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Yoda

12-16-08, 04:02 PM

This is it, ladies and gents. For all the metaphorical marbles.

We've got another Thursday game this week -- Indianapolis against Jacksonville. Doesn't look like this is going to affect the game, though, as I'm almost certainly sitting Addai and PW doesn't have anyone from either team. So we've got all week to trash talk, mail each other flaming bags of excrement, etc.

The matchups this week are very interesting. Let's take a look at each team:

PW's Odd Squad (10-5)

QB: Matt Cassel is the player most likely to swing the game one way or the other, to my mind. He's up against Arizona, who actually has a middling pass defense (16th) in terms of yardage. Ominously, though, they've given up 31 passing touchdowns -- highest in the NFL by a significant margin (NE is 2nd with 26). I'm expecting a big day from Cassel, which I'll have to make up elsewhere...

RB: ...and a good place to start would be with Michael Turner, who's up against Minnesota's #1 run defense. Side-note: Pittsburgh has held the top slot all year, but fell into 2nd this past week as the Steelers were up against the Ravens (who run a lot), and the Vikings were up against the Cardinals (who don't).

So, it could be a rough day for Turner. Might not be much better for Portis, who's up against the 5th-ranked Philadelphia run defense and has struggled mightily over the last few games. The last three weeks he's put up 4, 4, and 9 points, and his last score came about two months ago, in Week 7.

WR: Anquan Boldin has a decent matchup against New England, who as I mentioned above are 2nd in the NFL in passing TDs allowed. Donald Driver has been rock-solid lately, putting up 10, 9, and 9 points the last few games.

TE: Kevin Boss is up against a decent Carolina pass defense, and has just one reception each of the last two games. Basically, if he gets in the end zone, he's good, and if he doesn't, then he's probably not a factor.

K & DEF: If there's any kicker in the league that could win a game for you, it's probably Tennessee's Rob Bironas. This is ironically made worse by Pittsburgh's defense, which is the best Red Zone defense in the NFL, giving up TDs just 31.7% of the time, and is one of only three NFL teams with more field goals than TDs allowed in the Red Zone. This may be bad for Tennessee, but it's good for Bironas.

PW's defense is Miami, which has been decent (14th overall) and is up against the 26th-ranked KC offense.

11 Angry Men (11-4)

QB: As mentioned above, Tyler Thigpen is up against Miami, a solid defense with almost as many picks (12) as passing TDs allowed (15). He's taken me this far, though, and I'm playing him. One of the nice things about Thigpen is that he tacks on a few points scrambling every week; he's had at least 20 yards rushing in nine straight games, and had 40 or more in three of his last five.

WR: It's all about the wideouts this week. Larry Fitzgerald has the same matchup as Boldin. Calvin Johnson is up against New Orleans' 26th-ranked pass defense. Which means that Marques Colston is up against Detroit and their 21st-ranked pass defense. Here's hoping the NO-DET game is on where I am, because that could be fun to watch.

RB: Great matchup for Steve Slaton, too, who's been a beast down the stretch and draws Oakland's 31st-ranked run defense. The man has two 100-yard games against Tennessee under his belt this year (no one else even has one) and has put up, 31, 15, and 13 points the last three weeks.

On the flip side, things could be tough for Ryan Grant, who struggled this past week and is up against Chicago's 8th-ranked run defense. Strangely, though, the last time these teams met Green Bay won 37-3 and Grant shredded Chicago for 145 yards and a TD.

The Bears are hard to figure out here -- the overall ranking is good, but they've gotten killed in a few games, like the one mentioned above, and their two games against Minnesota where Adrian Peterson totaled 121 and 131 yards on the ground. The Bears are 28th against the pass, so perhaps their opponents are just throwing more than running. The numbers on this are mixed -- they're 14th in rushing attempts per game, right around the middle.

TE: What's there to say? Tony Gonzalez has completely run away with the TE scoring lead this year. He's got at least 15 points in four straight games, and at least 9.7 points in eight of his last nine.

K & DEF: I'm probably going with NO's Garrett Hartley again, who's up against Detroit and should get a few points off of XPs alone.

Pittsburgh's defense is up against a strong Titan offense, but it's almost all rush-based, and no one's really been able to run over Pittsburgh yet. Either way, the Steelers had the #2 fantasy defense this season, so they're playing.

That's it! I'll probably be in this thread cheering and despairing back and forth come Sunday. How about you, PW? Either way, best of luck -- here's hoping it's exciting, fun, and injury-free. :)

Swedish Chef

12-16-08, 04:08 PM

I love that the two best teams in our league are starting Matt Cassel and Tyler Thigpen at quarterback.

Sedai

12-16-08, 04:22 PM

I think I will be here, as well, cheering on my team of back-ups, while Chef destroys me. ;)

Yoda

12-16-08, 05:15 PM

I love that the two best teams in our league are starting Matt Cassel and Tyler Thigpen at quarterback.
Yeah, that's pretty funny. That's how it goes, though, I guess.

I just checked, and half my original team is gone -- I have 8 out of my 15 draft picks. And I'm not even playing two of my first four picks (Addai and Ben) this week. Five of PW's original fifteen draft picks are still on his roster. Five! They are: Portis, Barber, Turner (his first three picks), the Chicago defense (his 8th), and Rob Bironas (his second kicker, taken in the 14th).

By the by, you (Swedish) have nine of your original 15, and Sedai has seven (six of them were his first six choices). TONGO has just five of his original 15.

In other words, the top five scoring teams this year all have have at least 40% of their initial roster gone. I guess this is probably a by-product of simply being an active owner. IE: most teams are going to have at least half their picks not really pan out, and the teams that win are the ones that react accordingly week in and week out.

I imagine this difference would be less pronounced if all 12 owners were highly engaged. The teams lower in the standings, based on just a cursory overview, seem to have far more of the original roster -- The Face Huggers have 11 of their original 15, for example, and Tupac Resurrection have 10.

Powdered Water

12-17-08, 09:33 PM

Slug

12-17-08, 10:29 PM

Man this has been fun, hasn't it?

Yes it has.
In fact, I'll go on record as saying some of the most fun I have ever had is in playing in our league.

I hope we can get a few more MoFo's to join up next year

I hope we do too.

So yeah, Good luck Chris and Good luck to both Seds and Swedish in the third place game!

That goes for me too.

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TONGO

12-18-08, 09:05 AM

Whatever suggestions I made to try the NFL.com Fantasy Football next year please ignore them. I thought they had a consolation playoffs, but they dont.

I wouldnt play Thigpen, and urge you to play Ben & Hines Yoda. Even though theyre up against the Titans they should generate more points imo.

I knew I was riddled with injuries this year, but to lose 2/3rds to injury is just wrong. I shouldve did a scam with Slug and got Brett Favre. Alls Im saying is next year its on...on like Donkey Kong!

Yoda

12-18-08, 11:14 AM

I'm not changing a thing this week. I don't really think it will help. I kind of think you're going to walk away with this thing Chris, and if that's the case then good for you.

