View Full Version : Dog Star Man's Top 100 of Sorts: (Year 2011)
Dog Star Man
02-05-11, 09:30 AM
I usually don't bode well with lists of any kind, but I thought it might be interesting to layout films I've enjoyed over the years. I hope it finds you well. I won't provide explanations of why these are placed unless asked, since I hope to do reviews of them all sometime. Enjoy my friends:
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1. 2001: A Space Odyssey
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2. Godfather: Part I and II
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3. Ikiru
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4. Raging Bull
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5. Winter Light
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6. 8 1/2
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7. Rear Window
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8. Dog Star Man
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9. The Life and Death of 9413: A Hollywood Extra
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10. Casablanca
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11. A Woman Under the Influence
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12. Kwaidan
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13. Eraserhead
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14. Turtles Can Fly
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15. Ringu
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16. Wizard of Oz
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17. In the Mood for Love
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18. Hoop Dreams
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19. Scorpio Rising
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20. It's a Wonderful Life
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21. A Place in the Sun
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22. Warrendale
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23. The Searchers
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24. Akira
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25. House
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26. Faster Pussycat! Kill, Kill!
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27. Ivan's Childhood.
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28. Seven Samurai
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29. Double Indemnity
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30. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
Dog Star Man
02-05-11, 09:32 AM
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31. Fargo
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32. Meshes of the Afternoon
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33. Black Sabbath
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34. Run Lola Run
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35. Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid
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36. Goodfellas
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37. The Tales of Hoffmann
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38. Rushmore
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39. Singin' in the Rain
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40. Tribulation 99: Alien Anomalies Under America
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41. The Thing
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42. Schindler's List
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43. The Lord of the Rings Trilogy
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44. Dirty Harry
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45. My Neighbor Totoro
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46. White Heat
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47. Interim
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48. Branded to Kill
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49. L'Avventura
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50. Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
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51. Once Upon a Time in the West
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52. Solaris
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53. Suspiria
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54. The Mechanics of Love
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55. Heros of the East
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56. Jaws
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57. To Kill a Mockingbird
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58. Paths of Glory
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59. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington
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60. Breathless
Dog Star Man
02-05-11, 09:34 AM
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61. Rashomon
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62. Monty Python's: The Life of Brian
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63. The Battle of the Algiers
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64. A Secret in Their Eyes
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65. Kustom Kar Kommandos
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66. Night of the Living Dead
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67. F for Fake
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68. I am Cuba
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69. Chinatown
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70. Danger: Diabolik!
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71. Amelie
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72. Xala
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73. A Study in Choreography for the Camera
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74. Sherlock Jr.
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75. Little Deiter Needs to Fly
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76. City Lights
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77. La Roue
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78. Bicycle Theives
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79. The River
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80. Shadows
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81. Pepe le Moko
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82. Ed Wood
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83. Shop on Main Street
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84. The Celebration
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85. Red Desert
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86. Yojimbo
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87. Invasion of the Body Snatchers
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88. The Apu Trilogy
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89. Animal House
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90. Hiroshima mon Amour
Dog Star Man
02-05-11, 09:35 AM
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91. Playtime
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92. The Red Shoes
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93. The Battleship Potemkin
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94. Pacific 231
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95. A Night at the Opera
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96. Pick up on South Street
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97. La Strada
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98. The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari
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99. This Sporting Life
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100. Plan 9 from Outer Space
wintertriangles
02-05-11, 09:52 AM
Unique list. I own a lot of these so yay me. Some interesting things, not nitpicking, just curious: Why City Lights out of Chaplin, Red Shoes from Powell, Suspiria, and (this one is nitpicking) It's a Wonderful Life?
Dog Star Man
02-05-11, 10:18 AM
Unique list. I own a lot of these so yay me. Some interesting things, not nitpicking, just curious: Why City Lights out of Chaplin, Red Shoes from Powell, Suspiria, and (this one is nitpicking) It's a Wonderful Life?
Well as far as City Lights and It's a Wonderful Life are concerned. Much of the reason they rank with me is because I myself hold the vision and philosophy of the Romantics. I tend to appreciate films that hold this sort of vision and philosophy in mind, whatever their degree may be. The Red Shoes and Suspiria on the other had are extremely visual films, stunning really, in their use of color and effects on how they portray their story and or message. So they score points with me there. I hope this helps.
wintertriangles
02-05-11, 10:19 AM
In that case I'm surprised Black Narcissus wasn't picked, though the 15 minute ballet scene is pretty hard to beat.
Dog Star Man
02-05-11, 10:21 AM
In that case I'm surprised Black Narcissus wasn't picked, though the 15 minute ballet scene is pretty hard to beat.
Don't get me wrong, I love Black Narcissus, but I didn't want to bombard my list with Powell and Pressburger.
wintertriangles
02-05-11, 10:32 AM
Fair enough :p I feel like I could ask about all of them and not get bored.
