My opinion on HD

[FILMFREAK087]

Every 5 years, or so a new media is introduced and touted as "HD." I remember in '98 hearing friends talk about their dvds being HD, now ten years later, and what do ya know they're even more HD! How long can they keep calling something HD, until it isn't even percievable by human eyes?
Sorry, I smell techno-jargin bulls**t.
I know no one here agrees so, sorry.

[Yoda]

Well, it depends on what you mean. I don't remember people calling DVD's "HD," but even if they did the "high" in "high definition" is a relative term. It basically just means high compared to the current norm.

So, in that sense, I don't really agree that it's techno-jargon bulls**t. However, I do think the importance of this latest technology is being fairly overstated. I've seen HD broadcasts on HD televisions, and they're lovely to look at it, but not so much that I feel an intense need to upgrade. I think you can make a good case that the jump from VHS to DVD was more significant (and perhaps less costly sooner) than the jump from DVD to Hi-Def is.

I plan to wait a year or so, in all likelihood, before making any real inroads into upgrading.

[FILMFREAK087]

I also half agree, VHS to DVD was a big difference in quality.
But some in the media have been over-hyping the newer products.
I honestly don't see the big deal, I mean it is a little brighter, but is it really worth over $1,000?

[jrs]

Every 5 years, or so a new media is introduced and touted as "HD." I remember in '98 hearing friends talk about their dvds being HD, now ten years later, and what do ya know they're even more HD! .....

What you said there makes no sense. The birth of HD was on April 18, 2006 with the following titles released on HD-DVD:


The Last Samurai (Warner)
Million Dollar Baby (Warner)
The Phantom of the Opera (2004) (Warner)
Serenity (Universal)


How long can they keep calling something HD, until it isn't even percievable by human eyes?.


Watch a blu-ray. If it's not percievable by your own eyes, then I smell bullsh!t.

I myself have upgraded to HD-DVD/Blu-ray. Let me tell you (which I have said in many areas on MoFo) that it is well worth upgrading. If you care about quality, and outstanding sound and picture, going Hi-Def is the way to go.

If you just watch a HD broadcast on TV well, it's a start. You can't really judge it by just watching Heroes or The Office in HD.

Go ahead and watch a standard DVD - then go watch the blu-ray of the same feature film. You will undoubtedly see the big difference. If needed.

I could have a discussion on High-Def for hours on end.

[mark f]

My opinion is that a movie/TV Show/Sporting Event isn't enjoyable based on what you perceive OUTSIDE yourself, but on what you perceive INSIDE yourself. In that way, we can all work our way up to ultimate HD or, perhaps, even back away from it. :cool:

[TheUsualSuspect]

Watching LOST on HD is sweet and of course sporting events, but other then that HD TV is lacking.

The special features for HD I though were way better then what blu-Ray offered, but now Hd is dead, let's see if Blu-Ray will adopt their ideas.

[Tacitus]

My opinion is that a movie/TV Show/Sporting Event isn't enjoyable based on what you perceive OUTSIDE yourself, but on what you perceive INSIDE yourself. In that way, we can all work our way up to ultimate HD or, perhaps, even back away from it. :cool:

Mine's a double! :D

I see no problem in availing yourself of the most recent technology (and prices are dropping at a fair old whack) but once conversation turns to how well the film looks on your TV or how many extras the disc has my eyes glaze over.

I will never ever buy a film because it "looks great in HD". If the result of watching it makes you feel like you've been punched in the stomach/jumped a row of busses with Evil Knievel/been propositioned by Mira Sorvino AND is in 1080P then fine.

Otherwise it's icing without the cake.

[FILMFREAK087]

Hey Jrs, I have seen blu-ray, like I said it is brighter. I am not easily impressed, I am not saying I would NEVER upgrade, but I am not going to do it just because some tech-geek who spends his nights alone, with his blu-ray copy of Serenity says it's the second coming. :)

[Lennon]

just because some tech-geek who spends his nights alone, with his blu-ray copy of Serenity says it's the second coming. :)


You know, everytime someone insults a MoFo regular the other regulars jump in




guess who I'll defend

[FILMFREAK087]

It was just a JOKE!
Hence, the smiley face. :)
I was referring to a**holes on TV who pop their cork over every little gadget.
Nothin' personal...wow you guys can't take a f**kin' joke can ya?

[jrs]

Watching LOST on HD is sweet and of course sporting events, but other then that HD TV is lacking.

The special features for HD I though were way better then what blu-Ray offered, but now Hd is dead...

So you're saying the only positive things High Definition has to offer is a television show on ABC and sports. Hmmmm. Odd.

As for the special features on a High Definition disc.......an HD-DVD I have to agree had more features on alot of titles. On many titles, the extras are the same on both HD and Blu. Though, certain blu-titles rarely have any extras at all.

....let's see if Blu-Ray will adopt their ideas.

Oh they are! And already have - if you have PS3. With their upcoming BD Live 2.0 (a.k.a. Profile 2.0) upgrade this May, blu-ray will have features such as

Picture-in-Picture Commentary
Web-Enabled Content


Blu-ray plans on adding more and more features to their releases. And with the capabilities of BD Live, anything's possible!

