Tyler: Part III

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The one thing that my favourites list always have in common other than the similar choices, is that I'm never fully satisfied with them. My main goal with this new list is to be satisfied with it enough, so I don't have to make another favourites list anywhere in the near future.

This will be comprised of key films that I love and respect, ones that simply entertain, ones of superb quality and ones that hold a special place in my heart. So sit back and enjoy the countdown of Tyler: Part III.

P.S Sorry if I'm stealing any other MoFo list's thunder.

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60. X-Men The Last Stand

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This one of the films that simply entertains, with fascinating ideas and strong performances. Not a monumental superhero film, but a massively entertaining movie.

59. 2001: A Space Odyssey

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A visual masterpiece, I used to consider this to be Kubrick's finest film. Of course, it isn't anymore, but there still is a lot to love about 2001. Absolutely stunning.

58. Kill Bill

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This is generally considered to be QT's most violent, action infused film to date. And why not? A fine performance from Uma Thurman, entertaining dialogue and explosive action make this more than worthwhile.

57. Batman Begins

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Thanks to Christopher Nolan's direction, brilliant visuals and a solid lead performance from Christian Bale, Batman is finally back into the role of the lead character.

56. Akira

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The best Anime film I've ever seen, and I'm not a big fan of the genre.

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55. The Thin Red Line

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A haunting, hypnotic war film, full of stunning photography and music, with fine actors delivering strong performances. But ultimately, it's the man at the helm who makes this what it is.


54. Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace

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Not a disappointment in my eyes, but rather a fun piece of entertainment that recalls the type of storytelling conveyed in the original Star Wars. Liam Neeson does a solid job in the lead role, and the final lightsaber battle is spectacular.


53. Full Metal Jacket

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Kubrick's third best film to date, with a very funny opening 40 minutes that descends into a dramtic finale. Scathing humour and excellent writing are highlights.


52. American Psycho

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What could be considered one of the greatest black comedies ever committed to film. Mary Harron's direction and the sharp screenplay are both solid in their own right, but it's Christian Bale's magnificent lead performance as the superficial Patrick Bateman that resonates.


51. JFK

http://www.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/7/A70-3831

Conspiracy thrillers don't get much better than this, with Kevin Costner and the rest of the cast on fine form and a very interesting storyline, complete with detailed information about the shots heard around the world.

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50. Inglourious Basterds

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Tarantino's WW2 masterpiece basically re-writes history, as Brad Pitt at his most hilarious leads a team of Jewish American soldiers through France to kill Nazies. A very well-written screenplay and rich performances are definite strong points.

49. Pirates Of The Carribean: The Curse Of The Black Pearl

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Johnny Depp's performance alone secures this a place in this list.

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48. Casino

http://www.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/19/MPW-9783

Excellent camerawork, visual styler and great work from the cast make this much more than a GoodFellas copy. My sixth favourite film from my all time favourite director.

47. The Last Boyscout

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My favourite Bruce Willis actioner has plenty of charisma from it's two leads, some very humourous and foul mouthed dialogue and a great opening song.

46. Citizen Kane

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I love so many things about this film, from the extraordinary direction and script from Orson Welles, to the brilliant black and white cinematography.

However, it's Welles utterly perfect performance that I love most about this film. Classic.

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45. The Departed

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Scorsese's finest film since Casino, The Departed features outstanding work from it's cast and director and a show stopping ending, but it's Leonardo DiCaprio's career best performance that upstages Jack Nicholson that's most impressive.

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44. Twelve Monkeys

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Terry Gilliam's sci-fi masterpiece showcases a pair of brilliant performances from Bruce Willis and Brad Pitt, my two favourite actors at the moment, and impressive writing and visuals.

43. Superman II

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More action-packed than the first, and delves more into the relationship between Clark Kent and Lois Lane. Not to mention three certain Kryptonian supervillians.

42. The Fighter

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I used to think his Christian Bale's performance in American Psycho would always be considered his greatest. I was sooooooooo wrong, as Christian Bale delivers the best performance of 2010, and the rest of the cast give their best effort in this remarkable true story.

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41. Life Is Beautiful

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One of the most beautiful films of all time. Featuring a wonderful performance from Roberto Begnini and superb visuals, Life Is Beautiful is proof that foreign films aren't just fast-talking and subtitles.

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40. Star Wars

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This counts for the entire original trilogy. I am a big Star Wars fan, mainly because it captured my attention at a young age and I always wanted to be Han Solo.

My favourite is defintely the dark and compelling The Empire Strikes Back, but the entire original trilogy consists of masterpieces of sci-fi cinema.

39. The Matrix

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Mind blowing sci-fi cinema.




38. Reservoir Dogs

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This was for a while, my favourite Tarantino film and a fixture in my top ten. Times have changed, but my appreciation for it hasn't lessened. Tarantino's screenplay of mouth watering dialogue is performed perfectly by a great cast, a mesmerising Michael Madsen in particular.

[TylerDurden99]

37. Forrest Gump

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Tom Hanks' likeable lead performance isn't the only thing to like about this warm, touching film. Some wonderful supporting performances (especially Gary Sinise as Lt. Dan), good pacing and a strong emotional finale. Not sure if it deserved it's Best Picture Oscar, though.

36. The Truman Show

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Not fully a comedy, and not quite a drama, The Truman Show still makes for an engrossing watch, if only for the brilliant and unexpected performance from Jim Carrey.

35. Jurassic Park

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Eye-popping visuals aren't the only good thing about this film. Spielberg fills the screen with magic and tense direction, as the cast have fun with their performances and the iconic moments keep appearing.

The greatest moment of the film? I cried when the Brachiasaurus was first seen, accompanied by John William's wonderful score. It's definitely in my top 10 favourite scenes of all time.

[honeykid]

I thought Gump was a fun, entertaining film. However, I've never gotten the appeal of the other two.

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34. Indiana Jones & The Temple Of Doom

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My favourite Indy film and my second favourite Spielberg film. It has a terrific opening and some great action moments.

33. Schindler's List

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Excellent performances and visuals accompany some of Spielberg's most well-directed moments. Brutal and unforgettable.

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32. Taxi Driver

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Another Scorsese film to make the list. De Niro's most intense performance as Travis Bickle is the finest thing about this NYC odyssey.

[honeykid]

Too low for my liking, but a brilliant film and a brilliant choice. :)

[TylerDurden99]

31. Magnolia

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ1_QlLr_K3XfP3e60QpoVYeZYo2E_-ACCcxJCfowW4Yg2ssAD03A

Paul Thomas Anderson's near masterpiece, with fine performances from his cast, especially Tom Cruise and superb writing, but the most memorable thing about the film for me was the fact it was never boring in it's 181 minute running time.

