View Full Version : MoFo Fantasy Football '09 - Owner List, Rule Changes, & Draft Time
It's almost that time again, MoFos. MoFo Fantasy Football 2008 was a rousing success and crazy fun was had by all, so naturally, we're bringing it back again this year. UPDATE: Here are the 14 owners and their respective teams:
Powdered Water - PW's Odd Squad*
Sedai - The Replicants*
Yoda - 11 Angry Men*
TONGO - TONGO*
spudracer - The Tateraters
Piledriver - Beantown Champs*
7thson - Flash
Slug - Slug's Sweeties*
Mrs. Darcy - Team Darcy*
LTIZZY - Wolverines
mikeython1 - Da Bears
BobbyB - I-Love-Megan-Fox*
upStomp - Gadsden Flag
WBadger - Hired Goones
First thing's first: if you want to join in, we may still have room. If we can get two more, we can expand to 14 teams if necessary. But you'll have to confirm soon! See item #3 below.
That said, we have a few items on the agenda to nail down before the season starts:
The Draft Time
PW's free on Sundays, and most of us, I'm sure, would prefer a weekend anfternoon, anyway. Drafts are always more fun when more people are drafting live, so we want to find a time that works well for as many people as possible. I'd like to propose Sunday, August 23rd at 2:00 PM ET. Could everyone let me know if that date and time works well for them?
Rule Changes
We've already discussed these in the other thread (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=19538), and I think we have a broad consensus on what to change, so I'll simply list the two changes and anyone who has an objection can speak up:
First, that receptions will go from 0.5 points, to 1 point even.
Second, that interceptions thrown will go from -1 point, to -2 points.
That's about it. Other ideas have been tossed around, but those are the two that everyone seems to agree on. If anyone feels otherwise, have it out! :) Replying just to confirm that you agree is always nice, too, just to make sure we're all on the same page.
Additional Owners
We may have to revisit the issue of rule changes if we expand to 14 owners. If that happens (and happens quickly enough), we may have a quick discussion about whether or not to expand the playoffs, add a Bye week for top seeds, or otherwise alter the schedule to accomodate the two extra teams.
Teams can still join in late in the process, though; but if they do so, we probably won't have time to alter things and will need to stick with the original schedule/setup.
Anyway, if you're interested in playing, just reply here or drop me a private message (http://www.movieforums.com/community/private.php?do=newpm&u=1), and we'll see where we stand. :)
I hope you're all as excited as I am, MoFos. :)
Powdered Water
07-20-09, 08:25 PM
That is one freaky looking Yoda, dude...
Can we just go ahead and draft now? I already know who I want.
spudracer
07-21-09, 09:32 AM
Alright, I'm all signed up and ready to go. Go ahead and guess which team is mine. :D
Powdered Water
07-21-09, 09:37 PM
I'm in!!! I hope I win the car!
"There's no car Mr. Leonard. How long have you lived here?"
Powdered Water
07-21-09, 10:19 PM
I've been waiting for about ten years for someone to get that reference. :laugh:
Walken, man... He is The Man.
LOL! You think were ready?! This is like the 3rd Fantasy Football 09 thread weve opened and still were 6 weeks away! Oh its a sweet thing.
Ive got this horrid paranoia that the damned baseball fantasy team Ive done absolutely nothing with, and somehow maintains the #1 position in the league has drained my good karma! If I end up with the 08 version of Tom Brady Ill know Im doomed.
Brett Favre?! Who knows. Say what you will but he was sure $ last year. How about Kurt Warner eh?! Nobody could have seen super bowl in him again. Maybe the person that did the absolute worst last year will win this season. When its all said and done nobody can forsee the variables.
Bobby's created his team, which means all 12 teams are setup. :)
Just updated the first post in this thread with all the team names matched to each user.
Could you guys weigh in quickly on the proposed draft date and time (Sunday, August 22nd at 2:00 PM ET)? Work for you? Not work for you?
Any thoughts (positive or negative) on the proposed rule changes would be nice, too. I'm going to assume the changes are okay unless I hear otherwise, but it'd still be nice to make sure we're all on the same page. :) The draft time is the most important thing, though.
spudracer
07-27-09, 02:29 PM
The draft date and time works for me. That could change as the date gets closer, but as of right now, it's good. I'm good with the rules, too.
My Brother-in-law's brother, a very good friend of mine I have known for about 20 years, is looking to try out FFB this year. He asked if I knew of a friendly league he could join. Any slots still open? He would be an active player in the league, probably auto-drafting his team this first time round.
spudracer
07-27-09, 02:40 PM
The slots will have to be expanded to 14, but finding one more team shouldn't be hard.
Rick would probably be available to fill one again if needed, but I don't want to take all the slots up with my peeps!
Agreed; I'm cool with it. I'm sure we can find one more; I'll run it by my friend again, maybe, if I can squeeze some quasi-guarantee out of him that he'll be active this time.
Just drop me a line via PM on where to email the invite. :)
Ok - So Jay is all signed in to MoFo - Username upStomp
Can I use the email address he signed up under to send the invitation?
I would think it would work fine. Send him a PM if you like.
Nevermind; looks like he already found it and signed up! :)
Yeah - I also sent him the information! Let me know if you have a guy for the 14th slot!
Thanks again for setting all this up, once again. :)
Powdered Water
07-31-09, 09:42 PM
Will it be possible to establish the draft order maybe a few weeks before the draft? Or does Yahoo always just pick it at random a few moments before the draft. I'm wondering because I'm trying to formulate some strategies and most of them depend on when I will be picking.
Edit: I see Yahoo randomly picks it 30 minutes before. I wonder if all leagues are that way? Seems to me that if we're going to be doing this for the long haul then perhaps we'll need to find a service that allows us to draft according to last years finish and whatnot. What say you MoFo's?
Well, the draft is snaked, so that the last team in the first round is the first team in the second, so it wouldn't be tied to the previous year's record unless we ditched that draft type, or simply gave the lowest teams first choice of order.
I'm open-minded about the latter, but think we should rule out the former, for two reasons. One is that determining draft order by previous record is generally a means to help weaker teams improve, which isn't an issue unless we're using keepers. The second is that I think the nature of fantasy football is such that the advantage of drafting earlier in every single round would be a really massive advantage.
The idea of letting teams choose their order in a snaked draft, though, is interesting, not only because it's pretty hard to tell which position is genuinely the most advantageous. It would require finding another provider though, as you say, which means some of the perks of staying with Yahoo/having our history built into it would be lost. I'd guess we might need to pay for some kind of custom league elsewhere, but I'm not necessarily averse to that.
I'm trying to formulate a few strategies myself, but at the moment it's mostly just "if I'm in picks x-through-y, I'll do this sort of thing." It's starting to take shape, but yeah, there's going to be a lot of thinking on one's feet. It should be quite exciting. :)
Powdered Water
08-01-09, 09:56 PM
What do you think of keeper leagues? Have you tried it before? The idea sounds pretty intriguing to me.
All I know is that I am more excited about the draft than I have ever been about any game. :)
Oh, and I will be there on draft day for sure, even if I have to take a vacation day.
What do you think of keeper leagues? Have you tried it before? The idea sounds pretty intriguing to me.
Not in fantasy football (last year was my first year playing it in any form). I played in a semi-keeper league in baseball, where we all kept a handful of players (I believe it varied from 4 to 6 or 7). It has its ups and downs, but I have to say I didn't love it as much as I thought I would.
I'm open to the idea but I think it might be the kind of thing we'd have to do in addition to this league, rather than in place of it. A keeper league would make owner turnover a much bigger deal, make it a bit harder for newer MoFos to dive in, and it would obviously lessen the importance of draft day considerably. But the idea of thinking ahead a season or two when trading and signing certainly has its own intrigue.
Powdered Water
08-02-09, 02:35 PM
Good point. Maybe we'll kick this around some more during the year. I was thinking about possibly joining another league. I'd love to do it with a few others that I already know somewhat. I'm sure guys like Seds and maybe the Darcy's might be interested. I think it would be fun.
