MOFO Movie Tournament: Bracket 4

[rauldc14]

Bracket 4
1. The Man with a Movie Camera vs. 16. Amadeus
8. Touch of Evil vs. 9. Heavenly Creatures
5. Out of the Past vs. 12. Heat
4. Mildred Pierce vs. 13. Platoon
6. The French Connection vs. 11. Pulp Fiction
3. Cabaret vs. 14. Midnight Cowboy
7. Persona vs. 10. Fight Club
2. A Boy and His Dog vs. 15. Million Dollar Baby

Voting for this bracket lasts until July 22nd. Enjoy!

[Sexy Celebrity]

Mildred Pierce vs. Platoon

Persona vs. Fight Club

[Harry Lime]

1. The Man with a Movie Camera vs. 16. Amadeus
8. Touch of Evil vs. 9. Heavenly Creatures
5. Out of the Past vs. 12. Heat
4. Mildred Pierce vs. 13. Platoon
6. The French Connection vs. 11. Pulp Fiction
3. Cabaret vs. 14. Midnight Cowboy
7. Persona vs. 10. Fight Club
2. A Boy and His Dog vs. 15. Million Dollar Baby

3. Cabaret vs. 14. Midnight Cowboy

How do you like this one, Mark?

[mark f]

1. The Man with a Movie Camera vs. 16. Amadeus
8. Touch of Evil vs. 9. Heavenly Creatures
5. Out of the Past vs. 12. Heat
4. Mildred Pierce vs. 13. Platoon
6. The French Connection vs. 11. Pulp Fiction
3. Cabaret vs. 14. Midnight Cowboy
7. Persona vs. 10. Fight Club
2. A Boy and His Dog vs. 15. Million Dollar Baby



3. Cabaret vs. 14. Midnight Cowboy

How do you like this one, Mark?

Both the winner and loser are great, so I'll take what happens.

[Deadite]

2. A Boy and His Dog vs. 15. Million Dollar Baby

[rauldc14]

1. The Man with a Movie Camera vs. 16. Amadeus
8. Touch of Evil vs. 9. Heavenly Creatures
5. Out of the Past vs. 12. Heat
4. Mildred Pierce vs. 13. Platoon
6. The French Connection vs. 11. Pulp Fiction
3. Cabaret vs. 14. Midnight Cowboy
7. Persona vs. 10. Fight Club
2. A Boy and His Dog vs. 15. Million Dollar Baby



Both the winner and loser are great, so I'll take what happens.

You probably feel about as slighted as I was with the Sunset Boulevard/Grapes of Wrath matchup. Although I'm not sure Grapes of Wrath has enough followers to get it far regardless of many of these matchups.

Strangely, I've only seen 6 movies so far in total of bracket 4, and I can't vote on any of the matchups. But I've got A Boy and His Dog lined up for a viewing for tomorrow, to start things off. I'd like to see Out of the Past and The French Connection as well.

[wintertriangles]

1. The Man with a Movie Camera vs. 16. Amadeus
8. Touch of Evil vs. 9. Heavenly Creatures
5. Out of the Past vs. 12. Heat
4. Mildred Pierce vs. 13. Platoon
6. The French Connection vs. 11. Pulp Fiction
3. Cabaret vs. 14. Midnight Cowboy
7. Persona vs. 10. Fight Club
2. A Boy and His Dog vs. 15. Million Dollar Baby

[Godoggo]

1. The Man with a Movie Camera vs. 16. Amadeus
8. Touch of Evil vs. 9. Heavenly Creatures
5. Out of the Past vs. 12. Heat
4. Mildred Pierce vs. 13. Platoon
6. The French Connection vs. 11. Pulp Fiction
3. Cabaret vs. 14. Midnight Cowboy -OUCH! That hurts!!!!
7. Persona vs. 10. Fight Club
2. A Boy and His Dog vs. 15. Million Dollar Baby

[MovieMan8877445]

5. Out of the Past vs. 12. Heat
6. The French Connection vs. 11. Pulp Fiction
3. Cabaret vs. 14. Midnight Cowboy
7. Persona vs. 10. Fight Club

[Brodinski]

Mildred Pierce vs. Platoon

Hmm, I smell cheating.

You haven't ticked off Mildred Pierce in your 100 film noirs list even though you've just updated your Cannes' Award winners list. If memory serves, you also nominated Platoon. Did you actually watch Mildred Pierce or is this just a vote for the film you nominated?

[Sexy Celebrity]

You haven't ticked off Mildred Pierce in your 100 film noirs list even though you've just updated your Cannes' Award winners list. If memory serves, you also nominated Platoon. Did you actually watch Mildred Pierce or is this just a vote for the film you nominated?

In fairness, I've seen part of Mildred Pierce (the Joan Crawford one) -- just like Mark F has seen part of Good Burger. I almost stopped myself with this entry because I remember liking what I saw with Mildred Pierce, but I don't think it would have got my vote, anyway.

Now stop investigating me. Bad boy.

[Harry Lime]

In fairness, I've seen part of Mildred Pierce (the Joan Crawford one) -- just like Mark F has seen part of Good Burger. I almost stopped myself with this entry because I remember liking what I saw with Mildred Pierce, but I don't think it would have got my vote, anyway.

Now stop investigating me. Bad boy.

I told you, Mark. Look what you started. The whole thing's gonna come crashing down. People are gonna watch five minutes of a film and then vote.

SC, watch the damn film. It's good and worthy of your time. Don't follow Mark's lead, he's a troublemaker.

Brodinski, great sleuthing.

[Sexy Celebrity]

This whole thing is nightmarish. I haven't seen most of the films in this competition and I'm certainly not in the mood to spend my current movie watching time checking them all out just for this thing. I should have just not bothered with this game.