I felt most sympathetic for the character of Stanley Spector, who never fails to generate emotion from me whenever I hear that line "Dad, you need to be nicer to me".

30. Apocalypse Now

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTo5laqTDmco_hH1eAcGmdI5Pz_g3IKSAEl73AtCSXPujVZfI6B

Flawed, but unquestionably deep masterwork from one of America's finest directors. Intense performances spark this odyssey.

[Frank The Tank]

Great choices :) I can see you're a Bale fan too.

[Tyler1]

Most of them are great films. My favourites on your list so far are Apocalypse Now, Indiana Jones, Magnolia, Matrix, Star Wars, Akira and of course, Space Odyssey. Though I greatly dislike Forest Gump, this list is excellent :)

[TylerDurden99]

29. Chinatown

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Marvellously structured film with arguably Jack Nicholson's finest screen performance. This is my second favourite film of the noir genre.

28. Unbreakable

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Burce Willis is currently my favourite actor, and this is his greatest performance. Masterfully using restraint and emotion to create a very affecting character, this is Bruce Willis at his finest.

M. Night is a superb storyteller, and next to his other masterpiece, Unbreakable stands as an excellent take on the superhero story.

27. Lord Of The Rings: The Return Of The King

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Both of these films don't come close to their magnificent predecessor, but they are still great in their own right. Well crafted characters and performances and epic battle sequences are the highlights of these two sequels.

[honeykid]

The first two are, of course, great. The other two, however. :nope:

[TylerDurden99]

26. Scarface

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Brian De Palma's gangster epic contains one of the greatest shootouts of all time and features Al Pacino's greatest performance.

[honeykid]

I think we all know how I feel about this one. Great choice, TD. :):up:

[TylerDurden99]

The Top 25

I am trying to make this my definitive top 25, where I have put in a lot of thought on which films to include, from critically acclaimed masterpieces to underrated works of art. There may be some choices in this that might make you think I'm not right in the head, but overall I've tried to make this as good as possible. So far, I am happy with the list and the top 25 I've created.

I will be changing the format and going a little bit more in-depth on why I believe these are my top 25 favourite films of all time. There will be a few ties and counting trilogies as one, so just a warning.

Also, while I like older films, there aren't that many of them in my top 25. My picks are primarily from the '80s, '90's and 00's, with a few from other decades sprinkled in.

So please enjoy, as this will be my last list for a while.

TylerDurden99.

[honeykid]

Bring it on! :)

[TylerDurden99]

25. A Clockwork Orange (1971)

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So it begins.

For my money, this is Stanley Kubrick's finest film to date, a stunning film that still captivates me today, even though the material and subject matter may seem a little less shocking than perceived on it's release. A Clockwork Orange is the story of Alex, the leader of a band of droogs, who take satisfaction from inflicting ultraviolence and rape. But one night, Alex goes too far and accidentally murders an innocent woman. When sent to prison, Alex volunteers for the Ludovico technique, an experimental procedure that rehablitates criminals within two weeks.

This is a film of two halves. The first half is, in my opinion, the better part of the film. It's wonderfully dark, amusing and satirical, as it chronicles the adventures of Alex before the Ludovico technique. There are many memorable moments, as well as Malcolm McDowell's iconic portrayal of the film's single character and Stanley Kubrick's excellent screenplay, impressively weaving a scathing look at society with a study of a wild and likeable droog.

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The second half shows Alex's life after the Ludovico. While I feel the first half is more entertaining, the second half is a testament to Kubrick's skill. As Alex's situation gets worse, he acheives to generate our sympathy, which is not only thanks to Kubrick, but also to McDowell's aforementioned brilliant performance. If I gave it any real thought, I'd probably rank his portrayal of Alex DeLarge in my top 10 favourite performances of all time.

It was a strong battle between this and another Kubrick masterpiece for the title of my favourite Kubrick film. In the end, for entertainment quality and multilayered themes, A Clockwork Orange came out on top. If only all films could be as entertaining, meaningful and stunning as Kubrick's finest two hours.

[TylerDurden99]

24. Hulk (2003)

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I think I summed up all my reasons for loving this film in my review thread, but to reiterate, Hulk is an incredibly underrated masterpiece. Many despised because it wasn't the Hulk they wanted. What they got was something much more beautiful. They got Ang Lee's visually dazzling and well-acted study of a man who lets out his anger via an alter ego, not a generic smash-em up actioner.

Eric Bana is perfect as Bruce Banner and Ang Lee's direction is brilliant, so give Hulk a chance; it may be the most underrated film of all time.

[MovieMan8877445]

There's actually three parts in A Clockwork Orange: ultra violence stage, prison/reform stage, and the rehabilitated stage. I'm sure they're described differently by some people, but that's just how I classify them.

[TylerDurden99]

23. Raging Bull (1980)

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My third favourite film from the world's greatest living director. This is a quality made masterpiece about a boxer whose main opponent is himself, in the ring and out of it. Robert De Niro's finest performance, tied with another I praise very highly, brilliant writing and the boxing sequences are unmatched to this day. How Scorsese could make such an absorbing drama about an unlikeable person is beyond unbelievable, but it happens in Raging Bull.

[TylerDurden99]

22. Heat (1995)

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Michael Mann's flair for strcuturing the greatest of action sequences was best showcased in this 1995 masterpiece, which deconstructs the characters of the cop and the thief. Al Pacino and Robert De Niro both deliver fine performances, even if Pacino's overacting gets on my nerves at times, and the street shootout is exhilarating. Easily one of the best films of the 1990's.

[TylerDurden99]

21. The Terminator (1984)

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A dark mix of science fiction and horror, The Terminator is how I like my James Cameron; with cyborgs. It's easily one of the most iconic, exciting and terrifying films of the 1980's.

Arnold Schwarzenegger (never been better) plays a killing machine sent back from the future to kill Sarah Connor, the mother of the unborn future resistance leader in the war against robots. Michael Biehn, a Cameron regular, plays a human soldier also sent back through to time to protect Connor. An audacious premise is brought to life by Cameron's excellent handling of the material. It's given real emotional content by it's two leads, Biehn and Linda Hamilton, and the perfect opposite from Arnie. It is the Governator's finest hour, as he delivers an emotionless performance that contributes to the film's success. In other words, he's believable as a robot.