Just for the sake of conversation, why do you feel a Romantic concept fits It's a Wonderful Life? It seemed a bit far-reaching to blend enough Romantic idealism with sombre realism, instead it seemed George was a complete tool of everyone around him and I felt no reason to care about his woes because he brought them upon himself through thinking he needed so much. Even through his realization later, it doesn't even point out what's so wonderful about life, but instead something too superficial to really take home like continuing his altruism. I'll stop before it sounds like a tirade plus I could be simply reading it differently.
Dog Star Man
02-05-11, 10:41 AM
Just for the sake of conversation, why do you feel a Romantic concept fits It's a Wonderful Life? It seemed a bit far-reaching to blend enough Romantic idealism with sombre realism, instead it seemed George was a complete tool of everyone around him and I felt no reason to care about his woes because he brought them upon himself through thinking he needed so much. Even through his realization later, it doesn't even point out what's so wonderful about life, but instead something too superficial to really take home like continuing his altruism. I'll stop before it sounds like a tirade plus I could be simply reading it differently.
These are all 'real' concerns and arguments, much of them owe due credit. In fact I believe there was an article put out by the Mises Foundation about "Christmas Movies and Bad Economics." However, the Romanticists, if you recall, put aside the 'rational' as it were to produce illustrations, music, literature, etc. that would instead move people on a more visceral level, rather than something that was say more tangible. They were the ones, after all, that proceeded the Modernists. Think of a Van Gogh painting whereby the image is distorted, it creates images more so through color and less so with the precision of the stroke, which creates the profound illustration, and it's inherent emotion. This is much of what I see in that film.
wintertriangles
02-05-11, 10:47 AM
So more of a folk tale than an allegory?
However, the Romanticists, if you recall, put aside the 'rational' as it were to produce illustrations, music, literature, etc. that would instead move people on a more visceral level, rather than something that way say more tangible.I know what you meant, and I could be mistaking this for something else, but I always thought a Romantic, in full sequence, goes through a visionary, chimerical to create and always returning at some point to, but not necessarily concluding with, a stroke of reality for comparison and a yin-yang effect.
Dog Star Man
02-05-11, 10:55 AM
So more of a folk tale than an allegory?
I would find this position aids the film, yes. Even though this is most likely not Capra's intent, it certainly can function in these terms too.
I know what you meant, and I could be mistaking this for something else, but I always thought a Romantic, in full sequence, goes through a visionary, chimerical to create and always returning at some point to, but not necessarily concluding with, a stroke of reality for comparison and a yin-yang effect.
Is this not It's a Wonderful Life in question. The point at which reality chasms from itself to a world without George, (the chimerical), concluding back to the reality in question to produce its illustrated point, as you precisely and accurately put, "Yin-Yang" Effect?
wintertriangles
02-05-11, 11:11 AM
I would find this position aids the film, yes. Even though this is most likely not Capra's intent, it certainly can function in these terms too.It may have been Bertolucci who said " I don't film messages. I let the post office take care of those." and with that I imply that films don't come with their own meaning, but it comes from the viewer.
Is this not It's a Wonderful Life in question. The point at which reality chasms from itself to a world without George, (the chimerical), concluding back to the reality in question to produce its illustrated point, as you precisely and accurately put, "Yin-Yang" Effect?I guess I didn't see enough of a stark difference to think so. Though if we begin to blur the lines between fantastical and Romantic, or just pure daydream (which is what I would consider this to be, just personified by an angel), I'm not sure where it will leave us other than confused over labels. And labels are for cans of peas :p
Nice list Doggie :yup: would have preferred if you had started with 100 and then counted down to 1 but still a nice list :yup:
Dog Star Man
02-06-11, 05:25 AM
Nice list Doggie :yup: would have preferred if you had started with 100 and then counted down to 1 but still a nice list :yup:
Yeah, sorry about that. I got too far into the list to reverse the order, so I didn't want to change it. However, I'm glad you enjoyed my list all the same! :D
Harry Lime
02-06-11, 05:58 AM
Nice list Dog Star Man. We have somewhat similar taste in film so I'll have to check out the ones I haven't seen yet from your list.
Dog Star Man
02-06-11, 07:05 AM
Nice list Dog Star Man. We have somewhat similar taste in film so I'll have to check out the ones I haven't seen yet from your list.
Thank you very much kind gentleman. I was discussing with W.T. that if I wanted to make a more "accurate" list it would have to range, more or less, in the thousand category. The limitations of a "Top One Hundred" seems daunting, if not completely unfair all together. I find this to be the case because:
1. I try to find movies that I like that are historically important. Though that may sound pretentious a bit, I literally, (like most people on here I assume), eat, breath, sweat, bleed film. In fact, when I'm depressed, the first sign that I'm in a depression as it were is that I stop talking about film, (which is 99% of what I talk about all day long). Much like Kurosawa, "If you remove film from my being, there is no me." I digress. I adore film history. So, without hesitation I would incorporate films like The Edison-Dickson: Experimental Sound Film, or to go further, Monkeyshines no. 1 and no. 2, or even further, The Eadweard Muybridge: Series Photography. I love all of these things with my heart and soul. "God" did not create me, I don't believe, film did. So to see it in it's infancy is so exhilarating to me.
