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Has anyone heard of the rumours that neil amrstrong and other apollo astronauts witnessed ufo's and actually found alien bases on the moon?
Which is why we havent attempted to build a base there or been to the moon since.
according to a former nasa employee otto binder, radio hams with their own radio facilities picked up the conversations between apollo and nasa.
nasa: whats there? mission control calling apollo 11.......
apollo: These babies are huge! U wouldnt believe it. I'm telling u there are other spacecraft out there watching us on the far side of the moon.
There are also claims that the moon pictures we see have been airbrushed to remove images of alien buildings and traces of their civillisation. I have seen these airbrushed images. very fascinating.
The other ufo case i am interested now is the kenneth arnold sighting. What u guys think? ufos, military craft or pelicans?
I don't really believe in any of these sorts of conspiracy theories. The secrets are too massive, and far too many people are usually involved for them to be plausible, especially over several decades.
I think the reason we haven't built a base on the money is that a) it would be insanely expensive, and b) it would not have any immediate benefits, at least not at the moment.
I don't know if aliens exist, but if there's one thing I know about mankind it's that we're really, really bad at keeping secrets. On that basis alone, I feel pretty comfortable dismissing the idea that there's been any such coverup. That's just my opinion, though.
ur right. The secret is too massive to keep which is why so many ex nasa employees and scientists have spoken out. Few people believe them thats all.
Sci-Fi-Guy
07-31-07, 02:26 PM
I've heard Nasa astronauts had said they thought they were being watched while they were there and saw lights following their rocket as they travelled in space.
It's usually been debunked as pieces of their own rocket and space debris catching the sunlight at the right angle.
I never heard of a moon-city though.
I just don't see an alien base being there.
(still, it'd be damn cool if it were so)
On Mars, however, I would think there'd be something the government would want to hide.
Personally I DO believe in life elsewhere (I've seen enough UFOs as a kid in my hometown to make me believe) and I would assume anytime we left Earth they were watching us.
I also get the feeling they wouldn't want us out there quite yet and rightly so.
We need to be united here on Earth before we ever venture off to other worlds. Otherwise we'll just be starting the same problems out there with anyone or anything we meet.
Unfortunately the general public will never know anything about the truth to what's really out there until we're ready to accept it.
And who knows how long that could take...
John McClane
07-31-07, 02:50 PM
I think the reason we haven't built a base on the money is that a) it would be insanely expensive, and b) it would not have any immediate benefits, at least not at the moment.Right you are. So expensive, in fact, they scrapped just about every advanced research project to create a new shuttle and get us to the moon to build a base. Bush was the one to sign that, by the way. About the only benefit would be research and a staging area for a manned mission to Mars. Which we're planning to do but, since we scrapped so many research projects it might take twice as long.
I don't know if aliens exist, but if there's one thing I know about mankind it's that we're really, really bad at keeping secrets. On that basis alone, I feel pretty comfortable dismissing the idea that there's been any such coverup. That's just my opinion, though.I can't look up at the sky and think that aliens don't exist, it just seems impossible. However, I agree that we haven't found anything. But like I said, my logic tells me aliens have to exist.
ur right. The secret is too massive to keep which is why so many ex nasa employees and scientists have spoken out. Few people believe them thats all.
I've heard of one or two, but given that NASA has surely had thousands of employees over the years, I wouldn't call that (or even a couple dozen) "so many."
Regardless, people don't believe them because they never have any actual, physical evidence, and the ones I can recall don't even always say that aliens exist, but rather, just that think they witnessed something suspicious or unexplainable. Given how tentative even these outlier claims are, and how space is full of unexplainable things already, and I can understand why so few people believe them.
Sexy Celebrity
07-31-07, 03:16 PM
according to a former nasa employee otto binder, radio hams with their own radio facilities picked up the conversations between apollo and nasa.
According to Wikipedia, Otto Binder was a science fiction writer who mostly worked on comic books. Where are the facts that he worked for NASA - and - isn't it possible that he concocted this whole scenario of aliens on the moon?
There are also claims that the moon pictures we see have been airbrushed to remove images of alien buildings and traces of their civillisation. I have seen these airbrushed images. very fascinating.
http://search.nasa.gov/images/content/62296main2_neil_on_moon_330.jpg
That's a hell of an airbrush job! What does an alien building look like? Something like this?:
http://www.mts.net/~gisby/kizo/kzgallery/boobhaus.gif
The other ufo case i am interested now is the kenneth arnold sighting. What u guys think? ufos, military craft or pelicans?
http://www.gary-paul.com/artwork/photography/taco1.jpg
Taco truck.
I can't look up at the sky and think that aliens don't exist, it just seems impossible. However, I agree that we haven't found anything. But like I said, my logic tells me aliens have to exist.
Of course. I admit i cannot say for sure there are but cannot say for sure there arent.
Earth is just another planet inhabited by intelligent life forms so why cant other planets be the same? When the aliens see our apollo space ships and satellites, they might think we are the aliens.
They then get back to their planet and conduct a cover up just as we do. Its as simple as that isnt it?
I've heard of one or two, but given that NASA has surely had thousands of employees over the years, I wouldn't call that (or even a couple dozen) "so many."
Regardless, people don't believe them because they never have any actual, physical evidence, and the ones I can recall don't even always say that aliens exist, but rather, just that think they witnessed something suspicious or unexplainable. Given how tentative even these outlier claims are, and how space is full of unexplainable things already, and I can understand why so few people believe them.
i forgot the name of the scientist but there is one who actually does say he saw alien craft in area 51. He said when he first saw the disc, he laughed cos he thought we were the ones responsible for all the ufo sightings.
but when he entered the craft, he realised that the seats and space were far too small for human beings.
According to Wikipedia, Otto Binder was a science fiction writer who mostly worked on comic books. Where are the facts that he worked for NASA - and - isn't it possible that he concocted this whole scenario of aliens on the moon?
http://search.nasa.gov/images/content/62296main2_neil_on_moon_330.jpg
That's a hell of an airbrush job! What does an alien building look like? Something like this?:
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No.
i dont know how to get photos onto pc but they are very fascinating.
Also, the pictures of the moon that we see that havent been airbrushed seemingly show it is just a huge rock.
But various ufologists and scientists have zoomed in on them and what we see is a birds eye view of buildings and cities, just as a birds eye view of new york, chicago, hong kong etc would look.
If these are real and actually does show alien structures, then i guess nasa and the u.s governemtn didnt expect ufologists to be so perceptive huh? :goof:
Sexy Celebrity
08-02-07, 04:23 PM
but when he entered the craft, he realised that the seats and space were far too small for human beings.
http://ryansrant.gettinlater.com/nmtt/images/vern2.jpg
Even too small for this guy?
i dont know how to get photos onto pc
Scanner.
But various ufologists and scientists have zoomed in on them and what we see is a birds eye view of buildings and cities, just as a birds eye view of new york, chicago, hong kong etc would look.
Next time, show us these pictures.
Pyro Tramp
08-02-07, 09:17 PM
I want to believe.
Sci-Fi-Guy
08-04-07, 08:56 AM
What's the name of this book you're seeing these pictures in?
Or is it a newspaper article?
I tried googling it but couldnt find anything that wasn't sci-fi.
This one looked pretty damn cool though, LOL.
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/9379/so01ul4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
spudracer
08-04-07, 10:09 AM
Which is why we havent attempted to build a base there or been to the moon since.
Alright, before this gets going in a completely crazy direction and it's thrown into ludicrous speed, let me add a few things.
NASA scrubbed any future trips to the moon with the completion of Apollo 17. Once Apollo 11 landed on the moon, America had seen just about enough of televised space missions, which is why, to this day, they still don't aire them.
There's always going to be conspiracies that there's an Area 51, or that the landing on the moon never actually took place and that the televised landing was done in a studio in Hollywood.
I'm sure we could go one all day with these thoughts, but we wouldn't really get anywhere.
What's the name of this book you're seeing these pictures in?
Or is it a newspaper article?
I tried googling it but couldnt find anything that wasn't sci-fi.
This one looked pretty damn cool though, LOL.
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/9379/so01ul4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
cool picture.
