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Powdered Water
11-27-08, 02:34 PM
After the success and all the fun that several MoFo's are having this fantasy Football season I was hoping perhaps we could do the same for the upcoming Baseball season. I see Yoda tried to get one of these up and running about 4 years ago and didn't seem to get too many takers, so in hopes that we have more Baseball fans this time around, what do ya say?

Take it from me a first time fantasy Football team owner its extremely simple to do and it makes watching the games so much more enjoyable. Plus the added bonus of already having a community forum where you talk about your team or just bash others is just totally choice. I know there are some pretty hard core Baseball fans here so here's your chance for MoFo domination.

Spring training is literally right around the corner so please chime in here and we'll see how this shakes out. I'm hoping Yoda will be interested once again so we can just take advantage of his movie forums account that he already has established. I'm not sure how many people we need to have our own league but for now I want to test the water and see if anyone is interested.

mark f
11-27-08, 02:44 PM
I've never been a fantasy owner of any kind, but if it's as easy as you say, I'd give it a shot.

Powdered Water
11-27-08, 03:00 PM
It is. When we had our fantasy draft here for the MoFo league the computer picked my whole team. All I did was sign in the next day and started tweaking my lineup. I'm sure the Baseball roster is no different.

If you watch a lot of Baseball then you will most certainly have an advantage. You can easily switch players around to get good match ups. Its also addicting, with none of the side effects of a bad drug trip.

Slug
11-27-08, 03:21 PM
I would like to play.

http://s30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/bicepless/th_goober02.jpg

Powdered Water
12-04-08, 09:19 PM
Bumpity bump bump.

Yoda
12-04-08, 09:47 PM
A fine idea, and you're right, the football league working out pretty well should help get this off the ground a bit this time around.

Personally, I'm not a big fan of rotisserie leagues; I prefer head-to-head. Assuming that's what everyone else wants, I'd probably play -- I already play in a keeper league, but I'm not nuts about the way it's run and am seriously considering not coming back next year.

Anyway, I'd be interested to see who else might want to give it a go. I don't think we'd have too much trouble finding 12.

Powdered Water
12-04-08, 09:52 PM
Yeah, I was hoping you would be interested. I know very little about how these things work so if you think head to head is the way to go then that's fine by me.

We can sort out particulars later. Like perhaps telling me what head to head is... :p

Swedish Chef
02-27-09, 10:01 AM
Is this happening?

Sedai
02-27-09, 10:04 AM
Count me in! :)

Yoda
02-27-09, 10:08 AM
I'll go see about setting something up today. :) I presume everyone's cool with at least 12 teams, both AL & NL, head-to-head, etc?

Sedai
02-27-09, 11:48 AM
Sure. :)

Yoda
02-27-09, 12:10 PM
Okay, got it all set up:

MoFo Fantasy Baseball 2009 (http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/league/movieforums)

Just post here if you want in. :) I know Swedish, PW, Mark, Slug, and Sedai already do, so I'll send you all PMs now with the league password, and off we go.

I've set the league draft for Saturday, March 14th, but we can push it back a week if need be. Either way we'll have at least a couple of weeks to get ready, get everyone signed up, and iron out any objections to the rules/stat categories that've been chosen. Right now the categories are:

Hitters:

R, HR, RBI, SB, BB, K, AVG, OBP, SLG
Pitchers:

IP, W, L, SV, BB, K, HLD, ERA, WHIP
That's nine for each. Lemme know if anyone has any objections to using these. A few possible changes would be to add errors for hitters, and something like appearances for pitchers, though I assume we'll want to keep the number of categories even either way.

mikeython1
02-27-09, 02:23 PM
I am in! Head to head is the way to go. I would suggest cutting down a couple of the catagories though. Probaly I would cut from hitters BB,K,SLG and Pitchers HLD,BB,IP. In the league I was in last year we had less catagories and it took a lot of dedication. If there are going to be people new to fantasy we should definitly cut some of the catagories.

Yoda
02-27-09, 02:25 PM
I'm certainly open to it, though I'd like to hear as many opinions as possible. I'm a little partial to holds, if only because without them relievers get almost no valuable unless they save games, but it partially depends on how many teams we end up with.

I think slugging percentage is pretty necessary, though; without it we're only measuring home runs, and not offering extra credit for doubles or triples above simple singles. Unless I'm missing something (very possible).

Swedish Chef
02-27-09, 02:48 PM
I like the stats you went with except, yeah, you don't really need to count walks of any kind as long as you've got WHIP for pitchers and OBP for hitters. Either way, though.

And as long as nobody has any objections, would it be possible to move the draft to the 21st? I'm going to a show in Boston on the 14th and fantasy sports are kind of lame if you don't get to draft your own team. Go Mongooses!

Yoda
02-27-09, 02:52 PM
I'm cool with moving it to the 21st, which is what I had it at initially, actually.

And yeah, I toyed with the idea of removing BB, but wasn't sure. Some overlap is inevitable with things like OBP and AVG, but OBP makes too much sense, and AVG is a fantasy staple whether it should be or not, so I tilted slightly towards more categories.

Anyway, more thoughts always appreciated on all these issues; IE: removing some categories, moving to the 21st, etc.

mikeython1
02-27-09, 02:58 PM
Whatever everyone wants to do is fine with me. Cutting categories was only a suggestion. I just tought for fantasy baseball newcomers it would be a little easier.

Sedai
02-27-09, 03:04 PM
I like the stats you went with except, yeah, you don't really need to count walks of any kind as long as you've got WHIP for pitchers and OBP for hitters. Either way, though.

And as long as nobody has any objections, would it be possible to move the draft to the 21st? I'm going to a show in Boston on the 14th and fantasy sports are kind of lame if you don't get to draft your own team. Go Mongooses!

Boston? So...what time are we grabbing a beer?

Swedish Chef
02-27-09, 03:11 PM
Hey, if you wanna wait outside the Orpheum theater for a little while and then show us where we can get the nearest, cheapest, strongest microbrew possible... well then I am down like a circus clown, sir

Powdered Water
02-27-09, 09:39 PM
Hey sweet! I am glad a few more folks have taken an interest. I know very little about how all this works so whatever you ultimately decide Chris is cool with me or the group conscience or whatever.

I can't wait. So overall do I get to make moves and such like I did during the Football league? Is the layout similar? I'll have to do a little research.

Yoda
02-27-09, 09:45 PM
Yeah, it's Yahoo again, so it actually looks pretty similar. We've got a waiver wire, trading, etc. A lot of the concepts are the same, though the scoring is a little different. I could be mistaken, but I think we go head-to-head in different statistical categories, rather than assign those statistics points.

So, in other words, if you're losing by, say, one strikeout, you can't win that category by getting a save or a win, whereas if you're down by a point in football you can get that point any number of ways.

Powdered Water
02-27-09, 09:54 PM
Is there some kind of stattracker? When you say head to head. Does that mean we play each other for a day? A week or what?

Yoda
02-27-09, 10:00 PM
I think we play each other for a week. And yeah, I believe there's a StatTracker.

Powdered Water
02-27-09, 10:08 PM
Cool beans.

Yoda
03-02-09, 01:20 PM
Nice; we've got six owners right off the bat, and I think we're still waiting for Slug to create a team. Who else wants in? Come now, don't be shy.

I'll probably ask my friend Adam again, provided he promises he can update his lineup regularly this time 'round and all that.

Powdered Water
03-06-09, 12:52 AM
I sent Rob, AKA team TONGO a pm awhile back too. He had expressed interest but I don't think he's been on lately. If he pops in at some point we'll probably have 8.

Yoda
03-06-09, 12:54 PM
Yeah, I was thinking of asking TONGO specifically, too, so thanks for doing that. :) I've got a few other ideas to try to round this out. Should get slightly easier as we near the season a bit.

Powdered Water
03-07-09, 01:44 AM
I tried to lean on Holden but he wasn't having any... Oh well. He's a huge Baseball fan too, I bet he'd have a blast. It would definitely cut into his movie time though. Can't have that.

EDIT: I'm somewhat happy to see that A-Roid may be out for several months, as much as I can't stand the guy, I would be hard pressed not to draft him if I happened to have the first or second pick... so, uh, thanks?

TONGO
03-12-09, 12:13 AM
Count me in! Thanks for the PM PW.

mark f
03-12-09, 12:46 AM
What day is the draft? I haven't even gone back to the site since I "created" my team. Am I already way behind now?

Yoda
03-12-09, 10:05 AM
It's the 21st, though we can push it back a bit more if we have to. We still need a few more owners, I think. I sent TONGO the information, though Slug said he'd rather stick to football. Mikey has a friend who's interested, too, which would be 8. I think we need at least 10, ideally 12.

Sedai
03-12-09, 10:18 AM
I think I may have to auto-draft, but I definitely still in!

mikeython1
03-12-09, 03:44 PM
Yoda, I erased the email with the link and password for my friend. Can you please send it to me again. :)

TONGO
03-14-09, 11:52 AM
Finally Im registered! Looking forward to the weekly angst, but wait a minute with baseball that would be daily angst wouldnt it? With all the games they play and all. What I do know for sure is whoever knows what the hell theyre doing with the fantasy baseball thing usually doesnt win. Let the chaos begin! LOL! Thanks for invite guys.

mikeython1
03-14-09, 03:04 PM
I sent my friend the link today Yoda. He should be signing up later on today. :)

mikeython1
03-15-09, 01:49 AM
I can get one more team if you want Yoda?

mikeython1
03-20-09, 02:18 PM
We still need a couple of more teams. Is anyone intrested? If you are contact Yoda. Draft is next saturday March 28th. :cool:

Sedai
03-20-09, 02:25 PM
TONGO is BACK!

