View Full Version : The Reputation Tracker
Well, it's here. Many MoFos have asked for it, and after putting it off for some time, I've finally put together the Reputation Tracker (http://www.movieforums.com/community/rep.php).
Now, you can see the last 10 reps you've received, along with the post and thread for which they were received. It also displays your rep totals over the last day/week/month, and the percentage of positive and negative rep you've given.
In keeping with the system's original intentions, however, all rep will remain anonymous.
Also, in the same vein as the "New Comments!" link in the header when there are new comments for you to view, you should see a "New Reputation!" link along the top line when you've received new rep since your last visit.
I do have a few ideas on how to expand this, though I haven't yet decided just how extensive it will become. It may be limited by a) time and b) programming efficiency. But I'll get into all that another time.
For future reference, you can find the link to the Reputation Tracker below the Positive/Negative count totals in your User CP (http://www.movieforums.com/community/usercp.php).
Interesting, all my positive rep has been coming from the movie poster puzzle game as of lately. hmmm Thanks guys!
Yep, that is nice. I caught it by accident, a little bit ago. I'm still hitting User CP, instead of the home page. My poor, little brain. heheh
You sure have been taking the time, to add many nice options. Thanks!
Only two positives.. and one negative. Not bad.
Piddzilla
04-03-07, 08:02 PM
Awesome, Chris!
Pyro Tramp
04-03-07, 08:29 PM
Glad you've got this back up, makes it a lot easier seeing what posts are changing my ratings. Not sure if you're interested Yoda, but one post has +3 in the thread whereas the Tracker says that 4 people have given +
Glad you've got this back up, makes it a lot easier seeing what posts are changing my ratings. Not sure if you're interested Yoda, but one post has +3 in the thread whereas the Tracker says that 4 people have given +
Which post is that? I can double-check, but odds are someone gave it a -1, which would offset one of those listed in the Tracker.
Pyro Tramp
04-03-07, 09:05 PM
Duhh, who's got n00b skillz, i do! Worked out problem, really shouldn't do things like this hungover. Sorry for any inconvenience.
No sweat. :) Glad it's all figured out.
JBriscoe
04-03-07, 11:31 PM
nice!!! this is exactly what I was hoping for....great job yoda!
Tacitus
04-04-07, 09:25 AM
Excellent, Chris. :)
Thursday Next
04-04-07, 04:28 PM
This is quality! :)
Is there a way i can view which posts got me negative rep? As it stands it seems that i can only view recent rep, but all my bad rep must have been a while ago.
I understand if a thing like rep tracker could not be instaled retroactivley, but i was just wondering. I'd like to know which opinions i have that people arent agreeing with. so i can reiterate them... ;)
That's one of the things I'm considering, Zeik. Perhaps a filter to view only positive/negative rep, or else a means to simply view it all, with the latest ones displayed prominently. It'll take a bit of time and thought, though I'll be sure to post any updates or changes in this thread.
How many rep points does it take for one to get an additional green dot? And, How many for a lightsaber?
How many rep points does it take for one to get an additional green dot? And, How many for a lightsaber?
point for each 50, lightsaber for 1,000 I think or 500
...lightsaber for 1,000 I think or 500
I hope 500. I am almost there. If it was 1000 you know how strenuous that is? LOL
must be 500 cause I am lacking 1000.:)
must be 500 cause I am lacking 1000.:)
thank you for helping part dos of my answer
Lennon's explanation is almost correct. I think you get your first greenie with your first 1-2 +reps, and your second after the first 100 or so. Mine switched over at 502, and I'll admit I was totally surprised. I thought I needed more rep or more something. However, I certainly enjoy the coolness of it. Thank you, Yoda.
chet seven
01-27-08, 12:17 AM
what is the main purpose for rep again?
http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=315792
I try to give +rep anytime someone shows effort, knowledge, communication skills, knowledge, enthusiasm, knowledge, heart, knowledge or wit.
I give -rep when somebody is beyond the pale; however, I've only given ONE -rep, and I can't even remember if he/she deserved it anymore.
what is the main purpose for rep again?
Rep is to show how high your standards here are on MoFo. Sometimes unnecessary if you think about it but fun in a way.
I also +rep for sharing. Personal photos, anecdotes, connections to your off-line life all tend to make me think you deserve some love (+rep).
connections to your off-line life all tend to make me think you deserve some love (+rep).
don't go too far now.....:p
No. I don't mean stalking info. I just mean something which makes me realize that you are a REAL PERSON! Plus, you like it here. :)
iluv2viddyfilms
01-27-08, 07:34 PM
I'll have to check this out... checking
what is the main purpose for rep again?
