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cat_sidhe
08-02-18, 02:10 PM
Seriously though. I'm currently trying to turn a few mental corners here myself hoping to find a path. Cutting back on my poor eating patterns and downing vitamins like cocaine is a tiny baby step enough for me. Next comes exercise. *cries*
You know you can always hit me up for motivation. <3 Promise I won't yell. Much. :blush:
You know you can always hit me up for motivation. <3 Promise I won't yell. Much. :blush:
Yes.
Terrible cucumber pills. got it!
I use to do an hour on an exercise bike, but have fallen off that due to time. I wake up at 5:30 AM, drive to work, finish at 5:00 PM, get home around 7:00 PM, eat dinner, see the kid, relax for a bit and before I know it I go to sleep.
So currently.....ZERO.
I plan on getting back into that exercise bike routine though, it helps that Netflix is right there to keep my attention going. I watched all of Santa Clarita Diet on the bike.
Thank for the great responses everyone. My first step is cutting out the fast food and working from there.
It can definitely be hard to find time for exercise. I was always a pretty sedentary person, in part due to my choice in hobbies (gaming, reading etc.) and in part due to the fact that for most of my life, I was able to rely on a fairly overactive metabolism to stay relatively fit. Alas, age finally caught up with me, and I started to turn into the dreaded fat skinny guy - Tall and skinny but with a gut. It didn't bother me at first, but the change in body and advancing age started to affect my energy levels. I decided it was time for a change.
A while back I started an exercise program that is designed to be fairly intense for a short period of time per day (under an hour) for 5 days a week, with two rest days, as well as extra stuff to tack on if you are able. So far, it has completely changed both my wife's and my life. It's geared to make people more fit and athletic, as opposed to being centered around power-lifting or things of that nature. It also has a ton of nutrition advice, none of which revolves around portion control or depleted eating. It all sort of clicked in rather easily, actually. The cool thing is how every day is different, so boredom never sets in.
I won't bore you with details now, but the short and focused high-intensity work-outs combined with some adjustments to our diet were easy to implement and start providing results almost immediately. Let me know if you want to know more about it and I can post a few bits of advice.
doubledenim
08-02-18, 03:27 PM
Anyone has any suggestions? Any food I should immediately start adding to my diet? Vegetables and fruit I imagine are big ones as I don't normally eat those. I'll mainly eat bananas, grapes or apples, but nothing else.
Seeing as how you asked and I never talk about this stuff :rolleyes: .
Some people may disagree, but fruit is not as healthy as we are led to believe because of its sugar content. Vegetables will give you vitamins and fiber, without the mental triggers that sugar activates.
If weight loss is a goal, cut out the grains. If you still need something, do whole grain rice. Dairy is another big thing to cut out. When I cycle on weight gaining, dairy will make me gain like crazy. Plus, whey protein powder packs on vs. my vegan protein of the same protein count. Sugar is self explanatory.
It may sound crazy, but Minio and I do intermittent fasting and it does more for you than weight loss. It helps with your insulin sensitivity, energy levels and is "reported" to boost natural HGH levels. My biggest takeaway is how steady my energy and mood is now. I am a big pig when it comes to eating, but you will be surprised at how you will not be hungry after a while.
I eat a lot of peanuts and natural pb (no crisco and sugar like JIF and other national brands that I love). My dinners usually involve a vegetable, beans, and a meat if feel like it. The beans are really great. Northerns, pintos, black beans, even make your own refried with some tomato paste.
way past tldr...
doubledenim
08-02-18, 03:31 PM
Oh, I don't really "track" macros and that sort of thing. I did for a while till I got the hang of what the percentages of carb/protein/fat looked like in a typical day. And now I read ingredients on EVERYTHING, not just the carb counts. I'm excited to be getting back onto the keto wagon because of how great I felt, how good the blood work was, and maybe I'll lose more weight.
My sister tried to get me into counting macros, but that only works for people who can pay somebody else to do it for them :D . Way too much work for me.
Let me add that I have two habits that have kept me really healthy. (Diabetes aside, I have only only one head cold in the past 15 years... no other illnesses of any kind.) I drink LOTS of water. I always have water by my side. Just ice water. Nothing special. Tap water with ice. I'm fortunate that I love it. And I make sure I get enough sleep. I work from home so that's been pretty easy for me. I'm a night owl, and I just had to learn not to feel guilty about "sleeping in" if I was up working till 2 a.m. or later. (Nothing against morning people, but it's amazing how judgmental folks can be if they hear you sleep late in the mornings... never bothering to ask when you stop working at night. "Buddy, I stop working when you're about halfway through your nightly sleep.")
Quoting this in hopes people read it twice. Water and sleep. Very important.
Austruck
08-02-18, 04:06 PM
My sister tried to get me into counting macros, but that only works for people who can pay somebody else to do it for them :D . Way too much work for me.
Which is why I don't do it. But if you simply pay attention to ingredients and ratios in the beginning, you'll get a feel for how much of each category (protein, carbs, fat) is about right. It was really becoming second nature when I went into that spiral of road trips that threw me off.
Oh, going back to TUS's original post from nearly seven years ago (!!), I suffered from IBS symptoms too for several years. Tried Plexus products, other probiotics, Activia yogurt, all sorts of things. Got rid of this or that food trigger. Nothing helped. It was ruining my life.
The keto (which also meant taking magnesium supplements) cleared up ALL symptoms. Like, I'm back to being a normal person and can schedule my day normally.
So, TUS, this way of eating has really been quite the answer for me. Might want to look into it. I hadn't expected that benefit, but once it happened, I found a lot of other folks who experienced the same relief with this change.
Austruck
08-02-18, 04:14 PM
Quoting this in hopes people read it twice. Water and sleep. Very important.
Thanks. It's SO TRUE. And the more I read about the importance of sleep, the more I'm convinced and the less I feel guilty about getting enough sleep. TOO MANY people wear sleep deprivation like a badge of honor. Like, what? You're a better person because you give yourself only 4-6 hours of sleep? That's ridiculous. I'd say taking proper care of the one body you're given should kinda be a priority.
Plus, they're finding that folks who artificially cut back on their sleep thinking they'll get more work done NEVER actually get more work done in the long run. They end up far less efficient and foggier than folks who are routinely getting enough sleep. And I've seen it in my own case. I NEVER have those midday lulls or desires for a nap that so many folks complain about. Never. I can't remember the last time I took a nap, or even wanted one. When I'm awake, I'm AWAKE and alert. Once in a while you'll see me yawn at weird times of day, but I think that's breathing-related and not sleep related.
I urge everyone who is not losing sleep due to issues beyond their control to make sleep a priority.
On top of this is a related issue: a day of rest. I HIGHLY recommend taking one day of rest per week. It's one of the Ten Commandments for a reason. :) Seriously, right up there with not murdering and not committing adultery and not stealing is TAKING A DAY OF REST.
It's tough at first if you're used to using that seventh day to get stuff done (probably because you don't get enough sleep during the week, ha ha), but once you "get" it, it's a glorious thing that helps balance your health (mental, emotional, and physical health). And if you ARE short on sleep, that one day can be a nap-time day too.
Okay, off my soapbox. I'm 57 years old and I've had to learn too many things the hard way. Hoping you younger folks get things right a lot sooner than I did.
doubledenim
08-02-18, 05:23 PM
I wholeheartedly agree on the sleep. I make the time for 7 hours, but it doesn't take.
Water is a big thing, but is hard to do without the benefit of an office job or being retired. A thought on water consumption is you should go to the loo every hour with a clear stream. Hard to do if you stand on a spot or can't get frequent bathroom breaks.
Austruck
08-02-18, 11:48 PM
Yeah, the darker your stream, the more dehydrated you are. Should be as close to clear as possible. :) And yeah, hubby works at a nuke plant and there are days when they don't really have time or the situation to get a lunch break, let alone frequent potty breaks or water breaks. I hate that about his job. :(
You don't look that old. ;)
Pictures lie :yup:
TheUsualSuspect
08-03-18, 11:10 AM
It can definitely be hard to find time for exercise. I was always a pretty sedentary person, in part due to my choice in hobbies (gaming, reading etc.) and in part due to the fact that for most of my life, I was able to rely on a fairly overactive metabolism to stay relatively fit. Alas, age finally caught up with me, and I started to turn into the dreaded fat skinny guy - Tall and skinny but with a gut. It didn't bother me at first, but the change in body and advancing age started to affect my energy levels. I decided it was time for a change.
A while back I started an exercise program that is designed to be fairly intense for a short period of time per day (under an hour) for 5 days a week, with two rest days, as well as extra stuff to tack on if you are able. So far, it has completely changed both my wife's and my life. It's geared to make people more fit and athletic, as opposed to being centered around power-lifting or things of that nature. It also has a ton of nutrition advice, none of which revolves around portion control or depleted eating. It all sort of clicked in rather easily, actually. The cool thing is how every day is different, so boredom never sets in.
I won't bore you with details now, but the short and focused high-intensity work-outs combined with some adjustments to our diet were easy to implement and start providing results almost immediately. Let me know if you want to know more about it and I can post a few bits of advice.
The wife and I did the INSANITY workout. We did the first month and took a week break before going after the second month, which is more intense. But then I got the flu....and we never did that second month because when I get sick, I'm sick for awhile. So we just kind of fell off that.
In addition to that workout...we never changed our eating habits. So it kind of cancelled each other out in a way I think.
The wife and I did the INSANITY workout. We did the first month and took a week break before going after the second month, which is more intense. But then I got the flu....and we never did that second month because when I get sick, I'm sick for awhile. So we just kind of fell off that.
In addition to that workout...we never changed our eating habits. So it kind of cancelled each other out in a way I think.
The guy that created our program (Jeff Cavaliere - he is the personal trainer for some pro athletes like Antonio Brown) says that the diet aspect is more important than all the rest, and for some, the hardest aspect to adjust to.
100% true. Most weight loss happens via diet, not exercise. Exercise is better for health than weight. It's harder to find time for, it makes you hungrier, and it saps some of the will power that would've been spent eating better.
Changing your diet first is way, way more sustainable. I'd strongly advise introducing modest regular exercise, like short walks, while focusing more on eating habits, and maybe introduce more intensive stuff after awhile.
doubledenim
08-06-18, 09:57 AM
I drank a glass of milk before bed and sleep through the night for the first time in weeks. Or was it something else? Ima do it as long as it works.
Stirchley
08-06-18, 03:57 PM
That’s because all dairy products contain tryptophan, which relaxes you & makes you sleepy.
doubledenim
08-06-18, 05:58 PM
I mean, I guess. I went and got some melatonin and it makes me sleepy, but I don't stay asleep. I always get tired and fall right out, it just doesn't last long.
Maybe I need a 30lb / 13kg comforter to sleep under?
doubledenim
08-11-18, 07:00 AM
If we believe stuff we read on the internet.
My sleep issues may be attributed to the increased hormone levels from fasting. The increase in noradrenaline/norepinephrine levels seem to have an effect on sleep time.
In theory, if we think of humans in a primal setting...eating infrequently...would they ever sleep for 7-8 hours if these hormone levels are elevated?
I guess I can do an update. I'm still struggling to get completely healthy, but I'm making more of an effort right now. I'm realizing the hardest thing for me to conquer is cravings. I was going out for fast food daily, even sometimes twice a day, for a while. This last week, I went three times. That is not healthy I know, but it's better.
I'm also working to cut out caffeine and sugary drinks.
I am going to exercise classes with my friend. The first two I went to last week were great with only my friend and I and one other person (and obviously the teacher), and led to a one and one session with the teacher, who may become my personal trainer. I appreciate how he works with me because he is focusing on the overall picture - my life, mental well-being, stress and anxiety - instead of just fitness. The third class was at a different location, with more people and a different teacher. Didn't like that one as much. Filled with people who just want to go as hard as they can - I felt one guy constantly looking down on me ("this is just the warm up!"). I am pretty sure I over exerted myself because that was Thursday and my abs are still a bit sore.
I think working on reducing stress and anxiety will play a big part towards my progress.
Mr Minio
10-22-18, 01:30 AM
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doubledenim
10-22-18, 02:02 AM
I guess I can do an update. I'm still struggling to get completely healthy, but I'm making more of an effort right now. I'm realizing the hardest thing for me to conquer is cravings. I was going out for fast food daily, even sometimes twice a day, for a while. This last week, I went three times. That is not healthy I know, but it's better.
I'm also working to cut out caffeine and sugary drinks.
I am going to exercise classes with my friend. The first two I went to last week were great with only my friend and I and one other person (and obviously the teacher), and led to a one and one session with the teacher, who may become my personal trainer. I appreciate how he works with me because he is focusing on the overall picture - my life, mental well-being, stress and anxiety - instead of just fitness. The third class was at a different location, with more people and a different teacher. Didn't like that one as much. Filled with people who just want to go as hard as they can - I felt one guy constantly looking down on me ("this is just the warm up!"). I am pretty sure I over exerted myself because that was Thursday and my abs are still a bit sore.
I think working on reducing stress and anxiety will play a big part towards my progress.
That is great to hear. I can understand the public exercise angle, it's not for me in addition to the time angle vs. exercise at home. If I had to go to a gym, I doubt I would stick with it. I'm too neurotic (waiting for equipment, distractions, sometime you gotta scream to get that last rep :blush:) and my concentration would get broken too easy.
