ensemble. It helped immensely that it had a nice serial-narrative feel to it, lots of little episodic story chunks, slowly building in intensity. Even the jokes get better as the movie progresses - for the first couple acts I was groaning and thinking it was pretty average sitcom banter, but it got downright witty towards the end. Or maybe it's just by that point I was hooked into the whole soap-opera aspect of the story so I was more forgiving to the cheesiness of its individual components. That fits with my perception of the defining genre-characteristics of superhero comics as well: not action movies, not classical mythology. Weepy daytime television for kids. With spandex-clad superbeings and (rarely these days) amazing illustrations. I'm not dying for more superhero movies, but this adaptation took a somewhat different approach (Nolan's Batman has a soapy/serial feel as well - in a good way) and it worked.

[gandalf26]

Finally got round to seeing it last night.

It was a good fun summer blockbuster not trying to take itself too seriously.

Probably give it a solid 8/10

Some minor niggles I had though,

I didn't like the way they handled Thor, he seemed weaker than he was in his own film. Felt like he was holding back for a lot of the film, especially in his fights with Iron Man and Hulk. I mean he is the Thundergod afterall. His entrance could have been better, would have been nice to get Anthony Hopkins on board for a quick scene on Asguard.

Thought Captain America was fairly lame. I mean he only has a crappy shield and no weapon. They should have made him an errand boy or something, making cups of tea for the real heroes, shining/washing their outfits etc.

Iron Man and Hulk stole the show with their awesomeness.(not a complaint)

[TheUsualSuspect]

Have you seen Captain America? He is a real hero, the point of him jumping on the live grenade before his "super abilities" shows his true colours. I love his do-gooder attitude and if you want to single out a non-hero, look to Black Widow.

[Yoda]

Have you seen Captain America? He is a real hero, the point of him jumping on the live grenade before his "super abilities" shows his true colours. I love his do-gooder attitude and if you want to single out a non-hero, look to Black Widow.

This. Times a billion.

[BumbleBee]

Having a crappy shield is one thing, but being able to bounce that shield off of objects and people whilst deflecting bullets with supreme accuracy even before you're in close range destroying enemies with your superhuman strength and physical ability? I'd say that's pretty bad-ass.
So I've gotta' go with TheUsualSuspect and Yoda on this one. ;)

[Powdered Water]

What that Bee guy said.

[yellowjacket1]

This movie is as 10/10 as it gets.

Quite simply, Avengers is an epic cinematic experience that more than lives up to the hype. The makers of this film certainly understand spectacle but they also get the intricacies and depth these type of characters can provide.

Marvel certainly delivered on their years of promises. Right from the close of Iron Man they were setting up this film and boy, did they manage to deliver! They deliver a movie the likes of which we've never seen before and as good of a film that's ever been made in its genre. The Avengers offers a little bit of everything and does it with intelligence, style and integrity.

There's a reason this grand of a movie has never been attempted before now. How do you fully flesh out, care about and establish this vast group and still deliver a fun, crisp and coherent story? It's extremely difficult to navigate that edge-of-your-seat excitement while at the same time caring about each one of the characters and their struggles. One of the most impressive aspects of The Avengers is that they managed to get each hero their time in the spotlight and their own character arc. Every single main lead steps up and is treated with remarkable intelligence and given room to shine. This extremely talented cast fits each character perfectly, both large and even the smaller roles.

I loved that the stakes in this film are ridiculously high and the threat so impressive that there really is a need for these diverse characters to come together. That could have been a stumbling block in terms of story but it's treated just right. It's also a great idea that they chose to introduce all the characters to the audience as if you've never seen them before. Sure, the other films set up and give depth to each character but even if you missed their solo films, you'll still know and care about them in this movie.

The story itself is told in a masterful and crisp manner. The dialogue is witty and the humor works its way seamlessly in to the natural order of the story but what else would you expect from Joss Whedon? The man has EARNED his master status with this jewel in his creative crown. The film is smart as anyone that knows Whedon would expect but it remembers to be fun. That’s not to say there aren’t dark elements because the gravity of what’s presented is immense and the interaction between the characters is actually complex. That’s why some are calling it a masterpiece. Comic book style slugfests are certainly part of the fun but are inserted as a vehicle for the story and not just to see CGI things explode. Things aren't blown up just for the sake of seeing them go boom. How can a movie like this pull that off? What makes a movie about a super soldier from World War Two, a futurist playboy in armor and a god of thunder really work are their relationship to one another and the incredibly good writing on display. Like Thor and the Iron Man films, it manages to ground high fantasy in to the realm of the believable.

Honestly, this is movie making of the most entertaining order and it easily deserves all the praise it has generated from both fans and critics alike. What’s also great is that the possibilities are endless from this point forward. Avengers teams of a different make-up are possible and the sequels that follow will no doubt be cool but they have a LOT to live up to now. This film really is that good.

[gandalf26]

Have you seen Captain America? He is a real hero, the point of him jumping on the live grenade before his "super abilities" shows his true colours. I love his do-gooder attitude and if you want to single out a non-hero, look to Black Widow.

Yes I have the DVD on my shelf. Only watched once though, probably never will again. Probably the worst of all the separate Avenger films, well maybe second worst after that Hulk crap with Edward Norton. Iron Man 2 was fairly crap aswell.

The Captain America movie was so unmmorable that I don't even remember him jumping on any grenade. His costume, his gay mask, his crappy shield, the crappy actor playing him. Just such a lame hero (would be unfair on the others to call him a "Superhero). Thats my 2 cents anyway. He should have been in the control room like co ordintaing and stuff or like covering breaks of the staff in the control room etc.

If I had to rate the Avengers movies in order they would be;

1) Iron Man

2) Avengers Assemble

3) Thor

4) Ang Lee's Hulk

5) Iron Man 2

6) Captain America (should be called Captain Lame)

7) Hulk (Edward Norton)

[DexterRiley]

This movie is as 10/10 as it gets.


I loved that the stakes in this film are ridiculously high and the threat so impressive that there really is a need for these diverse characters to come together.

That was my main quibble with the flick oddly enough. Had the aliens been in cahoots with hydra.nazis in the Cap flick it would have made more of an impact i think.

[Yoda]

His "gay mask"? You listed three things you didn't like, and two of them were about his uniform...even though the film is set 70 years ago? And you don't even remember one of the best moments of the movie?

Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but it sounds like yours was formed by some pretty superficial stuff.

[Pyro Tramp]

I get his jist though and agree with his inherent argument but then that maybe because i'm bias against the slightly outdated cultural imperialism/propaganda Cap represents in the standalone film. It's hard to make his costume work on screen and some of it was quite cringe worthy which does detract from making any attachment to the character. I enjoyed his film but it was a superficial one, I didn't really feel any meat to it or any particularly memorable moments- I preferred the flag scene over the grenade one. I like the message of it's not powers that make a hero but it's what's inside, just a shame it's too 'America f*ck yeah' that's inside :p

[Yoda]

But the "cultural imperialism" (pretty loaded term, but okay...) you're talking about doesn't exist in his time. He fought in a particularly necessary, just, altruistic war. He has no connection to Vietnam, or Iraq, or anything else controversial. In fact, in The Avengers, there are strong hints that he's not thrilled with what the world as a whole has become. "They told me we won...they didn't tell me what we lost." The kind of thing you seem irked about is the kind of thing he's completely different from. If anything, this seems like it should make him like you more.