I don't like the majority of my matchups and I'm still not sure if Barber is going to play either. I think Choice may end up staying in there either way unless I am somehow convinced he's totally healthy. Toes are so dicey so I'm not real optimistic. The Vikings did lose their best run stopper last week though so it may be that Turner will be fine.
I'll be surprised if I win it in a walk, based on Cassel alone. And I think a bad game for Turner could still be 7 points, too. I feel good about my chances largely because of my wideouts, but I'm genuinely worried about Thigpen going against the Miami defense, and the possibility of Grant laying an egg against Chicago. The Thigpen game is particularly big since it looks like you're playing the Miami defense, too, so that could be a big swing in either direction.

Man this has been fun, hasn't it? How cool is it that two rookie owners are in the inaugural MoFo bowl and I might add, probably addicted for life to fantasy football now. Probably a good thing. It certainly beats smoking crack.
Oh yeah. I got bummed about two weeks ago when I realized it was coming to a close, and I'd have to stop listening to fantasy football podcasts to and from work and all that. I'm hooked.

I think it's going to be a lot harder next year, though, particular when it comes to the waiver wire, simply because I expect most of the owners will be very engaged. I lucked out this year by nabbing both Slaton and Thigpen on waivers. I don't think that kind of thing'll happen again next season.

I just wanted to give a big thank you to Seds for all of his pointers and for turning me onto Rotoworld.com. What a great site and it has been a big help.

I hope we can get a few more MoFo's to join up next year and hopefully Bobby will be able to be a little more proactive as well, he had a good looking team for a good chunk of the year but his inability to update his lineup really hurt him.
Yeah, Bobby clearly follows football and has played before, so I think he'll be active next year. And I agree completely on Sedai -- very gracious of him to help some of us newbies out with various strategies early in the year, exchange lineup advice, etc. We appreciate it, Mike. :)

So yeah, Good luck Chris and Good luck to both Seds and Swedish in the third place game!
Good luck to you as well. :)

Yoda

12-18-08, 11:17 AM

I wouldnt play Thigpen, and urge you to play Ben & Hines Yoda. Even though theyre up against the Titans they should generate more points imo.
Gah, don't say that! I'd just about settled on my lineup. :p

I can't play Hines, because I've got Fitzgerald, Johnson, and Colston, and the latter two have great matchups.

I could play Ben over Thigpen, particularly with Haynesworth and Van Bosch out, but the Titan defense is still very good and the Steeler offensive line has been so unpredictable this year. Meanwhile, Thigpen's at home and has had something like one mediocre game in the last two months, and with a few points each week in rushing yards, he's usually a safe play, which is all I'm looking for.

It's not a slam dunk, but I don't know if I can bring myself to pull the trigger. I like Hines a lot more than Ben this week at the moment, but I've just got a ridiculous glut of WRs.

Powdered Water

12-18-08, 11:30 AM

I wouldn't play Ben over Thiggy at this point. I may end up switching my defense at the last minute simply because Chicago is at home this week, probably not though. Their secondary isn't very good. Miami is probably the safest choice. They haven't given up a Touchdown in three weeks if you can believe that!

Sedai

12-18-08, 11:34 AM

Housh is now down with a hand injury, so I am playing a bunch of chumps this week, methinks... My team is decimated with injuries right now. I get the ribbon for "Team that ran out of gas by week 16!"

I was so glad to help everyone this year, and I was thinking last night, that we are just scratching the surface. I am sure the level of skill and knowledge will rise considerably with a group focusing on getting better. I have been in a vacuum up until now, strategy-wise.

Good luck to all!

Powdered Water

12-18-08, 11:43 AM

Do you have another league that you have been in now for a few years? Like a TD only type of league? It might be fun to have a few MoFo's that want to get a little more hardcore join that league with you next year if you have any openings that is.

Sedai

12-18-08, 12:07 PM

This is my favorite league so far. I am also in the same league I was in last year, which is only a 10-player shallow league. I only know two of the people in that league, so I don;t have as much fun playing in it.

This year, because LT wanted to start learning about FFB, I also played a third league, which is another 10 person deal with 9 complete strangers in Yahoo Public Leagues. This is the team I made the Bowl with. I managed the team, and LT used it as a jump off point to start learning who various players are etc., while rooting for players on her team when we watched the game. We autodrafted the team, and the only changes I made were at WR and QB all year.

I must say I really like PPR (or half-PPR in our case) a whole lot, as it adds an extra level to the strategy, and makes WRs less horrible to deal with, although WR is still my least favorite skill position in FFB. MoFo is the only PPR I played in.

Next season, I will post any available slots in my other leagues for MoFos to play in if they would like.

Yoda

12-18-08, 12:23 PM

Aye, good call -- I think next year is going to see a big rise in skill and difficulty for all involved. My guess would be that everyone involved this year had a great time and will definitely want to be back, and a few MoFos will want to give it a try after seeing it unfold all year. I expect it to be very challenging next season.

Totally agree about half-PPR. I'm probably repeating myself, but I love that the top scorers at each position are relatively close to each other. The top QBs are around 300, and the top QBs and RBs are both around 200, with RBs having a slight edge. I think it really forces all of us to become familiar with a wider array of players.

I'll probably post in the original thread next week to discuss any potential rule changes, just to get some quick thoughts and feedback while the season is still fresh in everyone's mind. I've got a few I think might be good, and a few I'm not sure about. Can't hurt to bounce it all around a little. :)

Sedai

12-18-08, 12:45 PM

Yeah, I would like to step it up to full PPR next year, if others are cool with that.

Maybe then I won't spend so much time yelling at my TV while watching WRs... ;)

Powdered Water

12-18-08, 12:49 PM

Sound good to me. I imagine that basically means that the scoring will be even higher than it is now yeah?

Sedai

12-18-08, 12:58 PM

Yes.

Yoda

12-18-08, 01:30 PM

Interesting idea. I'm open to it. I imagine that would vaunt the top WRs even higher than the top RBs, though probably not overly so. Our draft would be all over the place, position-wise!

Was toying around with other ideas like including special teams along with defenses (I'm torn on that one), or maybe dropping kickers (torn on that, too). I don't feel strongly about either but thought it worth mentioning. Was thinking we should probably deduct 2 points instead of 1 for an INT, too. It's a big deal in the game, but a very small deal in terms of scoring right now.

The only thing I think is important, though, is requiring some kind of double-confirmation next season in the week prior to the draft, as well as just making a few unspoken rules formally spoken. For example, teams whose season has ended can't drop their studs for playoff teams to grab. Stuff like that, which is obvious, but should really be put down into a list of rules.

Was going to put all this out there in another thread, but meh, who cares?

mikeython1

12-18-08, 01:35 PM

Is your league a keeper league or a re-draft?

Yoda

12-18-08, 01:38 PM

Re-draft; this is the first year.

I'm open to the idea of a keeper league at some point, but probably not for awhile yet, and only in addition to this one, most likely.

Powdered Water

12-18-08, 02:10 PM

Sedai

12-18-08, 02:25 PM

INT are -2 in my other leagues, and I like that number for the penalty. Not too stiff, but it makes a difference in scoring while -1 is quite marginal.