[Brodinski]

Lighten up, Sexy. At least Ferris Bueller will likely advance to the next round.

Nice to see that there's 3 Michael Curtiz films nominated in this tournament. I'm certain of Angels With Dirty Faces (nominated it myself) and Mildred Pierce, but iirc Casablanca was nominated too.

Anyway, I have to get a hold of Man With The Movie Camera, Mildred Pierce, Persona and A Boy And His Dog. I might not bother with Cabaret and Midnight Cowboy, and they seem like the kind of movies for which you have to be in the right mood to fully appreciate them. And I'm rarely in the mood to watch a musical (not my cup of tea).

[Sexy Celebrity]

I have Midnight Cowboy (on Blu-ray) to watch, but haven't stuck it in and watched it yet. I've seen part of it before - years ago. I have never seen Cabaret, though.

I was disappointed that Fight Club got paired up with Persona, since I believe that's a favorite around here. I picked Fight Club. I thought it had a good chance to win -- I wasn't even real keen on picking it -- didn't it win some other kind of contest around here?

[Loner]

Yeah SC watch the movie!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqdjm3WzJuI

[Sexy Celebrity]

Joan Crawford was quite an actress. Here's some of her best slapping moments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWkq2UOTdO0

[mark f]

Anyway, I have to get a hold of Man With the Movie Camera, Mildred Pierce, Persona and A Boy and His Dog. I might not bother with Cabaret and Midnight Cowboy, and they seem like the kind of movies for which you have to be in the right mood to fully appreciate them. And I'm rarely in the mood to watch a musical (not my cup of tea).

This confuses me. What sort of mood do you have to be in to watch Cabaret and Midnight Cowboy which makes them different from the other four movies? The "I Will Try to Like a mark f Fave Mood"? HA! Maybe some people think they're depressing or too serious, but I find them two of the funniest films ever made. Plus Cabaret is unlike any other musical. It doesn't have anybody sing or dance who isn't working in a 1931 Berlin cabaret, except for probably the best scene in the whole movie which could never be called "someone just bursting into song".

[thracian dawg]

1. The Man with a Movie Camera vs. 16. Amadeus
8. Touch of Evil vs. 9. Heavenly Creatures
5. Out of the Past vs. 12. Heat
4. Mildred Pierce vs. 13. Platoon
6. The French Connection vs. 11. Pulp Fiction
3. Cabaret vs. 14. Midnight Cowboy
7. Persona vs. 10. Fight Club
2. A Boy and His Dog vs. 15. Million Dollar Baby

[stevo3001]

1. The Man with a Movie Camera vs. 16. Amadeus
8. Touch of Evil vs. 9. Heavenly Creatures
5. Out of the Past vs. 12. Heat
4. Mildred Pierce vs. 13. Platoon
6. The French Connection vs. 11. Pulp Fiction
3. Cabaret vs. 14. Midnight Cowboy
7. Persona vs. 10. Fight Club

[ash_is_the_gal]

oh my god i've only seen about half of these. back to the drawing board....

[ash_is_the_gal]

This whole thing is nightmarish. I haven't seen most of the films in this competition and I'm certainly not in the mood to spend my current movie watching time checking them all out just for this thing. I should have just not bothered with this game.

you don't have to vote for every bracket. just vote in the ones that you want to, and only watch the movies you wanted to see, anyway. don't sweat it. :)

i'd recommend watching Mildred Pierce, though (SEEING AS I NOMINATED IT AND ALL). it's a great film!

[Pyro Tramp]

8. Touch of Evil vs. 9. Heavenly Creatures
6. The French Connection vs. 11. Pulp Fiction
3. Cabaret vs. 14. Midnight Cowboy
7. Persona vs. 10. Fight Club

[honeykid]

8. Touch of Evil vs. 9. Heavenly Creatures
4. Mildred Pierce vs. 13. Platoon
6. The French Connection vs. 11. Pulp Fiction

[ash_is_the_gal]

it depresses me a little knowing that several people probably have/are cheating in these brackets just to vote for their movies. especially when i've been putting all this effort in to watch all these films and give careful consideration before voting. hrmph.

if i may suggest, from now on i don't think there should be any exceptions made for anyone. either watch the film in its entirety or your vote doesn't count.

thank you,

management :)

[Godoggo]

I would have voted for The Midnight Cowboy against any movie on any of the brackets so far except Cabaret. It figures they would be paired together.

[Sexy Celebrity]

You picked Mildred Pierce, Ash? Oh noz. That's against my Platoon.

[wintertriangles]

I'm pretty ok voting against anything Sexy nominated just because he cares about it so much

[Deadite]

it depresses me a little knowing that several people probably have/are cheating in these brackets just to vote for their movies. especially when i've been putting all this effort in to watch all these films and give careful consideration before voting. hrmph.

if i may suggest, from now on i don't think there should be any exceptions made for anyone. either watch the film in its entirety or your vote doesn't count.

thank you,

management :)

What if I'm, say about 30-45 minutes into and it sucks ass?

[Deadite]

6. The French Connection vs. 11. Pulp Fiction

[Sexy Celebrity]

I'm pretty ok voting against anything Sexy nominated just because he cares about it so much

Someone has to care. Someone has to love.

[ash_is_the_gal]

You picked Mildred Pierce, Ash? Oh noz. That's against my Platoon.

i know. they are testing us.

[Pyro Tramp]

it depresses me a little knowing that several people probably have/are cheating in these brackets just to vote for their movies. especially when i've been putting all this effort in to watch all these films and give careful consideration before voting. hrmph.

if i may suggest, from now on i don't think there should be any exceptions made for anyone. either watch the film in its entirety or your vote doesn't count.

thank you,

management :)

I cheated on the Cabaret one as, even though not seen it in it's entirety, i'm very narrow minded and doubt it would be beat one my top50 films :) although, Mildred Pierce is now planned as my next purchase/watch :)

[ash_is_the_gal]

I'm pretty ok voting against anything Sexy nominated just because he cares about it so much

after all the over analysis of a happy-go-lucky John Hughes film, i'm not sure i believe that you vote nonchalantly, either.

