View Full Version : Just wow, What is this world coming too
Hell is too good for this lady,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bPxUmzd8ik
In case you can't see it, this girl wrote an essay for Hannah Montana tickets that started "My Daddy died this year in Iraq, one problem, he didn't.... now if that's not bad enough the mother of the child was quoted as saying "We never said anything like this was a true story. Never, it's just an essay. We do essays all the time. Ya know my daughter does essays at school all the time."
Just the length people will go to these days! As one of my friends dad is currently overseas (God help him,) I just can't imagine, sheesh
Can you put a link to this because I would like to see it?
Ðèstîñy
01-01-08, 12:38 PM
Here you go. I still don't know why some of the You-Tube videos are missing the www in their links . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bPxUmzd8ik
Thank you Destiny, I kept trying to repost that same video, but it wasn't working for me. + rep given
meatwadsprite
01-01-08, 03:32 PM
lol
That is pretty messed up! Geesh! Daddy must me proud.
Powdered Water
01-02-08, 04:48 PM
Is any one in America really surprised by this?
That is pretty messed up! Geesh! Daddy must me proud.
Yeah he was probably saying " So you said I died... for Hannah Montana tickets... :eek:
Lennon, when posting your tube vids, just make sure you paste the url of the video into the YouTube tags, and not the embed code, which will just leave you a white box. Hmmm, I cracked your post open, and it looks like you had the url in place, but the www had dropped. I fixed your post.
Meanwhile, back on topic: LAME!
it's a sad state of affairs when people have to lie about a loved one's death in order to secure concert tickets...
chet seven
01-02-08, 06:07 PM
hahaha
is she really that good?
i mean achy breaky heart was and probably still is the greatest song in the world written by man, so i'm not surprised:rolleyes:
Caitlyn
01-02-08, 07:32 PM
I feel sorry for the little girl… I mean, she's only six and I'm sure didn't even understand what an essay even was… much less the ramifications on writing one full of lies… Her mother needs a stiff kick in her arse…
PimpDaShizzle V2.0
01-02-08, 07:59 PM
The mother was saying she thought the essay could be fake.... really.... so, when given the chance to write a "fake essay" you choose to write about your dad dieing in a war, for Hannah Montana tickets.... holy crap. Seriously. Have you seen this lady? I'm not saying I'd walk around judging people, but seeing her and knowing what she did and said, I'm not at all surprised.
http://a.abcnews.com/images/GMA/ap_hannah2_071231_ms.jpg
Stephany
01-04-08, 05:34 AM
Thats awful
I love Miley, but danngg
At first, I had the same response of indignation at the mother for letting her child do the essay. Then I decided to play devil's advocate (something I think more people in general should do before passing complete and offhand judgment on anything) and it hit me... all I have heard is that there was an essay writing contest and that the subject was about your father dying in Iraq. Did the contest specifically say that the father of the child writing the essay actually did have to die in Iraq, or could it have been easily confused as to the child writing what they would feel if that happened to them... perhaps as a way to help children understand more what its like to have a parent go off to war and not come back.
Also, I have not read the essay in question, so I don't know in what frame of mind it was written. Was it done with the child flat out saying... this is who my father was, he was in the military, he went to war in Iraq and killed there? Or was it just written like it was a story?
Just a little food for thought before passing judgment, from an obviously not well informed reader.
Seriously. Have you seen this lady? I'm not saying I'd walk around judging people, but seeing her and knowing what she did and said, I'm not at all surprised.
http://a.abcnews.com/images/GMA/ap_hannah2_071231_ms.jpg
...yet that's exactly what you are doing... passing judgment on someone, and admitting that in at least part, you are doing so because you don't like the way she looks...
PowderedWaterMama
01-04-08, 02:35 PM
No need to judge on looks, but her actions are none too pretty.
From the Dallas Morning News:
Club Libby Lu provided this description of its "Hannah Montana Rock Your Holidays Essay Contest":
"We want to hear how you're going to ROCK someone else's holiday. Maybe it's Mom, your best friend, or maybe it's someone you don’t even know! It's easy: just write (no more than 5 sentences) and send it to us. Maybe you are donating a coat (sorry sis) or maybe you are making breakfast in bed for your Mom (maybe next year Dad!); whatever it is tell us all about it."
The essay read: “My daddy died this year in Iraq. I am going to give mommy the Angel pendant that daddy put on mommy when she was having me. I had it in my jewelry box since that day. I love my mommy."
“I helped my daughter write an essay that was not true. It was not my intention to mislead.” she said. “I wanted to help my daughter realize her dream of seeing Hannah Montana."
Sad to say, this kind of behavior is not even all that hard to believe anymore. Oh what a world, what a world!