I will pound the drum on food being like drugs until I die. I do "the sugar" one day a week and even then, it can get pretty scary. Trying is the most important thing. The hardest time with any of this is the beginning. Like most things in life, it gets so much easier the longer you try.
doubledenim
10-22-18, 02:20 AM
I have a confession to make. I always scoffed at people (not those with Celiac's disease) talking about gluten and wheat allergies. It always seemed to come from moms in yoga pants with double strollers or a barista with a sick man bun and a golden girls neck tattoo who has been vegan since he was 4.
Well. I'm a believer now. I use to be a champion of the PB on WW sandwich and would consume 2-3 a day. Throw in a whole grain cereal and I was beyond regular. Why did I often feel hungover. Take away the headache or nausea, but insert the lethargy and feeling of walking into the wind all day. I never could figure out how I can eat reasonably healthy and feel like crap. I started thinking there must be a mental angle. Is my mood affecting my energy? Is this simply a mind over matter issue?
Well. I may be wrong, cuz I'm not a doctor and that Holiday Inn Express joke is way past its expiration date. I can't tell you how different I feel. Even on the days I'm tired, it is in the background, not a frontline battle all day. The mentals, I can't even explain. I liken it to finding a groove playing music, being in rhythm in a video game, or when your golf swing is pure. Everything is fluid and seems to roll off my fingertips into fruition.
F'n wheat man.
Man, today is the first day in a while I have waken up pumped for life. I was getting really down on myself, thinking it was too late to do anything significant, nobody liked me, stuff like that. The modern world will really eat your soul if you allow it to. Anyway, this morning I did my new morning routine, and I think more than anything just having that little bit of structure back in my life is what helps most of all.
I mean, I guess. I went and got some melatonin and it makes me sleepy, but I don't stay asleep. I always get tired and fall right out, it just doesn't last long.
Maybe I need a 30lb / 13kg comforter to sleep under?
This all sounds like me. Fasting or eating less=less ability to slep enough.
Physical movement plus calorie cutting seemd to be the ticket. Maybe a few blue chips before bed
Swan is there anywhere you can walk private enough to hum into a multitrack handheld?
Replace breakfast n lunch w raw organic meal replacement chocolate powder.
Eat a bangin dinner. During day walk 4 to 6 miles and while walking, think and imagine, get crestive
Creative i mesn
Use hand held multitrack to record songs with voice.
Transpose w instruments later if even necesarry
calorie cutting is bad
Why do u say that
I guess that's true if that's literally all you're doing, IE: just eating less, but otherwise still eating badly and being utterly sedentary, but that's pretty rare, I think. Most people combine it with eating better stuff.
Anyway, counting calories is pretty darn effective, in my experience, particularly when trying to form new habits.
Why do u say that
I believe it can slow your metabolism and can harm your body as it can't function well without enough calories or nutrients.
You have to truck your body. Graze. Less calories but more food. Ie..replacement shake..a little later an apple egg or string cheese. Shake again then walnuts later, then solid dinner all the while moving. Keeps your survival mode from going into fst store then eats fst reserves for energy as long as protein comes in for muscle maintenance. Water is huge to transport nutrients.
I believe it can slow your metabolism
I'm not sure that's inherently bad, especially if it's not permanent.
and can harm your body as it can't function well without enough calories or nutrients.
Well, it's not functioning without calories, it's just getting them from fat stores. This is why people lose weight rather than, ya' know, die. :laugh:
As for nutrients, sure, but you don't have to cut nutrients (particularly essential ones) to cut calories.
cat_sidhe
10-22-18, 04:44 PM
I think it's a bit different for each body. I my job I have a lot of people asking me what's the best for....whatever it is they're suffering and I always feel like a tool telling them, honestly, it's a crap shoot with a lot of stuff. It's up to what your body likes.
I find it the most relevant with natural anti inflammatories. That's so body personal it's ridiculous running around recommending stuff. We all lead such different lives, including what we eat that it affects practically everything.
Stirchley
10-22-18, 04:44 PM
Anyway, counting calories is pretty darn effective, in my experience, particularly when trying to form new habits.
Heck, yes. But I am all for daily exercise as well. I don’t believe an ideal weight can be maintained without consistent exercise.
I know people who stay thin with basically no exercise, so I'd say it's extremely person-dependent.
Might also depend on how broad the term is, though, IE: whether "exercise" means something fairly intense or prolonged, or really just means "not completely sedentary."
Stirchley
10-22-18, 04:53 PM
Not an ideal goal to be “thin”. I think a minimum of 30 minutes of some kind of exercise is the least one can do daily. I walk for about 1-1/2 to 2 hours daily & this works well for me. I’m a vegetarian & I try hard not to over-indulge in carbs (which I love) & I am slim. So I am happy.
If I wasn’t afraid of water I would swim daily, which is a great exercise since everything is moving. Running I hate with a passion. Would not go to a gym even if you paid me.
So, as you say, person-dependent. Everyone needs to find something they can stick with without feeling deprived & unhappy.
doubledenim
10-22-18, 04:56 PM
I vouch for trying it all until something works.
- I've always been thin, ya know skinny with flab :) . Doing IF without cutting carbs and same type of exercise has me knocking 2 shy of a six pack.
- No caffeine after the first few hours of the day. If I get in bed early, I can be dead to the world for 7-8 hours.
- F that wheat, sez the Doughnut King.
cat_sidhe
10-22-18, 05:02 PM
I'm not sure that's inherently bad, especially if it's not permanent.
Chili. That'll speed your metabolism up. :D I mean real chili. Start with cayenne and build up to as far as you can. Combine that with green tea extract. Boom. :D
I know people who stay thin with basically no exercise, so I'd say it's extremely person-dependent.
Might also depend on how broad the term is, though, IE: whether "exercise" means something fairly intense or prolonged, or really just means "not completely sedentary."
I used to be this way, but not anymore! If I don't exercise regularly, I start to develop a bit of a gut. Not huge, but I am tall and thin as it is, so it kind of makes me look like some weird fat skinny guy. Meanwhile, I have gotten myself into pretty good shape over the summer - now I just need to keep it going!
When I started trying to do the Athlean X-100 challenge (100 push-ups, 100 sit-ups, 100 body-weight squats, 100 inverted rows) in as little time as possible, the first time I tried it, I came in at 28:34! Yikes! That was pretty bad, and I kept getting gassed and would have to rest for minutes at a time. Now I do it in about 14:25. I still get pretty gassed, but I have seen big improvement. Cardio is still my number one issue, which is pretty normal for a fellow my age, I guess.
Yeah, most of the people I know who fit that description, I should add, were/are under 40, or even 30. :laugh: I imagine it becomes less viable over time, particularly if exercise is defined broadly (IE: moderate walking).
so low carb/high fat or high fat/low carb?
Yeah, most of the people I know who fit that description, I should add, were/are under 40, or even 30. :laugh: I imagine it becomes less viable over time, particularly if exercise is defined broadly (IE: moderate walking).
I have settled into a routine of 3 days of weight training, broken up by two days of cardio/burst training, and two days of rest with no exercise activity. I usually sit around watching flicks on those days. ;)
Hold on I need to eat this taco...
OK, moving on!
Sometimes on the cardio days, we go for a fast walk for about 3-4 miles total. It;s starting to get cold though, so some adjustment to more indoor based cardio stuff will happen soon.
so low carb/high fat or high fat/low carb?
I'm not sure I understand the significance of switching the order.
I started off by emphasizing protein and avoiding carbs. I still mostly do that, but I think more of total calories now. But it happens naturally anyway, since most of the things you need to eat to not be hungry while still keeping calories low end up being pretty high in protein.
Fruit is the notable exception: I find a piece of fruit in the middle of the day makes a huge difference. Especially apples. I expect the fiber has a lot to do with it.
cat_sidhe
10-22-18, 05:29 PM
I know people who stay thin with basically no exercise, so I'd say it's extremely person-dependent.
That's when listening to the body comes in. Sometimes, it knows sub-zero degrees is coming and I'm not going to have a good time of it slightly underweight as I am. I'm not RAKE thin but sometimes someone refers to me as that. I'm DEFINITELY not rake thin, but I'm definitely on the small side. I'm vegetarian but not vegan, so no flesh, but I do a bit of dairy as long as it's got all the eco stamps etc. (which yes I know is probably bull****). Anyway. In the summer I shed weight. My body wants fresh stuff then, makes sense.
Then if you have the principle of keeping the nicer dried fruits in the house instead of chocolate, etc etc if you're wanting to snack, it's easy to maintain a decent weight without exercising your arse off.
I'm not sure I understand the significance of switching the order.
I started off by emphasizing protein and avoiding carbs. I still mostly do that, but I think more of total calories now. But it happens naturally anyway, since most of the things you need to eat to not be hungry while still keeping calories low end up being pretty high in protein.
Fruit is the notable exception: I find a piece of fruit in the middle of the day makes a huge difference. Especially apples. I expect the fiber has a lot to do with it.
typo lol
I meant high fat/low carb vs high carb/low fat
Yeah, I very much believe in general truths about this stuff, but I've definitely become a bigger believer in the "do what works for you" thing. In most cases the math/effectiveness stuff is accurate and applies to almost everyone, but as they say, the best diet is the one you stick to. What literally works and what "works" in the sense of being sustainable for a specific person are different things.
For example, I know on paper it's supposed to be very important to eat a good breakfast, but I find it very hard to do that and still stick to a good, sustainable diet. It seems to spur my hunger. I'm sure it's good advice with some sound science behind it, but for whatever reason I find it difficult to do, and I've found I can structure my day differently, and it seems to work, so I give the fact of it working priority over what's generally ideal for a non-specific person.
typo lol
I meant high fat/low carb vs high carb/low fat
Thought so, but wasn't sure! :)
I guess I'd say protein more than fat, but yeah, low carb in general. I think if you figure out what works health and weight wise, though, you're fairly likely to end up with that kind of skew, even if you're not explicitly trying to deemphasize carbs.
cat_sidhe
10-22-18, 05:39 PM
For example, I know on paper it's supposed to be very important to eat a good breakfast, but I find it very hard to do that
Leo, I believe? :D
I have no idea what to think honestly. The health nut in my family advises super high carb veganism but I am definitely not doing that
cat_sidhe
10-22-18, 05:41 PM
I have no idea what to think honestly. The health nut in my family advises super high carb veganism but I am definitely not doing that
Listen to your body. It'll show you what it doesn't like.
cat_sidhe
10-22-18, 05:44 PM
When your body craves something, listen to it. OF COURSE within reason. I'm not talking a kilo of chocolate here. But something, you crave iron so bad you can taste blood in your mouth.
For vegetarians, that's when we hit **** like lentils, and seitan (OH THE MEMES) and things that take that iron craving away. Meat eaters, well...eat it medium.
Stirchley
10-22-18, 05:48 PM
I started off by emphasizing protein and avoiding carbs. I still mostly do that, but I think more of total calories now. But it happens naturally anyway, since most of the things you need to eat to not be hungry while still keeping calories low end up being pretty high in protein.
I love protein. When my blood sugar starts to plunge (because I’m very hungry) protein does the trick quickly.
For example, I know on paper it's supposed to be very important to eat a good breakfast, but I find it very hard to do that and still stick to a good, sustainable diet.
Breakfast is my favorite meal. I have zero interest in dinner so I no longer eat it. As you say, whatever works best for the individual is what works best.
I guess I'd say protein more than fat, but yeah, low carb in general.
I hate fat with a passion. Love carbs. But try to substitute protein instead.
cat_sidhe
10-22-18, 05:53 PM
Pssst. Yoda. You don't have to eat breakfast. That whole thing about breakfast being the most important meal of the day is BALONEY.
Just don't eat late at night. That's the only real rule, tbh. Makes sense because that's when asses are on couches. Lunch. Make a BIG DEAL about lunch. And then eat light af at dinner but not too late.
I happen to be somebody who is always skinny though, but external looks dont = internal health.
I happen to be somebody who is always skinny though, but external looks dont = internal health.
This is definitely a distinction I've had to make. I dropped a lot of weight, starting a few years ago, but learned quickly there was a difference between losing weight and getting in shape. The latter is coming, but it's much slower.
matt72582
10-22-18, 07:43 PM
I have zero interest in dinner so I no longer eat it.
Wow - I wake up and go at least 14-15 hours without eating, and I only eat then because I couldn't sleep unless I was really stuffed.
Pssst. Yoda. You don't have to eat breakfast. That whole thing about breakfast being the most important meal of the day is BALONEY.
Just don't eat late at night. That's the only real rule, tbh. Makes sense because that's when asses are on couches. Lunch. Make a BIG DEAL about lunch. And then eat light af at dinner but not too late.
Interesting. I'm kind of of the opinion that breakfast is an important meal. I always feel when I have a really good breakfast that my system is regulated throughout the day, including my hunger.
That said, there are so many "authority" figures and even non-authority figures telling people contradictory things about health that it's difficult to navigate what's true or not. You kind of just have to find what works for you.
Also re: calories. I'm not personally a fan of counting calories because it unnecessarily overcomplicates things for me. I just try to focus on eating the rights things and eating the appropriate amount i.e. not too much like a lot of people do nowadays.