Still, I haven't talked about the absolute highlight of the film; the police station shootout. This scene isn't an ordinary action film shoot-em-up; it doesn't focus on a singular hero trying to take down the baddies; it shows a group of people dying as they try to defend themselves. I was very affected by this scene as a young boy, as the concept of death was really pivotal to this scene. The emotional impact may have been too much for me, an eight year old boy, but luckily, the rest of the film purely entertained the hell of me.

The credit still goes to Cameron for creating such a masterpiece. Unfortunately, nowadays I think of him as a guy who started from the bottom and worked his way to the top, but ultimately, now that he's on top, the "king of the world", his work is now unfortunately hollow. Technically brilliant, but emotionally unsatisying. Still, this the Cameron I'll remember; marvellous visuals with engaging stories and characters. Thanks Jim.

[Pyro Tramp]

Good to see Hulk getting some love.

[TylerDurden99]

20. American Beauty (1999)

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A wonderful satire and a dissection of suburbia, aided by one of the greatest scripts of all time and remarkable performances. Kevin Spacey has never been better than he was as Lester Burnham, a depressed, middle aged father who suddenly wakes up and begins living. This does not go down well with his controlling wife, played brilliantly by Annette Bening.

More proof that 1999 was one of the greatest years for film, American Beauty is a film that resonated with me long after each viewing.

[honeykid]

Raging Bull's a great film that I don't like very much. Heat isn't a great film, but I really like watching it. I really like The Terminator and prefer it to the sequel. I've not seen American Beauty for years, but I both liked it and thought it was great the last time I did. I won't mention the two before it, as I think my views on both are pretty clear.

[TylerDurden99]

19. Tie: American History X (1998)

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Never before had I experienced something as shocking and stunning as American History X. I was a fan of Edward Norton up to that point, after seeing him in Primal Fear & Fight Club. But nothing could prepare me for his brutal, honest and ultimately touching portrayal of a reformed neo-nazi.

Norton embodies Derek Vinyard, the leader of a Neo-Nazi gang that condemn all different races, until Derek is sent to prison for murdering two black car-jackers. This leaves Derek's brother Danny vulnerable to the gang's appeal. Three years later, Derek is released from prison reformed, finding Danny heading down the same path as Derek.

It's a f***ing shame that this only got nominated for one Academy Award, when it was deserving of the Best Picture statuette. Still, the one nomination the film did receive at least shows some intelligence. Best Actor. Edward Norton is brilliant as the reformed Neo-Nazi. His character is like a train wreck; you don't want to stare, but you just can't look away.

[TylerDurden99]

19. Tie: Rain Man (1988)

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I just love everything about this film. Touching, warm, humourous, and most of all, well-acted, Rain Man is my absolute hands-down favourite film of the 1980's. Tom Cruise expertly plays Charlie Babbit, a selfish car dealer, who kidnaps the autistic brother he never knew to get his hands on an inheritance. But the two brothers start develop a connection, which provides the film with strong emotional moments.

I think everyone knows my feelings on Tom Cruise's performance in Rain Man. I still feel that it is his finest performance to date, as he realistically depicts a shallow man who finally finds some depth in his life. Dustin Hoffman may have won the Oscar for his extraordinary performance as Raymond, but Cruise is much more impressive and deserving.

Both Rain Man & American History X both involve sibling relationships, but theres more to these films than that. They both have career best performances from their cast, superb writing and distinct tones in storytelling.

[TylerDurden99]

18. Boogie Nights (1997)

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Back at no.30, I said that Magnolia is Paul Thomas Anderson's near masterpiece. Well, this is his masterpiece. A wonderfully conceived film that doesn't quite have the emotional center of Magnolia, but this has much better, more likeable characters and better performances. I pretty much loved Boogie Nights on my first viewing and all the viewings after that.

Mark Wahlberg is superb as Dirk Diggler, a "well-endowed" dishwasher, discovered by exotic film director Jack Horner, who recruits him to act in his films. At times funny, at times harsh and at all times gripping, Boogie Nights is everything I want out of a film; relatable characters, superb performances and a well-structured story. I find the character of Dirk Diggler most interesting, because he's comparable to Al Pacino's Tony Montana. They both start off washing dishes, both have a desire to be on top and soon alienate those who are close to them.

Burt Reynold's performance is very good as Jack Horner, as is the rest of the cast in their roles. However, the standout for me is Alfred Molina in his bit part as a crazed, rich drug addict. Not much depth in his character, but he does the crazy guy routine rather well.

Boogie Nights may be set in the porn industry, but it's mostly a film about flawed people, much like Magnolia, but not as emotional.

[honeykid]

Loving those last two picks, TD. Both great choices. I also completely agree with you about Tom Cruise's performance being the better performance in the film. :cool:

[TylerDurden99]

17. Inception (2010)

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If you haven't seen Chrsitopher Nolan's Inception yet, then prepare for one of the most imaginative, original thrillers of recent memory. Spectacular visuals, an excellent score and top performances do impress, but it's Nolan who deserves the most credit, for his extraordianry and remarkable screenplay and fast-paced direction.

Mind-blowing and exhilarating, Inception is the new Matrix.

[honeykid]

Mind-blowing and exhilarating, Inception is the new Matrix.
Inception's better than The Matrix, but I agree that it's the 'new' Matrix, in as much as it's an overblown, overrated fanboy fap film.

[TylerDurden99]

16. Signs (2002)

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I didn't expect to like this film as much as I did, when I rented it on a cold Saturday afternoon. When I watched the film, I was captivated M. Night Shyamalan's brilliant direction and the tense atmosphere he had created. I was also impressed by his ability to elicit strong performances from his actors, as he had done before with The Sixth Sense & Unbreakable. Overall, it's a very well crafted masterpiece with a superb ending. Modern classic.

[TylerDurden99]

15. Solaris (1972)

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I can see why people consider this painfully slow and rather hard to figure out. At it's 160 minute running time, Solaris isn't paced like a Sylvester Stallone action flick. On my first viewing, I did think it was very slow. But I also thought it was very imaginative (a word I've used a lot in this list, but I think it applies to this one more than others), wonderfully constructed and beautifully shot. And even though it was in Russian, it had my undivided attention.

Now, as I was 14 years old when I first saw Solaris, I didn't expect to even finish it, let alone end up liking it. However, from the first shot of the plant-life in the forest where the main character Kris Kelvin is walking through, to the last shot of imagined redemption, I was simultaneously enticed and fascinated by this story Andrei Tarkovsky was slowly developing.