:D

mikeython1
03-20-09, 02:33 PM
Yoda changed it to the 28th.

Yoda
03-20-09, 03:14 PM
Aye, I moved the draft back a week, since we still need at least one more team (ideally three more). Figured everyone would be cool with that, anyway. :) Shame we don't have as many diehard baseball fans as we do football fans, but we should still have a lot of fun. :)

mikeython1
03-20-09, 03:30 PM
I just drafted in my other league that is for money. There is 16 teams! It made drafting really hard! Luckily I received the 3rd pick. I did not even know who anyone was after the 13th round.

Yoda
03-24-09, 07:04 PM
Looks like we need one more, guys, and we'd have to draft this weekend. Everyone still in? A few MoFos bowed out (no hard feelings towards them, naturally), and we're sitting at 9, and Swedish hasn't been online in awhile, so what say you all? Do we still go ahead?

There are compromises, like drafting a little late and starting the schedule a couple weeks into the season, if necessary. I'm still in if everyone wants to do it and most of us can make it this weekend and everything.

mikeython1
03-24-09, 07:08 PM
I would still stay in but I have to check with my friends. I told them 10 teams would be in it. I will get back to you later Yoda. :)

Sedai
03-24-09, 08:54 PM
Looking forward to it!

Powdered Water
03-25-09, 01:25 AM
I'm up for whatever. I bet if Swedish doesn't check in he'll just auto draft and go from there. I know he's got his new gig. So maybe he just doesn't have the time to schmooze with us like he used to.

mark f
03-25-09, 02:02 AM
I'm in, although I have no clue what "I'm in" for!

mikeython1
03-26-09, 03:07 PM
My friends said they are still in. If we need one more team I can probaly get one.

Yoda
03-26-09, 03:08 PM
Go for it. :)

Looking at this Saturday at about 2:00 PM ET, everyone. :) If we absolutely need a change, let me know, though ranking various players for autodrafting should help a lot. And besides, we only had half the owners for the football draft, and it was still pretty flippin' fun.

mikeython1
03-26-09, 04:57 PM
Play Ball!!!! Alright there are ten teams now.

mark f
03-26-09, 05:08 PM
I just tried to access the league, and although yahoo recognizes me, it says the League doesn't exist based on the ID number I typed in. Did something change?

Yoda
03-26-09, 05:11 PM
Nope. But I don't think you're supposed to try to enter the league ID like you did when you joined. Try the direct link:

http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/league/movieforums

mark f
03-26-09, 05:12 PM
I got this message from that link:

You are not allowed to view this page because you are not in this league. (Error #152)

Yoda
03-26-09, 05:15 PM
Ugh. None of this stuff makes a lick of sense.

I'll see if I can figure out what's wrong a bit later, I suppose, but sans actually seeing what's happening on that end, I'm not sure how to go about this.

mark f
03-26-09, 05:16 PM
I haven't gone back there since the first day. My team still exists, doesn't it?

Yoda
03-26-09, 05:21 PM
Yeah; Dodgers. Under the username "bejmaf".

mark f
03-26-09, 05:32 PM
I got in.

Yoda
03-26-09, 05:34 PM
Woot. :) Did it just suddenly work, or was there some kinda quirk?

mikeython1
03-26-09, 05:34 PM
Mark I think you need to sign in with yahoo first to view the page. The sign in spot is on the top of the page.

mark f
03-26-09, 05:36 PM
I got the same message, but I was able to navigate away from that page and get into the league in two clicks. I hope it works next time.

Powdered Water
03-28-09, 01:45 PM
Were you able to get your log in sorted out Mark? I hope so. Are you going to try and do the live draft with us? You don't have to if it seems to daunting. It will auto draft for you and then you'll have a team you can start tweaking. I imagine you may have a few Dodger players you may have that one eye of yours on.

mark f
03-28-09, 01:49 PM
Yes, it works fine now. I've got my picks all ordered up and ready to go. I just went through a live mock draft. I'm not sure about the one coming up though. Either my wife or I have to pick up my daughter at one event and take her to another sometime during that draft, so we'll see.

Powdered Water
03-28-09, 02:06 PM
Cool beans. If you already have your pre draft lineup set then you you don't actually have to be there. The computer will select whichever player is available at the time for you. The only nice thing about being there live I guess is in case you get a wild hair or something and decide to take someone else you know? OK buddy, maybe I'll see you there.

Sedai
03-28-09, 02:42 PM
I am in the draft. I am also dealing with some comp issues, and can't seem to be able to scroll to the chat in the draft.

I am working on the issues, but I might be silent drafter today...

Powdered Water
03-28-09, 02:52 PM
Bummer Seds. Well, I guess we can always just do our smack talk in here. :p

Sedai
03-28-09, 02:56 PM
I know virtually nothing about 70% of the teams... Hope I luck out with some banner year players ;)

Powdered Water
03-28-09, 02:59 PM
Yeah, me too. The little Yahoo player ranker thing should come in pretty handy. Hanley Ramirez seems pretty popular.

Sedai
03-28-09, 02:59 PM
I'm ninth...deciding who to snag in that range... Where is Yoda?

Yoda
03-28-09, 04:19 PM
Yeah, I kinda suck. I'm sorry guys; really long night playing poker, and a headache this morning, and I didn't realize it'd started until it was too late. I did fiddle with the draft rankings the other day and rather like my team, at least so far.

Wish I'd been able to be there, though. Drafting is often as fun as anything else in the season, so I'm kinda bummed that I missed it.

Hope we can do a lot of trading this year. :)

mikeython1
03-28-09, 04:21 PM
Your team is built for speed Yoda. I wanted Jimmy Rollins so bad. This is going to be a lot of fun. My friends are excited. I probaly have the best team! :D

Powdered Water
03-28-09, 04:22 PM
I don't know several of the players I drafted. I'm just gonna roll them out there and kind of go from there.

Yoda
03-28-09, 04:26 PM
Oh yeah...my steals are looking absurd. Might have to unload a little of that for some pitching or something.

Man, looking over the draft results, actually being there could have been a big advantage, because people got some crazy steals (how many people were drafint live, by the way?). 'Course, with 10 teams instead of 12 all the teams are going to look pretty stacked.

mikeython1
03-28-09, 04:33 PM
I was watching ESPN and they said most leagues are 10. If you want to unload some of that speed I could use it. I will take a look and see if a trade is possible.

Yoda
03-28-09, 04:41 PM
I'll have a look at your roster, too. I'll probably want to hold off just a tad until I have a slightly better idea of what I have, but yeah, I wouldn't mind us all going a little trade-crazy. We were all hyper-careful in football, which was still fun, but I think with the depth in baseball, we should be able to let loose a bit.

Sedai
03-30-09, 12:04 PM
I am pretty clueless about Fantasy Baseball, as I am sure you can tell by my draft.

Why did A-Rod plummet so much? A ranking list I had had him ranked fifth overall, and yet he went in the fourth round.

Yoda
03-30-09, 12:21 PM
He's going to miss a month or two, I believe.

Still a good pick in the 4th, though, IMO.

mikeython1
03-31-09, 12:35 PM
Nice pick up Yoda.;) I was in line for Kevin Gregg. :mad:

Sedai
03-31-09, 12:51 PM
I am pretty unsure how all this works. How does pitching work? They don't play much. What should my bench look like? I really have absolutely no clue about FBB.

Yoda
03-31-09, 01:08 PM
Pitching works like hitting in that the pitchers amass stats in different categories.

Really, the one big change from fantasy baseball to fantasy football (in this instance, at least) is that stats don't get converted into points. Which means if you're weak on home runs, you can't make up the difference in pitcher strikeouts. Each category is a game unto itself; most home runs is a win, fewer strikeouts a loss, etc. In football if your kicker has a bad day, your QB might pick up the slack, but here you're forced to construct a balanced team.

Pitching is a little different in hitting in that you need a minimum number of innings each week...but this is just so that you can't have a closer pitch a scoreless 9th, then bench everyone so you automatically win the ERA and WHIP categories with 0.00. That kinda thing.

mikeython1
03-31-09, 01:19 PM
Sedai your team looks pretty solid. I would probably drop someone(batting) and pick up another pitcher. Probably middle relief or another closer. You set a lineup day to day usually in regards to what you need that week(avg,wins,saves,etc). For instance if you already are winning the category pitching wins by 2 and the other team only has one starting pitcher left for the week, you would probably put reliever's in your p spots(if needed) to try and keep your era and whip down(or get saves/holds). There are many ways to manipulate your lineup day to day. You should be able to figure it out after the first week. You should pay attention to everyone's match ups the first week to see the pros/cons of decisions they have made.

Yoda
04-01-09, 12:32 PM
Yeah, the category thing really changes things, and forces you to think about your entire roster, since pitchers can't really pick up the slack for hitters, and vice-versa. Of course, if you dominate hitting you'll win about half the categories, but you really can't kill someone in a given week without both.