Aye, I have toyed with the idea of playing in more than one league, though I'll probably never be one of those guys who plays in three or four each year. But another league with a very different approach could be fun. I like the idea of the "main" league redrafting and being open to MoFos who come and go each year, though. Good way to get to know people quickly and all that, too. :)
LT and I are planning on popping down to the office and jumping on computers right next to one another in order to draft together! Looking forward to it!
Very cool, Seds. :) I'm certainly going to make a day of it.
By the by, I'll be seeing my friend Adam on Friday, so I should know by the weekend whether or not he'll have the time to become team #14. If not, Seds, either Rick or your brother-in-law's brother would certainly be welcome, provided either is still likely to be interested.
Pretty crazy to think we're gonna have 14 teams...10 is considered pretty standard. I'll have to adjust a lot of my pre-draft preparation accordingly.
WBadger
08-04-09, 03:23 PM
Dang, hopefully I'll be able to do this next year.
We prefer fellow MoFos over friends and relatives, WBadger, so if you've played fantasy football before, know the rules/strategy, etc., I think I speak for everyone when I say you'd be our first choice for the opening. :)
spudracer
08-04-09, 03:36 PM
:yup: :up:
WBadger
08-04-09, 03:45 PM
yeah, very familiar with fantasy football, i would be happy to join if there is an opening spot :).
also, through which site do you play fantasy football?
spudracer
08-04-09, 03:50 PM
It's through Yahoo.
Aye, Spud is correct. I can send you an invitation via email; is the address in your profile here the best place to send it to?
WBadger
08-04-09, 04:01 PM
here let me send you a private message of the address you should send it to
Stoked for the season to start god I love football!!! Now everyone tell me who your gonna pick LOL!!!! I only have eye's for a certain player and well a few others up my sleeve but, well let's all hope I get the man I want or it's gonna be a long season !!!! LOL
Just joking I've been looking at players and putting in some research time so I feel good about draft.......can't wait YAY FOOTBALL :)
spudracer
08-04-09, 04:23 PM
You're talking about Michael Vick, right? :D
BAH......that's a negative spudster :)
A lady never tells her first pick fo football :)
WBadger
08-04-09, 04:27 PM
aaron rodgers is mine, people, back off
Oh ok so I want to pick Aaron Rodgers first right Wbadger? LOL
Joking hehe.....nope not the man I want so backing off!!
Hello there too.....L to the Tizzy here nice to meet ya....you'll be super pleased on this gem of a site!!! I love it and learn lots on here :)
spudracer
08-04-09, 04:35 PM
BAH......that's a negative spudster :)
He's got promise this season, with being all well-rested and such. Not that I'd pick him or Favre, for that matter. I've got my list started, but it's nothing official. I'll go with whatever I get.
WBadger
08-04-09, 04:38 PM
michael vick didnt get signed, did he?
Oh Favre.....loved Favre !!!! He was out of place though while playing for the Jets....wait he did play for the Jets right ???? BOO I don't want to sound like a jerk and just say something wrong....for you all may not know this but, I'm right all the time!!!! LOL
No for real though I love seeing players that have made it so far age wise, it's inspiring!!!!
Oh and he was great in those Wrangler commercial.....ah oh I mean great quarter back!!
WBadger
08-04-09, 04:42 PM
Throwaway year for Favre. His time in Green Bay is all that matters.
Ah thank you Green Bay that's right.....he was a great player though. I agree it was a throwaway yr for him.
We all know who you want, LT. ;) You'll almost certainly need to draw one of the top two picks to get him, though.
Personally, I'm not divulging the teeniest, tiniest shred of information about what I'm thinking about the draft until it's over. Have lots of thoughts and modified strategies this year, though.
Umm........well Yoda it's not who you think it is......oh CRAP this is just horrible.....well I'm not playing if I don't get him.....LOLOLOL !!!!
Just kidding Yoda has Seds ever told you what a sore loser I am....hehehe!!!
I'm sure I will have a VICTORIOUS team again this yr!!!!
Yeah, I am all about keeping each and every thought on players right in me gulliver until AFTER the draft.
spudracer
08-04-09, 05:05 PM
michael vick didnt get signed, did he?
He's been cleared to play, but no team has signed him. At least, that's the last I had heard.
What I will say is that my pre-draft rankings looks pretty funky in some places compared to some of the lists floating around on various sites. This either means I'm in great shape, or totally overthinking any number of factors.
We shall see. :suspicious:
God there are so many great players out there that this is super hard....but, it's wonderful to have my Sundays, Mondays, and Thursday nights watching FOOTBALL again...oh how this girl loves football!!!!!
spudracer
08-04-09, 05:22 PM
I'm looking forward to football more so this year than last year. I have no idea why, but it's about the only sport I can stand to watch.
Hey no love for baseball, hockey, basketball, and water polo????
LOL joking about the water polo :)
Hey Mike Vick was the dog abuser right? If this is true I do not like him sorry animals are so helpless they should not be abused ......sorry not to go off but, just think it's wrong! If the guy has talent that's cool but, pitbull fighting not down with and think it's just wrong.
spudracer
08-04-09, 05:32 PM
Hey Mike Vick was the dog abuser right?
That would be him. I really don't care for the guy, and I doubt that he'll get much support wherever he ends up.
WBadger
08-04-09, 05:34 PM
Some teams, though, are just that desperate.
spudracer
08-04-09, 05:35 PM
Can we say Lions?
LOL Lion's !!!! I guess but, with all that talent out there the Vickster is not looking like a good choice....with this whole animal fighting thing ! I'm not saying he's not good just think along the same lines as Spud the support is what it's all about along with the talent and all though there are team's out there that are hard up for players....well we shall see!
Not by any means trying to get under anyones skin here and do not have enough knowledge of football players to add my two sense but, it struck a nerve sorry!~
Done a handful of mock drafts, which takes some time because there aren't as many 14-team mocks running as there are 10-and-12-team mocks.
Some are messed up by people messing around, but so far just the 4-5 I've done have given me a pretty good handle on what to expect. It's also given me a good handle on a) roughly where I would/would not like to draft, and b) which rounds I have a good handle on, and which ones I need to study a bit more. Fun, but surprisingly daunting, too.
Oh, and since we've got 14 teams confirmed, we have a snap decision to make: do we stick with four playoff teams duking it out in weeks 15 and 16, or do we bump it to 6 (top two seeds get a bye) and extend the playoffs to weeks 14, 15, and 16?
Would really appreciate input on this. I think we'd need nearly across-the-board support to make the switch, though.
spudracer
08-05-09, 01:44 PM
I have no problem with it being extended.
It's easy to make a case either way. On one hand 4 playoff teams out of 14 seems a little low, and it would be nice to give the top two seeds a little benefit. On the other hand 6 is maybe a shade high and we'd be left with just 13 regular season games.
It's a coin-flip for me, though the more I think about it the more I like the idea of extending the playoffs a little.
WBadger
08-05-09, 01:53 PM
I vote for extending the number of teams because:
1. More teams = higher chance to make it
2. Longer playoffs is better I think
I guess I'll count myself in for it, though I don't feel strongly. That's 3 in favor, none opposed so far.
Piledriver
08-05-09, 03:18 PM
Well my vote goes to more teams. Lets face it, it'll be alot more fun and will make draft day VERY exciting since the talent pool will be thinner and that'll mean picking the best players available, etc... which will make the games more exciting, blah blah blah.... Speaking of Draft Day, I'm gonna give everyone my advice on who should be the #1 overall pick so that anyone who doesn't follow football can at least have the best player in the league if they get the first pick overall. The first pick should be JOHN DAVID BOOTY, QB for the Vikings. Not because he is the best QB, but because he has the best name in the game. Seriously. :yup:
spudracer
08-05-09, 03:22 PM
So you're making the Booty call, eh?
Well, the expansion to 14 teams is a given: we've got them confirmed. The only question at this point is whether or not we expand the playoff field from 4 teams to 6 by adding a bye for the top two teams and shortening the regular season to 13 games.
By the by, there was a fairly heralded Marlins 3B prospect named Josh Booty. He didn't pan out, sadly.