[Pyro Tramp]

But the "cultural imperialism" (pretty loaded term, but okay...) you're talking about doesn't exist in his time. He fought in a particularly necessary, just, altruistic war. He has no connection to Vietnam, or Iraq, or anything else controversial. In fact, in The Avengers, there are strong hints that he's not thrilled with what the world as a whole has become. "They told me we won...they didn't tell me what we lost." The kind of thing you seem irked about is the kind of thing he's completely different from. If anything, this seems like it should make him like you more.

Ok, replace that with propaganda, used the wrong term, my bad. Even though there's winks at that in the movie with his stage career, it's still what his character represents and it's not something I connected with. I like the disillusionment you refer to and will be interested to see his follow up film which read is to be more 'personal' and deal with his adjustments, just hope it's not made to patriotic.

But as a movie itself (Cap, the character, aside), it does show cultural imperialism to an extent, except for thge chick, I don't remember seeing any British soldiers in it or anything to suggest the War endeavour wasn't another 'America f*ck yeah' situation.

[tramp]

Hi everyone! (haven't been here in a while...)

I'm so disappointed to read some of the negative comments here -- I think this film so totally rocked. But then again, I love Buffy. I'm so thrilled for Whedon's success :)

But the reason I came here is because I haven't been this excited about an actor since, well....a year ago when I watched Thor. I just think....

We should all bow at the mantle that is Tom Hiddleston. :D

I loved this movie, but maybe not for the reasons that others did. Every time Loki was on screen, I felt on fire. I absolutely love him! I loved the movie Thor, too, because of the relationship between Thor and Loki. Hiddleston's performance just flat-out amazes me. The way he speaks. His clearly defined turmoil. His clothes. His slicked black hair. OMG. :eek:

I also think that Captain America doesn't get enough love. So many say they didn't see his origin film. It's great. I think all of them are (Thor is my favorite along with Iron Man) but I like that old-fashioned soldier hero. I think it speaks to the glory that was once the USA; I'm not a comic fan, but I would think that would speak to all those comic fans out there and reflects on an entire generation of real-life "heroes." It was a time when a villain was really a villain and we could all get behind the soldiers.

Anyway... back to Loki. I wanted to post because I simply didn't see enough Loki love around here. He's working on the "Henriad" (Henry IV and Henry V) for BBC. I can't wait to hear him deliver the St. Crispin's Day Speech!!!

I want a poster of Loki to hang in my bedroom. ;)

http://moviecultists.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Tom-Hiddleston-as-Loki-in-The-Avengers.jpg

[MadMikeyD]

Complaining about the patriotism angle of a character and film called Captain America? I'm not sure what you expected...

[Pyro Tramp]

Not complaining, jus sayin', didn't warm to him as much as others

[Yoda]

Ok, replace that with propaganda, used the wrong term, my bad. Even though there's winks at that in the movie with his stage career, it's still what his character represents and it's not something I connected with. I like the disillusionment you refer to and will be interested to see his follow up film which read is to be more 'personal' and deal with his adjustments, just hope it's not made to patriotic.
Meh. To be frank, I think way too many people want way too many of their characters to be gritty and postmodern and angsty. I thought it was incredibly refreshing to have a throwback in there, not just for balance and for the interplay between them, but to remind us about how notions of heroism and even the nature of our fictional characters have changed. I really think people are underestimating the significance and power of that.

But as a movie itself (Cap, the character, aside), it does show cultural imperialism to an extent, except for thge chick, I don't remember seeing any British soldiers in it or anything to suggest the War endeavour wasn't another 'America f*ck yeah' situation.
Okay, but...how is World War 2 not an "America f**k yeah" situation? It's one thing to not like that sort of thing when it isn't warranted, but if ever a country had a war to celebrate in its stories, it was WW2.

[earlsmoviepicks]

Just saw this yesterday--I looked down the line of kids to my left at one point, seeing 7 or 8 slack-jawed, glued-to-the-screen little faces all the way down the line. 8 little piles of drool on the floor. Always a good barometer for this kind of film.

I admire the way JW blended all these characters together and enjoyed the relationship between them, it was a treat. Fun dialogue. Thor's Hammer--awesome. Also, I don't think I ever remember a major laugh in a superhero movie as intense as the 2 big ones we got here; especially without pandering for it......And...Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner--casting genius.

I would watch it again for sure-- my only complaints -- I get a bit weary from overt-the-top CGI at times, finding it straying a bit into Transformers territory, and some of the quick C/U editing of close combat scenes bugged me a little.

All in all, Me likey.
I give it 9 piles of drool.

[tramp]

Meh. To be frank, I think way too many people want way too many of their characters to be gritty and postmodern and angsty. I thought it was incredibly refreshing to have a throwback in there, not just for balance and for the interplay between them, but to remind us about how notions of heroism and even the nature of our fictional characters have changed. I really think people are underestimating the significance and power of that.




That's exactly what I was trying to say, only you said it so much better, Yoda....as usual....;)

So nobody likes Loki as much as me? NOBODY???!!!!! :(

[Yoda]

I'm totally with you on Loki. I mean, "like" is tough, because he's deliciously terrible. But yeah, in terms of performance Hiddleston really nailed it. I've heard a lot of reviewers single him out, too, which is nice.

[ollanik]

If movie is only fun,entertaining blockbuster not trying to take itself too seriously,than it cant be epic or whatever...average movie this is,nothing more...

[Sedai]

No. It's not average - it's awesome. I know it's your opinion, but it's wrong. :D

[wintertriangles]

The only awesome thing about it is how it took the comic book approach of having numerous, small, complete sequences all moving towards an end goal. Other than that it tried too hard to frame shots like a comic book, but that can't work because this is a different medium and not a graphic like Sin City. It's a step in the right direction but we've not quite yet figured out how to adapt from comics.

[MadMikeyD]

It's a step in the right direction but we've not quite yet figured out how to adapt from comics.

I'll disagree with that. I think many films, including this one, have done an excellent job adapting comics. Superman: The Movie, X-Men 2, Fantastic Four, the first Spider-Man and Iron Man films, all very good comic adaptations, in my opinion.

As I said, I thought they did an excellent job on this movie. I just felt it was missing something I still can't put my finger on. I'll probably need to see it again to figure it out. It may just be the "crossover event" nature of it - lots of awesome sequences with little lasting effect.

this is a different medium and not a graphic (novel) like Sin City.

Actually, with the exception of "Family Values," all the Sin City stories - including the arcs the film was based on - were originally serialized just like Marvel's super hero books. Just sayin'...

[wintertriangles]

I'll disagree with that. I think many films, including this one, have done an excellent job adapting comics. Superman: The Movie, X-Men 2, Fantastic Four, the first Spider-Man and Iron Man films, all very good comic adaptations, in my opinion.I'm referring to capturing the comic book feel in a cinematic way, not just having comic characters in a decent movie.

Actually, with the exception of "Family Values," all the Sin City stories - including the arcs the film was based on - were originally serialized just like Marvel's super hero books. Just sayin'...I didn't mean how you inferred. I referred to the film Sin City's visual style.

[Drastic]

Too be honest u said this 'hulk' was the best out of the 3. I disagree. Edward norton (not sure how his name is spelt) was best hulk iv seen so far he made the incredible hulk really interesting and made me love that movie when i first watched it. Overall hes a great actor too and has done many great performances. at the moment im going to look into the actor that plays hulk in the avengers.