BTW - Rotoworld has a new game called Snapdraft, which I am thinking of checking out. Some sort of fun drafting game, perhaps?

mikeython1

12-18-08, 02:34 PM

Sedai

12-18-08, 02:49 PM

Wow... Certainly not Bush. He's a bust every year (I had him this season). Wayne is on a down slide and has certainly lost a step. I would take Manning to lose the 10th round pick, followed by Moss and... Brown, I guess...

Meanwhile, what about choosing some of this year's stellar rookies? Forte? Johnson? Not sure how the keeper stuff works... I don't like really any of the players on that list for future upside, save Manning...

mikeython1

12-18-08, 03:02 PM

I know I really dont want to keep any of them!

Yoda

12-18-08, 03:27 PM

I like the idea of INT's costing more. Especially in this format. I also like the re-drafting idea. I can't see myself going after Matt Cassel next year especially if Brady is healthy. So yeah, let's re-draft and keep it interesting every year. Besides the NFL is just so damn fluid from year to year that I doubt I am ever going to have the same team I drafted at the end of the year, unless I don't update my roster that is...
Oh yeah, it'd be crazy for us to move from a redraft league to a keeper league after the fact. Totally unfair, as any number of decisions would be made differently. I'm with you in being skeptical of the viability of such a league in any circumstance, though. I know it's done in plenty of leagues, but it seems like it'd be less fun in football than in, say, baseball.

By double confirmation do you mean for the live draft? Or for joining the league?
Both, in a way. IE: anyone who wants to play must confirm that they still want (and have time to run) a team the week before the draft itself. We'd have to make this clear from the beginning, of course, but I think it'll help. Anyone who misses out can choose to be a reserve for anyone who fails to confirm.

This sounds harsh, I suppose, but it should weed out anyone who likes the idea of playing a month before the season, but has their enthusiasm wane, or ends up busier than they thought they'd be.

Powdered Water

12-18-08, 04:34 PM

Need some advice for my league for keepers next year. I can only keep three.Who would you keep?

Clinton Portis-1
Ronnie Brown-5
Reggie Bush-6
Santana Moss-8
Reggie Wayne-2
Eli Manning-10

The number next to each player is the round I would lose a pick from.

As a Portis owner I would probably keep him, he was pretty productive for much of the season before Coach Zorn started second guessing himself too much. Losing a first round pick might be a little too high though. I think I'd probably still keep him though. If you kept him and dropped all the rest I bet you could still have a pretty good draft. Do you have to keep 3?

BTW - Rotoworld has a new game called Snapdraft, which I am thinking of checking out. Some sort of fun drafting game, perhaps?

I started to look at that a bit this weekend but didn't really get into it. It did sound sort of interesting.

Both, in a way. IE: anyone who wants to play must confirm that they still want (and have time to run) a team the week before the draft itself. We'd have to make this clear from the beginning, of course, but I think it'll help. Anyone who misses out can choose to be a reserve for anyone who fails to confirm.

This sounds harsh, I suppose, but it should weed out anyone who likes the idea of playing a month before the season, but has their enthusiasm wane, or ends up busier than they thought they'd be.

Doesn't sound harsh to me. Besides, this is easy enough to learn so if someone did want to drop out maybe we could get ourselves another first timer to become addicted to this thing.

TONGO

12-18-08, 05:25 PM

Whatever the hell you two are talking about I want in. Willing to learn whatever system to keep this successful formula running. Without a doubt having a forum as a backdrop to talk...well b.s. basically about our weekly angst, and dramas has heightened the sizzle of this fantasy season.

Yoda

12-18-08, 06:24 PM

Quick note for PW: apparently Arizona is considering resting Boldin this week, given that they're locked into their playoff spot and he's got a minor shoulder injury. Just thought I'd mention it, particularly since you don't have a third WR on your bench at the moment.

Could be a real big swing here; losing Boldin would be a big blow for you, as he's probably got the best matchup of any of your players this week. And, of course, with Boldin out Fitzgerald figures to get more targets, too. So this could be a big deal.

Wouldn't be the championship without some last-minute drama, eh? ;)

Powdered Water

12-18-08, 06:57 PM

Thanks, I caught a sniff of that yesterday while searching out injury reports. And yeah, this sucks. I'm not surprised really. The Cardinals really can't improve their playoff position much by winning or losing. Add to that the fact that the weather may be pretty bad and you have a recipe for an ass whoopin'.

I do have Toomer on the bench and there isn't really anyone else out there so I may just have to play him.

Sedai

12-18-08, 11:21 PM

Game on, Sweed! :D

Manning and Clark are both doing well so far...

Slug

12-19-08, 12:21 AM

Even though the Bubblebutt's suck,they still had two all-pro quarterbacks.

Elias Manning.
Brett Favre.http://s30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/bicepless/th_DeanHoward.jpg

What sucked most of the time were.

running backs.
defense.
kickers.
receivers.
coaching.

http://s30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/bicepless/th_549014590.jpg

Sedai

12-19-08, 10:16 AM

Aw, Slug, you're a great coach! :)

I hope you play next year!

Did I mention Manning and Clark did well last night?

Oh... ;)

Powdered Water

12-19-08, 10:19 AM

That's a rather large pile of vomit. Yeesh!

Powdered Water

12-20-08, 01:15 PM

I am so going to get my ass kicked. Half my team may be out. It appears I may need about 45 from Cassel, 35 from Turner and another 30 from some guy named Choice to even make this game interesting.

*sigh*

Yoda

12-20-08, 01:31 PM

Yeah, the Boldin thing is really lame for you. I might get hit by it a tiny bit if they bench Warner in the second half, too. Then again, if they're not playing Boldin or Warner at that point, I have to wonder if they won't bench Fitzgerald, too. They don't have anything to play for, but I think I have to play him anyway.

I think it's still pretty up in the air, for a few reasons. I think Cassel lighting up the Cardinals is still pretty likely, for one, and I think Ryan Grant could have a pretty bad game, and perhaps not even play much.

The big wild card is the Miami-KC game, though. I've got Thigpen and Gonzalez going, and you're playing their defense. So if Miami shuts down KC, not only will you score big, but you'll kill a fourth of my lineup, too.

Anyway, given some the matchups this week that's the kind of risk-reward situation you want to be in.

Swedish Chef

12-20-08, 09:36 PM

I don't mind getting beat by Peyton Manning for the "Who's More Of A Loser? Championship Game" because Peyton Manning is a Superbowl winning quarterback who's easily the MVP of the NFL this season. But getting beat by Tashard Choice still stings.

And, yeah, Arizona sucks for not trying to win in these last two weeks. How can they feel good about hosting a playoff game with an 8-8 record? How flippin lame is that?

Yoda

12-20-08, 09:42 PM

NahI don't mind getting beat by Peyton Manning for the "Who's More Of A Loser? Championship Game" because Peyton Manning is a Superbowl winning quarterback who's easily the MVP of the NFL this season. But getting beat by Tashard Choice still stings.
I might be stinging from the same thing before long -- Choice had 5 touches on the Cowboys' first drive and scored a TD; 4 rushes, 1 catch. Nobody else on the offensive unit other than Romo has touched the ball. No sir, I don't like it.