Anyway, lots of roster moves so far. Glad to see everyone getting into it right off the bat. :) And yeah, really glad I could pick up Gregg. My auto-drafted team mirrored my own philosophy of skimping on saves (for the most part) and hoping I nab a waiver wire gem at some point, and I think Gregg could be it. We'll see.

Funnily enough, Sedai and I are squaring off in the first week, just like we did in MoFo Fantasy Football. I think we might have been the first two to signup each time, though, so that might 'splain it.

Getting excited for opening day! My team's practically emanating radiation.

Powdered Water
04-02-09, 12:00 AM
This should be a blast. I can't wait to get a few weeks into it so I can really start getting a bead on what I need to do each day or week. I'm ridiculously obsessive about figuring stuff out so I doubt it will take long to do. I'm slowly learning about some of the guys on my team too, which is kind of fun. I know a few guys in Baseball but its pretty tough to really get a handle on all of them.

How many of you have used the stat tracker for Baseball before? Is it worth it? I'm sure I'll end up getting it anyway. Does it pretty much run 24/7 or what? I mean Baseball is pretty much on all the time so I guess it would have to almost.

Oh, and I just got a fresh shipment of 'Roids' in. So I got that goin' for me... which is nice.

mikeython1
04-02-09, 12:03 PM
The Stat-Tracker is a must in Fantasy Baseball. I think it would be really hard without it. Let me get some of those roids PW. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sport017.gif

Yoda
04-02-09, 12:08 PM
I haven't used the baseball one but I'm guessing it's about as fun/helpful/whatever as the football one, particularly considering you can use it almost every day. Of course, the games are spread out a bit more, but yeah, I'll almost certainly spring for it.

Looks like it'll be free until April 19th, anyway, to entice people into buying, so you should be able to get a look at it first.

mikeython1
04-03-09, 02:40 PM
Ichiro just went on the 15 day DL. To bad for Tongo. :yup:

Yoda
04-03-09, 03:12 PM
Guess I'll have to cancel my trade offer, then. Whew, that was close...

Yoda
04-04-09, 06:24 PM
First game's tomorrow night! Don't forget to double-check your lineups, MoFos.

I admit, a month ago I wasn't that jazzed for the season, or the league, or anything baseball-related, but it gets me every year, and 2009 is no exception. I'm probably not as into it as I have been in some past years, but I'm a lot more excited than I was.

It probably helps that I'm going to the Pirates home opener (day off work...woohoo), and that I couldn't be much happier with my team.

Play ball.

Powdered Water
04-04-09, 06:34 PM
So do you know much about how our "win and losses" are tallied? Is it like Mikey was saying and its strictly a heads up versus every category? And then what? At the end of the week however many categories you win is your total wins and however many you lose is your losses and so on?

Does that make sense?

Yoda
04-04-09, 06:57 PM
It's definitely heads-up; beyond that, I'm not positive, but I think your interpretation is correct.

In the last league I was in each category was a win or a loss (or a tie) at the end of the week, and the scoreboard on the league site would seem to imply the same thing. So I think that's probably the way it is. Which means we'll be playing a lot more "games" than a regular baseball season, but I think that's normal.

Sedai
04-06-09, 09:53 AM
Why does my Util slot say PPD next to it? Should I have two Util dudes?

Sedai
04-06-09, 10:03 AM
I am not sure how all this works... I am starting both Youkalis and Texiera today... which looks like a mistake, yeah? If Youk plays first base and not third, I end up with no third baseman? I can't sit Texiera... But I like Youk! Should I just put a full time 3rd player in instead of Youk?

Signed,

Captain No Clue

Yoda
04-06-09, 11:03 AM
Some players have multi-position eligibility, and in some cases this makes them a lot more valuable. Under Youk's name you should see "1B, 3B" indicating that he can play at either position.

I believe your utility slot says PPD because that player's game has been Postponed. Definitely want to swap him out before the deadline.

Yoda
04-06-09, 11:04 AM
By the by, possibly a nice pick up with Scherzer. I didn't really want to drop him, but just had too many players I wanted to pick up, and needed the saves that I think Motte should end up getting me.

The waiver wire should be crazy insane this year, given the daily lineups and the fact that we have 10 teams in a mixed league.

Sedai
04-06-09, 11:09 AM
Yeah - I changed my pitching around a bit. I also grabbed Putz, as someone said I needed more relief, and I saw some good press on him.

Alas, I need to make a couple of emergency moves, as I have a couple of slots not playing today, and my back-ups are off, too. :(

So, now I need another outfielder, but I am unsure who to drop....

OK, so Youk will still get his numbers in the third base slot on my roster, even though he plays first today?

I wouldn't mind a little help/direction getting my roster going today, even though we are playing this first game. ;)

Gah - I don't see any other Util players available... is that right?

Yoda
04-06-09, 11:14 AM
You can play Swisher at the OF slot; he's eligible at 1B and OF. Then you can play Encarnacion at the UT spot and avoid having to make any moves. EDIT: nevermind, I didn't realize you'd already dropped Swisher.

Re: Youk. I'll have to make sure that Yahoo doesn't have some crazy rules, but yeah, if a player is eligible at a position, they can play that position on your team, and it doesn't matter what position they end up playing at in real life. I'm pretty sure eligibility each year is determined by the number of games played at each position from the previous year, too, so I don't think it'll change all year long.

Sedai
04-06-09, 11:34 AM
Bah - Sox just got rained out, so that's two more slots that went belly up for me. Looks like today is a wash.

AND - As I typed this, Santana went on the DL, so there goes my number 2 starter...

My back-up 3rd base just went PPD, as well... Terrible.

I can;t make any moves, as it seems the changes I made today don't go through until tomorrow. For instance, i still have Swisher, whom I will play, even though he is clearly one of the worst players in the game, and I picked him up at the end of the draft. Alas, none of the other changes that would have helped me went through. Bummer.

:bawling:

Yoda
04-06-09, 11:58 AM
Yeah, if you get too close to certain start times the lineup locks, though I'm surprised that it would have done so already, at 11 AM. I take it it's not something obvious, like selecting the wrong date? I do that sometimes.

Anyway, yeah, some of the waiver moves take awhile. I think it's the same as football, though; anyone who's cleared waivers (or went undrafted), you can pick up and play immediately.

The Boston thing definitely sucks for you, though, but fantasy baseball is nice in that you accumuluate stuff all week, so it's harder for things like that to sink you. 'Course, they pretty much never postpone a football game, but still.

Sedai
04-06-09, 12:10 PM
Well, these Waiver dudes were available, but they won't show up in today's line-up at all. They are there for tomorrow. I made the moves much earlier today, too, as you can see, yet Swisher is still eligible to play for me today; I dumped him first thing this morning.

Today is just a big 'ol loss, for sure. More than half my pitchers are out, and 7 out of 14 position guys are out. I just don;t have even close to enough players to fill a roster, and I can't make any moves to replace even one of the players, because Free Agents just aren't appearing on my roster when I make the moves.

So, my season officially starts tomorrow, and I will of course not be counting this game in the overall Yoda/Sedai record, as my season doesn;t really start today if my players season doesn;t really start until tomorrow, yeas? I mean, the Red Son season does not actually start today, so this game can't count, right? No games should count unless the teams have officially started the season, IMO.

Sedai
04-06-09, 01:01 PM
So, I am having some confusion as to how things work. The Braves/Phillies opener was April 5, which was last night. I have Derek Lowe as a pitcher, and he appears to be in my lineup.

I just read this:

"Lowe pitched eight superb innings, three Braves homered off Brett Myers (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6864/;_ylt=Alz8qnhZ0TO40Yi2bcjn75i4u7YF), and Atlanta beat the defending champs 4-1 in the major league opener Sunday night."

Why doesn't Lowe have any sort of score yet? Yahoo clearly and directly states:

"Important: Head-to-Head leagues must draft by March 29th to start scoring in fantasy Week 1, which runs March 30th - April 12th."

So, Fantasy has clearly started, and yet my players aren't scoring.

So - Half my players went on the DL or got postponed, and the ones that did play already aren't posting any stats.

I take it our league, because it is so small, won't start scoring for a while or something?

mikeython1
04-06-09, 01:07 PM
Last night did not count. I don't know why, I thought the same as you. Yeah Lowe had a great game, I watched it. :) It officially starts keeping score today.

Yoda
04-06-09, 01:09 PM
:laugh: Don't concede just yet.

Anyway, the games are the categories themselves, spread out over the week, so you can't win or lose a given day by itself. Unless I'm mistaken (possible...there are more variants in fantasy baseball than fantasy football). The good news is that the first series is longer than the others; they're usually about a week, but this one is closer to two, probably to account for the irregularities in the schedule we always see at first.

The rainouts are definitely a bummer and are probably pissing a lot of fantasy owners off.

Yoda
04-06-09, 01:11 PM
I dunno, I think last night counted; I went on the site afterwards and saw the numbers up there, at least. Maybe that doesn't mean anything.

I'll have to look around a bit more. I'll let you guys know if I find anything enlightening. Shouldn't take long for us to get this all sorted out. ;)

Sedai
04-06-09, 01:20 PM
I don't understand. Isn't our game over today? Do I play you all week or something?

This is making me feel stupid, IQ of 150 or not...

Yoda
04-06-09, 01:29 PM
With the usual caveat that I could possibly be wrong, this is how it works...

