Bear eats girl, mum hears everything

[Skepsis93]

A DISTRAUGHT mother listened on a mobile phone as her teenage daughter was eaten alive by a brown bear and its three cubs.

Olga Moskalyova, 19, gave an horrific hour-long running commentary on her own death in three separate calls as the wild animals killed her.

She screamed: “Mum, the bear is eating me! Mum, it’s such agony. Mum, help!’”

Her mother Tatiana said that at first thought she was joking. “But then I heard the real horror and pain in Olga’s voice, and the sounds of a bear growling and chewing.”

She added: “I could have died then and there from shock.”

Unknown to Tatiana, the bear had already killed her husband Igor Tsyganenkov – Olga’s stepfather – by overpowering him, breaking his neck and smashing his skull. Olga, a trainee psychologist, saw the *attack on her stepfather in tall grass and reeds by a river in Russia and fled for 70 yards before the mother bear grabbed her leg.

As the creature toyed with her, she managed to call Tatiana several times during the prolonged attack. Tatiana rang her husband – not knowing he was *already dead – but got no answer.

She alerted the police and relatives in the village of Termalniy, near Petropavlovsk Kamchatskiy, in the extreme east of Siberia.

She begged them to rush to the river where the pair had gone to retrieve a fishing rod that Igor had left.

In a second call, a weak Olga gasped: “Mum, the bears are back. She came back and brought her three babies. They’re... eating me”.

Finally, in her last call – almost an hour after the first – Olga sensed she was on the verge of death.

With the bears having apparently left her to die, she said: “Mum, it’s not hurting anymore. I don’t feel the pain. Forgive me for everything, I love you so much.”

The call cut off and that was the last Tatiana heard from her daughter. Half an hour later, Igor’s brother Andrei arrived with police to find the mother bear still devouring his body. Badly mauled Olga was also dead.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/265455/Bear-s-eating-me-girl-told

Can you even imagine...?

[Juno MacGuff]

OMG, that is just awful.

[Sexy Celebrity]

And yet we make all those stupid teddy bears and give them to our kids and loved ones... that just makes me hate bears and want to kill them all.

[7thson]

There are three places one should never go: Hell, between a rock and a hard place, and - a place that bears would be justified if they knew how to post a no trespassing sign.

[Tripod]

What has the world come to? :-/

[Sexy Celebrity]

What has the world come to? :-/

I have no idea. What the hell is Mother Earth doing by suddenly making all of these maneating bears?!

There are three places one should never go: Hell, between a rock and a hard place, and - a place that bears would be justified if they knew how to post a no trespassing sign.

I survived all of them.

[Tripod]

Well Nature has taken its toll..And this time it's got an appetite!

[akatemple]

Holy Crap, I don't know what to say, that is just awful, wow that shows the true strength of the human spirit, to call all those times even when she was really dying.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Holy Crap, I don't know what to say, that is just awful, wow that shows the true strength of the human spirit, to call all those times even when she was really dying.

At least she didn't text.

[Nausicaä]

A 19 year old trainee psychologist... forgive my ignorance, but to work in such an area don't you have to study for 3 or 4 years at least before you start the nitty gritty of training... 19 is only a year or so into a degree.

Of all the things to pick out... :p

[ash_is_the_gal]

i thought that said 'bum' instead of 'bear' in the title.

[Deadite]

Stuff like this is why I find the idea of a caring God absurd.

[Yoda]

Then you can't have delved into the issue much, because it's fairly easily reconciled. The amount of literature on the topic is staggering, and there are probably a good 4-5 threads on this very forum on the topic.

[Deadite]

Then you can't have delved into the issue much, because it's fairly easily reconciled. The amount of literature on the topic is staggering, and there are probably a good 4-5 threads on this very forum on the topic.

I am aware of the usual excuses. They don't fly.

But I have no interest in engaging you or anyone in a religious debate. It's useless to try to reason with people who believe in invisible beings with magic powers.

[Yoda]

"They don't fly." Ironclad refutation, that. And if you don't want to get into religious debates, maybe don't start them in the middle of unrelated threads, yeah?

It is similarly useless to try to reason with people who think they can reduce the whole of religious thought to "invisible beings with magic powers." Whatever one believes, absolute intellectual giants have believed such things, and dismissing them entirely out of hand as if the issue were obvious to any reasonable person...well...that don't fly.

