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Powdered Water
10-22-09, 12:22 AM
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Lucky week number 7! Or it will be for at least half of us, heh. The view from the middle of the pack is so much brighter than down at the bottom. In a way I'm Ok with getting all my losing out of the way early in the year. Now I can really go out with a BANG! Or not, who knows. Football is a funny game. Can't wait till this Sunday so we can do it all over again. How about you?

On a dimmer note PW had his first losing week on the prognostication side of things. A paltry 3-4 and now 27-15 on the year but hey! Whatareyougonnado? My freakin' team scored 216 points so I'm willing to let that slide. And also, team Tater got their first win as well so good for them! It's the little things yeah?

Better news perhaps for the Odd Squad in their climb back into this race is the fact 4 of the teams directly above me are playing each other this week so as long as my boys can continue their winning ways I may be able to climb a wee bit higher. Dig it.

A lot of good games this week so lets get to it.

PW's Odd Squad vs. DaBears

It would seem likely that after my team's ridiculous point total from a week ago that the boys could very easily go onto struggle this week. Ray Rice (the next purple jesus) is on a bye and Thomas Jones couldn't possibly have a better week than he did last week. On the flipside though Anquan Boldin may miss this weeks game or be severely limited, so that's good news for Fitzy and my crew. Brady and Welker appear to be working out the kinks as well and, annnnd it's not humanly possible for Steve Smith to have a one catch, 4 yard performance again. Is it? I don't think so. Not to mention my secret weapon Tashard Choice who is the best running back on the Dallas team right now so who knows? I do know that Mikeython's Bears have a nice little 2 game winning streak of their own going so this is no gimme.

My pick: Odd Squad, porkchops taste gooood, bacon tastes gooood.

11 Angry Men vs. TONGO

Now that the Angry Men have re-found their anger it would not be a good week to tangle with them methinks. TONGO has that honor this week and this could get ugly early. Even in defeat last week the Angry Men still put up a huge score for the week and I see no reason to think that won't continue especially since the Angry Men get their star TE back. TONGO continues to tinker with his lineup and just can't seem to find a combination he can live with for more than 5 minutes.

My pick: 11 Angry Men, don't worry be happy!

Hired Goons vs. Flash

Interesting game. I think Yahoo has this one pegged, maybe even a little too close. Those Colts get those hideous Rams this Sunday and once again Manning may have a monster day although he may have such a monster day that he may only play the first half but if that's the case then Flash will definitely be in good shape.

My pick: Flash, straight up!

Gadsden Flag vs. The Taterators

Another interesting game. And a very important game for Gadsden if he wants to keep pace with the surging Odd Squad. The current purple jesus gets the unenviable task of going to Pittsburgh to face Troy and the Steeler D. Even with one of Pittsburgh's key D-lineman out they are still a very good unit and as last week showed they are a completely different defense when Troy is in there. All Day is going to be seeing a lot of Troy on Sunday and although there's no way Jay can sit him, he's probably not going to have a huge day from him. Which will open the door for Tater, just a smidgen, but it will open nonetheless. If his two Cinncy wide outs can have a decent day he may sneak in there and steal this one.

My pick: Taters, can you say winning streak?

Team Darcy vs. The Replicants

Team Darcy, still steaming from her first loss of the season gets the 'Bots this week who got back in the saddle last week and look primed to hand Team Darcy their second straight loss. And with poor Team Darcy having to start Jake Delhomme at QB this week she may be in for a long day. Maybe not though, he's bound to find Smith down field one of these days, isn't he? The Replicants certainly hope not. One things for sure though Fred Taylor isn't going to be playing for New England so you need to drop him Darcy, I don't know why he's not on the IR but he's supposed to be done for the year. Its win win for me no matter who wins this game but Seds has a definite edge in the matchup department.

My pick: 'Bots (I can't think of anything funny or interesting to say for you this week... sorry)

Wolverines vs. Slug's Sweeties

After Sluggo's performance on Sunday he's spent most of this week tip toeing around the house and trying to avoid the stare, You married guys know the one. This is another game that is a win win for PW because somebody has to lose and as long as my boys do their part, I can be tied with whoever drops this very evenly matched and excellent game. Yahoo has these two teams separated by just 2 points right now! And it could very well come down to Westbrook needing 15 to 20 points on Monday night to try and seal the deal for the Sweeties. Westbrook has the Redskins, I say he gets it.

My pick: Slug's Sweeties. Honey? Can you turn the heat back on?

Beantown Champs vs. I-L-M-F

Could be a good game. Bobby will probably pop in and put some of his regulars in before Sunday. Maybe he'll even put in some of his bench guys who appear to be a good deal better than his starters... uh Brent Celek Bobby? I just don't think it will be enough though. Beantown gets Gore back and has the NFL's leading receiver in Hines Ward if you can believe that and he should get some serious work in on Sunday at home against a Vikings team that is ripe for a loss.