Powdered Water
08-05-09, 11:47 PM
I say we don't expand the playoffs. What the hell am I going to do during the bye week while everyone else is playing? That would suck. Leave the playoffs as it is and after this year of trying out 14 teams we'll see for sure if its really needed. Besides Yahoo has all sorts of consolation games for most of the rest of the league during the playoffs so its not like the season ends just because the playoffs start.
Anyway... I'm a big NO.
Although whatever you folks decide is fine because I plan on winning this thing for really real this time anyway so it doesn't really matter.
Oh my, opposition based on the assumption you'll be one of the top two teams, eh? ;)
Fair enough. My main thinking is that 4 teams out of 14 is awfully few. If everyone else loves the idea I'd like to try it, but if others are lukewarm or if anyone else has any reticence then I guess it's better to stand pat unless/until we have a larger consensus.
Powdered Water
08-06-09, 12:07 AM
You know it. Although I have this bizarre luck streak. Always have really. My Father calls it "The Luck of the Cluck". Now that I'm older I sort of realize that my Father gave me that nickname because he was pissed off because I kept whipping him at a lot of different games we used to play but I digress.
What will probably happen is that I will win the FBB World Series and then not even make the FFB playoffs. :laugh:
Or not. I'm a waiver wire freak. I spend a lot of time scouring that thing and that will continue and I will will irritate people to no end with the guys I get! I wonder if Swedish is still mad about Tashard Choice from last season?
Methinks you and I will be dueling on the wire a lot this year. Which is how it should be in a 14-team league, I suspect. :) Then again, with this many teams a lot of the smart fliers should get snagged up in the draft, too.
Anyway, it occurred to me that I had the draft time listed as Sunday, August 22nd, which of course, does not exist. The correct date and time is Sunday, August 23rd at 2:00 PM ET. This'll be 11:00 AM for those of you on PST. Sorry for any confusion; I've updated the original post. If anyone can't make it, particularly you West Coasters, let me know. I'm sure us East Coast folk should push it a little later to accomodate. :)
Really getting hyped for the season. I've taken to doing mock drafts in the background and I've racked up quite a few of them already. Really starting to hone that master list down. I should have a borderline-embarrassing number under my belt by the time we reach draft day.
Powdered Water
08-09-09, 03:14 PM
I haven't done a mock draft yet but it sounds like a good idea.
Piledriver
08-09-09, 06:06 PM
I think we need to up the amount of players into the playoffs since we made the playing field bigger. Everything is going to get harder, so more people should get rewarded for doing well. I say at least 6 for the playoffs.
I mostly agree, except for the "at least" part. Even one more and half the league would be in, which would be a bit much.
I'm pretty torn. It sounds like PW feels strongly, and there are some good reasons to stick with 4. Pete seems to feel strongly, too. Do you guys think it'd be wise for me to just toss up a poll for owners and go with whatever wins, or is this the kind of thing that should require unanimous approval? Any input is welcome. :)
WBadger
08-10-09, 11:13 PM
I really don't feel too strongly of either, so which ever is easiest.
spudracer
08-10-09, 11:21 PM
I don't think you'll be able to get unanimous approval. I would say majority rules. I won't be upset by either choice.
I think we need to up the amount of players into the playoffs since we made the playing field bigger. Everything is going to get harder, so more people should get rewarded for doing well. I say at least 6 for the playoffs.
I agree.
Piledriver
08-12-09, 05:50 PM
6 teams seems fair for the playoffs, which leaves 8 for the "LoserBowl". 4 teams in the playoffs and 10 teams fighting for the "Dung-Heap" cup doesn't seem too cool. I'm sure the 5th and 6th place dudes (myself hopefully being one of these) will be grateful for the extra slots come playoff time, and if it'll make things even easier for PW, why don't we give the 1st and 2nd place teams a bye week so that they can spend the week-off intimidating/humiliating the 3-6 place teams...etc... ;)
Powdered Water
08-12-09, 09:56 PM
I like how this "Piledriver" dude thinks. :D
Let's do it!
Can't we just draft right now?
Consider it done. I talked to a bunch of the other owners and it seems like everyone's fairly cool with it.
One cool upshot of the change is that, with the regular season at 13 games, every team will play every other team exactly once. I dig that.
Here's the URL again, in case anyone wants to poke around:
http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/league/movieforums
All I know is that I am more excited about the draft than I have ever been about any game. :)
Oh, and I will be there on draft day for sure, even if I have to take a vacation day.
Now that's hard core.
:)
aaron rodgers is mine, people, back off
No problem.
If Brett Favre is around, I might just pick him again!
Hey Mike Vick was the dog abuser right? If this is true I do not like him sorry animals are so helpless they should not be abused ......sorry not to go off but, just think it's wrong! If the guy has talent that's cool but, pitbull fighting not down with and think it's just wrong.
If Vick is allowed to play, it should be without a helmet and mouthpiece.
Consider it done. I talked to a bunch of the other owners and it seems like everyone's fairly cool with it.
One cool upshot of the change is that, with the regular season at 13 games, every team will play every other team exactly once. I dig that.
Here's the URL again, in case anyone wants to poke around:
http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/league/movieforums
I support the 13 week season.
It's too bad we can't play 16 games like the regular NFL season.
But I now understand after last season, why we need a week for each playoff round.
I guess that's the way it goes.
We're getting there, MoFos. The draft is this Sunday, August 23rd, at 2:00 PM EST. Don't forget to check on the time zone differences! If someone has an unvoidable conflict that could be remedied by a very slight time shift, I think it's just far enough out that we could tweak this, but it'd have to be soon.
And don't forget to bring it, MoFos, because I'm ready to go. It's my primary hobby right now (which is, admittedly, kinda sad), and my preparation has been downright stupid. Not stupid meaning "a lot of preparation" but stupid meaning "it is stupid for someone with real work and dreams and goals to prepare this much." I'm spending more time thinking about this than I am next year's wedding. I know more about Visanthe Shiancoe's Red Zone targets than I do about my fiance. It's either sad or awesome, depending on your point of view.
Powdered Water
08-17-09, 07:44 PM
I think its awesome.
It is a bit sad, but more awesomer than sad.
Powdered Water
08-17-09, 08:40 PM
Hee... awesomer.
mikeython1
08-17-09, 09:08 PM
Fantasy football is the most addicting thing ever. I will probably have to autodraft now since my work schedule changed recently. I have pre-ranked my players already so I hope my team turns out well.
Glad to hear that, mikey. :) Sorry you probably won't be able to make it, though I hope you can. The pre-draft ranking system does a pretty decent job of making sure people get a fair number of the players they want, though, I think.
Yahoo's mock draft system seems to have disappeared today; lots of people on their forums wondering what's going on. Kind of a bummer, as ESPN and CBS have mock drafts, but neither goes above 12, unlike Yahoo, which usually has a few 14-team mocks going.
Hopefully they'll have it up again soon, though I'm gonna scale back soon. I'll probably do a few more before the actual draft, but I think it's gotten to the point where I've probably learned about as much from them as I'm going to.
Don't forget, MoFos! The draft is 2:00 PM ET this Sunday, August 23rd. That's just over 45 hours from now. Make sure to check for any time zone differences. :)
The League URL is:
http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/league/movieforums
You can edit your pre-draft rankings here:
http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/301751/1/prerank
Powdered Water
08-22-09, 07:21 PM
I'm pumped! Does that sound weird? Pumped? Ah, well, who cares?
Let's do this!!!!
Not at all, I'm pretty excited myself. :) I've done...well...it's kind of embarrassing, so I'll just say I've done a lot of mock drafts. Doing one more this evening and then I'll just, I dunno, meditate until tomorrow afternoon or something.
Powdered Water
08-22-09, 10:34 PM
Ha, yeah. Well you sure did well last year so I doubt a bunch of preparation can hurt any. I'm taking the hands off approach (which also worked pretty well for me last year) by doing basically zero research and no mock drafts whatsoever . I don't know. I seem to have some kind of moral dilemma when it comes to mock drafts. I know they're harmless but I just can't trust myself to try them out. Maybe that makes sense and maybe it doesn't.