Mainly, to quantify MoFo's collective opinion about posts and threads. This is particularly useful for user reviews (http://www.movieforums.com/reviews/users.html), as it can (eventually) help to sort and rank. And with nearly 700 user reviews already logged, separating insightful reviews from, well, the less insightful ones, would seem to be increasingly useful.
At first, the rep system wasn't used often enough to be terribly useful. But it's grown significantly, and we now see enough rep given on a day-to-day basis that we're now able to implement some interesting features as a result. Finding time for them is, as always, another matter. :)
I've expounded on some of the possibilities in other threads in the past. Some of them require a still greater level of participation, but it's all only a matter of time. The more ratings we get, the more we can do with the data to help people find what they're looking for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fBj2wsimvQ
;)
If someone has red dots instead of green, what does that mean?
If someone has red dots instead of green, what does that mean?
they have a bad reputation.
Lennon's correct; red dots indicate more negative rep than positive rep. Given that most rep is positive, this is rare, but it does happen.
Out of curiousity why have we diverted away from the olde "Yoda is just....wow", "Naisy is respected" and "Django is a wanker" stuff with rep?
Yeah I liked being wow, but wanker sounds awesome too.
r3port3r66
02-27-08, 07:41 PM
I think people get offended. It's like...like someones being a reputist (?)!
Tacitus
02-28-08, 06:16 AM
Yeah I liked being wow, but wanker sounds awesome too.
Ahhh, the joys of having Americans in charge of this site - little words like 'wanker' slip through the filters! :D
This reminds me of something that happened 20-odd years ago - In that little window when Don Johnson was one of the biggest stars on the planet (mad, eh?) he was interviewed via satellite on the UK's biggest talkshow, The Wogan Show.
"I've got a good friend over there and he told me to say a big hello to all you wankers in England!" Quoth The Don, totally unaware that the word he had just uttered is a verb meaning 'to, ermmm, pleasure onself'.
The look on Wogan's face was priceless. ;)
r3port3r66
02-28-08, 12:22 PM
You know, I was just giving Yoda a rep point, and I was wondering does Yoda, the owner of this site, need rep points? Well, other than negative. ;)
I admit, I do not. I'd have to post a video of myself kicking a puppy to ever dip below the lightsaber threshold, I suspect. So it's all ego for me at this point -- which still makes it very important, of course. ;)
Pyro Tramp
02-28-08, 01:36 PM
Can you chose to order the member list in order of reputation? I.e. see who has most / least reputation points
Not at the moment, though you can see the top members with the highest rep on the Post Ratings (http://www.movieforums.com/community/ratings.php?) page.
Pyro Tramp
02-28-08, 02:32 PM
Thought so, quite liked it when you could scroll all the members in order of reputation.
Thursday Next
02-28-08, 03:27 PM
Thought so, quite liked it when you could scroll all the members in order of reputation.
You just want to see how near the top you have got ;)
Pyro Tramp
08-09-08, 11:04 PM
Has anyone noticed how much rep the 'Quote of the Day' thread gets?! Goldmine there :eek:
Gonna have to start increasing the ol' general knowledge, or literary, or political etc
Has anyone noticed how much rep the 'Quote of the Day' thread gets?! Goldmine there :eek:
Gonna have to start increasing the ol' general knowledge, or literary, or political etc
Yeah, or just go here (http://www.brainyquote.com/), and copy/paste some real fast. ;)
Seriously, I do love reading through them, and picking what means something to me, and/or relates to my life.
Pyro Tramp
08-09-08, 11:14 PM
I've only posted in there a few times when i've heard something in day-to-day life that's struck me as meaningful.
Thought about C + Ping some but would just be a sly way of rep hunting lol
Used Future
08-09-08, 11:35 PM
^ I post one a day in that thread.
I think seen as it's called quote of the day, that's fair.
but would just be a sly way of rep hunting lol
Well, I seriously doubt you'd be the only one doing them for that. :yup:
That link also has quotes from many actors. Those were some of my favorites.
David Letterman's were a riot. I think I did those elsewhere, though. Yeah, when Viddy wasn't too impressed with his trip to New York. David Letterman has some real good ones for life in New York.
Movie quotes are used, but I've only used one so far.
Cousins - Lloyd Bridges
"You've got only one life to live. You can either make it chicken ****, or chicken salad."