And, yeah, Arizona sucks for not trying to win in these last two weeks. How can they feel good about hosting a playoff game with an 8-8 record? How flippin lame is that?
Extremely. And we might have something similar happen in the AFC West.

I'm finding the ideas of divisions kinda silly these days. I know it's semi-regional, but really, who cares? Rivalries don't have to be regional -- they can come about through regular matchups, too. Being the best in a 4-team division isn't necessarily all that impressive.

I've heard some people suggest that all division winners must win 9 games, or else a wild card team gets their spot. I think I like that idea.

Yoda

12-20-08, 09:46 PM

...and Choice just rushed for a 29-yard gain. Still the only non-Romo Cowboy with a touch (he's got 7 of them now). Yikes.

Swedish Chef

12-20-08, 09:55 PM

Extremely. And we might have something similar happen in the AFC West.

I'm finding the ideas of divisions kinda silly these days. I know it's semi-regional, but really, who cares? Rivalries don't have to be regional -- they can come about through regular matchups, too. Being the best in a 4-team division isn't necessarily all that impressive.

I've heard some people suggest that all division winners must win 9 games, or else a wild card team gets their spot. I think I like that idea.

At least in the AFC West, though, both teams are actually trying to win the games.

I dunno, I like the divisions. They give you 6 games in the regular season that are actually more meaningful than the other ten. And it certainly does cultivate long term rivalries, so it's cool to see those teams play home and homes during the season, instead of them meeting only once. Considering you're a Steelers fan, doesn't it add a little extra something to the games when Pitt plays Cincinnati or Cleveland?

A team with a better record could get left out, sure, but if that team had played better within their own division, they would've made the playoffs. If one of those people you're talking about is Bill Simmons, keep in mind he's a Patriots fan and the only reason why he's made mention of the 9 wins idea so much this year is because there's a good chance the 11-5 Patriots will miss out on the playoffs. But if the Pats didn't get their asses handed to them by Miami in week 3 or whatever, they wouldn't be in that position.

Yoda

12-20-08, 10:20 PM

Don't get me wrong: I don't think divisions are without merit. It adds to the games with teams like Baltimore and Cincy (though not Cleveland -- that doesn't need anything to have some oomph to it). But it would add to a game against the Seahawks, too, and that's what galls me. The regional thing doesn't matter much, so we're left with a series of games that are somewhat aribitrarily more important.

The idea of division games is kind of nice sometimes, I'm just not entirely convinced it's worth those instances in which a genuinely superior team misses out on a playoff spot simply because they were unlucky enough to play in the wrong division.

A team with a better record could get left out, sure, but if that team had played better within their own division, they would've made the playoffs.
Isn't this circular? Defending the idea of divisions by pointing out that teams would make the playoffs anyway if they played well in their own division?

Anyway, it just seems quite lame to me that a team can simply have the misfortune of being in a particularly tough division. The Philadelphia Eagles beat the crap out of the Cardinals earlier this year, but they're probably going home in a couple of weeks, while Arizona, as you pointed out, will be hosting a playoff game.

If one of those people you're talking about is Bill Simmons, keep in mind he's a Patriots fan and the only reason why he's made mention of the 9 wins idea so much this year is because there's a good chance the 11-5 Patriots will miss out on the playoffs. But if the Pats didn't get their asses handed to them by Miami in week 3 or whatever, they wouldn't be in that position.
Aye, Simmons is one of the people I've heard float the idea. And I've no doubt his reasons are self-interested...but I still think it's a good idea.

Powdered Water

12-20-08, 11:04 PM

You two don't like my Tashard Choice pick up? My arm hurts a little from patting myself on the back but other than that I'm doing OK.

He's halfway to the 30 I asked for so lets hope he got himself a nice big double dose of steroids during halftime eh? Eh?

Powdered Water

12-20-08, 11:13 PM

Why isn't this game on the tube? What's up with that?

Yoda

12-20-08, 11:13 PM

Another accursed NFL Network game, I believe.

Powdered Water

12-20-08, 11:17 PM

Bah! Not gonna do it.

Hey, have you checked out the little stat tracker game thing over at NFL.com? It kind of the same as ours only prettier. It seems to update a little faster too. I like it.

Yoda

12-20-08, 11:48 PM

Haven't seen it, but I'll have a look.

Choice is coming up on 20 points. He's really setting the stage for some big drama tomorrow...

Sedai

12-20-08, 11:50 PM

I always have most of the games running live over on NFL.com. On any given Sunday (heh), I usually have 5 tabs running with games on NFL.com, with the live game coverage up, a tab on MoFo, a tab on Rotoworld, and a tab on yahoo... I have Stat Tracker running, too...

Powdered Water

12-20-08, 11:51 PM

It's pretty slick, from the NFL.com home page just click on the scoreboard at the top for whichever game you want to watch live. Its free (which is nice) and its a little more detailed. Nothing earth shattering or anything but its pretty cool.

Sedai

12-21-08, 11:03 AM

I like watching the games that I have no coverage on. For instance, the Baltimore Dallas game, in which McClain went for an 82 yard TD run in garbage time. ;)

TONGO

12-21-08, 11:40 AM

Nice! Reggie Wayne brought 20 points. Been awhile. Oh Im gonna miss this. All along I thought the Replicants were going to be the team to beat.

Sedai

12-21-08, 12:03 PM

Up to 50 MPH winds for the CIN/CLE game... I have to sit Housh, methinks...

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 12:07 PM

I need a receiver... do they sell those at 7-Eleven?

Sedai

12-21-08, 12:17 PM

I am playing Devery Henderson :indifferent:

The Saints are playing Detroit, so I have to play Henderson over Housh in the Cyclone Bowl.

Yoda

12-21-08, 01:11 PM

Today's the day. :) Best of luck, PW!

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 01:29 PM

Yeah man! Good luck to you as well. I think I'm going to need it, especially if I don't get good days out of Cassel and Turner.

I like Turner's chances, the Falcon's have had some pretty big games in Minnesota back through the years so I hope that continues.

Yoda

12-21-08, 01:49 PM

Yeah, the Choice game is really big -- it gives you a lot of ways to win even if all 3 of my wideouts go off (which is looking very possible).

Turner should run well, but didn't last time against the Vikings. Meanwhile, Grant shouldn't run well, but did last time against the Bears. Oy.

Game time!

Yoda

12-21-08, 02:14 PM

Gah, Thigpen picked off. Miami was already up 7-0 and is in the Red Zone again. Of course, I don't mind them leading, so long as it keeps Thiggy throwing.

New England marched down the field, but the TD went to Sammy Morris.

Yoda

12-21-08, 02:25 PM

33-yard TD strike for Thigpen. Not to Gonzalez, but hey, I'll take it.

Meanwhile, Ben fumbles at the 1 yard line and the Titans recover. Pfft. Pittsburgh defense is smothering the Titan offense, so it might not matter, but that was frustrating to watch.

Yoda

12-21-08, 02:32 PM

You've got to be kidding me. Ben was hit in the air on that fumble, landed funny, and it looks like Leftwich is coming into the game.