So, basically, the only thing I'm doing differently this year is going to be my drafting live. Other than that, well, you know...
I'm excited. And really, really tired. This six days a week stuff is kicking my ass. Still though, I plan to do a little bit of reading in the morning tomorrow and see what happens.
Yeah, it's good for a few general things but at some point it's just a good time-killer. And it can definitely lead to overthink. It is kinda fun, if nothing else.
Really looking forward to tomorrow, and glad you'll be able to make it. :)
Piledriver
08-23-09, 09:08 AM
Woo-Hoo!!!!! 6 more hours people and we officially kick-off FFL 2009!!!!! I'm psyched for this!! As a friendly reminder, Plaxico Burress would make a solid #1 pick overall and I think you'd be pretty smart taking Mike Vick at #2 Team Darcy. This would of course leave me with a very perplexing dilemma at whom to take at #3 of course, but I'm sure I could figure something out. ;) GOOD LUCK TO ALL!!
Why is it always me?! Ok for some reason the damn Yahoo game is saying Im not in the league and its full. I cant access my team. When I hit your League URL Yoda it says
"You are not allowed to view this page because you are not in this league. (Error #152)"
When I hit the predraft rankings edit link it says...
"You are not allowed to view this page because you are not in this league. (Error #152)
That league is not available. (Error #450)"
Powdered Water
08-23-09, 11:43 AM
That happens to me sometimes as well. Did you try to log yourself in? You may have to go to the main Yahoo page and log in and then go to the league page.
EDIT: And then once you get logged in, bookmark that page and you always go straight to that page from then on.
That happens to me sometimes as well. Did you try to log yourself in? You may have to go to the main Yahoo page and log in and then go to the league page.
Oh this has happened to me alot. Im logged into Yahoo, but when I hit the league link from my Yahoo Fantasy Football homepage its says the same thing.
Powdered Water
08-23-09, 11:51 AM
Hmmm, well Chris should be on anytime so I'm sure we'll get it worked out.
AUUUGH! This is such a pain! Maybe I logged in under an old ID "ImTONGO", and had made a new one when Yoda made a new league? I checked thru all my private messages and cant find info.
WHEW! I found out that was the problem, and corrected it. Im good to go now. Joy!
Glad to hear it, TONGO. :) Sorry I wasn't on a bit earlier to help out.
Less than two hours away! I'm going to be particularly interested in the draft order, which should be set just a little over an hour from now. I've been doing mock drafts from random positions because I didn't know where I'd be drafting, but I should be able to use the time just before the draft to come up with a basic idea of who I want in the first handful of rounds.
I gotta say, if nothing else the mock drafts have definitely changed my preconceptions about where I thought I wanted to draft. I had a pretty firm opinion about it before, but now I'm not as sure. I still think I know which couple of general ranges I'd pick if I had the choice, but perhaps it's good that I don't. :D
Powdered Water
08-23-09, 01:28 PM
I was going to try out a mock draft, but wow. You have to be pretty quick on the draw! They fill up in seconds.
Oh yeah, it's absurd, though it's easier on weekdays during, ahem, business hours. Even then I did my geeky little thing and got the URL that the Quick Start button uses for finding 14 team mocks so I could just load it repeatedly, which helped a little bit.
Of course, it's harder for us than it is for most because they only have one 14-team draft starting every five minutes; lots more 10 and 12-team mocks going.
Powdered Water
08-23-09, 01:41 PM
Oh well. I thought it might be fun. I've done a bit of reading and I think I'll be fine. Think I may have found one or two diamonds in the rough and should also be able to get several good to great players early on as well..
As you've already mentioned the Yahoo rankings are pretty good in general so even if I just used those I think I'd be fine.
Yeah, they're not bad. Though I noticed that the draft positions of some players differed greatly based on the default rankings. I did one mock draft with ESPN, who had a player something like 15-16 spots lower than he was on Yahoo, and he consistently went much closer to that level. I found that interesting.
We are ready to go! More research last night and today had me shifting things around a bit, but not too much. I am just going to let the draft develop, trying to get value and depth at all positions.
spudracer
08-23-09, 02:01 PM
Looking forward to this afternoon. A little under an hour away!!
Powdered Water
08-23-09, 02:03 PM
I've been trying to figure out how many bench player there will be. Does anyone know? I can't figure it out from the Yahoo page.
Powdered Water
08-23-09, 02:05 PM
Ah, nevermind. I finally found it. It's 6.
TBH, I am most looking forward to spending a couple of hours in a real time chat with some MoFos! :D
Powdered Water
08-23-09, 02:10 PM
Yeah, this should be a lot of fun!
Are we encouraged to go blue? And also ridicule potential bad picks?
Oh, you mean when I go M. Vick in round one? ;)
Blue as in swearing? Hell yeah, sure. :D
And I might do a bit of gentle ridiculing of some of you, yes. Be warned, MoFos!
Less than 10 minutes until we learn the draft order...
ARE WE ALL READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!! Had to yell that LOL! Stoked about the start of the fantasy season and well football in general !!! :D
Here's the draft order:
Hired Goons
Gadsden Flag
Wolverines
Flash
TONGO
Team Darcy
The Replicants
Slug's Sweeties
Da Bears
The Tateraters
I-Love-Megan...
PW's Odd Squad
Beantown Champs
11 Angry Men
I'm dead last! Interesting.
We should be able to enter the draft room shortly. Here's the link again:
http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/league/movieforums
# 3 thank you much to the football god.....let the glorious draft picking begin :D
Oh...giddy! Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen it!
http://media.gamespy.com/columns/image/article/550/550110/the-top-10-unannounced-star-wars-games-and-guides--20040921033110332.jpg
Just over 10 minutes less, lots of MoFos still not in there. C'mon in, guys! :)
http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/league/movieforums
spudracer
08-23-09, 04:05 PM
Well, that was fun.
Draft afterthoughts...
LOL! Id like to bitch but Im still excited. I got Brady, Favre, Steve Smith, Roddy White, and the Ravens. Feel Chester Taylor might have a great year. Whoever got Adrian Peterson youll be happy cause he was steady money for me last year.
All my research wasnt worth a damn. Yoda I know you analized this to madness. You feel your research paid off?
Some of it did. It mostly just allowed me to know when I'd just barely missed out on a great pick, though. :laugh: I'll probably join an offline league with my friend since I've already done all the research.
I was surprised at how many of my sleepers got snatched up earlier, but as I said in the draft room this didn't end up being a good thing (as it normally would be), because the players who normally go earlier were gone by most of my picks, anyway. Would've really loved to have picked around 9th or 10th, given how things turned out.
That said, I've got last year's top scoring QB (Brees) and last year's top scoring WR (A. Johnson). And I've got four #1 receivers, three of which can expect high reception totals. In a PPR league, that's pretty nice. Still, I've got an odd man out, so I'll probably be looking to trade Cotchery or Moss for some RB depth, if anyone's interested.
All in all, fairly satisfied with my team. I think a lot of teams are going to regret going so heavy on RBs early, given the scoring setup, but on the other side I might regret neglecting the position so long. I guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks. :)
Powdered Water
08-23-09, 04:17 PM
Am I the only one that thinks Slug's team looks pretty spectacular? He's got an awful lot of talent at running back.
Yeah - I made sure that when I did pick a RB, that he had a good amount of receptions last year. I was glad I picked where I did, as it gave me a really good chance of snagging a top 4 WR, which ended up happening. Otherwise, if those four had gone, I think I would have grabbed RB/RB in the first two rounds.
Powdered Water
08-23-09, 04:26 PM
The answer to your trade question is yes Chris. I just shot a trade off to someone. We'll see what happens.
WBadger
08-23-09, 04:28 PM
I'm generally pleased with my roster. I hope the running back spot will do alright with T. Jones and M. Lynch. I do not regret getting A. Rodgers in the first round, he will be ridiculous this year and for years to come. A few players I really wanted I missed out on, but no big deal. I think I filled those holes alright. But you never know, this is fantasy football, people. And I think we all know how unpredictable the NFL is.