Two teams play for a duration of time (usually a week...longer for the first series). During this time they amass various stats; hitters get home runs, stolen bases, RBI...pitchers get Ks, wins, saves, etc. At the end of the period, each category you have better numbers at is a "win" and each one you have worse numbers at is a "loss." So, if I have more home runs, but fewer RBIs and pitcher Ks, you win the series 2-1.

In other words, if by some crazy fluke ALL your games get rained out, you don't lose the "day." You just don't put up any numbers that day that count towards the series' total. Neither you or I have amassed any wins or losses yet, and we won't until the series ends (April 12th).

mikeython1
04-06-09, 01:35 PM
I am in another league in yahoo same style(Head to Head) and all the scores reset today. The score was up last night and then gone this morning. Im pretty sure last night did not count.

Yoda
04-06-09, 01:38 PM
That'd be kinda weird, though, wouldn't it? I can't think of a single reason they'd do that. The scoring period is listed as March 30th to April 12th, so it's definitely within that, and the period is longer than normal to accomodate the early-season schedule oddities, too.

I searched their help section and perused the message boards a bit to see if I could find an answer, but didn't see anything about it. I'd expect there to be a number of people asking about this if the big opening game of the season didn't count for some reason.

Not saying you're wrong, but I can't fathom why they would do that.

mikeython1
04-06-09, 02:09 PM
:laugh: I love the new team name Sedai.

Yoda
04-06-09, 02:28 PM
Aye. It'll make it all the more embarrassing when I lose.

Sedai
04-06-09, 03:14 PM
Ok - It seems like Lowe's points went to our totals, but his player stats are blank. Is it the same for you guys on your Yahoo interface?

Yoda
04-06-09, 03:23 PM
His player stats are there for me. I guess the W-L totals don't get thrown up there until the next day's games start? Something like that. It'd make sense, given that there can be scoring changes.

Anyway, looks like they've got a running W-L total, though that should just be a "if the series ended now" tally. Looks like yesterday's counting after all, though, so it's all making a lot more sense. :)

Yoda
04-06-09, 03:45 PM
Gah; Cliff Lee's getting knocked around. Couple that with Lowe's stellar start last night and I'm digging a bit of a hole for my pitching staff right out of the gate.

Sedai
04-06-09, 04:05 PM
How does the DL work in our league? I see two positions set for DL in the scoring section for our league. Can I put dudes on the DL or something? I already have a couple hurt guys.

mikeython1
04-06-09, 04:26 PM
Yeah you can put them on the DL and pick up more guys.

Powdered Water
04-06-09, 10:43 PM
Ok - It seems like Lowe's points went to our totals, but his player stats are blank. Is it the same for you guys on your Yahoo interface?


I think what happens is that after he pitches you can then switch him out with another pitcher if you want. I played Utley last night and now today his stats are empty until his game starts. So I can either move him to the bench or keep him and see what he does tonight. So, maybe its the same for pitchers as well. Because if I understand this correctly you're accumulating numbers for a whole week yeah? So if you have a few pitchers you want to try and plug in off of your bench or the waiver wire then you should be anble to after their scheduled start.

Maybe? We'll get this figured out. I have a feeling you're a little like me and are going to pound away at this with a big friggin' hammer until we do. ;)

Powdered Water
04-06-09, 11:00 PM
Oh and I don't know if you've opened up the stattracker yet but at the top of it there is the breakdown of how you're matching up and who's winning what. There is 20 categories total so if you were to have better numbers than your opponent on a given week you could potentially score 20 points or runs.

Dig it. That's what I want to do.

Sedai
04-07-09, 10:14 AM
So, should I not worry about the fact that I have a couple of dead slots again today, this time my SS and 3B?

I am also curious about pitching. It says I have reached the minimum requirement for the series. Do I still run a full rack of pitchers, or do I bench some starters to keep ERA down?

Captain No Strategy

Yoda
04-07-09, 10:21 AM
Well, it's good to avoid, but I had a couple yesterday myself. Long-term, I might have to move a few things around to make sure I have backups for just about every position, but seeing as how it's hardly a death sentence, I just decide whether or not the downside to having an empty slot on a given day is worse than the downside of having to drop someone to find a replacement.

And, of course, with stats like AVG, OBP, ERA, WHIP, etc, there can be a benefit to not playing someone, anyway, unlike football where the player has almost no chance of hurting you and is always going to be better than nothing.

Sedai
04-07-09, 12:21 PM
Ha. I just made several moves to shore up slots, but none of the players added. OK, so it's official - You can't add players to your roster and use them the same day. They don't become eligible until the next day.

So far, almost all the moves I have made have been for nothing. I need a 3rd base sub today, not tomorrow!

mikeython1
04-07-09, 12:23 PM
Some times you have to to leave a spot open or check the schedule 2 days ahead of time and pick up replacements then.

Sedai
04-07-09, 12:27 PM
Yeah - It's going to be tough for me to keep up with all this. The every day thing is a bit of a pain.

So far:

Fantasy Baseball - 0
Fantasy Football - 1000

I have yet to have even a smidgen of fun with FBB, but then again, I have yet to watch a game this season! That will change soon.

Ok, so maybe I have had some fun. ;)

I need a week or so to get my head around the scoring etc.

Sedai
04-07-09, 06:42 PM
I am at home in front of the Sox game! :)

Game on!

Yoda
04-07-09, 07:25 PM
Yeah, it gets more fun, I promise. ;)

That said, the next-day player thing seems kinda weird, but I think you're right. I don't think that's the case in all leagues, just ours (or Yahoo leagues...not sure). Kinda frustrating. The common theme with all the quirks seems to be the emphasis on thinking ahead and long-term roster planning, I suppose.

Yoda
04-08-09, 11:53 AM
Aye. It'll make it all the more embarrassing when I lose.
This is looking annoyingly prescient. :laugh: I'm down 12-2 at the moment.

Sedai's pitching staff has completely gone off; they're 3-0 with a 0.39 ETA, a 0.65 WHIP, and 24 Ks in 23 innings. Yowza. Meanwhile, both Verlander and Lee got shelled.

I've got no hope of catching him in most of those categories (though with Billingsly and Lester going tonight, I can still win IP and Ks, perhaps). My best hope is to salvage those and catch a few breaks on offense. Right now we're tied in HR, SB, BB (hitters), Holds, and Errors.

Nice start, Seds. :up: Hopefully I'll be able to drag myself back up to respectability tonight.

Sexy Celebrity
04-08-09, 02:55 PM
How in the world do you play baseball on an online message board? :skeptical:

Yoda
04-08-09, 02:58 PM
Er, you don't. :) You play it on some other site that keeps track of players and statistics.

Sexy Celebrity
04-08-09, 03:09 PM
So, is it a real video game, with graphics and such?

Did you design a MoFo baseball uniform?

Yoda
04-08-09, 03:18 PM
I can't tell if you're being facetious or not.

Fantasy baseball is a game wherein a group of people get together and take turns choosing real-life players to make up their teams. Then, what those players do in real life determines who has the best team in the group. When we "play" each other, it really just means that our respective players' statistics over a given time period are compared (in one of many ways) to determine which "team" performed better.

Sexy Celebrity
04-08-09, 03:32 PM
I'm not being facetious. What do you mean "what those players do in real life determines who has the best team" ?

So, if Brad Pitt was on my team -- an A-list actor, married to Angelina Jolie, adopts orphans in other countries, gives to charities, gives people lots of free sexual fantasies -- is he better and is my team gonna fare better than if I had say... oh... I can't think of anyone specific right now for some reason. Let's say Dodie, a pretend character who works at the drug store down the street, but spent 20 years in jail for murdering her husband and feeding him to a pig?

Is it really a game where you win simply by who you are as a person and how successful you are? Wow.

Yoda
04-08-09, 03:38 PM
I'm not being facetious. What do you mean "what those players do in real life determines who has the best team" ?
Meaning that if I have Alex Rodriguez on my team, and he hits a home run, say, tonight, my team gets credit for it. The site we use adds up all the home runs, hits, strikeouts, etc. from the players on each of our teams and compares them. If I have more home runs than the other team, I "win" that category. If I have less, I "lose." We add up all the wins and losses as we go and play out our season in conjunction with the real baseball season.

So, if Brad Pitt was on my team -- an A-list actor, married to Angelina Jolie, adopts orphans in other countries, gives to charities, gives people lots of free sexual fantasies -- is he better and is my team gonna fare better than if I had say... oh... I can't think of anyone specific right now for some reason. Let's say Dodie, a pretend character who works at the drug store down the street, but spent 20 years in jail for murdering her husband and feeding him to a pig?

Is it really a game where you win simply by who you are as a person and how successful you are? Wow.
I have no idea what this means, but I'm gonna say...yes?

Sexy Celebrity
04-08-09, 03:44 PM
Wait - I get ya now - I'm sorry. You mean people play as BASEBALL PLAYERS...

I didn't get that. I thought you meant people play as themselves. As in, you would be Chris, I'd be Jason, if you are more successful than me in life, your team does better. Like, if a baseball team full of homeless people played against a baseball team full of scientists, the homeless people don't have a chance.

I got confused and thought of something silly. Sorry.

Yoda
04-08-09, 03:50 PM
No sweat. Glad it all makes sense now.

Like, if a baseball team full of homeless people played against a baseball team full of scientists, the homeless people don't have a chance.
I feel like this sentence needs to be preserved or honored somehow.