Most of us have a pretty intuitive sense of how to eat healthier. All the crazy diets and calorie counting can be counterproductive, at least for me.
Yeah, I'd say all the general advice is a good starting point because it usually works for most people, but it makes sense to tweak it based on how it feels.
It does change over time, though. Calorie counting wasn't my thing at all early on, but after a year or so of weight loss I found it helped me break through another weight "plateau," so to speak. Part of it was the math angle, where I knew that if I ate fewer than X calories it was nearly impossible for me not to go down. That uncertainty was the main thing that frustrated me in the past, feeling like I was expending effort without necessarily seeing results, not being certain that effort would be reward, etc.
Anyway, just see what works, and keep reevaluating, since after awhile you really will be a different person, and have different challenges.
cat_sidhe
10-23-18, 01:07 PM
Interesting. I'm kind of of the opinion that breakfast is an important meal. I always feel when I have a really good breakfast that my system is regulated throughout the day, including my hunger.
That said, there are so many "authority" figures and even non-authority figures telling people contradictory things about health that it's difficult to navigate what's true or not. You kind of just have to find what works for you.
Yep. Bodies are different. :) I see it all the time with the natural anti-inflammatories. Some people swear by rosehip, others by curcumin or methylsulfonylmethane. :shrug: To me it appears as though everyone's bodies have personalities. Things they like and dislike.
Chypmunk
10-23-18, 01:09 PM
Counting calories totally works for me but then I'm a very slow counter so it leaves me relatively little time in which to actually eat anything.
Yeah, I'd say all the general advice is a good starting point because it usually works for most people, but it makes sense to tweak it based on how it feels.
It does change over time, though. Calorie counting wasn't my thing at all early on, but after a year or so of weight loss I found it helped me break through another weight "plateau," so to speak. Part of it was the math angle, where I knew that if I ate fewer than X calories it was nearly impossible for me not to go down. That uncertainty was the main thing that frustrated me in the past, feeling like I was expending effort without necessarily seeing results, not being certain that effort would be reward, etc.
Anyway, just see what works, and keep reevaluating, since after awhile you really will be a different person, and have different challenges.
It's a journey, isn't it? And yeah, there are definitely some common suggestions that work across the board, I agree. Not many will argue that vegetables are bad, for example.
I lost 30 lbs in 4 months just by staying under 1600 xalories for most thd week. Even if i went over 1600 it didnt matter because i work my butt off at my job. Lots of squattind dow, walking, lifting and repetitive movements involving constant repositioning with pivotal ankle movements.
doubledenim
10-23-18, 06:51 PM
Where is Minio at? :suspicious: I need somebody to vouch for the IF.
I have never done anything that made me feel this good. Not weight gaining, no carb, protein heavy, near vegetarian (or whatever you wanna label it), supplemented to the gills, none of it.
Doing IF is so easy. I don't count anything and I eat before I go to bed every night. I'm eating non-processed food for the most part with no sugar. My book shows my weight being within a 4 lb range for months. The energy is great. Hunger is not an issue and I am a face-stuffer. Better than I have felt in the past 20 years.
I'm not selling anything. I just think it makes things so easy and easy makes things stick.
Where is Minio at? :suspicious: I need somebody to vouch for the IF.
I have never done anything that made me feel this good. Not weight gaining, no carb, protein heavy, near vegetarian (or whatever you wanna label it), supplemented to the gills, none of it.
Doing IF is so easy. I don't count anything and I eat before I go to bed every night. I'm eating non-processed food for the most part with no sugar. My book shows my weight being within a 4 lb range for months. The energy is great. Hunger is not an issue and I am a face-stuffer. Better than I have felt in the past 20 years.
I'm not selling anything. I just think it makes things so easy and easy makes things stick.
ill bite..whats IF? ;)
doubledenim
10-24-18, 02:31 AM
Intermittent Fasting (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermittent_fasting)
Beyond the weight benefits it helps with your insulin sensitivity which is a huge benefit. I was initially sold when I heard that George St. Pierre (MMA fighter) uses it and extolled its virtue.
My experience has been that the hunger is a non-issue after the first day or two and my energy is not subject to peaks and valleys now. It just made sense when I thought about how primitive humans wouldn't have had food stores, but still need the energy to hunt even if they hadn't fed recently.
Well, the weight is starting to go down again. I may have lost five pounds since last week, though it's more likely around three.
I remember that month I lost 24 pounds, that was the best month. But I think I charged into it and burnt myself out. Hopefully this time, where it's more of a challenge doing this stuff and I'm not clicking into health mode in a day, will last longer.
Stirchley
10-24-18, 03:34 PM
ill bite..whats IF? ;)
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/6-ways-to-do-intermittent-fasting
Its funny, ive actually been mixing a smi gast in with calorie reduction.
Ie..ill drink a shake morning, eat a bagel noon. Dinner of fish rice.
Next day ill have bagel morning. Shake lunch then chicken dinner.
Not a full fast bug pretty damn close considering my energy oytput at work.
Typos sorry, just try and guess what i wrote ha
cat_sidhe
10-24-18, 04:51 PM
Me, when I'm on my own, I just eat when my body says "eat". But when I'm on my own, my body doesn't really give that command as often as it should. But my energy doesn't dissipate as a result so I don't see it as a bad thing.
I've lost five pounds since last Monday, unfortunately within that time there were two days I gained a little back. I also still am not eating *completely* ideally, but I haven't had fast food or caffeine since then, and only one sugary drink which I regret (in other words, I'm cutting those out too).
I had a cheat day Friday, and it confirmed why I hate cheat days: it's hard for me to get back in order after.
About to leave to see my personal trainer. Looking forward to getting rid of this massive GUT!!!!!!!
cat_sidhe
10-31-18, 01:41 PM
@Swam can you handle stevia?
Swam, the past tense of swum, which is the past tense of swim.
Mr Minio
11-01-18, 07:55 AM
I lost 15 kg in 4 months.
I guess I should be happy, but I don't care. :shrug:
Water and high fiber plus enema..knock that shlt right out.
Farting. Too. Lots of farting.
@Swam can you handle stevia?
I, Swam, know what stevia is but not much about it's healthiness. It's supposed to be better than sugar, right?
I am fine without it, though, because right now I'm only drinking water and tea, and I prefer tea without any sugar (or sugar-like things). :)
Mr Minio
11-01-18, 04:15 PM
Water and high fiber plus enema..knock that shlt right out.
Farting. Too. Lots of farting. Keep your dirty fetishes to yourself, you contemptible cur! :p
Water and high fiber plus enema..knock that shlt right out.
Farting. Too. Lots of farting. Keep your dirty fetishes to yourself, you contemptible cur! :p
No. You're thinking of wafting.
Wafting.
What you do is you fart and walk aeay.
The more you farg, the more you walk.
cat_sidhe
11-02-18, 01:44 PM
I, Swam, know what stevia is but not much about it's healthiness. It's supposed to be better than sugar, right?
I am fine without it, though, because right now I'm only drinking water and tea, and I prefer tea without any sugar (or sugar-like things). :)
:lol:
Basically yeah, an alternative sugar with no calories. I can't stand it though. I just cut down the number of cups of tea per day now as I can't stand any sugar replacements (I put sugar in my tea).
Yeah, this is a thing, apparently: some people just really hate stevia. I'm one of them. I assume there's people in that group who hate it inherently and others who just would hate it until they got used to it, but I don't know. It's not even that I find it insufficiently or differently sweet, I actively dislike the taste. Oh well.
It's almost exclusively Splenda for me.
Citizen Rules
11-02-18, 02:19 PM
I don't like the taste of Stevia, but I do like and use Truvia brand sugars which is a blend of cane sugar and stevia. It has 75% less calories. I mostly use Truvia's brown sugar mix to make chocolate chip cookies. It can be hard to find but Wall Mart has it.
doubledenim
11-02-18, 04:08 PM
I would have never guess people were off on Stevia. Direct all complaints to Steveia.
Made the mistake of buying a box of Splenda at Costco, when I finally went through it, I got on Stevia. I can't tell that big of difference, except SplenDDta :D seems sweeter, but that may be because it dissolves better.
JoaoRodrigues
11-02-18, 05:04 PM
A resume of my diet: they call it Paleo, I've been doing it for four months and lost 45 pounds or something, no exercise. I threw away potato and rice, just meat with greens and vegetables. Obviously nothing processed (meh-sometimes yes), just real food. Started taking breakfast, bacon with eggs, something I've never done before, never took breakfast since I was very-very young.
Then I heard of something called Fasting and that was basically what I was doing for the last twenty years, but because they said was good I was dumb enough to start doing it again and didn't lost any weight since, I was unmotivated and started with my old habits, lucky enough I didn't gain or lost any weight. I have a fat liver, so doing that fasting thing was probably not the best idea, but the concept made sense.
I did some DDP-Yoga but was too masculine for me, I prefer the 'Namaste Yoga - Your Mother Yoga' like the guy call it, that 'Hulk get out' thing doesn't really appeal much to me, and because I don't like doing things I don't like I just quit, the weight I lost doing yoga I would gain it again, I believe that the secret is know your metabolism, like knowing the things that you are allergic to.
doubledenim
11-03-18, 01:30 PM
I think weight is one of hardest metrics to use.
I ate garbage (no sugar :D ) yesterday. Pizza, lots of cereal, some Titos, etc. My weight stayed the same this morning.
I eat hotdogs or some other super-salt food and gain 5 lbs.
I had this really sharp pain above my stomach on the right side (and barely on the left) and I wonder if it is kidney or liver related. Fortunately it is not nearly as bad today, so I think it will go on it's own. But it did scare me a little.
Fast food is still gone, but unfortunately I have had a few sugary drinks and caffeine this weekend. I'm really bummed about it, and my weight has gone up a pound or two. I think part of it is my mood has been the sh*ts. Been pretty down but that's okay. I'll bounce back.
Mr Minio
11-04-18, 12:54 PM
Stop weighing yourself every day and obsessing over gaining or losing one or two pounds. Just take it easy and stick to the routine, and you should analyse the result in a broader time line, like after a month, or two.
I lost 15 kg in 4 months.
I guess I should be happy, but I don't care. :shrug:
Good job:up:
I envy you strong will.
Stop weighing yourself every day and obsessing over gaining or losing one or two pounds. Just take it easy and stick to the routine, and you should analyse the result in a broader time line, like after a month, or two.
This is probably reasonable but weighing myself consistently keeps me on track, at least for the most part. I guess the takeaway is I shouldn't beat myself up over a pound or two.
Mr Minio
11-04-18, 02:24 PM
I envy you strong will. Hide some delicious cookies in my cupboard and think again. The trick is not to have any sweets at home, and only have as much (or as little) food as you need.
I guess the takeaway is I shouldn't beat myself up over a pound or two. Any reason to beat it is a good reason. Oh wait, that's not what you meant! :p
Nausicaä
11-04-18, 07:13 PM
I had this really sharp pain above my stomach on the right side (and barely on the left) and I wonder if it is kidney or liver related. Fortunately it is not nearly as bad today, so I think it will go on it's own. But it did scare me a little.
Or something more innocent like a pulled muscle, muscle spasm and so on. Can cause a sharp pain. ;)
doubledenim
11-05-18, 02:25 AM
This is probably reasonable but weighing myself consistently keeps me on track, at least for the most part. I guess the takeaway is I shouldn't beat myself up over a pound or two.
Agree and agree. That pound or two is water weight usually.
I'm still trying to figure out how it works, I almost think there is a delayed reaction, even though it doesn't make sense to me.
I eat garbage Fri, weigh the same. Sugar Saturday is a complete shhtshoow, weigh the same. Sunday is nothing but real food and the weight is up this morning.
:shrug:
I think water weight has more to do with the type of food than how good or bad it is. Things with salt, for example.
Anyway, I'm the same as Swan, weighing myself regularly really helps, provided you only really react to things over the course of several days. I've had lots of situations where my weight didn't go down or went up for what felt like no reason, but every time I stick it out, after a few more days everything ends up where it ought to.
JoaoRodrigues
11-06-18, 05:33 AM
I had this really sharp pain above my stomach on the right side (and barely on the left) and I wonder if it is kidney or liver related.
That's your liver saying stop eating that "food", upper right side pain, near the middle. You can notice that your liver is having a hard time by the color of your skin and eyes (yellow), the color of your feces (yellow) and urine (dark color), also if your feet begin to swell. It can be reversed, losing weight is the easiest way, other people say fasting, but doesn't work for me.
Hide some delicious cookies in my cupboard and think again. The trick is not to have any sweets at home, and only have as much (or as little) food as you need.
Sometimes it's not enough. Believe me!:D
Mr Minio
11-07-18, 03:51 PM
Ms. M
Thankfully I'm much lazier than gourmand, so if I don't have anything at home I'm too lazy to go to Biedronka to buy something. Anyway, I'm kind of jaded with Biedronka and do my groceries at Lidl now. :P
@Ms. M (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=96627)
Thankfully I'm much lazier than gourmand, so if I don't have anything at home I'm too lazy to go to Biedronka to buy something. Anyway, I'm kind of jaded with Biedronka and do my groceries at Lidl now. :P
I'm also lazy, but in my case it mean I don't like to prepare healthy meals. I go to a groceries which is on my road. Biedronka or Lidl - doesn't matter. Just want to shopping fast and go home.