[ash_is_the_gal]

What if I'm, say about 30-45 minutes into and it sucks ass?

it's just hard to make exceptions, don't you think?

besides, to be perfectly fair, i'd say all the films in this tournament deserve to be watched, even if you didn't like them or find them displeasing.

[Deadite]

it's just hard to make exceptions, don't you think?

It gets easier the more you do it. :p

[ash_is_the_gal]

:p

c'monnnn! aren't you having fun watching all these 'classic' movies you hadn't gotten around to seeing? i know i am.

[ash_is_the_gal]

I cheated on the Cabaret one as, even though not seen it in it's entirety, i'm very narrow minded and doubt it would be beat one my top50 films :) although, Mildred Pierce is now planned as my next purchase/watch :)

DISQUALIFIED (reason: narrow-mindedness)

[Nausicaä]

8. Touch of Evil vs. 9. Heavenly Creatures
5. Out of the Past vs. 12. Heat
4. Mildred Pierce vs. 13. Platoon
6. The French Connection vs. 11. Pulp Fiction
3. Cabaret vs. 14. Midnight Cowboy
7. Persona vs. 10. Fight Club

[Deadite]

:p

c'monnnn! aren't you having fun watching all these 'classic' movies you hadn't gotten around to seeing? i know i am.

I am. :) I just don't usually let reality get in the way of a quip. :D

[Sexy Celebrity]

Yeah, see, I don't see what's so terrible about choosing your favorite over a movie you haven't seen. If you haven't seen it, well, maybe you haven't seen it yet for a reason. As in, maybe it hasn't called to you. Maybe it's not the right time to see it. I watch movies to experience... not just take everything in like a robot and its database. I'm sorry, but for me, if I'm not in the mood for a certain movie and it feels like it's not the right time for it, it's just database material and it might mean nothing to me.

For example, I saw Donnie Darko when it first came out and I HATED it. Still don't believe it's one of the best, but Jake Gyllenhaal did NOTHING for me, then. It wasn't the right time.

[ash_is_the_gal]

Sexy, you and i have both only seen a small amount of movies compared to a lot of people here. not because those movies didn't "call" to us, but other movies appealed to us, and we probably don't spend enough time watching movies as some.

you simply can't vote just because you love one film and the looks of the other one doesn't call to you. it's not only ridiculous, but it's pretty insulting to those who have seen all these films and have been thoughtfully voting all along.

if you love a film as much as you say you do, then you should be happy to watch its opponent.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I understand. But I feel like... it's only one vote. I guess one vote can make a lot of difference, but... but... oh, curses.

[ash_is_the_gal]

i had to watch The Best Years of Our Lives for this tournament, and i ended up voting on it over One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. that shocked me, but i'm so glad i took the time to watch it.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I should watch that one, too. I didn't think One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest was all that great when I saw it. I mean, it was good, but it wasn't mind-blowing.

But I think bowed out of that bracket because One Flew had like, 20,000 votes, and Best Years had 0 -- now 1, thanks to you. It just felt like... why bother?

[Deadite]

Fight the system, sexy!

http://www.bestgeekblogever.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/wild-one-brando.jpg

[Pyro Tramp]

I think you're both right. I feel I watch a lot of films for the sake of having watched them, but then I am often surprised by them. It's hard to watch one of those films, as you'll be watching it just to say you've seen it and not necessarily to enjoy it.

[Sexy Celebrity]

It's hard to watch one of those films, as you'll be watching it just to say you've seen it and not necessarily to enjoy it.

I know and it makes me disgruntled. I'm sorry, but I haven't watched every Jake Gyllenhaal movie enough times yet. We'll get to Cabaret and Les Diabolique and The Best Years of Our Lives when we get there!

[ash_is_the_gal]

you don't have to watch them if you don't want to. but don't vote, either. stop trying to have your cake and eat it, too, Mister!

[Deadite]

I don't see the point in rewatching a movie I've already seen recently if there's a movie I haven't seen that might be good too. I want to see new stuff, and even though I like a movie I usually prefer to let it alone for a time and come back to it later.

[Pyro Tramp]

By the time I come to put on a DVD, I put something on to match my mood. If i'm in the mood for something I haven't seen before, then ok but normally I can't determine whether an unseen film would match the mood i'm in. Hence I have about 50+ DVDs i've never seen before because rarely in the mood to watch Kagemusha or Amacord

[Sexy Celebrity]

By the time I come to put on a DVD, I put something on to match my mood. If i'm in the mood for something I haven't seen before, then ok but normally I can't determine whether an unseen film would match the mood i'm in. Hence I have about 50+ DVDs i've never seen before because rarely in the mood to watch Kagemusha or Amacord

I am the same way.

[Deadite]

Here's the thing though, and I'm sort of agreeing with sexy, though I'm also going off-topic a bit: Life is too short to force yourself to sit through some movie you hate. There are too many other movies that I want to see to waste my time with that nonsense.

Now, if a movie gets dull in spots, or is just so-so, I generally stick with it. Okay? I'm not some child who need explosions or gore every five minutes. I love many mature and subtle films. I've seen some movies that didn't do much for me but ended up, overall, as a like.

But I'll only put up with so much before I quit. If a movie truly annoys me or is tedious, I'm not going to sit there just so I can mark it off some imaginary checklist. The way I look at it is this: If I watch two movies in a bracket, and I absolutely can't sit through one and can sit through the other, well then, guess which one I'm gonna vote for?

