IQs

[firegod]

I thought I'd continue this here.

Originally posted by TWTCommish
That's exactly the way I feel. :yup: Though I doubt most of us have taken formal tests. Mine have all be casual...some of those online ones and such. Not terribly reliable...more of just a general number. It'd still be interesting to see where everyone stands. I'd bet the numbers would be surprising.

There are some very reliable tests on the internet; I'll see if I kind find some. Make sure you don't get distracted. I once took an unofficial IQ test, and scored about 30 points less than normal, because I ran out of time with 9 unanswered questions.

[morbidodyssey]

mine is 156.

[The Silver Bullet]

Not based on structuring sentances, it seems...

On average I'm 126.
Which is fine by me. For now.

We need a sly smilie....
Like this one:

[Yoda]

Has anyone here taken an "official" IQ Test, or has it been all, say, IQTest.com and such for everyone?

[The Silver Bullet]

Mine was Emode.com so I simply don't take much notice to it.

[firegod]

I might be making a stupid mistake here, but I'll do this. When I was 9 my school gave me an IQ test, and I got 165. Now, that is with the age factored in. If an adult took the same test and had the same results, I think he would have received a score of about 130. A few years ago I downloaded an IQ test, the kind primarily used to test for admittance to Mensa. I got 152 on that.

IQ tests measure several different types of intelligence, but not all. There are ways I am a complete idiot. I know someone who got 110 on an IQ test, and is better than I am at trivia games. What really counts is how hard you try to improve yourself; those with a 200 IQ might accomplish very little in life, while those with not much more than half of that might excel at a very impressive level.

[BrodieMan]

i took an IQ test on the internet and it said mine was 140-something.

i have a feeling the internet versions of IQ tests aren't as comprehensive as the official, though.

at any rate, the average is what?....... 100? 110, maybe? we're all smarter than that. :D

[firegod]

Mine was of an official type. I know what you mean, though. Type "IQ tests" on Yahoo, click on "Category Matches" and check out the sites they have to offer. USELESS.

[Yoda]

I've never taken a formal IQ test. I took the one on IQTest.com at least a year or two ago. I got like 150 something. It says you can take it again after 6 months, so like 8 months later or something I took it again and got over 160...but I'm convinced it's got a significant margin of error.

I'd like to take a real one at some point. But it seems a little vain, so I won't, for now. I know my dad took some Mensa test and was accepted, but never joined, too. I like that. He's a smart guy. :yup:

[BrodieMan]

Originally posted by firegod
Mine was of an official type. I know what you mean, though. Type "IQ tests" on Yahoo, click on "Category Matches" and check out the sites they have to offer. USELESS.

it may be true that the internet tests are far from completely accurate, but don't you think some of them have more validity than others? they can't all be shams.

why do you scoff like that? who cares anyway? :)

[firegod]

Nah, they aren't all shams, but I couldn't find a single official type IQ test in the Yahoo IQ category.

[firegod]

Originally posted by TWTCommish
I've never taken a formal IQ test. I took the one on IQTest.com at least a year or two ago. I got like 150 something. It says you can take it again after 6 months, so like 8 months later or something I took it again and got over 160...but I'm convinced it's got a significant margin of error.

I'd like to take a real one at some point. But it seems a little vain, so I won't, for now. I know my dad took some Mensa test and was accepted, but never joined, too. I like that. He's a smart guy. :yup:

I'll try to check out the IQTest.com site tonight.

[Yoda]

I think they may've changed it. I'm not sure. Anyway, I'll take a look, too. I might take it again. I think I've taken it a few times...I know my highest ever there is near 170, and my lowest just under 150. So it's not to be taken too seriously, IMO. As much as I'd love to believe I have an IQ of 170, I don't think I do. :modest:

[BrodieMan]

wow, you guys are obsessive and prone to bragging.

um, i guess if it mattered i would retake it. honestly, it doesn't, though. there's absolutely no reason for me to feel that a number is a true indicator of how smart i am, how well i'll do in life or how people should view me.

i would love to see the IQs of gandhi, martin luther king jr., jfk, edison, dickens, etc. somehow i doubt those guys spent that much of their time worrying about test results.

[firegod]

Great point.