Mr Minio
11-07-18, 03:59 PM
Same here. Thankfully, I order home-made dinner every workday. :)
And I mostly just eat sausages for breakfast, and don't eat a supper.
I don't have canteen at my work place, so I need to preparing food:(
Mr Minio
11-07-18, 04:05 PM
I don't have canteen at my work place, so I need to preparing food:( I don't either. The girls at our reception accumulate all employees' orders and call whatever place we want that offers takeaway food with delivery. :) At the end of every week we simply pay them whatever total we owe. So convenient. :3
Good idea, but I can't afford to order food every day. Canteens are usually subsidized by companies, so meals are cheaper for employes.
Mr Minio
11-07-18, 04:12 PM
Well, I don't know the prices in Kraków, but the place we order from right now offers a "dish of the day" for 12,50 zł plus 5 zł delivery cost divided by whatever number of people who ordered food. It's a pretty reasonable price if you ask me, and I feel really good now that I eat true dinners instead of buns or snacks like I used to when I was a student.
Yeah, you are right. In Cracow price for a meal of the day is about 16 zł, like in the bar next to my job. I order there from time to time, but when I spoke with my friend from Łódź, she told me that meal in her wokplace canteen costs about 6 zł (subsidized of course) - two dishes! So it's a big difference.
Mr Minio
11-07-18, 04:22 PM
16 zł isn't that bad. Some people at my workplace order food that costs 20-something zł. Now that's what I call overpriced! Not to mention the food is pretty bad, but to each their own. :)
Surely, subsidized food at canteens will be much cheaper, but cheap doesn't always go with quality, or tasty.
I think investing in your health and well-being is worth it. Not to mention if you eat a full dinner you will be full for the rest of the day, which ideally eliminates you having to buy (not so cheap) sweets, snacks etc.
Sure, there is no problem with ordering expensive food, which as you wrote, not always is so good.
My friend is very satisfied with this canteen. She likes so called home made meals
I'm investing in my health and mostly prepair meals at home, but I don't like it. I don't like to cook.
I supose I should start going to a gym or something, but I'm too lazy right now.
Anyway, good job Minio.
Mr Minio
11-07-18, 04:47 PM
Yep, home-made food is the best. <3
I don't like to (or shall I say can't?) cook either. I wouldn't mind a cute girl cook teaching me, though. Otherwise, it's not too appealing. /problematic but honest opinion/
I'm too lazy for a gym, too. I probably should start working out, because I basically sit the entire day which is a spine-killer, but I simply can't bring myself to do this.
I wish somebody told me "good job" when I'm old and wrinkled and have lived my entire life just like I wanted to. Right now it's way too early for such words. :P
Anyway, I'm going to bed now. Eating healthy is one thing. Getting a good night's sleep is another.
matt72582
11-07-18, 06:42 PM
I don't cook.. I eat right from the fridge. I don't even use a stove or oven; in fact, I use it for storage. I have a microwave, though. I like cheap and tasty. The only exercise I get is drums, and it's still sitting.
A good night of sleep is the best thing I could ask for, but the guy across the street leaves at 5am, and has no muffler, and I already have a loud fan. I'll probably have to waste more energy (despite my utility shut-off notice) and also turn on my window AC fan just for more volume.....
MovieGal
11-15-18, 09:46 PM
So last Friday I felt I had chest congestion and Saturday morning I took a Sudafed/Mucinex pill to help. All day Saturday I had phlegm come up but it was red with blood. I didn't feel good Sunday and I took a 4-hour nap but stayed on the medication I was taking. It didn't get better and whenever I would swallow, the back of my throat/neck felt like it was rough and irritated. I went to urgent care finally on Wednesday night. When they took my blood pressure, it was 178 over 116. The urgent care doctor said if it was two points higher, I would have had to go to the hospital. Anything over 180 is serious heart attack zone. I figured it was high because I was sick. A year ago, I pulled my sciatic nerve for the first time and my blood pressure was over 220. The nurse explained this time, with my sciatic nerve I was in pain, its to be expected. This time I just didn't feel good she said. Wait, not everyone has the same threshold for pain. I was in pain even though it was just my throat and sinuses, not just that I didn't feel good. Apparently, the Taltz medication lowers the IK-17A gene that has to do with inflammation and infections. No wonder it turned out to be an upper respiratory infection.
I tried to call my family doctor today to get in Monday. I was willing to trade my Monday at work with someone who has it off so they could have my Saturday off. He normally works Tuesday thru Saturday and I work Monday thru Friday. The nurse taking appointments gave me the run around. I said it had to be "This Monday Only" and not any other day of the week or time. She put me to the doctor's voicemail and I have not heard back yet.
Would you consider blood pressure of 178 over 116 serious enough to call your patient back to schedule? To try to work them in with another doctor in that practice? They haven't done **** yet..
I have eaten bananas, apples, pears, and strawberries and taken low dose aspirin and it only brought it down to 171 over 123.
If I have a heart attack, I hope my family can sue the medical practice for not accommodating someone who seriously needs to see them!!
Note; When the urgent care doctor looked at the back of my throat, he asked if I had been vomiting, which I hadn't. All the blood vessels were close to the skin, which is probably why there was blood in the phlegm.
Citizen Rules
11-15-18, 10:11 PM
MovieGal stop at a drug store and buy a blood pressure tester, they don't cost much. Your blood pressure might right now be way lower than it was when you were in the doctor's office. Being sick alone will raise your blood pressure, depending on how bad you felt and how nervous or upset you were about visiting the doctor. So it could be 20 points lower right now. Just about any store with a pharmacy will sell blood pressure testers, for like under $40. Take me advice buy it, test yourself at home and you might find your BP is much lower, which will give you some peace of mind. And there a good thing to have anyway.
MovieGal
11-15-18, 10:13 PM
MovieGal stop at a drug store and buy a blood pressure tester, they don't cost much. Your blood pressure might right now be way lower than it was when you were in the doctor's office. Being sick alone will raise your blood pressure, depending on how bad you felt and how nervous or upset you were about visiting the doctor. So it could be 20 points lower right now. Just about any store with a pharmacy will sell blood pressure testers, for like under $40. Take me advice buy it, test yourself at home and you might find your BP is much lower, which will give you some peace of mind. And there a good thing to have anyway.
I have one now.. and the woman at work has one she let me use.
Citizen Rules
11-15-18, 10:18 PM
I have one now.. and the woman at work has one she let me use.Is your BP still high right now? Has it been high in the past? Usually a person with high BP will have had a past history of having higher BP in the past.
I was going to post back and say Sudafed will raise your BP, it does me. It works by shrinking up capillaries so that your nose isn't clogged, but smaller capillaries also drive up your blood pressure, especially if you're already prone to higher BP levels. Read the label on Sudafed/Mucinex and see what it says about warnings for Blood Pressure.
I'm signing off right now, but I will check back tomorrow.
MovieGal
11-15-18, 10:20 PM
Is your BP still high right now? Has it been high in the past? Usually a person with high BP will have had a past history of having higher BP in the past.
I was going to post back and say Sudafed will raise your BP, it does me. It works by shrinking up capillaries so that your nose isn't clogged, but smaller capillaries also drive up your blood pressure, especially if you're already prone to higher BP levels. Read the label on Sudafed/Mucinex and see what it says about warnings for Blood Pressure.
I'm signing off right now, but I will check back tomorrow.
Mine fluctuates. I had a health coach at work who took my blood pressure at random times during the day.. some days in the morning, then a week or so in the afternoon after lunch and then before I left for the day.
It was never high.. but never at normal. Again the only time I see a doctor is when I don't feel good and that's when she says its high.
I see a dermatologist now and they have never said anything about it being high.
doubledenim
11-16-18, 01:35 AM
I don't even use a stove or oven; in fact, I use it for storage...
Doesn't everybody? Oh wait, I've got a dishwasher cabinet too. :D
Update.
Regarding weight, I'm trying to lose it at a slower rate because I hear that helps the skin adjust which can reduce loose skin. I think that month last year when I lost 24 pounds was too quick, maybe. I'm eager to lose this gut but I need to do it right, which means a steadier rate and more water!
This week has been great, a significant improvement over the prior week. I went to the farmer's market and got a bunch of stuff last Wednesday, and the idea is I use it up by the next Wednesday, and go back. This is good for me because it allows me to cook at home with lots of vegetables, and also stops me from eating out at restaurants, which I used to do daily. So yeah, I've been cooking a lot. The other night I made "braised tempeh and bok choy in a spicy ginger sauce" as it was called. Pretty good. Delicate balance in cooking vegetable, because you want them to taste good but hold their nutrients.
Also, I've been walking on West Cliff every day. That has been the best part of the day (although my best friend and I went to the beach every day last week, which was the actual best part of the day). So great in the morning, when the sun is coming up. Anyone who is familiar with Santa Cruz and West Cliff knows what I mean.
Chypmunk
11-20-18, 10:13 AM
Slow and steady loss is best, it also makes it more likely to be sustainable.
Anyone who is familiar with Santa Cruz and West Cliff knows what I mean.
My fave movie Split was filmed in Santa Cruz in 88. Wonder if its still as progresdive as it was. Good job on thorough planning for health!
MovieGal
11-23-18, 11:31 PM
You know what is bad?
when you know you will have a tummy ache from eating a 5oz back of Pistachios.... ugh!
So I'm not *worried* about how my weight fluctuates each day, but it's always fun to see a two pound drop, even if there might be reasons for that more than just genuine weight loss.
I've been obsessed with broccoli sprouts, and have started growing my own. Incorporating them into my diet with ease.
Also, this is silly but I was often worried about loose skin when I lost all this weight. I'm not as much anymore because I learned/realized once I get down I can start bulking up and filling out the loose skin with muscle. I don't want to be Arnie big, but not being a lanky twig again sounds reasonable to me. :p
Good to hear, that's great stuff.
I'm gonna piggyback on your motivation, I'm up a bit after all the travel/dental stuff/holidays. I know it'll be fine, just bleh while I'm still in the middle of an uptick. :sick: Back on track today, though.
Re: loose skin. Yeah, it's not going to be as bad as you think, probably, not unless you get really really heavy and then really thin. Maybe some visible marks or something but nothing terrible, and as you say, really good motivation to add muscle.
I'm gonna piggyback on your motivation, I'm up a bit after all the travel/dental stuff/holidays. I know it'll be fine, just bleh while I'm still in the middle of an uptick. :sick: Back on track today, though.
I know what you mean. It's easy to lose some steam, especially when holidays roll around. I did just that this last week, and struggled with lethargy and staying motivated. I kept doing my walks and healthy eating, but it was much harder. I think the key is to just realize that struggle will pass as long as you keep your head up and keep moving forward.
Finished my first jar of broccoli seeds, came out nicely although I don't think I grew them long enough. I got a pound and a half more and have started two more jars.
Seeing my personal trainer today. I believe now that we have been focusing on other aspects of my life - nutrition, stress, mind, spirit, and some light stretches and exercises - we have been progressing enough to where he's going to start me on a more substantial workout routine with strength training and cardio. If I'm not mistaken, I am going to start going to the gym on my own, starting with once and then building up from there.
The nutrition stuff is getting a lot better now. I've gotten to the point where my cravings for fast food are minor to none. Tuesday, I went to my psychiatrist in Sacramento (two to three hours away), and tend to get In n Out, so I did. Not out of craving but habit. I'm glad I did because it was a big learning experience. I had been trying to debate whether or not to still eat In n Out even after quitting fast food, because I always loved it a lot. Eating it now that I'm eating a lot healthier wasn't as good. Not only was I stuffing my face with regret, but it didn't taste as good as I remembered, and I ended up getting a stomach ache throughout the day. Gonna stay away from all that stuff now. Actually, I'm at the point where, when eating bad stuff, the regret outweighs the taste. So that's good.
I also think I may eventually take up a martial art or something. I'm thinking boxing, which I am starting to get into. I don't want to do any competitions or stuff, some light one-on-one may be cool but I mostly want to learn the techniques and just get a bag. Seems good for conditioning and also stress relief. :D
Stirchley
11-30-18, 02:53 PM
Swan, I’m Impressed by what you are achieving. Keep it up.
Thank you Stirchley. This thread is a good place to just ramble, and I'm grateful there are some people paying attention. :D
My personal trainer said if I stay on track I'll be able to start boxing/martial arts this summer. :cool:
I'm anticipating a lot of this:
https://i.imgur.com/vuRmxLf.gif
Stirchley
11-30-18, 05:29 PM
Rocky lives. ;)
Mr Minio
11-30-18, 06:19 PM
My personal trainer said if I stay on track I'll be able to start boxing/martial arts this summer. :cool: https://i.imgur.com/0bBMCwF.png
BlueStar
12-02-18, 09:28 AM
I was having some hair and scalp issues so I started buying healthier products from companies like Maple Holistics.
doubledenim
12-02-18, 02:52 PM
I was having some hair and scalp issues so I started buying healthier products from companies like Maple Holistics.
Hmmm....
Did you change your diet first?