[Yoda]

So, I wanted to write this sooner, but things are exceptionally busy these days, and I ended up waiting to see the film again to get a clearer picture of the whole thing. Here's the review:

The Avengers

http://www.movieforums.com/images/main/avengers_main.png (http://www.movieforums.com/reviews/the_avengers.html)

Whedon's reputation is one of upsetting convention, and in a media environment where more protagonists are self-aware the only way to go forward is to double back, with heroes so self-aware that they're aware of how tired self-awareness is. The result is a pre-postmodern masterpiece of mayhem....READ MORE

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So yeah: liked it a whole lot. The second viewing did bring a few things into focus, though. The first being that the second half is significantly better than the first. The second being that it really does find a near-seamless way to give everyone a couple of moments, usually both one fun and one profound. And the third is that, yeah, the Hulk really does steal the show, even when you know what's coming.

[Pyro Tramp]

Meh. To be frank, I think way too many people want way too many of their characters to be gritty and postmodern and angsty. I thought it was incredibly refreshing to have a throwback in there, not just for balance and for the interplay between them, but to remind us about how notions of heroism and even the nature of our fictional characters have changed. I really think people are underestimating the significance and power of that.


Okay, but...how is World War 2 not an "America f**k yeah" situation? It's one thing to not like that sort of thing when it isn't warranted, but if ever a country had a war to celebrate in its stories, it was WW2.

I'm not knocking the movie, well I am kind of, objectively as a film it was fine and I dig the notions and ideology it presents. Just thought if you were a kid watching it, not knowing the history, it would be easy to think WW2 was American v Germany, with no mention of England being involved. Obviously, the film is called Captain AMERICA but still, i'll put it down to our national perspectives and move on. It was more observation than an attack of the film, i'm not disagreeing with any of what you said, if it's seems to the contrary. And my point was levelled at Captain America and the presentation of the conflict, not The Avengers or his role in it :)

[JayDee]

Came across this article on the film which I really liked. Perfectly summed up why I loved the film in many ways.

The Avengers and the Restoration of Wonder (http://twitchfilm.com/news/2012/05/the-avengers-and-the-restoration-of-wonder.php)


I'm totally with you on Loki. I mean, "like" is tough, because he's deliciously terrible. But yeah, in terms of performance Hiddleston really nailed it. I've heard a lot of reviewers single him out, too, which is nice.

Spot on! :up: I actually feel bad for not mentioning him in my own personal review. He really does make for one of those great, villains you love to hate. I'd love him to stick around and be involved with the next Thor or Avengers film, though I'm not sure how many times we can see him defeated before he becomes a joke and a character with no real menace.

Really good review by the way Yoda. :yup: Though as is obvious from my gushing review I liked it more than you. :D Speaking of which I think I'll take the chance to again plug my own review for anyone who hasn't already seen it. :p

JayDee's Avengers Geek-out! (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=809529)

[MadMikeyD]

I didn't mean how you inferred. I referred to the film Sin City's visual style.

Ah. Yes, I misinterpreted.

I'm referring to capturing the comic book feel in a cinematic way, not just having comic characters in a decent movie.

I was, too. Those all give me a similar experience to reading comics. In fact, I may argue that the whole "Avengers Cycle" is possibly the closest a cinematic adaptation can come to recreating the comic book experience - the interconnected mythology, the cameos, the big crossover. Those are all cornerstones of the Marvel and DC super hero universes, and these six films captured that pretty well, IMO.

[tramp]

Came across this article on the film which I really liked. Perfectly summed up why I loved the film in many ways.

The Avengers and the Restoration of Wonder (http://twitchfilm.com/news/2012/05/the-avengers-and-the-restoration-of-wonder.php)

Wonderful article! He's right, it was the sense of wonder that makes this movie so much fun. He compared it to LOTR; I agree that these films invoke a sense of wonder. Thanks for posting that.

nice review, Yoda. :)

[DexterRiley]

I'm not knocking the movie, well I am kind of, objectively as a film it was fine and I dig the notions and ideology it presents. Just thought if you were a kid watching it, not knowing the history, it would be easy to think WW2 was American v Germany, with no mention of England being involved. Obviously, the film is called Captain AMERICA but still, i'll put it down to our national perspectives and move on. It was more observation than an attack of the film, i'm not disagreeing with any of what you said, if it's seems to the contrary. And my point was levelled at Captain America and the presentation of the conflict, not The Avengers or his role in it :)

I dont think its possible for a kid old enough to see this flick in the theatres to not know the combatants involved in ww2.

I mean its covered in grade 6 history class for cryen out loud.

[wintertriangles]

I dont think its possible for a kid old enough to see this flick in the theatres to not know the combatants involved in ww2.

I mean its covered in grade 6 history class for cryen out loud.You'd be utterly astounded how little is covered in history classes

[TheUsualSuspect]

A lot of people didn't realize that the Titanic was a real ship until all the specials came on the television with it being the 100th Anniversary.

[gandalf26]

A lot of people didn't realize that the Titanic was a real ship until all the specials came on the television with it being the 100th Anniversary.

I find it really worrying that too many young people today don't know anything about great people who were around 20,30,40,50 years ago. They have no idea who Malcolm X is, Muhammed Ali, JFK, RFK, John Lennon. Also great events that happened in recent history like The Berlin Wall coming down, Vietnam, Civil Rights Struggle, Chernoble etc. I even had an ex girlfriend who had forgotten that 9/11 happened.

[Pyro Tramp]

I worked for someone who didn't know who the PM was. I'm accustomed to not being shocked at people's astounding ignorance these days.

[gandalf26]

I worked for someone who didn't know who the PM was. I'm accustomed to not being shocked at people's astounding ignorance these days.

Yep, so many young folk are 24/7 plugged into Facebook or Twitter, on their iphone etc, they don't watch the news and are completely unaware of MAJOR news stories going on in the World.

[honeykid]

Who is the best paid Avenger?

Not all the Avengers are equal, according to their pay packets anyway.

Sources have revealed to trade mag The Hollywood Reporter that Robert Downey Jr. was the top paid star in ‘Avengers Assemble’... but it’s a shock by just how much. The ‘Iron Man’ star picked up $50m (£31m) once bonuses and his share of the profits are totted up - and this will rise as the film makes more cash.

The rest of the cast picked up just a fraction of this though.

Reportedly Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Jeremy Renner (Hawkeye), Chris Evans (Captain America) and Mark Ruffalo (The Hulk) will earn between $2m and $3m (£1.25m - £1.9m); while Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury) and Scarlett Johansson (Black Widow) fare slightly better with a reported $4m - $6m (£2.5m - £3.8m).

So what's the reason for this disparity?

According to THR, after the success of 'Iron Man' Downey Jr.'s canny reps negotiated a deal that will see him take a percentage of Marvel's profits from any film in which he plays the metal-suited hero. The exact figure is debated, and neither Marvel nor the star's reps have commented, but when a film rakes in over $1bn in a few weeks any percentage is a cause for celebration.

