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tines14
09-12-08, 06:03 AM
Hi All,

Just wanna know. What do you think about blu-ray movies?

Cyberia
09-12-08, 03:49 PM
Are they better than DVD quality? So the disk is a bit smaller. Big deal! Light powered information cubes are just around the corner. You'll have several movies on something the size of a sugar cube which does not need to move to be read. No doubt something even smaller will follow that.

FILMFREAK087
09-12-08, 05:16 PM
Are they better than DVD quality? So the disk is a bit smaller. Big deal! Light powered information cubes are just around the corner. You'll have several movies on something the size of a sugar cube which does not need to move to be read. No doubt something even smaller will follow that.


Exactly! It's all going pure digital, i.e. video on demand. Also, as I have stated before "HD" is a marketing term that is used to sell discs. When dvd's were first released I clearly remember them saying they were "high definition", now they just abbreviate it and say it is better quality.

tines14
09-12-08, 09:37 PM
Yeah, it may better than dvd quality, but it will create problem when come to the player. Not all blu-ray player can play this kind of movies. It depends on the region code, I think. Yesterday, my friend told me that she can't watch "50 First Dates" that she borrowed from her friend. I think there shouldn't be any problems with it. Then, I check in some blu-ray movie websites and I found from http://www.regionfreemovies.com/bluray_region_coding that this movie has 2 types, which are region free and region B. The one with region free is from studio Sony Pictures. Another one doesn't have any explanation about the studio. Maybe, my friend got the one which is not region free.

qwertyboy999
03-24-09, 05:43 PM
Thinking of getting blue ray is it worththe bother??

Jerry Shaw
04-16-09, 06:49 AM
I do indeed collect Blu-Ray. They cost a little extra, but the quality and sound is amazing, i currently own on Blu-Ray.

Wall-E
I, Robot
Cloverfield
Close Encounters of the third kind
I Am Legend
The Dark Knight
Underworld
Underworld Evolution.

I plan to buy more when i have more money, and a job.

Adun
04-18-09, 06:47 PM
Are they better than DVD quality? So the disk is a bit smaller. Big deal! Light powered information cubes are just around the corner. You'll have several movies on something the size of a sugar cube which does not need to move to be read. No doubt something even smaller will follow that.

I think, untill the day that movie's will be played on sugar cube's, you most likely will al rdy get a blu-ray...
Tech is grwong very fast, but i think ill get 1...

RagingBull
04-25-09, 01:50 AM
Well, obviously they've got better picture and sound. But if you just watch a long duration, full-of-dialogue with very little action then the difference isn't worth $30.00
I do not have a Blu-Ray player but the new Raging Bull release looks very efficient, if anyone has seen it on Blu-Ray, let me know.

martian leader
05-25-09, 09:59 PM
I see no picture difference between the two. :nope: I think the regular DVDs are much clearer then blue ray. :yup:

7thson
05-25-09, 11:05 PM
Unless you have a true 1080p or better TV - or monitor - there does not see to be a great diff, to me anyway. However, many films in blu ray - No Country for Old Men is a great example I think, are just superb including the sound. PS3 is still the best choice out there IMO because you get internet and a gaming system also.

FILMFREAK087
06-24-09, 12:42 AM
I see no picture difference between the two. :nope: I think the regular DVDs are much clearer then blue ray. :yup:


I don't think dvds are "clearer" and that's actually the reason I am not impressed with blu-ray, yeah it's a little brighter, but while illuminating the perfections you also enhance the flaws, i.e.; film grain and background noise. Just my opinion. Clearer isn't always better. For example how much more "HD" can Family guy or The Simpsons be presented in? In the case of significantly older films it would be much more of a hinderance to see all the blemishes and imperfections.

jokerboy1991
06-24-09, 01:49 AM
At first, I did not see the slightest difference. But I honestly think it does show off HD's capability now. From time to time, I do still compare DVD and Blu-Ray and think "well that's not a big difference".

TheUsualSuspect
06-24-09, 01:59 AM
Film has a soft look to it, which works for a lot of films and actors like because it complements them. In HD, you see every wrinkle on their aging face. They do not like this, not one bit.

Myself? I own a PS3, so I have a few titles, only ones worth getting for the enhanced picture and sound. Although I do have a few stinkers because they were $10.

The Dark Knight
I, Robot
Stargate
Total Recall
JCVD
SAW II
Planet Earth

FILMFREAK087
06-24-09, 02:16 AM
Film has a soft look to it, which works for a lot of films and actors like because it complements them. In HD, you see every wrinkle on their aging face. They do not like this, not one bit.