My pick: Beantown, plugs the holes in the boat and keeps on a floatin'

So there you go once again guys and gals. Take care and remember. If you ain't tradin' you ain't playin'. Eh Tongo? Eh?

TONGO
10-22-09, 12:46 AM
Fantasy Football rocks. Im daydreaming about next year, and Ill be super cool then with a steady strong roster. I might trade, but only once or twice :)

I wake from my daydream, realize with all my enthusiasm Im 1-5, and it tastes like one of those blu chip thingys put in public urinals. :sick:

Now that Brady is finally emerging, will emerge even more vs Tampa Bay, and I think of when I traded him away. Reality is I dont think I ever would have felt comfortable with Brady. Ever. I cant stand the Patriots, and their hyper bionic machine scoring running up points etc... I do regret losing Correll Buckhalter. Damn you PW! Damn youze!! :mad: I want my Buck back!!!

When our teams meet on week 13 the last face youll remember seeing before crying yourself to sleep is this one...
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Yoda
10-22-09, 01:06 AM
You remember how bad I felt about my chances last week? Well, that's about as good as I feel about them this week. A tad worried about the odd player here or there, but to be completely honest, I'm expecting a big win, and I think I've got a very good shot at taking sole posession of first place (none of this points tiebreaker stuff) this week. Let's get it on!

Before the getting on commences, I do have a lineup decision or two to make. Hightower's got a rough matchup, and I can make a pretty good case for playing Miles Austin (who's now a starter for Dallas), or Laurence Maroney (who gets to play the hapless Buccaneers). I feel pretty decent about all three, though, so I'll have to ponder things a bit further.

upStomp
10-22-09, 08:51 AM
Great writeup, PW - sans your pick against me, of course ;). Jesus has looked more like just an apostle lately, but I'm hopeful that my new NYG WR duo will pick up the slack.

Sedai
10-22-09, 10:27 AM
Well now... Another fun writeup to read as I sip my coffee on a Thursday morning. I agree with most of the picks, but one should be careful when weighing his defenses against AP. Remember the big Chicago game...was it last year? Urlacher and the rest of the Chicago squad were supposed to shut down ol' AP, but he blew them up and had over 300+ yards of total offense against their top tier defensive unit. It seems like AP puts extra effort in against the tougher squads for some reason.

I am the one that should be worried, what with my first round pick and elite WR on a bye. McNabb will need to shed his mediocre performance from last week and fire some deep TDs FTW!

EEK - I just noticed I am a mere 6 posts away from cracking 9,000... That's crazy!

Yoda
10-22-09, 01:11 PM
Only three more posts now. Insanity! Chaos reigns!

Still undecided on the Maroney/Hightower/M. Austin flex spot choice (advice always welcome, even from everyone trying to destroy me! :)). Normally it'd be Hightower fairly easily, but Arizona's up against the Giants, Maroney's up against the Bucs, and I feel like not starting Austin after he put up 250 yards receiving in his previous game is just inviting a chorus of "duh"s on Sunday.

Unrelated: since our regular season is 13 games this year, there is no perfect half-way point, but I think after this week I'll do a quick little write-up of some of the goings-on so far. Always fun to peruse the rosters and scoring totals and see who's boomed, busted, etc.

Sedai
10-22-09, 01:25 PM
Sounds fun! Hopefully I won't have to come to the office this Sunday to prepare catalog proofs, and I can hang out all day in the chat...

One more to go!!!! ;)

Sedai
10-22-09, 03:13 PM
For my 9,000th post, I would just like to predict the following:

Eli Manning - 300 Passing Yards - 3 TDS - 1 INT

Brett Favre - 190 Passing Yards - 1 TD - 3 INT

WBadger
10-22-09, 04:20 PM
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Still undecided on the Maroney/Hightower/M. Austin flex spot choice [quote]

So you're the one that stole Maroney from me. http://www.nohomers.net/images/smilies/hulk.gif

Sedai
10-22-09, 05:15 PM
I had a claim in on him, too...

Piledriver
10-22-09, 05:24 PM
Only three more posts now. Insanity! Chaos reigns!

Still undecided on the Maroney/Hightower/M. Austin flex spot choice (advice always welcome, even from everyone trying to destroy me! :)). Normally it'd be Hightower fairly easily, but Arizona's up against the Giants, Maroney's up against the Bucs, and I feel like not starting Austin after he put up 250 yards receiving in his previous game is just inviting a chorus of "duh"s on Sunday.

Unrelated: since our regular season is 13 games this year, there is no perfect half-way point, but I think after this week I'll do a quick little write-up of some of the goings-on so far. Always fun to peruse the rosters and scoring totals and see who's boomed, busted, etc.