U can go to "youtube" and just type in alien bases on moon etc and lots will come up.
u can find lots on google and yahoo search. What are u typing in?
search up conspiracies, alien bases on moon, ufos on moon etc.
I'm sure lots will pop up.
will try and show u pics myself once i have enough time.
meanwhile, go to youtube. plenty there. :)
SamsoniteDelilah
08-04-07, 05:21 PM
cool picture.
U can go to "youtube" and just type in alien bases on moon etc and lots will come up.
u can find lots on google and yahoo search. What are u typing in?
search up conspiracies, alien bases on moon, ufos on moon etc.
I'm sure lots will pop up.
will try and show u pics myself once i have enough time.
meanwhile, go to youtube. plenty there. :)
I've seen people do things on youtube that I know humans just do NOT do in real life. So I'm going to be pretty skeptical about pictures on there.
It's possible that they could airbrush out civilizations in photos of the moon, but not out of every telescope in the world. If there was a city up there, we'd have seen it by now.
John McClane
08-04-07, 10:36 PM
NASA scrubbed any future trips to the moon with the completion of Apollo 17. Once Apollo 11 landed on the moon, America had seen just about enough of televised space missions, which is why, to this day, they still don't aire them.Don't air what, outdated Apollo missions or current day endeavours?
Sci-Fi-Guy
08-05-07, 05:35 AM
There's always going to be conspiracies that there's an Area 51, or that the landing on the moon never actually took place and that the televised landing was done in a studio in Hollywood.
I for one look forward to the day when we finally DO land on the moon.
Yeah, yeah...
The conspiracy people do kinda make sense to me in some ways...
I like to HOPE that we did land there but with JFK guaranteeing that it most definately WILL happen in THAT decade of the arms race I do have my doubts especially since no other government has been there to prove it.
Damn conspiracy theorists got to me long ago.
(Escape still bugs me to this day about my doubts on this)
BRING ME HOME SOME O THAT MOON CHEESE ALREADY AND I'LL BELIEVE YOU!!
John McClane
08-05-07, 12:57 PM
I for one look forward to the day when we finally DO land on the moon.We did.
Has anyone heard of the rumours that neil amrstrong and other apollo astronauts witnessed ufo's and actually found alien bases on the moon?
I was watching Larry King just last night. It was replayed from a couple weeks before and Buzz Aldrin said they thought they saw a UFO till they found out it was a piece of the flaps belonging to their craft after it separated from their lunor module.
Anyways yeah, I do believe their are alien beings out there flying around in our atmosphere. Actually, just this year one was spotted in the Chicago airport seen by many techs on the ground drifting silently by. Though with all the digi cams around, especially in airports, I have no clue why nothing was taken.
Then there is that english dude named Garry Mckinnon who back in 2002 hacked into some US department of defense comptuter system finding picture evidence of UFOs caught by satellites I believe, that were airbrushed out. The States want to put him on trial there to make an example of him for hacking into their system.
Here's a YouTube interview with him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4PkNPCEnJM
Sci-Fi-Guy
08-11-07, 12:29 AM
Well, this certainly looks too good to be real but I can't stop watching it.
From Haiti it was shot on the evening of august 6th 2007...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up5jmbSjWkw
If it's fake it's definately the best one I've ever seen.
:cool:
I find myself saying 'obvious fake' just because it looks sooooooooo damn juicy good. :licklips:
Well, this certainly looks too good to be real but I can't stop watching it.
From Haiti it was shot on the evening of august 6th 2007...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up5jmbSjWkw
If it's fake it's definately the best one I've ever seen.
:cool:
very impressive. I like it.
I find myself saying 'obvious fake' just because it looks sooooooooo damn juicy good. :licklips:
But if it was blurred or fuzzy like others then u wouldnt beleive it.
Isnt this the best proof that ufos do exist?
Ufo captured on camera. BANG. undeniable. Dont know what more u can ask for.
I myself believe in ufos and believe that governments have been covering it up for years although i do acknowledge there are tons of hoaxes.
Regarding this footage....1) it was a very very good fake. :cool: 2) It was highly advanced aircraft of the u.s air force. 3) It was alien technology.
Those are the only three possibilties.
The aurora project back in the early nineties was responsible for a wave of ufo sightings. They called these the black triangles. As it turned out, it was top secret u.s military planes.
There are claims that a number of technologies that we know of today were actually taken from the ufo which crashed in roswell in 1947.
After reverse engineering the alien craft, micro chips and lasers
were among those that were adapted to earth made technology.
The B2 stealth bomber of the u.s military was supposedly based on the design of the roswell ufo. Many witnesses say that the ufo wasnt disc shaped at all and that it was actually sting ray shaped, much resembling the B2.
After the debris was recovered, they were photographed and dismissed as a "weather balloon". But this was just a cover up and NOT the actual stuff that was found.
The real wreckage was taken to wright patterson air force base.
Parts of it was also taken to washington and shown to president truman. So one has to ask, if it was only a weather balloon, why all the fuss?
:confused:
The best explanation for the cover up is that the debris was part of an experiment by the military named "project mogul". Mogul was a number of balloons attached with equipment that was to detect signs of nuclear tests by the soviets.
This project was highly classified at the time whcih explains why the level of security was so high. But...even this explanation has flaws.
As pointed out by the former scientists themselves, there was no equipment in the actual balloon that would require such secrecy once it had been launched.
Only the purpose of the experiment was sensitive.
The balloon and equipment itself was expendable.
John McClane
08-11-07, 12:59 PM
UFOs do exist, because all that stands for is Unidentifiable Flying Object. Now alien spacecraft, that one I'm skeptical about.
Sci-Fi-Guy
08-11-07, 01:45 PM
That first clip is still the most watched vid on YouTube.
I've seen alot about it on the net but so far nothing on any major news networks which makes me doubt its authenticity.
I'd still like to believe it though.
Here's a related clip taken in Haiti's neighbor, the Dominican Republic on the same day.
The last UFO seen is the same one as in the first clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mos9-LReoWQ&feature=PlayList&p=A972D2CC8575BCAB&index=12
One thing alot of people are saying that the detail in the CGI would be so costly it would have to be a promotional stunt by a major Hollywood studio for a big blockbuster.
Viral marketing for Cloverfield has been mentioned quite a few times in relation to this.
But if it was blurred or fuzzy like others then u wouldn't believe it.
Isn't this the best proof that UFOs do exist?
UFO captured on camera. BANG. undeniable. Don't know what more u can ask for.
Not necessarily. If it's sharp as this video with hundreds of different witnesses, then I'd believe it. But for a video as clear as this to come out and you hear nothing about it except on the internet where I have seen excellent fakes before, I give it allot of doubt to being an actual alien spacecraft.
I myself believe in UFOs and believe that governments have been covering it up for years although i do acknowledge there are tons of hoaxes.
Yeah I'm with you there. I think little alien dudes have been here before and continue to visit and fully agree that the technological boom that has continued from the past 50 years or so may have something to do with the Roswell incident. Now I do have doubts now and then but for the most part maybe I just want to believe it, I dunno.
That video footage taken back in the 60's of the Russian army surrounding a crash disc was pretty amazing I thought right down to the last detail if in fact it was fake. Roger Moore did a documentary on it along with other UFO encounters with the MIGs etc. Wasn't a bad documentary except for the sound being muzzled allot. Cheap disc's.
Then you have them playing around with Russian MIGs caught on their radars and such. There have been a few of those such as here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNSEmzuw3SU).
The best explanation for the cover up is that the debris was part of an experiment by the military named "project mogul". Mogul was a number of balloons attached with equipment that was to detect signs of nuclear tests by the soviets.
Yeah, I believe they blamed the bodies to be those test dummies which apparently they didn't have in tests till after the 40's which threw that theory out the window. You also don't have people on their death bed saying it was all lies either which was the case for a couple of these witnesses who at first went with the weather balloon story.
Here's a related clip taken in Haiti's neighbor, the Dominican Republic on the same day.
The last UFO seen is the same one as in the first clip.
Yeah that could still be by the same group who put that first one up. Not enough facts so I'll remain skeptical here. Interesting footage though.
The weather balloon story or any balloon, doesnt stand up to scrutiny cos you have to ask yourself, would one not recognise a piece of a weather balloon?