^ I post one a day in that thread.
I think seen as it's called quote of the day, that's fair.
I doubt I post them even once a week, but I shove many in one post to make up for it. :D
The quote thread is cool.
It's my favorite.
I haven't spoken to my wife in years. I didn't want to interrupt her.
Rodney Dangerfield (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/r/rodneydang128200.html)
I shove many in one post to make up for it. :D
Now thats a quote.:)
Tacitus
08-10-08, 07:00 AM
I've only posted in there a few times when i've heard something in day-to-day life that's struck me as meaningful.
Bingo. ;)
As far as rep-farming goes, it's like buying a cute puppy to impress the women. I mean, we've all done that one.
Haven't we? :p
And as you know, us women, even though we KNOW you did it just to impress us, we still decide to be impressed, because...well, why not? Its a little flattering, and the puppy is cute! :p
Rep points all around. :)
Me? I just put the quotes that really impact me into my signature, because there's a story behind every one for me, and I want them front and center at every moment. :D
Pyro Tramp
08-10-08, 08:57 AM
Yeah, wasn't criticising people who post there. Just noticed everytime i look at Post Ratings, the highest repped posts for every day are 90% in the 'Quote of the Day' thread.
Ah, yes, I've finally earned my second dot!
*jumps up and down*
And it's all because I posted in that Quote thread. ;)
Men buy puppies to impress women? :eek:
Has anyone noticed how much rep the 'Quote of the Day' thread gets?! Goldmine there :eek:
Gonna have to start increasing the ol' general knowledge, or literary, or political etc
Aye, it dominates the rep most days. I've already decided that, if rep were to take on a greater relevance, such as in filtering out or highlighting messages, we'd definitely have to exclude the Quote of the Day thread. :laugh:
What does this part mean?
highlighting messages
Dunno yet, to be honest. Could mean adding some border or color to help very highly rated posts stand out, or displaying them on a "Top Posts of the Day" page, or any other way of drawing more attention to the top rated posts.
Austruck
08-10-08, 04:53 PM
Oddly, I started that Quote of the Day thread ONLY to post that original quote (which I've gotten new rep on like crazy the last few days -- what's up wit' dat?). I didn't mean for people to come in and post, well, errr, a quote every day.
I'm happy to see how it's turned into its own life form. Very cool.
Austruck
08-10-08, 04:54 PM
Hey, Yoda, when does someone go from the little green dots to a solid saber (I know this has probably been asked a bunch of times). And at what number spots do new dots get added?
Oddly, I started that Quote of the Day thread ONLY to post that original quote (which I've gotten new rep on like crazy the last few days -- what's up wit' dat?). I didn't mean for people to come in and post, well, errr, a quote every day.
I'm happy to see how it's turned into its own life form. Very cool.
Funny you should mention that! I clicked on the thread, read your quote, repped it, then realized I was on the first page! :blush:
I often do that because the threads around here stay for a long time. I find that a tad unusual and I've often repped a post and then realized it was years old.
Dunno yet, to be honest. Could mean adding some border or color to help very highly rated posts stand out, or displaying them on a "Top Posts of the Day" page, or any other way of drawing more attention to the top rated posts.
I was way off on what I thought you were saying. I thought you were trying to come up with different ways to make certain threads unable to be repped. *What the hell did I just say!?!*
Like some threads don't go to the "This just in" section. So some threads wouldn't be rep . . . able.
I'm gone!
It's new to you, so it shouldn't matter. ;)
You hit the highlights, the light saber, at 500 reps.
Austruck
08-11-08, 12:25 PM
Thanks, Destiny. I'm getting closer to the finish line, then. :) I gotta start posting in threads more than the shoutbox, I guess.
Oh, and not pissing anybody off too. That would help. I might have a tad more trouble with that part....
;)
Does this happen to anyone else?
You sit down and write what you think is a profound and important contribution to this forum, hell, you may even think it's bloody brilliant, you even add pictures for dramatic effect, you click on "That's Good Enough" or "Make it so, #1" (I just love all the little bells and whistles on this forum), and you're feeling rather proud of yourself, only to find that you don't get repped at all for it and you wonder if anyone even read it...
Then, you post some other post that you didn't even think about very much, you come back to the forum later to find you got like 2 or 3 rep points for it!!
UGH!! :o
You know this happens to you, too. ;)
Pyro Tramp
08-13-08, 11:41 AM
Does this happen to anyone else?