Obviously when I give it a fair chance and still don't like it, then as far as I'm concerned, it sucks. Sure, maybe you love it. But we're not really voting objectively here. That's horseshit. I'll give a movie a chance even if it's not my usual cup of tea. But I'm not going to force myself to watch every minute just to please someone else who likes it.

Either you're voting for your favorite or you're voting for someone else's. If I didn't like it enough to want to see it all, then I seriously doubt any number of viewings can change that.

So don't expect me to torture myself with something I hate, even if you love it. I just don't believe you can watch a movie for the majority of its run-time and hate it, and then suddenly change your mind in the third act. That's never happened in my life.

[ash_is_the_gal]

yeah, but have you hated a lot of the films you started in this tournament? :skeptical:

[Deadite]

yeah, but have you hated a lot of the films you started in this tournament? :skeptical:

No no no, I think most of the entries so far are very good or at least decent. I'm just saying how I feel in general. Besides, I have seen lots of movies, ash, long before I ever became a member here. I'm a huge movie addict. :)

[ash_is_the_gal]

oh okay. it's all good in the hood, then. :)

[Deadite]

phew :p

[Sexy Celebrity]

No no no, I think most of the entries so far are very good or at least decent. I'm just saying how I feel in general. Besides, I have seen lots of movies, ash, long before I ever became a member here. I'm a huge movie addict. :)

I don't really know what movies you're into, really. Tell me some titles. If you've said somewhere -- well, I didn't look.

Also, I think there can be movies that are good up until the third act. I've seen movies like that and I've disowned them for having a bad third act. I've seen movies that have boring first and second acts and then win me in the end. It all depends on the balance and how everything mixes together. I've shut off things after only a half hour, too.

[ash_is_the_gal]

i've shut off a movie before... but then i have to have someone lock away all the sharp objects in the house into a safe drawer so i don't try to kill myself from the shame.

it happens. :modest:

[Thursday Next]

1. The Man with a Movie Camera vs. 16. Amadeus
8. Touch of Evil vs. 9. Heavenly Creatures
5. Out of the Past vs. 12. Heat
4. Mildred Pierce vs. 13. Platoon
6. The French Connection vs. 11. Pulp Fiction
3. Cabaret vs. 14. Midnight Cowboy
7. Persona vs. 10. Fight Club
2. A Boy and His Dog vs. 15. Million Dollar Baby

[Deadite]

I don't really know what movies you're into, really. Tell me some titles. If you've said somewhere -- well, I didn't look.

Also, I think there can be movies that are good up until the third act. I've seen movies like that and I've disowned them for having a bad third act. I've seen movies that have boring first and second acts and then win me in the end. It all depends on the balance and how everything mixes together. I've shut off things after only a half hour, too.

Okay sexy, you asked for it. :p

Well, it will take me some time to sort my thoughts....

I'll try to not mention stuff I've talked about elsewhere, if I can. So don't freak if I leave out stuff.

First, let me say, I love movies. Just movies, period. I love watching movies, I love the very idea of movies. So I'm always partial, more generous and open than maybe the average person. It's very hard for me to be as specific as you probably want.

I have my personal preferences, of course. They are not set in stone, though. Sometimes my mood says one type of movie, sometimes another. Mainly I just want to see something well-made with an interesting story and good acting. That's all. :D

I have a particular affection for horror/fantasy/sci-fi. That's just me. But I also love many, many others. I have broad tastes. Sling Blade is one of my favorite movies ever. Hotel Rwanda was a great film. The Grumpy Old Men movies. The Conversation was a superb movie. Marathon Man was cool.

What else? 21 Grams and Babel. The Talented Mr. Ripley. I liked Ripley's Game even more. As Good As It Gets. I always like seeing Jack Nicholson do his thing. Fried Green Tomatoes is a good movie. I like Kathy Bates. About Schmidt. Boys Don't Cry is a movie I really like. Trainspotting is another top favorite. Shine is too. I also highly recommend Perfume. It was amazing. Harold and Maude. Great movie. Ghost Dog.

Land of the Blind. Dancer in the Dark. The Pianist. The Color Purple. Beloved. Cool Hand Luke. Man on the Moon. Broken Vessels. Deceiver. Joe Versus the Volcano. Copycat. Michael. Of Mice and Men (remake). The Minus Man. Kinsey. Jerry Maguire. The Sweet Hereafter. Eve's Bayou. In the Company of Men.

I'm not especially interested in western and war movies, but I love Saving Private Ryan and Tombstone, as well as other films from those genres. Platoon is fantastic. McCabe & Mrs. Miller. Das Boot was excellent. Casualties of War. The Thin Red Line. The Assassination of Jesse James.

I really dug Revolutionary Road. Thought it was a great drama. What's Eating Gilbert Grape is one of my favorite movies too. If you like Night of the Hunter, I recommend Undertow. It's very much like it.

The Aviator was fantastic. I've seen most of Scorcese's stuff. He's great. I also like Woody Allen. Match Point. Crimes and Misdemeanors. Pretty much all his movies, I dig. Sweet & Lowdown. Annie Hall. Sleeper.

Hitchcock. Rear Window. The Birds. Strangers on a Train. Tarantino. I like his movies. The Coen Bros. Barton Fink, ect. Lynch. You know that.

I have seen lots of movies, man. I'm forgetting lots of titles, I'm sure.

I have never disowned a movie if I liked most of it. I'm willing to accept a movie that goes against what I expect/think it should be in the end. I think I'm intelligent enough to recognize when a movie is leading to something, when it has a slow build. I can be patient. We all have our bad days though, so maybe I misjudged a few. Hey, I don't claim to be perfect. :)

And I've never ended up liking a movie that I hated throughout most of it, as far as I remember... I'm not talking about so-so movies. I'm forgiving of movies that aren't very good. It takes a lot for me to really hate a movie. So if I hate it, I really hate it.