[BrodieMan]

thank you. :) please don't take the prone to bragging thing as an insult by the way. i'm a bad winner, myself.

it is sort of interesting to find out, but there's very little point in making a competetion out of it.

[firegod]

Just for the record, I wasn't trying to. Commish and I were interested in what everone's IQ was, and we were both reluctant to say what ours are, but I finally decided to take the plunge. I thought I would probably get this kind of response. It's ok.

[Yoda]

Well, I don't worry about this stuff much...if I did, I'd take more than some less-than-10-minute online quiz thing. I have no plans to take an actual test. I do find it kind of fun to take the short ones, though. I like challenges. EDIT: just saw your reply now. Yeah, I worry about that a lot. I'd never just blurt something like that out...and I dunno what my actual IQ is anyway. It's a sensitive subject. No matter what your IQ is, it's not usually going to come off well when you post it publicly.

[BrodieMan]

what did you guys get on your SATs? i got a slightly-higher than average 1200. i suppose i could have done better, but i waited until the last minute (senior year) and i didn't study. i only took it once, accepted my score, and forgot about it.

i was pretty satisfied considering all of my friends got 900 - 1100. i read somewhere that 1000 is about average, anyway.

i should have applied myself and shot for 1300, i know i could have gotten it easily. 1400+ is sorta rare, though.

[Yoda]

I haven't taken the SATs. If I were going to, I'd be taking them right about now...but I don't think I will. So, I can't really say what I'd get. I mean, I'm sure I could do fairly well if I threw myself into it...and I still may, just to know that I could have done it. But as of right now, I've got no plans to.

[BrodieMan]

i showed up at 8 am on the saturday of the testing, half asleep with no practice or SAT study courses, and a complete and overwhelming sense of apathy. i walked away with a 12. i'm sure i could have done better and i'm sure you would, too. they're NOT hard.

[Arthur Dent]

I scored 1410 on the SAT, which supposedly translates to 147 IQ (Stanford-Binet).

It actually is pretty accurate, as I actually took an official test in second grade and scored 146.

Here is an interesting site on IQs:

http://user.tninet.se/~sry486j/Index.htm

Apparently Sharon Stone has an IQ of 154.

[BrodieMan]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

that's incredibly high for an SAT score, artie. good job. very very few people do that.

[BrodieMan]

i'm laughing at sharon stone, by the way.

if THAT'S not a good example of a total moron having a high IQ, then i don't know what is. if she can get a 154, pitch the IQ test.

[firegod]

1510

[firegod]

Originally posted by BrodieMan
i'm laughing at sharon stone, by the way.

if THAT'S not a good example of a total moron having a high IQ, then i don't know what is. if she can get a 154, pitch the IQ test.

I do think they are less than a fantastic way to gauge one's brain power.

[BrodieMan]

wow, the highest in our entire school district was a 1500.

you make me feel like a moron.


lol..... oh, god.... i cannot help but laugh at sharon stone. :laugh: sharon...... freakin...... stone....... :laugh:

[firegod]

Originally posted by BrodieMan
wow, the highest in our entire school district was a 1500.

Wow. I find that to be very surprising. My best friend got 1540 and I knew at least 3 other people from my high school that hovered somewhere close to the 1500 mark.

[BrodieMan]

nope. that's freakishly high.

[Yoda]

I've got a friend who finished with like 1550. Really smart guy (incredibly nice, too). I think he considers himself a bit of an underachiever, however. But he's capable of quite a lot.

[BrodieMan]

that's kind of a shame. is he in college? where's he going?

[firegod]

Originally posted by TWTCommish
I've got a friend who finished with like 1550. Really smart guy (incredibly nice, too). I think he considers himself a bit of an underachiever, however. But he's capable of quite a lot.

Commish, is that the 130's IQ guy you mentioned earlier?

[thmilin]

i must defend sharon stone! not only is she now a northern californian and living in San Francisco (and hey, we've got Robin Williams, too) the woman IS very smart. i can't believe you're dissing her! SHe IS a member of MENSA. This is a strong, intelligent woman and I'm sorry that the assumption of 1) being an actor/having chosen a couple cruddy films 2) being a female? 3) having been a model would make one assume that she is a crock of sh|te and not so intelligent after all. I admire her strongly, if you haven't gathered. Not only is she smart and talented the woman has the biggest heart, warmth, grace, god, she's wonderful. Juuust wonderful. If I were a man I'd be trying to marry a woman like her.