Well heres how I look at it. The Pats are facing the Bucs in Merry 'Ol England and are coming off a HUGE offensive game. Big Bill knows he has to get his running game established and working because its been a cause for concern this year and now would be a good time to get it rolling against the lowly Succaneers, so I'd have to say Maroney should see as much work as he can handle and I see no reason he shouldn't get the ball more this week than last, so I think he'd be a safe option. I personally am not a fan of Maroney what-so-ever and think he should be traded asap, but I'd start him if I had him this weekend.
Austin is gonna start this weekend in the 2 slot for Dallas, and will probably be the 3rd or 4th read for Romo on most offensive downs. Witten will more than likely get the most looks and Barber/Choice/Jones will get their share of the ball. I don't think Myles will fool anyone this weekend, so he won't be as free as last weekend, and the Atlanta D isn't that bad, so this should be a tougher game offensively for the Cowboys. All that and more considered, I'd say Maroney over Austin.
Whatever way you go, I'm sure you'll be fine, neither choice would be bad. :up:

TONGO
10-22-09, 05:58 PM
For my 9,000th post, I would just like to predict the following:

Eli Manning - 300 Passing Yards - 3 TDS - 1 INT

Brett Favre - 190 Passing Yards - 1 TD - 3 INT


Thats Brett Favre with the Jets youre talking about. Minnesota Favre will humble the Steelers. Hes never had such a talented roster surroundiong him in all of his career, and that includes the Super Bowl Champ Packers.

The biggest denominator for me trading Eli away is hes never finished a game since the plantar fascia, and Favre surpassed Eli in fantasy points on a weekend he faced the Ravens. He'll always start, play, finish, and mostly perform no matter what.

Darren Sproles! now thats a talented RB, and maybe San Diego will wake up and use 2 RBs instead of the predictable one in L.T. Rather had Fred Jackson but both seem to be background players now if you get right down to it. No difference whatsoever.

Mock me if you will in my trading decisions, there have been some doozies, but my team is stronfger than if I had Brady, Roddy White, and nobody else of worth but the Ravens on my roster like on draft day. The rub is its taken too long to construct, but Ill finish strong. You'll see! ;)

upStomp
10-22-09, 06:01 PM
I'm pretty sure most of us had Maroney on our wish list.

Yoda
10-22-09, 06:19 PM
Aye. I had something like the 3rd waiver priority, and Mikey, one of the two owners ahead of me, took Jermichael Finley.

I'm actually not entirely sure it was a good move on my part, because I don't know if I'll have too many opportunities to use Maroney, and I had to use a pretty high priority on him. His matchup with Tampa Bay swayed me (even though I might not play him), and I think we're late enough in the season that having a high waiver priority probably matters a bit less than it did earlier, when so many playing time situations had yet to settle. But we'll see. :) Still only takes one big injury to the right player to create another scramble.

upStomp
10-22-09, 06:32 PM
Same here - Maroney was 3rd on my priority. Luckily I got my priority 1 player :).

WBadger
10-22-09, 10:46 PM
Yeah, I know. I just haven't been having very good luck with picking up and trading players.

TONGO
10-22-09, 10:47 PM
Tampa could keep themselves from getting blown out, and if possible run the ball down New Englands throat with Ward & Caddy. Why not?! Its better than Josh Johnson throwing interceptions, and theyd lose but by not as much because theyd control the ball longer. Youre not gonna beat the Patriots, but that way they could leave the field with their heads higher than the poor Titans did. By the way the Patriots really suck.

7thson
10-22-09, 10:55 PM
Austin looks good, but he sure reminds me of Atlas. Can he hold the torch, or does he drop it? I for one think he will fall somewhere in the middle, which in the long run is still great FF points.

upStomp
10-22-09, 11:06 PM
By the way the Patriots really suck.

At what? Bowling? :D

7thson
10-22-09, 11:35 PM
Nice writeup as usual PW - I hope my dismal performance this season does not prevent me from being part of this league next year, but I ain't done yet..;)

Piledriver
10-25-09, 11:35 AM
WooHoo Week 7!! The halfway point is here and everyone is fighting for 6 playoff spots and its anyones guess on who will still be playing in Week 14. With teams still trying to fortify their rosters and balance their bye weeks, every game means something and crunchtime is setting in. This should be a great weekend for football and I'm looking forward to watching the Week 7 slugfests starting at 1pm. Without further ado, here are the 'Champs picks at the halfway point:

Wolverines vs. Slug's Sweeties -
A match-up of potential playoff makers, these two 4-2 teams are clawing and scratching their way to victories and not caring who they wreak in their way. Both QBs are facing decent defenses and neither has an advantage there, while Wolverines has the upperhand in the WR slots and I think the Sweeties has the edge in the RB positions (although only slightly). While neither player in the TE slots looks dominating I think the win will come based on the W/R slot and Defense points and LTIZZY has the edges in both. This game may be decided by a point or two but I think the Wolverines has the advantage.