The report will do nothing to dispel Marvel’s reputation for being cheap with star salaries.
http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/who-is-the-best-paid-avenger-.html

[Yoda]

Can't really blame 'em. Most of the actors were making good--but not great--money before. Roles like this are as much a boon to the actors who get them as they are to the studios, and they'll see inevitable pay bumps going forward, anyway. Plus, it's probably pretty hard to get the stars of four different franchises together (plus a few secondary characters cast by big names) without destroying the budget if they don't start at a few million.

Kudos to Downey, though. If anyone involved deserved it, it was him.

[wintertriangles]

No actor deserves that much for a movie

[DexterRiley]

I find it really worrying that too many young people today don't know anything about great people who were around 20,30,40,50 years ago. They have no idea who Malcolm X is, Muhammed Ali, JFK, RFK, John Lennon. Also great events that happened in recent history like The Berlin Wall coming down, Vietnam, Civil Rights Struggle, Chernoble etc. I even had an ex girlfriend who had forgotten that 9/11 happened.

not sure your source for this claim, but im callen shenanigans.

[wintertriangles]

not sure your source for this claim, but im callen shenanigans.I went to school with my peers, they don't know anything. There's your source.

[MadMikeyD]

I have kids ages 6-18. I'm appalled at the amount of history they don't learn in school. The oldest only learned who Hitler was in his senior year and has no clue what the holocaust was. Future generations are going to be doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past because no one is yelling them what they were.

[ManOf1000Faces]

It's not the kid's fault. It's the parent's. No kid can just think of him Hitler..people need to know about him first just Vincent Price or Roy Orbison. People today don't know who they are but most parents knew or even met Price or Orbison.

[MadMikeyD]

It's not the kid's fault. It's the parent's. No kid can just think of him Hitler..people need to know about him first just Vincent Price or Roy Orbison. People today don't know who they are but most parents knew or even met Price or Orbison.

I kind of see your point, but Hitler's rule and World War II are major points of human history that are barely being touched on in history classes. With very few exceptions, I wouldn't expect schools to talk about entertainers. The deaths of millions of people caused by the crazed views of one man is a little more significant than who originally sang "Oh, Pretty Woman."

[honeykid]

not sure your source for this claim, but im callen shenanigans.
It's seems to be true, Dex. Kids don't know **** about history. Ten years ago I was talking to kids who'd just left school (16/17) and wondered just what the hell they did know, so I can only imagine how bad it is now.

I know it's not every child, and I don't know which children didn't know the answer to which question, but here's a few of articles that might give you an idea.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011/10/06/katharine-birbalsingh-som_n_997700.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-539935/Winston-Churchill--wasnt-man-moon--classroom-howlers.html
http://primetime.unrealitytv.co.uk/uk-kids-thinks-winston-churchill-is-the-car-insurance-dog/

[The Prestige]

Best Superhero film of all time, lol. Ok.

[TheUsualSuspect]

I don't get how it's the parents fault the kids don't know history. Parents are suppose to raise their kids, schools are suppose to teach them history. It's not like I'm going to sit my kid down with a book about Hitler and talk about how bad he was.

I have no idea about the first time I learned about Hitler, whether it was school or television.

Only on Mofo can a thread about a a comic book film and turn it into a history lesson about Hitler.





Okay, maybe Captain America has something to do with it.

[tramp]

I don't get how it's the parents fault the kids don't know history. Parents are suppose to raise their kids, schools are suppose to teach them history. It's not like I'm going to sit my kid down with a book about Hitler and talk about how bad he was.

I have no idea about the first time I learned about Hitler, whether it was school or television.

Only on Mofo can a thread about a a comic book film and turn it into a history lesson about Hitler.





Okay, maybe Captain America has something to do with it.

Nope. I'm a teacher and it galls me that parents don't talk to their kids. We can't be responsible for everything. The lack of background knowledge is astounding. And it puts the kids at risk of failing because they have no knowledge at all about certain subjects.

My students are so incredibly igorant of so many things, it just saddens me to no end. Lack of history; even lack of culture! I think that is what Manof1000Faces was trying to say. He's into artists of the past because he has sought them out -- it is rather sad that so many of my students seem so UNCURIOUS about the world. It makes me want to cry.

Now, here, in Maryland, in English, 7th grade, we discuss the Holocaust and WWII. Just to let you know. My students would understand Captain America. :)

[wintertriangles]

Both times I saw The Dictator yesterday, numerous people in both theaters saw the picture of Kim Jong Il and were saying "who the **** is that"

[TheUsualSuspect]

Nope. I'm a teacher and it galls me that parents don't talk to their kids. We can't be responsible for everything.

I think parents are more concerned with raising their kids to be functioning adults than worrying about teaching them WWII.

So let me get this straight.

Parents think the teachers teach their kids History

Teachers think parents teach them history?

I GET that you'd be upset about the lack of knowledge a kid has about History, but I say it is more the teachers job than the parent to teach them about those things. Parents are there to assist, they are more concerned with, what I said earlier, making the kid a functioning adult.

[Justin]

Not trying to knock The Avengers or anything, but I thought this was too funny not to post:

http://www.cracked.com/article_19841_if-avengers-was-10-times-shorter-100-times-more-honest.html

[tramp]

I GET that you'd be upset about the lack of knowledge a kid has about History, but I say it is more the teachers job than the parent to teach them about those things. Parents are there to assist, they are more concerned with, what I said earlier, making the kid a functioning adult.

sadly, a lot of them aren't doing that job very well either! :(

my point is merely that there are so many adults that know very little and so they don't help their kids -- they don't expose them to history, culture, etc.... they don't even read to them.

[TheUsualSuspect]

I can agree with that.

[gandalf26]

not sure your source for this claim, but im callen shenanigans.

My source is two of the 17 year olds that I work with. One of them is smart too.

[yellowjacket1]

I think parents are more concerned with raising their kids to be functioning adults than worrying about teaching them WWII.

That's crap.

Teaching your kids about politics and the history of their country is extremely important. If parents can't shape and talk to their kids about something as significant as that then shame on them. Between movies and the History Channel there are things you sit around, watch and talk about especially on a weekend such as this.

Laying it all at the feet of teachers is crap.


(BTW- Saw Avengers for the 5th time today and still loved every minute of it!!)

[shona65]

Oh my god this movie is just awesome you can say about it not a single mistake in it.

[wintertriangles]

Oh my god this movie is just awesome you can say about it not a single mistake in it.Sure I can....how many do you want me to list?

[TheUsualSuspect]

69.

[Johnyjibajaba]

I thought it was quite good. I was concerned that there might be too many strong fan favourites, too many chiefs, not enough indians kinda buzz but it actually worked quite well in my opinion 8 out of 10.