The debris at roswell had to be so strange and unfamiliar for jesse marcel( an officer at roswell air force base) to bring home to let his family see.
The material which was shown in the press conference photos to prove it was a just a weather balloon was so flimsy and uninteresting i would not have given it a second thought let alone someone working for the u.s military.
So claims that the real debris was switched for the ones shown in the photos has to be true.
The weather balloon story or any balloon, doesn't stand up to scrutiny cos you have to ask yourself, would one not recognize a piece of a weather balloon?
The debris at Roswell had to be so strange and unfamiliar for Jesse Marcel( an officer at Roswell air force base) to bring home to let his family see.
The material which was shown in the press conference photos to prove it was a just a weather balloon was so flimsy and uninteresting i would not have given it a second thought let alone someone working for the u.s military.
So claims that the real debris was switched for the ones shown in the photos has to be true.
Yeah, Jesse Marcel on his deathbed even said it wasn't a weather balloon. It can still be some kind of 'other' top secret air flying machine they were covering up at the time but then there is the debris that the little kid who still testifies to this day in his 70's, was indestructible and if this was any sort of 'earth' made material, it surely should have made it's appearance in machinery today I would think.
I just think it was allot easier to cover things up back in the 40's than it would be today and they seemed to have done a good job on it till that late 70's when the story arose again.
"Project mogul" was deemed highly classified which i dont really believe.:skeptical: Apparently it was so classified that it required the army to seal off the debris area, threaten witnesses not to talk and hand over any pieces of the wreckage and then send some of it to washington for truman to see.
Mogul was simply a number of balloons that were launched to detect signs of nuclear tests by the soviets. Now, this doesnt sound that much of a big deal does it?
ok, the soviets find out that u.s knows about their nuclear tests, were they really going to start a war over that?:confused:
Things like the aurora black projects and stealth bombers i can understand that they would keep secret. Not flippin kitchen foil from the local shop.
Mogul was simply a number of balloons that were launched to detect signs of nuclear tests by the soviets. Now, this doesn't sound that much of a big deal does it?
Any story that says that they were balloons, I don't believe. To me those are crap stories. First hand testimonies easily debunk that.
Things like the aurora black projects and stealth bombers i can understand that they would keep secret. Not flippin kitchen foil from the local shop.
Yes and notice 'those' top secret projects were made public around 20 years later. This one was only attempted to be made public due to the ongoing pressure of the questions surrounding the incident and that was 30 years later with a fake picture. Then 15 years after that they pretend it was another weatherballoon with crash test dummies. Why all the lies and deceit over some stupid project that would mean nothing to us now. Makes no sense.
Any story that says that they were balloons, I don't believe. To me those are crap stories. First hand testimonies easily debunk that.
neither do i.
Yes and notice 'those' top secret projects were made public around 20 years later. This one was only attempted to be made public due to the ongoing pressure of the questions surrounding the incident and that was 30 years later with a fake picture. Then 15 years after that they pretend it was another weatherballoon with crash test dummies. Why all the lies and deceit over some stupid project that would mean nothing to us now. Makes no sense.
Exactly. :up:
Balloons with electrical equipment more top secret than the stealth bombers? No way. :suspicious: :nope:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up5jmbSjWkw
Ok this is the program many feel created that UFO video above that has gotten over a million hits so far.
Anyways, it's called Vue 6 infinite and the graphics are friggin' amazing as you can see here (http://e-onsoftware.com/products/vue/vue_6_infinite/v6i_video_layout.php)
I want, I want. :yup:
Sci-Fi-Guy
08-14-07, 11:03 AM
Any story that says that they were balloons, I don't believe. To me those are crap stories. First hand testimonies easily debunk that.
Yes and notice 'those' top secret projects were made public around 20 years later. This one was only attempted to be made public due to the ongoing pressure of the questions surrounding the incident and that was 30 years later with a fake picture. Then 15 years after that they pretend it was another weatherballoon with crash test dummies. Why all the lies and deceit over some stupid project that would mean nothing to us now. Makes no sense.
That's what I don't get.
Nothing Top Secret 60 years ago should still be Top Secret today.
We would have already surpassed any technology they had back then by now so why keep trying to cover it unless it was something that could shake the very foundations of our society today.
As far as I know, only aliens, extra-dimensional beings, or time travel could do that.
Ok this is the program many feel created that UFO video above that has gotten over a million hits so far.
Anyways, it's called Vue 6 infinite and the graphics are friggin' amazing as you can see here (http://e-onsoftware.com/products/vue/vue_6_infinite/v6i_video_layout.php)
Ooohhhh...:eek:
Where do I get that precious gem and how do I install it in my computer?
If I had that program, the fun and joy a Photoshop freak like me would be having...
Unfortunately I'd probably never leave my room.:modest:
can we use this programme on laptops? Who needs hollywood when u can do this at home?lol. No point in spending millions.
So this is fake? :bawling: Doesnt matter. I still believe in aliens. The evidence for it is overwhelming and there are plenty of signs they have been here for many years.
There is an interesting theory that they sowed the seeds of human civillisation. That the Gods the ancient egyptians, chinese etc refered to as descending from the heavens were actually extraterrestrials landing in ufo's.:yup:
A programme named "kgb secret files ufo" hosted by roger moore covers this subject brilliantly. :up:
Ooohhhh...:eek:
Where do I get that precious gem and how do I install it in my computer?
You can go here (http://www.e-onsoftware.com/order/ProductList.php?sid=ad24c9a690bd210563c24ec091f07a77&l=1&bCustomer=0) to buy one. Different kinds of Vue programs. From around 700 bucks to 835 US so it ain't cheap.
can we use this program on laptops?
Yeah I'm not sure. There is a version there I believe that only takes 890 MB of space so seems possible. Probably need a wicked graphics card I'm guessing.
So this is fake? :bawling:
Yeah I dunno man. I mean some say this was used cause the same type of trees are used in that program but others who said they saw the program say it isn't the same. But I mean seriously, that video is a little too perfect don't you think. Flying exactly over the camera then the two giving a beautiful view of them both leaving meeting up with the other lights. Like from a Steven Spielberg film honestly.
There is an interesting theory that they sowed the seeds of human civilization.
Thats what that movie Mission To Mars was implying. When they were in the 'Face on Mars' I thought it was cool the way they were showing with the animation to the astronauts on how it all came together on Earth using their own genes.
A programme named "kgb secret files ufo" hosted by roger moore covers this subject brilliantly. :up:
Yeah that's the one I was mentioning earlier. I bought the DVD for cheap but the sound was for the birds. I could barely hear him talking and took allot of the enjoyment out of it. I liked that 8mm camera video of that crashed disc the soldiers were surrounding. They had two cameras going with different angles. One was stationed on the truck and another on the ground. You can even see each camera in their own shots.
You can go here (http://www.e-onsoftware.com/order/ProductList.php?sid=ad24c9a690bd210563c24ec091f07a77&l=1&bCustomer=0) to buy one. Different kinds of Vue programs. From around 700 bucks to 835 US so it ain't cheap.
u telling me :eek:
Yeah I dunno man. I mean some say this was used cause the same type of trees are used in that program but others who said they saw the program say it isn't the same. But I mean seriously, that video is a little too perfect don't you think. Flying exactly over the camera then the two giving a beautiful view of them both leaving meeting up with the other lights. Like from a Steven Spielberg film honestly.
It does look perfect i admit. But hey......now that i know about this vue 6 programme and many claim its fake, I'm willing to accept it.
Oh man, was really excited by that initially :bawling:
Thats what that movie Mission To Mars was implying. When they were in the 'Face on Mars' I thought it was cool the way they were showing with the animation to the astronauts on how it all came together on Earth using their own genes.
Is this movie a comedy?
There are claims that some extraterrestrials look like us. U would sit next to one in a cinema, restuarant or bookshop and not even know it.
Now thats a fascinating thought. Just wondering how many aliens i've spoken to. I have to be reserved however cos theres a danger of becoming paranoid but its interesting and possible.
Yeah that's the one I was mentioning earlier. I bought the DVD for cheap but the sound was for the birds. I could barely hear him talking and took allot of the enjoyment out of it. I liked that 8mm camera video of that crashed disc the soldiers were surrounding. They had two cameras going with different angles. One was stationed on the truck and another on the ground. You can even see each camera in their own shots.