Meanwhile, Harrison fell hard on his side, came back out for a play, and then went back to the sidelines and didn't come back. Arguably our two most important players this year. Here's hoping they're okay. To this point it's been amazing to see how many injuries and difficulties the Steelers have overcome, but it'd be unbelievable if either of these guys were significantly hurt at this point in the season.

Another New England TD, but again, it's on the ground. Awfully lucky.

EDIT: Ben's coming out after all. Whew.

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 02:33 PM

I think its probably safe to say that Kansas City has found themselves a Quarterback. That guy has been unbelievable.

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 02:39 PM

Whew! Colston doesn't make the catch and then Duece gets in. Sweet.

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 02:44 PM

Flippin' Kansas City man... last 6 plays have all been shotgun and 4 of them were no huddle.

Way to play for pride there you bunch of ass clowns!

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 02:48 PM

And of course they go for it on 4th down. I hope somebody breaks his legs.

In a nice way...

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 02:49 PM

There's a nice little dink for Cassel! ShhhhweeeeeT!

Yoda

12-21-08, 02:52 PM

Gah, not good. I guess I should consider myself lucky that he's only got 1 so far, though.

Speaking of not good, Ben gets hit again, fumbles again, and the Titans recover again. Meh. Hate to sound like a homer, but with our defense, this kind of craziness is the only way we really lose. 10-0 Tennessee.

But yeah, Thigpen looks really solid. I'll be really interested to see what he can do next year. The fact that he scrambles a few times each game makes him really interesting as a fantasy player, too.

Yoda

12-21-08, 02:53 PM

Speak of the devil...Thigpen to Gonzalez! 13+ point play!

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 02:54 PM

What the hell man? No huddle and shotgun every single play? Maybe they should have tried this out oh say I don't know... how about at the beginning of the year? Sh*t.

Yoda

12-21-08, 02:57 PM

I'm not sure about the no-huddle part, but they've been running their offense out of the shotgun pretty much all the time. I think I read that they did it at first to help Thigpen out, because it's what he used in college, and it's worked well enough that they've just kept on using it. Just saw the highlight: what an effort from Gonzalez.

Meanwhile, Fitzgerald just got his first catch. Arizona's getting killed and the game means nothing to them, so he's probably only got a little more time to do something before they pull him out of the game...

Yoda

12-21-08, 03:02 PM

TD Steelers! Beautiful diving 31-yard catch for Holmes on a perfect throw from Ben. It's a game again.

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 03:06 PM

Man... Thigpen is just killing me!

Yoda

12-21-08, 03:09 PM

Johnson gets this TD, though, so not too much damage on that drive. Hopefully Miami will keep putting up points to keep the KC offense in the air, though I imagine they'll pass a fair amount either way.

Meanwhile, so-so games for Colston and Calvin so far. No TDs between them, though, and Fitzgerald still has just one catch. I'm gonna need a bigger margin from them, given all the players you have going in the 4 and 8 PM games.

Yoda

12-21-08, 03:10 PM

16 yard scramble for Cassel. New England knocking on the door again...

Yoda

12-21-08, 03:17 PM

TD, Cassel to Welker.

If this were any other team, I'd be okay with this because I'd assumed a 28-0 lead would cause them to rest some starters in the 2nd half, but these are the Patriots, so they might very well keep throwing.

Semi-good news: Miami scores again, re-taking the lead over KC.

Yoda

12-21-08, 03:31 PM

Pfft. Beautiful 43-yard TD catch by Calvin called back. No first-half TD for Fitzgerald, Calvin, OR Colston. Ow.

Thigpen's matching Cassel to this point, which is much better than I could have asked for, but I'm going to need a couple of TDs from my receivers. We're about even right now, and both your WRs and RBs have yet to play. I'm gonna need to build up a lead before the next round of games start...

Yoda

12-21-08, 03:36 PM

Thiggy throws a 32-yard pass, then runs for 27! More of the latter, Thig...it's worth 2 and a half times as many points...

EDIT: and then he runs it in from 8 yards out! Wow, what a first half for Thigpen. He can't single-handedly bail out my receivers, but this'll help.

Sedai

12-21-08, 03:38 PM

Both my games going well today. :)

Yoda

12-21-08, 03:41 PM

Aye, you're putting up some ridiculous numbers. Manning, Clark, and McClain all put up 20+!

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 03:46 PM

Both of our QB's are just ridiculous.

Yoda

12-21-08, 03:47 PM

You're telling me. Cassel, 76 yards to Moss for the TD. Wow...both QBs above 30 points now.

Yoda

12-21-08, 04:03 PM

!!!!!! 94-yard TD catch for Colston! Are you kidding me? I started checking out other stat trackers to make sure it wasn't an error. Figured it was probably 70, at least. Nope. So far everyone's got it down the same.

Amazing...that's what I needed. Still have just a 10-point lead, though. I don't think that'll be enough heading into the later games, but we'll see.

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 04:03 PM

Not that I'm complaining but why did Marques Colston just have 8.80 points taken away from him?

Yoda

12-21-08, 04:08 PM

GAH. I knew it must have been a stat tracker error. He got it taken away because they originally had him down for a 94-yard TD catch, when it was really a 6-yarder.

The play before there was an odd -24 yard pass, which I figured was wrong. Sometimes they'll have a play that's negative instead of positive, which means when the next play's a touchdown, or something like that, it gets yardage it shouldn't, which they usually correct a few minutes later.

ESPN had the same thing, though, so I thought it was real for a moment there. But I guess they probably use the same source. Meh. I'll take it, it's still a TD, but I was really freaking out for a moment there.

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 04:10 PM

Some more possible good news for you is that Warner should be done for Arizona after this series. Why he even started the second half is beyond me, but anyway Leinart is getting ready to come in so Fitzy may get a few more looks. Warner has been terrible.

Sedai

12-21-08, 04:12 PM

The 8.8 went to my WR, Henderson, the Saints deep threat...

Yoda

12-21-08, 04:13 PM

Hm, that could be good, but I dunno. Bad as Warner has been, I dunno that Leinart will be any better. And it's possible Fitzgerald comes out, too. Really diappointing. Knew he probably wouldn't have a massive game and might not play the whole way, but he's only got 1 catch for 10 yards.

Sedai

12-21-08, 04:14 PM

Damn, I was hoping Thomas would run that in... :-/

Yoda

12-21-08, 04:15 PM

Another TD for Colston! Just 3 yards, but I'm not complaining. Whew. Far from over, but this provides some much-needed breathing room.

Particularly with New England in Cardinal territory again...

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 04:16 PM

I'm drafting Wes Welker next year.

Yoda

12-21-08, 04:18 PM

In a PPR or half-PPR league, he's a top-tier guy, yeah.

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 04:21 PM

How do you get an unsportsman like conduct penalty when the other team is lining up for a field goal?

Yoda

12-21-08, 04:23 PM

No idea. Totally unacceptable, though.

Those calls are always so nebulous. You can trash talk, but certain things are deemed over the line and get a flag. It'd better have been pretty flippin' bad to call such a crucial penalty, though.

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 04:26 PM

No mother dissin'. No talking about retarded family members... stuff like that.

Anyway, I am sure glad I played Miami's defense today they have been stellar, have they not?