[genesis_pig]

The Avengers is the awsum movie i didnt found any mistake in it.....:cool::D:rolleyes:

Yes, i's difficult to spot a mistake in a film which is itself a mistake.
:D

[Flimmaker1473]

Four Stars
At first glance the Avengers seems like another super hero movie. It looked good. But nothing special. Then a few weeks before it came out I spoke to someone who saw the unfinished product and said it was amazing. I was intrigued to say the least. But I had no idea when the next time I would be able to go to the movies again. The last movie I saw was John Carter and it nearly left me broke (I paid $18 to see it IMAX plus spotting my friend three dollars and purchasing a blue raspberry slushie). But I have recently gotten hired by a movie theater (dream job). And what is the first movie I choose to see for free? The Avengers!
Ok so enough about me. The Asgardian Loki encounters the Other, the leader of an alien race known as the Chitauri. In exchange for retrieving the Tesseract, a powerful energy source of unknown potential, the Other promises Loki a Chitauri army with which he can subjugate the Earth. They also kidnap Hawkeye (Jeremy Renner) and make him a slave to his madness. Nick Fury (Samuel L Jackson), director of the espionage agency S.H.I.E.L.D., and his lieutenant Agent Maria Hill (Cobie Smulders from How I met your mother) arrive at a remote research facility during an evacuation, where physicist Dr. Erik Selvig is leading a research team experimenting on the Tesseract.
Now there is trouble. A demi god has something that could end the world. Now it is time for a plan of action. In response to the attack, Fury reactivates the "Avengers Initiative". Agent Natasha Romanoff (Scarlett Johansson) is sent to Calcutta, India to recruit Dr. Bruce Banner (Mark Ruffalo). Agent Phil Coulson (Clark Greg) visits Tony Stark (Robert Downey Jr) to have him review Selvig's research; Fury approaches Steve Rogers (Chris Evans) with an assignment to retrieve the Tesseract.

While Barton steals iridium needed to stabilize the Tesseract's power, Loki causes a distraction in Stuttgart, Germany, leading to a confrontation with Rogers, Stark, and Romanoff that ends with Loki's surrender. While Loki is being escorted to S.H.I.E.L.D., Thor (Chris Hemsworth), his adoptive brother, arrives and frees him hoping to convince him to abandon his plan and return to Asgard. This scene plays on the classic bother relationship. Thor knows his brother is evil. But he loves his brother. He wants to protect his brother and get him to stop his evil ways.
The rest of the film surprises you as the Avengers and S.H.I.E.L.D go through many hardships. Some amazing action scenes happen that you would never think are possible.
The acting is of course top notch. There were a few big draws for me to this film. Robert Downey Jr for starters. The man doesn't play Tony Stark, he is Tony Stark. He embodies everything Stark is and embraces it. Scarlett Johansson is special as Black Widow as she shows her character is just more than a pretty face like her. And Jeremy Renner has emerged as a great actor and doesn't disappoint as a super hero.
Joss Wheldon as the director is a big time Marvel comics fan and it shows. He created something that he knew other fans would enjoy and resonate with us on a different level. If there is such a thing as a super hero/action film being a masterpiece he just created it.
I have always loved Marvel Comics. Spiderman and Iron in particular. But I loved them all. I grew up with them all. Watching the cartoons and the t.v shows. To see the greatest band of heros all together on the big screen is special. And the message is a special one too.

[Logic Deficit]

Hi, I thought this was a very good movie. Was slightly worried beforehand as Joss Whedon hadn't directed anything of this scale before (as far as I know anyway). Only a few minutes into the movie though and my worries departed.

Iron man again steals the show in my opinion but thats not necessarily a bad thing, but the Hulk isn't too far behind which was a realy surprise to me as the previous Hulk movies just hadn't really done it for me.

Looking forward to the next one! :D

[ChuckDee]

Thought the Avengers was fantastic and I've seen it twice. Very well done movie. Not sure if this has been answered for the OP but the bad guy at the end of the credits is a character by the name of, Thanos. I did some research on the Marvel character and sounds like a real bad ass.

[TheUsualSuspect]

That's crap.

Teaching your kids about politics and the history of their country is extremely important. If parents can't shape and talk to their kids about something as significant as that then shame on them. Between movies and the History Channel there are things you sit around, watch and talk about especially on a weekend such as this.

Laying it all at the feet of teachers is crap.


(BTW- Saw Avengers for the 5th time today and still loved every minute of it!!)

Then let's do away with History classes.:rolleyes:

[TheGirlWhoHadAllTheLuck x]

I found the film entertaining despite the fact that I've never seen a superhero movie all the way through. Near the end I realised why I've never seen one all the way through- loads of people in costumes bashing up things and trying to destroy bad guy and magical object that is going to kill us all- but the bashing up was more entertaining this time considering that there was more superheroes.

It was interesting how Whedon tried to portray them as misfit humans rather than super humans and how they had their own personalities. The dialogue was very good for a superhero film, although the audience I was in were easily amused.

I think Tom Hiddleston as Loki was the most interesting character. I felt sorry when the other people were trying to kill him, especially Captain America and Thor as they were both boring.

Geeks will totally geek out on this but your average punter should enjoy it as well.

[ChuckDee]

It was interesting how Whedon tried to portray them as misfit humans rather than super humans and how they had their own personalities. The dialogue was very good for a superhero film, although the audience I was in were easily amused.


If you've read old Avengers comic books, this is exactly how they were portrayed in print. Joss simply evoked this in film.....brilliantly done movie.

[dallas.hildebrand]

The latest installment in Marvels comic series movies, The Avengers, is sure to fulfill any passionate followers of the Marvel series while also satisfying the appetite of any action aficionado. It’s an action adventure/sci-fi movie for the ages.

The movie, filmed in various locations within the U.S., starts somewhat slow, laying the foundation for viewers not familiar with the Ironman, Hulk, Captain America, Thor, and other Marvel movies and characters. Whedon does this effectively; He feeds unfamiliar viewers just enough information to keep them, “in the loop” while creating suspense and anticipation for those already accustomed to the Marvel series. I can admit that if it weren’t for certain characters witty banter, Tony Stark (Robert Downey Jr.) and Thor, (Chris Hemmsworth) the film may come off a little dull at times. I found myself waiting for the next funny punch line from Stark and Thor. Both Downey and Hemmsworth display brilliant performances helping mask any poor performances from other characters. Just as in the self-titled film with Captain America (Chris Evans) Evans character is dull, boring and quite lackluster. Evans action scenes and dialogue were mostly excruciatingly painful to watch. Thankfully Downey’s character which is full of memorable quotes really steals the show. For instance when Loki attempts to put Stark under a, “spell” by tapping him with his scepter, Stark responds to his failed attempts by begging the question, “performance issues?” Associating his scepter to male genitalia.

Continuity was sure to be an issue as Whedon took on the task of combining so many difference hero’s and movies in to one movie. The makers of the Avengers addressed this discreetly, making connections directly and indirectly to the other movies. For instance, Stark’s character in Ironman 2 ends with a romantic relationship with Pepper Pots, this trend continues and see’s Starks character slowly becoming less ego-centric and more of a team player. Or when Bruce Banner (Mark Ruffalo) notes the last time he was in New York he, “kind of broke Harlem” making reference the Abomination in, “The Incredible Hulk” released in 2008. Sure any comic enthusiast will understand the use of intertextuality, but one would argue that even for the average viewer the references to other movies (even if you hadn’t seen them) are seamless and easy to put together.

The Avengers follows the atypical superhero format (evil rise, good concur) but isn’t that what we expect from these movies? Without creating any spoilers, The Avengers keeps you glued to the screen with use of thrilling action scenes and the emotional ups and downs as the power struggle between good and evil is in constant limbo. I strongly recommend The Avengers to all types of movie aficionados. This is a must see!

[GrahamBlake1984]

I thought I would throw in my 2 cents.

This has got to be the best super hero related movie I have ever seen by a mile. The story and the characters were awesome, and so was the 3D effects. The new dude who played the Hulk wa much better that Ed Norton and Eric Bana who played the character in the two stand alone movies, and I definately think they should consider making another movie with the actor.