I got two of them. One about ufos and one about ghosts.
But recently i saw another one on youtube that talks about an actual alien autopsy in russia. Again hosted by Moore. This one isnt in shops so i guess its on the net or in the states?
This autopsy was far more convincing than the roswell one. They never hid anything with funny angles and the medical procedures was accurate according to a trained surgeon who analysed it.
But the body didnt have a head and was burnt so i still have reservations. :suspicious: :skeptical:
Does anyone have an opinion on kenneth arnold and the pelican theory?
It does look perfect i admit. But hey......now that i know about this vue 6 programme and many claim its fake, I'm willing to accept it.
I dunno. That saucer in that video link made by that vue 6 program didn't look all that great. But then again the ones made in the You?Tube video were a little on the blurry side and not all that sharp. Could be cause of the poor quality of YouTube itself too or perhaps intentional to throw off the imperfections.
Someone else pointed out that the Palm Trees look very similar to each other as if to say they were created from image then put there.
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/1160/palmsol7.png
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/251/picture11lc5.png
Is this movie a comedy?
No, Mission To Mars was a very serious film. I enjoyed it anyways. Not everyone did though.
There are claims that some extraterrestrials look like us. U would sit next to one in a cinema, restaurant or bookshop and not even know it.
Reminds me of the movie 'They Live' where only special sunglasses could see them and they were not too pretty heheh.
Nada: "You see, I take these glasses off, she looks like a regular person, doesn't she? Put 'em back on...formaldehyde-face!"
I got two of them. One about ufos and one about ghosts.
How was the sound quality on the UFO one? Was it crap like mine?
But recently i saw another one on youtube that talks about an actual alien autopsy in russia. Again hosted by Moore. This one isn't in shops so i guess its on the net or in the states?
Sounds interesting. I tried to YouTube it but to no avail. :(
This autopsy was far more convincing than the Roswell one. They never hid anything with funny angles and the medical procedures was accurate according to a trained surgeon who analyzed it.
One thing that always indicated that it was a hoax to me was how many shots were blurry. I mean if this is such a huge event, they would make sure to capture it with allot more clarity and wouldn't be so sloppy about handling the internal organs.
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dunno. That saucer in that video link made by that vue 6 program didn't look all that great. But then again the ones made in the You?Tube video were a little on the blurry side and not all that sharp. Could be cause of the poor quality of YouTube itself too or perhaps intentional to throw off the imperfections.
Someone else pointed out that the Palm Trees look very similar to each other as if to say they were created from image then put there.
i saw the similarities yeah.
No, Mission To Mars was a very serious film. I enjoyed it anyways. Not everyone did though.
will chekc it out.
How was the sound quality on the UFO one? Was it crap like mine?
No it was fine. U have that dvd too yes? But bad quality?
Sounds interesting. I tried to YouTube it but to no avail. :(
Type in "russian roswell" and a few will come up. There is another good programme under a similar name called "russian roswell story".
"russian roswell crashed ufo" is the kgb one hosted by roger moore.
"russian roswell story" is another fantastic documentary that talks about a russian military base named kapustin yar whcih is their equivalent of area 51.
Apparently, russian fighter jets were engaged in a number of air battles with ufos and the ufos retaliated by destroying some of the russian bases. Very interesting.
I never heard about ufos attacking bases before until i saw it. :eek:
Let me know if u find it. :bashful:
One thing that always indicated that it was a hoax to me was how many shots were blurry. I mean if this is such a huge event, they would make sure to capture it with allot more clarity and wouldn't be so sloppy about handling the internal organs
The guy that showed it to the world was named ray santilli and annoyed the crap out of me. :furious:
When he was asked questions he gave stupid answers that was sooooo obvious it was a fake and insulted the viewers.
When people started to doubt its authenticity they asked quesitons. Realising he was getting caught out, santilli admitted (finally) that some of it was real and some of it was fake, but based on the REAL autopsy. This killed half my interest already :suspicious:
When asked which parts were real and which were fake he says he doesnt remember. :sleep:
This was the final nail in the coffin. He said a few more ridiculous things but i dont remember exactly what. I just know it was infuriating and i lost interest ever since. I dont bother with it now.
:nope:
But the roswell case.....i love it. It is more convincing and so obvious there was a cover up. Yeah, lets all threaten witnesses over some kitchen foil. :laugh:
will check it out.
Ok cool. :)
No it was fine. U have that DVD too yes? But bad quality?
Yup. I got it at Wal-Mart for like 5 bucks but it was crapola. I only got through it cause the video's of the UFO's such as the Mig's chasing the cigar shaped one, then it just speeding off leaving it in it's dust were so intriguing. Especially like I said the footage involving the crashed disk surrounded by the Russian soldiers.
Type in "russian roswell" and a few will come up. There is another good programme under a similar name called "russian roswell story".
Ah OK. Here is part of the DVD I was speaking of regarding the crashed disk. This time there's no sound to it though. Another thing about it, is if you notice they also shot inside the UFO there but the footage is not available. If this is the real deal, it sure would be neat getting a hold of that video. :licklips:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYuWZ8m2l9U
"russian roswell crashed ufo" is the kgb one hosted by roger moore.
"russian roswell story" is another fantastic documentary that talks about a russian military base named kapustin yar whcih is their equivalent of area 51.
Yeah I see allot of links popping up there. I'm definitely going to check these out. Maybe Saturday after work.
Apparently, russian fighter jets were engaged in a number of air battles with ufos and the ufos retaliated by destroying some of the russian bases. Very interesting.
Yeah that always made me wonder there. Why would such advanced beings find the need to destroy far less superior crafts when they could just zip away in a flash. Perhaps some species if there are many are not as friendly as we would like to think. I dunno.
I never heard about ufos attacking bases before until i saw it. :eek:
Let me know if u find it. :bashful:
Say what? Did I say that? :confused:
When asked which parts were real and which were fake he says he doesnt remember. :sleep:
Lmao. What a dork. :laugh:
This was the final nail in the coffin. He said a few more ridiculous things but i dont remember exactly what. I just know it was infuriating and i lost interest ever since. I dont bother with it now.
I pretty much wrote that off not long after I saw it.
But the roswell case.....i love it. It is more convincing and so obvious there was a cover up. Yeah, lets all threaten witnesses over some kitchen foil.
Mm-hmm. I also always remember the big menacing Red Headed General or whatever rank he was. Witnesses mentioned him a few times.
"Of course there is other life out there. Imagine if you will a BB, you know the little golden ball used in many pop guns. Now imagine how many BBs it would take to fill a 5 gallon bucket.......................... now imagine how many it would take to fill the Atlantic Ocean.
Now imagine how many it would take to fill the space in our Solar System..............now Imagine that our Universe is the size of a BB in comparison to all that is....now Imagine Alien Life, not too far fetched is it?"
Mr. Hall, a philosophy teacher of mine in College.
Sci-Fi-Guy
08-17-07, 06:52 AM
"Of course there is other life out there. Imagine if you will a BB, you know the little golden ball used in many pop guns. Now imagine how many BBs it would take to fill a 5 gallon bucket.......................... now imagine how many it would take to fill the Atlantic Ocean.
Now imagine how many it would take to fill the space in our Solar System..............now Imagine that our Universe is the size of a BB in comparison to all that is....now Imagine Alien Life, not too far fetched is it?"
Mr. Hall, a philosophy teacher of mine in College.
You just reminded me of the 10 Dimension Theory (http://www.tenthdimension.com/flash2.php) (click on the 'Imagining the Ten Dimensions' link)...
It's pretty interesting if you can wrap your mind around it but most people get lost after the 8th Dimension of the tutorial.:goof:
:eek: (I finally understood all 10 dimensions once but reality unfolded before my eyes and the meaning of life was exposed to me. Once I became unreal I had to make myself forget it all just so I could return to my normal life.):eek:
Yup. I got it at Wal-Mart for like 5 bucks but it was crapola. I only got through it cause the video's of the UFO's such as the Mig's chasing the cigar shaped one, then it just speeding off leaving it in it's dust were so intriguing. Especially like I said the footage involving the crashed disk surrounded by the Russian soldiers.
My dvd was ok. Some of the sound was dodgy but overall ok.