Maybe that's just me.

These were all movies I would rate 4 or 5 stars out of 5. I purposely tried to avoid listing horror/fantasy/sci-fi because I don't want to crash the internet. :D

Like I said, film nut.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Out of those movies, I like: About Schmidt, As Good As It Gets, I remember liking the Grumpy Old Men movies but it's been about 15 years since I saw them, Babel, Harold and Maude, The Pianist, The Color Purple, Cool Hand Luke, MAN ON THE MOON -- I used to really love this, Copycat, Kinsey, Jerry Maguire (but it's been years), Eve's Bayou (but it's been years, too), Saving Private Ryan, Platoon, Revolutionary Road, What's Eating Gilbert Grape, Das Boot (I swear, you must be looking at my Top 100 thread), The Aviator, Tarantino movies -- but I do not like Lynch. Barton Fink was good, I saw that about 6 years ago. I have the Of Mice and Men movie now - the one with Gary Sinise and John Malkovich -- it's on my list of movies to watch.

[Deadite]

I do tend to be more forgiving of a movie if it has at least one thing going for it that I am partial to, such as an actor I'm fond of, or a specific directorial style, or just an off-the-wall story. It's not so easy for me to pinpoint just what I'll like or dislike. But usually I'll knock my rating down a bit in those cases.

When I personally rate movies, I mostly rate within genres and subgenres. For example, I'm not usually going to rate an Evil Dead 2 with a King Kong in mind, or an Exorcist against a Forrest Gump. That's not fair, in my opinion. Of course, in this case, that's exactly what we're expected to do. And yes, the movies are unfairly and arbitrarily put up against each other.

But as I said in the beginning, I don't see this as definitive. Only as an interesting thought experiment, contrasting movies I ordinarily wouldn't and maybe seeing them both in new ways.

That's worth the minor annoyance of having to make hard choices between movies I really like. Plus it promotes interesting debate, and I get to beat up on people who pick A History of Violence over Ferris Bueller. :D

[mark f]

Like I said, film nut.

Well then, why don't you fill out all your Movie Lists in your profile so we can all see what you have and haven't seen? :cool:

[planet news]

Hehe... that was one of the first things you said to me on here. You even used that same emoticon. By the way, I ought to do that now.

[Deadite]

Well then, why don't you fill out all your Movie Lists in your profile so we can all see what you have and haven't seen? :cool:

Because. :bored:

[mark f]

WARNING - Do not visualize the next sentence.

Trust me, I don't consider it a pissing contest because I'm old and you guys can piss a lot further than I can. It just makes discussions more interesting and helps out in some of the threads if we know what you have and haven't seen.

[Deadite]

If you think you can get me to write anything I don't want to or fill out some anal list just so you can feel all superior watching me put the lotion in the basket, then you're just pissin into the wind, my friend. :)

[Sexy Celebrity]

You know, I judged a pissing contest one time. But only once. I wasn't asked to do it again because I didn't even notice the guys were pissing.

[Deadite]

I always win pissing contests.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwlTqU1Lw3Y

[mark f]

If you think you can get me to write anything I don't want to or fill out some anal list just so you can feel all superior watching me put the lotion in the basket, then you're just pissin into the wind, my friend. :)

Now you're gettin' all Buffalo Bill/Silence of the Lambs creepy on me.

Yeah, he should have been Buffalo Bob.

[Deadite]

Now you're gettin' all Buffalo Bob/Silence of the Lambs creepy on me.

Er, Bob? :nope:

They call me Bill. :drevil:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrA2k1zasm8

[rauldc14]

2. A Boy and His Dog vs. 15. Million Dollar Baby

It's not even close in my opinion. Though I did enjoy A Boy and His Dog at least halfway through the movie (I'd have given it an 8/10 half way through) it's weird and whacky second half ends up giving it an overall 3 or 4/10 for me. Which is kind of sad really. Not sure how it has actually garnered votes thus far, but I'd be guessing it's due to all the hate for Million Dollar Baby, which is an amazing film to me.

[Deadite]

Yeah, he should have been Buffalo Bob.

http://hotsauceandsalsa.com/images/categories/Buffalo-Bobs-Color-Logo.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPPLQD98xLg

:licklips:

[Harry Lime]

I don't think Deadite's seen anything. Maybe Lambs a few hundred times, but that's it.

[ash_is_the_gal]

i remember seriously disliking Million Dollar Baby when i saw it a few years back, so now i'm wondering what A Boy and His Dog will be like, seeing as it's taking a harsh beating in this tournament and all.

[Deadite]

I don't think Deadite's seen anything. Maybe Lambs a few hundred times, but that's it.

Less than a hundred, I assure you.

[rauldc14]

Million Dollar Baby can't be too far ahead vote-wise. Which is a bit of a joke to me.

[HollyG]

6. The French Connectionvs. 11. Pulp Fiction

[DexterRiley]

Bracket 4
1. The Man with a Movie Camera vs. 16. Amadeus
8. Touch of Evil vs. 9. Heavenly Creatures
5. Out of the Past vs. 12. Heat
4. Mildred Pierce vs. 13. Platoon
6. The French Connection vs. 11. Pulp Fiction
3. Cabaret vs. 14. Midnight Cowboy
7. Persona vs. 10. Fight Club
2. A Boy and His Dog vs. 15. Million Dollar Baby

[Harry Lime]

Bracket 4
1. The Man with a Movie Camera vs. 16. Amadeus
8. Touch of Evil vs. 9. Heavenly Creatures
5. Out of the Past vs. 12. Heat
4. Mildred Pierce vs. 13. Platoon
6. The French Connection vs. 11. Pulp Fiction
3. Cabaret vs. 14. Midnight Cowboy
7. Persona vs. 10. Fight Club
2. A Boy and His Dog vs. 15. Million Dollar Baby

Dude, you know you're not supposed to vote on a match unless you've seen both films, right? And if you have seen all the films in this bracket, update your dang "Movie Lists".