Powdered Water
04-08-09, 08:25 PM
Speaking of scoring (sort of). Why don't we have an actual "hits" category? We have RBI"S, Walks and all of the other good stuff. It seems like we should also have a hits category no? I know some of that translates to Average and slugging percentage but still. Is that an option, maybe for next year? You probably can't change it now yeah?

I'm also not real impressed with the "Holds" category. Seems like a lucky win to me. I mean, what is a "Hold" anyway? And when did it become a stat the MLB kept track of?

mark f
04-08-09, 09:48 PM
Vin Scully (in his 60th consecutive season with the team) did mention during last night's Dodger game that it was the 40th anniversary of MLB's first official save. Bill Singer saved the win for Don Drysdale 3-2 against the Reds. As far as holds go, it seem a pretty lightweight stat. I even picked somebody because they had several holds last year, but this year, the guy's a closer.

Powdered Water
04-08-09, 09:53 PM
I'm sure you've heard some clips of the Japanese "Vin Scully" haven't you? Jon Miller does a great impersonation of him too.

Yoda
04-08-09, 10:10 PM
Yeah, you hit upon the logic; I was thinking it'd be redundant to have hits given that we have AVG and OBP. Even OBP is a little redundant. I was going to ditch AVG, but it's just such a fantasy staple that it'd be too weird not to have it.

You might be right about Holds; the thought there, right or wrong, was that it'd be cool to given even non-closer relievers some value, but perhaps you're right.

And yeah, unfortunately it's too late to change anything, but we should definitely see how all this shakes out and adjust next year accordingly. :)

Powdered Water
04-08-09, 10:17 PM
I'm really looking forward to the 12th so I can see how the wins and losses are tallied or if we just receive one win or one loss or what have you. It appears that the stattracker is totaling up everything so far as "One game", so I wonder if after this whole week and a half we all are going to end up with either a win or a loss.

Yoda
04-08-09, 10:29 PM
I'm pretty sure each category is a game unto itself, but, per usual: I could be wrong. :)

Powdered Water
04-08-09, 10:35 PM
Perhaps this is a sign of things to come for you Chris. Didn't Mike drill you pretty good on opening week of Football too? If I remember correctly you went on to win the little game called the MoFo Bowl did you not?

Yoda
04-08-09, 10:39 PM
This is true, he did whoop me in football, too. My, what a depressing positive omen. :D

But yeah, I'm getting totally creamed. I can't believe that, with Rollins, Sizemore, Kemp, Crawford, and Holliday, I have zero stolen bases. Zero!

Pity I was away from the computer, too, because if I had been around I might have noticed that Holliday wasn't expected to play, so I would have played Cruz, who's already homered tonight. D'oh.

Sedai
04-09-09, 11:24 AM
I just have the one stolen base so far. I actually thought I was getting a different Roberts on Baltimore, a guy that is a steal specialist, but the guy I drafted is not who I thought it was. Alas, dude has three runs, so I am not complaining at the mo. Ellsbury is slumping, and might have been a mistake. I could have snagged some better talent that round, I think. I just wanted to make sure I ended up with a couple of Sox...

Yoda
04-09-09, 11:53 AM
Yeah, there's something to be said for taking guys you know you'll enjoy following. I'm not positive, but I think, with the exception of Posada in a different league last year, I'd never had a Yankee. Possibly because a lot of them are overvalued in terms of draft position, but probably not a total coincidence. So I won't begrudge anyone taking a few guys from their own team. :)

Anyway, the creaming has gotten worse, if that's even possible. I got a couple so-so starts last night, but all but 2 or 3 of the pitching categories are lost causes. I think Rollins has, like, one hit in 3 games. At this point I'm just hoping to get it within striking distance and get my way up to 5-6 wins. Then, mercifully, move on to the next opponent. :laugh:

Sedai
04-09-09, 12:18 PM
I plan on sitting down and doing some reading this weekend, so I can get a better grasp of what is going on. I am winning this one, but that is certainly not due to anything I did, aside from choose names I recognized. I also picked a couple of players I despise, in Jeter and Thome, because they always seem to play really well when i watch them, usually causing a Red Sox loss at the time. I curse their names, while simultaneously cheering their stats.

Powdered Water
04-09-09, 08:55 PM
My team went into the toilet today. Help me Obi Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope...

Sedai
04-10-09, 10:14 AM
Today is a big day for me, as I have a large majority of my players starting. I am finally getting some closers/relievers in place, and have balanced my roster a bit, with some back-ups in place where needed. Lowe goes again tonight, as well as Weaver, who has yet to play after having his game postponed last night due to the terrible tragedy the Angels are dealing with.

My heart goes out to this club, and I am hoping they grab a win against my beloved Sox tonight, because they need something good in their lives right now. Go Weaver.

Sedai
04-10-09, 12:58 PM
A quick question for you guys -

In the following slots, what sort of Rp/Closer mix do you recommend?

RP, RP, P, P

I feel like I am not getting enough saves, so I changed out a reliever for another closer today, in Frank Francisco. Now I have 3 closers and a reliever. I had them split evenly, but my relievers sort of blow, so I thought I would try 3 closers.

Yoda
04-10-09, 01:58 PM
I think the answer to that question is team-specific. I'd go as far as to say that one decision is a big part of each owner's strategy on a given day; whether or not they need things SPs provide, like wins, IPs, and Ks, or whether or not they need saves, to keep their ERA and WHIP low, etc. Total judgmental call depending on the numbers, though, I think.

Anyway, I had a respectable day yesterday; Carpenter allowed one hit and no earned runs in 7 innings, and Cain put up similar numbers. Sizemore went deep twice. So, at least I clawed my way back towards a chance at a respectable showing.

Now if only Rollins and Fielder could remember how to hit the baseball. ;)

Sedai
04-10-09, 02:27 PM
We will have a more balanced score after today, I think. I have a lot of guys going, which could net me some more hits etc, but I have another SP going as well, who has a chance of getting nailed. I need Ks though, so I am running him.

Sedai
04-10-09, 05:38 PM
So... How can this happen...

I was watching stattracker and my man Ibanez cracks a single, heads to the base...but his stat flips to 0-1? Huzzuh? There he stands on the base, but he is 0-1... It appears the other team made a fielding error. So why isn't that a hit? Dude hit the ball and got to base!

Yoda
04-10-09, 06:02 PM
That's standard baseball scoring; if he reaches base through an error, it's obviously not a hit, because he only reached based because of the fielder's incompetence. That's why the error designation exists: to make a distinction between reaching base through your own skill, and through some other means outside of your control.

Sedai
04-12-09, 02:05 PM
Yoda's team is closing the gap!

mark f
04-12-09, 11:17 PM
I think that mikey said that there's a way to put your DLers on the fantasy DL and call up some new players without losing them. If that's true, I don't know how to do that. Does anybody know anything about this?

Sedai
04-12-09, 11:35 PM
Make sure they are on the DL in real life. Grab the player marked DL and begin to drag him; the DL slot will appear below. ;)

Yoda
04-12-09, 11:43 PM
Ouch. The Clueless Clowns went on a power barrage and somehow caught me in home runs. None of my relievers pitched today, which means I'm going to barely lose Ks and IPs, too. 15-3. Yikes. I think this beating has caused my physical person actual pain.

Well done, Seds. Your pitching staff was insanely good this week. Seriously, this could easily end up being one of the best weeks (if not the best) any pitching staff puts up for any team all year. Bravo.

The Isotopes are in a hole already. We'll just have to dig our way out!

mark f
04-12-09, 11:51 PM
Thanks.

Sedai
04-13-09, 10:02 AM
Well, it's just luck, mostly. I have no idea who Josh Johnson is, he was just next in the list of starters when I was drafting, so I snagged him. He seems to be really good so far, pitching a full game in his last outing. I still feel like I am short a starter, but I have Scherzer coming off the DL tomorrow, so hopefully he fills in the gap well until Santana is back in action.

A weird thing - I had a waiver claim in for Saunders, but it just vanished once the deadline hit and he went to free agency. I kept my priority, so it's no big deal, but I need to figure out where I gaffed stuff up. I have an empty roster slot, and have had it for a few days, so I think I am OK there.

Anyway - a fun first week, and I am starting to get my head around the way things work in FBB.

Sedai
04-13-09, 03:45 PM
My opponent should take an early lead this week, as I have exactly zero pitchers available for day one!

mark f
04-13-09, 07:23 PM
My O-Dog just hit for the cycle.

Sedai
04-14-09, 10:45 AM
So...what happened? The scores for week 2 reset to 0 across the board today... Does yesterday not count for some reason?

Yoda
04-14-09, 11:16 AM
Those don't usually update until the next day's games begin. Yesterday counts.

Sedai
04-14-09, 11:40 AM
I mean on StatTracker itself, which was running fine last night and had the scores up for all the games going on.

Yoda
04-14-09, 12:46 PM
I assume the same kind of quirks apply, but I haven't checked it often enough to see. I think it's a pretty safe bet that it's just some daily reset thing, or some rule where certain things don't show up before the next batch of games. Baseball's day-in, day-out schedule just means there's a lot more to go through, so I'm guessing this kinda stuff is inevitable.

This is the second time someone has thought that a day would simply be ignored. Relax, guys. ;) This stuff always makes sense.