Sony Playstation 3 have already upgraded their firmware with BD Live 2.0 so whoever has it is already set.

[Tacitus]

guess who I'll defend

Defend has nothing to do with it. ;)

[FILMFREAK087]

You do know that eventually all media will be digital?
So, all these disc formats are just stalling until then.

[jrs]

You do know that eventually all media will be digital?
So, all these disc formats are just stalling until then.

Oh digital has been around for a while. High Definition is at its peak. It will be quite a while before digital takes over. Besides, noone is stalling for digital.

[FILMFREAK087]

HD is just a term used to sell more discs.

1998-These discs have high definition

2006-No, sorry these are REALLY higher definition

2015-Okay, now THIS is higher-er definition!

2020-2999
Digital-HighestDefinition, stored on hard drives in your brain!

[jrs]

HD is just a term used to sell more discs.

1998-These discs have high definition

2006-No, sorry these are REALLY higher definition

2015-Okay, now THIS is higher-er definition!

2020-2999
Digital-HighestDefinition, stored on hard drives in your brain!

Assuming you've been to 2025, 2020-2999 or whenever. Which is nice, I am glad for you. But anyway, let's take a look shall we.....

If you are trying state DVDs are high definition in any sense of the word you are sorely mistaken. The term DVD or Digital Video Disc states that digital has been around for quite sometime buddy.

All I can tell from you is that you like to judge high definition before you fully experience its potential.

Besides I don't want anything stored on my brain. Watching films in cinemas and in the luxury of my home suits me just fine.

[FILMFREAK087]

That's my point, it wasn't HD, then they say blu-ray is.
What's next Higher-er definition?
At some point they will reach a ceiling, and I think they are pretty damn close.
BTW: it's Digital Versitile Disc, not Digital Video Disc.
I will convert you yet! :)

[jrs]

That's my point, it wasn't HD, then they say blu-ray is.
What's next Higher-er definition?
At some point they will reach a ceiling, and I think they are pretty damn close.
BTW: it's Digital Versitile Disc, not Digital Video Disc.
I will convert you yet! :)

That's my mistake. I always called it Digital Video Disc. Convert me to what? I'm at the point of simplicity and perfection.

[FILMFREAK087]

No, it's not...
Anyway, my point is how much further can they go with this?

[PimpDaShizzle V2.0]

2020-2999
Digital-HighestDefinition, stored on hard drives in your brain!
That would be awesome. :up:

[jrs]

2020-2999
Digital-HighestDefinition, stored on hard drives in your brain!

That would be awesome. :up:

Then god help you

[FILMFREAK087]

Think about this...
dvds were the be all-end all, now blu-ray is.
How many pixels and crispness until it doesn't even matter.
In 50 years we'll be up to our asses in dvd, blu-ray, red-ray, purple-ray, and even green-ray.
I am tryng to make the argument that digital simplifies this.

[PimpDaShizzle V2.0]

Then god help you
You take this crap way too seriously. HD, Blu-Ray, Cassette Tapes, DVDs, 8-Tracks - their either old news or about to be old news.

Quit trying to sound like an expert. Its a failed attempt.

[FILMFREAK087]

Well put, PIMP, exactly my thoughts.
They're bustin' their ass for tomorrow's trash.
I admit, I am always behind the trends, always the last to get the new hardware.

[jrs]

Think about this...
dvds were the be all-end all, now blu-ray is.
How many pixels and crispness until it doesn't even matter.
In 50 years we'll be up to our asses in dvd, blu-ray, red-ray, purple-ray, and even green-ray.
I am tryng to make the argument that digital simplifies this.

DVDs still exist. Blu-rays are soon to be the norm. In 50 years I'm sure everything will wind up on one single chip. People will be too lazy to read an actual book, turn on the television, go to the movies....anything.

Right now, in the present is when I live. And I'm happy. I don't think that far ahead.

[jrs]

Quit trying to sound like an expert. Its a failed attempt.

An expert? Please. I'm sorry if you aren't High-Def. No need to picking it out on people.

[Cygnus X-2112]

Take a movie like Sunshine. Watch it on DVD first then watch it on Blu Ray and tell me that you cant notice the difference.

[mark f]

I certainly notice the difference, at least when I'm in the store. Now, have you watched 2001 or Days of Heaven on Blu Ray?

[John McClane]

DVD was never touted as high definition. It was, however, marketed as the transfer from analog to digital. Hence the name Digital Video Disc.

As for HD, it's well worth the upgrade if you have the proper setup. And it's also foolish to think that any format/technology is the "be all to end all."

[Hattori_Hanzo]

its more of a marketing term than it is anything else. theyll try to put HD on anything these days. Even HD radio, it doesnt even stand for high-def, its hybrid digital.

its kind of how premium things are known to go GOLD. Now its PLATINUM.

overall i say the strategy works though

[FILMFREAK087]

You echo my point exactly, it's a constantly changing standard, which is used to sell more s**t.