Anyway. The subject of net tests. There ARE several extremly legitimate companies who, like the rest of the world, are trying to get online. This includes whatever research they do and whatever information they share because that IS the point of the internet - easy access to information. Research facilities of various sorts (life sciences sector, medicine, tech, all that) are definitely going to be on the web, not just shopping and ezines. Yes, some out there are hokey. Some out there are built by folks who DON'T know what they're doing, or, they're trying to scam you (like a recent episode I saw of King of the Hill where Peggy takes a test that proves her a "genius" of the state and is "encouraged" to buy the list of geniuses in book form). ANd some are out there with legit info that's long been recorded in book format and has just been moved onto the net. Stuff like the Meyer's-Briggs test, which is pretty accurate and which I took in high school. I took the test again online and it was just the same - and so were the results.

I did take an IQ test online (god, it was like 2 hours!) and it was 135. I know i'm not a genius and I know i'm a scatterbrain and I think if we all put our mind to it and exercised discipline and had the appetite for knowledge and analysis we'd all have pushed ourselves at least another 10 pts from our base measurement. then again yes, the tests don't test all the areas of human experience. just what some nerds doing research deem would prove your level of "intelligence" which can be, once again, a very subjective thing.

and onward to SATs, for which the same argument is made. i totally SUCK at word math problems and literally skipped them on my GREs and SAT. Because I can't stand them and knew better than to waste my time f*cking up the problem, so I moved on to do the stuff I DO know how to do. I've practically never gotten a word problem right in my life, seriously. The ones about the train A going from pt A to B at 100 km an hour and if train C comes on the line at 3 pm what time will train B get there? good lord. HELL.

my high school in Seoul, Korea was full of nerds though and a lot of us were overachievers. I was considered run of the mill because I stopped at 3 AP courses rather than the 4 or 5 everyone else took. I took French, U.S. History, and English and everybody else took a Language, U.S. History, English AND Chem and Pre-Calculus. HA! I said screw that sh|t cuz i knew i wasn't gonna survive. A lot of us were terribly wholesome kids, too. in ROTC, 3.5 GPA, 1400+ SATs and like I said, 5 AP courses. made me sick.

My one pride and joy was that for our school 1300+ was common and an 800 on the Math for SAT was not UNCOMMON. BUT - the 800 Verbal was never claimed before and it was mine. mwahahaha, MINE! 550 on the math dude and I really am not ashamed. that's 1350. According to the stanford judge (alma mater, mwahaha) that puts even with my 135 IQ test, hmm?

but anyway, Chris, a question - do you plan to go onto college or only a tech school for specific certifications? there comes a point where freelancing can only get you so far and for a full time career people are going to want validations, certifications, actual training under your belt and a college or tech school would do that for you. And to get IN to such a school you are going to have to be 1) bloody ridh 2) bloody powerful, or 3) have some test scores and crap under your belt to convince them you are worthy. I'd imagine in the next year or so the SATs, however useless in the end they become, they ARE semi-necessary to getting elsewhere in your professional/academic career. Boring as that sounds. god sometimes i think i should have never gone to college and just sat in a cave and written some books. honestly that probably would have gotten me published by now. :mad:

[Sir Toose]

These kinds of tests are questionable at best. I scored very highly on the SAT and my IQ score was also very high but what is the point of measuring any of this? It's certainly no indicator of future success. I have a friend, who is actually my friend's father, who never finished high school. The guy built a multi million dollar waste disposal company in his garage and went public with it. He's a real estate developer now and has huge projects ongoing... I guarantee he never had his IQ tested or took the SAT. I guarantee that if he had he would have scored low but he's one of the smartest guys I know.

I don't put much faith in these "measurements." I work with people everyday who stated on their resume that they got a 1500 on the SAT and they still need detailed instructions to unzip their fly to avoid pi$$ing on themselves. Not one of them can spell, nor can they construct a sentence, yet they scored an 800 on the verbal section (Thmilin, for what it's worth, I believe you actually did :) )

It's not about what some test tells you that you have the potential to do... what it comes down to is 'can you do it?'