Wolverines edge the Sweeties thanks to the Jets using the Raiders like toilet paper

Team Darcy vs. The Replicants -
Bye weeks just plan suck and I hate losing with scrubs in my starting positions and I think Darcy may fall victim to “Byeweekitus”. Having to start Cambell, for any reason, is just plain harsh and it doesn't look like he is gonna help Darcy's cause this week, or any week for that matter. She needs big games from Reggie Wayne and Michael Turner and strong showings from the rest of her squad to stay in this game against the 'Bots. He is sweating it having MJD and Moreno on byes, and Ronnie Brown facing the Saints isn't making things easier for him, but he has the edge in most of the key positions and McNobb should have a much better game this week against the Redskins than he did against the Raiders, but I assumed he would blowup on Oakland and look how that went. This game will be fun to watch and both teams have potential to take a victory from the other, so I expect this one to be settled after Monday nights headsup QB fight.

The Replicants get their 5th win at Darcys dismay

Gadsden Flag vs. The Tateraters -
This game has “Men against Boys” potential and could get really ugly, really fast. Although Taters has the upperhand slightly in the WR positions (playing 2 WRs from the same team tends to screw one over) and both QBs going up against tough matchups, this game should be decided by the runningbacks and Gadsden has that locked up tighter than a frogs ass. “All-Day” is facing one of the best defenses in the league but he is the best back in the NFL and I'm sure will find ways to make the Flag some points. Barber is splitting time but he too should produce fair numbers this weekend along with Stewart and his “Field Day” potential going up against the Bills and their 83rd ranked rushing D. The Taters have a chance at upsetting Flag if they can get a big day from Ryan Grant, Kevin Faulk and Ben Watson, but have a huge uphill battle in front of them even if those 3 blowup. It doesn't look good for the Tateraters, but as always, anything can happen on any given Sunday. Good Luck Spud.

Gadsden Flag begins the push for the playoffs this week with a thunderous victory heard all the way here at my house

Hired Goons vs. Flash -
This looks like another close game and could go either way at every position. Both Quarterbacks could have huge games with Rodgers facing a horrid Cleveland defensive front and even worse d-backs, he may rack up tremendous numbers, ala Brees last week against the Giants. Flash needs Manning to counter anything Rodgers does with a flawless game against the lowly Rams and he shouldn't be disappointed. Manning should come close to Brady's performance from last week, and has the potential to eclipse that score. Neither team has any real advantage at the remainder of the positions and the game can't end in a tie, so I guess I'll have to flip another coin to decide the winner. Goons tails, Flash heads ...*flip*....

Tails it is.

Da Bears vs. PW's Odd Squad -
The Squad is still glowing from last weeks big win and is looking to continue his climb up the playoff ladder with a much needed victory against Da Bears. Brady has another (supposedly) easy matchup against the Succaneers and may attempt to go for 6 TDs in a quarter this weekend in London. Philip Rivers is no slouch either and he has the cupcake matchup against the cellar-dwelling Chiefs. Rivers will put up respectable numbers and should give Da Bears a chance to stay in this one, but he really needs his WRs to step it up and dominate in their games and his RBs need to overproduce to keep the numbers respectable with the Odd Squad, who looks posed to win back-to-back victories when its all said and done.

PW makes it a habit of winning again this week

11 Angry Men vs. TONGO -
Reeling from his first loss of the season, the Men look to redeem themselves at the expense of TONGOs always revolving/evolving line-up. Having traded away Brady and White (amongst many, many others), Tongo has an uphill battle this week trying to formulate the correct roster to match the Angry Mens juggernaut scoring machine. With Manning not 100% and Harvin questionable, he really needs his runningbacks to come up big. As in HUGE. Benson could have a big day versus his old team and may provide enough points to keep it interesting, but Lewis needs to overachieve against Green Bay and I don't find that very likely. Maybe San Fran's Defense will have a stellar afternoon and get a few sacks and several interceptions for a TD or 2, which is likely since their facing Houston, but I still don't think even that will help in the end. Good Luck TONGO, your really gonna need it this week.

11 Angry Men brushes off last weeks loss with a HUGE week 7

Beantown Champs vs. I-L-M-F -
Well the Champs somehow found a way to beat the Wolverines last week and got back into the winners bracket a week early, by my calculations anyway, without the help of Frank Gore and now I get him back this week, which is hopefully good news for me and bad news for the Fox. I don't think this is as lopsided as Yahoo says, with Jacobs and Smith facing Arizona in a Superbowl rematch from 2008, and I believe Jacobs is gonna have a really good day to the tune of 22 points or so. I need Romo to not pick today to turn it around, facing Atlanta and my hommie Matt Ryan, whom I need to stay on pace and get me the typical 20 plus points he regularly achieves just to keep up with the Foxes squad. Maybe Ricky Williams will fail a drug test just before kickoff and make today less stressful for me. Come on Ricky, smoke up!!