Another thing about it, is if you notice they also shot inside the UFO there but the footage is not available. If this is the real deal, it sure would be neat getting a hold of that video. :licklips:
This is where i get a little sceptical although being a believer myself.
However, there is plenty of evidence to convince me of extraterrestrial life. Roswell and these kgb documentaries are classics. :) :bashful:
Yeah that always made me wonder there. Why would such advanced beings find the need to destroy far less superior crafts when they could just zip away in a flash. Perhaps some species if there are many are not as friendly as we would like to think. I dunno.
They may be advanced and can zip away but thats not to say they cant get angry and retaliate if we keep on shooting them.
Just as we do to other countries when they attack.
Robert dean, an ex u.s intelligence officer says he doesnt believe aliens are here to attack. They have been here for thousands of years and could of done so back then during our ancient times when we had none of the technology to fight back.
He believes they are here to study and observe. Will get to that later.........
Say what? Did I say that? :confused:
Huh? :confused: I didnt say u said that. I was just saying I myself have never heard of ufos attacking military bases util i saw documentaries. :)
Lmao. What a dork. :laugh:
yeah man. That hoax is the reason for the huge number of sceptics.
They may be advanced and can zip away but thats not to say they cant get angry and retaliate if we keep on shooting them.
Just as we do to other countries when they attack.
Yeah but I mean shouldn't they realize that it's not their world and we have no clue how hostile they are or what their true intentions are? I dunno. I think I'm thinking more of a how Captain Picard would say and observe but don't meddle in other worlds heheh.
Robert dean, an ex u.s intelligence officer says he doesn't believe aliens are here to attack. They have been here for thousands of years and could of done so back then during our ancient times when we had none of the technology to fight back.
He believes they are here to study and observe. Will get to that later.........
Yeah I mean if indeed they are here and have been here that long, they would have had ample opportunity to do so, so he makes sense there.
Huh? :confused: I didnt say u said that. I was just saying I myself have never heard of ufos attacking military bases util i saw documentaries.
OK sorry. Thought the way you said that you were replying off a comment of mine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JAtIzZy0H0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPMCr-9mExg
Hey escape, just worked out how to paste websites here. Lol. Wasnt that familiar with pc's so didnt do it earlier.
Here they are. :) Russian roswell story and russian crashed ufo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjQgqZ6eMP4
Heres a programme about the roswell debris that someone kept. Now......this is more like the real stuff. NOT the flimsy foil that was shown in the photos.
check it out :bashful: :up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JAtIzZy0H0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPMCr-9mExg
Here they are. :) Russian roswell story and russian crashed ufo
Yeah, that first one is the one I have and you can tell the sound is still going up and down there. Mine is allot worse than that though.
I wish they could perhaps identify some of those young soldiers when that footage was taken if indeed it is real and interview them today. They should be around 60 to their late 60s by now. I liked that little reenactment how they figured the disc crashed into the forest there.
That second link is cool. I never saw that one before but I have heard of the "Tunguska event" in June 1908 and they're right. There should be a crater if it was a meteor which tells me it was something else. Is it possible for nature to split an atom without Man's help heheh. I dunno but weird indeed.
But it is only a Russian UFO expert who says that the base may have had Alien technology so really not much proof at all. But if they ever did capture any, that would indeed be the most likely place to hide them I suppose.
Also that second crash site I dunno there. I need more than one man's testimony using two copper rods searching for ambient energy. I mean sure he says animals avoid the place but I'd like some legitimate scientific research first with proper electrical sensory machines to try to legitimately read this unknown energy.
I did like hearing the testimony from that celebrated female test pilot and the male test pilot giving their account of encounters between the Russian Mig's and the UFOs some decent credibility. His story involving his plane touching that tractor beam like light just like some story out of Star Trek was cool heheh.
The two fireball UFOs at the end of part 5 was an interesting story. I still can't see how they could be shot down like that if they were attacking the base. I dunno.
Hey escape, just worked out how to paste websites here. Lol. Wasn't that familiar with PC's so didn't do it earlier.
How do you copy paste links with Apple? I used my brothers a couple times and I could swear it's the same way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjQgqZ6eMP4
Heres a programme about the roswell debris that someone kept. Now......this is more like the real stuff. NOT the flimsy foil that was shown in the photos.
check it out :bashful: :up:
Mm-hmm. I did see that little object getting examined on another show but not this exact one. I never heard about the sabotaged UFO conference dealing with this debris and their out of this world findings. I like how the guy at the end is starting to get worried that it's in his possession seeing as the the other two guys who had it are now dead. Just funny how he said that heheh.
Here's (http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/decade/post2000.htm) a site I keep in my favorites that give updates of any UFO pics uploaded on the net. There hasn't been one for about 5 months though.
Sci-Fi-Guy
08-18-07, 11:46 PM
How do you copy paste links with Apple? I used my brothers a couple times and I could swear it's the same way.
What problem were you having with mine?
You only mentioned you didn't know how to open a second window for Safari and I told you to right click the mouse and hit 'New Window'.
The links are the same on a regular PC, just click the icon in the address bar to highlight and copy/paste it.
Here's (http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/decade/post2000.htm) a site I keep in my favorites that give updates of any UFO pics uploaded on the net. There hasn't been one for about 5 months though.
Nice UFOs on that one.
Here's (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/19/pg1/srtpages) the message board I like.
It's the UFO section to this site. (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/)
By the way...
Another UFO:
This one's supposed to be a mile wide causing sonic booms.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u81Nk1gN8ao&mode=related&search=
:cool:
What problem were you having with mine?
No, I said I didnt think it was diff. Maybe fbi was just thinking it would be different with the PCs that's all.
By the way...
Another UFO:
This one's supposed to be a mile wide causing sonic booms.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u81Nk1gN8ao&mode=related&search=
:cool:
Um, that's another pretty damn sweet UFO video and that was only like 3 days ago? What the hell is going on here? Gotta be fake but damn man someone can make a pretty friggin' decent movie if it's phoney baloney. Any vid as close up as that and for real would be out in the news in 5 minutes. Going in my favorites for sure now. Oh and I loved the way the people were screaming there to add to that sweet effect. Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm. I did see that little object getting examined on another show but not this exact one. I never heard about the sabotaged UFO conference dealing with this debris and their out of this world findings. I like how the guy at the end is starting to get worried that it's in his possession seeing as the the other two guys who had it are now dead. Just funny how he said that heheh.
huh:confused: I thought u were aware of the this. The flimsy weather balloon material that was shown in the press conference photos whcih witnesses claim were NOT what was found in the debris field.
We spoke about this earlier on.
(http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/decade/post2000.htm)
(http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/decade/post2000.htm)[QUOTE] (http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/decade/post2000.htm)Here's (http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/decade/post2000.htm) a site I keep in my favorites that give updates of any UFO pics uploaded on the net. There hasn't been one for about 5 months though.
(http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/decade/post2000.htm)
Thanks. :)
How do you copy paste links with Apple? I used my brothers a couple times and I could swear it's the same way.
I'm lousy with pc's and only know basics so i dont know. Sorry.:(
Um, that's another pretty damn sweet UFO video and that was only like 3 days ago? What the hell is going on here? Gotta be fake but damn man someone can make a pretty friggin' decent movie if it's phoney baloney. Any vid as close up as that and for real would be out in the news in 5 minutes. Going in my favorites for sure now. Oh and I loved the way the people were screaming there to add to that sweet effect. Mm-hmm.
yeah. agree. The trees are the same as the other footage. Is this another Vue 6 programme?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G4KnhYuWD8&mode=related&search=
Check this out. Very disturbing and possibly my fav documentary. The guy who refused to show his face is very convincing but not sure about the alien footage though.
However, his description of the alien and what he knows sounds genuine.
U guys decide.
huh:confused: I thought u were aware of the this. The flimsy weather balloon material that was shown in the press conference photos which witnesses claim were NOT what was found in the debris field.
We spoke about this earlier on.
Noooooooo, I was talking about that guy on the video link about that mysterious piece he was examining. 'His' UFO conference that he was going to being cancelled not the one back in '47. :nope:
yeah. agree. The trees are the same as the other footage. Is this another Vue 6 programme?