Yoda
04-14-09, 12:48 PM
Oh, and eschewing fantasy baseball for, er, reality baseball for a moment: awesome win for the Bucs yesterday. Got myself a day off and went to the home opener. Pirates won 7-0 on the strength of 14 hits and a 4-hit Zach Duke shutout. Very satisfying victory all around. I've been to something like 4 of the last 5 openers, and this blew them all away.

It's early, of course, and I'm painfully aware of the regularity with which this team sucks me back in with false hopes each season, but it's still nice to see early hints that the team may not be horrible.

mikeython1
04-14-09, 12:56 PM
Yeah I checked my other league and the scores were set back to zero also. The scores will probably be back by the beginning of the first game today.

Sedai
04-14-09, 01:15 PM
I think the first day of each series acts a bit wonky for some reason. I am just curious as to how all my late games went! Sorry for the annoying questions.

mikeython1
04-14-09, 02:00 PM
This is hilarious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQXVyRVaoeA

Someone might want to pick him up.

Yoda
04-14-09, 02:07 PM
:laugh: I love it when position players have to pitch. Makes the batters look bad, usually, but you can hardly blame them; so much of what they do is based on timing and delivery, and the "pitchers" are usually so unconventional in regards to both.

Gotta love how laid-back this game still is sometimes.

mikeython1
04-14-09, 02:11 PM
The Yankee's are not looking to hot this year. They need A-Rod back really bad.

mikeython1
04-14-09, 02:18 PM
The Stats are back up Sedai. :)

Sedai
04-14-09, 02:31 PM
Why was Swisher pitching?? Weird...

Yeah...He's a drop!

Powdered Water
04-14-09, 07:46 PM
I heard he did manage to get out the inning... which is nice. :laugh:

TONGO
04-15-09, 07:50 AM
Ugh I suck. Sorry I havent done a damn thing with Fantasy Baseball. Been seriously tied up to the point I dont even know whose on my team. Yoda you have my account info. Please give it to someone on the forum that wants in the league. Sorry again guys, but dont fret Ill be back for Fantasy Football or you can start calling me Joaquin Phoenix.

Sedai
04-16-09, 12:31 PM
Eek! Complete team meltdown over the past two days. Tough week!

Yoda
04-16-09, 01:43 PM
Aye. I had Nelson Cruz on the bench, so naturally he goes yard and knocks in six runs, which would have single-handled brought me right back into the RBI category, where Mark is otherwise whooping me.

Powdered Water
04-16-09, 10:01 PM
Is it Football season yet?

I mean, this is fun and all, but is it?

I think I have a decent Baseball team, but who knows really? It seems a little random whether or not you can consistently do good at this thing. I may improve over time but Football seems to be where its at.

Yoda
04-16-09, 10:33 PM
Hmm, well, I find it fun. But it is baseball...more about steady progress and performance over the long haul, with obviously a good deal less at stake for each game. Sorry you're not digging it as much. It does take some getting used to and I find it's fun and satisfying and all, but certainly in a different way than fantasy football.

Powdered Water
04-16-09, 11:33 PM
Its a long season and I expect I'll get a little more knowledgeable about this thing. And its not that I'm not having fun, I guess I'm just more of a Football guy, you know?

I'll keep plugging away at it. I'm still learning the ropes.

When do we play anyway? Is there a way to see the schedule on yahoo? I haven't really checked.

Powdered Water
04-18-09, 01:35 PM
I'm a little irritated, my Catcher is definitely out today and probably for 2 or 3 more days. No biggie, I dropped him and plugged in someone else.

It won't let me play the guy I picked up today though. So basically I'm screwed for today. Why is this? Its not possible to carry a backup at every position as we are only allowed what? 5 bench players? I don't get it. In real Baseball you can trade or bring someone up or pick him up off the street and they can play immediately, why isn't this the case in FBB?

Yoda
04-18-09, 03:32 PM
I believe the rule is that those sorts of changes only apply to the next day. I don't know if this is universal, or if it only counts once you get too close to the start of the next day's games. I think it's the latter.

Powdered Water
04-18-09, 03:45 PM
It is what it is. I guess that's just the way Yahoo runs this league. I wonder if that's something that could potentially be tweaked next year?

It's not like I'm completely sideways or anything, just bummed. Both of my SS's are probably out as well and after trying to switch Catchers to no avail, I guess I'll just wait it out. I checked it pretty early this morning and saw I had a few guys that would most likely not be playing today and started to make changes, but unlike FFB, you can't make a change and play the guy on the same day, apparently.

Sedai
04-20-09, 04:15 PM
My team has a light day today, as well, Even my back-ups are off.

I am stunned my team managed to salvage a tie last week. Before the weekend, I had a big 'ol field full of BUMS playing. A few went off over the weekend, though, which got me into tie territory.

Onward and upward!

Sedai
04-24-09, 12:56 PM
This thread is getting pretty quiet...

Yoda
04-24-09, 01:14 PM
I thought about coming in here a few times to make fun of myself for updating my roster late way too often, playing the wrong pitchers more than once, and constantly guessing wrong on which of my five eminently playtime-worthy OFs to bench on a given day, but then I decided better of it. :D

Sedai
04-24-09, 01:16 PM
Yeah - Just Hamilton is a bust for me, so far, and a big one, at that. He will come alive soon, I just know it!

Yoda
04-24-09, 02:32 PM
Aye, he will.

And I hear ya' on the bust front. I've gotten basically nothing out of Prince Fielder, Jimmy Rollins, or Matt Holliday, and one good start out of Cliff Lee. Yikes.

But hey, it's fantasy baseball, which means there's a looooong way to go. It'll even out.

Powdered Water
04-25-09, 11:58 AM
Albert Pujols has 3 stolen bases this week. Yes, I said Albert Pujols. Funny stuff that...

Sedai
04-25-09, 12:29 PM
Pujols is dangerous...

mikeython1
04-25-09, 07:55 PM
Pujols is dangerous...
Tell me about it! He just hit a grand slam against the cubs!

Powdered Water
04-25-09, 07:57 PM
Did he? Nice!

Sedai
04-26-09, 12:24 PM
Another sweet Sox/Yanks game last night! Youk is sick...

Powdered Water
04-26-09, 12:30 PM
I just picked up Boston's Third basemen, Lowell. Seems like a pretty nice player.

Sedai
04-26-09, 04:10 PM
He was available? Arg! Thought for sure he would be taken...

Powdered Water
04-26-09, 04:23 PM
Yeah, I wish Yahoo would have let me play him yesterday though. What did he have? 6 RBI's yesterday? Sheesh!

I plunked him in the lineup today, so six more please! :D

Yoda
04-26-09, 06:36 PM
By the by, to answer an earlier question: I do think this "use the next day only" thing is Yahoo-specific, which is pretty lame. I don't remember seeing an option for it. Yahoo was so great with their fantasy football setup that I naturally assumed they'd be good with baseball...and 90% of it is just fine here...but yeah, there are a few little annoying quirks that I've never really had with past leagues, but are present here. Sorry about that guys -- next year I'll put a bit more time into finding a league that suits everyone a little better.

Powdered Water
04-26-09, 07:28 PM
My team is just going off today. I may have a shot at catching Seds if I can put a few more weeks like this together. His team is kicking some serious butt. To bad he doesn't have a clue what he's doing or we'd all really be screwed huh? :p

Oh, and I assume its one of Mikeython's buddies I'm playing right now so I can't really properly talk trash to him but I will anyway so Mikey can pass it along. Chillax picked up Washburn and started him today. FOOL! Washburn is terrible! And he promtply gave up a crapload of runs in just a few innings today which enabled me to grab the ERA race as well. There's still time left today but its looking to be a real nice week.

Play Ball!

Sedai
04-27-09, 10:33 AM
So...who did I just clobber? I am unsure who all the players are in our league... Red Sox went off this weekend...

mikeython1
04-27-09, 01:35 PM
You just clobbered mark f. My game got pretty close there at the end. Sorry Yoda maybe next time. :D

Sedai
04-27-09, 01:40 PM
Man - My team was ridiculous over the weekend, and I think I have my pitching staff about set; I just need to make one more change.

Yoda
04-27-09, 03:51 PM
Aye, got some BoSox during that streak = gangbusters.

My team has sorely underachieved, mainly because I've done a poor job of remembering to get the right pitchers in, and because several of my best hitters have had extremely slow starts. Gotta figure that Fielder, Rollins, and Holliday will all get their hacks in, though, so I'm not worried yet.

One thing that's really hampered me is that I have a lot of so-so and pretty-good pitchers, which means I'm basically waiting around to see who pans out, who bombs, etc, so I can drop the underachievers and pick up another bench player to help out on off-days. Right now I really only have room for a couple, as I can't really afford to dump any of the pitchers until I see what's what.

This definitely makes things difficult, though at the same time I think it'll pay huge dividends, as I'll have separated the wheat from the chaff pretty early on, and I've got enough prospects that I have to figure 3-4 of them will end up being quite solid.

All that said, I'm still stuck benching one of my five OFs, all of which are worthy of starting by a significant margin. So it anyone's looking for steals or even some power, and is interested in Crawford, Cruz, or possibly even Kemp, I'm all ears. Right now I'm wasting a good hitter almost every night, though, and that just won't do. :nope:

Powdered Water
05-04-09, 01:40 AM
Bah, thanks Pittsburgh, you screwed me again. The pirates could have at least scored about 15 runs or so today but noooooooo. Pffffft.