Robert Downey may have stole the show though as his smart talking character was brilliant and ended with the heroics at the end, it was only right that the Hulk saved him though.


Overall, this has got me looking forward to the next Iron Man movie, and at the excited about the proposed sequel to The Avengers.

[Ruthless Critic]

... The new dude who played the Hulk wa much better that Ed Norton and Eric Bana who played the character in the two stand alone movies, and I definately think they should consider making another movie with the actor....


I have to disagree on this. I think that the Hulk man (Mark Ruffalo) was kind of lame. All the anxiety was missing... He was the worst of the main characters I'd say.

This was a great movie otherwise.

[Kimmie]

I thought it was very over-rated! However, I did absolutely love the end action scene!
I'd have to disagree with Ruthless. The Hulk was very awesome!
Though I was abit bored during the movie until the end action scene.... Just my opinion though....

[rauldc14]

For me, it's a close jumbled mess between Iron Man, Dark Knight, Spiderman 2, and The Avengers for best superhero movie. It may take time to sort it out.

[Rebelwithacause]

Better than Dark Knight rises?................

my reason being.....
My expectations for DKR was unrealistic after the TDK. IT was never gonna live up to the massive over expectations of fans and media alike.
On the other hand i dont think anyone thought Joss (Buffy) Wheldon could pull off the bringing together of one massive succesful Marvel (Iron Man) and a few boogie ones(Thor,Hawkeye and the Captain). However he did and made it enjoyable,funny and hugely entertaining.
Dont get me wrong i love the Nolan Batman series, but i think i let myself get carried away with the hype and ended up leaving the cinema feeling slightly disappointed.....
Maybe i need to dust to settle and watch them back but on first view, i felt i enjoyed Avengers more than DKR much to my own disgust.

[Geeaytch]

3/10!!! No character development (apart from Hawkeye), a linear and one-dimensional plot, and a running time well in excess of 2 hours ensures that this movie won't be watched by me again. However, as a comic book fan, I'd be lying if I said that the final battle wasn't fun to watch.

My full review can be found in the thread Geeaytch's Movie Reviews. (I don't have enough posts to link to it yet.)

[Deadite]

That's way too harsh to be taken seriously.

[DexterRiley]

LoL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDajL441mZc

[gandalf26]

Nice ^^^^^^

[x] watching other trailers soon

[TheGirlWhoHadAllTheLuck x]

I enjoyed the film and I've never seen any of the films related to it. The only character that I knew (rather than had heard of) was The Hulk. Tom Hiddleston was easily the best in it.

[SammyNoNo]

Overrated.

[Guaporense]

I though it was solid, I rate it 7/10

[robVILE]

The Avengers was a fantastically well done film.

So well done, that Joss has been signed on as a consultant to the Marvel Films for the next three years.

I agree, Ruffalo was a great Banner/Hulk.

[Deadite]

Keeping it in perspective, it wasn't a great film but it was fun and had some snappy dialogue and action. The large cast was handled pretty well, each getting their moments to shine. I'll say personally that I most enjoyed it as they were being put together but once it got to the last big battle, it dragged a bit. It was still very fun for me overall and could've been so much worse. All in all, a brisk and competent superhero movie that didn't reach too far to seem relevant or profound, but stayed mostly traditional and worked well with what it had.

[teeter_g]

http://gifsoup.com/view6/3675687/hulk-punches-thor-o.gif

I love this movie! I also think that Ruffalo is the best Hulk by far (I enjoyed Bana but didn't care for Nortons' portrayal). Just a good movie.

[ScarletLion]

This is the worst movie I have ever seen. Apart from maybe "Mega shark Vs Octopus".

There has surely not been many more pointless, boring, waste of a couple of hours on the big screen recently? It was one big bish, bash bosh of fighting and CGI. Terrible one liners, very little in the way of plot, and a gargantuan waste of money.

Staggering that so many people will pay to watch this dirge.

[UncriticallyAcclaimed]

It is awesome, the concept of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. This will be one of the most epic story lines in film history; and I think the longest? While I would have liked to see Edward Norton reprise his role as Bruce Banner, Mark Ruffalo is impossible not to like. Loved the energy between Ruffalo and Robert Downey Jr. whom I will say has completely owned the role of Tony Stark. Great acting all across. It's nice to see how comfortable everybody is in their roles. A really likable team. The special effects also are at a believable stage now, it will be interesting to see how they improve in future films. If the team from Prometheus teamed up with The Avengers team, I'm sure something great would happen.

7.8/10

[AndrewFerroll]

Really, The Avengers is nothing epic. It works as a group superhero movie, but it's mostly rehashed cliches with no originality. There's little tension present: we all know that in the end, the heroes will defeat the bad guy. And they do, almost effortlessly, largely remaining confident to the point of smugness...

[M+F Reviews]

Personally I liked the Avengers. I can understand your point Andrew but even so I feel the film 'clicked' and even though what you say is quite right it made the film enjoyable in the end. Yes we know the heroes will defeat the bad guys but that's what we want and what we root for while watching (myself personally anyway).

I agree that with Uncritically Acclaimed that the Marvel Universe is incredible and made even better with the special effects. I also really enjoyed Mark Ruffalo in the role of the Hulk and would like to see a Hulk individual movie with him in.

It will be interesting to see how the Age of Ulton compares to Avengers Assemble. Obviously they are adding new characters in Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch I believe. It will also be interesting to see if Agent Phil Coulson will return. They could kill off one of the larger characters I believe and this would make for interesting viewing as we do expect the good guys to always come out on top.

[-KhaN-]

Really, The Avengers is nothing epic. It works as a group superhero movie, but it's mostly rehashed cliches with no originality. There's little tension present: we all know that in the end, the heroes will defeat the bad guy. And they do, almost effortlessly, largely remaining confident to the point of smugness...

Avengers are epic when you take movie for what it is,enjoyable action movie with some humor,they done that part very good.They never wanted this movie to be some masterpiece,with epic story,plot twists etc...When Marvel created movie in witch you don't know that superheroes will win in the end?Nop they didn't but that dosen't make this movie bad,if this was thriller then it would but this is action movie with superheroes that people enjoyed for what it is.

[CaptainYorkshire]

The Avengers changed the standard of the superhero genre forever. This movie changed my life haha

[genesis_pig]

The Avengers changed the standard of the superhero genre forever. This movie changed my life haha

They did it by ripping off Transformers plot. yes, changed the standard alright.

[Yoda]

They did it by ripping off Transformers plot. yes, changed the standard alright.
Please elaborate.

[The Sci-Fi Slob]

They did it by ripping off Transformers plot. yes, changed the standard alright.

Transformers had a plot?

[genesis_pig]

A base which houses the main villain. His lackeys attack, he is free... action moves to city. Main hero/leader of good guys is made to look like he will sacrifice his life, but that doesn't happen.
Also Allspark & Tesseract, one opens a cosmic gateway or something, while the other would help transform the earth into a planet like theirs.

[-KhaN-]

http://i.imgur.com/rtXSk.gif


Wow...First of all then every 3 movie in the world took Transformers story...Who lied to you that Iron Man was leader?Are you thinking about him?So every opening of cosmic gates was ripping of Transformers?Then X-Men:Last stand also ripping off Transformers I mean they also have main villain in their base,she attacks and escapes,so is that also ripping of?"Action moves to city",well you know with alien invasions that kind of shi* happens you know,aliens tend to attack city's.It is kinda stupid I must say that you find this as a ripping off Transformers...I didn't know that every object that opens cosmic gate was stolen from Transformers,well I think there is more than 100 movies with plot that you just explained...Main villain escaping his prison,yea Transformers invented that,you know Loki,the trickster,he kinda loves to escape...I'm kinda frozen with this kind of explanation.