[Deadite]

First of all, I expressed my personal feeling, I didn't start a debate. And second, yes, it's related, whether you like it or not. Third, I'm not impressed by name-dropping to support an argument. That tactic doesn't really mean anything, it's just lazy thinking.

All I did was speak my opinion, and you chose to come at me insultingly with some remark about how little I must know. Screw you, dude.

[Yoda]

First of all, I expressed my personal feeling, I didn't start a debate.
You expressed a feeling you must have known would be potentially controversial, and you expressed it an especially curt and confrontational way (saying the idea was "absurd"). If you don't understand why this is likely to start a debate, I don't know what to tell you, guy.

And second, yes, it's related, whether you like it or not. Third, I'm not impressed by name-dropping to support an argument. That tactic doesn't really mean anything, it's just lazy thinking.
When the claim being disputed is that it's completely unreasonable or absurd to believe in God, then yeah, pointing out that some very reasonable people have done so means quite a bit.

Now, if the argument were about God's actual existence then something more substantial would be required, but it doesn't take quite that much to refute such an extreme position. And please, pause to appreciate the irony in accusing someone else of "lazy thinking" immediately after telling them that all theists are so inherently unreasonable that there'd be no use in arguing with them, anyway.

All I did was speak my opinion, and you chose to come at me insultingly with some remark about how little I must know. Screw you, dude.
Your initial remark (to say nothing of your second) implies the exact same thing about theists, if not worse. You can't have it both ways: you can't take cheap shots at other people's beliefs and then act hurt and offended that when they don't respond well.

[Deadite]

Give it a rest.

[Yoda]

The moment you stop saying insulting things about my beliefs is the moment I stop arguing with you about it. You don't see me harping on you in other threads we've disagreed in. You control this.

[Deadite]

I've got a better idea, I"ll post my opinion all I want and ignore you if/when you start your crap.

[Yoda]

An even better idea: when you ignore me, I'll assume it's because you don't have a response and can't back up the extreme things you say.

Win-win.

[Deadite]

I really don't care what you assume.

I posted my PERSONAL OPINION. You go ahead and disagree with that all you like.

[Yoda]

Your "PERSONAL OPINION" also happened to be an insult to quite a few people who believe otherwise. I don't know why you keep referring back to the fact that it's your opinion, as if that shields it from any disagreement.

It's also disingenuous to call it a personal opinion when you chose to make it public. You might have a point in all this mess if I'd gone out of my way to ask you what you thought and then berated you for it. But I didn't.

[Deadite]

You have basically attacked me for saying I find the idea of a caring God absurd. Feel free to get offended because I think it's absurd, but don't think you can browbeat me into not saying so.

[Yoda]

I find it bizarre that you think me arguing with you about this, and trying to show you why what you said is reductionist and insulting, constitutes "browbeating."

And it's interesting that you call my reply an "attack," but that what you said is a "personal opinion."

[SamsoniteDelilah]

I'm an agnostic/atheist and even I think the "bad things are proof there's no God (or a nasty God)" is a silly argument. If I'm God, apparently I have long ago decided everybody dies. In this scenario, I've also accomplished three awesome things:

1. Two dead people. Since avoiding death is not a goal, this is just efficient.
2. Four bears, well fed. You're welcome, bears!
3. Olga's mom got a terrible goodbye, but she and her mom got to say goodbye, and that's good when that happens. Better than it not happening.

I do feel for the mom in this story, though. Hearing your child go through that and being powerless to stop it must have been positively horrible. Losing your husband and child at the same time, devastating.

[Sedai]

How about a little respect and maybe a modicum of discretion here for people that were EATEN ALIVE. Not the best place to take a piss on religious beliefs is it?

[Skepsis93]

I'm an atheist myself but this story backs up religion, if anything. Theoretically, God's creation was messed with - as the article says, "The double killing is the latest in a spate of bear attacks across Russia, as the hungry animals seek food in areas where people have encroached and settled on their former habitat". Seems to me as if that could be construed as God trying to restore natural order.

[TONGO]

If this really happened, and I hope this is a made up fake story, then this would be the first time I ever wanted to shoot a bear dead. What a horror.