Or do you work for the Chewlies Gumm corporation and its Maple Holistics subsidiary?
A change of diet and coconut oil work wonders. Literally, wipe out half of your medicine cabinet and replace with Coco Oh.
Chypmunk
12-02-18, 02:53 PM
I solved my hair issues with a permanent marker pen :)
Thank you Stirchley. This thread is a good place to just ramble, and I'm grateful there are some people paying attention. :D
My personal trainer said if I stay on track I'll be able to start boxing/martial arts this summer. :cool:
I'm anticipating a lot of this:
https://i.imgur.com/vuRmxLf.gif
Boxing’s a great sport. I did it for a number of years and competed. You should get into it. Stopped due to health issues which is what drew me to this thread just now. Btw that gif is Tyson fury. He is arguably the best heavyweight we have now. Not sure if you or many people follow boxing here butvgreat sport, highly recommend doing it and watching it.
I never followed it before Larry, but I'm starting to get into it right now, along with other martial arts. :)
the samoan lawyer
12-03-18, 09:31 AM
I never followed it before Larry, but I'm starting to get into it right now, along with other martial arts. :)
Great work Swan, sounds like you're working hard. I'm a big boxing fan and highly recommend it. Even just doing the training you will see the benefits in no time, by far and away the hardest training I've ever done.
Great work Swan, sounds like you're working hard. I'm a big boxing fan and highly recommend it. Even just doing the training you will see the benefits in no time, by far and away the hardest training I've ever done.
Thanks. Yeah I'm mostly looking forward to the training. I'm excited to set up a punching bag and just go at it whenever I want. I heard it's good for conditioning and stress relief.
Anyway, this week was all over the place for me, lost some steam over the weekend but I'm picking myself back up. Weight is starting to get down into the 280's, which definitely makes me feel accomplished. Need to focus on bettering my nutrition, which might be better than it was but still needs improvement. Exercise has been upped this week though, including two walks today which I might make regular, instead of just one in the morning.
doubledenim
12-05-18, 01:58 AM
It truly gets easier to stick with it the more time you invest. For me it feels like my brain has almost been rewired.
I've made a lot of changes in this past year and it all boils down to effort. No matter how much I don't want to do something, I try to push through. It's worth it. The way physical work and nutrition enrich all the other aspects of my life gives me even more resolve to stay on the path.
Any of the people that do boxing training, how does it affect your joints? I lean towards low impact/ low intensity work, but I feel compelled to go get a heavy bag for some reason :)
Stirchley
12-05-18, 03:54 PM
Exercise has been upped this week though, including two walks today which I might make regular, instead of just one in the morning.
I walk for about 1-1/2 to 2 hours daily no matter the weather. I love it physically & mentally. My internist says that I am so healthy primarily due to walking. And I am very slim too, which is due to several factors.
Do you like to swim? (I don’t.) It’s a terrific exercise since all 4 limbs are in constant motion.
Yeah, I love walking too now.
I do like to swim in the ocean. But I guess the bacteria levels are high right now, so I haven't been able to go.
Mr Minio
12-05-18, 04:39 PM
I do like to swim in the ocean. But I guess the bacteria levels are high right now, so I haven't been able to go. But Swans swim in lakes!!! Know your place, bird!
the samoan lawyer
12-06-18, 09:16 AM
It truly gets easier to stick with it the more time you invest. For me it feels like my brain has almost been rewired.
I've made a lot of changes in this past year and it all boils down to effort. No matter how much I don't want to do something, I try to push through. It's worth it. The way physical work and nutrition enrich all the other aspects of my life gives me even more resolve to stay on the path.
Any of the people that do boxing training, how does it affect your joints? I lean towards low impact/ low intensity work, but I feel compelled to go get a heavy bag for some reason :)
Very true. I go to the gym almost every day and I'm at the point were I get really agitated if I cant get going.
Regarding boxing training, I've never had any issues with my joints at all, although I've been doing regular physical exercise several times a week since I was a kid. As long as you warm up you should be fine and by all means, get a heavy bag, I use it at least once a week and love it. Even a simple few rounds of 30secs on and 10 sec rest really gets the heart going!
Just out of interest, why would you do low intensity?
doubledenim
12-06-18, 04:52 PM
Just out of interest, why would you do low intensity?
I'm of the belief we have a finite amount of "wear and tear". I'm not trying to catch an injury from being healthy.
I do a push/pull/leg split followed by a mild half hour on the treadmill. I'm keen on the heavy bag, but I don't see how it doesn't ruin your shoulders and elbows.
the samoan lawyer
12-07-18, 08:44 AM
I'm of the belief we have a finite amount of "wear and tear". I'm not trying to catch an injury from being healthy.
I do a push/pull/leg split followed by a mild half hour on the treadmill. I'm keen on the heavy bag, but I don't see how it doesn't ruin your shoulders and elbows.
Fair enough, I just think I would find that difficult to do.
Keep us posted how you get on with the bag anyhow.
Stirchley
12-07-18, 02:22 PM
I'm of the belief we have a finite amount of "wear and tear". I'm not trying to catch an injury from being healthy.
I agree. At one time I was a compulsive exerciser & didn’t listen to what my body was telling me. Until the summer day I woke up with an inflamed tendon from knee to groin. So painful & I had to stay home for about 6 weeks to heal. The day I was finally able to walk to the end of my block was thrilling. Lesson learned. Never over-exercised again.
I've been super active last week, and I've noticed some light back pain. My initial reasoning is it's posture and weight. When I gained weight most of it went to my stomach, so I have a pretty massive gut. Thankfully, those are both improving, so I hope the back pain will improve with time.
doubledenim
12-29-18, 04:53 AM
Anybody have any health related New Year's resolutions?
Mine sounds outlandish...Ridiculous...Doomed from the beginning...0% of success, but I like those odds. :licklips:
I'm going off the sugh for 2019
In all fairness, I don't mean a straight edge approach. "No sugh" means no candy, confections, pastries, pies, cakes, sodas, Kool-Aid :(, cookies or any of their relatives. Work may require me to taste something or there may be sugar added to food, but no sugar to satisfy wanting to eat sweets.
I made a lot of changes this past year, which made me realize it is possible. One of which was no cigs. I was never a "smoker smoker", but I may have had 5 or so a day. A good hang with buddies and libations, well you know how that goes. I'm still around plenty of smokers and have gotten to the point where I clutch my abstinence like a blue chip.
Don't be sad. This means more Dewey's Pink Lemonade cake, Home Grown Pecan Pie and those wonderful Krispy Kreme for everyone else. I'm doing this for you :rolleyes::D .
cat_sidhe
12-29-18, 06:16 AM
I don't believe in New Year's resolutions.
I'm thinking about taking up boxing with one of my friends. His idea, actually. :lol:
doubledenim
12-29-18, 07:05 AM
I like the sound of that. I have started standing my bench up against the wall and "jabbing" it. It feels great, better than any other form of exercise I do. I enjoy it so much, I'm looking into figuring out what I need to hang a heavy bag. "The Shop" is where my weights and treadmill are and has exposed beams, but I don't know the math on hanging one.
cat_sidhe
12-29-18, 07:43 AM
I like the sound of that. I have started standing my bench up against the wall and "jabbing" it. It feels great, better than any other form of exercise I do. I enjoy it so much, I'm looking into figuring out what I need to hang a heavy bag. "The Shop" is where my weights and treadmill are and has exposed beams, but I don't know the math on hanging one.
My friend already scoped out an inexpensive gym that has a dark corner full of punching bags we can just go to town on.
Chypmunk
12-29-18, 07:45 AM
My friend already scoped out an inexpensive gym that has a dark corner full of punching bags we can just go to town on.
Hope it's not too dark or y'all might end up hitting each other instead of the bags :D
cat_sidhe
12-29-18, 07:47 AM
Hope it's not too dark or y'all might end up hitting each other instead of the bags :D
:lol: We don't need extra darkness for that. He once asked me to slap him awake. I obliged GLEEFULLY. :lol:
matt72582
01-04-19, 08:54 PM
I've been living a very sedentary life and noticed how my body works better when I go out and move around. Of course, I try to rationalize and think "Why didn't I do this when it was warmer" but that's the past, and so for about 4-5 days last week, I'd go for a walk. And on one occasion, when I was near my house, I thought I'd run, just to test myself. I ran out of breath, got inside, and noticed feeling really good, euphoric. I also realized that an hour later I still hadn't turned on the heat (I turn it off when I leave the house) -- and besides saving the money, it also makes me think it's the reason why my feet are always freezing and in pain. During the day, I have a space-heater on almost all day leaving the thermostat at 75 by default (I only turn it for a few hours the minute I wake up frozen).
Of course, not everyone can do this, and hopefully others can chime in and reply with alternative solutions. If you don't wanna leave your house and don't have much space, you could probably dance a bit, and try to exert yourself at the end, to the point of sweating or being exhausted - it feels good.
TheUsualSuspect
01-04-19, 09:52 PM
I've been living a very sedentary life and noticed how my body works better when I go out and move around. Of course, I try to rationalize and think "Why didn't I do this when it was warmer" but that's the past, and so for about 4-5 days last week, I'd go for a walk. And on one occasion, when I was near my house, I thought I'd run, just to test myself. I ran out of breath, got inside, and noticed feeling really good, euphoric. I also realized that an hour later I still hadn't turned on the heat (I turn it off when I leave the house) -- and besides saving the money, it also makes me think it's the reason why my feet are always freezing and in pain. During the day, I have a space-heater on almost all day leaving the thermostat at 75 by default (I only turn it for a few hours the minute I wake up frozen).
Of course, not everyone can do this, and hopefully others can chime in and reply with alternative solutions. If you don't wanna leave your house and don't have much space, you could probably dance a bit, and try to exert yourself at the end, to the point of sweating or being exhausted - it feels good.
Believe it or not Xbox Kinect did this for me. Playing some dancing games gets you moving and you’re having fun.
doubledenim
01-27-19, 06:51 AM
I had the power turned off yesterday in the house for a bit, so I couldn't use the treadmill. Did I skip my 30 mins? :suspicious:
I ran around the property and it was probably the first time I've run like that since I was a kid. Everyone knows how much better "real" running is versus treadmilling. It was great, really sucked, a lot more work. No music either, so it really scrubbed my mind because the whole time I was thinking about the next step. While that was nice, outdoor running is for the birds.
If there was a beach handy, that's another story. Outside of that, I was constantly thinking about twisting an ankle or knee, going downhill (really bad kneews :yup:) . I realize it is better, the fresh air is better, the sunlight is better...but not worth a meeting with an orthopedic surgeon.
matt72582
07-14-19, 11:31 AM
In the last 5 weeks, I've only had 4 days of good sleep and no migraines (and the flu, sinus, etc). Sometimes I feel like I'll never by "myself" - which wasn't that healthy, anyway. I take 3mg of Xanax every night, and I don't know how I can still do this. This has to be worse than death. I even cut the grass today in the morning hoping I'd have a fatal heart-attack.
doubledenim
07-14-19, 11:42 AM
That's rough man. What happens when you don't take the Xanax?
Hope you find the solution.
JoaoRodrigues
07-14-19, 12:35 PM
well, that can be solved with just a tune (https://www.youtube.com/user/ILoveJuicyShow), if it's a problem of relaxation with weed
if it's a mind problem, relative urges i advice you to exercise, anything, just don't go to shrinks
not trying to be negative, but once you walk the "drugs to sleep" path you never come back
lowering the room temperate works, meditation also work for that and for more
GulfportDoc
07-14-19, 01:05 PM
In the last 5 weeks, I've only had 4 days of good sleep and no migraines (and the flu, sinus, etc). Sometimes I feel like I'll never by "myself" - which wasn't that healthy, anyway. I take 3mg of Xanax every night, and I don't know how I can still do this. This has to be worse than death. I even cut the grass today in the morning hoping I'd have a fatal heart-attack.
Matt, sorry to hear you're having problems. But if you're taking 3 mg every day, you're likely suffering from "interdose withdrawals". Benzodiazepines can be a real horror show. It took my wife 2 years to withdraw from them, after taking Xanax for 10 years. She's just now becoming normal in terms of sleep and other physical symptoms.
There's a life saving and highly experienced forum for benzo folks called "Benzo Buddies" http://www.benzobuddies.org/ If you investigate this site you'll surely find some relief, and be able to read about people suffering from benzos. It'll give you comfort and hope, along with helpful tips.
You'll likely have to very slowly reduce your dosage in order to kick Xanax. Some have to add decreasing doses of valium for help. Valium is much easier to kick. You may have to find a doc who specializes in that type of thing; or your own physician may be willing to go along with the project.
Good luck, my friend. There is hope, and it does get better. Check out that forum.
~Doc
lenslady
07-14-19, 01:23 PM
I feel bad for you Matt, and reaching out to the reference Doc gave is a good idea. Also think about reaching out to a support group or a trusted physician to help you.
Do you know what brought this on? Also if you can remember why you were able to sleep those 4 nights, maybe you can repeat what made that possible. Also Doc mentions the rebound effect, there's also a problem with caffeine. Better to cut out all caffeine for a while - coffee, tea, soda, chocolate (! yes caffeine lurks many places) . Some find that eating tryptophan rich foods help- turkey, milk products - before you go to sleep ( but not right before you go to sleep, eating too close to bedtime can keep you up too)
Don't lose hope! This is a solvable problem but you may have to problem solve a bit.
