Shallow people

[FILMFREAK087]

I notice that there is a lot of talk that the media presents negative, unrealistic body images. It seems, more often than not men get blamed for women feeling badly about themselves, but I think that is extremely unfair. Let me explain; so the reasoning is that there is NO MAN who would have anything to do with them because of the size of their breasts? Of course that's not true, it's just they don't want those men, they want the rock star on a motorcycle, who likes big breasts. I'll phrase it in a simple question; why do women get breast implants? ...To attract men, vain, attractive guys. It sure isn't for the guy who treats her right and is a nice guy, because most average guys don't even care. Then they complain about how shallow guys are, well duh! You're seeking out vain jerks. So these women are just as shallow as some men, it's like those men who buy a motorcycle just to attract big breasted bimbos. I am not knocking women, I just wanted to point out that both men and women are guilty. I was just thinking about this today because my sister's friend is considering getting implants.

[Harry Lime]

On the cover of men's magazines - women, on the cover of women's magazines - women.

[FILMFREAK087]

On the cover of men's magazines - women, on the cover of women's magazines - women.

Are you agreeing with me?

[Harry Lime]

Sort of FF.

[mark f]

I don't know; all those weightlifting/physical fitness mags have covers to attract gays IMO and have for over 50 years now. FF, what caused you to start this thread because it seems pretty specific so I'm thinking I'm missing some of this? I'm not saying that you don't have a right to get pissed off at women (or men for that matter) because they do shallow crap. I'm just wondering what caused this specific post. Keep the faith, Buddy.

[FILMFREAK087]

I don't know; all those weightlifting/physical fitness mags have covers to attract gays IMO and have for over 50 years now. FF, what caused you to start this thread because it seems pretty specific so I'm thinking I'm missing some of this? I'm not saying that you don't have a right to get pissed off at women (or men for that matter) because they do shallow crap. I'm just wondering what caused this specific post. Keep the faith, Buddy.

My sister's friend was going on about how men only want big breasts and basically saying they were pigs. All I am saying is that her behavior was in fact very shallow, because she is trying to attract a shallow jerk, when men get criticized for going after attractive women.

[king_of_movies_316]

My sister's friend was going on about how men only want big breasts and basically saying they were pigs. All I am saying is that her behavior was in fact very shallow, because she is trying to attract a shallow jerk, when men get criticized for going after attractive women.

Would i be correct to assume your sister's friend is either unatractive OR that she just wants realy good looking guys and can never get with them?

If so, she is probaly just pissed off at atractive men for rejecting her, but is acting pissed at every single man.

[FILMFREAK087]

Would i be correct to assume your sister's friend is either unatractive OR that she just wants realy good looking guys and can never get with them?

If so, she is probaly just pissed off at atractive men for rejecting her, but is acting pissed at every single man.

That's just it, she's not unattractive, but the guys she wants are all shallow jerks, and so is she! It's not that all men are shallow, it's that every guy she's been with is, she seeks them out, usually Harley riding, overtly macho scumbags.

[7thson]

"Shallow" is not just about flesh. It can include race, money, status, gender, religion, and knowledge. There is no accounting for taste however, and big or small - if one has a sense of humor then the rest is gravy.

[mark f]

Yes, you're right, FF (and 7th), but think about it, even "shallow" people need love. It might be shallow "love" and it probably won't last, but it may be a stepping stone to something bigger or self-aware. I'm at the age where I know too many people who have been on autopilot for far too long. Sometimes I just want to shake them (or punch them, if they think they're macho) until they admit that no matter how much money they have or how many "friends" they have, that they're just superficial people who have no consideration for anybody else whatsoever. Then, I think about how I'm not the Attitude Police and I let things go; at least until it all starts all over again not that far along into the future.

[Used Future]

Yes, you're right, FF (and 7th), but think about it, even "shallow" people need love. It might be shallow "love" and it probably won't last, but it may be a stepping stone to something bigger or self-aware. I'm at the age where I know too many people who have been on autopilot for far too long. Sometimes I just want to shake them (or punch them, if they think they're macho) until they admit that no matter how much money they have or how many "friends" they have, that they're just superficial people who have no consideration for anybody else whatsoever. Then, I think about how I'm not the Attitude Police and I let things go; at least until it all starts all over again not that far along into the future.

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This must be some of the wisdom that comes with age.

I think many (but not all) young people don't really know what they want from life and just get sucked into a rut by shallow garbage the mainstream media throws out. If you let it, it can be a cancer that spreads into every aspect of your life; before you know it you're thirty and completely brainwashed. The frightening thing is, often you don't even know you're being manipulated. What you wear, your attitude towards love, sexuality, material wealth, social status, gender roles, and race is all subtly affected by social attitudes, and in turn these social attitudes have been molded by governments, religions and the media over generations.

It's very subtle, and very gradual, but like a stalectite, just because you can't see it forming, doesn't mean it's not happening.

I would advise people to turn off their televisions during commercial breaks and not to watch the national news programs; The news is specifically designed to terrify you, and the adverts are telling you to be an insecure and hence docile consumer. Lifestyle magazines (aimed at men and women) work in exactly the same way.

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[mark f]

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[7thson]

When I think about "shallow" I do not immediately think of "young" people. They still need to learn a few things. ;). To me it is more like those that ignore friends and family and kinda do things only for themselves and fail to see others needs. Mark is right though that usually these people need something and either cannot or will not admit it to anyone much less themselves. Sometimes they admit it, but have such a useless feeling and nothing matters anymore. Sometimes people need a good laugh or a hug or a kick in the pants, something to kick start them and get em going again. Sometimes people are not "shallow" they are just having a bad day and it may seem that way. As far as being brainwashed, no way am I brainwashed.

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[mark f]

I enjoy Diet Coke, but that's not an advertisement.

[7thson]

I enjoy Diet Coke, but that's not an advertisement.

That is what they want you to think.