Well, I for one definitely take a person's look and demeanor into account when judging them. And I do judge pretty much everyone I meet. Everyone does, it's impossible to be alive and not do it. Life is full on CONSTANT judgments. You take in information with your senses and make judgments on how to react. We aren't instinct dominated beings, so judgment is really what sets us apart, with imagination, from the beasts, IMO. When I meet a new person, it's time to start judging them. Do I want to get to know them better? Are they someone I want to spend time with. A lot? A little? Will they try to steal my magic cape?
A person's personal presentation is EXTREMELY important to me when judging whether or not I want them in my life or not. If they are slovenly and disheveled, they clearly have little or no self respect, and people with no self respect tend to have very little respect for others. If they are an idiot, I definitely don't want to be around them.
I think I just wanted to illustrate the difference between judgment and discrimination... I try not to discriminate against anyone, but I definitely judge people all the time, because it's human nature.
Here:
http://images.ibsys.com/2002/0925/1686365.jpg
I'll tell ya right now, I can tell, just by looking at this guy, that he is probably not the most upstanding person, and I most likely don't want to interact with them, ever. Am I judging him? Damn right. If I said, "Hmm, I don't want to judge this guy, I think I will invite him over for tea, and he may just turn out to be a studious chum." Frack that. The guy is clearly a loser and a crack head, and I can tell, just by looking at him.
I guess what I want to know is...when figuring out if a person is good or bad, why should I ignore one of my most perceptive senses?
Caitlyn
01-04-08, 03:10 PM
The more I look at the pictures of that mother, the more I am convinced I've seen her before … and considering my line of work, that is probably not a good thing …
Anyway, as far as passing judgment on the way she looks… she looks pretty average to me… and I'm more inclined to judge her by her actions… and going by what I've read about the place, if my sister ever takes my niece into somewhere like Club Libby Lu in the first place, I'll kick her arse…
And yes, I am playing Devil's Advocate... ;)
Partimus
01-04-08, 03:26 PM
And yes, I am playing Devil's Advocate... ;)
No, you are playing self righteous elitist, an important distinction.
Well, I for one definitely take a person's look and demeanor into account when judging them. And I do judge pretty much everyone I meet. Everyone does, it's impossible to be alive and not do it. Life is full on CONSTANT judgments. You take in information with your senses and make judgments on how to react. We aren't instinct dominated beings, so judgment is really what sets us apart, with imagination, from the beasts, IMO. When I meet a new person, it's time to start judging them. Do I want to get to know them better? Are they someone I want to spend time with. A lot? A little? Will they try to steal my magic cape?
A person's personal presentation is EXTREMELY important to me when judging whether or not I want them in my life or not. If they are slovenly and disheveled, they clearly have little or no self respect, and people with no self respect tend to have very little respect for others. If they are an idiot, I definitely don't want to be around them.
I think I just wanted to illustrate the difference between judgment and discrimination... I try not to discriminate against anyone, but I definitely judge people all the time, because it's human nature.
Here:
http://images.ibsys.com/2002/0925/1686365.jpg
I'll tell ya right now, I can tell, just by looking at this guy, that he is probably not the most upstanding person, and I most likely don't want to interact with them, ever. Am I judging him? Damn right. If I said, "Hmm, I don't want to judge this guy, I think I will invite him over for tea, and he may just turn out to be a studious chum." Frack that. The guy is clearly a loser and a crack head, and I can tell, just by looking at him.
I guess what I want to know is...when figuring out if a person is good or bad, why should I ignore one of my most perceptive senses?
So you basically take a comment made about not judging people based on looks, and purposefully go to an extreme with the picture you chose to try to make your point, and show that you are apparently fairly shallow in how you choose your relations, that if they don't immediately seem up to your par, they must not be a good person, and you don't want anything to do with them. Without context, how would anyone know that the person in that picture is not actually a very successful person that you, in your shallow way, WOULD associate with, but is possibly just dressed up for some sort of party.
Yes, I am purposefully being a jerk here, but when it comes to people making snap judgments about others without more than a cursory glance, I will act that way. That sort of attitude is one of the things wrong with our society... if you don't look like "this", then you must not be worthwhile....
No need to judge on looks, but her actions are none too pretty.
From the Dallas Morning News:
Club Libby Lu provided this description of its "Hannah Montana Rock Your Holidays Essay Contest":
"We want to hear how you're going to ROCK someone else's holiday. Maybe it's Mom, your best friend, or maybe it's someone you don’t even know! It's easy: just write (no more than 5 sentences) and send it to us. Maybe you are donating a coat (sorry sis) or maybe you are making breakfast in bed for your Mom (maybe next year Dad!); whatever it is tell us all about it."
The essay read: “My daddy died this year in Iraq. I am going to give mommy the Angel pendant that daddy put on mommy when she was having me. I had it in my jewelry box since that day. I love my mommy."
“I helped my daughter write an essay that was not true. It was not my intention to mislead.” she said. “I wanted to help my daughter realize her dream of seeing Hannah Montana."