[rauldc14]

Yeah, I don't know how many times I have to emphasize the "only vote if you've seen both rule". To me, it's pretty damn simple really.

[Pyro Tramp]

Haha, I thought about cheating but the Movie Lists a pretty big give away.

[stevo3001]

2. A Boy and His Dog vs. 15. Million Dollar Baby

[Deadite]

8. Touch of Evil vs. 9. Heavenly Creatures

3. Cabaret vs. 14. Midnight Cowboy

7. Persona vs. 10. Fight Club

[bobdanger]

6. The French Connection vs. 11. Pulp Fiction

Wow, this is a tougher bracket. Have seen a good number, but can't remember them well enough to vote properly. This one was a tough call though. Ask me tomorrow and my choice might be different.

[ash_is_the_gal]

8. Touch of Evil vs. 9. Heavenly Creatures

[honeykid]

That one was a tough call for me. On another day, I may well've gone with Heavenly Creatures.

[ash_is_the_gal]

you should have, you jerk.

[honeykid]

But on the day, I prefered Touch of Evil. Today, I might go with HC, but tomorrow? Who knows?

[ash_is_the_gal]

yeah but i nominated it. i thought we were friends. :(

[igor_is_fugly]

7. Persona vs. 10. Fight Club
2. A Boy and His Dog vs. 15. Million Dollar Baby

[honeykid]

yeah but i nominated it. i thought we were friends. :(
lol... We are. I think you're starting to take this "SC seriously". :laugh: Hell, I voted for Chinatown and it's against a film I nominated.

[ash_is_the_gal]

i'm just trying to make you feel bad. did it work? i can think of other ways if not.

[Tyler1]

6. The French Connection vs. 11. Pulp Fiction

I really want to vote Persona and i know i will still vote for Persona after ive seen Fight Club, but im not going to because i dont want to spend my time watching Fight Club. :mad:

[planet news]

The Man with a Movie Camera vs. Amadeus
The French Connection vs. Pulp Fiction
Persona vs. Fight Club

Fight Club is really well made, really enjoyable, and definitely worth a watch, but it is political, and it's politics feel wrong to me. And for as much of a Hollywood production Amadeus is, I still find a large part of my relation with Mozart's music visually and emotionally guided by this film. It has to be one of the most detailed period films I have ever seen.

[ash_is_the_gal]

someone sure was busy!

[Swan]

8. Touch of Evil vs. 9. Heavenly Creatures
6. The French Connection vs. 11. Pulp Fiction
3. Cabaret vs. 14. Midnight Cowboy

[ash_is_the_gal]

Persona vs. 10. Fight Club

it was very interesting that these two got paired up together. man, Persona sure was a mind ****. i probably won't be able to sleep now.

[Tyler1]

Persona is cinema at its most primal, most uncompromising form. The speaker and the listener. Are humans really so sinful that we have to remain silent for fear of telling lies? In cinema, there is Persona, and there is everything else. :)

[ash_is_the_gal]

6. The French Connection vs. 11. Pulp Fiction

[linespalsy]

Bracket 4
1. The Man with a Movie Camera vs. 16. Amadeus
8. Touch of Evil vs. 9. Heavenly Creatures
5. Out of the Past vs. 12. Heat
4. Mildred Pierce vs. 13. Platoon
6. The French Connection vs. 11. Pulp Fiction
3. Cabaret vs. 14. Midnight Cowboy
7. Persona vs. 10. Fight Club
2. A Boy and His Dog vs. 15. Million Dollar Baby

[Tyler1]

5. Out of the Past vs. 12. Heat
7. Persona vs. 10. Fight Club


Ok.. so i finally get to watch Fight Club. Needless to say, i'm voting for Persona.

[HollyG]

7.Persona vs. 10. Fight Club

[rauldc14]

Updated Scoring Update for bracket 4:

1. Man with a Movie Camera 4
16. Amadeus 5

8. Touch of Evil 8
9. Heavenly Creatures 6

5. Out of the Past 5
12. Heat 5

4. Mildred Pierce 4
13. Platoon 5

3. French Connection 6
14. Pulp Fiction 15

6. Cabaret 5
11. Midnight Cowboy 8

7. Persona 10
10. Fight Club 6

2. A Boy and His Dog 4
15. Million Dollar Baby 5

[Sexy Celebrity]

Someone save the Club.

http://stephaniebowman.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/fight-club.jpg

[ash_is_the_gal]

our movies are almost even steven, SC!

[rauldc14]

Close, close battles here. Things should get interesting.

[Sexy Celebrity]

our movies are almost even steven, SC!

Which one is yours?

[ash_is_the_gal]

Mildred Pierce. the one against your Platoon.

[voneil7]

8. Touch of Evil vs. 9. Heavenly Creatures
4. Mildred Pierce vs. 13. Platoon
6. The French Connection vs. 11. Pulp Fiction
3. Cabaret vs. 14. Midnight Cowboy
7. Persona vs. 10. Fight Club

[ash_is_the_gal]

seriously, every film i've nominated lost / is losing. i'm calling gender discrimination, since i obviously have wonderful taste in films.

[honeykid]

Really? "Wonderful"? I love ya, but I beg to differ.

TBF, I think your picks have been quite unlucky, at least, the ones that I know are yours.

[ash_is_the_gal]

honeykid, since when does your taste matter?

[ash_is_the_gal]

honeykid, since when does your taste matter?

oh god, i crack myself up.

anyway, everyone thinks their own taste is wonderful.