[genesis_pig]

firstly I think Transformers is as average as Avengers. And my response was to the guy who said it changed the tandard for superhero movies.

And the idea that action deliberately moves to city, doesn't it seem clichéd, jusr cos action in the city would look better in cities than base. Avengers action could have ended on the base itself, as it is it was floating in the sky.

And many movies show similar things, but what I wrote above is just comparing those 2 movies, so getting a third movie in between with just one point, is not what I had in mind, if I did, my post would have been longer, & you would be frozen far too long. Right?

[genesis_pig]

and Tony Stark was the leader cos he got paid the most, & hence they decided he should be all through out the film the most.... ohh ya, & doesn't he tell the rest what to do in the end.

[-KhaN-]

firstly I think Transformers is as average as Avengers. And my response was to the guy who said it changed the tandard for superhero movies.

And the idea that action deliberately moves to city, doesn't it seem clichéd, jusr cos action in the city would look better in cities than base. Avengers action could have ended on the base itself, as it is it was floating in the sky.

And many movies show similar things, but what I wrote above is just comparing those 2 movies, so getting a third movie in between with just one point, is not what I had in mind, if I did, my post would have been longer, & you would be frozen far too long. Right?

Comparing Avengers and Transformers is wrong...You are comparing some random stuff,if that is how you compare movies there is at least 100 titles out there that have same plot...It is superhero action movie.You can compare as much as you want,it dosen't make you right,then you can say that every Marvel comic is ripping off DC,why not,they also have superheroes...

And you needed to be ass in the end...
http://i.imgur.com/mNKxv.gif

[-KhaN-]

and Tony Stark was the leader cos he got paid the most, & hence they decided he should be all through out the film the most.... ohh ya, & doesn't he tell the rest what to do in the end.

Ummm,I thought SHIELD(Nick) was in charge?Captain America also told them what to do sometimes so did Nick and rest of SHIELD.Then TDK is having same plot:Base(prison)that holds villain,yes...He gets free,yes...Action moves to city,yes...Main hero/leader of good guys is made to look like he will sacrifice his life, but that doesn't happen,yes...TDK is having all things you say,only that gate opening is missing so is that a ripping off also?

[Sleezy]

A base which houses the main villain. His lackeys attack, he is free... action moves to city. Main hero/leader of good guys is made to look like he will sacrifice his life, but that doesn't happen.
Also Allspark & Tesseract, one opens a cosmic gateway or something, while the other would help transform the earth into a planet like theirs.

You know, I have to agree with this. When you get down to it, a lot of these films are pretty formulaic and derivative of each other. Thank you for calling particular attention to these reverse MacGuffin plot lines in sci-fi/superhero films, where the villain is trying to obtain some "artifact" in order to unleash it and bring a darkness over the world, which (of course) we know will be foiled by the heroes at the final moment. It might serve to show off the entertainment chops of headline actors, but from a narrative standpoint it's not terribly interesting. After seeing a few of these "like" films, you start to feel like you've seen this already.

Ummm,I thought SHIELD(Nick) was in charge?Captain America also told them what to do sometimes so did Nick and rest of SHIELD.

I think what he's saying is that a greater emphasis was placed on Tony Stark in the movie because Robert Downey Jr. was the most popular (and highest-paid) name on the poster. I do think Joss Whedon and company did a nice job of featuring him prominently without making him the "leader" and circumventing the customary hierarchy of importance (although I don't see Chris Evans' Captain America ever feeling like the true leader of the team).

The X-Men films, by contrast, tend to lean on Hugh Jackman's Wolverine, making him feel like a "leader" more so than he's really supposed to be. But that's largely because Wolverine is wildly more popular than any other X-Man and Hugh Jackman is without doubt a leading man.

[-KhaN-]

You know, I have to agree with this. When you get down to it, a lot of these films are pretty formulaic and derivative of each other. Thank you for calling particular attention to these reverse MacGuffin plot lines in sci-fi/superhero films, where the villain is trying to obtain some "artifact" in order to unleash it and bring a darkness over the world, which (of course) we know will be foiled by the heroes at the final moment. It might serve to show off the entertainment chops of headline actors, but from a narrative standpoint it's not terribly interesting. After seeing a few of these "like" films, you start to feel like you've seen this already.

I never said movies of Superhero genre are not similar but it is different thing to say that they are similar and another thing is to say that they are ripping off Transformers,every mindless action movie is similar but that dosent mean they are ripping off each other...Similarity and ripping off is not same thing,that is what I want to say!

[Sleezy]

Depends on your definition of "ripping of," I guess. Making a derivative film, in a sense, means ripping off another film. Are filmmakers stealing scenes and repeating them verbatim in their own films? No. Are they repeating the tone, feel, pacing, and even sometimes order of scenes to mirror other successful films? Yes.

Still, this happens so commonly and is so seemingly accepted in the film industry that nobody really cries foul. Personally, I don't care to make a distinction one way or the other. I just don't want to see an endless string of films that are so similar, I feel like I'm watching the same thing over and over again. This particularly bugs me when filmmakers start making films that are derivative of their own work. Christopher Nolan, for example, is a great filmmaker. But all of his films so far has a "like" quality. The color palette and lighting, the pacing, the music, the circuitous scripts, even the cast: they all start to mirror each other. Some people can't get enough, but I find myself getting a bit bored.

[genesis_pig]

Finally someone got what I was saying.
I just compared it to Transformers sarcastically replying to that guy who spoke about changing standards.

And like I said lot more movies can be brought into comparison, but I don't want to go there.

[The Gunslinger45]

Considering there are only so many kinds of stories to be told, it is not surprising certain movies share certain elements. Both are mega blockbusters who annihilate box office numbers and have heavy emphasis on action and more then a little CGI.

BUT Avengers is easily a far superior film IMO to Transformers. The Avengers has much more likable characters portrayed by far superior and charismatic actors.

I mean really who do you want to watch a movie with. This guy?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7fy1QHy3IAc/Teu5_tIhV0I/AAAAAAAAABQ/metKqcM6gYQ/s1600/shia-labeouf.jpg


Or THIS guy?
http://images.contactmusic.com/newsimages/robert_downey_jr_as_iron_man_1314174.jpg

To top it off The Avengers is just more fun. And the attempts at humor from Joss Whedon are actually funny, unlike the out off place humor Bay inserted into a movie about giant robots.

[genesis_pig]

True, Avengers is a better film. That's cos Transformers hardly had any good actors besides John Turturro.
Avengers could afford a bigger & better cast, also most of the Avengers cast has starred in their own movie which was successful as a standalone film. So you can't really compare them both. Noone would would watch a standalone movie based on Shia as his character. & You could keep changing the lead Transformers & people wouldn't care, as long as Optimus & Bumblebee continue to be in it & they are not real life actors.

So I really won't compare Avengers to Transformers in terms of cast or characters, the scope is different for both. But yes you could compare CG Optimus to CG Hulk.. CG Hulk wins, but that's not entirely cos of Avengers movie, Hulk rocks no matter what, the idea of that character is cool no matter what.