Sad to say, this kind of behavior is not even all that hard to believe anymore. Oh what a world, what a world!
With that info about the contest, and the essay, I would have to agree with not letting them win. It appears to have been specifically written to play on the emotions of those running the contest using false statements... OK, the mother just wanted to get her kid the tickets, and was willing to do, or tell her kid to say, anything in order to do it... dumb... just plain dumb...
PimpDaShizzle V2.0
01-04-08, 05:11 PM
...yet that's exactly what you are doing... passing judgment on someone, and admitting that in at least part, you are doing so because you don't like the way she looks...
Exactly. I have no problem admitting that if someone looks suspicious, I don't want them around me. I wouldn't even let that lady babysit my dogs.
'Sedai'....So you basically take a comment made about not judging people based on looks, and purposefully go to an extreme with the picture you chose to try to make your point, and show that you are apparently fairly shallow in how you choose your relations, that if they don't immediately seem up to your par, they must not be a good person, and you don't want anything to do with them. Without context, how would anyone know that the person in that picture is not actually a very successful person that you, in your shallow way, WOULD associate with, but is possibly just dressed up for some sort of party.
You're drawing conclusions and correlations between so many things that weren't even suggested, it's ridiculous.
Yes, I am purposefully being a jerk here, but when it comes to people making snap judgments about others without more than a cursory glance, I will act that way. That sort of attitude is one of the things wrong with our society... if you don't look like "this", then you must not be worthwhile....
Last time I checked I could like and dislike anyone that I wanted. You're telling me I have to be nice to people, "just because." Eff' that. I'm not an ignorant person, I'm not a racists, I'm not a homophobe, etc., etc., but I will use my judgment to analyze individuals. No one will take that away from me. I can judge whoever I want, and anyone can judge me. People don't like me, that's fine. I don't like some people, that's fine too. I'm tired of people who want to feel good so they go on some sort of self righteous rant and come down on people with this sort of overly dramatic bullsh_t. There's way too many people in the world for me to have to get to know everybody on a personal level, because if I did, I'm sure everyone would have an excuse for what they do and for who they are.
The mom that encouraged her daughter to write the essay for the Hannah Montana tickets, I'm sure she has a story. MAYBE, she lost her job and made a promise to her daughter that she could get her Hannah Montana tickets and she had no other way of getting money because her house burnt down. That would be sad, but the fact is, she lied, and based on the fact that I can see her picture and I KNOW what she did, I'm not surprised.
You don't have to like what I say.
I will guarantee you that I don't look like someone you may want to associate with, my personal photo notwithstanding, but maybe you're correct since I'm a "registered loser" and an "underachieving bum". :cool:
Freedom of speech and thought rule in our pretty fine countries, but sometimes the freedom (or willpower) to not voice your thoughts is what makes some people even finer. [Don't look at me (Cripes!); I wouldn't know.]
P.S. I'm not the Devil's Advocate; I'm the Devil. ;)
P.P.S. Something or other about lovin' people here...
PimpDaShizzle V2.0
01-05-08, 01:09 AM
I will guarantee you that I don't look like someone you may want to associate with, my personal photo notwithstanding, but maybe you're correct since I'm a "registered loser" and an "underachieving bum". :cool:
Freedom of speech and thought rule in our pretty fine countries, but sometimes the freedom (or willpower) to not voice your thoughts is what makes some people even finer. [Don't look at me (Cripes!); I wouldn't know.]
P.S. I'm not the Devil's Advocate; I'm the Devil. ;)
P.P.S. Something or other about lovin' people here...
I understand, and I don't use simple looks to judge people. Obtaining a look and nothing else is nearly impossible. When I say "looks" I'm talking about the combination of demeanor, approach, presentation, body language, appearance, etc., etc.,. And again, from that ladies picture, I'm not surprised.
I'd be a fool to judge someone just by looking at them. I don't feel that its necessary to go through a list of my friends who I'd consider abnormal or someone I wouldn't normally associate myself with. During bootcamp, when all our individual styles were taken away and we were left with nothing but our personalities, I quickly learned that appearances usually meant nothing. BUT, that doesn't mean you can't judge a book by its cover and be correct. Sometimes my initial judgments are wrong and I move past them and sometimes they're exactly what I expected.
well i have to agree with sedai..i always say that you can't judge a book by it's cover and try giving some people a chance, but there are just some people that you keep away from..
as for the woman with the letter...if you are going to go to any lengths, including lying to get your kid a concert ticket, then you should be prepared to get caught..this isn't a fictional story contest...and it doesn't matter what the parent looks like...there is no reason for lying about that kind of thing..i do feel sorry for the kid though, as caity said...you shouldn't put the actions of a parent onto a child, if you know what i mean..they are two separate people and should be treated as such...
just my 2 cents worth
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