Beantown “Gores” the Fox for a win

Those are my picks and I'm sticking to 'em. Good Luck Y'All!!!!

TONGO
10-25-09, 11:56 AM
Just for everyones information my team is better than when I had Brady

Draft Day TONGO

QB Tom Brady or Brett Favre
WR Roddy White
WR Carolinas Steve Smith
RB Lendale White I was stoned.
RB Jonathan Stewart
WR Torry Holt or Nate Burleson. Believe it or not I had Miles Austin on draft day too.
TE Visanthe Shiancoe
K Nate Kaeding
Def Baltimore Ravens

So the draft day WR corps was impressive to look at, BUT Steve Smith has yet to emerge, Miles Austin just has, and Torry Holt is ok. Everyone remember Tom Brady weeks 1-4?! Very disappointing. So in retrospect my top 3 WRs would have been Burleson, White (another slow start), and Holt

TONGO today...

QB Eli Manning or Brett Favre Bretts the only player left on my team from Draft Day
WR Derrick Mason
WR Nate Burleson I dropped him, and just traded Steve Smith for him back
RB Cedric Benson
RB Jamal Lewis
WR Percy Harvin or Johnny Knox
TE Heath Miller
K Matt Prater
Def Denver Broncos

So which team would you rather have?

Powdered Water
10-25-09, 12:13 PM
It's Sunday.

Powdered Water
10-25-09, 12:27 PM
Nice writeup as usual PW - I hope my dismal performance this season does not prevent me from being part of this league next year, but I ain't done yet..;)

Of course it won't. And there's still a lot of time left. Most of us from last year knew going in that this was going to be an extremely competitive league. And you and a few of the other new owners are finding that out. If you don't mind a small suggestion for next year. Let Yahoo's rankings factor in a little more in your draft. You'll end up with a little more solid core group to start with and its then a little easier to make changes as the season goes on. Even if you're drafting live you can still follow the Yahoo rankings for the most part. But they are a very solid resource to aid you in the draft.

TONGO
10-25-09, 12:29 PM
PWs right. If I did it all over again I would have just done Autopick.

7thson
10-25-09, 12:40 PM
Let Yahoo's rankings factor in a little more in your draft. You'll end up with a little more solid core group to start with and its then a little easier to make changes as the season goes on. Even if you're drafting live you can still follow the Yahoo rankings for the most part. But they are a very solid resource to aid you in the draft.

Yeah my problem was I missed the flippin' draft and screwed the pooch, thats what I get for "knowing" I was gonna be there.



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Powdered Water
10-25-09, 12:56 PM
Yeah, I hear ya. I ended up having to work during the draft last year so I auto drafted and I didn't mess with my pre draft rankings at all. I ended with a pretty decent team after the draft. Which I then began to deconstruct and change until I was happy with it. I made it to the MoFo bowl last year and I cut both Roddy White and Matt Forte early in the season, so its not an exact science.

Sedai
10-25-09, 01:05 PM
I think Darcy will smash me this week. I have scrubs playing this week, to, Petey! ;) MoJo is playing Madden this week...

Powdered Water
10-25-09, 01:12 PM
Did you get out of work Mike? Hope so. Good luck!

LTIZZY
10-25-09, 01:17 PM
May we all have a victorious Sunday :)
Come on Wolverines!!! Let's get it on peeps :yup:

Powdered Water
10-25-09, 01:47 PM
Looks like I get to see the Pittsburgh/Minnesota game today. Coolio.

Piledriver
10-25-09, 02:05 PM
Just for everyones information my team is better than when I had Brady

Draft Day TONGO

QB Tom Brady or Brett Favre
WR Roddy White
WR Carolinas Steve Smith
RB Lendale White I was stoned.
RB Jonathan Stewart
WR Torry Holt or Nate Burleson. Believe it or not I had Miles Austin on draft day too.
TE Visanthe Shiancoe
K Nate Kaeding
Def Baltimore Ravens

So the draft day WR corps was impressive to look at, BUT Steve Smith has yet to emerge, Miles Austin just has, and Torry Holt is ok. So in retrospect my top 3 WRs would have been Burleson, White (another slow start), and Holt

TONGO today...

QB Eli Manning or Brett Favre Bretts the only player left on my team from Draft Day
WR Derrick Mason
WR Nate Burleson I dropped him, and just traded Steve Smith for him back
RB Cedric Benson
RB Jamal Lewis
WR Percy Harvin or Johnny Knox
TE Heath Miller
K Matt Prater
Def Denver Broncos

So which team would you rather have?