Citizen Rules
07-14-19, 01:33 PM
In the last 5 weeks, I've only had 4 days of good sleep and no migraines (and the flu, sinus, etc). Sometimes I feel like I'll never by "myself" - which wasn't that healthy, anyway. I take 3mg of Xanax every night, and I don't know how I can still do this. This has to be worse than death. I even cut the grass today in the morning hoping I'd have a fatal heart-attack.You need some life changes, fast! We care about you and you need to care about yourself, so please Matt take care of yourself.
matt72582
07-14-19, 03:43 PM
Matt, sorry to hear you're having problems. But if you're taking 3 mg every day, you're likely suffering from "interdose withdrawals". Benzodiazepines can be a real horror show. It took my wife 2 years to withdraw from them, after taking Xanax for 10 years. She's just now becoming normal in terms of sleep and other physical symptoms.
There's a life saving and highly experienced forum for benzo folks called "Benzo Buddies" http://www.benzobuddies.org/ If you investigate this site you'll surely find some relief, and be able to read about people suffering from benzos. It'll give you comfort and hope, along with helpful tips.
You'll likely have to very slowly reduce your dosage in order to kick Xanax. Some have to add decreasing doses of valium for help. Valium is much easier to kick. You may have to find a doc who specializes in that type of thing; or your own physician may be willing to go along with the project.
Good luck, my friend. There is hope, and it does get better. Check out that forum.
~Doc
Matt, sorry to hear you're having problems. But if you're taking 3 mg every day, you're likely suffering from "interdose withdrawals". Benzodiazepines can be a real horror show. It took my wife 2 years to withdraw from them, after taking Xanax for 10 years. She's just now becoming normal in terms of sleep and other physical symptoms.
There's a life saving and highly experienced forum for benzo folks called "Benzo Buddies" http://www.benzobuddies.org/ If you investigate this site you'll surely find some relief, and be able to read about people suffering from benzos. It'll give you comfort and hope, along with helpful tips.
You'll likely have to very slowly reduce your dosage in order to kick Xanax. Some have to add decreasing doses of valium for help. Valium is much easier to kick. You may have to find a doc who specializes in that type of thing; or your own physician may be willing to go along with the project.
Good luck, my friend. There is hope, and it does get better. Check out that forum.
~Doc
Thanks for writing, Doc.. My doctor initially put me on Valium, and for the last 15 years, I've been on Xanax.. I actually think my headache caused a lot of this. I've noticed getting headaches after playing drums, even though I've been wearing protection for almost 20 years. The thing is, they work for me; they relax me. I think its other problems, and the nightmare of "it's getting near dark", and the pressure, as well as having to get up and pee, and basically having to try to fall back asleep again. I've had trouble sleeping since pre-school, I'm almost 40, I don't even have the energy to try, but I really appreciate you writing this.
I feel bad for you Matt, and reaching out to the reference Doc gave is a good idea. Also think about reaching out to a support group or a trusted physician to help you.
Do you know what brought this on? Also if you can remember why you were able to sleep those 4 nights, maybe you can repeat what made that possible. Also Doc mentions the rebound effect, there's also a problem with caffeine. Better to cut out all caffeine for a while - coffee, tea, soda, chocolate (! yes caffeine lurks many places) . Some find that eating tryptophan rich foods help- turkey, milk products - before you go to sleep ( but not right before you go to sleep, eating too close to bedtime can keep you up too)
Don't lose hope! This is a solvable problem but you may have to problem solve a bit.
I mentioned above, but I eat sliced turkey almost every night (had to put them in the freezer to avoid the expiration date). I also keep such good track of what helps, and what hurts. I think it might have been a phone call from my brother. Those 4 days I slept good were days I didn't leave the house, didn't talk to anyone. I turn my phone off by 7pm, and try to keep a very uneventful night, but I think now, I'm pressured so much, that I can't sleep.
lenslady
07-14-19, 05:28 PM
Well I can only offer my best practical advice, so I think that if you have to lay low and stay in one day a week, then at least you know you' ll have one safe day. Even the good Lord rested after 6 days. Then you may be able to do an extra 'half day' or two, of lying low; and see if that works. And knowing you have at least one or 2 'safe sleep nights' you may feel less tense about the other days. Also I don't think it's all that odd to start relaxing from the world at 7 to get to sleep by 10. Our modern society inundates us with tv, movies, computers, , cell phones etc 24/7 - not the best way to sleep OR function.
You're not old, but you're not a teenager either- by all means play the drums if it relaxes you , but you may need a better protection for the sound now. . And hey, correct me if I' m wrong , but didn't you buy Tap Dancing shoes a while ago. I think a good stretch of tap dancing before dinner - would tucker ME out for the night.
A few things to STOP doing at least 3-4 hours before bedtime.
-Exercise.
-Drinking liquids; have your water earlier in the day so you don't need to get up in the middle of the night to go.
- Worrying- I know this is a toughie- but if you need to, allow yourself to worry all you want in the day- then just put these thoughts away for the evening. Make a list of things that relax you too. Get in the habit of thinking and doing relaxing things in the evening -and btw I personally find a walk in the beauties of nature in the day soothes me for the rest of the day and evening.
These are only a few approaches Matt, and I do encourage you to find other ways. If there are some medical issues in the background here; you may also need to work more with a trusted md or other healer.
Good luck - all we mofos are pulling for you. And if all else fails - watch a really really REALLY boring movie. ( no offense again to CR but)
Castaway does it for me every time. . Slumber city ;)
Good advice. Hang in there, Matt.
GulfportDoc
07-14-19, 08:19 PM
Thanks for writing, Doc.. My doctor initially put me on Valium, and for the last 15 years, I've been on Xanax.. I actually think my headache caused a lot of this. I've noticed getting headaches after playing drums, even though I've been wearing protection for almost 20 years. The thing is, they work for me; they relax me. I think its other problems, and the nightmare of "it's getting near dark", and the pressure, as well as having to get up and pee, and basically having to try to fall back asleep again. I've had trouble sleeping since pre-school, I'm almost 40, I don't even have the energy to try, but I really appreciate you writing this. ...
Matt, in my layman's opinion you likely have some serious issues here, and they're not going to get better. I'm not going to try to convince you. But please take a few minutes and visit the benzos site. I guarantee you that you'll find yourself described in there. The miracle of identification is a key that might unlock your quandary.
~Doc
doubledenim
09-14-19, 06:29 PM
Seeing as how the last post was on the 14th...
I just took my biometric test for work. 152lb with a 31" waist (measured from the belly button, srsly?). I counted calories and limited my garbage food eating to one MNF fiasco, for two weeks leading up to the test. The MNF fiasco ended at a friends house who is a Grand Champion Snackmaster. "Oh, you want a Starcrunch, howbout a Fudge Round, you know they make Warhead's popsicle, TMNT ice cream, try one of ..." Yeah.
My new goal is to see how much I can pack on by New Years, in order to cut leading up to my birthday in March. I've hit 170 lbs before, but I'm gonna bet the over this time. If I can hit 180, it will be a real achievement. It's gonna be primarily a diet of oatmeal, chicken, broccoli and protein supplements. Wish me luck #skinnyfatguy
Stirchley
09-16-19, 03:19 PM
⬆️ I’m confused. You weigh 150, but you hope to reach 180. Why?
doubledenim
09-16-19, 05:22 PM
It ties in to gaining muscle. The older one gets, the more you lose. The more you have, the more you can lose without the adverse effects.
I went for the follow-up to my biometric tests at work. My BMI was 21. They were shocked to see I put on 12 lbs in 5 days.
Chicken. Broccoli. Oatmeal.
Stirchley
09-16-19, 07:14 PM
⬆️ Okay, got it.
lenslady
09-17-19, 12:39 AM
So are you doing weight bearing exercises to build muscle too?
Good that you are eating very healthy foods to gain the weight. You could also try avocados which I hear are quite healthy, if you can stand the green little buggers.
The mystery to me is how you've stayed so admirably slim eating all those donuts !!!!
(Not fair)
Well good luck to you doubledenim , even tho I woulda thought you are too young to worry about muscle loss. But you are never too young to try and be healthy,
right ?
(Donuts !!!! and if I remember correctly - chocolate cake for breakfast one time- sooooooooo not fair!)
doubledenim
09-17-19, 05:34 AM
So are you doing weight bearing exercises to build muscle too?
Ab-So-Lutely! :D I have always had mixed results,despite following a steady regimen. I have found that heavy weight (something that can't be done more than 6 reps) with extra sets is working better for me.
Good that you are eating very healthy foods to gain the weight. You could also try avocados which I hear are quite healthy, if you can stand the green little buggers.
In light of all the calories, I am watching my fat intake. In addition, I aim to stay away from the animal fat and cholesterol that usually comes with it. My cholesterol lab from my blood work came back really good. Then again, a lot of the cholesterol is genetics.
The mystery to me is how you've stayed so admirably slim eating all those donuts !!!!
(Not fair)
Well good luck to you @doubledenim (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=84479) , even tho I woulda thought you are too young to worry about muscle loss. But you are never too young to try and be healthy,
right ?
(Donuts !!!! and if I remember correctly - chocolate cake for breakfast one time- sooooooooo not fair!)
As much as I ham it up about doughnuts, being the LA Doughnut King :suspicious: , I indulge in that stuff sporadically. I try to keep stuff out of the house, because I am prone to emotional eating. Especially after a long day, nerves shot, you want that instant gratification. Other than that, most days go by without "the shug".
the samoan lawyer
09-17-19, 09:49 AM
Ab-So-Lutely! :D I have always had mixed results,despite following a steady regimen. I have found that heavy weight (something that can't be done more than 6 reps) with extra sets is working better for me.
Interested to hear what exercises you've been doing DD. That's some going, well done.
doubledenim
09-17-19, 10:45 AM
Ab-So-Lutely! :D I have always had mixed results,despite following a steady regimen. I have found that heavy weight (something that can't be done more than 6 reps) with extra sets is working better for me.
Interested to hear what exercises you've been doing DD. That's some going, well done.
I do a push/pull/legs split
Push
Bench
Incline fly
Arm raises
Shoulder press
Skullcrusher
Incline bench
Pushup
Pull
Chin-up
Pull-up
Shrug
Curl
Hammer curl
Bent over row
Backrow
Legs
Squat
Deadlift
Calf raise
Lunge
Goblet squat
I need to work on integrating combo exercises. There is a lot of info on the only 3 exercises... Squat, deadlift, hang clean. I need to get a Smith machine and Olympic bar first. I do everything with dumbells.
the samoan lawyer
09-17-19, 11:54 AM
I do a push/pull/legs split
Push
Bench
Incline fly
Arm raises
Shoulder press
Skullcrusher
Incline bench
Pushup
Pull
Chin-up
Pull-up
Shrug
Curl
Hammer curl
Bent over row
Backrow
Legs
Squat
Deadlift
Calf raise
Lunge
Goblet squat
I need to work on integrating combo exercises. There is a lot of info on the only 3 exercises... Squat, deadlift, hang clean. I need to get a Smith machine and Olympic bar first. I do everything with dumbells.
Do you mean supersets?
That's all pretty similar to what I was doing for PPL. I don't get that much now with the new arrival, so going to try and plan new routine of just compounds only in the 1 session. I'll probably not get going consecutive days so should be time to recover from deadlifts and bench etc.
doubledenim
09-17-19, 01:24 PM
I'll have to look up supersets.
I shoot for being able to do a set of 8 reps, 3x's and then move to heavier weight. Until I can do that, I add an extra set.
I'm looking to the compound exercises to make more out of less time. I get up at 2am, coffee and stretch till 2:30am, do as much as I can by 3:20am, then morning out the door stuff.
John McClane
09-17-19, 03:32 PM
Front squats, man. Front squats.
doubledenim
09-19-19, 07:04 AM
It's all about firing those glutes, the glutes man. Glutes. Hip press till your legs disintegrate.
the samoan lawyer
09-19-19, 09:20 AM
I'll have to look up supersets.
I shoot for being able to do a set of 8 reps, 3x's and then move to heavier weight. Until I can do that, I add an extra set.
I'm looking to the compound exercises to make more out of less time. I get up at 2am, coffee and stretch till 2:30am, do as much as I can by 3:20am, then morning out the door stuff.
Supersets are great, especially if short on time. Its basically just doing another exercise, usually isolation, straight after the first exercise and its counted as 1 set, then rest, then do same.
Also check out drop sets, they're a killer too.
doubledenim
01-01-20, 05:55 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Ygdc6TN.jpg?2
Looks may be deceiving
Who knows how much is real weight versus fat, we shall see.
Ups and downs over here. As usual, bit of an uptick in weight in the fall/holidays, but this time it's a bit more than I was expecting or am comfortable with. Mostly back on the right track but it is a little demoralizing to lose the "same" 10 lbs a third time. Plan for 2020 is to both hit a new low and stay in that general range.
To that end, I've been lifting regularly the last couple of months. About four years ago I did a fair amount of weight lifting for softball, saw great results, but then basically stopped and it had more or less atrophied after a couple of years. Ramping it up this time, and planning on keeping it up pretty much indefinitely.