You sit down and write what you think is a profound and important contribution to this forum, hell, you may even think it's bloody brilliant, you even add pictures for dramatic effect, you click on "That's Good Enough" or "Make it so, #1" (I just love all the little bells and whistles on this forum), and you're feeling rather proud of yourself, only to find that you don't get repped at all for it and you wonder if anyone even read it...
Then, you post some other post that you didn't even think about very much, you come back to the forum later to find you got like 2 or 3 rep points for it!!
UGH!! :o
You know this happens to you, too. ;)
Yup :)
See, I knew it. ;)
And that post got a rep point! But every one of my posts about Sean Bean is ignored. IGNORED! Is there not one fan of his on this board. Anywhere??? Is there not one??? Huh?
You'll have to forgive me. I'm feeling rather ornery today. I have to return to work on Friday.
Does this happen to anyone else?
You sit down and write what you think is a profound and important contribution to this forum, hell, you may even think it's bloody brilliant, you even add pictures for dramatic effect, you click on "That's Good Enough" or "Make it so, #1" (I just love all the little bells and whistles on this forum), and you're feeling rather proud of yourself, only to find that you don't get repped at all for it and you wonder if anyone even read it...
Then, you post some other post that you didn't even think about very much, you come back to the forum later to find you got like 2 or 3 rep points for it!!
Yes, I'd say it has. Probably for the times I have talked about a movie viewed, and then I copy paste a few quotes, or a joke, and those get hit. The movie reviews weren't read, I'd say. It seems to boil down to what entertains the repper the most, or what they find helpful. In a nut-shell, my reviews sucked, which is why I rarely bother to talk about what I watch.
Then again, I did a review on Limbo along time ago. I asked a question in the review, received three reps, and no reply. I was hoping for a tiny conversation on the movie. It was just a curiosity question. I had to assume that they all read it, but I suppose hitting a rep tab is quicker? A boring question? I dunno. At this stage, I really don't give a *****.
See, I knew it. ;)
And that post got a rep point! But every one of my posts about Sean Bean is ignored. IGNORED! Is there not one fan of his on this board. Anywhere??? Is there not one??? Huh?
You'll have to forgive me. I'm feeling rather ornery today. I have to return to work on Friday.
thought id just say i like the bean,ronin-short but scene stealing,lord of the rings-what can i say best character of fellowship and goldeneye-my favorite bond character.ps can i have some rep for this ha ha ha lol
thought id just say i like the bean,ronin-short but scene stealing,lord of the rings-what can i say best character of fellowship and goldeneye-my favorite bond character.ps can i have some rep for this ha ha ha lol
Of course. :D
The words "scene stealing" nailed it.
Well, as I've been gone and back and gone and back, I kind of got over the rep thing, simply because it has changed and when I came back I was much lower in rep than I remembered! :eek: (I assume due to the change in scoring, etc.)
Then I thought about it, and I wondered - what happens when you reach 500 anyway? If the entire point of everyone posting here is to "get" rep points, then all that means is that people who reach 500 lose motivation to post......as often as they did when they were on a mission for a lightsaber.
So basically. Everyone that WANTS rep points is posting fanatically to drive their points up, or are keeping themselves in that honeymoon stage where they never argue or disagree with anyone else on the forum for fear of getting negative rep points.
Its a bit...unreal. I'm not saying that is WHY everyone is posting, because I think for the most part, we came because we like movies - but it is a thought. However, it IS nice in that it immediately identifies offensive people or people who cant get along with anybody, and/or trolls (e.g. a negative rep indicator showing their negative outweighs their positive), and very popular people, who race through the ranks of rep points in record time.
This is because, if I remember correctly, you have to spread your rep points around rather than being allowed to consecutively give them to one person. If that's still true, a person who is instantly bouyed in rep points is either a really nice and well-liked person, or is often posting in easy rep threads.
More power to ya! :D
If that's still true, a person who is instantly bouyed in rep points is either a really nice and well-liked person, or is often posting in easy rep threads.
or someone who hands out loads of rep. I use to be very strict in how I handed those out. It had to be something that was either really funny, helpful, or something that involved a lot of work, thought, time, etc . . . Holden's threads are a real good example of that. God knows I owe him a hundred more rep, easy (and others). I will/do give them out, once I thoroughly read each thread. Anyway, I never wanted to be repped, because I was tossing them around so easily. That whole "You scratch my back, I'll scratch your's!" thing. Since I've had the saber, I've been a lot more easy going with them. Although, for the most part, I just toss them out more freely when people help me. Say, when they spread the love more evenly on the board.