Well I'm sorry, but your draft day team was much better. I know you hate all things Patriots and that includes Brady, but he would've made your team MUCH better than it is today. Other than the additions of Benson and Mason, your team is weaker at nearly every position/slot. Read my post on "basic FFL guidelines" and maybe that'll help you next year, but you really screwed the pooch on making the playoffs this season and will have an uphill battle to break.500 on the season unless you get some lucky breaks. For someone who hates New England, I'm surprised you drafted Brady that high when you didn't want him. I know he makes great trade bait, but no one who knows FFL makes trades that big before week 5 unless someone had a season ending injury or they are trading apples for apples. You constantly send me and others in the league lopsided trades to the tune of trying to get a 2009 Mercedes 550 for a 83 Corolla with 312,000 miles on it and I can't see how you think thats fair? For example, today you sent a trade to me (that lasted 120 seconds by the way) for Eli Manning and San Frans Defense in exchange for Chad Henne and Reggie Bush. If you had read my FFL guidelines post, you'd know I hold Defenses and Kickers about as high a priority as a used jockstrap and you either made that trade offer because A.) you are trying to capitalize on people who are weaker in knowledge of the game or B.) you simply don't understand what FFL is all about. Either way, I think it behooves you to calm down on the waiver wire/trading block and let your team perform. If you did that in the beginning, you wouldn't of had to trade to get back Burleson and you would probably be 3-3 right now (at least).
Just so its out in the open, I too vetoed that trade from the other day because it would've created a major power shift in the league and I'm not too keen on playing stacked teams in the next few weeks while fighting to make the playoffs. I'm sorry if you don't see that as a problem, but it is, and thats why it was vetoed, not because of personal issues. ;)

Yoda
10-25-09, 02:23 PM
Just for everyones information my team is better than when I had Brady

Draft Day TONGO

QB Tom Brady or Brett Favre
WR Roddy White
WR Carolinas Steve Smith
RB Lendale White I was stoned.
RB Jonathan Stewart
WR Torry Holt or Nate Burleson. Believe it or not I had Miles Austin on draft day too.
TE Visanthe Shiancoe
K Nate Kaeding
Def Baltimore Ravens

So the draft day WR corps was impressive to look at, BUT Steve Smith has yet to emerge, Miles Austin just has, and Torry Holt is ok. Everyone remember Tom Brady weeks 1-4?! Very disappointing. So in retrospect my top 3 WRs would have been Burleson, White (another slow start), and Holt

TONGO today...

QB Eli Manning or Brett Favre Bretts the only player left on my team from Draft Day
WR Derrick Mason
WR Nate Burleson I dropped him, and just traded Steve Smith for him back
RB Cedric Benson
RB Jamal Lewis
WR Percy Harvin or Johnny Knox
TE Heath Miller
K Matt Prater
Def Denver Broncos

So which team would you rather have?
I definitely prefer the former team. The only upgrade between then and now is RB, and I wouldn't say it's a huge one, with Stewart coming into his own lately. Steve Smith has been a huge disappointment, but Roddy White, even struggling early, is top ten in points among WRs. Brady's #2 among QBs. Those two facts alone definitely make up for the Stewart/Benson gap.

You drafted fine, and it would have been better than fine if Smith hadn't so unexpectedly sucked (impossible to predict, though we'll see if that continues). I don't think there was anything wrong with your draft at all. If you'd kept Brady you definitely would have won last week, and probably the week before when R. White put up like 40 points, so I think you'd probably be about 3-3.

TONGO
10-25-09, 03:44 PM
You constantly send me and others in the league lopsided trades to the tune of trying to get a 2009 Mercedes 550 for a 83 Corolla with 312,000 miles on it and I can't see how you think thats fair? For example, today you sent a trade to me (that lasted 120 seconds by the way) for Eli Manning and San Frans Defense in exchange for Chad Henne and Reggie Bush. If you had read my FFL guidelines post, you'd know I hold Defenses and Kickers about as high a priority as a used jockstrap and you either made that trade offer because A.) you are trying to capitalize on people who are weaker in knowledge of the game or B.) you simply don't understand what FFL is all about. Either way, I think it behooves you to calm down on the waiver wire/trading block and let your team perform.

Appreciate the advice, but I never try and send a trade thats unfair. Elis better than Henne by alot, and thought Bush would even the gap. No creftiness involved there, and San Fran I was offering just because. Not that I thought they were a draw but they do have more points than your Defense. Preying on weak players? Dude if you saw the offers Ive given to people in trades (moreso the past month cause in the beginning I didnt know the value of a RB) then you wouldnt have considered that.

The trade shouldnt have been vetoed, and I know 5 people disagree strongly on this. Some people disagree strongly otherwise though, and their opinion doesnt seem to be of any concern here. I advised Darcy to play Sproles over Fargas vs the Jets, and he may score more than Jamal Lewis. I was screwed out of the difference of those points, and she was screwed out of the point difference between Manning and Campbell.