[Ash_Lee]

Well, I guess this thread had to reach two pages somehow.

It's a pretty awful story, and to be honest I didn't believe it at first because it seemed like one of these shock horror urban myth stories, but then I guess these things do happen.

[Nausicaä]

If this really happened, and I hope this is a made up fake story, then this would be the first time I ever wanted to shoot a bear dead. What a horror.


Fair enough if it's happening at the time and you shoot the bear while it's attacking, but why want to shoot it after the event as punishment, it's hunting and feeding in its natural habitat(I assume going by the story)...

It's like these poor sharks, they 'attack' and eat someone out surfing and all hell breaks loose where people have to find it and kill it... why? it's a predator thinking it's come across food - it doesn't think, "ooooooo that's a human being, that's a no go area for moi".

[planet news]

Stuff like this is why I find the idea of a caring God absurd.To be honest... I felt the same way when reading.

Though, on the other hand, it is the redemption of such a terrible death that motivates the formulation of belief in "something better" in the first place. So it's really a double bind or circle. It is both that which makes us cry out to God at His cruelty and that which makes us need a God to redeem it.

[Yoda]

Fair enough if it's happening at the time and you shoot the bear while it's attacking, but why want to shoot it after the event as punishment, it's hunting and feeding in its natural habitat(I assume going by the story)...

It's like these poor sharks, they 'attack' and eat someone out surfing and all hell breaks loose where people have to find it and kill it... why? it's a predator thinking it's come across food - it doesn't think, "ooooooo that's a human being, that's a no go area for moi".
The only rational explanation I can think of comes from the idea that some animals develop a "taste" for people once they've eaten them. I have no idea if that's generally true or whether or not it's true of some species' but not others, however. But that's at least one potentially logical reason, I think.

Outside of the logical, there is, of course, whatever sense of closure or justice the family might derive from it.

[Ronemara]

This is horrible.. Ohmygod.. Think about how traumatized that Mum must be!

[Sexy Celebrity]

I didn't see anything wrong with Deadite's initial statement - that this event makes the idea of God seem absurd. Take it or leave it, I say. I do see it as a personal opinion and it could just be a "first thought comment" to reply to this thread with - not everyone's in the mood to give their convincing reasons about why God isn't real and not everything said is meant to be an insult unless you can't help to feel insulted or you choose to be insulted, perhaps because you simply won't ignore it. I believe that Yoda just loves to debate about the issue - and maybe even try to convince others that there is, in fact, a God, at the same time. If I'm wrong about that, I'm sorry, but it seems to happen a lot - he appears when God is mentioned.

I personally feel the way that Deadite feels -- I mean, I'm at a point now where I don't even really think about God when I read about such an event. Those are wild animals and sometimes they kill human beings (and eat them, apparently.) While I agree that maybe the bears should be unharmed after doing what came natural to them, at the same time, if those bears had killed people I loved, I would kill them all and I would spend the rest of my life killing every bear I saw, probably. Something like that can have the power to change you and make you hateful. It might not, but I would understand if it did.

I'm an agnostic/atheist and even I think the "bad things are proof there's no God (or a nasty God)" is a silly argument. If I'm God, apparently I have long ago decided everybody dies. In this scenario, I've also accomplished three awesome things:

1. Two dead people. Since avoiding death is not a goal, this is just efficient.
2. Four bears, well fed. You're welcome, bears!
3. Olga's mom got a terrible goodbye, but she and her mom got to say goodbye, and that's good when that happens. Better than it not happening.


Entertaining, but I find that a silly excuse for God. Also, this is only based on the idea of a certain kind of God. There are many different interpretations of God and other Gods. I mean, I'm sure you find that all a silly excuse for God, too, but... I wonder why there's that need to take up for the opposite belief system by even saying all of this. I know of some people who go RAVING when people even casually mention that they believe in God, even just a little, and I find it sometimes more disturbing on their part, but sometimes I do see the passion and power in simply sticking to your guns and not even trying to help along the other side, which is what I kinda feel like you've done here, SamsoniteDelilah. I don't think it's bad, but I wonder why so many people are this way. It seems quite common among atheists/agnostics around here, even myself at times. It makes it more pleasing to meet people who are gung-ho about the Godless universe.