I might be hard pressed to way less on February 6th than I did the previous year, which would be the first time I've failed to do that since I started all this, but we'll see. If I get close and the difference is muscle, that'll work. But I'm going to push myself as hard as ever this month and try to hit new plateaus across the board. Little nervous about it, since I'll be working out more and eating a lot less simultaneously, and in the past it's usually been one or the other, but it's time to find out what's possible.
doubledenim
01-02-20, 01:29 PM
The diet stuff is where it gets ruff. I am going to eat vegan the best I can, but it is hard to find the protein and keep the calories down. At 180, I can have about 2100-2200 calories.
This morning I had
1banana
1 scoop of Vega
1/2 c peanuts
1 1/2 c almond milk
2/3 c granola
which is 870 calories and 44g protein. That meal by itself 3 times a day would put me over on calories and not close to my protein goal. I realize I won't be able to consume a gram of protein per pound of body weight, but I want to get as close as possible.
It's funny when I realize how I eat peanuts, versus what you can have when you measure them out :lol:
Yeah, nuts in general have tons of calories. Peanut butter is basically calorie paste. Fruit/fiber is good for filling up with low calories.
I'm mostly leaning on scrambled eggs, but that gets a bit boring. Very, very effective though.
Mr Minio
01-02-20, 02:34 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Ygdc6TN.jpg?2
Looks may be deceiving
Who knows how much is real weight versus fat, we shall see.
Sexy thin legs for somebody who weighs 180 kg xD
Bleh. I'm keeping goals teeny tiny this year. Having Puppy had inspired me to start walking her at the local mini-park with the intent to get us both up to jogging. So much for that plan.
Still though, the hip pains seem to have really eased up these past several months so maybe I'll get back into it after all. Baby Murray Steps.
doubledenim
01-02-20, 03:26 PM
Sexy thin legs for somebody who weighs 180 kg xD
Riding an ostrich, buddy. That's how I roll :p
In all seriousness tho, how you get those socks so perfectly aligned?
doubledenim
01-02-20, 06:38 PM
In all seriousness tho, how you get those socks so perfectly aligned?
Errrm, you mean the guy who deletes and edits shouts?:rotfl:
You guys will never know how much I care about you. All the naked feet on scales weigh-ins that I have been traumatized by in the social media era. I figured I would put the Hornets socks on for the greater good and as a low-key, NC flex.
the samoan lawyer
01-03-20, 10:00 AM
Setting down the dumbells and barbells and sticking the running shoes on. Gonna start training for Belfast Marathon in May.
doubledenim
01-03-20, 10:09 AM
Setting down the dumbells and barbells and sticking the running shoes on. Gonna start training for Belfast Marathon in May.
I gotta give you a lot of respect for that. Never in my wildest dreams can I see myself doing a marathon. I can't even bring myself to do cardio in the first place.
the samoan lawyer
01-03-20, 10:16 AM
I gotta give you a lot of respect for that. Never in my wildest dreams can I see myself doing a marathon. I can't even bring myself to do cardio in the first place.
Cheers DD. I completed one back in 2013 then basically stopped running after it. Been lifting weights for a few years now but just fancied a year out to train hard then get back in the gym next year. Have to admit though, the thought of it is still daunting.
You ever do any boxing? Great workout. (maybe we discussed this before)
Stirchley
01-03-20, 04:15 PM
Never in my wildest dreams can I see myself doing a marathon.
My exercise - just about daily - is a 1-1/2 to 2 hours walk. I’m very slim & fit, but, like you, I could never run a marathon. Seeing people run the NYC marathon through the 5 boroughs is beyond my comprehension.
doubledenim
01-03-20, 04:38 PM
I met at friend at Salem Lake, which is 7 miles of trail. I'll admit that scenery makes a big difference compared to a treadmill facing a wall.
@ my attorney
I never got the heavy bag. My thoughts drifted to jiu-jitsu...
the samoan lawyer
01-06-20, 12:41 PM
I met at friend at Salem Lake, which is 7 miles of trail. I'll admit that scenery makes a big difference compared to a treadmill facing a wall.
@ my attorney
I never got the heavy bag. My thoughts drifted to jiu-jitsu...
Makes a big difference being outside. I never do any treadmill work.
Get a partner and do pads, I'm not a fan of heavy bag either. Do pads and rope, sorts the men from the boys.
Stirchley
01-06-20, 02:25 PM
I met at friend at Salem Lake, which is 7 miles of trail. I'll admit that scenery makes a big difference compared to a treadmill
I would love that. 7 miles is doable.
Nothing would make me go on a treadmill or enter a gym.
JoaoRodrigues
01-06-20, 04:14 PM
I don’t know if this belong here, probably not, but I’m suffering from balanitis and believe me, you don’t want that, it’s just what I needed to fell even more ****ty.
Stirchley
01-06-20, 04:17 PM
⬆️ Yikes, TMI.
doubledenim
01-07-20, 06:27 AM
Makes a big difference being outside. I never do any treadmill work.
Get a partner and do pads, I'm not a fan of heavy bag either. Do pads and rope, sorts the men from the boys.
I get the anti-treadmill sentiment, I loathe it. I'm not a fan of being outside running at 3 a.m. or using public roads for running/biking. We are semi-rural, so there are no sidewalks anywhere.
When you say ropes, do you mean battle ropes?
TheUsualSuspect
01-07-20, 08:43 AM
My kids are on the up and up. Jackson no longer has pneumonia and Miles seems to be getting over his snot filled rough nights.
Can I finally sleep? Doubtful.
the samoan lawyer
01-07-20, 09:14 AM
I get the anti-treadmill sentiment, I loathe it. I'm not a fan of being outside running at 3 a.m. or using public roads for running/biking. We are semi-rural, so there are no sidewalks anywhere.
When you say ropes, do you mean battle ropes?
That's understandable.. No I meant skipping rope. Battle ropes are great too, I hate them but I sometimes stick them in during an arm day and its a killer.
the samoan lawyer
01-07-20, 09:15 AM
My kids are on the up and up. Jackson no longer has pneumonia and Miles seems to be getting over his snot filled rough nights.
Can I finally sleep? Doubtful.
Its overrated anyway TUS.
Glad they're on the mend.
doubledenim
01-14-20, 08:44 PM
Taking the counsel of a well-known attorney, I broke out the rope. Pretty sure I was 75% of the way to blowing out my Achilles. Exercise is for the birds, I don't have another 30 mins to stretch :lol:
I really like jumping rope. There is a certain amount of attention it requires (unlike running for me) that really gets me focused. It is a lot different than what I remember as a kid.
the samoan lawyer
01-17-20, 10:10 AM
Taking the counsel of a well-known attorney, I broke out the rope. Pretty sure I was 75% of the way to blowing out my Achilles. Exercise is for the birds, I don't have another 30 mins to stretch :lol:
I really like jumping rope. There is a certain amount of attention it requires (unlike running for me) that really gets me focused. It is a lot different than what I remember as a kid.
Good work DD. I could never talk during it, always put me off.
Still pounding the pavements, should be up to 83 miles for the month, by the end of this week. Training actually going better than expected.
Still lifting regularly here. Probably about three months now. I'm not usually destroying myself or anything but I try to do a modest amount five times a week, and it seems to be making some difference.
Weight isn't as low as I'd liked, and slow to come off, though one would hope that's because some of it's just muscle, now. We'll see in a few more weeks.
Stirchley
01-17-20, 06:52 PM
Don’t know if other states have started an “Annual Wellness Visit” combined with Pro-Health Physicians. One can have an annual physical (which I do), but now they push you VERY HARD to have an AWV 6 months after the physical. Pro-Health (don’t know if they are in other states besides CT) must have called me 20 times to make this appt. & they assured me that the AWV is totally free, but there were comments on line that the doctor would make some kind of “diagnosis” that would have to be paid for as an office visit, which, in my case, is $15.
Don’t you know, even though I had the dumb ass AWV, I got a bill for an office visit for that day. Pro-Health told me on the phone it was because doctor mentioned “cholesterol”. Can you believe it?
The amazing thing is that the v. nice young man on the phone (in Texas) told me this is a complete rip off & that he gets 10 to 15 calls like mine every day. We had a long talk & he removed the $15 office visit charge so my balance is now zero.
Good to follow up with these things & question them. The American medical system here to help. :rolleyes:
doubledenim
01-26-20, 06:07 PM
The Bowflex :lol: is disassembled and labelled. So if any of youz wanna drive down to North Caroleans, come get it.
Citizen Rules
01-26-20, 09:25 PM
Geez Matt, I don't know what to say, except I'll send some positive thoughts your way:)...You smoke pot, doesn't that help you relax and be at peace? Or does it cause you to feel paranoid and alone? If pot helps you, that's good, but if it creates your problems then try quitting for a month and see if that helps. As far as drinking to help ease the pain goes, I can't see any good coming from the bottom of a bottle.
Have you been screened by a psychiatrist for mental issues? And if you didn't get help from your current psychiatrist, see another one and get some help for yourself, you deserve it! We all have crosses to bear so you're not alone!...A lot of folks have issues that can be treated with the right prescriptions and care regiments.
doubledenim
01-27-20, 05:32 AM
@matt72582 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=85325)
I hate to hear that Matt. Has anyone ever given you any idea where the health issues come from. Genetic, lifestyle, exposure, etc?
I'm really mixed up about the healthcare system. My sister is a NP and we have had some contentious conversations about healthcare. There is in an inherent problem in how our healthcare is a profit based system and I don't think there will ever be a solution, other than reducing costs/profits, which we all know the answer too.
I got in trouble with someone here about talking about government backed healthcare, so I don't want to tread into that one again. I do believe that America as a country is too prosperous for anyone to go hungry or suffer from lack of healthcare.
Wishing you the best Matt.
doubledenim
01-27-20, 05:34 AM
The squat-horse rack didn't quite pan out like I had hoped. It works, but that's a low-low go-go. Big difference in the feel, range of motion and safety squatting with the bar in light of that setup.
the samoan lawyer
01-27-20, 09:46 AM
The squat-horse rack didn't quite pan out like I had hoped. It works, but that's a low-low go-go. Big difference in the feel, range of motion and safety squatting with the bar in light of that setup.
What about trying with a seat behind you? Box squats I think they are called. So you are just squatting until you reach the seat then back up. Good for technique and less stress on knees.
the samoan lawyer
01-27-20, 09:48 AM
New PB yesterday on a half marathon run, coming in at 1:46:09, average pace 8:05 per mile. Wasn't gunning for it as my long runs are not to marathon pace but I'll take it.
doubledenim
01-27-20, 10:52 AM
The squat-horse rack didn't quite pan out like I had hoped. It works, but that's a low-low go-go. Big difference in the feel, range of motion and safety squatting with the bar in light of that setup.
What about trying with a seat behind you? Box squats I think they are called. So you are just squatting until you reach the seat then back up. Good for technique and less stress on knees.
That sounds like something worth trying.
I've got enough stuff in that shop to make something work until I get the cage. I'm not putting enough weight on there yet, so it's not too bad having to go that low.
Stirchley
01-27-20, 03:06 PM
I got in trouble with someone here about talking about government backed healthcare, so I don't want to tread into that one again. I do believe that America as a country is too prosperous for anyone to go hungry or suffer from lack of healthcare
America surely is the only country in the world where medical bills can land one in bankruptcy court.
doubledenim
01-27-20, 04:38 PM
I'm stealing this from someone...
We also don't hold ourselves responsible for our lifestyle choices and expect someone else to fix us for cheap.
Stirchley
01-27-20, 04:41 PM
⬆️ True. Always flabbergasted by people who don’t get their diabetes under control. The fear of blindness would scare me into doing so, not to mention the potential loss of limbs.
doubledenim
01-28-20, 05:28 AM
Pulled the trigger on the cage POWER RACK *rawr*
Looking forward to getting proper. Looking forward to having someone else deliver it and me dragging it in piece-by-piece from the driveway :cool:
doubledenim
03-15-20, 05:28 AM
This is a comparison of my biometric screening around October, versus the one I just did in February after switching to plant based food for New Years. For the record, I finished off the last Kodiak waffle my sister left behind. It didn't even cross my mind until after that fact that it had eggs and dairy. I think that is the only thing other than some fake cheese I ate, that was still somehow made with milk ingredients.
https://i.imgur.com/OeKgrvM.png
Eh. I loathe making a post in this thread because I generally hate healthiness. I'm lazy and I enjoy my country cooking too much, but life progresses with or without me and I have new slight motivation to try to help my health. Whether it's age awareness, self esteem, or whatever, I'm not sure. Probably a combination of several things. Regardless of why, I've found a subtle nagging need to start adding some form of activity to my day.
About 8 years back I started running. Hm. No, I started walking. Then trotting cut with walking. Then I started running in short bursts, followed by more walking. Then I got to where I could jog at a decent pace for a reasonably satisfying distance relative to where I started with it all. Then ... my hips started fighting me. That progression lasted approximately six months from start to finish. After a referral to a bone and joint specialist, my efforts came to a halt. We never figured what was happening, but my health insurance stopped at work about that time so that was that. I've since gained weight (more weight), became more lethargic and even more apathetic to life in general or the efforts necessary to maintain a level sense of health let alone improvement. I think depression was a huge factor there, but no need to go into those details. I'll just say several life events all played out in the span of a two year window---all to the negative. I hit a series of brick walls that I eventually gave up on trying to climb, in more ways than one.