Kris Kelvin is a psychiatrist, assigned to evaluate a space crew orbiting Solaris, a strange planet like object. While orbiting, Kris begins to see projections of his long-dead wife Hari. Kris soon discovers she is as human as he is, and that the projections created by Solaris are frighteningly real and very emotional.

The themes of love and redemption weren't immediately recognisable for a 14 year old, but through re-watches as I got older, I began to understand what Tarkovsky was trying to convey. As Kelvin loses his grasp on which reality to live, the one true feeling conquers all; love.

Kris Kelvin is portrayed in an understated performance by Donatas Banionis, that I frequently rate one of the greatest of all time. It's a very strong performance, especially when you realise he might be the only real character in the film.

I didn't appreciate the admirable but misguided remake by Steven
Soderbergh, but this is the equivalent of a masterpiece. Tarkovsky created something special with this, and while I couldn't get into Stalker or Andrei Rublev, but I consider him one of the greatest directors of all time, just for this one film.

[nebbit]

Nice list Tyler :yup:

[LuDiNaToR]

Inception's better than The Matrix, but I agree that it's the 'new' Matrix, in as much as it's an overblown, overrated fanboy fap film.

i don't see how this movie is overrated at all. why because it was successful, its a fantastic movie and i think people just like hating on that.

[Pyro Tramp]

i don't see how this movie is overrated at all. why because it was successful, its a fantastic movie and i think people just like hating on that.

Use a more appropriate adjective than 'fantastic' and it you might see why.

[TylerDurden99]

14. Tie: Seven Samurai (1954)

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If I gave it any thought, Seven Samurai might be the greatest action film I've ever seen. While there are other films higher than this masterpiece that do incorporate action into their stories, they're mainly from different genres, like superhero or sci-fi. Yes, Seven Samurai is my all-time favourite action film, tied with another film (or trilogy) that represents the best of the action genre.

Seven samurai are hired to protect a small village from bandits. The film's plot is simple, yet superbly multi-layered, with many characters getting their moment to shine, especially in the storyline of Kambei's sense of honour. Kambei is played by the brilliant Takashi Shimura, who definitely is a major part of this film being at such a high place. His performance is charismatic, emotional and plain masterful in the way he disappears into his character.

There is currently a thread on MoFo on the topic of whether Akira Kurosawa is overrated as a director. I can't give my opinion when I've only seen two Kurosawa films. But this film certainly tells me that Kurosawa is worth defending, because Seven Samurai is a work of art.

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14. Tie: Die Hard Trilogy (1988-1995)

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I may have said that The Last Boy Scout is my favourite Bruce Willis actioner, but these are the best Bruce Willis actioners. Underneath all the effects they may just be simple entertainment, but it's the damn finest simple entertainment around. Each film is equal to each other in quality (excpet maybe a slight drop in quality in the second installment), they all have memorable villians, exceptional writing that maintains a witty and exciting atmosphere, excellent characters and Bruce Willis in his most memorable screen performance. They all add up to the greatest group of action films of all time, along with Seven Samurai.

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"Yippee Kay Yay, Motherf**ker,"

That "guy from Moonlighting" had only one previous cinematic role before being cast in Die Hard, being fifth choice after Schwarzenegger, Stallone, Burt Reynolds and Richard Gere. I think it's safe to say that the makers of Die Hard made a smart choice casting Willis in the role of John McClane; no other actor could've brought the same mix of humour, likeability and irresistable charm to the role like Bruce did. Every line he delivers is almost classic. Other than the most famous quote above, there is my personal favourite...

"Welcome to the party, pal,"

McClane is a character that audiences love because of his human qualities crossed with the action hero. He's a one-man army, like Stallone or Schwarzenegger, but one that can be shot, can be outfought, one that can bleed. He also has problems with his marriage and his job and then this crew of terrorists mess up his life further.

To say that Rickman is brilliant in the role of lead terrorist Hans Gruber is an understatement. A combination of slick charm and delightful likeability makes Gruber the definitive '80's villian; cool, superficial, intelligent and any other adjectives you can think of. His delivery of his first line in the film ("Ladies and gentlemen,") is just one of the many nuances I love about Rickman's terrific lead performance.

But it's not just the hero and the villian that shine in this film. William Atherton is spot-on as the arrogant prick Dick Thornburg, Reginald VelJohnson is is wonderful as Sgt. Al Powell and I like how he gets his moment to be a hero at the end and Bonnie Bedelia is solid as Holly McClane, who doesn't really get much to do, other than interact with Rickman.

John McTiernan's fast-paced, exciting direction serves the film well, but it's the writing that stands out more. It amazes me how much quotable dialogue there is in the film. I could name about 30 lines that come off the top of my head, and still have more to quote.

I only revisited this last week and forgot how much the film impacted with me when I was younger. It made Bruce Willis my favourite action star, run around the house at age 10 pretending to shoot at German terrorists and I wore singlets for about two months after I saw it. Moreover, it was one of the films that sparked my love for the medium. The Last Boy Scout may be a lot of fun, but this is something else entirely. This is the action film.

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"We've got you,"

Die Hard 2 is the weakest of the original Die Hard trilogy. It has a few plot problems, it lacks credibility and Renny Harlin is no John McTiernan. But Die Hard 2 still gloriously kicks terrorist ass. Bruce Willis returns as John McClane, but instead of terrorists in a building, they're in a airport this time. Also, this time they're miltary trying to free a government prisoner. They seize control of the airport's technology and threaten to crash planes if their demands to release the prisoner are not met. They have prepared for everything, except for one off duty cop who just happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Bruce Willis is still great as John McClane, as his stunts get bigger and bolder than the first. In the first film, he jumped off a roof tied to a fire hose. This time, he jumps onto a moving plane. This is where the credibility problems kick in. It seems almost impossible to do the things that McClane is doing. Yet, we overlook that, because Willis still has that charm as McClane and Renny Harlin can construct good action sequences.

This installment doesn't die as hard as the first installment, but it's still better than some of the crap that Hollywood is shi**ing out today.

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John McClane (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000246/): [hands Zeus a gun] Here take this.
Zeus (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000168/): How's it work?
John McClane (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000246/): You don't know how to shoot a gun?
Zeus (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000168/): Look, all brothers don't know how to shoot guns, you racist motherf**ker.
John McClane (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000246/): Sue me.

Die Hard With A Vengeance is my favourite of the three. Not only is Bruce Willis as good as he was in the first installment, but he is partnered with Samuel L. Jackson, with whom he acheives brilliant chemistry. And no stuck in a building or an airport in this one. McClane is let loose in New York City, where a mad bomber named Simon demands that McClane is to do what "Simon says".