The sad truth is that there's so many nightmarish things happening to people everyday. I mean, The Berenstain Bears Make Human Sandwiches For Lunch isn't any worse than say, the 9/11 attacks, or the murders that occur between humans everyday in the world. Plus, we eat animals all the time -- where is God in all of that, then? Oh, that's right -- religions say they were made to be eaten, don't they? It's true that you shouldn't stress out over God being absent in the universe because of bears eating people as you're chomping away at a chicken sandwich and perhaps a zesty meatball sub.

And that's all I'll say for now since I just lost my train of thought. Except...

How about a little respect and maybe a modicum of discretion here for people that were EATEN ALIVE. Not the best place to take a piss on religious beliefs is it?

I see nothing wrong with it and I kind of hate when people play the "respect" card. I thought this was a discussion forum -- why are we limited with the number of things we can talk about? I mean, making a new thread to branch off from the bear story to connect it with God and religion would seem unnecessary to me -- if it's only done out of respect to this thread, as if this is some kind of wake/funeral/memorial for those people who got eaten alive. I'm not saying we should trash these characters and turn the situation into total mockery (though, personally, I don't see why that idea is logically bad if it was done) but a little talk about how this makes God look unreal -- why is that bad? Why is that disrespectful? You could turn it completely around and say that people who come in here and say, "God bless them all" or "I'm sure it's okay because they're in Heaven now" is also disrespectful --- but nobody would counter by saying it is. I'm pretty sure of that. They would get off the hook. That's why we have people bold enough to say Anti-God things - because religious people have had quite a lot of freedom to douse everybody with their own statements and beliefs for centuries.

[Yoda]

not everything said is meant to be an insult unless you can't help to feel insulted or you choose to be insulted
You don't think it's inherently insulting to call other people's beliefs (let alone such commonly and dearly held ones) "absurd"? I find that difficult to believe.

[Sexy Celebrity]

You don't think it's inherently insulting to call other people's beliefs (let alone such commonly and dearly held ones) "absurd"? I find that difficult to believe.

To their face? Maybe. On an internet discussion forum? Maybe not. But yes in some cases. However, the subject of God and religious beliefs hadn't even been brought up yet in this thread -- so Deadite wasn't really purposely insulting anybody. I do believe he just made a personal opinion from a reaction to the story. If people got insulted, I believe they couldn't help it -- but I don't see why that's grounds for not discussing things or even commenting with opinions based on your own beliefs. I would have been totally okay if somebody had said something in regards to the situation that was pro-God -- why can't people get insulted when they don't believe in God? They do all the time, yes, but, I just... (my emotions are really dragging me away from all of this that I can't think right now...) I don't think this is a situation where it should have been seen as insulting right away. I think there's room for a lot of opinions that can be valid, both pro-God and anti-God.

If you were insulted, then fine, go ahead and talk about it. But I do understand the reasons for not trying to gang up on Deadite and ask him to give all kinds of reasons about why God doesn't exist, etc.

[Yoda]

To their face? Maybe. On an internet discussion forum? Maybe not. But yes in some cases. However, the subject of God and religious beliefs hadn't even been brought up yet in this thread -- so Deadite wasn't really purposely insulting anybody. I do believe he just made a personal opinion from a reaction to the story.
I don't see why it matters that it's an opinion. Almost all insults are opinions; that doesn't exempt them from a reaction. And the "personal" prefix, as I said earlier, seems like a misnomer, given that it was posted publicly for the express purpose of being read and replied to. It should shock no one that it garnered a response.

If people got insulted, I believe they couldn't help it -- but I don't see why that's grounds for not discussing things or even commenting with opinions based on your own beliefs. I would have been totally okay if somebody had said something in regards to the situation that was pro-God -- why can't people get insulted when they don't believe in God? They do all the time.
Because saying something like "they're in Heaven now" or "God bless them" doesn't mock atheists. Like, at all. It indicates belief, but it does not insult non-believers.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Because saying something like "they're in Heaven now" or "God bless them" doesn't mock atheists. Like, at all. It indicates belief, but it does not insult non-believers.

So, you're saying that if Deadite had come in here and said - for example: "This is what happens in a universe where there is no God" -- you wouldn't have been insulted and this whole thing wouldn't have happened at all? Because, to me, that doesn't look insulting to believers.