So, here's my lineup:
QB: Aaron Rodgers
RB: Thomas Jones
RB: Marshawn Lynch
WR: Greg Jennings
WR: Eddie Royal
TE: Greg Olsen
W/R: Kevin Walter
K: Robbie Gould
DST: Dolphins
Slug's team looks great. Chris Johnson is sick, and was who I had my eye on to pick first before MJD somehow slid to 7th...
LT's team has some solid depth, as well.
Mine... not so much!
Powdered Water
08-23-09, 04:45 PM
Yeah, that first round was absolutely nuts.
WBadger
08-23-09, 04:46 PM
Especially with Aaron Rodgers as the first pick.
LT might have made a savvy counter move by snagging Joe Addai's cuff...
Yeah, that shocked a lot of us. I don't disagree that he could be really damn good, but I don't think I saw a single mock draft where he went earlier than the 3rd round, so you probably could've snagged him in the 2nd, too. But I can't argue that your team looks pretty good overall, anyway.
Got me a lot of thinking to do about who to play, what to offer trade-wise. On the upside, my lame draft position netted me the #1 waiver priority to start the season, so there's that.
Powdered Water
08-23-09, 04:54 PM
I hate that I have 4 Cardinals on my team... Pfffft!!!
WBadger
08-23-09, 05:00 PM
I figured Aaron Rodgers would place near the end of the second round, had I not picked him first. This is the first time playing Fantasy Football through Yahoo, so I don't know how the scoring system works, and how much of a difference a quarterback and running back makes point-wise. But, I got great numbers from him consistently last season.
Also, I'm a Packer fan.
I think it's more the quality of running back you end up with picking them later. That position takes the most punishment, so depth is important. Meanwhile, the single QB position just isn't that tough to fill with an adequate player. A 500 yard, 5 touchdown difference in QB is much easier to work around in a season than dealing with poor output in multiple slots from suboptimal backs.
Was that the basic strategy you were talking about in the draft room, Mike?
My philosophy, which is probably obvious now, is that reliable RBs are increasingly hard to find, and the number of time-shares in the NFL makes it very difficult to find backs that aren't somewhat risky. As Mike pointed out, the position takes a beating, which means depth is important...however, that fact also means that a number of backs will inevitably emerge during every season from the rough.
So, I embraced this risk by taking top-tier at QB, WR, and TE (I think I might have the best player at all three positions, actually) and buying a bunch of RB lottery tickets (I've got seven. :laugh:). If one of them emerges, and/or I grab even one average replacement off the waiver wire, I think it ends up working. But that's the risk. :) Granted, I expected to be able to nab a couple more of the fliers I'd targeted, but I still only need one, and for either Ward or Benson to be above-average.
That said...Cedric Benson still makes me feel dirty.
Powdered Water
08-23-09, 05:29 PM
You should. :laugh:
I think I like my backup QB more than my starter. Warner is already nursing a hip I hear.
WBadger
08-23-09, 05:36 PM
I also do feel I got some running backs that will produce, so it's not like I'm getting zero contribution in that area.
Except for Lynch, who will certainly give you zero points for at least the first three games.
If only you had Fred Jackson... ;)
Powdered Water
08-23-09, 06:36 PM
HA! And so it begins. Man I can't wait for the real season to start!
11 Angry Men
QB Drew Brees
WR Andre Johnson
WR Marques Colston
RB Derrick Ward
RB Cedric Benson
TE Jason Witten
W/R Santana Moss
K Phil Dawson
DEF Carolina
Da Bears
QB Philip Rivers
WR DeSean Jackson
WR Bernard Berrian
RB DeAngelo Williams
RB Clinton Portis
TE John Carlson
W/R Ryan Grant
K Kris Brown
DEF Philadelphia
Hired Goons
QB Aaron Rodgers
WR Greg Jennings
WR Eddie Royal
RB Thomas Jones
RB Marshawn Lynch
TE Greg Olsen
W/R Kevin Walter
K Robbie Gould
DEF Miami
Gadsden Flag
QB Carson Palmer
WR Antonio Bryant
WR Lee Evans
RB Adrian Peterson
RB Marion Barber
TE Antonio Gates
W/R Pierre Thomas
K Stephen Gostkowski
DEF New England
The Tateraters
QB Ben Roethlisberger
WR Chad Ochocinco
WR Terrell Owens
RB Rashard Mendenhall
RB Julius Jones
TE Cornelius Ingram
W/R Derrick Mason
K Jeff Reed
DEF Arizona
Flash
QB Peyton Manning
WR Anthony Gonzalez
WR Lance Moore
RB Chris Wells
RB Jamal Lewis
TE Dallas Clark
W/R Felix Jones
K Adam Vinatieri
DEF Pittsburgh
PW's Odd Squad
QB Kurt Warner
WR Larry Fitzgerald
WR Wes Welker
RB Steve Slaton
RB Darren McFadden
TE Jeremy Shockey
W/R Ray Rice
K Neil Rackers
DEF Minnesota
TONGO
QB Tom Brady
WR Steve Smith
WR Roddy White
RB Jonathan Stewart
RB LenDale White
TE Visanthe Shiancoe
W/R Torry Holt
K Nate Kaeding
DEF Baltimore
Team Darcy
QB Matt Hasselbeck
WR Reggie Wayne
WR Brandon Marshall
RB Michael Turner
RB Darren Sproles
TE Tony Gonzalez
W/R T.J. Houshmandzadeh
K Mason Crosby
DEF New York
Wolverines
QB Jay Cutler
WR Randy Moss
WR Braylon Edwards
RB Matt Forte
RB Kevin Smith
TE Kellen Winslow
W/R Willie Parker
K Rian Lindell
DEF New York
Beantown Champs
QB Matt Ryan
WR Hines Ward
WR Laveranues Coles
RB Frank Gore
RB Steven Jackson
TE Chris Cooley
W/R Reggie Bush
K Ryan Longwell
DEF Green Bay
Slug's Sweeties
QB Matt Schaub
WR Anquan Boldin
WR Roy Williams
RB Brian Westbrook
RB Chris Johnson
TE Zach Miller
W/R Joseph Addai
K Rob Bironas
DEF Dallas
The Replicants
QB Donovan McNabb
WR Calvin Johnson
WR Vincent Jackson
RB Maurice Jones-Drew
RB Ronnie Brown
TE Owen Daniels
W/R Donald Driver
K Matt Prater
DEF San Diego
I-Love-Megan-Fox
QB Tony Romo
WR Dwayne Bowe
WR Santonio Holmes
RB LaDainian Tomlinson
RB Brandon Jacobs
TE Dustin Keller
W/R Larry Johnson
K David Akers
DEF Tennessee
Wolverines!
http://goremasternews.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/red-dawn-wolverines1.jpg
At first glance it looks like 11 Angry Men, Gadsden Flag, and Flash are the teams to beat. The Sweeties have real potential too.
I confess I picked Tom Brady by accident. I never ran a mock draft, got confused how to select a player, felt I was running out of time so looked for a big name, and ta da!!!
I really screwed the pooch today and ignored the temp light in my car. Everything is alright now, but it torqued me that I missed most of the draft. I am glad I mitigated my damages by doing the boy scout thing. :)
WBadger
08-23-09, 11:57 PM
I tried to spot out any potential front runners, but honestly, looks like even teams. Should be really interesting, especiall with fourteen teams.
I do think Gadsden Flag, Slug, and Beantown got the best RB line-ups...
I checked results on some of the official "pro" drafts, and, aside from the bizarre Rodgers pick, we fell in line with a lot of the PPR drafts I checked. Some of the things that were a bit whacky:
1 - Obviously Rodgers going 1st overall, which is unheard of.
2 - Moss slipping to 25th overall - He never went later than 16th in the results I checked, usually going before Megatron. I really should have taken Moss over Megatron, but I failed to consider the QB situations, thinking only of the crazy production Yoda was getting from Johnson last season. I should still be OK, but, as a big Pats fan, not taking Moss was silly.
3 - Quarterbacks - In most of the results I checked, the first QB to go was Brees, and the earliest he went was late 3rd/early 4th round. I checked PPR results, for the most part, and choosing a QB in the 1st or 2nd in this format seems like suicide to me. Good luck to those that chose to do this, especially in league 14 deep. I am guessing PPR numbers will suffer with the slide in elite talent at PPR positions. Time will tell.