[honeykid]

honeykid, since when does your taste matter?
To me? For as long as I can remember. To anyone else? Never.


anyway, everyone thinks their own taste is wonderful.
I don't.

[ash_is_the_gal]

yeah, but we both know what a weirdo you are.

[honeykid]

I have to agree with you there. :D Obviously I don't think so, but there's overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

[ash_is_the_gal]

you know i kid cause i love.

anyway, i don't really think my taste is wonderful, but i honestly don't think it's terrible. regardless of that, i think i chose some good **** for this tournament.

:(

[planet news]

anyway, everyone thinks their own taste is wonderful.Not true. There is such a thing as realizing that one's own taste is primitive and expanding henceforth. There is such a moment of realization of "what have I been missing" or "how could I have been so blind?" Believe it, sister.

[Sexy Celebrity]

My Fight Club needs help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rauldc14]

I haven't seen Persona, but if I have to I will (didn't like Fight Club all that much)

[Sexy Celebrity]

There was no rule in Fight Club that you do not vote for Fight Club.

[rauldc14]

And seriously, Million Dollar Baby needs more votes as well

[DexterRiley]

Bracket 4



6. The French Connection vs. 11. Pulp Fiction
3. Cabaret vs. 14. Midnight Cowboy

2. A Boy and His Dog vs. 15. Million Dollar Baby

[Saully]

6. The French Connection vs. 11. Pulp Fiction
7. Persona vs. 10. Fight Club

[Brodinski]

8. Touch of Evil vs. 9. Heavenly Creatures
5. Out of the Past vs. 12. Heat
4. Mildred Pierce vs. 13. Platoon
6. The French Connection vs. 11. Pulp Fiction
7. Persona vs. 10. Fight Club

[ash_is_the_gal]

My Fight Club needs help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

have you seen Persona?

[Godoggo]

1. The Man with a Movie Camera vs. 16. Amadeus

[HollyG]

8.Touch of Evil. 9. Heavenly Creatures

I just watched Heavenly Creatures and who ever nominated it I gotta say thanks,I absolutely loved this film.

[ash_is_the_gal]

I just watched Heavenly Creatures and who ever nominated it I gotta say thanks,I absolutely loved this film.

me!!!!! you're welcome!!

[rauldc14]

I would really like to see Out of the Past. I think that would be a tough call vs. Heat

[rauldc14]

Update, with 3ish days left:

1. Man with a Movie Camera 4
16. Amadeus 6

8. Touch of Evil 10
9. Heavenly Creatures 7

5. Out of the Past 6
12. Heat 5

4. Mildred Pierce 4
13. Platoon 7

6. The French Connection 7
11. Pulp Fiction 18

3. Cabaret 5
14. Midnight Cowboy 10

7. Persona 11
10. Fight Club 8

2. A Boy and His Dog 4
15. Million Dollar Baby 6

[honeykid]

Surprised Heat isn't leading. Sadly, I'm not surprised MDB is.

[rauldc14]

I'm surprised Fight Club is losing, not to mention, if I have to give Persona a vote (if it comes close) it may have even more cushion.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I'm surprised Fight Club is losing, not to mention, if I have to give Persona a vote (if it comes close) it may have even more cushion.

Come on people, Bring IT On...

Vote Fight Club!

[ash_is_the_gal]

i don't understand the point in highlighting the movies in big red letters like they're advertisements. the movies should be getting votes based on which one each Mofo thinks is worthy.

[Deadite]

He's just showing support for his faves, ash...

[Sexy Celebrity]

I'm a politician. I once won the coveted role of President for my Student Government in school. I had to make my own posters and sell myself. I know how to get it done.

[ash_is_the_gal]

yeah, but it does kind of push the wrong idea into the tournament. i don't want to tell people how to vote any more than i want to be told how to vote.

[Deadite]

:laugh:

[ash_is_the_gal]

actually supporting movies you love would be putting time into writing up a thoughtful post as to why you love it so much/what it means to you vs. the other film. just writing 'VOTE THIS MOVIE' is just... meh.

[Deadite]

yeah, but it does kind of push the wrong idea into the tournament. i don't want to tell people how to vote any more than i want to be told how to vote.

Are you suggesting some people here are that weak-minded? Care to name names?

[Sexy Celebrity]

It's not about telling them how to vote... it's... affecting them in ways that'll get them to vote for what I want them to vote for.

It worked for Ferris!

[ash_is_the_gal]

how do you know Ferris wouldn't have won anyway? i think it would have.

Are you suggesting some people here are that weak-minded? Care to name names?

yup. and nope.

[Deadite]

actually supporting movies you love would be putting time into writing up a thoughtful post as to why you love it so much/what it means to you vs. the other film. just writing 'VOTE THIS MOVIE' is just... meh.

You're kind of being a beyotch about it, don't you think?

[Sexy Celebrity]

actually supporting movies you love would be putting time into writing up a thoughtful post as to why you love it so much/what it means to you vs. the other film. just writing 'VOTE THIS MOVIE' is just... meh.

Oh, I dunno. Planet News wrote up that long post trying to get people to vote for A History of Violence -- he wrote down all of these reasons and everything. Meanwhile, all I did was post videos from the film.

Look who won.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_3VTxWvJBiic/Sn5zUP0oTOI/AAAAAAAACaY/f6bTZ8pGpz4/s400/context_00001_ferris_buellers_day_off.jpg

[ash_is_the_gal]

You're kind of being a beyotch about it, don't you think?

why?

[Deadite]

It's not about telling them how to vote... it's... affecting them in ways that'll get them to vote for what I want them to vote for.

It worked for Ferris!

Are you trying to subliminally influence us?:suspicious:

[ash_is_the_gal]

Oh, I dunno. Planet News wrote up that long post trying to get people to vote for A History of Violence -- he wrote down all of these reasons and everything. Meanwhile, all I did was post videos from the film.