[Yoda]

Even that wouldn't be analogous, since it makes a declaration rather than simply implies something. A better comparison would be "these things happen in an uncaring universe." Which I would not find insulting at all and probably wouldn't have even replied to.

[will.15]

Is there any evidence this actually happened?

FACT: Bears rarely eat people.

Just checked internet and there appears reason to believe the story is not true. Russia being a notorious source for fake stories. I remember decades ago the phony stories about peasants living to be a hundred and fifty years old in certain communities. It was all bull. So the evidence or lack of it that there is a God does not apply here. If there was a God, would he allow phony crap like this to be believed?

[Sexy Celebrity]

It doesn't ring true to me. A bear is eating you and you call your mother to say goodbye? "Hey, mom. What's up? Oh, nothing. Just getting eaten by a bear. Oh, you hear him? Sounds gross, right? Wait, hold on a second, mom -- AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! Okay, I'm back, I just needed to scream. Yeah. Yeah, I'm dying. Uh-huh. Right. *laughs* That tickled. No, I'm okay, mom - well, actually, no, I'm not really okay. He's eating my hips right now -- you know how much my hips don't lie. Yeah. Yeah, I love you, too. Okay, I gotta go, mom. No, I can't call you back later, mom -- I'LL BE DEAD. Right. Okay. I love you, too. Find youself some friends and you'll be okay. Alright. Alright, I really gotta go, mom - I'm losing consciousness. Yes, I will. Love you. Bye."

I would think the bears would probably grab your hands or the cell phone and at least make it impossible for you to use your phone and have a conversation. You would have to somehow be unable to move and defend yourself -- they would have to be start eating at your legs. Why not start with the head or the chest/stomach -- things that would make it hard to speak? I can't imagine I'd think of calling my mom if I had all these bears eating at me.

It really seems based off of terrorist stories -- you know, like when you're in a terrorist situation, you call your family and tell them this is the last talk, that you're gonna die and it's over. But here it's with bears. Very, very bizarre.

[honeykid]

She screamed: “Mum, the bear is eating me! Mum, it’s such agony. Mum, help!’”
I had barely started the little bit above this when I saw this and decided the whole thing was crap.

There again, I probably wouldn't have believed this, had it just been a transcript on the net.

This might be NSFW for some.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlIPx6MYE-U

Just to clarify, I don't believe the bear story, but it made me think of that clip and I love that clip.

Also, there is no God.

That is all. :)

[Ðèstîñy]

I never read the situation, because stuff like that bugs me way too much. I assumed she heard it, because it was one of those situations where it got in their home, and the mother was somewhere safe. I couldn't grasp why the mother didn't try something to save her daughter, but I didn't know any details, so I tried not to judge her. Now that I know it's a phone call, I don't believe it either.

[SamsoniteDelilah]

I didn't see anything wrong with Deadite's initial statement - that this event makes the idea of God seem absurd. Take it or leave it, I say. I do see it as a personal opinion and it could just be a "first thought comment" to reply to this thread with - not everyone's in the mood to give their convincing reasons about why God isn't real and not everything said is meant to be an insult unless you can't help to feel insulted or you choose to be insulted, perhaps because you simply won't ignore it. I believe that Yoda just loves to debate about the issue - and maybe even try to convince others that there is, in fact, a God, at the same time. If I'm wrong about that, I'm sorry, but it seems to happen a lot - he appears when God is mentioned.

I personally feel the way that Deadite feels -- I mean, I'm at a point now where I don't even really think about God when I read about such an event. Those are wild animals and sometimes they kill human beings (and eat them, apparently.) While I agree that maybe the bears should be unharmed after doing what came natural to them, at the same time, if those bears had killed people I loved, I would kill them all and I would spend the rest of my life killing every bear I saw, probably. Something like that can have the power to change you and make you hateful. It might not, but I would understand if it did.



Entertaining, but I find that a silly excuse for God. Also, this is only based on the idea of a certain kind of God. There are many different interpretations of God and other Gods. I mean, I'm sure you find that all a silly excuse for God, too, but... I wonder why there's that need to take up for the opposite belief system by even saying all of this. I know of some people who go RAVING when people even casually mention that they believe in God, even just a little, and I find it sometimes more disturbing on their part, but sometimes I do see the passion and power in simply sticking to your guns and not even trying to help along the other side, which is what I kinda feel like you've done here, SamsoniteDelilah. I don't think it's bad, but I wonder why so many people are this way. It seems quite common among atheists/agnostics around here, even myself at times. It makes it more pleasing to meet people who are gung-ho about the Godless universe.