Let's compare Brees to Rivers:
Here are their lines from last year:
Brees - 5069 Yards - 34 TDs - 17 INT - 370 Fantasy Points
Rivers - 4009 Yards - 34 TDs - 11 INT - 347 Fantasy Points
I think the numbers speak for themselves. Why sacrifice top elite players for a margin as small as this? No matter how I attempt to view this stuff, the relatively small margin above is just not worth sacrificing early picks to achieve. The difference between mid-tier QBs and mid-tier WR/RB players relative to their elite counterparts should be clear.
Romo, Rivers, Cutler, and McNabb all went fourth round, and I would be fine with any of those four players on my team in that position. Hell, I would be fine with my backup QB, David Gerard (setting up combo with MJD) at that position. I plan on rotating McNabb and Gerard depending on match-up and the Vick factor. If Gerard and MJD get good solid passing chemistry going this year, I might just move Gerard to starter.
Oh man - Almost forgot...
5- SPUDS PICKED OCHO-STINKO UP IN THE FIRST ROUND!!!!!!
Yeah - that was weird, too...
You make some good points, Mike, and I definitely considered this quite a bit leading up to the draft. I was actually determined most of the way to go with a QB in the 3rd or 4th round, or the 5th-6th if the Romo/Rivers/Rodgers tier was gone. I'll try to explain why I settled on Brees instead.
The main thing is reliability. It's absolutely true that out of guys like Romo, Rodgers, Rivers, and McNabb, a couple will probably put up relatively strong numbers that represent only a modest drop-off from the Brees/Brady tier. However, the risk is that we don't know which ones will. Romo's without T.O. and missed a few games last year, Rodgers has just one good year under his belt, Rivers is in an offense that will place lots of emphasis on the run, and McNabb is far from a sure bet to play all 16 games again. Last year, it's true that Rivers and Brees put up very similar numbers, but that represented a slightly better-than-expected year for Brees, and a huge career year for Rivers. In 2007, Brees put up 317 points and Rivers put up just 219. Yahoo doesn't total the numbers before then, but based on the 2006 stats it looks like the gap was about 100 points then, too.
I like Rivers just fine, of course, but the thinking behind Brees is that his consistency and reliability are unrivaled. He's had three top-notch years in a row with the Saints, and their offense is such that it's pretty difficult for him to have a poor game, points-wise. Hell, he threw for 5,000 yards last year with both Colston and Bush missing a lot of time to injury. There's no such thing as a sure thing, but I think Brees is about as close as they come.
There are examples of small drop-offs at other positions, as well. Brandon Jacobs went just five picks after Brees (and has a higher average draft position), and the difference between his totals last year and 4th-rounder Reggie Bush is just 20 points or so.
Maybe Rivers will put up great numbers again, and maybe Santonio Holmes will put it all together and have a breakout year. But the mindset behind taking guys like Steve Smith or Brees instead of Rivers and Holmes is that they've done it more consistently. It's hard to put a value on that.
Re: his average draft position. This would need to be adjusted for the fact that passing TDs are 6 instead of 4 in our league (unless you already did?). That changes everything.
Completely agree about Moss. I don't think it'll come back to bite you or anything, though, and Calvin Johnson is just flat-out fun to own. But Moss was a steal there and LTIZZY should be pretty pleased with herself for nabbing him there.
I did also consider the fact that Johnson is on the rise, while Moss is declining. I like giving young talent a chance, as you folks know from playing against me last year, and I am still damn happy I ended up with a Top 4 WR, as I have always had to get by with guys ranked around 20th, which always caused me problems with consistency, especially in a PPR league.
Another thing I was considering was the fact that I ran two teams last year, and I had a much easier time juggling talent on the team I waited to draft the QB on (both 12 team leagues). I pulled Manning in our league in the 2nd, and my lack of depth in the other posistion, all of which require multiple players, spelled my doom by season's end. On the other team, I skipped an early QB, and drafted Adrian Peterson, Steve Smith, and MoJo in the first three rounds, followed by another wideout in the fourth. Add to this a mid-round D'Angelo Williams snag, and my team was stacked to the gills with sick skill players. Keep in mind D-Will was thought to be a second fiddle last year, before he ignited and went crazy on his yards per carry.
Imagine how surreal it was during the Super Bowl trying to decide who to use from the group of AP, MJD, Flash Johnson, and D'Angelo Williams... I went with Williams and AP, btw... The gold is in my cabinet on yahoo. ;)
EDIT - GAH! I didn't have D. Williams, that was yet another team! I had the other three listed, and Fast Willie Parker for the Steelers.
I know that isn't much of an argument, as many other factors come into play, but it did seem easier to run the team, and it also highlights the fact that a team that focuses on depth at RB can certainly win the format. Smith helped, but my other WRs were pretty bad.
Yeah, that's a pretty sick roster (even without Williams). MoJo is Jones-Drew, right? In the third round?? :eek: How's that possible? Was it a -2 PPR league? :D
I dig what you're saying about Johnson, and that's the same reason I went with him last year, instead of someone a bit steadier. You never know when they'll make that huge leap forward, and snagging guys like that in the middle rounds is, I think, one of the things that tends to win leagues.
Re: Manning. Keep in mind you were bunched right there with the top four scoring teams, made the playoffs, and would've won over PW in the championship if you had beaten me in the first round. I really think that the playoffs can be a bit of a crapshoot anyway, so to my mind being one of those four teams means you were certainly good enough to take the whole thing, even if it doesn't always shake out that way.
Anyway, that said I'll certainly admit that I'm a bit uneasy. I thought I'd have gotten some slightly better sleepers at RB than I ended up getting. I definitely made a mistake taking Moss, given that Cotchery ended up being available later and will probably put up very similar numbers. I probably should've gone with Rice there, even though he's a huge risk/reward pick.
Ray Rice? Oh I think that would have been a SAVVY move, for sure.
Keep in mind MoJo was in a very different situation, with the Jags pandering to Vet Fred Taylor up until this year. Even with MoJo's tremendous upside, they just wouldn't give him enough carries per game to be a viable RB1. I do think he was top of the list RB2 last year, though.
A funny aside, as we toss fantasy numbers around. In 07 I was in the Super Bowl, as well, but lost. The reason? The weather. I failed to check weather on Favre's game, and they got hit with an ice storm. If I have played Gerrard that week, who went off for over 300 yars and multiple TDs, I would have won.
Favre's fantasy points that year, with just 4 points per TD, in otherwise similar fractional scoring?
376.55
I can't remember exactly what I got out of him in the bowl, but I think it was around 6-8 total points.
I picked up Peterson in the 13th that year, his rookie year.
This gal is quite satisfied with the pick and enjoyed the draft! I am very much interested to see how my team will perform for me and can't wait for football to begin. Moss was a fabulous steal on my part and I would be a very silly girl to have passed this homeboy up LOL......I feel good about my team and we shall see who will be going as the football season progresses !!!!!
Oh how I love me some football :D
I must say with Sed's and I in the same room I felt so much better about the whole draft.....let's just hope we all have a great season!!!!!!!!! I can't wait to get the trophy......YAY......I had to add that since my team will be Victorious!!!!!!!!!!
Anyway - Next question for everyone:
Please post your picks for Steal of the Draft (SOD) and Reach of the Draft (ROD)
Steal of the Draft - Randy Moss at 26th overall
Reach of the Draft - TIE - Aaron Rodgers at 1st overall OR Ochocinco at 10th overall.
Piledriver
08-24-09, 05:14 PM
I'd have to say the Steal of the Draft may just be getting D. Brees at pick 14. Seriously. He was rated as either the #1 or #2 QB to be taken overall and was taken as the 4th QB in our draft. That is a very sweet pick indeed.
As for the Reach of the Draft, it definitely goes to Chad "I Need More Attention, So I'm Gonna Change My Name To a Number" Ocho Cinco. This move is barely more insane than Aaron Rodgers going at #1 overall simply because no receiver should ever go that high in Fantasy Football. Ever. They don't equal up to enough fantasy points value to justify picking that early, but to each their own.