The fact that Eli Manning is worth more than Sproles was the excuse necessary to veto it. The real reason is people protecting their own interests, and the vote should not be used for that reason. Shift in power from the league?! LOL! Hardly. Eli didnt even finish the New Orleans game, hardly practices. Sproles may become part of the running game again as a duo with L.T. if he doesnt put it together. Honestly guys those facts didnt enter anyones thinking when voting against the trade as much as not wanting Team Darcy to get a QB. Being annoyed by me could be another factor.

Protecting my interests and making trades more fair was not the reason for everyone. If it was that Vernon Davis Edgerin James trade wouldnt have come off. Bottom line - If Sprioles scores more than Jamal Lewis today, and Eli scores more than Campbell for Darcy then all of you owe both of us a apology. Thats just fact, and wiser people can be wrong.

TONGO
10-25-09, 05:37 PM
Darren Sproles just scored 18.90 points! Is there any advice youre wanting to give me right now guys?! *&%#@!!! If Im sending a trade offer let it ride cause I aint screwing anyone - PERIOD!

Yoda
10-25-09, 06:01 PM
You need to stop saying things about people protecting their own interests; that's a pretty serious accusation, and I've already explained why it makes no sense. Manning is clearly a better play, and because the trade didn't go through, now I have to face him. I voted against a trade that would almost certainly benefit me.

And all this "screwed out of points" stuff is ridiculous. These are the rules of the league. They've been the rules the entire time. Every league has rules at least somewhat like this. You might not like the result, but that doesn't give you the right to pretend it's unfair, or illegal, or make serious accusations about people who have been nothing but friendly and honest to you all year.

And no, nobody owes you an apology if one group of players score more than another in a single week. You may have a propensity to draw broad conclusions based on whatever happens in a single week, but that's not how to judge these things.

You should really be careful about what you say. I'll brush a lot of things off when people apologize and retract or get caught up in the moment, but only to a certain point.

Piledriver
10-25-09, 07:00 PM
Darren Sproles just scored 18.90 points! Is there any advice youre wanting to give me right now guys?! *&%#@!!! If Im sending a trade offer let it ride cause I aint screwing anyone - PERIOD!

Your not getting it dude. No one is trying to screw you out of anything and no one has a vendetta against you. Basically here it is in a nutshell:
A Quarterback will make more points over an ENTIRE SEASON than a typical Runningback, especially one that is sharing carries with someone else. What happens one week doesn't necessarily mean that will happen every week, for any player, and that has to be taken into consideration when making trades, etc... and what most of us realize is that Manning has much more potential or upswing than Sproles does over the length of the season, regardless of what he does in one particular week of the season. My intention wasn't to upset you by making the veto, I just knew that in the long run, that trade would've/could've been a major power shift and that is called "stacking", when one team dumps players to another so that the other team is completely "stacked" at the major positions which is against the rules. Think of it, would you want to see me trade Hines Ward, Frank Gore and Stephen Jackson to 11 Angry Men for Carolinas Defense, Laurence Maroney and Jerricho Cotchery? I would hope not. And maybe try the decaf next time.

TONGO
10-25-09, 08:18 PM
Well I cant argue Sproles would ever be worth more than Eli, but Ive little options in who to trade. I just want points! All my other positions are covered, but that blaring RB slot. I dont know what more to say.

:)Would it be ok for me to try and get Sproles with Eli? Please?!:)

Very well, sirs. You're… not only handsome, but a powerful group of men. I could see the second I walked in here, you all were someone to reckon with…

- Pretty Woman

spudracer
10-25-09, 10:08 PM
...I'm hopeful that my new NYG WR duo will pick up the slack.

So far, they're not doing much. Let's hear it for Ocho! I'm glad I held onto him.

WBadger
10-25-09, 10:11 PM
Another disappointing week for me...

It seems I have a collection of busts, and I'm not too happy about trading Thomas Jones early in my season.

7thson
10-25-09, 10:43 PM
Is there any advice youre wanting to give me right now guys?!


Grab a beer, be glad you are so tall and have talented hands, and tell me where in Fla' you are so someday we might be able to sit at a table in Hooters and eat some wings whilst watching the NFL and ogling (not googling) over the cute ladies. :)

upStomp
10-25-09, 11:04 PM
So far, they're not doing much. Let's hear it for Ocho! I'm glad I held onto him.

Ahem ;)

spudracer
10-25-09, 11:58 PM
Ahem ;)

Yeah, that's what I get for speaking too soon. It was a close one, this week.