I'm not sure. Many say they are made from some kind of earth made program anyways.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G4KnhYuWD8&mode=related&search=
Check this out. Very disturbing and possibly my fav documentary. The guy who refused to show his face is very convincing but not sure about the alien footage though.
However, his description of the alien and what he knows sounds genuine.
U guys decide.
Yeah, I saw that one a long time ago. I remember that guy at the very front of it and end there named 'Victor' who had his voice disguised there. When they electronically hide the true voice that always makes it sound serious and legit but can be done by anyone there with the right equipment. I keep remembering him saying the words "This interview is terminated" heheh.
That Bob Lazar fellow is known in the UFO world as well with such intricate details about the saucers. I'm skeptical of him though. He really doesn't have anything to back up he was there. I don't even think he can prove he studied at the University he said he studied at. His demeanor is so calm though. If he is a liar he's damn good at it.
David Adair's testimony I would love to take to be credible just on the basis of where he worked before but I mean how much of a legitimate background check was done on him. I dunno.
"How do you copy paste links with Apple? I used my brothers a couple times and I could swear it's the same way."
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"How do you copy paste links with Apple? I used my brothers a couple times and I could swear it's the same way."
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Yeah it's the same. I think fbi was just figuring it diff as he's gets himself familiar with his PC.
This has to be the best evidence yet of aliens. Just found the vid today and it's detail is just incredible. Notice at the end there how this creature seems to enjoy mocking us humans. I lost a little bit of respect for them because of that the little bug eyed bastards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMOSOLsEXDU&mode=related&search=
According to Wikipedia, Otto Binder was a science fiction writer.
OMG, not another L Ron Hubbard :eek:
Sci-Fi-Guy
08-21-07, 11:26 AM
Well the Los Roques mothership UFO has a new video suggesting the government may have known about this one since 1971....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVV3YAgHl2o
As I commented to the original YouTube poster, Manbird1200, I don't even care if these are real or his own creations, they look so damn sweeeeeet!
(His clips came out after seeing the Haiti and DR ones so I'm guessing he's created these 2 vids himself since from his account he is into CGI but refuses to say if he did or didn't make them and wants people to open their minds instead)
I suggested to him that it'd be nice to see the mothership over a big city one day so... I guess I'll have to wait and see.;D
I suggested to him that it'd be nice to see the mothership over a big city one day so... I guess I'll have to wait and see.;D
:yup:
Sci-Fi-Guy
08-22-07, 08:09 AM
Well, the mothership UFO has been at last revealed!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qq****bT8g
He didn't do the haiti ones but at least now we can see how they were probably done with Vue6 as well.
I WANT THAT PROGRAM!!!:yup:
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Bah!
The YouTube window isn't working for some reason.:skeptical:
Here's the address for it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qq****bT8g
:cool:
Well, the mothership UFO has been at last revealed!
He didn't do the haiti ones but at least now we can see how they were probably done with Vue6 as well.
I WANT THAT PROGRAM!!!:yup:
And what would be your first priority if indeed you got that program Scifiguy?
(EDIT)
Bah!
The YouTube window isn't working for some reason.:skeptical:
Here's the address for it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qq****bT8g
:cool:
Your link doesn't work either. It says the url contained a malformed video id.
Noooooooo, I was talking about that guy on the video link about that mysterious piece he was examining. 'His' UFO conference that he was going to being cancelled not the one back in '47. :nope:
I see. lol. sorry.
Yeah, I saw that one a long time ago. I remember that guy at the very front of it and end there named 'Victor' who had his voice disguised there. When they electronically hide the true voice that always makes it sound serious and legit but can be done by anyone there with the right equipment. I keep remembering him saying the words "This interview is terminated" heheh.
It wasnt only his disguised voice that convinced me. It was his choice of words, description of the alien and their intentions.
That Bob Lazar fellow is known in the UFO world as well with such intricate details about the saucers. I'm skeptical of him though. He really doesn't have anything to back up he was there. I don't even think he can prove he studied at the University he said he studied at. His demeanor is so calm though. If he is a liar he's damn good at it.
There actually was proof that he worked there. Originally, they denied having ever heard of lazar. But when the programme makers found a phone directory for all the employees at that time, lazars name was on it.
When confronted with this proof, they admitted that lazar did work for them but only for basic projects. ;D
Sci-Fi-Guy
08-22-07, 01:55 PM
Your link doesn't work either. It says the url contained a malformed video id.
Wierd.
The address has a four letter word in it for some reason so these boards won't show it. It appears as astrixes.
It's the vid by manbird1200 on the top here called 'UFO Unvieled...':
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=UFO+Unveiled...&search=Search
http://img.youtube.com/vi/YkSw9MPvIRI/default.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkSw9MPvIRI&mode=related&search=)
Check this out
http://bestsmileys.com/aliens/2.gif
There actually was proof that he worked there. Originally, they denied having ever heard of lazar. But when the programme makers found a phone directory for all the employees at that time, lazars name was on it.
I dunno. They also asked many students that went to the same University he claims to have studied at if they ever saw him around and nobody seems to remember. I can't see not one person, not even a teacher unable to recognizing him if he really did go there and even if his records were erased intentionally as he says.
Weird.
It's the vid by manbird1200 on the top here called 'UFO Unvieled...':
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=UFO+Unveiled...&search=Search
OK yeah just watched it. Cool of him to have not allowed it to go on like that without saying how it was done. Not sure what he said on his first video but it seems he never once claimed it to be real or try to pass it off as real. He just threw it on there and let the people go nuts lmao. His words "This was never a hoax...
it was taken as one...." tells us this.
Also, he used a real video camera too, to somehow integrate it with the image so it's not all the vue doing that. It was the sound effects of the people in the background we hear explaining the sonic boom as it happened that added to the realism for me anyways.
http://img.youtube.com/vi/YkSw9MPvIRI/default.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkSw9MPvIRI&mode=related&search=)
Check this out
Yeah I heard that before and the part where they claim the trees near them at the time were not strong enough and unable to handle the burden of all that weight of a stone thereby omitting that theory was a good one.
Regarding the face on Mars, this program must have been on t.v. before '98 and 2001 when they reshot the image from with their MOC on their craft capturing a lower grade image and nothing at all like the face we first thought. Who knows though. They could have tampered with that too.
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/8463/vikingmocface20moq0.gif
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1992/facee03824procijq0.gif
Sci-Fi-Guy
08-23-07, 11:17 AM
Y'know, that 'Face on Mars' thing has always looked vaguely familiar to me...
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/8463/vikingmocface20moq0.gif
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/6941/potand6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Coincidence...?
Hmmmm................
:drevil:
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http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1992/facee03824procijq0.gifhttp://img237.imageshack.us/img237/8463/vikingmocface20moq0.gif
There is supposedly also pyramids on mars. From the looks of them though, they seem as if they were there a long long time. Maybe hundreds or thousands of years before our first civilisations developed.
The pyramids look weather beaten and slightly out of shape.
When analysed, the several pyramids and face on mars resembles the giza site of egypt. :idea: Have to look in to that.
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Y'know, that 'Face on Mars' thing has always looked vaguely familiar to me...
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/6941/potand6.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
Coincidence...?
Hmmmm................
:drevil:[/quote
lol
lol
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QkeOUzKRzLY&mode=related&search=
This i dont buy despite being a believer. It supposedly shows an alien abduction. :suspicious:
But look at it, there is nothing to undeniably prove it was genuine. A flash of light, a guy vanishes BEHIND a sign :frustrated: and they deem this as authentic?
It could be though.
Y'know, that 'Face on Mars' thing has always looked vaguely familiar to me...
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/6941/potand6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Coincidence...?
Hmmmm................
:drevil:
Lmao, I always thought that myself. I just never said it out loud.
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There is supposedly also pyramids on mars. From the looks of them though, they seem as if they were there a long long time. Maybe hundreds or thousands of years before our first civilisations developed.
The pyramids look weather beaten and slightly out of shape.
When analysed, the several pyramids and face on mars resembles the giza site of egypt. :idea: Have to look in to that.
Yeah I also heard they line up almost perfectly with the earthly pyramids. Same distance apart and everything from the face. That video said something similar actually.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QkeOUzKRzLY&mode=related&search=
This i dont buy despite being a believer. It supposedly shows an alien abduction. :suspicious:
But look at it, there is nothing to undeniably prove it was genuine. A flash of light, a guy vanishes BEHIND a sign :frustrated: and they deem this as authentic?