Overall, the draft went smooth and I think this will be a very fun league to play in this year. Good Luck to everyone!!
Zing!
Honorable mention on REACH - Mendenhall in the first round.
As much as I like Brees, I don't think he's a steal or anything at 14, but I do agree that it's pretty weird that he was the 4th QB taken. I actually hadn't considered that at all; his value does go up a bit considering that the other elite QBs were (amazingly) gone already by then.
Re: Mendenhall. He was in the 2nd round, and yeah, I think Mendenhall and Ochocinco were big reaches. Rodgers, too, simply because no matter how good he ends up being, you can almost certainly get him coming back. It's possible someone else might reach for him, but to take him earlier I think you've got to like him so much and be 110% convinced he'll come through on all his upside. And if someone else wants to reach, I think you have to let 'em.
Anyway, those are the really obvious reaches. I think the first three defenses all went quite early, and Torry Holt, while he should be okay, went in the 6th with guys like Cotchery, Walter, and Mason still out there. It's not unthinkable, but guys like Cotchery and Mason both figure to catch 80 passes or so, and Holt's coming off a really down year.
Steals of the draft: Moss at 26th overall, maybe Rivers at 46th, Royal at 57th if he duplicates last year's numbers. A few other picks, like Matt Hasselbeck in the 8th and Braylon Edwards in the 5th could be huge steals if either reverts to even 75% of their former selves.
QB Tom Brady NE
WR Steve Smith Car
WR Roddy White Atl
RB Jonathan Stewart Car
RB LenDale White Ten
TE Visanthe Shiancoe Minn
W/R Torry Holt Jac
K Nate Kaeding SD
DEF Baltimore
__________
QB Brett Favre Minn
RB Chester Taylor Minn
DEF Buffalo
WR Nate Burleson Sea
WR Miles Austin Dal
RB Michael Bush Oak
Should I be nervous? I am. My running game is "meh" and from what Ive watched in the NFL the past 10 years is the running game overtaking the importance of even a QB. Will I miss Adrian Peterson? Will Tom Brady deliver? Will Brett Favre end up being my #1 guy due to more points earned? Well maybe not, but where did I go wrong? Any criticism appreciated I just dont want to be thinking Im a moron unless Im sure of it. Seriously any suggestions welcome.
I don't think you really "went wrong" at all. You've got two really good WRs and Brady, who should easily be a top 3 (or at least top 5) QB. Your RBs are a bit weaker, but White's still going to get plenty of carries, and a lot of them at the goal line.
I'd be a bit nervous about Stewart, but there isn't a single team in the league that doesn't have a weak spot or two, and given how strong your strengths are (IE: very), I wouldn't exactly be panicking just yet.
Powdered Water
08-25-09, 12:18 AM
Let me put your mind at ease T. You'll be lucky to win 4 games. There. Isn't it nice having all of that pressure off your shoulders now?
Seriously though, I think I may have reached on several of my players but I figured what the hell. I did get a very nice receiver and RB1 and if Cassel starts huckin' the ball around down in KC the same way he did for the Pats last season Warner will be out on his ass. I don't think Warner has ever played an entire year anyhow so Cassel will see some playing time I reckon.
I'm hoping McFadden has a breakout year if he stays relatively healthy. I think he's a helluva an athlete. Sure, he's on the Raiders but like it or not the Raiders did show some signs of life at the end of last season.
I can't pry Carlson away from Mikey so now I have to try and convince myself that Shockey can still be quality TE, which to be perfectly honest he could very well be. He just needs to stay on the damn field is all.
I don't know, I felt like taking some risks so I did. We'll see if it pays off or not.
I have a very interesting trade offer on the table right now... deciding if I should take it. I do feel the person offering the trade is trying to put all his eggs in one basket - a green and yellow basket. You sure you want all those skill positions covered by the same team, Goons? I would end up with a WR3 that is a few places higher in the rankings than the one I currently have...
Well - I thought about it. I think I will stick with my green and yellow buddy, as I really like the potential Rodgers gives Driver to catch for over 1000 yards again this season. Walter doesn't have a ton of targets per game, and he was quiet in many games last year. That could change this year, sure, but I will give Driver a shot in my swing slot for a week or two...
Yeah, I agree with that, Mike, I'd hang onto him too. And besides: don't be that guy, WBadger. :D You know the guy: the one who tries to get as many players from his favorite team as he can.
Anyway, I made a trade offer a few minutes ago. It's uber-even, I think, and is of the "slight upgrade at one position for a slight downgrade in another" variety. We shall see if the other owner feels likewise. Either way, I'm scouring other rosters for similar offers. Gotta move some of the depth for either a bit more reliability, or a bit more upside.
EDIT: just sent another one. I'm a maniac, people. There'll be trade offers waiting for every owner before the day is through.
I've got another possible trade in mind, but I don't want something going where I've got one guy involved in multiple deals and it becomes about who replies first. I'll see how the first two offers shake out.
My RB 3 just went down...
RUH ROH!!!
Looks like Driver gets the nod, which was probably going to happen anyway.
Man, I have poor depth at RB again this year.
Come on...starting lineup! :D
Powdered Water
08-25-09, 10:06 PM
I've started staring at my lineup longingly for the last two days. I can't wait for the season to start!
WBadger
08-25-09, 10:20 PM
Yeah, I agree with that, Mike, I'd hang onto him too. And besides: don't be that guy, WBadger. :D You know the guy: the one who tries to get as many players from his favorite team as he can.
Uh, I'm just not happy with my Kevin Walter pick-up. Right now, I want to get a more quality player there to fill his spot. I'm not trying to build an all-Packer team here or anything. I think you're either in denial or just idiotic to just collect your favorite teams players, just because you sure do love your team! I'm not on a quest to obtain every Packer, actually I want the best chance to win, just like everybody else.
Sorry, to get so defensive, there, but just didn't want people to get the wrong idea or impression of me, you know? Especially since I don't like the guys that stack their team with every player of their favorite team, which is now obvious. :D
Uh, I'm just not happy with my Kevin Walter pick-up. Right now, I want to get a more quality player there to fill his spot. I'm not trying to build an all-Packer team here or anything. I think you're either in denial or just idiotic to just collect your favorite teams players, just because you sure do love your team! I'm not on a quest to obtain every Packer, actually I want the best chance to win, just like everybody else.
Sorry, to get so defensive, there, but just didn't want people to get the wrong idea or impression of me, you know? Especially since I don't like the guys that stack their team with every player of their favorite team, which is now obvious. :D
Youre right WBadger, and I have the perfect Minnesota player for you. His names Brett Favre, and Im in need of a running back. Interested?
spudracer
08-27-09, 09:44 AM
I thought you were all about Favre. :D
Anyone see that kooky Ray Rice play the other night?
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs174.snc1/6528_1241101706435_1196092282_30710571_2087323_n.jpg
OMG.....Sedster I love the pic it's soooooo funny :D
:laugh: Nice.
Meanwhile, still bandying offers about. Got a couple others I might fire off today or tomorrow. Lots of tweaking to be done before opening day. :)
I'm with PW on the scheduling; definitely getting antsy. Things need to get started so I can lose the first two weeks, overreact, and start overhauling things needlessly.
WBadger
08-27-09, 04:24 PM
I will easily decline your trade offer, TONGO.
Powdered Water
08-27-09, 09:09 PM
What did Ray Rice do? Was it good? He's on my team you know. I need to be up on all the info.
Freakin' exhibition football... BAH!!!
Rice is the real deal. Start him.
SO, I have shed a couple of super late round guys for some potential upside, and I am ready to start the season!
spudracer
08-31-09, 10:36 AM
I can't tell you how ready I am for some football. I've got that Monday Night Football theme playing in my head right now.
I know it's hard to believe...and it is only preseason...but....
DETROIT WON A GAME!!!!
Against Indy, too...
spudracer
08-31-09, 10:50 AM
I know it's hard to believe...and it is only preseason...but....
DETROIT WON A GAME!!!!