Myself? I own a PS3, so I have a few titles, only ones worth getting for the enhanced picture and sound. Although I do have a few stinkers because they were $10.

The Dark Knight
I, Robot
Stargate
Total Recall
JCVD
SAW II
Planet Earth


Film making seems to be becoming more and more of an artificial and sterile process. More of a science and less of an art, sure Michael Bay can deliver crisp robotic mayhem, but how do any of these advances further the art of story-telling itself? If anything it's smothering it with superficial sheen. It seems people buy the latest format, not based on the content of the library, but by which has the higher resolution.

Tacitus
06-24-09, 05:01 AM
If anything it's smothering it with superficial sheen. It seems people buy the latest format, not based on the content of the library, but by which has the higher resolution.

Some people are just stupid, then. ;)

There are unsympathetic transfers on a few BD films just as there were in the early days of DVD (Blade Runner, anyone?) but quality seems a lot more uniform now.

Look at things like the new Blade Runner release, the Godfather Coppola Restoration, 2001 or The Wild Bunch. Fantastic and extremely natural transfers/reconstructions. If you watch those and still say you prefer DVD I'll offer to get your eyes chalked for you. :p

regnif
07-04-09, 07:02 AM
i dont see what all the noise is about..

it promises better image quality..well the dvds are already great to start with

it promises better sound quality...well a DVD home cinema system takes care of that very well thank you


i will only be buying a blu-ray player when DVD s will be taken off the market completely..but i think it wont be a while before that happens...the only advatage i see wiith the blu rays is that you can play your dvds on them as well...at least they took some time and thought of the dvd buyers who wont have to throw away all their dvds when the format wont be available anymore.

Spikez
07-30-09, 12:34 PM
Hmm, very expensive and very unnecessairy, I'm happy with what I have

spudracer
07-30-09, 12:52 PM
Hmm, very expensive and very unnecessairy, I'm happy with what I have

That statement is very true, but at the same time, very untrue.

Blu-Ray should be reserved for movies that rely heavily on special effects. Watching Old School on Blu-Ray would be crazy, as the true power of Blu-Ray would not even be noticeable. I watched Speed Racer on Blu-Ray and was blown away with how crisp and clear and, dare I say colorful, it was. Didn't help the film, overall, but the visuals were spectacular.

At the moment, the PlayStation 3 is the most logical choice for a Blu-Ray player, as it has multiple functions for which the price is nominal.

Tacitus
07-31-09, 06:27 AM
Blu-Ray should be reserved for movies that rely heavily on special effects.

I disagree completely and refer the honourable gentleman to the post I made earlier. ;)

spudracer
07-31-09, 09:22 AM
I disagree completely and refer the honourable gentleman to the post I made earlier. ;)

I saw that post. Ok, so there are some movies deserving of a viewing on Blu-Ray, but not every movie will get that flawless transfer.

Spikez
07-31-09, 09:40 AM
Well, if I just put on my glasses, everything starts looking like HD XD

shapeshifter
07-31-09, 10:47 AM
I only buy action/special effects films on Blu-ray, other films i buy dvd's.
There is a difference, but not a vast difference. The best thing i bought, was my surround sound which i run thru my ps3. Makes all films fantastic whether blu-ray or normal.:D

John McClane
07-31-09, 05:45 PM
I disagree completely and refer the honourable gentleman to the post I made earlier. ;)Nuff said. There are non-action films that have transfers that are 10 times better than some action films.

Sexy Celebrity
07-31-09, 10:08 PM
I am in love with Blu-ray right now. My player isn't the greatest (cause I got it cheap at Wal-Mart and it doesn't even have BD Live) but I still love Blu-ray. I love it so much that I want to marry it, have sex with it and adopt kids with it (cause Blu-ray is obviously male, like me).

Here's what I have on Blu-ray so far:

Beetlejuice ~ great picture

Tango & Cash ~ nice

Dogma ~ beautiful

Basic Instinct ~ mesmerizing

Friday the 13th part 2 ~ eh, but still beautiful in some parts, especially in the woods during the day

Pale Rider ~ good, but I don't care for this movie

Saw III ~ good, but too dark of a film

Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix ~ good

The Terminator & Terminator 2 ~ SPELLBINDING

Never Back Down ~ good

Jonas Brothers Movie ~ excellent

The Haunting in Conneticut ~ sometimes annoyingly snowy...