(BTW, I don't know where your #'s are coming from but a 154 IQ is genius level... if you scored that highly or better why waste your time talking to me? Go build a rocket or something)

[Yoda]

Originally posted by firegod
Commish, is that the 130's IQ guy you mentioned earlier?
Nope, this is a different guy. I imagine his IQ is higher than 130...but he hasn't done as much as he could have with that obviously large amount of intelligence.

Originally posted by firegod
but anyway, Chris, a question - do you plan to go onto college or only a tech school for specific certifications? there comes a point where freelancing can only get you so far and for a full time career people are going to want validations, certifications, actual training under your belt and a college or tech school would do that for you. And to get IN to such a school you are going to have to be 1) bloody ridh 2) bloody powerful, or 3) have some test scores and crap under your belt to convince them you are worthy. I'd imagine in the next year or so the SATs, however useless in the end they become, they ARE semi-necessary to getting elsewhere in your professional/academic career. Boring as that sounds. god sometimes i think i should have never gone to college and just sat in a cave and written some books. honestly that probably would have gotten me published by now. :mad:
Here's my plan: keep on freelancing and practicing and getting better, read a lot, write some, etc, and when I'm, say, 19 or so, I can go from there. I can still decide to go to college at 19-20 (won't hurt too much to be a year or two late), but, if by 19, I'm doing well with freelancing, I might just keep going.

It is likely I'll take a few formal tech classes somewhere, but you never know. I'm fortunate enough to have talked to a few very wealthy entrepreneurs, and they like what I'm doing. I'm willing to work at Wal-Mart or Burger King or, best of all, to tear ticket stubs all day (that'd be cool. :D), for awhile if I have to. I almost welcome it.

However, it's incredibly unlikely I'll be going for any kind of major degree. The closest I ever see myself coming is some 2-year deal with a tech school, and even that I've got to wonder about; I don't want that "tech guy" label, because that can get sticky. Being thought of by a "tech guy" by any employers I have, I think, will limit me. The ultimate goal is to run my own business, period. I NEED to be able to at some point...I crave working at home like that. I'll be patient if I have to, but for now, I'm gonna try to go nuts over the next year and a half to make it work. And maybe it will. If it does, great. If not, well, then I'll have to re-think things.

[BrodieMan]

i agree completely with toose's "why are you talking to me?" remark. i would expect most people using this forum regularly to be higher than average, but if you're over 150, thats pretty smart. way above the norm, anyway.

[Yoda]

Oh, absolutely. For one, anyone here is obviously using the Internet...so they can't be too dumb. :D Aside from that, it's obvious that all the regulars are intelligent people. I'd be shocked if one of them tested lower than, say, 110-115, if not higher. I've found that intelligent people attract more intelligent people...it seems to snowball.

[thmilin]

yeah, them numbers 150+ and such are mighty high. toose, i was proud of my 800! i sucked at math but at least I got SOMETHING right. maybe those guys lied on their resumes. happens all the time.

yeah chris, do whatcha gotta do. i too have the mad desire to work from home. i hate the work force. unless i find one that's extremely lax AND in the fields that interest me, working from home is pretty much my only option for professional AND creative fulfillment.

[Sir Toose]

That's sort of the path I'm working toward as well... doesn't have to be from home though. I'm doing that freelance... I prefer the office setting just no one elses office but my own. By Dec. of this year I will be there, that's the goal anyways. I hear you thmilin... it just seems like every kid I run across boasts a score of higher than 1300 on the SAT. I don't believe every kid out there is smart enough to do that... I think the average is 900 or something, correct?

[firegod]

Commish,

I tried the IQTest.com test, and got 146. I then took it two more times to test the test. First I tried to get as low a score as I could, and got 40. Then I simply clicked "true" for every answer and put 2 minutes in the time box, resulting in a score of 116. I already knew that IQ tests having only true and false answers are not very reliable; I just wanted to see how high a score one would get by only choosing true. Even though I would say this is a test that shouldn't be trusted in general, I'd also say that a score over 150 is very impressive.

[Yoda]

Well, I took it last night. Did pretty well. To appease Brodie, I won't post it publicly. :D I was tempted to buy the whole profile thingy they offer...but it's pointless, really. 146, yeah, seems good to me, even if the thing isn't too accurate. They claim to be impressively accurate under those circumstances...but I dunno. It's fun anyway.