Superbly constructed plot that underneath, doesn't have much to it, but is made up for by the two lead performances, a great Jeremy Irons and well-written dialogue for the two stars. I don't know why this is my favourite, it just is.

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The fourth part is decent enough, but these three are miles ahead of it. Fun, iconic, exhilarating, witty, violent... this is the greatest action movie trilogy.

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13. The Godfather Trilogy (1972-1990)

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I don't have much to say about The Godfather Trilogy compared to others, but I do think they're technically brilliant films. Even the hated third part is well-structered and well-acted (except the one obvious cast member). They're the finest example of what a gangster film should be, and while they're not the highest film from the genre on this list, it makes for must-see viewing for fans of said genre.

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12. Shaun Of The Dead (2004)

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An insane horror comedy, with the most likeable characters I've ever seen and a genius script, with so many hilarious moments. This is the finest comedy I've ever seen, apart from The Toy Story Trilogy.

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I :love: Shaun :yup:

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11. Tie: GoodFellas (1990)
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You know in favourites list, when there is that one tricky film that should be in your top 10, but just misses out? I think GoodFellas is that tricky film for me. It's a wonderfully directed, flashy visual experience that can't help but get better with each viewing. The performances are all career best, the flow of the film of course works rather well and when you're watching a Scorsese picture, you're not watching a movie. You're watching a story, with characters you can't help but like, even if they're violent psychopaths and engaging, well structured sequences. They also have kick ass soundtracks.

I love GoodFellas almost as much as any of the films in my current top 10, and the only reason it just misses out is because I love the films in my current top 10 a fraction of a percent more than Martin Scorsese's likeable masterpiece. I'll end this by posting a link to one of the greatest scenes of all time, which in excellent Scorsese style, mixes music, great camerawork and a director who knows what he is doing.

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11. Tie: City Of God (2002)

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The other greatest gangster film of all time, City Of God really benefits from the influence of the film that it shares a place with on this list. Some of the camerawork recalls GoodFellas, as it is done with flair to spare and engages you into the world of violence and crime. They also have similarities in the characters, in that there is a likeable protagonist (Rocket/Henry Hill), and a psychotic, villianous antagonist (L'il Ze/Tommy). But other than these few similarities, this is significantly more than the Brazillian GoodFellas. It is certainly made with a lot of style, and there are some fine moments of humour, but what this has that GoodFellas doesn't, is the grim side which explores death and what people do to survive.

Like Joe Pesci, Leandro Firmino is remarkable and memorable as the likeable psychopath L'il Ze. But his performance is one of many elements that makes this film what it is; a grim, stylish, interesting, funny and very accessible foreign masterpiece.

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Two very good movies :yup:

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ive never seen city of god. :rolleyes:

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10. L.A Confidential (1997)

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The finest noir I've ever seen, which really showcases the talent involved, as Curtis Hanson extracts incredible performances from each actor and weaves a wonderful adaptation of the James Ellroy and and a very fascinating examination of personalities, with different views of honour. This glamourous take on 1950's Hollywood is very endearing and was critically loved on release. Many MoFos love it to pieces, and by looking at it's high placing on this list, I do too. But I originally didn't treat as it should've been. On my first viewing, the first rate performances were noticeable, but the story wasn't nearly as engaging as I heard it was, it seemed really slow in it's pacing and I really just plain do not like Russell Crowe. He's seriously overrated as an actor, especially in Gladiator. But repeat viewings really opened my eyes a bit more each time. I saw the masterful and complex storytelling, the well-explored themes and I even saw that Russell Crowe is at the top of his game here.

In seedy 1950's Los Angeles, three very different police officers are connected by one single case; The Nite Owl Massacre. Edmund Exley (Guy Pearce) is looking to become a detective, no matter what the cost, even if it means ratting out fellow officers; Jack Vincennes (Kevin Spacey, in a very charismatic performance) is only interested in being around the Badge Of Honour show that he's "technical advisor" on; and Bud White (Russell Crowe) is interested in dishing out his own brand of justice. The three detectives paths cross during the turbulent investigation of the Nite Owl Massacre.

The wonderful costume design and brilliant textured photography do help give the film an interesting visual atmosphere and the excellent writing is probably one of the 10 best screenplays of all time. The screenplay is engaging and gripping and Hanson also directs the film with flair half-seen in The Hand Rocks The Cradle. In this film, he's given much more room to creatively work in the noir genre.

The performances have been mentioned before in this review, but they're deserving of all acclaim. Russell Crowe is a decent actor and this remains his second best performance to date, behind Cinderella Man. Kevin Spacey added another notable portrayal to his '90's streak. The always reliable James Cromwell is solid as Dudley Smith, as is Kim Basinger, who never bettered her performance as Lynn Bracken. But the obvious stand-out is Guy Pearce who delivers a career defining performance as Ed Exley. It's easy to see why Nolan cast him in Memento, where he gave another great performance.

It may not be as popular as Chinatown, another favourite of mine, but this stands as a noir classic and the greatest film of 1997.

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9. Cape Fear (1991)

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I have maintained for quite sometime that this is the finest film from Martin Scorsese I've seen yet. GoodFellas, Raging Bull & Taxi Driver may all be considered filmic masterpieces, but this is one underrated thriller, with a strong atmosphere and some excellent performances.

It's no secret I love Robert De Niro's performance in this, and yes, I do believe it rivals Raging Bull for intensity and effort. How De Niro shifts between being a shouting parody to a frightening psychopath and still remains terrifyingly real still escapes me, and De Niro makes him a more challenging character than Robert Mitchum's in the 1962 original. Max Cady is a monster, but he's also a bit sympathetic, being denied his rights by Nick Nolte's almost antihero Sam Bowden.

Scorsese really created a minor masterpiece that wasn't even recognised for Best Director at the Oscars (which it deserved) and remains underseen (even though it's one of Marty's highest grossing efforts) and seems superfluous in Scorsese's works. But if you haven't, I urge to watch it, as it is as much challenging as it is scary.

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8. Se7en (1995)

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As many of you may know, I'm a huge fan of David Fincher. His directorial style and ability to create memorable settings in his films has always grabbed me, even in his weaker efforts like Alien 3. This is widely considered his masterpiece, apart from Fight Club, which most definitely appear down the line. This is easily the most atmospheric horror film I've ever seen, with the nameless city and it's inhabitants portrayed nearly like animals. And in the middle, are three intelligent men, a seasoned detective, a young, less experienced cop, and a smart serial killer. Each performance is worth merit, but Morgan Freeman's performance in particular is impressive, as he is given the hard task of playing the character the audience will connect with the most; a conflicted man, who seems to be the only person not sinking along with the society he lives in.