Also, how can I incorporate other things in the list that deal with this history perspective? Film movements, (Expressionism; Impressionism; Soviet Montage; Dada; Surrealism; Cinema Pur; City Symphonies; French Poetic Realism; Italian Neo-Realism, or their earlier Superspectacles; Film Noir; French, Italian, German New Waves, etc.; New Hollywood; Dogme 9; etc. etc.). Or countless directorial influences, actors, cinematographers, producers, etc. This all means so much to me I can't even begin.
2. After History comes Theory and Criticism, which makes me look at films in a certain aesthetical way which somehow makes me adore films I might otherwise disregard had I not looked through a different lens.
3. Then its all personal. What films do I like in general, no matter what the history or the aesthetical theory or critique behind them.
Again, this list was mostly for fun on my part, but I cannot begin to say how unfair it is when there are so many more films I appreciate or enjoy on one level or another. I want to make films, that's my work, but my life is in films all together, in its histories, theories, criticisms, personalities, everything. I say this will all honesty and intent, but I'd rather not live if the world rid itself of film. Film is my pagan religion with many directorial Gods above producing the joys I take for granted every single day I'm on this Earth.
MovieMad16
02-06-11, 08:15 AM
your top 2 choices are what i would have picked, although Godfather would be one
planet news
02-06-11, 02:39 PM
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72. Xala
I just saw this in my African film class along with Sembene's Borom Sarret and La Noire De... They are fascinating films in how basically every line is can be taken as some sort of metaphorical commentary on post-colonial Senegal.
Dog Star Man
02-06-11, 02:47 PM
I just saw this in my African film class along with Sembene's Borom Sarret and La Noire De... They are fascinating films in how basically every line is can be taken as some sort of metaphorical commentary on post-colonial Senegal.
Xala, much like most African and/or Third Cinema, is quite astounding. One of the reasons I put it on my list outside of liking it is because it is a Third Cinema film, much of it provides amazing allegorical commentary on their political culture. There are these kinds of cinema's the world over, but in the Third World, it takes precedent over most aspects of film making. This seems largely in due to the political fever of these nations who wish for strong, if not radical, change. Glad you seem to enjoy them as much as I do.
TheUsualSuspect
02-06-11, 02:51 PM
The only two I would really disagree with would be Rushmore and Eraserhead.
Good list mate.
Dog Star Man
02-06-11, 03:09 PM
The only two I would really disagree with would be Rushmore and Eraserhead.
Good list mate.
Rushmore scores points with me because it is very aesthetically "punkish", (through British New Wave music and very direct composition), even though its central characters and settings, for the most part, do not exhibit this characteristics. To me, Anderson provides a dialectical example of what can be utilized in film to create this kind of synthesis. But we all have our own tastes of what works and what doesn't in this regard I suppose.
Eraserhead, to me, is Lynch's best film. House maybe my church, but Eraserhead is its cult. I am a big fan of aesthetical stillness in film. One example of this is the Masha sequence in Ivan's Childhood. Or perhaps 2001 all together. To me, if a director can pull off this kind of "meditative" stillness, without losing interest of the viewer, they are doing something that few other, lesser, film makers can pull off. How Lynch achieves this is through auditorial composition, rather than visual composition, much of which is dark and abstract. But again, to each his own my good friend. I'm glad you enjoyed my list!
Brodinski
02-08-11, 10:14 AM
Nice list. I do have one question: why do you like Pat Garrett & Billy The Kid so much? I guess what drew you in was the film's beauty and dreamlike feel mixed with Bob Dylan's soundtrack. Am I about accurate there?
I remember one scene I loved, which was the scene where some guy is stumbling towards a stream after being fatally injured in a gunfight. It's like he's walking towards the end of his life while also symbolizing the end of the outlaw era, a theme that runs through Pat Garrett and Billie The Kid.
It's not that I disliked it, I just think Peckinpah has made films that are far superior.
Dog Star Man
02-08-11, 06:15 PM
Nice list. I do have one question: why do you like Pat Garrett & Billy The Kid so much? I guess what drew you in was the film's beauty and dreamlike feel mixed with Bob Dylan's soundtrack. Am I about accurate there?
I remember one scene I loved, which was the scene where some guy is stumbling towards a stream after being fatally injured in a gunfight. It's like he's walking towards the end of his life while also symbolizing the end of the outlaw era, a theme that runs through Pat Garrett and Billie The Kid.
It's not that I disliked it, I just think Peckinpah has made films that are far superior.
Your pretty much spot on. To me, Patt Garrett and Billy the Kid is the most beautiful of Peckinpah's westerns. The scene you mentioned I believe is one that I recall to be Peckinpah's finest moments. Where Slim Pickens looks off to the sunset, just sitting down, waiting on his own death. Giving his companion a loving look before he passes on. The film seems to have this kind of feel throughout, especially at the end. That's why I enjoy it so much.
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