You know who you are. ;)
p.s.
and no, I didn't bribe people to spread the love. I waited until the end of the grill deal, and repped the hell out of them.
It was like one big thank you! :yup:
Pyro Tramp
08-13-08, 10:20 PM
Once get the Light Saber, my next target is making the all-time Top 10 posters. And i don't think i tend to shy away posting to avoid neg rep, heck somethings i post i know will get negged :)
Once get the Light Saber, my next target is making the all-time Top 10 posters. And i don't think i tend to shy away posting to avoid neg rep, heck somethings i post i know will get negged :)
or even get you banned! :D
Sorry! Teasing!
One day I need to tell you how I misunderstood all of that. It was hilarious as hell, the night I realized what was actually going on. I can be slow at times.
Powdered Water
08-13-08, 10:41 PM
I love the rep system and I hand it out left and right. 99.5% positive too. I rarely give a negative and typically that's reserved for spammers who most likely get banned anyway. I seriously doubt I will ever Neg rep a regular member simply because I disagree with them or don't like their material, I just won't give it a thumbs up is all.
I'm kind of big on the whole free speech thing and so even if I don't like what someone is saying I don't think its necessary to neg rep them. So if you want a bunch of rep just keep posting and I will come along and get to you eventually. Especially if you're close to a saber. I think those are cool and once I notice that you are getting close to one you may see a bunch of little ticks, just because I can. :)
every one of my posts about Sean Bean is ignored. IGNORED! .
Ummm WhoTH is that?
;)
7thson, he is the man that you really wanted to find the treasure:
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r169/OMCSIC/Storage%20Web/National%20Treasure/th_howeAA.jpg
Simply because he's better looking than the other guy. ;)
About reputation, you know, I really love it. I was joking earlier, and to be honest, I think it's such a great way to help posters get to know other posters. Sure, it's nice to get a positive rep, but more than that, it exposes you to other people and it makes you feel comfortable. I really love the comments, too.
I try to give points to different people, and I don't have a set standard. If it's funny, well thought out, or well written, I usually try to give one.
I've been on a few forums and this is the only one that does it. I belong to a Bean fan forum, and I find myself reading a post and looking for a place to give it a rep point but they don't do that there! Years ago, a film forum I was on thought about doing it but they were concerned about the negative rep so they didn't do it. But it seems to work out here great. :)
And Destiny, I wish I knew what you meant by knowing what was "actually going on." *confused*
MadMan_731
08-14-08, 12:12 AM
I'm curious as to how I've apparently received negative rep, but I've never seen who gives it out and what threads I've received it in. Sure I don't really care that much, although I do use rep to see how my posts are noted by others, and if I'm actually contributing anything halfway decent to the board.
I really love the comments, too.
Isnt the comments system AWESOME?? :yup: If I'm blamed for anything, it will probably be for over-commenting. :D
Though I know its getting bad now, because I comment to people, and then I think....OMG. Wouldnt it have been easier if I had just POSTED that comment? :confused: And then I go post the comment, because, well.....if you rely too much on comments if begins to look to everyone (who cant see your many comments) as though you are anti-social and never read/respond to others.
I love the comments system. :)
Too funny, mack! I was just thinking that because I was in a thread where two people responded to me, and so I responded to one in the thread, and then wrote a comment to the other because I didn't want to double post, and then I felt bad because I didn't comment in the thread.
I wonder about that, too. I often read a thread where someone says something to someone and they don't respond, so I wonder if they wrote a comment.
And speaking of that, I wrote a comment to MadMan. ;)
And Destiny, I wish I knew what you meant by knowing what was "actually going on." *confused*
I'll go get those in a minute. Quotes, that is.
I'm curious as to how I've apparently received negative rep, but I've never seen who gives it out and what threads I've received it in. Sure I don't really care that much, although I do use rep to see how my posts are noted by others, and if I'm actually contributing anything halfway decent to the board.
They only use to be anonymous. Are you not seeing them until they are past the last ten that are visible?
In all honesty, I could care less to see what comments I've left others. Also, seeing as how they have probably deleted them, shouldn't that make them disappear on my end as well!?! Anyway, if I were to pick any added option in this section, I would prefer to be able to scroll my reps. Maybe the comments, as well, but for sure the reps. I have come in to more than ten reps being given to me since my last visit, and I never got to know what they were for, or who they were from.
well.....if you rely too much on comments if begins to look to everyone (who cant see your many comments) as though you are anti-social and never read/respond to others.