Rambo: First Blood part 2 ~ I will confess that this one isn't that drastically different from the regular DVD... boohoo

.... I know I have one more, but what is it....... omg, why did I forget.... oh yes! The best one on Blu-ray!

2001: A Space Odyssey!

jrs
07-31-09, 10:16 PM
I had a PS3....but don't anymore. Got rid of it cause I needed the $$$$. I just have a DVD player, my X-Box 360 and my external hard drives. I am satisfied with what I got. Am I sad that I don't have BR anymore? Actually no. DVD is perfect enough. The picture is clear and the sound is good enough. Sure BR is a better technology and whatever, but as long as I enjoy my movies I'm happy.

Sexy Celebrity
07-31-09, 11:10 PM
This attitude of anti-Blu-ray is pissing me off, people!

Blu-ray is incredible and I think a lot of flack about it now is just that it's expensive to get it. You have to have the right TV, you have to buy the expensive player, you have to buy the expensive discs....

The prices for this stuff just needs to COME DOWN!

And we need to DEMAND that it comes down!

NOW!

John McClane
07-31-09, 11:18 PM
I have way too many Blu-Ray discs at the moment. I was an early adopter, so I've slowly amassed my collection of 50 some Blu-Rays. I also have 25 HD-DVDs left, too.

I've totally stopped buying discs at the current moment, though. I just can't afford it right now.

Tacitus
08-01-09, 06:07 AM
Sexy - I wouldn't worry if your player doesn't do BD Live. From what I've seen it's worthless bloat.

EDIT - And on the price thing, I've picked up a few ex-rental discs recently which worked out at DVD money.

John McClane
08-01-09, 01:34 PM
If you don't listen to commentary tracks, than BD-Live is not a big deal. I do hate those silly trivia tracks they put on some Blu-Rays, though.

Tacitus
08-02-09, 05:29 AM
Do you mean that picture-in-picture stuff or the standard commentary track that every player can handle? I've not seen that many BD Live discs, granted, but what seems really really pointless is the actual online stuff where you have to log in.

John McClane
08-02-09, 01:29 PM
Do you mean that picture-in-picture stuff or the standard commentary track that every player can handle? I've not seen that many BD Live discs, granted, but what seems really really pointless is the actual online stuff where you have to log in.No, I mean the picture-in-picture stuff. Most discs I have seen just have a visual commentary track in addition to just audio.

Tacitus
08-02-09, 02:00 PM
Aye, that's what I thought. I've endured a couple of those p-in-p jobs and haven't got to the end of any of them - Weird because I'm normally a sucker for a commentary track.

The BD Live (or Profile 2 to be pedantic, I suppose) stuff on the Bourne Trilogy I bought recently is particularly anal. It turns the whole disc into a giant spreadsheet. :D

John McClane
08-02-09, 05:22 PM
The BD Live (or Profile 2 to be pedantic, I suppose) stuff on the Bourne Trilogy I bought recently is particularly anal. It turns the whole disc into a giant spreadsheet. :DI have the HD-DVD discs, but I've never used the interactive features on any of those films. My guess is they're pretty much the same.

Tacitus
08-02-09, 07:35 PM
Dunno, the BDs have 3 'timeline' kinda things with separate tracks which you can program to pop up whenever you wish. If you're a Bourne nut they'd be interesting but I just appreciate the films for what they are within the confines of their genre, nothing more.

Speaking of HD-DVD, I think it might be time for me to finally take the plunge because I doubt if things will get any cheaper. The 360 attachments are going for £25 sealed and most of the movies leave you change from a fiver, also new and sealed.

The standalone players seem to be holding more value than Betamax ever did, though. :p

John McClane
08-03-09, 12:57 AM
Dunno, the BDs have 3 'timeline' kinda things with separate tracks which you can program to pop up whenever you wish. If you're a Bourne nut they'd be interesting but I just appreciate the films for what they are within the confines of their genre, nothing more.

Speaking of HD-DVD, I think it might be time for me to finally take the plunge because I doubt if things will get any cheaper. The 360 attachments are going for £25 sealed and most of the movies leave you change from a fiver, also new and sealed.

The standalone players seem to be holding more value than Betamax ever did, though. :pYea, I have no more desire to sink money into either format, but HD-DVD is/was the s***. I'll try and grab the Matrix films cheap, though.