The sad truth is that there's so many nightmarish things happening to people everyday. I mean, The Berenstain Bears Make Human Sandwiches For Lunch isn't any worse than say, the 9/11 attacks, or the murders that occur between humans everyday in the world. Plus, we eat animals all the time -- where is God in all of that, then? Oh, that's right -- religions say they were made to be eaten, don't they? It's true that you shouldn't stress out over God being absent in the universe because of bears eating people as you're chomping away at a chicken sandwich and perhaps a zesty meatball sub.

And that's all I'll say for now since I just lost my train of thought...
I'm afraid I lost your train of thought too, tbh. You seem to be questioning why I felt the need to make that post, but you've said some of the same things that I felt, which motivated me to write it: that the notion of a loving God is not determined by whether people get what they want. Bad things happen, it's a part of nature and of life. And that fact does not rule out the possibility of a loving God.

[Ronemara]

It doesn't ring true to me. A bear is eating you and you call your mother to say goodbye? "Hey, mom. What's up? Oh, nothing. Just getting eaten by a bear. Oh, you hear him? Sounds gross, right? Wait, hold on a second, mom -- AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! Okay, I'm back, I just needed to scream. Yeah. Yeah, I'm dying. Uh-huh. Right. *laughs* That tickled. No, I'm okay, mom - well, actually, no, I'm not really okay. He's eating my hips right now -- you know how much my hips don't lie. Yeah. Yeah, I love you, too. Okay, I gotta go, mom. No, I can't call you back later, mom -- I'LL BE DEAD. Right. Okay. I love you, too. Find youself some friends and you'll be okay. Alright. Alright, I really gotta go, mom - I'm losing consciousness. Yes, I will. Love you. Bye."

I would think the bears would probably grab your hands or the cell phone and at least make it impossible for you to use your phone and have a conversation. You would have to somehow be unable to move and defend yourself -- they would have to be start eating at your legs. Why not start with the head or the chest/stomach -- things that would make it hard to speak? I can't imagine I'd think of calling my mom if I had all these bears eating at me.

It really seems based off of terrorist stories -- you know, like when you're in a terrorist situation, you call your family and tell them this is the last talk, that you're gonna die and it's over. But here it's with bears. Very, very bizarre.

Yes. This made me laugh. I feel better now.

[Ðèstîñy]

Damn, I wish I would have read this now. Line 2 . . .

Olga Moskalyova, 19, gave an horrific hour-long running commentary on her own death in three separate calls as the wild animals killed her.

OK!

[will.15]

I can't find a legitimate news source for that story unless you consider the Huffington Post one.

[Ronemara]

Okay. I was freaking out. I'm thinking "Holy crap! This is the most depressing story I've ever heard of!" Gah. Gullible is written on the ceiling, right?

[honeykid]

It may be written on the ceiling but, strangely, it isn't in the dictionary.

[Ronemara]

... I don't think I own a dictionary.. And I bet it's in there!! Haha.

[will.15]

Bear up
If a bear is eating you up

[Deadite]

I'm being eaten by a bear right now, actually, will, and I find your jokes very insensitive to my situation.

[Brodinski]

I'm being eaten by a bear right now, actually.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3002/2878889135_eb55c6bff4.jpg

[Deadite]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3002/2878889135_eb55c6bff4.jpg

See if I vote for you in the next mofo tournament!

[sreenathpktr]

Kill Bears
http://www.ralphmag.org/1/bear-hunt410x321.gif

[will.15]

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/8/31/fea10ffb-2de1-432c-b489-a9ad2a4114b1.jpg
(http://www.movieforums.com/community/View/3916822528)

[Deadite]

Ewoks are so cute.:love:

[Sexy Celebrity]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phlpRt3Zedw

[gandalf26]

In the documentary "Grizzly Man" Timothy Treadwell and his girlfriend really were killed and eaten by a Bear in Alaska, and it was caught on tape( Audio only). You don't hear it in the film but people that have listened to it say that it is horrible to listen to and very quick.