I love receiving movie suggestions in comment, and they are best used for a little joke, or whatever. One thing I am not a fan of, is when I ask someone a question on the board, and they send me my answer in a comment. Why? Why not reply in the same way that I asked?
Too funny, mack! I was just thinking that because I was in a thread where two people responded to me, and so I responded to one in the thread, and then wrote a comment to the other because I didn't want to double post, and then I felt bad because I didn't comment in the thread.
Me, in this thread, earlier today. I'm double posting to say this, too. ;)
I have come in to more than ten reps being given to me since my last visit, and I never got to know what they were for, or who they were from.
Oh, well, aren't you the lucky one? Some of us don't get 10 at one time.
*green with envy*
;)
So, double posting is okay, eh?
So, double posting is okay, eh?
I don't feel bad when I do it. I've seen others do it. I wouldn't do it a lot, but I won't make sure that I never do it, either. Rufnek does a triple, quad, and then some post, when he gets going. He may be unaware of the multi quote button that's installed on the board. That, or he just doesn't care.
there's a multi quote button?
there's a multi quote button?
Go to each reply that you want to quote, and click that red reply tab, to make it green. It is in between the 'reply' and 'quick reply' tabs on the bottom right of each post. Once you click each of those, then hit reply in the final post that you want to quote, and there you go. They are all in one.
Iroquois
08-14-08, 02:01 AM
I seriously wonder what would happen to everyone's rep count if the Quote of the Day thread was annulled.
With mine, not much. I've done maybe 7-8 posts, I suppose. The most reps per post was 7. That only happened once, I do believe. Normally it's 5-6 reps per post.
OK tramp. I was referring to that naked thread, and Pyro's banning. I saw him say this . . .
"Yeah, i forgot that that actually was sexual, only meant the spinning bit- which is what the site is about, the back bit is purely incidental."
Knowing a bit about him, I immediately thought, "Oh, he must have posted a rave video, and some couple was getting too sexual in the background."
A few days later, Bill posted . . .
"Wait a minute.... spinning meat? I want to know what is that, but I ain't googling that."
Obviously, that deleted my thoughts about someone spinning records. I was like, "Spinning meat . . . spinning meat? . . . spinning??? meat???"
So, unlike Bill, I looked it up. By the time I was done giving it this, :eek: the site informed me that I had been starring at it for too long, and was obviously gay. :p
Tacitus
08-14-08, 07:23 AM
I have a solution...
Only the first two sections of the site should contain posts which are actually 'reppable' in the traditional sense but keep the comments button for all posts. I know I've probably picked up a fair few hundred points from the Miscellaneous Chat section so could well be accused of being a turkey voting for Christmas but what is the point of rep in this Web 2.0 soon-to-be post Bush MoFo?
Is it to give new members an idea of who's opinions carry some weight about movies? Surely this would add more weight to the ranking system?
Oh, and I'd do away with negative reps altogether now - if you're even half a regular member here you know who the (mercifully few) nitwits are. If an individual post is tickling your ire then why not enlighten the poster in public, for the sake of debate 'n all. ;)
If they're blatantly trolling/spamming then enlighten a Mod.
I know that there are hundreds of posts and, indeed, threads which aren't movie-related and are of high quality so, I dunno, there might be an alternative (non-ranked but reflected beside a username) touchy-feely Nobel Laureate type award. Hugs or something girly? ;D
Question: Are we not men? Answer: We are MoFo!
Pyro Tramp
08-14-08, 10:15 AM
Yeah, now jrs has gone don't need to be having the neg rep.
With the 'Quote of the Day' thread i was thinking would be interesting to, instead of having rep points work there, have the Quote with the most hits each day get automatically put on the front page. That way it really is the Quote of the Day and there's still incentive to post (for those who do it for credit lol).
The Quote of the Day thread is habit forming.
I look forward to it each day.
I have always enjoyed quotes, so it's perfect for me to go there.
It's nice to read the quotes members have posted.
It gives me a chance to think about them too.
Rep has very few if any down sides.
I freely disperse it.
It's like a barbecue.
It feels good to share it.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/bicepless/06160629.jpg?t=1218725518
I have a solution...
Only the first two sections of the site should contain posts which are actually 'reppable' in the traditional sense but keep the comments button for all posts. I know I've probably picked up a fair few hundred points from the Miscellaneous Chat section so could well be accused of being a turkey voting for Christmas but what is the point of rep in this Web 2.0 soon-to-be post Bush MoFo?