Against Indy, too...
Holy crap! I would hate to be in the Colts' locker room. :D
You gents feel like making some breakout player predictions and the like?
Ok - I will start! :D
Jermichael Finley - Tight End - Green Bay Packers
It's a case of putting my money where my mouth is. Yes, I have him on my roster, in hopes that he continues to impress, score, and dominate the race for that TE1 spot on Aaron Rodgers high-octane offense. I am not 100% on my starting TE, Owen Daniels, who seems to have trouble finding the end zone.
Beanie Wells - Running Back - Arizona Cardinals
The Bean! This guy was complaining that he didn't feel right, didn't have his usual burst, and wasn't up to 100% during the Green Bay preseason game.... meanwhile he scored two TDs and his YPC was a towering 6.6 Yards per... Watch the highlight reel on NFL.com, and one can see the potential this guy has...if he can stay healthy. He's a big injury risk, but his skill set is clearly elite. Also, I do feel The Cardinals are one of the only viable handcuff teams this season.
There are a couple more I would list, but I will let some others post a few players first!
Powdered Water
08-31-09, 11:47 PM
Nice call on Finley Seds, I've picked him up on two other teams and am starting him on one team that plays two TE's. I think he's going to have a fantastic year. I went looking for him in our league and saw you already had him... I was bummed. I'm pretty happy that DaBears dropped Vernon Davis however I think he's got a ton of potential I'm just not convinced that the QB's in Frisco will be able to get him the ball enough. We'll see though.
Brent Celek TE Philadelphia Eagles A lot of upside for this TE and on a team that uses the Tight End quite a bit. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he ended the year with 8-10 TD's and 500 plus yards.
I think Yoda has one of the best RB's that not many are talking about. LeSean McCoy looks terrific and I think he will see a lot of time. Westbrook would be a miracle if he made it through a whole season unhurt.
Anthony Gonzalez WR Indy also looks like a fantastic number two receiver and may end up with better numbers than Wayne when its all said and done. Remember, no more Harrison and from what I've read Gonzalaez has speed to really burn.
Another receiver prospect that I may get to play some this year is Josh Morgan, but again, who's going to be throwing him the ball. The talent is there but will Frisco be able to exploit it? We'll see, we'll see.
Obviously I'm betting a pretty large part of my fantasy scoring on Ray Rice but the reasoning is sound. Baltimore is a running team and Ray looks like a young back that will not only thrive on an every down basis but he can also catch the ball out of the backfield. Actually that's the same reason I took McFadden. I think they're both potentially PPR nightmares for opposing teams if they stay healthy.
Anywho, those are a few of my sleepers and not coincidentally several of them are on my teams so I am also putting my money where my mouth is.
Ah...great call on Gonzalez. With Harrison out of the picture, this guy should really blossom... do football players blossom? I don't think they do...
All your picks have great potential. San Fran is a big question mark right now. The first couple of weeks in the regular season should shed some light on whether or not this club can get anything going besides "Gore up the middle", "Gore to the left" and "Gore to the right."
By the by - I watched some of the game last night. I had seen an article in which they interviewed some of the Texans before the game. One fellow stated that they had trouble stopping the run in the previous week, and that they would need to focus on tightening that up this week. Looks like Peterson broke one off for 75 yards during the first play of the game. Oh, and Favre was 1 - playing and 2- making completions.
I foresee a better year for the Vikings...
I agree with pretty much all the picks so far. And I really like PW snagging McFadden and Rice. Both are risks, to be sure, but both have a lot of upside and the downside is really just split-time, which isn't a back (ha!) breaker or anything. It just comes with the territory these days.
I'm not too high on Wells, partially because of the injury stuff. Of course, now that I have Hightower I've got a conflict of interest, but I felt this way beforehand. And I just have no clue whether or not to place any stock in what happens in the preseason. I think it can tell us some really basic stuff, like whether a player is completely overmatched or not, but beyond that I think it has a lot more effect on draft position and valuation than it probably should.
I don't want to talk too much about sleepers, for obvious reasons (;)), but since Mike already snagged him I think Chris Henry has some real potential. I think Steve Smith (NYG, on Bobby's team) could end up overtaking D. Hixon as Eli Manning's top target, too.
I think I agree with PW about McCoy, but I'm definitely a bit nervous. Westbrook should miss a game or two, but the real question is whether or not McCoy gets himself a solid 12-15 touches even when both are playing. That's my hope, if only because even if Westbrook gets hurt, I don't think he'll miss more than a few games.
Still counting on Derrick Ward quite a bit, which could be a problem given recent reports of a three-headed backfield in Tampa. I actually don't completely buy this, and I still think Ward's going to get the majority of the touches. He just signed a fairly lucrative contract, and he put up 1,400 total yards last year behind Brandon Jacobs. He's an awfully good pass catcher, too, but I definitely need him to put up above-average numbers this year. Out of Ward and Benson, I need one to be above-average, and out of McCoy and Hightower, I need one to be decent. Otherwise I'll need huge numbers out of my big names, and/or I'll need to snag a surprise off the waiver wire.
Very anxious to get things going! Might have a couple more trade offers over the next week or so, too, though I have to slow down a bit since I'm still waiting on a response and a lot of the same players would be involved in most other offers.
I think Hightower might deliver for you this year. He looks better. Not great, but he definitely seems more mobile. I gave up on Benson years ago. Keep an eye on that Bean! Like I said, is he stays healthy, he will certainly maker an impact.
Hightower is so weird; he seemed like a great waiver wire steal last year, then he played terribly, then they draft Wells, then half the experts love Wells and the other half hates him, then Hightower has a great training camp, and then Wells has a great preseason game. Egads.
I won't pretend that I'm able to sort all this out, but at least I know that, if both Ward and Benson disappoint, I should have someone who'll get some goal line carries.
I know I keep saying this about Benson, but my hope is that he'll simply get an overwhelming number of Cincy's carries. I'm not banking on the guy improving much at all, really, I just think there's a good chance he makes up in volume what he lacks in talent. Of course, nobodies emerge to become starters every year, but given how rare clear-cut starters are after the first 25-30 picks, I figure his relative hold on the starting job is still worth something.
There can be lots of hidden value in those boring/underachieving players sometimes. Benson isn't fun or exciting to own, but if he gets most of the carries he should put up more than 1,000 total yards, and for an 8th round pick that's not too bad.
Even so, if someone like Hightower or McCoy steps up, it might be a moot point. That's why the season needs to hurry up and get started so we can see how this all shakes out! I've been speculating about this stuff for a solid month.
I agree. The small dose of Football that I got last night didn't help, either. It was like watching practice runs...I need the real season to start!
I have another draft this Monday night in my standard league, as well...
WBadger
09-01-09, 04:41 PM
Yoda, by the way, Cadillac Williams was named Bucs starter for some reason. Still, Ward might get a lot of rushing time, but you never know.
Just saying...
Hmm, I don't see any news about that on Google News or Yahoo or anything. Do you just mean that he's first on the depth chart, or was chosen to start the last preseason game, or something?
WBadger
09-01-09, 05:21 PM
I heard it on local news, though, I am skeptical as well.
I have a feeling they'll have a tough time choosing the starter and will just mix it up between Williams/Ward/Graham.
Looking around a bit more, it looks like what you heard was just a reference to him starting the last preseason game, which thankfully isn't reliably indicative of how often someone will be used, I don't think. They throw a lot of guys out there during the preseason to get them time. I think it mostly just confirms that he'll be somewhere in the mix.
I still think there'll be some kind of time split (at least to start), but Williams starting an exhibition doesn't worry me too much.
I am happy with my Manning/Clark combo, at least for now, hopefully they keep it up.
Powdered Water
09-01-09, 09:33 PM
Yeah, when that combo worked for Seds last year it was really working.
And I haven't seen anything on Ward either but I can't believe that the Bucs would seriously be thinking that a triple threat is really a great idea. I think Ward will start and will see the bulk of the work down there. Williams is still trying to come back from that major injury from last year and I highly doubt that he is 100% right now. The coaches little proclamation in the media the other day just rings of placating ego's to this reporter.
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