I have the 360 add-on and it is *definitely* worth the money. You can hook it up to your computer if you want, and DVDs look better on the 360 with it. Not only that...but it's region free!!! :D

TheUsualSuspect
08-03-09, 01:18 AM
My BluRay Discs:

Planet Earth
Band of Brothers
Saw II
Total Recall
JCVD
The Dark Knight
Stargate
The Godfather Trilogy
Shawshank Redemption
I, Robot

Tacitus
08-03-09, 06:38 AM
it's region free!!! :D

A-ha, good to know! I'd been wondering about that. :up:

John McClane
08-03-09, 12:49 PM
A-ha, good to know! I'd been wondering about that. :up:Yea, I lucked into a Region 2 copy of Sunshine back before it released in the states and the only player I had at the time that worked was the HD-DVD add-on. I was like...sweet. :yup:

jrs
08-03-09, 04:27 PM
The 360 itself plays region-free DVDs. You don't need an add-on to play them.

Pyro Tramp
08-03-09, 04:38 PM
The price thing isn't such a problem with blu-rays for new release, only a margin more than normal ones. I won't blind buy a film on blu-ray but if i've seen it i will. That said, not convinced on it, i kinda feel olbiged to buy on b-r but haven't noticed any difference anywhere. And always hesitant knowing that can only watch them on my PS3 and not on any of the other machines in the house

John McClane
08-03-09, 05:38 PM
The 360 itself plays region-free DVDs. You don't need an add-on to play them.Any player will play region-free DVDs. That's because they are region free. If you pop a R2 in an American 360 it won't play. Pop it into the add-on and it plays. That's because the player is region-free. I don't know what you're arguing with, but it's clearly not with anything I'm saying.

Pyro: I feel the same way, and it seems like all the ones worth having are 30 dollars or more. I just cannot afford to shell that kinda cash out. I do like it when a Blu-Ray copy is just 2 or 3 dollars more than the DVD counterpart, though. For example, TDK was about the same price when it released (give or take a couple bucks) regardless of the format.

Tacitus
08-03-09, 05:41 PM
The 360 itself plays region-free DVDs. You don't need an add-on to play them.

Untrue. Maybe hacked consoles are able to but mine certainly isn't.

Vidi:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b69/greenspagbol/PIC_0044.jpg

Which I took a couple of minutes ago where I attempted to play the nearest R1 DVD I had to hand. Incident at Loch Ness if you're bored enough to wanna know. ;)

EDIT - Mr McClane got there first when I was searching for my camera, and I was assuming he meant that the player was region free which it obviously isn't. :D

John McClane
08-03-09, 05:50 PM
OK, so now I'm getting rather confused here. I did a search on the add-on and some people are saying it's region-free, but locked to the region of your 360. And then some are saying it's not region-free. So I'm not sure what to tell you. I'll go try my copy of Sunshine again and double check to make sure recent updates haven't affected it.

Tacitus
08-03-09, 05:51 PM
It's not a biggie if it isn't John, but thanks for checking anyway.

John McClane
08-03-09, 05:53 PM
It's not a biggie if it isn't John, but thanks for checking anyway.I know for a fact HD-DVDs are region free because they never implemented a region code system on the discs or players, so at least you still have that bonus. :D

Tacitus
08-03-09, 05:56 PM
We're getting off topic here but Sunshine was actually the movie that prompted me to get a standalone Blu Ray player to compliment the import PS3 - So many discs are region-free that I'd begun buying them without checking up first and the Sunshine BD was the first one which wouldn't play on my PS3.

John McClane
08-03-09, 06:07 PM
We're getting off topic here but Sunshine was actually the movie that prompted me to get a standalone Blu Ray player to compliment the import PS3 - So many discs are region-free that I'd begun buying them without checking up first and the Sunshine BD was the first one which wouldn't play on my PS3.Ah, yea. They started that awhile ago, but like you said most of the earlier Blu-Ray films had no region coding on them.

And I just double checked my copy and turns out I was wrong. It's not R2, but it's region free and in PAL. So my guess is the HD-DVD is not region-free. Sorry if I got your hopes up. ;)

Tacitus
08-03-09, 06:28 PM
I would say 80-85% of BD movies are region free, it's just a few studios which are clinging on. I used to use this site to check, which might be handy if you're after something which is only released over here - Link (http://bluray.liesinc.net/)

Not that bothered about the Xbox add-on being locked, to be honest. I've got a region-free player in the bedroom (not great quality but it works) but my Samsung BD player is now in charge of most of my DVD watching and it's locked to R2. I bought a cake of blank DVD9s and spent a day backing my imported movies up so that the Sammy will play them. ;)

jrs
08-03-09, 10:24 PM
Untrue. Maybe hacked consoles are able to but mine certainly isn't.