I tell you what, if I was still taking hours upon hours of my time to make those games, this idea would have me urked.
Is it to give new members an idea of who's opinions carry some weight about movies? Surely this would add more weight to the ranking system?
If a new member can't tell who that is, in a day or two of posting, they haven't been reading the board.
I know that there are hundreds of posts and, indeed, threads which aren't movie-related and are of high quality so, I dunno, there might be an alternative (non-ranked but reflected beside a username) touchy-feely Nobel Laureate type award. Hugs or something girly? ;D
If it's really bugging some of you, then why not keep it simple. Instead of altering the board, and/or the rep system, simply ask them to lighten up on repping the quotes?!?
Question: Are we not men?
Last time checked . . . nope!
Austruck
08-14-08, 01:24 PM
Hey, even eBay just got rid of negative rep from sellers to buyers! That was news to me recently -- and it makes sense. I can't tell you the times folks I know got negative rep from sellers because they left negative rep on an item they bought. Most sellers would purposely wait till you repped them until they'd rep you back -- just to hold that over your head and almost force you to positive-rep them.
Aaaanyway, yeah, sometimes the negative rep is annoying. I have very little, but sometimes they're just because someone doesn't agree with my opinion, even if it was cogently expressed and courteous. ??
Hey, even eBay just got rid of negative rep from sellers to buyers! That was news to me recently -- and it makes sense. I can't tell you the times folks I know got negative rep from sellers because they left negative rep on an item they bought. Most sellers would purposely wait till you repped them until they'd rep you back -- just to hold that over your head and almost force you to positive-rep them.
Aaaanyway, yeah, sometimes the negative rep is annoying. I have very little, but sometimes they're just because someone doesn't agree with my opinion, even if it was cogently expressed and courteous. ??
That's great news about ebay. I'm with you, that was stupid. I was afraid to ever really be honest about a seller for fear they would negative rep me.
I've only given out two negative reps and I apologized later for one of them. :laugh:
"
A few days later, Bill posted . . .
"Wait a minute.... spinning meat? I want to know what is that, but I ain't googling that."
Obviously, that deleted my thoughts about someone spinning records. I was like, "Spinning meat . . . spinning meat? . . . spinning??? meat???"
So, unlike Bill, I looked it up. By the time I was done giving it this, :eek: the site informed me that I had been starring at it for too long, and was obviously gay. :p
Woops, heh, sorry. :p
Tacitus
08-15-08, 05:52 AM
I tell you what, if I was still taking hours upon hours of my time to make those games, this idea would have me urked.
Movie game - Movie section, simple as that. It's the same as the Movie Tab thread - some threads would need moved around. I'm really not a 'quiz' person so have no idea how much rep those threads attract. If I touched a nerve I apologise - I didn't mean to denigrate the work done by anyone in setting them up. :)
If a new member can't tell who that is, in a day or two of posting, they haven't been reading the board.What, then, is the point of rep that couldn't be accomplished by the (private) comment button? If it's become nothing more than en ego-massaging E-penis I don't think that was Chris's original intention.
If it's to indicate via the Post ratings section what posts and posters are most appreciated on a Movie site then I think it's sensible to have some distinction in the way that this appreciation is logged. MoFo, in my opinion, succeeds because, first and foremost, there is a collection of great people here and I wouldn't want that to go unnoticed. Hence my second suggestion.
If it's really bugging some of you, then why not keep it simple. Instead of altering the board, and/or the rep system, simply ask them to lighten up on repping the quotes?!?It's not bugging me in the slightest - some of the earlier posts got me thinking, that's all. I know personally that I stopped posting regularly in the Quotes section months ago. I'd be a liar if I said that this was the reason (maybe I just got bored) but something must have sparked it, I dunno.
Last time checked . . . nope!Exactly! We are MoFo!
Used Future
08-15-08, 08:30 AM
Personally I don't think the rep system works well at all. A lot of people just don't give rep, even when they've clearly enjoyed/agreed with a post. They're either unaware of it, or are just too mean. There's also a 'I'll rep you, if you rep me' culture happening. People who buddy up on the site are just giving reputation to each other regardless of quality. Someone could've been posting garbage on this site for five years, but still have a full rep bar, it's nonsense. I received a message from someone saying, 'remember, the more rep you give, the more you get'. What a crock, so in other words, 'you rep me first, then I'll rep you back'. I'm sorry but that's b******t.