I remember seeing this when it was on t.v. I miss Ryker's 'UFOs: The Best evidence caught on tape' specials he used to have on. :(
As for that particular video, the first thing that immediately strikes me with doubt is the fact that the guy wanted money for the tape. Other than that it does look legit except for the fact, like you said there is absolutely no proof it's not a fabrication. It could be possible but I highly doubt it.
Yeah I also heard they line up almost perfectly with the earthly pyramids. Same distance apart and everything from the face. That video said something similar actually.
One of the mars pyramids has five sides, unlike the ones on earth which has four. This makes me a little sceptical since it could easily be just a mountain that resembles a pyramid. :bawling:
However, the evidence overall is convincing so i have to keep on youtubing.
When the face on mars was first shown, nasa claimed it was a trick of light. But a different photo taken from another angle shows the same thing. A human face. So it cant be a trick of light. :nope:
I remember seeing this when it was on t.v. I miss Ryker's 'UFOs: The Best evidence caught on tape' specials he used to have on. :(
U seem to have seen a lot of ufo documentaries. Any u can recommend me?
As for that particular video, the first thing that immediately strikes me with doubt is the fact that the guy wanted money for the tape.
people asking for money doesnt strike me as suspicious. They could have genuine evidence but just dont want to give it away without some profit.
Other than that it does look legit except for the fact, like you said there is absolutely no proof it's not a fabrication. It could be possible but I highly doubt it.
The fact that the camera completely goes fuzzy after the flash and then comes back on when the man returns is very suspicious :skeptical: and only encourages ridicule.
I dont know what makes people say this is genuine proof of abductions since there are plenty of better ufo footage.
Maybe the person who sent the footage knew something we didnt?
U seem to have seen a lot of ufo documentaries. Any u can recommend me?
I'll have to think. Did you ever watch 'Sightings' when it was on the Fox network a few years back. Late 90's I think.
people asking for money doesnt strike me as suspicious. They could have genuine evidence but just dont want to give it away without some profit.
Yeah I understand but that video has been around for a good 6 or more years I think and surely something would have come out of it. The actual guy in the video for example. Surely he would have been tracked down by now. I dunno. Like you said though. Not very much to go on and he wants money for it. Who knows.
The fact that the camera completely goes fuzzy after the flash and then comes back on when the man returns is very suspicious :skeptical: and only encourages ridicule.
Yes, good point. Seems a little too perfect there.
Sci-Fi-Guy
08-24-07, 12:56 PM
U seem to have seen a lot of ufo documentaries. Any u can recommend me?
I'll have to think. Did you ever watch 'Sightings' when it was on the Fox network a few years back. Late 90's I think.
I can remember Sightings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sightings), Encounters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encounters_%28TV_series%29), Beyond Belief: Fact or Fiction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_Belief:_Fact_or_Fiction), Unexplained Mysteries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unexplained_Mysteries), Ancient Mysteries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Mysteries), The Unexplained (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unexplained), Beyond (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond%2C_The_Series), and Proof Positive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_Positive).
Not sure what ones would be available on DVD or online.
They didn't just deal with UFOs though. Ghosts and other paranormal phenomenon were also included.
:cool:
I can remember Sightings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sightings), Encounters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encounters_%28TV_series%29), Beyond Belief: Fact or Fiction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_Belief:_Fact_or_Fiction), Unexplained Mysteries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unexplained_Mysteries), Ancient Mysteries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Mysteries), The Unexplained (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unexplained), Beyond (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond%2C_The_Series), and Proof Positive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_Positive).
Yeah those are pretty much the ones I have seen though I dont believe I saw Proof Positive or watched Ancient Mysteries any either.
fbi, check out this clip by that t.v. show 'Scare Tactics' where they set it up to make this guy and girl believe they were being attacked by aliens in the car. The chick just freeeeeeeaked. Usually, people will come back and later laugh at themselves but not her cause she ended up suing their butts for almost giving her a heart attack.
Oh and watch the black guy leave her for alien food and run for the hills lmao.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nRnb9fsyNo
Now, that is nasty :laugh:
Yeah those are pretty much the ones I have seen though I dont believe I saw Proof Positive or watched Ancient Mysteries any either.
fbi, check out this clip by that t.v. show 'Scare Tactics' where they set it up to make this guy and girl believe they were being attacked by aliens in the car. The chick just freeeeeeeaked. Usually, people will come back and later laugh at themselves but not her cause she ended up suing their butts for almost giving her a heart attack.
Oh and watch the black guy leave her for alien food and run for the hills lmao.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nRnb9fsyNo
wow. I dont blame her for suing their butts. That was quite scary and i myself would be frightened. Glad shes ok though.
I would advise people to be careful about making these type of programmes cos some people may have heart attacks for real.
And u never know how it may affect them psychologically in the future.:)
I'll have to think. Did you ever watch 'Sightings' when it was on the Fox network a few years back. Late 90's I think.
Will check it out. Thanks
I can remember Sightings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sightings), Encounters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encounters_%28TV_series%29), Beyond Belief: Fact or Fiction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_Belief:_Fact_or_Fiction), Unexplained Mysteries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unexplained_Mysteries), Ancient Mysteries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Mysteries), The Unexplained (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unexplained), Beyond (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond%2C_The_Series), and Proof Positive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_Positive).
Not sure what ones would be available on DVD or online.
They didn't just deal with UFOs though. Ghosts and other paranormal phenomenon were also included.
:cool:
thanks
I would advise people to be careful about making these type of programmes cos some people may have heart attacks for real.
And u never know how it may affect them psychologically in the future.:)
Mm-hmm. That's perhaps one of the reasons why they are not on anymore too.
I usually worried when they did it too the really heavy set people honestly. Their hearts were probably overworked at it was without that extra strain from the stress that would give them.
One thing I didn't like about that show was the host Shannon Dougherty. I never liked her as an actress.
Sci-Fi-Guy
08-26-07, 12:04 AM
LOL.
Scare Tactics was an awesome show.
My favorite episode was the Bigfoot one.
LMAO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxgEJEl_ruU
Course then there was the Rat-boy one...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A49M0PeglDM
:rotfl:
Oh and this dork here 'Almost' ruined that Sasquatch episode. That stupid smirk on his face the entire time made me want to lay the hurt on the bugger.
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4360/91436283en4.jpg
That Rat boy one was friggin' hilarous especially the way that dude screamed lol.
A 'Blair Witch' type of alien attack caught on tape. :eek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-PE178-944&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eabovetopsecret%2Ecom%2Fforum%2Fthread299119%2Fpg1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-PE178-944&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eabovetopsecret%2Ecom%2Fforum%2Fthread299119%2Fpg1)
Ufo sighting in Parma, Italy
Four objects, visible to the naked eye, hovered over Parma on August 10 2007.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k70S_bfe7s
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/3332/parma02mi4.jpg
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7228/parma01om3.jpg
Giorgio Pattera (biologist and ufo researcher) said: "the sky over the area between Pilastro, Panocchia and Lesignano is a kind of "highway" for UFOs".
"A phenomena similar to the one of Stratford."
"We're in front of an unexplainable phenomena-
Pattera said - It's a classic example of lights in formation,
red internally and surrounded by a weak bright ring.
The sighting is absolutely well-founded.
The only difference between this sighting and the Stratford one
is that in that case the lights were six, whereas in this one were four.
I've been notified about the sighting by several people, absolutely trustworthy.
The pics we gathered so far are genuine, and the lights habe been sighted from different places, even from the town (Parma).
For this reason, i believe that the UFOs where at an hight altitude.»
Conclusively, are UFOs.
Is not possible to explain what they were, but is possible to
explain what they weren't.
We absolutely can exclude:
planes, helicopters, weather balloons, meteorites."
This is not the first time that this kind of sightings have been reported:
"We can state that the sky over the area between Pilastro, Panocchia and Lesignano is a kind of "highway" for UFOs:" - pattera said -
"Usually here, after a sighting of this kind, other sightings have been reported."
:up: fantastic stuff.