Oh well, looks like I'm still going to make up some ground on Seds this week.

Looks like Yoder and I are finally hooking up for the first time this season starting Monday.

On. On like Donkey Kong!

Yoda
05-05-09, 01:52 PM
GAH! I'm losing my mind. I keep trying to decide who to play: Cruz or Crawford. And I can't believe how often I guess wrong. I put in Cruz the other day, Crawford goes 4-for-4 with six stolen bases. SIX. STOLEN. BASES. It didn't end up hurting me in that category, but good grief...

I'm basically losing my mind. Must trade. I'm going to start throwing offers around like a madman until I can find a reasonable taker for one of these hitters. I'm not trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes: these guys can all hit. I just can't afford to keep benching at least one of them. Prepare to be bomarded, MoFos.

By the by, I'm really torn on your offer the other day, PW. Solid offer all-around, quite fair, but I've got nowhere to put the guy right now. He'd just make for some nice depth. Open to any re-workings (or broadenings), or is that the only package that makes sense for you right now?

Sedai
05-05-09, 02:23 PM
Make me an offer for Crawford

I experienced a massive pitching problem last week, with not nearly enough innings pitched. I had two main sluggers benched, as well, which didn't help. This week I have three starters double dipping.

Powdered Water
05-05-09, 11:54 PM
By the by, I'm really torn on your offer the other day, PW. Solid offer all-around, quite fair, but I've got nowhere to put the guy right now. He'd just make for some nice depth. Open to any re-workings (or broadenings), or is that the only package that makes sense for you right now?

I'll think about it. Probably not though. I really like most of my team. I like Franklin a lot but I don't think I'm going to sweeten my end anymore. And if you need a place to play Pena I'd say start him at First Base. His numbers are better than Fielders. Pull the trigger big guy! :p

Yoda
05-06-09, 11:09 AM
I don't think I can possibly justify playing Pena over Fielder at this point; Cecil Jr. would have to struggle a bit longer for that, I think. Anyway, I wasn't thinking of you making your end better, so much as maybe both of us adding a player so I can avoid creating more matchup judgment calls for myself, seeing as how I've been even worse than those than you'd expect random guesses to be. :rolleyes:

Powdered Water
05-10-09, 12:57 PM
A lot of great matchups this week. Quite a few close games. Yoda and myself included. My usual offensive output dropped quite a bit this week but that's because I have several dudes sporting injuries.

I had to cancel my trade offer Chris, I may need Pena after all, now that Pujols is also dinged up. And, my All Star third baseman just went on the shelf for possibly as long as two months! Drat! Thankfully Mike Lowell is having a very nice year so far, so as long as he doesn't get hurt too I should be all right.

Anyway...

mikeython1
05-10-09, 01:16 PM
Yeah my game with Mark is really close and has been all week.

Powdered Water
05-10-09, 01:21 PM
I'm really bummed that Swedish and Tongo have both pulled disappearing acts, at least Tongo checked in awhile back and basically said he wasn't going to be able to do much with his team but Swedish has completely vanished.

Oh well...

I hope they can manage to reappear for Football season. They were both very competitive last year.

mikeython1
05-10-09, 01:27 PM
Baseball is fun but Football is the best.

Yoda
05-10-09, 01:34 PM
No sweat PW; I was really torn on it anyway. Sorry I hemmed and hawed so long.

I agree, it is kind of a bummer that they're both not around. Baseball works better with 12 or more teams when using both AL and NL rosters, because it forces you to really work to find those hidden gem players. 10 does fine and is actually pretty common, but I've been in some bigger leagues, and it really forces you to pay attention to the outliers and pick up on trends. It also keeps things more fun when an owner or two -- as is inevitably the case -- isn't as involved.

So, yeah, big bummer there, but not much we can do about it. This is sort of an experimental year, I suppose, given that it took some time to come together and some of the settings are a little odd. We'll learn from it and adjust things accordingly next year -- I just hope you guys are still having a good time and will be up for an improved/tweaked version of everything next season. :)

Yoda
05-10-09, 01:36 PM
Had a funny two days in my matchup with PW....got two BRILLIANT starts one day, then two complete bombs the next. At least my pitching staff is separating a bit; I don't want any of them to do poorly, but if a couple do, at least it'll let me know who to keep and who to drop, so I can grab another position player or two. The worst thing that could happen would be for them to each go up and down, so I find myself hanging onto more starters than I need to see who pans out.

Anyway, though I've started slow I feel very good about where I am. I think I'll be just a bit below .500, and will have established which pitchers I can "trust." That, and I have to assume that Fielder, Rollins, and Holliday are all going to put up far better numbers from here on out than they have so far. Right? Right?

Powdered Water
05-10-09, 01:50 PM
Definitely having a good time, I'm still a little frustrated by the subbing players thing but its not the end of the world (I think!) and if I were able to check in everyday on my roster I would probably be able to get more production from my starters. Although even that wouldn't guarantee that an every day player is in fact going to play everyday. Most teams don't put up their lineups until what? 15 minutes before the game or so? So its a bit of a crap shoot at times I guess, no biggie, it is what it is.

Sedai
05-11-09, 10:57 AM
Well, my first close match of the year! Swedish and I were damn close this week, and I just managed to pull it out 9-8 with a ridiculous pitching performance. That said, I am having serious power problems right now, with Youkalis, Hamilton and Posada all OUT. Youk didn't play at all last week - I am stunned I won without these guys.

My entire team seems to be off today... Not one player is playing today? That can't be right...

Powdered Water
05-16-09, 01:02 AM
Now Seds is whipping my ass this week. Looks to this reporter like we're going to chasing you all season Seds. Good job.

Sedai
05-16-09, 12:54 PM
My power just EXPLODED yesterday. What a ridiculous night. Grand slams, triples, doubles, lots of RBIs... My average slugging across all players was 1.2 yesterday...1.2!!! That said, my pitching is just mediocre this week, with much of my relif having injury or control problems. I went ahead and shipped one of my closers for a relif guy, so I can maybe get a hold this year (I have 0 so far). ;)

I do have a starter hurling tonight, and two going tomorrow, so I may even up the pitching a bit. PW is WAY out in front on Ks though. Oddly, I have very few steals this week too, as Elsbury has stopped hitting singles and stealing, opting for doubles and triples this week, which is just fine. Roberts is quiet on the 2-bag snags as well...

I am psyched I somehow ended up with the number one catcher in Inge (even though he plays 3rd base most of the time), and two of the best 2-baggers in the game so far, in Roberts and Hill. These were just random picks for me, really.

Powdered Water
05-16-09, 03:12 PM
Yeah, I was actually looking forward to going head to head with you in most of the offensive categories and of course now my team is having a major power outage this week. I've still got several guys banged up and now Ramirez may be out for most of the season for the Cubs... I hated to do it but I had to drop him.

Good news it is that Vlad should be coming back soon and boy can I use him...

Yoda
05-17-09, 12:11 PM
Nice pickup of Bailey, Seds. I was this close to grabbing him a couple of days ago, but was still uncertain about how my closer situation is going to shake out.

Down 9-5 to TONGO heading into the last day, but it's really close. We're tied in five categories, and I'm within striking distance of 8 of his 9 wins, whereas 4 of my 5 are pretty safe.

mikeython1
05-19-09, 09:09 PM
First MoFo League trade pending.

Powdered Water
05-19-09, 11:02 PM
My team has gone into the toilet of late...

Now Mark is kicking my ass too. *sigh*

Yoda
05-19-09, 11:07 PM
I managed to pull even with TONGO, but I really think I should've taken that one. Meh.

Behind early this week, but very few games have been played, so we'll see how it shakes out. Given how little I've gotten out of Rollins and Holliday, and how drop-dead terrible Atkins and Kendrick have been, I'm actually doing better than I would have guessed. My pitching staff gave me the information I needed and I actually feel surprisingly good going foward.

I think. ;)

Powdered Water
05-20-09, 10:21 PM
I see Seds just dumped Davis... I don't blame you. He's got a lot of power but his strike out's are just ridiculous. I would have held onto him if he had any kind of average at all but I get the same thing out of Pena and he has a respectable average.

My team is back to clobbering the ball today so things are looking up!

mark f
05-20-09, 10:34 PM
Yeah, I got a win and a save in the same game, and I was ahead before that, so that gave me +2, but now, I'm -2. This game would probably make major league managers commit suicide!

Powdered Water
05-20-09, 10:48 PM
What do you think so far Mark? You having fun? I love tinkering with my lineup. I probably mess with it more than I should, but its just so damn fun to tinker with. Dig?

Powdered Water
05-20-09, 10:54 PM
I keep trying to change my nickname but it keeps changing back to the default one I've been using. Does anyone know anything about how to save it? Or change it?

mark f
05-22-09, 02:16 AM
OK, I just found another flaw with the stats which hadn't registered with me before. You know how the Statracker doesn't update errors until the next day, but you can see the errors as they happen when you check your fantasy team or matchup page? Well, I noticed that one of my fielders made an error today, so that would put me down another category. I like to double check all the game's box scores where my or my opponent's players may have made an error. So I checked the SF Giants game, and lo and behold, pitcher Tim Lincecum made an error, but pitchers, who obviously play defense, don't have their errors counted! What a rip-off. I can understand (even if it pisses me off) that they don't count the pitcher's batting because we have a substitute player for him to balance out between the two leagues, but considering the pitcher is such an important part of the defensive team, I think I'm getting shafted.