TONGO
10-25-09, 11:59 PM
Grab a beer, be glad you are so tall and have talented hands, and tell me where in Fla' you are so someday we might be able to sit at a table in Hooters and eat some wings whilst watching the NFL and ogling (not googling) over the cute ladies. :)

Now that was the perfect response. Im in Bradenton btw. Where are you?

7thson
10-26-09, 12:08 AM
Pensacola, not too far, I used to live in Palmeto

TONGO
10-26-09, 12:24 AM
Yeah Palmetto is safe now compared to Bradenton. The gang activity in Bradenton has elevated to dangerous levels. Ive had cops tell me its much worse than Palmetto. Wow small world, and no wonder you broadened your horizons. Pensacola Id assume is less commercialized as going up to Gainseville or Tallahassee it gets outright country farmy. Yeah Dionne definitely PM me whenever youd like to try and hook up.

7thson
10-26-09, 12:45 AM
I was 12 or 13 when in Palmetto, had a friend named Wayne Drigger and his cousin named Penny (male). Wayne came to P'cola with me when we moved from there. He taught me how to use nun chucks and why it was important to treat women like women. He also taught me that chorizo is good with eggs, and older ladies are like a fine wine, yup the good ol' days.:)

upStomp
10-26-09, 08:40 AM
Yeah, that's what I get for speaking too soon. It was a close one, this week.

It definitely was, but we knew it would be. I was actually surprised that I was able to keep up during the 4:00 game.

Yoda
10-26-09, 02:09 PM
Crazy week, particularly for the Saints and, by association, me. Drew Brees had four turnovers but also three scores (two of them rushing!) and managed to salvage a 46-34 (!) win, as well as a decent fantasy day. M. Colston caught one score and nearly had three (!) others. Andre Johnson left the game with an apparent chest contusion (gah!), and Miles Austin had another ridiculous two-TD day, topping 170 yards in his very first game after the insane 250-yard performance he put up two weeks ago. I'm starting to think this dude's for real.

Elsewhere, Cedric Benson ran for an absurd 189 yards and a score for TONGO, edging Steve Slaton in the Battle of Guys Who Were Traded For Each Other, and taking out a little vengeance on his former team (who he took a shot at in the media this week, too). Jay pulled out a late-Sunday win over Spud thanks to Carson Palmer's 5-TD day, Brady and Welker hooked up for another double-TD-points score for PW, Seds got huge totals from his pass catchers to more than offset slow rushing numbers, Flash took home his second victory, and the LT/Slug matchup could end up featuring one of the lowest combined scores of the year when all's said and done.

Games still up in the air...


Wolverines (LTIZZY) vs. Slug's Sweeties (Slug)
LT's up by about 10 points, while Slug has Westbrook going tonight against Washington. Winner will be 5-2.

PW's Odd Squad (Powdered Water) vs. Da Bears (mikeython1)
PW leads by nearly 46, which is quite a bit, but Mikey's got DeSean Jackson, Clinton Portis, and the Philly defense all going tonight. Obviously those last two are at odds, a bit, but a win is very attainable here, and would be a pretty big upset given the numbers the Odd Squad have been putting up lately. Yahoo, by the by, projects the three plays to get about 37 combined.


All the other matchups are more or less settled, barring statistical miracles.

Powdered Water
10-26-09, 09:32 PM
Mike Tirico has a fly on his head. Fitting...

Powdered Water
10-26-09, 09:45 PM
Alreadya 12 point play from DeSean Jackson, gonna be a long night I think.

TONGO
10-26-09, 09:49 PM
Im having to watch Dancing With The Stars before I can pull away to the game AAAAAUUUUUUGH!

Yoda
10-26-09, 09:53 PM
Bad start with that crazy Jackson run. Is DeSean Jackson Mr. Big Play this year, or what?

Still might need a bit out of Portis, though, and a couple of turnovers out of the Philly D. Think it's still a toss-up, given the hedging between Portis and the D.

Yoda
10-27-09, 01:52 AM
Wow, what a crazy game. Mikey got the 46 he needed and a little extra (53 total) despite getting just 4.3 points out of C. Portis. D. Jackson ran for a 60+ yard TD and caught a 50+ yard score, as well, and the Philly defense tossed up 21 on the strength of 6 sacks, 3 fumble recoveries, and a defensive TD. Big win for mikey, and a tough loss for PW, who put up a pretty strong 132.52 points. Wrong place, wrong time, unfortunately.

The other matchup ended up being the bigger surprise, though, and Brian Westbrook failed to get Slug the 10 points he needed to overtake LT's Wolverines. In fact, he put up just 1.3 points and apparently left the game with a concussion. LT wins a very low scoring matchup, 77-68.

I'm checking now and...no, it's not the lowest combined score in league history, but given that we're awarding a full point per reception now, that'd have been crazy. It's the lowest combined score so far this year, however (and if anyone's curious, there were three matchups last year that were lower).