My guess is that they are genuine alien craft doing thier routine reconnaisance, observing etc. Maybe they are just checking up on us as they have been for hundreds of years.
These are among the few extraterrestrial footage/photos that i take seriously since no-one has really been able to explain them. Whereas other ones are proven to be planes, military craft or natural phenomena. :bashful:
:up: fantastic stuff.
My guess is that they are genuine alien craft doing thier routine reconnaisance, observing etc. Maybe they are just checking up on us as they have been for hundreds of years.
Weird though they travel so far in the blackness of space only to 'light up' when they arrive here.
These are among the few extraterrestrial footage/photos that i take seriously since no-one has really been able to explain them. Whereas other ones are proven to be planes, military craft or natural phenomena. :bashful:
You mean the ones similar to this. This set is rather new.
Sci-Fi-Guy
08-29-07, 02:33 AM
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/686/parma02mi4dj3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
That one kinda reminded me of the ones we saw as kids that time, Escape.
You remember what time I'm talking about.
One shooting star...two shooting stars, three shooting stars, 4 shooting stars...
I can't remember how many altogether we wound up seeing moving in a straight line across the sky all at once that night.
We did see a hell of a lot of UFOs in our hometown when we were kids though.
Sometimes we were both looking at the same object and later we both remembered it differently.:dizzy:
I'm not even gonna get into the 'Old Buck' story here.:blush:
Weird though they travel so far in the blackness of space only to 'light up' when they arrive here.
Understandable. Dont know why they do that and i was speculating anyway.
But if the rumours of goverments having an ongoing dialogue with aliens since roswell are true, maybe they have been permitted to fly around our skies at certain times and gather information provided they dont cause disturbance?
You mean the ones similar to this. This set is rather new.
yes thats what i meant. :yup:
That one kinda reminded me of the ones we saw as kids that time, Escape.
You remember what time I'm talking about.
One shooting star...two shooting stars, three shooting stars, 4 shooting stars...
I can't remember how many altogether we wound up seeing moving in a straight line across the sky all at once that night.
We did see a hell of a lot of UFOs in our hometown when we were kids though.
Sometimes we were both looking at the same object and later we both remembered it differently.:dizzy:
I'm not even gonna get into the 'Old Buck' story here.:blush:
u and escape know each other?
Sci-Fi-Guy
08-29-07, 11:33 PM
u and escape know each other?
Well, our parents claim we're brothers but I still think I was hatched from a fallen pod. http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4425/115ys8zk6.gif (http://imageshack.us)
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7995/alien1tp5.gif (http://imageshack.us)http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/1103/aliensaucer8jj4.gif (http://imageshack.us)
Well, our parents claim we're brothers
Aww thats nice http://bestsmileys.com/aliens/7.gifhttp://bestsmileys.com/aliens/7.gif
Well, our parents claim we're brothers but I still think I was hatched from a fallen pod. http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4425/115ys8zk6.gif (http://imageshack.us)
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7995/alien1tp5.gif (http://imageshack.us)http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/1103/aliensaucer8jj4.gif (http://imageshack.us)
:eek:
You remember what time I'm talking about.
One shooting star...two shooting stars, three shooting stars, 4 shooting stars...
I can't remember how many altogether we wound up seeing moving in a straight line across the sky all at once that night.
About 5 in a row I believe. Tough to forget that. Even as a 7 or 8 year old I knew there was something very strange going on there.
I'm not even gonna get into the 'Old Buck' story here.:blush:
Um no, you better not lmao.
Interesting video about 62 children describing these little aliens they say they saw.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5PQleH2Hz8&mode=related&search=
http://www.truinsight.com/absolute_proof_of_alien_artifici.htm
This is very interesting.
http://www.truinsight.com/absolute_proof_of_alien_artifici.htm
This is very interesting.
I dunno there fbi. All the pics are so blurry or in the shadows and they seems to be a far stretch of the imagination. :yup:
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/hieroplanes.gif
famous photo of images found in a 3000 year old egyptian temple. Clearly shows helicopters and modern aircraft. :)
These apparanetly are not included in tourguide books which indicates that keen egyptian archaeologists do not wish them to be seen by the public
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicegypt.htm
Heres the web page
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/hieroplanes.gif
famous photo of images found in a 3000 year old egyptian temple. Clearly shows helicopters and modern aircraft. :)
These apparently are not included in tourguide books which indicates that keen Egyptian archaeologists do not wish them to be seen by the public
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicegypt.htm
Heres the web page
I'll have to check this out later. No time at the moment but looks interesting. And yes, glancing at that pic, those indeed seem like our present day flying vehicles. One even looks like a car from The Jetsons heheh.
Sci-Fi-Guy
09-05-07, 12:11 AM
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/hieroplanes.gif
famous photo of images found in a 3000 year old egyptian temple. Clearly shows helicopters and modern aircraft. :)
These apparanetly are not included in tourguide books which indicates that keen egyptian archaeologists do not wish them to be seen by the public
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicegypt.htm
Heres the web page
Of course a true UFO skeptic would say "That does not prove aliens exist...
:skeptical:
...It proves time travel does!"
:p
In either case, there was obviously alot more going on back in ancient times than we will ever know.
And yes, glancing at that pic, those indeed seem like our present day flying vehicles. One even looks like a car from The Jetsons heheh.
:laugh:
Of course a true UFO skeptic would say "That does not prove aliens exist...
:skeptical:
I'll just tell them that i agree but it does show that ancient egyptians knew about modern aircraft. All u have to ask urself is what inspired them to draw these images? Did they just doodle and coincidentally came up with a helicopter?
I dont think so. :nope:
They drew what they saw in my opinion. :yup: However, artists do create strange images that dont resembnle anything and are just based on feelings so i have to bear that in mind.
...It proves time travel does!"
:p
In either case, there was obviously alot more going on back in ancient times than we will ever know.
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yes.
This pic looked pretty interesting in that link fbi. A really weird looking bug eyed creature.
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/etenlargement.jpg
This is hilarious. Saw this on a site where people are actually entertained by the thought that it's a real live alien chillin' in the back ground as George Bush gives a nationwide speech. I think he wants to phone home George lmao.
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/timages/page/Bush_alien090607b1.jpg
Hey escape. I sent u a pm. dont know if u got it. Sorry mate. I didnt realise i had pm's cos i usually dont have much time on pc since i always use library. Will pay more attention from now on.
talk soon. Did u manage to check out more of those egypt pictures?
Sir Toose
10-12-07, 10:41 AM
One of the most interesting sites I've found dealing with stuff like this is
The Black Vault Radio Network (http://www.theblackvault.com/)
The site is owned by John Greenwald who has a podcast show where he discusses how he and several other folks have been instrumental in employing the freedom of information act to obtain documents relative to UFO's, the moon landing etc. As of right now it does only scratch the surface but John is definitely an intelligent guy and speaks very articulately on the subjects. Give him a listen.
Also, I love The Enterprise Mission (http://www.enterprisemission.com/), Richard Hoagland's site about the moon, Mars, space missions in general. Better polish up on your science and physics, some of the contributors write high level documentation that I certainly have trouble wrapping my head around.
Finally, I love listening to Stanton Friedman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg_r8Krx4hA). He's gotta be the most articulate nuclear physicist (yeah, he's a nutcase :rolleyes: ) out there. If you take the time to research and listen to the man you'll not only discover that he's extremely well versed and lucid but that he makes a really solid case every time he takes something on. Brilliant!
Sexy Celebrity
02-04-11, 02:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ-bNOy_CKQ
Very popular UFO video going around right now. January 28, 2011. Jerusalem. UFO flies down to Dome of the Rock, Temple Mount (something like that.) Is it real? My intuition says "no." But it's very cool and looks like it could be real. I think that flash before the UFO goes back up in the air real fast looks fake.
This one I'm not so sure about. It looks fake and cheesy, yet it somehow seems more authentic to me (special effects don't always work better, guys.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CclVA1_xWuA
My biggest question is: We live in a time where people practically have cameras on them all the time because of their cell phones. Why then are there not that many amateur UFO videos being taken and uploaded on Youtube? There really aren't. There's clips from TV shows and such, but I can't find much from ordinary folks. That right there makes me think UFOs don't exist. But I like some of these videos.
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