This isn't the last David Fincher film on this list, but it does stand out from the rest for being his most grim and shocking work.

[TylerDurden99]

7. Pulp Fiction (1994)

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Nothing could prepare audiences for this. Reservoir Dogs may have shown what writer-director Quentin Tarantino was capable of, but this is beyond that ear-slicing, dialogue driven crime film. Tarantino never bettered his highly influential masterpiece, but to be fair, how can better a masterwork? Interweaving engrossing tales about cool and likeable characters, Tarantino created maybe the most popular film since Star Wars. He also rejuvenated the careers of John Travolta and Bruce Willis, created careers for Samuel L. Jackson and Uma Thurman, made himself an A-List director, a controversial figure, and single-handedly changed cinema forever. Not bad.

[honeykid]

Good choice, but I don't think that he "created" Uma Thurman's career. She'd already starred in a number of films by the time she's in Pulp Fiction. I can see your point with SMJ, it certainly made him famous and gave him a memorable role, though he'd already won the Best Supporting Actor Award at Cannes (which they started just for his performance) for Jungle Fever. Most popular film since Star Wars? I think that's debatable. It certainly became part of the culture and was much referenced.

I think it gave Travolta 'credit' again, ditto Bruce Willis, but I'd say Look Who's Talking rejuvinated Travolta's career.

Did it "change cinema forever"? Really? I think it made (a lot) more money than most American independent films, but I think Reservoir Dogs and, before that, Slacker, had already shown the way. That probably peaked in 1996 with the Best Picture category at the '97 Oscars having 4 of the 5 nominees being 'independent' films.

[bouncingbrick]

How can you make a top 60 list with a bunch of "tie's" in it? It's not really a top 60 list, now is it?

[Skepsis93]

Inception's better than The Matrix, but I agree that it's the 'new' Matrix, in as much as it's an overblown, overrated fanboy fap film.

I certainly agree there as far as Inception is concerned, but The Matrix? Not only the perfect action sci-fi flick but its influence has been such that its successors, like Inception, can't help but seem derivative, at least to me. The Matrix is the first of its kind and one of relatively few films I'd say is close to 100% original.

i don't see how this movie is overrated at all. why because it was successful, its a fantastic movie and i think people just like hating on that.

Intelligent people are capable of forming their own opinions. Yes, there are plenty of hipsters out there who dislike stuff just to be different, but don't tar everyone with that brush. Inception is overrated, in my opinion, because of the complete lack of character development where there was clear and abundant opportunity, and the simple fact that cool effects and trailer moments don't really impress me that much, at least not anymore. They're shallow.

[LuDiNaToR]

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Intelligent people are capable of forming their own opinions. Yes, there are plenty of hipsters out there who dislike stuff just to be different, but don't tar everyone with that brush. Inception is overrated, in my opinion, because of the complete lack of character development where there was clear and abundant opportunity, and the simple fact that cool effects and trailer moments don't really impress me that much, at least not anymore. They're shallow.

character development, we knew enough about Dom for it to work. its described as a action heist movie and thats exacley what we got. The Dark knight gets nothing but praise, the joker gets nothing but praise yet he is one of the most undeveloped characters i have ever seen, he pops up on are screens and we no nothing at all about him and yet it works for the dark knight and inception gets slammed for it. Inception is Nolans best work if you ask me.

[Skepsis93]

character development, we knew enough about Dom for it to work. its described as a action heist movie and thats exacley what we got. The Dark knight gets nothing but praise, the joker gets nothing but praise yet he is one of the most undeveloped characters i have ever seen, he pops up on are screens and we no nothing at all about him and yet it works for the dark knight and inception gets slammed for it. Inception is Nolans best work if you ask me.

Sure it works. It's good entertainment, don't get me wrong here, but if you ask me it's not that good, for my aforementioned reasons. I never said it was bad, just overrated.

As for The Joker, well, I've publicized my thoughts on that performance on MoFo before. It's just not as good as people make it out to be. Yes, it's striking, yes, Ledger did a good job and yes, it works. But comic-book-movie villains in my experience are usually very shallow characters, as you just described, and The Joker is no exception. Underdeveloped characters are not, for me, conductive of a great movie of any genre.

[LuDiNaToR]

Sure it works. It's good entertainment, don't get me wrong here, but if you ask me it's not that good, for my aforementioned reasons. I never said it was bad, just overrated.

As for The Joker, well, I've publicized my thoughts on that performance on MoFo before. It's just not as good as people make it out to be. Yes, it's striking, yes, Ledger did a good job and yes, it works. But comic-book- movie villains in my experience are usually very shallow characters, as you just described, and The Joker is no exception. Underdeveloped characters are not, for me, conductive of a great movie of any genre.

fair enough if you aint a fan of the movie, i just think people read into inception to much, its doesn't try to be clever in my opinion it is what it is, its a simple concept and i enjoy it for what it is...... fun.

[TylerDurden99]

Inception is a fun movie. I like it. I do agree that people read too much into it, and don't like it because they believe it's trying to be too clever. I like Inception because it was a big change from Nolan's earlier work. While he was no stranger to constructing storylines in complex ways, it feels more daring than his other films.

As for Pulp Fiction, I can't think of a more popular film after Star Wars. Maybe Raiders Of The Lost Ark comes close. Fair point with the Uma Thurman arguement, he didn't create her career, but definitely gave it a high point and really introduced her into the public eye.

[bouncingbrick]

fair enough if you aint a fan of the movie, i just think people read into inception to much, its doesn't try to be clever in my opinion it is what it is, its a simple concept and i enjoy it for what it is...... fun.

Define reading too much into Inception. I don't know anyone who does that for that that particular film.

[LuDiNaToR]

Define reading too much into Inception. I don't know anyone who does that for that that particular film.

are you kidding, loads and i mean loads of people try to make it sound more complicated than it is, more clever and i think alot of people on here would agree with that.

[Skepsis93]

are you kidding, loads and i mean loads of people try to make it sound more complicated than it is, more clever and i think alot of people on here would agree with that.

Either that or they really do find it more complicated than it is. I remember being slightly drunk and not really paying attention the first time so I was pretty confused at the end, so that may be the scenario for some people if they only saw it that once. Fortunately I concentrated for a second viewing and got it completely. :p

[bouncingbrick]

are you kidding, loads and i mean loads of people try to make it sound more complicated than it is, more clever and i think alot of people on here would agree with that.