[genesis_pig]

My biggest problem with the Avengers & X-men was how the most successful character hogs screentime & importance. Like Sleezy, pointed out Wolverine did the same with X-men.

You know, I never found Cyclops a good character, but as a leader he was always great. That was his thing, if Professor X was good at delivering speeches, Cyclops was good at leading a team. COnsidering how diverse the X-men team was in terms of each one's abilities. Wolverine was always good as the gaijin rebel. But the movies always sidelined Cyclops. That's why I loved X-men: First Class, each character was as cool as they should be.

[-KhaN-]

My biggest problem with the Avengers & X-men was how the most successful character hogs screentime & importance. Like Sleezy, pointed out Wolverine did the same with X-men.

You know, I never found Cyclops a good character, but as a leader he was always great. That was his thing, if Professor X was good at delivering speeches, Cyclops was good at leading a team. COnsidering how diverse the X-men team was in terms of each one's abilities. Wolverine was always good as the gaijin rebel. But the movies always sidelined Cyclops. That's why I loved X-men: First Class, each character was as cool as they should be.

OK we are getting to understand each other :) ...My whole point was that ripping of and similarity is not same thing,you know when you say ripping off that sounds kinda bad,that is all I wanted to say.Now on this leader thing,you are correct that Logan seems like leader and Tony seems like leader of Avengers but they are not leaders by the script and by movie itself,yea RDJ and Jackman are getting the most screen time but that is different thing,I just rewatched X-Men series so memories are not old,they tried to make Cyclops a leader type,he did lead team in movie,they said few times he was supposed to be leader of everything after Professor.I just want to say they were not leaders by the story,script,leading actors and leaders of teams in story is not same thing.

[The Gunslinger45]

My biggest problem with the Avengers & X-men was how the most successful character hogs screentime & importance. Like Sleezy, pointed out Wolverine did the same with X-men.

You know, I never found Cyclops a good character, but as a leader he was always great. That was his thing, if Professor X was good at delivering speeches, Cyclops was good at leading a team. COnsidering how diverse the X-men team was in terms of each one's abilities. Wolverine was always good as the gaijin rebel. But the movies always sidelined Cyclops. That's why I loved X-men: First Class, each character was as cool as they should be.

I think the Avengers did a pretty good job for the characters screen time wise. Everyone got to have their moments in the film with a really bad ass scene or scenes. The only character I feel got shorted at all was Hawkeye.

No arguments on the X-Men movie though. Jackman was front and center.

[genesis_pig]

But I rarely recall doing any leading, in the first movie Cyclops had a decent role, but he was hardly tactician he is known for.
Second and third movie he was hardly there. It has nothing to do with who the leading man was or the popular one, Cyclops wasn't the Cyclops he should have been.
In TMNT, Leonardo is either the appointed, self-appointed or presumed leader. So, they do play around with that well onscreen especially the conflict it establishes with Raphael. Raphael does assume the role of a leader or even the leading man for that matter, but the group order remains the way it should.

Now on the other hand, you have the Ghostbusters, is Venkman the leader.. hardly, but he does like to think of himself as one, but he is a true leading man of the film.
So I do agree there is a difference between the two. But Avengers script makes Ironman the leader not in service to the story but popularity, but they do know Capt America is always the true leader figure in the comics, so they resort to in-jokes and humorous hints and still manages to keep their moneymaking hero in the front

But the scripts do throw in a joke or two for the fanboy pleasure, stuff like "who made you leader?", "He is supposed to be the one calling the shots"..

[Yoda]

Saw this. Had to share.

https://i.imgur.com/dcfZMuy.gif

[TONGO]

Awesome!

They were teasing the next villain is Thanos at the end of the Avengers movie, but now I heard their next opponent is Ultron. :confused: Wonder what the deal is.

[Holden Pike]

Have you seen the subsequent Marvel movies since The Avengers? The tease reveal of Thanos has been accompanied by gathering/identifying The Infinity Stones in more teases. Once the six gems are gathered by The Collector, and whoever else is working in conjunction with Thanos, and the Infinity Gauntlet is fully powered, THEN Thanos will be the main villain in the movie. At this rate, likely the third Avengers flick.

http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=13864&stc=1&d=1398186893

[TONGO]

Have you seen the subsequent Marvel movies since The Avengers? The tease reveal of Thanos has been accompanied by gathering/identifying The Infinity Stones in more teases. Once the six gems are gathered by The Collector, and whoever else is working in conjunction with Thanos, and the Infinity Gauntlet is fully powered, THEN Thanos will be the main villain in the movie. At this rate, likely the third Avengers flick.

http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=13864&stc=1&d=1398186893

Only Marvel movies I saw after Avengers was IM 3 and Thor 2. Appreciate the answer, but I dont know what Im more stunned by. The fact that hollywood is actually developing an epic storyline correctly (The Infinity Gauntlet is one of the most popular Marvel story-arcs ever) or the fact that you know who The Collector is. ;) Never took you for a reader.

[Holden Pike]

I have boxes and boxes of comic books.

Did you not see The Collector, played by Benicio Del Toro, at the end of Thor: The Dark World? And he will be a part of Guardians of the Galaxy, later this summer. How could this have possibly escaped your attention?

http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=13865&stc=1&d=1398192782

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89q_HH-3ghk

[TONGO]

What?! He was at the end of Thor Dark World?! Im rewatching it. Oh hell I must have forgot to wait till the end of the credits.

I HAD boxes and boxes of comic books, but sold them (for profit) throughout my life. My biggest pride was owning all the Thors and Journey Into Mysterys except for 50 scattered issues. Didnt have his first appearance (JIM #83), but had the opportunity to get a rough copy once for $50.00 .................but I was broke :(:(:(.

If you havent had the opportunity to read it, check out Jonathan Hickmans run on Fantastic Four. Truly beautiful stuff, and Jason Aarons Thor is the best comic coming out right now.

[Holden Pike]

The Marvel movies always have additional sequences, both during and after the credits. Again, how do you not know this? Have you seen Captain America: The Winter Soldier, yet?

[TONGO]

I must have forgot.

I have great shame.

[TONGO]

Have you seen Captain America: The Winter Soldier, yet?

Not yet but I know its supposed to be the "must see" of all the super hero movies (Very familiar with storyline). Even better than Iron Man 1?

I saw the end credits on YouTube of Benicio Del Toros Collector at the end of Thor Dark World. He's a great Collector! :yup: Think he might run away with that character and do more with it than Marvel could, kinda like Downeys Tony Stark.

[Zotis]

https://i.imgur.com/dcfZMuy.gif

Awesome! That was better than the movie!

[LiaBens]

While browsing Facebook i found this funny picture, hope you will like.

http://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/10347072_291588097676329_3001991811412867122_n.jpg

[davidperry]

The Avengers 1st movie was great even it's another part is not better than 1st movie, steve rogers did nice work in it's another part but i don't like story, i always like steve rogers style he shows very nice style and dressing when ever he comes on screen, i was eager to find dressing like him then i reached FilmStarJackets from where i found it......

[Yoda]

This doesn't do the complete loop (sadface), but this shot always gives me goosebumps:

http://now-here-this.timeout.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/tumblr_m4376dLOpj1qzgj88o1_500.gif

[The Gunslinger45]

Best shot in the flick.