It's been around 5 years since all that, now and it has been a slow, eking effort to get out of that mindset. I'm not sure I'm better, but maybe boredom can be a good thing.
So two weeks ago I ordered a small bench on Amazon. Nothing special. It's just a small bench with an inclining back. No bar holds or attachments. Just .... a bench. I still have my few dumbbells from before, so I thought I'd try to make use of them again. See where things go. The bench came in Monday and I've used it two nights since. I'm weak. Surprisingly so, but I am comforted knowing the first wall is probably the hardest to climb as my body adjusts and I adjust my mind to deal with it, procrastinating the procrastination. I do feed a sense of purpose and slight accomplishment for the minimal effort I've put in so far, but the fact I've bothered at all is a step in and of itself. I have no idea if I'll stick with it. If any of you have followed the few projects I've posted progress on here, then you know I rarely follow through! That's cool, I guess. My hips no longer ache the way they did. Maybe I'll go for a walk soon, as this Corona thing eases up here.
Anyhoo. There's my hat in the ring.
Stirchley
04-10-20, 01:52 PM
⬆️ Walking is a great way to fight depression once the endorphins (serotonin) kick in. I would be completely mental if I couldn’t do my daily walk. And I am not exaggerating.
And not only that, but I am beautifully slim. :)
the samoan lawyer
07-31-20, 07:35 AM
Any runners here? I started seriously, in Jan 20 with thoughts on Belfast marathon. Since then, there has been several major storms and a global pandemic that has cancelled the race twice! I'm well underway in my latest running schedule so I'm just going to do the run alone. Too much time and effort gone to waste.
the samoan lawyer
08-17-20, 12:20 PM
No runners then eh?
I completed my marathon alone in 3hours 33mins. Pleased with the time although I totally fell apart on my final mile. I went from a 7.50minute mile to 12.08 and ended up having to jog/walk my way to finish. A bit gutted getting to close to sub 3.30 but body completely broke down and literally felt like giving up.
I know a few, but never got into it myself. The people I know who are into it are really into it, though! Sounds like you're gettin' pretty hooked yourself.
John McClane
08-17-20, 12:28 PM
I still mostly have my abs from my college years. Slowly disappearing but I mean, I got them pretty thick back in the day so even tho they are weak AF they still show.
Seriously, at one point I was just slamming my abs everyday. I was a machine.
And now I can’t access the gym at work. :(
MovieMeditation
08-17-20, 12:50 PM
I used to run often. Not that much anymore but it happens occasionally. Definitely more so in the summer because I enjoy the nature side of it and the fresh air.
Lately I’ve been so busy my time for workouts and exercises have been pretty much non-existent. But I have a 3 week vacation now so I’m trying to get back into some sort of routine...
I want to lose some weight and gain more muscle but I’m nowhere near overweight though. It’s just some of that extra belly fat and stuff here and there. But I want to get back into a really good shape again. Felt so great way back when.
the samoan lawyer
08-17-20, 01:01 PM
I know a few, but never got into it myself. The people I know who are into it are really into it, though! Sounds like you're gettin' pretty hooked yourself.
Yeah, you could say that Yods. Find it great for my mental health too, being able to get out alone, in the fresh air. I'm relatively new to it so its nice being able to beat my own times, much like lifting weights at the gym. Might not be so enjoyable when putting so much effort in at a later stage and not getting better records.
the samoan lawyer
08-17-20, 01:01 PM
I still mostly have my abs from my college years. Slowly disappearing but I mean, I got them pretty thick back in the day so even tho they are weak AF they still show.
Seriously, at one point I was just slamming my abs everyday. I was a machine.
And now I can’t access the gym at work. :(
Good work! Running 5 days a week for 8 months and still no sign of mine
Yeah, you could say that Yods. Find it great for my mental health too, being able to get out alone, in the fresh air. I'm relatively new to it so its nice being able to beat my own times, much like lifting weights at the gym. Might not be so enjoyable when putting so much effort in at a later stage and not getting better records.
Makes sense. I can imagine that filling the same kind of need that meditation does.
Stirchley
08-17-20, 02:00 PM
... ended up having to jog/walk my way to finish. A bit gutted getting to close to sub 3.30 but body completely broke down and literally felt like giving up.
But you didn’t give up. You finished. Jogging/walking to the finish is nothing to be ashamed of. Crossing the finishing line is all that matters. :)
Find it great for my mental health too, being able to get out alone, in the fresh air.
Not running, but walking every day saves my sanity. I can start out in an evil mood, but, by the time I’m done, I’ve sorted myself out & I feel somewhat better. :)
the samoan lawyer
08-17-20, 03:13 PM
But you didn’t give up. You finished. Jogging/walking to the finish is nothing to be ashamed of. Crossing the finishing line is all that matters. :)
Not running, but walking every day saves my sanity. I can start out in an evil mood, but, by the time I’m done, I’ve sorted myself out & I feel somewhat better. :)
That's true Stirchley and at the time of walking, I thought that I would have to give up. Yep, walking equally as good, If I don't run, then I walk. :)
doubledenim
08-29-20, 07:51 PM
If anyone was ever worried about deficiencies caused by a plant-based diet, I've got some lab results and iron levels that are too high that you can look at.
All jokes aside, I'm sure it's just a sign of an undiagnosed physiological disorder.
the samoan lawyer
09-01-20, 09:55 AM
If anyone was ever worried about deficiencies caused by a plant-based diet, I've got some lab results and iron levels that are too high that you can look at.
All jokes aside, I'm sure it's just a sign of an undiagnosed physiological disorder.
Plant-based myself and no issues yet!
Stirchley
09-02-20, 03:46 PM
Plant-based myself and no issues yet!
I didn’t know this. Same here & no issues. :)
the samoan lawyer
09-03-20, 10:21 AM
I didn’t know this. Same here & no issues. :)
Yep. About 4 and a half years I think. How long for you?
Stirchley
09-04-20, 02:36 PM
Yep. About 4 and a half years I think. How long for you?
I am hopeless at dates. Within the last decade, for sure. Ten years maybe?
Literally woke up one morning & declared myself vegetarian. Was never too keen on meat though I ate it, but studying factory farming online made the decision for me. I am not vegan & I see no harm in an animal having a nice life & then being speedily killed for its meat (though I couldn’t do this), but I don’t want any part of animal cruelty.
Vegans are hyper-judgmental, but many farmers make a living out of raising cattle, etc. so I try to stay out of that debate.
It just occurred to me that you may be vegan?
doubledenim
09-05-20, 01:14 AM
:shifty:
Tequila
09-07-20, 12:45 PM
Any runners here? I started seriously, in Jan 20 with thoughts on Belfast marathon. Since then, there has been several major storms and a global pandemic that has cancelled the race twice! I'm well underway in my latest running schedule so I'm just going to do the run alone. Too much time and effort gone to waste.
I haven't run since lockdown, but in 2018 my children started doing these 5k weekly parkruns with my wife's auntie. Soon enough I ended up going and getting right into it, lol. My first time was 29mins 29 seconds and I was almost physically sick at the end which spurred me on to get fitter.
After that I ran 2-3 times a week and got my time down to 24mins 04 seconds (official parkrun time) and 23mins 45 seconds (unofficially on a 5k non parkrun) before the lockdown was enforced.
I am hoping to get back into it when my kids go back to school.
Also congrats on a time 3 hours 33mins, that's a good time for someone who's only recently started running.
the samoan lawyer
09-08-20, 08:42 AM
I haven't run since lockdown, but in 2018 my children started doing these 5k weekly parkruns with my wife's auntie. Soon enough I ended up going and getting right into it, lol. My first time was 29mins 29 seconds and I was almost physically sick at the end which spurred me on to get fitter.
After that I ran 2-3 times a week and got my time down to 24mins 04 seconds (official parkrun time) and 23mins 45 seconds (unofficially on a 5k non parkrun) before the lockdown was enforced.
I am hoping to get back into it when my kids go back to school.
Also congrats on a time 3 hours 33mins, that's a good time for someone who's only recently started running.
Thanks Tequila and good work on your 5k! I'm fully onboard with Parkrun, I think its a great idea. I'm always busy on a Saturday morning unless we are away for the weekend so have ran more in other locations than my home one. I think I actually heard its starting up again in England in October?
Started doing some trail running and really enjoying it these days. Entered a half marathon trail end of this month, hoping it stays on!
the samoan lawyer
09-08-20, 08:44 AM
I am hopeless at dates. Within the last decade, for sure. Ten years maybe?
Literally woke up one morning & declared myself vegetarian. Was never too keen on meat though I ate it, but studying factory farming online made the decision for me. I am not vegan & I see no harm in an animal having a nice life & then being speedily killed for its meat (though I couldn’t do this), but I don’t want any part of animal cruelty.
Vegans are hyper-judgmental, but many farmers make a living out of raising cattle, etc. so I try to stay out of that debate.
It just occurred to me that you may be vegan?
yep lol ;)
yep lol ;)
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/MassiveImprobableArcherfish-size_restricted.gif
:D
the samoan lawyer
09-09-20, 12:07 PM
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/MassiveImprobableArcherfish-size_restricted.gif
:D
https://media.tenor.com/images/63df804693a61617e9b57ea2701384fa/tenor.gif (https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftenor.com%2Fsearch%2Fvegans-gifs&psig=AOvVaw3GcMevhsOoqhGfTUvXe0s9&ust=1599750374692000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCKi4ptms3OsCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAP)
Stirchley
09-09-20, 03:04 PM
I respect anyone who is vegan, but it’s way too complicated for me. No wool, no leather, no sugar. Just to name 3 things vegans avoid.
Vegans on Twitter are awful. Never come across such a sanctimonious bunch.
the samoan lawyer
09-28-20, 06:51 AM
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=68130
Half marathon trail race at the weekend. New pb.
Stirchley
09-28-20, 02:31 PM
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=68130
Okay, so 13 miles (more or less) is the length of Manhattan north to south. Amazing you could run that in 90 minutes. You’re faster than Über!
Try to draw something next time. :laugh:
(Nice job!)
Chypmunk
09-28-20, 02:38 PM
Try to draw something next time. :laugh:
Yeah, drawing whilst running surely has to at least slow him down a bit and make it slightly less embarrassing for some of us how much quicker than us he is ;)
Mebbe start with something like Van Gogh's Sunflowers and gradually work your way up to Bosch's Triptych of the Temptation of St. Anthony.
John McClane
09-28-20, 02:39 PM
I respect anyone who is vegan, but it’s way too complicated for me. No wool, no leather, no sugar. Just to name 3 things vegans avoid.
Vegans on Twitter are awful. Never come across such a sanctimonious bunch.All I know is if they are using gasoline to power their car then they ain't a true vegan. Think of the dinosaurs! ;)
Stirchley
09-28-20, 02:45 PM
All I know is if they are using gasoline to power their car then they ain't a true vegan. Think of the dinosaurs! ;)
Ha. I was thinking this morning on my walk as to whether every vegan really is vegan. I bet a ton of them don’t know sugar is not vegan.
John McClane
09-28-20, 03:47 PM
Ha. I was thinking this morning on my walk as to whether every vegan really is vegan. I bet a ton of them don’t know sugar is not vegan.Funnily enough. If these vegans had been around when homo sapiens first appeared. Well, they wouldn't have survived.
Stirchley
09-28-20, 04:05 PM
⬆️ Weren’t Adam & Eve vegan?
John McClane
09-28-20, 05:10 PM
Adam was vegan. Eve was made from one of his ribs, so...animal cruelty. ;)
I respect anyone who is vegan, but it’s way too complicated for me. No wool, no leather, no sugar. Just to name 3 things vegans avoid.
Vegans on Twitter are awful. Never come across such a sanctimonious bunch.
Try the Twitter knitting community. Those people are total savages.
Chypmunk
09-28-20, 05:38 PM
Try the Twitter knitting community. Those people are total savages.
Definitely agree with this. There's a reason people say "Alright, don't get your twitters in a knit!" when they are telling someone to calm down.
Stirchley
09-28-20, 07:04 PM
Try the Twitter knitting community. Those people are total savages.
Not to mention they have sharp knitting needles. :eek:
the samoan lawyer
09-29-20, 09:53 AM
Okay, so 13 miles (more or less) is the length of Manhattan north to south. Amazing you could run that in 90 minutes. You’re faster than Über!
Thanks Stirchley. Will take that comment on board re. Uber. Might be a business idea there somewhere.
the samoan lawyer
09-29-20, 09:54 AM
Try to draw something next time. :laugh:
(Nice job!)
I thought it looked quite like some sort of space gun?!
Stirchley
09-30-20, 02:36 PM
Adam was vegan. Eve was made from one of his ribs, so...animal cruelty. ;)
So you’re saying Adam was an “animal”? A remark like that could get you stoned in certain countries. :p
Thanks Stirchley. Will take that comment on board re. Uber. Might be a business idea there somewhere.
Rickshaw driver? Or puller, whatever those guys are called. ;)
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