[patti]

i went out and bought an IQ test booklet at a Barnes and Noble a couple of years ago when i was feeling "mommy dumb"...home with my little girl (an infant at the time) and no other social contact......i've always been pretty smart in school and all, yet i've made some pretty moronic decisions in my time. so?......smart is as smart does?


i took the test in hopes of scoring high and reassuring myself i hadn't lost my brain completely. kids just suck it out of you!! i scored either 124 or 142.....no points for memory that's for sure!! but i was pretty happy with it. i know it doesn't prove much but it made me feel better.
i'd love to take it again. ......maybe i'll check out one of the online tests.

.......but i would agree that tests vary quite alot and also that there are plenty of incredibly insightful, or wise, etc. people out there who wouldn't necessarily score high on a standard IQ test.

also......some pretty whacked people had high IQ's.....ted kazinsky (sp?), ted bundy.....yikes!
let's not forget Hannibal Lector.
:eek:


the High IQ celebrities i have heard about are james woods, jodie foster, and sharon stone.

[BrodieMan]

lol..... we're ALL super-geniuses for having the good taste and obvious brains to be active MoFo members.

let's just leave it at that. :D *brownie points*

[WhiteRabbit]

This has always been a big thing in our household. Intelligence. My mom's IQ is 174, my grandfathers was really high apparently. He took his a long time ago when he signed up for the Marines. They told him they couldn't measure it but it was over 200. My dad never knew his, but my dad was a math genius and that's about all I know. He invented some kind of calculator or something. Whatever. Anyway, my mom never told me mine, but 140 is supposed to be a significant number and when I asked if it was over that she said yes. But I'm glad I don't know mine because it sort of puts a label on you. It makes you underachieve if you don't think its high enough. I'm against them personally because they don't test all the levels of intelligence you can have. According to some smart guy (cant remember his name for the life of me) there are 7 levels whereas the standard IQ test only tests 1 of those levels. I

[matrixmaniac]

I took the test at IQtest.com, and i got 169. i have always been smart though

[Yoda]

Originally posted by matrixmaniac
I took the test at IQtest.com, and i got 169. i have always been smart though
Methinks you need to talk with this dude: :modest:

[BrodieMan]

Originally posted by WhiteRabbit
This has always been a big thing in our household. Intelligence. My mom's IQ is 174, my grandfathers was really high apparently. He took his a long time ago when he signed up for the Marines. They told him they couldn't measure it but it was over 200. My dad never knew his, but my dad was a math genius and that's about all I know. He invented some kind of calculator or something. Whatever. Anyway, my mom never told me mine, but 140 is supposed to be a significant number and when I asked if it was over that she said yes. But I'm glad I don't know mine because it sort of puts a label on you. It makes you underachieve if you don't think its high enough. I'm against them personally because they don't test all the levels of intelligence you can have. According to some smart guy (cant remember his name for the life of me) there are 7 levels whereas the standard IQ test only tests 1 of those levels. I

don't worry about it. :D

really, it's not worth losing sleep over. :nope:

[WhiteRabbit]

i know i know....but in our house, its like, if you dont do well or excel at something, to the guillotine for you. You should see my mom when we discuss school, I ended up dropping out for various reasons. I got my GED and Im gonna head to college, but in my house, there are no exscuses. dun dun dun dun!!!

:eek:

[movievault]

I haven't read the rest of the thread, so please excuse me if I am repeating anything.

IQ's are not an adequate measure of intelligence, nor should they be.

I hang out in #mensa in both Undernet and Efnet, and I usually argue with some people just to get some debate going; I've found myself easily win the debate when it was me versus 6 other mensans many times..

Well, It's just that IQ tests are very very unreliable, and simply do not come close to measuring a persons true intelligence..

I forget what mine is.. I did a couple tests (peer pressure at school + boredom) a few years ago, did pretty well, that is, did pretty well for a logic test.

[jrs]

Originally posted by matrixmaniac
I took the test at IQtest.com, and i got 169.

I took it and the site didn't give me a number.....it said I was "The Chosen One".

[moviefan20]

I believe i had a 120 on mine? i took it on the internet so i don't know how accurate it was.