Anyhow, I just thought I'd mention it. I fully intend to roar back the next three days, so be careful, PW.

Powdered Water
05-22-09, 09:05 PM
So Lincecum made an error but it didn't go down as E-1? That's not right. Are you sure it was Lincecum? I think he left after the seventh. That is pretty lame though if you're right. Which I have no reason to believe you aren't. Any player in the field who records an error should be getting dinged for it.

This whole year is basically a trial and error kind of deal so I hope it won't sour you on the whole experience too much Mark.

I think Yoda is going to check out a few other sites free leagues, or I will if he doesn't have the time so we can compare and contrast the differences for next season. Yahoo's Football league was pretty terrific but so far, I think their Baseball league needs a little more work. So keep the faith buddy, we're going to find something a little less quirky for next season.

And I can't believe I was able to pick up Carpenter. I heard in the morning two days ago that he had returned off the DL and I was wondering all day long if someone had snatched him up and I lucked out! Sweet! My pitching staff is starting to look pretty damn dominant. I'm ready to take a serious run at Seds now I think.

mark f
05-22-09, 09:26 PM
I was just venting because I went so far down yesterday. I knew you had four starters going, but our stats are pretty close in most all of the categories. Anyway, it's early and I've already had to eat it for a while with A-Rod and Brandon Webb and now with Manny and Ludwick, but everybody has had to take it too. The thing that gets me is how the two teams with no managers are smack dab in the middle of the standings, putting me in the second division. Of course, I'm in the second division because of the Sedai 17-0 fiasco, which should go down in Ripley's.

Yoda
05-22-09, 09:28 PM
It's kinda lame, but it's definitely standard in every league I've played in. I'm guessing the headache involved from a logistical standpoint isn't worth accounting for the odd flukey where a pitcher crosses over into fielding/hitting stats, given the sheer number of games and how unlikely it is to matter.

Not that I won't be annoyed when it happens to me at some point, of course.

Powdered Water
05-22-09, 09:36 PM
Oh, is that right? I'll take your word for it Chris. This is my first go around with FBB. That is kind of odd though. I mean, its just an error, I can't imagine it would that difficult to just record them like everything else.

mark f
05-22-09, 09:45 PM
Pitchers win Gold Gloves. They have to field the ball. It seems odd that we all get nine players to bat (because of the DH), but then this extra batter all of a sudden not only bats for the pitcher, but he fields for him too? I've seen a crapload of games decided by pitchers' good and bad defense. (The Dodgers swept the Mets in part due to horrible defense by the Pitcher.) Maybe it's just because I hate the DH, so I have another excuse to vent.

Powdered Water
05-22-09, 09:48 PM
Uh-Oh! We've got a purist on the line folks!

Hates the DH indeed... :laugh:

Luv ya Mark!

Yoda
05-22-09, 09:52 PM
Heh. Well, I hate the DH, too, and I'm not defending the logic. It's fantasy baseball, after all, so it's only going to be so realistic. The 9 hitters thing is a coincidence, ironically; many leagues with 10 teams and both AL and NL rosters use four outfielders, given that there are so many available.

Anyway, I'm not defending the practice, just trying to explain it, and pointing out that it's not just another annoying Yahoo quirk.

Powdered Water
05-22-09, 09:56 PM
You freakin' National League towns are so elitist. :D

mark f
05-22-09, 10:08 PM
Look, some of us like films (like Bull Durham), and then putzes like movies (like Major League)!! :D

Powdered Water
05-22-09, 10:10 PM
:rotfl:

Or flicks... those are good too!

Powdered Water
05-22-09, 10:11 PM
Anywho, I thought Daisuke was stinking up the joint but man... Your guy was just terrible Mark. 36.00 ERA is uh, not good.

mark f
05-22-09, 10:26 PM
I agree with you. He's probably going when I get back Webb, but he pitched well early. I keep expecting things to even out, but I may have to ditch him before I get Webb. And then, there are those who say that Webb is through too, but I can't give up on him after one game.

Powdered Water
05-22-09, 10:34 PM
John Maine, Joe Saunders and Scott Richmond are all available and are having pretty good years so far. I would have kept Saunders if I hadn't lucked out and picked up Carpenter. Hopefully he doesn't stink up the joint.

Powdered Water
05-22-09, 10:47 PM
Tim Wakefield and as much as it pains me to say this... Ex Mariner, Joel Pineiro are also fairing pretty well this season So Mark, I say... "Cut his ass."

Powdered Water
05-23-09, 11:48 PM
Man, Mark and I are just slugging it out. I'm ahead in several categories but by the slimmest of margins. This is going to go right down to the wire. I think I have a few of them pretty well nailed down but I count no less than six games that are within two points or less. Good stuff Mark.

Powdered Water
05-25-09, 02:05 PM
This is really frustrating. Vlad is coming back today and Yahoo won't let me plug him into the lineup until tomorrow. I had to drop a player to get him off the DL which is fine but it won't let me play him today... Ack! I really don't like that little feature.

Yahoo doesn't even have him listed as active today but The Angels site says he'll be hitting DH today. Whatever.

Yoda
05-25-09, 02:06 PM
Well, I managed to come back from a late-week deficit and win the series 10-7, which is a relief. Really needed a turning point and after coming back to tie one series and now coming back to win another, I think I might be on the road to respectability.

I hope. ;)

Still waiting on some of my bigger hitters to come through, whereas most of my pitchers have been fantastic, or quickly overcome slow starts. It's the exact opposite of what I expected, actually; I figured I'd have to sort through a lot of mediocre pitching for awhile and that the hitting would dominate. Odd.

Powdered Water
05-25-09, 02:22 PM
Yeah, I really lucked out this week. Mark and I were really close in about 10 games and I managed to squeak out victories in most of them. Enough to get me back into second place! Go Me!

Yoda
05-25-09, 02:37 PM
Yeah, I saw that it was 16-1 just the other day, though most of the categories were within shouting distance. Crazy.

Sedai
05-26-09, 03:22 PM
I managed to squeak this wek out, even with a major pitching mistake on Saturday. I was super, super busy all day, and never had a chance to check my Fantasy stuff, and both Beckett and Lowe were on my bench!!! I thought for sure it would ruin me, and, it sort of did, as I didn't do so well in pitching categories (I would have won a few with those guys stats, for sure).

Luckily the rest of my guys came through and pulled the win out for me. I musn't make that mistake again, leaving not one, but two aces on the bench when they start that day.

Sedai
05-28-09, 02:33 PM
GRRRRRRRRR!!!!!

Man, I am making SO many frippin mistakes. This is the third time my @%^$&*@ ace is sitting on the bench during his start. I just can't seem to remember to check my line-up before 1pm each day. This is so damn lame. There goes my chance to win pitching this week, as I absolutely needed Beckett to play to have a chance in hell, as I was already way behind in pitching.

I am SO PISSED right now.

Yoda
05-28-09, 02:37 PM
It takes a lot of time to get used to the morning routine of checking the lineup. And in our collective defense, Yahoo isn't as good about starting pitcher projections as most other places I've used. Most of them know days in advance with a very high success rate who's playing, but with Yahoo you seem to only get the little accompanying arrow in the day leading up to it, which is kind of silly.

Anyway, just another reason we'll want to use another service next year, methinks.

Sedai
05-28-09, 02:43 PM
Yeah - Of course, Beckett is insane so far, striking out every single batter he has faced since the game started. Last time I started him he gave up 7 runs and got pulled in the 5th. I missed both his last really sweet starts, as well as Lowe on Saturday, as well.

My pitching is falling apart. You know, the ones I actually play! Santana is awful, and I kept him on the DL for weeks waiting for him.

Man, I am sure I checked ahead yesterday and there was no arrow next to Beckett!
Relying on my bats again this week. Glad I am vs TONGO this week. Hopefully will be a forgiving week for dumb-ass errors.

*Kicks self in ass*

Powdered Water
05-28-09, 09:54 PM
I've been trying to set my pitching lineups days in advance because I simply can't get on in the morning to check it. For the most part it works. Occasionally Yahoo resets itself though, or, I just hit the wrong button or something. It helps if my pitchers go on different days, which several of them do.

I mean, I could get on, I just have a fundamental core issue with not getting up earlier than 5:00 am. And I'm sticking to it dammit!

mark f
05-28-09, 10:05 PM
I always do everything the night (and week) before because as far as I can tell, I can't change anything after 12AM the day of the game.

Powdered Water
05-31-09, 03:26 PM
Boy, another really close week that so far I'm coming out ahead in. If things can hold up for me I hope to make up a little ground on the Sedster. Who is actually down a few games right now.

Go Ragers!!!!

Sedai
05-31-09, 04:11 PM
Aye - Tis the truth ye speak.

(I just watched Pirates II, btw..)

I still have two SPs to go today, so I hope to grab a couple of close categories in the pitching frame. I also hope to snag the HR stat by days end, which is quite close. The last minute benching of Hamilton hurts me, though.

Powdered Water
05-31-09, 04:30 PM
Love those flicks, don't care who knows it either... :D

Yeah, I was perusing over your team and it appears you should be able to pick up a few more wins. I see you've got Santana going against my woeful Mariners today. You could get some pretty nice numbers from that matchup.