It's not clever? It's slightly more clever than your answer. ;)

Ok, it's a summer blockbuster that doesn't actively insult the audiences intelligence. It has a coherant plot, despite a few holes and very shady science. It has actual characters, a couple of which you can understand and enjoy watching.

It also functions as a metaphore for the filmmaking process and the creative process in general, which is something that I personally love.

Plus, it is a completely meta/post modern film because it actively performs an act of inception on the audience, making us believe that summer blockbusters can be of a higher quality than Transformers or something based on a comic book.

Is that the kind of overrated claptrap you're refering too? Because I happen to think all of that is true.

[TylerDurden99]

6. Fight Club (1999)

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David Fincher's impressive visual masterpiece, poulated with strong writing and excellent performances, is still as edgy today as it was back in 1999. It deals with multilayered themes and portrays violence in a very dark, almost humourous way. So many standout scenes, and all held together by Fincher's assured direction. It really is the masterpiece of 1999.

I said everything there is to say about Fight Club before, but a few words are needed on how much I adore Brad Pitt's performance. His confidence, his charisma, his twisted sense of humour and his outstanding delivery of every line of dialogue, Brad Pitt becomes the cool Tyler Durden. It's definitely my favourite Pitt performance, and my favourite performance of all time.

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6. Fight Club (1999)

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David Fincher's impressive visual masterpiece, poulated with strong writing and excellent performances, is still as edgy today as it was back in 1999. It deals with multilayered themes and portrays violence in a very dark, almost humourous way. So many standout scenes, and all held together by Fincher's assured direction. It really is the masterpiece of 1999.

I said everything there is to say about Fight Club before, but a few words are needed on how much I adore Brad Pitt's performance. His confidence, his charisma, his twisted sense of humour and his outstanding delivery of every line of dialogue, Brad Pitt becomes the cool Tyler Durden. It's definitely my favourite Pitt performance, and my favourite performance of all time.

Let me ask you something, do you think that Fight Club is a bit too much of having it's cake and eating it too? What I mean is, the film seems to honestly believe it's message all the way up until the point that it needs the character to realize that it's wrong to blow up buildings and try to completely change the world. It promotes the idea that we're all living this false life of consumeristic, brain-dead, psuedo-bliss and none of us is happy (which isn't true anyway), but then in the end Norton wants to not change things. And he doesn't really have any expressed reason for wanting to stop Durden other than not killing people, which we know isn't going to happen anyway. The film balks on it's own message (which is a blatan contradiction anyway since the film is made by greedy, soul-sucking corporation).

Don't get me wrong, it's a fun and entertaining film, but I just don't think it's anywhere near the masterpiece film that some people think of it.

EDIT: I'm not trying to piss all over your list, I'm just fascinated by how captivated some people are with Fight Club. I feel it's a film very much worth debating. The fact that it's worth debate is direct support for it's quality, IMO. However, Fincher has done much better work since.

[LuDiNaToR]

great pick fight club, that made my number 1 pick.

[TylerDurden99]

Let me ask you something, do you think that Fight Club is a bit too much of having it's cake and eating it too? What I mean is, the film seems to honestly believe it's message all the way up until the point that it needs the character to realize that it's wrong to blow up buildings and try to completely change the world. It promotes the idea that we're all living this false life of consumeristic, brain-dead, psuedo-bliss and none of us is happy (which isn't true anyway), but then in the end Norton wants to not change things. And he doesn't really have any expressed reason for wanting to stop Durden other than not killing people, which we know isn't going to happen anyway. The film balks on it's own message (which is a blatan contradiction anyway since the film is made by greedy, soul-sucking corporation).

Don't get me wrong, it's a fun and entertaining film, but I just don't think it's anywhere near the masterpiece film that some people think of it.

EDIT: I'm not trying to piss all over your list, I'm just fascinated by how captivated some people are with Fight Club. I feel it's a film very much worth debating. The fact that it's worth debate is direct support for it's quality, IMO. However, Fincher has done much better work since.


Norton's character was interested in changing things up until the point where Tyler's antics started to become a bit more dangerous than they should be and Tyler starts to become a bit of a fascist, in his nature.

This isn't Fincher's best work in my opinion, either.

[bouncingbrick]

Norton's character was interested in changing things up until the point where Tyler's antics started to become a bit more dangerous than they should be and Tyler starts to become a bit of a fascist, in his nature.

This isn't Fincher's best work in my opinion, either.

But the buildings blow up anyway and The Narrator just sort of shrugs his shoulders! What is the film trying to say in the end?

The novel was so much better, and at least in it there's a true conviction from the Narrator's perspective to contain the beast he's unleashed. Even if it isn't completely successful.

[TylerDurden99]

5. The Complete Works Of Pixar (1995-2011)

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This is possibly the biggest cheat in the history of MoFo lists, but I honestly love them all equally. I have seen every major motion picture from Pixar, and all their shorts, and I can honestly say that this is my favourite studio. Consistently entertaining and well-made features, with loveable characters, hilarious writing, remarkable attention to detail, and most of them are more emotional and realistic than live action films.

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Toy Story was the breakout feature, and while it's animation isn't spectacular like later Pixar films, and it has a very '90's feeling, the storytelling and voice performances are top-notch. This captured the wonder and adventure of being a child, and it definitely raised the bar for all animated films to come. But for me, the genius of the film still lies in the extremely funny group of characters; envious Woody, macho Buzz, loyal Slinky, mature Hamm, dimwitted Rex and cynical Mr Potato Head. Not it's best work, but remains Pixar's defining film.

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A Bug's Life is generally considered the least of the Pixar films, and to be fair, it isn't up to the standards of Monster's Inc. or Toy Story. But it's still a fairly underrated, beautifully animated feature, featuring a wonderfully nasty voice performance from Kevin Spacey. The characters are still very memorable and loveable, it's well paced and is also noteable for it's dealing with the Hopper character. I was sort of traumatised by that moment as a kid. I only just revisited this a few months ago, and I still think it's one of Pixar's finest.

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Toy Story 3, Wall-E & Up have nothing on this, the last great movie of the 1990's. This is my favourite Pixar movie. It improves greatly on it's predecessor, strongly develops it's characters, remains Pixar's funniest, subtly touching and most entertaining masterpiece. Rex is my favourite animated character and this is his movie. He is hilarious in every scene he's in. "I know how to defeat Zurg!".