Yoda

12-21-08, 04:32 PM

:laugh: Yeah, that didn't work out so well. It was a tough call, though. On one hand, Thigpen's been finding ways to move the ball all year, and Miami hasn't played ANY cold weather games this season. On the other, they'd gone 3 games without giving up a TD, which is pretty insane.

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 04:37 PM

Of course though as Seds mentioned a few weeks ago all I had to do was complain and they gave me 2 points so yeah, what a bunch of losers! :p

Sedai

12-21-08, 04:39 PM

Chef's team is exploding.

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 04:39 PM

Looks like you have the Titans right where you want them eh?

Time to turn on the juice and see what shakes loose!

Yoda

12-21-08, 04:40 PM

Probably switching from New York's Carney to Denver's Prater at K. Both kickers are at home, but winds are going to pick up tonight for the NY game.

It's a tough call. I've been looking at Red Zone stats the last few weeks, which is tricky. As I alluded to in the breakdown of our matchup, you want a bad defense, but not a defense so bad that it gives up lots of TDs in the Red Zone. The Giants play the Panthers, who have a pretty good RZ defense. Denver plays Buffalo, which has been very good in the RZ.

On the other side of the ball, the Broncos have done quite well in the RZ, while the Giants have struggled a little.

Leaning towards Prater for Denver at the moment almost entirely because of the windows in NJ tonight.

Yoda

12-21-08, 04:42 PM

Looks like you have the Titans right where you want them eh?

Time to turn on the juice and see what shakes loose!
:laugh: Yeah, we like to lull the other team to sleep with a false sense of security...

We gave this game away with two fumbles and a stupid penalty. That's the game right there, easily. But I'm not too worked up about it. This is considered a "big" game because of the teams involved, but I don't think it makes a ton of difference which team is the #1 seed, and which is #2. I'd rather they win, sure, but they've played great on the road this year, so a loss here wouldn't bother me too much.

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 04:45 PM

They just took Cassel out. Bummer. I thought Belichick was an unsportsmanship like bastid. What up with that? It's only 47 to nothing...

Yoda

12-21-08, 04:47 PM

Oh, he's still unsportsmanlike ;) They threw wayyyy later than any other team in the league would. Still, another great game out of Cassel.

Meanwhile, Thigpen hasn't done much for something like 2 consecutive possessions. Unacceptable!

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 04:52 PM

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Yoda

12-21-08, 04:55 PM

I'm serious! He's just sitting there at 34 points like a slug.

I'm thinking of cutting him after this game.

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 04:59 PM

There you happy now?

78 yard TD to Fitzy... UGH!

Sedai

12-21-08, 05:05 PM

Thank you TEN DEF!

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 05:06 PM

Yeah! Friggin' KC tried to go for it again on 4th down and this time he got sacked! Ha!

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 05:07 PM

I should have played Ricky "reefer man" Williams today...

Yoda

12-21-08, 05:09 PM

Woo! Fitz finally comes through. All is forgiven. No TD for Calvin (still miffed about that gorgeous 43-yarder getting called back), but the wideouts combine for about 54 points on the day.

And yeah, that was a nice little bonus for you at the end there, Sedai. As a Steeler fan it feels horrendously cheap, but as a fantasy owner I'm sure it's quite lovely.

I notice a couple of Titans were stomping on the Terrible Towel after that play. Big. Mistake. Last player to do something like that, if I remember right, was T.J. Houshmanzadah. We responded by ending Cincinnati's season two years in a row, and they've been door mats since. So good thinking there, Tennesse.

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 05:14 PM

Bad news for Seds, Swedish has Thomas Jones playing for him today. Sorry about that... the Seahawks are terrible.

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 05:19 PM

At last! Tyler Thigpen is paying dividends for my side. Nice little 3 point swing.

Sedai

12-21-08, 05:22 PM

We shall see... I still have Forte to play on Monday, as well...

Yoda

12-21-08, 05:23 PM

Thigpen put up something like 34 points through 3 quarters, but did squat in the 4th. I'll take it, no doubt, but I was pretty sure he was cruising towards 40 there, given that the game stayed close.

Cowher just mentioned the towel thing and made the same warning. Even mentioned the Housh incident. Heh.

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 05:26 PM

Two words. The. Burner.

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 05:29 PM

Anybody watching the Jets and the Sea chickens? Yeah that is Seattle in the background there with all the snow type stuff. Just completely nutzo!

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 05:35 PM

Oakland just recovered an onside kick to keep the ball out of Slaton's hands. I like it. I like it a lot. :yup:

Yoda

12-21-08, 05:42 PM

Meh. Slaton with just 2 yards. He has just one weakness as a player, and it's goal line rushing. Might be a fluke, since the sample size is so small, but he's not been good in those situations.

Big TD for Turner. Pretty much guarantees him at least a solid game, which was by no means a given. Things are tightening a bit, as expected.

Really, all I want for Christmas is to not be relying on Ryan Grant tomorrow night.

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 07:05 PM

And PW inches closer...

Yoda

12-21-08, 07:09 PM

Yup, Portis got into the end zone, too. Slaton has a couple more receptions and has crawled his way up to 8 points. The margin's around 20 now. If that holds, it'll be Grant + 20 against Driver, Toomer, and Boss, which sounds pretty close. I would guess 20 would be enough, if forced to choose, but it's not comfortable.

Then again, Slaton was having just a so-so game against the Titans until the end. Ditto for his massive game against the Jaguars on Monday night. He seems to outlast the defenses, so hopefully he's got a strong 4th quarter in him...

Yoda

12-21-08, 07:22 PM

Slaton with a few more touches, up to 11 points. Texans inside the 10...

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 07:29 PM

I need a flippin' TO! Sheesh man! With the exception of Megatron every one of your guys has scored today!

Thank goodness all of mine have too! :yup:

Yoda

12-21-08, 07:30 PM

Had to settle for a field goal, but a turnover by Oakland, and the Texans are inside the 5!

EDIT: couldn't put it in from the 2 on 2nd down. He's really, really struggled in these situations...

EDIT: they throw on 3rd and fail to score a TD inside the 10 again.

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 07:31 PM

I can't believe I'm actually rooting for the Raiders. Do you have any idea how much I hate the Raiders? I don't use that word very much but I openly hate them.

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 07:34 PM

HOU just took a time out, I'm sure they're going to go for it. Why not? They have so much to play for. Ha! Incomplete!

Yoda

12-21-08, 07:34 PM

Well, looks like you have cause for celebration, then. Looks like the Texans went for it on 4th down and failed to convert. Ouch.

Yoda

12-21-08, 07:36 PM

Broncos within field goal range. Prater's made that last-minute change look pretty good so far with a solid 8 points. He missed a tough 54-yarder, though, that would have been worth a cool 5...

Yoda

12-21-08, 07:39 PM

Prater good from 43 yards! Margin's at 27, with Portis and Turner each with around 10 minutes to play. Just 5:00 for Houston, and Oakland has the ball.

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 07:56 PM

Well as much as I'd like to keep talking trash I think you're in awfully good shape Chris. I'm not throwing in the towel yet but the facts are I have 3 relatively weak players going for me after this.

Your team is very good. My hat's off to you.