Mine isnt hacked... I play my Region 0, 2 and 3 discs...along with my region 1 discs all in my 360 with no problem.

Tacitus
08-04-09, 04:47 AM
I'm afraid I just don't swallow it. You do know that if you copy DVDs you remove the region coding?

Sexy Celebrity
08-27-09, 10:25 PM
So, what are some Blu-ray movies that I should buy for the picture quality?

I picked up Donnie Darko today and I still haven't opened it and watched it, but I'm reading online that it's one of the worst Blu-rays out there. This sucks. I probably won't take it back as I want the film and don't have it on standard DVD, but dammit, I LIKE GETTING AMAZING BLU-RAY MOVIES!

Terminator 2 is amazing on Blu-ray.

Pedz
08-28-09, 06:21 AM
I have a fair few R1 HD DVD for the 360 HD-DVD player. I live in the UK, so R2 is what it should only play. I also have a fair few region unlocked Blu-rays that work on the PS3, like The Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles.

Tacitus
08-28-09, 06:45 AM
There isn't an R1 or R2 for HD DVD discs though - they're all region free. Blu Rays are a different matter but the majority aren't coded. :)

As far as picture quality for The Sexy One, two of the best looking modern discs that I own are No Country For Old Men and Zodiac. There's nothing flashy going on there, they just look absolutely superb. For a purely visual treat with an older movie, 2001 takes some beating.

Pedz
08-28-09, 06:50 AM
There isn't an R1 or R2 for HD DVD discs though - they're all region free. Blu Rays are a different matter but the majority aren't coded. :)


That's cool, didn't realise that it's just the discs that are uncoded. I'll have to get more. They are cheap as chips, but hard to find now, for a low price, brand new.

Tacitus
08-28-09, 07:55 AM
eBay is full of them - I got the Xbox HD DVD drive and 8 films for £23.99 there earlier in the week and have picked up a few bargains since.

Sexy Celebrity
08-28-09, 09:53 PM
As far as picture quality for The Sexy One, two of the best looking modern discs that I own are No Country For Old Men and Zodiac. There's nothing flashy going on there, they just look absolutely superb. For a purely visual treat with an older movie, 2001 takes some beating.

I actually have No Country for Old Men and yeah, it looks great, but it didn't wow me incredibly. Maybe I should watch it again.

Patton, for an old movie, was extremely wow-able. Some people hate how "waxy" the people appear, but I didn't mind. I thought it was gorgeous.

Zodiac is a movie that I love and I will definitely pick that up when I can. OOOOOOOH, those wonderful Jake Gyllenhaal Blu-ray discs!!!!

I have 2001 as well and it's great too.

Tacitus
08-29-09, 05:29 AM
We might be coming at this whole 'great' thing from different starting points, I dunno, but if I had to pick one disc which shows off HD without shouting about it, that disc would be Zodiac. It helps, of course, that it's an excellent movie anyway.

I generally check here (http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/reviews.html) before I replace one of my DVDs though, just in case the upgrade isn't really an upgrade. For instance, I got 12 Monkeys on HD DVD during the week and the transfer isn't noticeably better than my old DVD but it's got the commentary track my R2 disc lacked so it was worth the 4 whole pounds I paid for it.

intermissionpt1
10-17-09, 08:26 PM
I for one love Blu-Ray. Like you will get from most people, a simple mostly dialogue movie, is not worth the extra. Maybe a few dollars more, not double the price. But for the action fans like myself, you'd be crazy to prefer any other. I didn't want to get a Blu-Ray player at first. So I bought an upgrader for DVDs. Yea that worked well. But I finally got a Blu-Ray for The Dark Knight. Sound is incredible, mostly with explosions and in movie things rather then the soundtrack. My collection so far is...
The Dark Knight
The Knowing
Saw 5
Saw
Terminator 2 - Judgement Day
Disturbia
Batman Begins
Wanted
Pirates of the Caribbean 3
V for Vendetta

Tommy_J_A
11-16-09, 08:38 PM
Blu-Ray needs to up the ante on special features and stuff like that. Yes, there is a noticeable (not necessarily significant) increase in sound and picture quality (I think mainly in sound), but the new releases need to include extras out the wazoo for this format to really be worth it, IMO.