Look who won.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_3VTxWvJBiic/Sn5zUP0oTOI/AAAAAAAACaY/f6bTZ8pGpz4/s400/context_00001_ferris_buellers_day_off.jpg

yeah, but i don't think he wrote up that post because he was hoping people would vote for it. not everyone is doing it for that reason. really. if i were to write up a little review, i wouldn't be doing it for that reason, anyway.

[Deadite]

why?

Never mind. :nope:

[Sexy Celebrity]

Are you trying to subliminally influence us?:suspicious:

Whatever works. :)

http://i56.tinypic.com/2h2f3n7.jpg

[Deadite]

Ash, maybe we don't have to do a detailed analysis every time a movie title is mentioned. We could just, you know, have some fun.

[Sexy Celebrity]

yeah, but i don't think he wrote up that post because he was hoping people would vote for it.

Ohhhhhhhh, yes he did.

[ash_is_the_gal]

i don't even care if he did. maybe he did, i have no clue. i don't care, though. it's not even like i agreed with his opinion, but i still think it was an "interesting" take. mind you, he did it for every movie in that bracket, even ones that were already winning and didn't really need support. so i don't really think it was his sole purpose. anyway, that's not really the point. i can at least appreciate someone trying to "show me their support" by giving some kind of explanation about why one movie is more "meaningful" than another. have you actually seen Persona? if not, are you gonna? and more importantly, why do you think Fight Club should win?

[Deadite]

Whatever works. :)

http://i56.tinypic.com/2h2f3n7.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-zCzObR6d4

[ash_is_the_gal]

Ash, maybe we don't have to do a detailed analysis every time a movie title is mentioned. We could just, you know, have some fun.

it can be fun to actually, you know, discuss the movies, too. seeing as this is a movie discussion forum.

[Sexy Celebrity]

have you actually seen Persona? if not, are you gonna?

I have seen it. I respect it, even. I don't remember it very well. I remember I was bored. I remember two women talking and at one point she was in the hospital, etc. etc.

and more importantly, why do you think Fight Club should win?

It's beloved. It has a movie character lots of people respond to - Tyler Durden.

http://www.empireonline.com/images/features/100greatestcharacters/photos/1.jpg

It gives you things to think about while you're taking a shower.....

[ash_is_the_gal]

:laugh:

[Deadite]

it can be fun to actually, you know, discuss the movies, too. seeing as this is a movie discussion forum.

I've discussed movies plenty at this site. What do you want, an essay?

[ash_is_the_gal]

i don't want anything from you. :)

[Sexy Celebrity]

I've discussed movies plenty at this site. What do you want, an essay?

http://i54.tinypic.com/2vbokgm.jpg

Due on Thursday!

[Deadite]

I'm curious to know the reasoning behind your vote now, ash. Why don't you explain it to us, how you critique the films individually and comparatively?

[Deadite]

http://i54.tinypic.com/2vbokgm.jpg

Due on Thursday!

O M G

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/bawanaal/YouTube-ASceneFromTroll2.jpg

[Deadite]

Still haven't gotten your "thoughtful post as to why you love it so much/what it means to you vs. the other film" yet, ash.

[ash_is_the_gal]

1. The Man with a Movie Camera vs. 16. Amadeus

[honeykid]

TBF, ash was saying she prefered that to 'just' having a "VOTE...." she wasn't saying she was going to do it.

Besides, we all know SC. We knew he'd take his choices winning/losing waaay too seriously. It's part of the joy of SC. :)

[Deadite]

To be really fair, though, after she made such a deal out of it, she should.

[HollyG]

2.A Boy and His Dog vs. 15. Million Dollar Baby

[rauldc14]

2 days left of voting here.

[ash_is_the_gal]

does voting end tonight?

[rauldc14]

indeed it does

[ash_is_the_gal]

Noooooo

I need an extra day.

[rauldc14]

what ones did you have left, anyway?

[ash_is_the_gal]

Mildred Pierce vs. Platoon

[ash_is_the_gal]

what ones did you have left, anyway?

just A Boy and His Dog / Million Dollar Baby. i don't think i'll get a chance to watch it, though, because i'm going to see HP tonight, and some other stuff.

[honeykid]

I thought you put Mildred Pierce forward, ash. Had you not seen Platoon?

[ash_is_the_gal]

I had not! I downloaded it the other night.

[ash_is_the_gal]

And yeah i nominated MP. Yet another one that is losing.

Vote Mildred Pierce, etc.

[Psychic Isaac]

Mildred Pierce vs. Platoon

http://www.thefeministwire.com/content/2011/05/joan-crawford-mildred-pierce.jpg

I love Joan Crawford. She sends me ghostly text messages from time to time. Really obscene ones. And she still hates wire hangers.

[mark f]

HA! Look who the "Cat" dragged in, right on cue!

[rauldc14]

1. Man with a Movie Camera 4
16. Amadeus 7

8. Touch of Evil 10
9. Heavenly Creatures 7

5. Out of the Past 6
12. Heat 5

4. Mildred Pierce 6
13. Platoon 7

6. The French Connection 7
11. Pulp Fiction 18

3. Cabaret 5
14. Midnight Cowboy 10

7. Persona 11
10. Fight Club 8

2. A Boy and His Dog 5
15. Million Dollar Baby 6

Interestingly enough, either a lot of people didn't see these movies or didn't vote. Lots of close calls and low scores but it is what it is. The bold will move onto round 2.

[Saully]

Fight Club :(

[Sexy Celebrity]

Fight Club :(

I'm with ya. :(:(:(

[stevo3001]

Million Dollar Baby :(

[rauldc14]

Million Dollar Baby :)