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Pixar's cutest little movie is uproarious in laughter and gentle in it's approach of monsters. You can tell the characters are cared for, and this shows in every other Pixar film as well. John Goodman was perfect for Sully, and Billy Crystal's defining performance is one where he isn't even on screen.

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Truly touching in every way, the story of a clownfish struggling to find his son is equally funny and uplifting, as friendship and love are explored, as well as characters you'll love from the first moment.

The Incredibles is, along with Cars, Pixar's least emotionally affecting. Instead, it's a throwback and a homage to old-style filmmaking and superhero films. This seems to be a favourite among MoFo's, but when you watch it, it's easy to see why.

Ratatouille, outside of The Toy Story Trilogy, is my favourite stand-alone Pixar film, especially in it's visual excellence and inspiring message. Remy, the most loveable rat ever, is one of Pixar's top 5 finest characters, and that's saying a lot. He's compelled to create and has this unstoppable driving force behind him. A wonderful film.

Wall-e, Up & Toy Story 3 are all great as well, and even the weaker Cars films have their moments. In my vote for the next MoFo top 100, this will count as Toy Story 2, being my favourite Pixar film. But they are all the best of the best, the cream of the crop. The finest animated films I've ever seen.

[honeykid]

OK, I know this is your list and this is a point made a few times on a few lists by a few people, but this is the biggest pisstake yet on the tie/trilogy/saga as one choice that I've ever seen.

[bouncingbrick]

Since you seem to have forgotten at some point, I'm putting a quote from you up:


This will be comprised of 60 key films that I love and respect, ones that simply entertain, ones of superb quality and ones that hold a special place in my heart. So sit back and enjoy the countdown of Tyler: Part III.



I'm seconding honeykid. I know it's your list but it's kind of rediculous. You can't actually call this a top 60 list if you're going to bump the number up with ties. The AFI doesn't have ties in it's top 100 list.

Have the balls to bump movies off the list. Don't count an entire studio as a single entry. It's called conviction.

Or just freaking make it a top 100! Jesus, is that so hard?

EDIT: You know what? Scratch all of what I just said, the fact that X-Men 3 is on this list confims that I shouldn't take it so seriously anyway. ;)

[Skepsis93]

Look, it's a nice write-up, ok? This isn't an AFI list. It's a list designed to show us Tyler's broader taste and if he wants to show us how much he likes Pixar's movies, let him do it in whatever way he pleases. Who cares if he's "cheated"? I'm here to look at lists and be entertained by them and I really don't care about the format as long as they are well written and interesting, as this one is. You guys are coming off as really stuck up right now, quit taking these things so seriously.

P.S. Pixar do indeed make consistently great films and this is a nice choice. Personally if I had to pick a #1, it would be Toy Story, though I certainly like 2 a lot.

[bouncingbrick]

You want to know why I'm making a deal of it, Skepsis? Because when you make a list of numerically ranked items the numer is supposed to bear some significance. If you add in a ton of tied films then the significance of the rank is nullified. For example, Pulp Fiction is on this list at number seven, which is a number that on any other list would be an impressive feat. But it's actually somewhere closer to number twenty because there's an entire production company ahead of it. Now, the number isn't as impressive, in fact, it's near pointless.

How about this, just go back and edit out all the numbers, Tyler. Then the films will be equally significant.

[LuDiNaToR]

I agree with Hk in a way, It went abit to far with the whole of pixar's movies at number 5. I have trilogys in my top 50 and i have a tie in there aswell so i can't say much but i agree with Skepsis aswell, bouncingbrick your being an a**, its his list... let him get on with it.

[Skepsis93]

Now, the number isn't as impressive, in fact, it's near pointless.

Oh, no. What are we to do? :eek:

I enjoy reading what you have to say about your choices, Tyler. If you ask me you don't need to change a thing.

[bouncingbrick]

I agree with Hk in a way, It went abit to far with the whole of pixar's movies at number 5. I have trilogys in my top 50 and i have a tie in there aswell so i can't say much but i agree with Skepsis aswell, bouncingbrick your being an a**, its his list... let him get on with it.

Yes, I know that. But it doesn't change the fact that numbering a 60 movie list that includes more than 60 movies messes up the importance of having numbers in the first place.

I'm always an a**, for the record.

[HitchFan97]

Who cares if there's ties, its a great list. :up:

[TylerDurden99]

Don't like it, don't read it.

[TylerDurden99]

Also, shield your eyes, there is another tie coming up.

[bouncingbrick]

But do you disagree that having ties dilutes the actual ranking?

I feel like that's a debate worth having.

[HitchFan97]

I don't think it dilutes ranking at all. Take the Sight and Sound polls for example, they have ties and they're very well-regarded lists; perhaps the BEST regarded.

[bouncingbrick]

I don't think it dilutes ranking at all. Take the Sight and Sound polls for example, they have ties and they're very well-regarded lists; perhaps the BEST regarded.

From what I know, those are voted on by a group of people. Ties occur naturally in a vote. This is one guys list! How do you tie with yourself?

[HitchFan97]

The point I was making when I mentioned the Sight and Sound polls is that ties can't possibly dilute ranking if such a high profile list is willing to use them. The poll could haved just as easily decided to implement some kind of tiebreaker method, but they decided not to because there's nothing wrong with ties. Aside from that, it's his list and he can use ties if he wants to.

[HitchFan97]

Are you finishing up the list anytime soon???

[TylerDurden99]

I don't think I will. My taste in movies has changed a lot since I started this list, and as you can see under my favourite movies, a lot has changed. Maybe in a year or so, I'll make a new one, but for now, I'm leaving this one uncontinued.

[bouncingbrick]

I don't think I will. My taste in movies has changed a lot since I started this list, and as you can see under my favourite movies, a lot has changed. Maybe in a year or so, I'll make a new one, but for now, I'm leaving this one uncontinued.

This happens to people all the time. I notice your top list on your profile page includes some P. T. Anderson where this thread does not. Good for you to admit that your taste is changing.

Personally I fall in and out of love with different films all the time. Right now I'm going through an "I hate the mainstream" phase like nobodies business. I keep watching films that look stupid and boring (and most of them are), but I think I'm being a bit unfairly harsh because I'm so jaded by what's being done by Hollywood. Maybe I'll swing back one day, who knows?

[gandalf26]

I don't think I will. My taste in movies has changed a lot since I started this list, and as you can see under my favourite movies, a lot has changed. Maybe in a year or so, I'll make a new one, but for now, I'm leaving this one uncontinued.

Not fair. Just finish it dude.