Yoda

12-21-08, 08:00 PM

Thanks a lot, PW. :) Slaton and Thigpen totally saved my season with Ben underperforming a bit and Addai being a horrendous disappointment.

Anyway, yeah, it looks pretty good, but I wouldn't call it yet, either. Houston's game just ended; Slaton calls it a day with a decent 12.7 points, but no score and about half the tally that most of the experts had him getting against Oakland.

Margin's at 28 right now, with Grant going tomorrow night. Randle El just returned a punt into Philly territory, though, so we'll see if Portis is done just yet. For what it's worth:

Donald Driver
Average: Approx. 10 pts
Season high: 23 pts

Amani Toomer
Average: 7.7 pts
Season high: 17 pts

Kevin Boss
Average: 7.8 pts
Season high: 16 pts

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 08:09 PM

Yeah, I may still get a little lucky. Jacobs is back for NY so that may actually open up the passing game for them a bit. we'll see. I hope I can make it a little closer anyway.

Yoda

12-21-08, 08:13 PM

Well, if two of the three have an average game, and one a little above average, you'd take a slight lead. Assuming Grant manages at least a handful of points, you'd want some margin of course, which probably involves two of the three having above-average games. Totally plausible, though I'm helped a bit by the fact that two of them are on the same team, and therefore competing for touches.

Prater ended up scoring 12 points for me, which means the odds are good that ditching Carney for him at the last minute was probably the right call. And it was definitely good that I ditched Hartley, who put up just 6.

Interesting wrinkle I hadn't thought of until just now, though: I could have softened the blow of a Toomer or Boss score with Carney, since I'd get a point back if and when either scored.

Too late now, and 12 points is quite good, but it's an interesting thought.

Powdered Water

12-21-08, 09:59 PM

I almost picked up Steve Smith for the Giants when I heard about Boldin, looks like I should have. He already has 3 catches. Toomer/Boss? Zilcho, Nada, Zip.

Yoda

12-21-08, 11:23 PM

Jacobs couldn't punch it in, and Kevin Boss gets the TD.

A few more points and we could be looking at Ryan Grant + 10 against Donald Driver. Good position to be in, but this isn't over yet...

Sedai

12-21-08, 11:50 PM

I have DeAngelo Williams in my other league... Dude has 4 TDs...

Yoda

12-22-08, 12:19 AM

mikeython1

12-22-08, 01:34 AM

Whats the score in the MOFO league and who got who left?

Sedai

12-22-08, 10:34 AM

Well, I was right; Ryan Grant +10 against Donald Driver. Way too close for comfort, so I won't be busting out the celebratory grape juice and Queen song tonight.

Looks like we get another 24 hours of drama, PW. Good luck tomorrow! Guess the MoFo Fantasy Football season doesn't feel like ending just yet.

Saw the last one. Safe to say you won that league? :)

Nah, that was my Legends league; I got spanked in all year, due to LT/Edwards both being busts. I mean, I won this game, but, I failed to place in the league, coming in at 6th overall.

However! I won my Super Bowl in my third and final league! I had already won by the end of the afternoon games yesterday, with Steve Smith still lined up on my roster for the 8 PM game. Steve tacked on another 68 yards during the late game, but I didn't even need it.

So, overall, not a bad season for me, with a third place trophy in the MoFo league (barring Greg Olsen going off and Forte getting pulled last second), and a 1st place in my Public league. After two seasons of FFB, I will end up with a Gold, Silver, and Bronze in my trophy case in my fantasy profile!

Already looking forward to next year!

Powdered Water

12-22-08, 10:44 AM

Nice! Congrats Seds, if you keep this up you may have to start up your own fantasy blog. Get people signed up on a payin' basis. :D

Sedai

12-22-08, 10:52 AM

I feel like I learned a lot this year, made mistakes, and can hopefully tighten up my management next year. Meanwhile, I am kicking myself for playing Foster over Ward this week. Ward had only 15 touches, but racked up a ridiculous 215 yards! No scores, but that certainly would have been better than Foster's lame day against the Rams...

Powdered Water

12-22-08, 10:57 AM

Yeah, I think this league here at MoFo is going to be even more competitive next year. And it was already pretty competitive to begin with.

Good stuff, I hope we can get a few more to join up next year. We can have a 14 team league can't we?

Yoda

12-22-08, 11:39 AM

Sure, no reason we can't add a couple more. I'd guess we'll probably have to! It'll just make it all the more challenging.

Once we get up to 14, we can think about changing the playoffs, potentially. We could have 6 playoff teams and add another round, with the top two seeds getting a bye. Or have a two-week championship game. Lots of possibilities.

We'll have to vote on a lot of this, I'm sure. :) But right off the bat I think we probably all agree that INTs should be -2 instead of -1. I think we probably agree on Sedai's suggestion that we move to a full point per reception. Any early thoughts on the idea of ditching kickers? I'm 50/50 on it, myself. They're such a crapshoot.

Powdered Water

12-22-08, 12:55 PM

If we ditch the kicker does that mean we just have another swing player?

Sedai

12-22-08, 12:58 PM

I say keep the kicker...

Powdered Water

12-22-08, 01:07 PM

The line up does have a pretty nice balance to it right now.

Slug

12-22-08, 01:21 PM

Any early thoughts on the idea of ditching kickers? I'm 50/50 on it, myself. They're such a crapshoot.

No, no!
Don't get rid of kickers!
They decide games.
Whatever points they get should be in our points.
Like they are now.

Yoda

12-22-08, 01:33 PM

Fair enough, just tossing it out there. Picking kickers still feels like rolling dice, but rolling dice can be fun, too. ;)

Anyway, it all comes down to tonight. Grant + 10 against Driver. I feel pretty good about it, but really, it would not surprise me in the least if I lost. The Packers are done for the year, so it's quite plausible that Grant plays badly in the first half, and then comes out. Toss in a Driver TD and I could be done for.

I'm not loving the idea of having my season on the line with Grant here, but a little last-minute excitement is only fitting given the way the season's played out. Good luck, PW! :) You've got a very strong team that I wouldn't be at all ashamed of losing to, and it's been a lot of fun. :)

Powdered Water

12-22-08, 01:56 PM

Thanks for the props, I think you're going to be alright though. We'll see. I'd wish you luck but I don't really think you'll need it.

Overall I'm pretty happy with my first year of managing a team, I averaged right around 100 points a game. Not too shabby I says. I know there are some that say Fantasy football is all about luck but I certainly disagree. I paid close attention all year long and when I made a move I often thought it was sound in reasoning and several of my moves paid big dividends, so I really think it is a good thing to be a rabid fan as well as an owner of a fantasy team. It really helped me.

Guys get hurt, guys shoot themselves for crying out loud. Things happen all around. You have to be flexible and willing to gamble a little as well. Look for favorable matchups, try guys you've never heard of. It works...sometimes.

What a blast! I'm hooked.

Slug

12-22-08, 02:24 PM

Hello everyone.
I copied the following from our league page.
Permit me to comment on a few items.
My comments will be in black.

Yes
Stat Category League Value Yahoo!
Default Value Passing Yards25 yards per point
Passing Touchdowns6
Interceptions-1 Interceptions are huge in a game. How about -2?
Rushing Yards10 yards per point
Rushing Touchdowns6
Receptions.5
right now this seems cool.
Reception Yards
10 yards per point ok
Reception Touchdowns6
Return Touchdowns6
2-Point Conversions2
Fumbles Lost-2
Offensive Fumble Return TD6
Field Goals 0-19 Yards3
Field Goals 20-29 Yards3
Field Goals 30-39 Yards3
Field Goals 40-49 Yards4
Field Goals 50+ Yards5
Point After Attempt Made1
Sack1 I think a sack should be more... 2 points.
Interception2
Fumble Recovery2
Touchdown6
Safety2
Block Kick2
Points Allowed 0 points10
Points Allowed 1-6 points7
Points Allowed 7-13 points4
Points Allowed 14-20 points1
Points Allowed 21-27 points0
Points Allowed 28-34 points-1
Points Allowed 35+ points-4
Can we pick a team at the beginning of the season for total points per game?
Just reverse the scale.
Keep the Team defense too.

Yoda

12-22-08, 10:25 PM

Uh-oh. Driver has 4 catches for 41 yards already. Grant has 6 rushes for 2 yards.

Margin's down to 4.5.

Powdered Water

12-22-08, 10:28 PM

Driver would have caught that one...

Powdered Water

12-22-08, 10:36 PM

Dammit! I was all excited there for a second. I couldn't see the number until they said it was Jennings that caught the TD. Bah!

Yoda

12-22-08, 10:42 PM

The exact same thing happened to me. He kinda rolled over and I could only see the 8. And I was like "is it 0??! Is it 8-0?!?!?" Whew.

Grant, meanwhile, caught a short pass and had a few decent runs. Margin's at 8.

Yoda

12-22-08, 10:47 PM

WOW. Driver just missed a diving 45-yard catch. I was holding my breath on that one.

Powdered Water

12-22-08, 10:47 PM

I still say you're going to be fine...

OHHHH!! NOOO!!!

And it looks like he's hurt. Crap.

Yoda

12-22-08, 10:48 PM

Wow, and now he's coming off the field! What an unbelievable 30 seconds.

Powdered Water

12-22-08, 10:49 PM

Anyway, what I was going to say before I almost dumped my laptop on the floor was; I don't now if you heard them at the beginning of the game but GB's backup RB is out so Grant is going to get plenty of touches tonight.

Wow! He just took a vicious shot too.

Yoda

12-22-08, 10:50 PM

I missed that, actually. Good to know. I was afraid that, since they're not really playing for much, they might not put up much of a fight or risk hurting him for next year. So far, so good, though. They keep giving him the ball, and he's picking it up a bit after a horrendous start...

Powdered Water

12-22-08, 10:54 PM

Driver is back in. Unbelievable. Man that must have hurt.

Powdered Water

12-22-08, 10:57 PM

Well that will probably do it. I'm going to go watch a flick with the wife. I'll leave the computer on so I can see the final score and check back in with you later.

Great game man, it was a lot of fun!

Yoda

12-22-08, 11:14 PM

Yeah, the Grant TD just about does it. Driver would need something like two TDs (or one extra-long one) just to pull even, even if Grant does nothing else.

Thanks for a great game, PW. :) Really had me sweating there at the end! I shall now commence breathing again, finish some work, and sip a little celebratory grape juice.

Can't wait 'til next year!

Sedai

12-23-08, 12:32 AM

Ack!!! Man....It looked like Forte was getting pulled, and then Olsen caught a TD... I was starting to get nervous. Then Peterson came in and I really started to sweat...

Forte came back in, and has now punched one in for the score...

Chris - Our final scores will be EVER so close... You have it, though....

Good games all!

Looking forward to next season!

Yoda

12-23-08, 01:04 AM

Wow. If it'd been Sedai and I playing for the championship, it would have made for the most insane, dramatic, gut-wrenching matchup imaginable. Here's how it would have happened:

Manning and Clark go off on Thursday. McClain has a big game on Saturday. Sedai out to a big, early lead.

Thigpen and Colston somehow match them on Sunday. At the end of the day, I lead by a half-point, 127.50 to 126.96. It's Forte vs. Grant for the championship, basically.

Both start slow, before Grant picks it up, scores a TD, and jumps out to about an 8-9 point lead.

Forte comes back in and scores a late TD. Sedai down by just a few.

Packers go for a possible game-winning FG with about 30 seconds left that probably seals it for me.

Bears block the kick. Game goes into OT, where Forte gets a couple carries and catches a pass. Sedai wins by less than 1 point (0.94, to be precise).

Thank goodness we weren't playing. I think we both would have had heart attacks.

TONGO

12-23-08, 08:26 AM

I barely beat Darcy. I had her by 4 points, but she still had the kicker for GB on monday night. LOL! He didnt score a point! Whew

Great game great season, and a big congratulations to Yoda sliding on in to the #1 position. The ones I thought would win it all this year amongst us were Sedais Replicants, PWs Odd Squad, Swedishes Mongosseses just because he had seemingly flukey rookie magic, myself during my 6 game streak, but twas not to be as I was riddled with injuries...Whoop! excuses excuses.:)

The point was Yodas Angry Men seemed like a solid tough team all along, but never explosive. Poor Yodas weekly angst, and announcments of when some of the biggest points were made on his bench. LOL! Make no mistake it was Yodas persistent analizing, and Sedais input that made the sizzle of this season happen. Remember guys hype is all when its all for fun. Good job! So Im glad Yoda won it all as he deserved it the most.

Now Im gonna see if I can wiggle into your fantasy baseball league...

Sedai

12-23-08, 10:34 AM

@ Yoda

For sure. I was already wired watching the (great) football game last night, although i missed the first half, due to having a date with Jimmy Stewart and Donna Reed...

Anyway - I was actually running a little mini-bowl for you and I as I watched, wondering what would have happened if we had faced off. I don't think it gets much closer than our final scores...

Our league has posted the winners, but trophies won't go out until after week 17, because some leagues are still active this week...

@ TONGO - You realize Crosby got 5 points last night and you lost, yes? Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings...

Yoda

12-23-08, 11:08 AM

The point was Yodas Angry Men seemed like a solid tough team all along, but never explosive. Poor Yodas weekly angst, and announcments of when some of the biggest points were made on his bench. LOL! Make no mistake it was Yodas persistent analizing, and Sedais input that made the sizzle of this season happen. Remember guys hype is all when its all for fun. Good job! So Im glad Yoda won it all as he deserved it the most.
Pfft; definitely wouldn't say I'm particularly deserving (the other playoff teams all drafted better than I did), but you're right about my team not blowing anyone away. I was stunned by how often during the season I'd win without anyone have a huge game. I just had a ton of guys who put up 10-15 points most weeks.

For sure. I was already wired watching the (great) football game last night, although i missed the first half, due to having a date with Jimmy Stewart and Donna Reed...
Nice! :) I actually haven't seen that in a couple years. Not counting the fragments you catch walking by just about any TV this time of year.

Anyway, the 11 Angry Men are considerably lessly angry right now. But I'm sure they'll be downright furious again in time to defend their title next year.