I think reputation points are clearly part of this site's addiction factor, hence their use. As Tacitus said they're ego forming, people are desperate for a 'lightsabre', but when you consider the above it really doesn't mean much.
Now I'm starting to feel guilty because I posted in the 'Quote of the day' thread. I really enjoy that thread, I love reading the quotes, and like to contribute my own favourites. I certainly don't do it as a sly way of rep hunting. When I read some of the cynical comments about posting there, it just smacks of mean spirited smugness. After all, most of the people complaining about it already have 'lightsabres'.
To sum up my thoughts, rep points just inject a needless class system into what is supposed to be fun. They can be used for good, but the possibility for abuse is massive. I think Groovy Moovie perfectly illustrated this point when he gave Holden Pike over a hundred negative reps, just because he didn't like him. Yes it's good to know who the most respected MoFos are. But I think people are perfectly capable of making up their own minds on who is posting quality stuff simply by reading through the threads.
This is a tough issue. I like that you guys are tossing ideas around and discussing this, but to those of you who are, eh, a little upset about any of this, I'd like you to consider the fact that I've fiddled with the rep system endlessly, but it's proved impossible to please everyone.
Personally I don't think the rep system works well at all. A lot of people just don't give rep, even when they've clearly enjoyed/agreed with a post. They're either unaware of it, or are just too mean. There's also a 'I'll rep you, if you rep me' culture happening. People who buddy up on the site are just giving reputation to each other regardless of quality. Someone could've been posting garbage on this site for five years, but still have a full rep bar, it's nonsense. I received a message from someone saying, 'remember, the more rep you give, the more you get'. What a crock, so in other words, 'you rep me first, then I'll rep you back'. I'm sorry but that's b******t.
Whoever said that to you does not share my idea of what the reputation system is for, but I think you may be extrapolating that one person's comment out onto the community as a whole. I don't give engage in any sort of rep-for-rep culture, and I think lots of other regulars don't, either. I'm sure some do, but I do not believe it's the norm.
Also, I have to take issue with the idea that "Someone could've been posting garbage on this site for five years, but still have a full rep bar." I honestly can't think of a single instance of this happening. There are a few users who have a lot of rep because they are friendly, polite, and make a point to welcome new users, but that's about it. It's true that if you're a solid member of the community and stick around, you'll get a lot of rep after awhile. But you won't get it by posting "garbage."
I think reputation points are clearly part of this site's addiction factor, hence their use. As Tacitus said they're ego forming, people are desperate for a 'lightsabre', but when you consider the above it really doesn't mean much.
Now I'm starting to feel guilty because I posted in the 'Quote of the day' thread. I really enjoy that thread, I love reading the quotes, and like to contribute my own favourites. I certainly don't do it as a sly way of rep hunting. When I read some of the cynical comments about posting there, it just smacks of mean spirited smugness. After all, most of the people complaining about it already have 'lightsabres'.
I'm not sure what comments are supposed to have been "cynical." Pyro was actually very light-hearted when he pointed out how the rep flies around in there. And that, to me, is the key: noticing rep, but not taking it too seriously.
To sum up my thoughts, rep points just inject a needless class system into what is supposed to be fun.
Most people use the system without too much turmoil, so I think it IS fun, for the most part. And I think calling it a class system is a vast overstatement. To each their own, though.
Anyway, before the rep system we had people saying similar things about post counts. Big posts counts were the main form of status, and people would post with an eye towards quantity rather than quality. We tried lots of different things to combat this; not incrementing post counts in certain forums, introducing The Shoutbox to handle little random asides, etc. But nothing worked quite so well on this front as the introduction of the reputation system. Though we can't objectively quantify these sorts of things, I sit at a pretty good vantage point, and feel confident in saying that the rep system is probably responsible for an uptick in post quality (and more user reviews) over the last couple years.
Or, to paraphrase Winston Churchill: the rep system is the worst form of rating users, except for all the others. Removing the system will not stop the problems of "class" or status, it will simply shift them onto other things, like post counts. The only way to avoid these problems altogether is to remove any trace of individuality or tenure.
They can be used for good, but the possibility for abuse is massive. I think Groovy Moovie perfectly illustrated this point when he gave Holden Pike over a hundred negative reps, just because he didn't like him.
That was reported, and the rep was removed. The possibility for abuse is no more massive than it is in the fact that people can post at all; we keep an eye out, people report things, and we deal with them.
Yes it's good to know who the most respected MoFos are. But I think people are perfectly capable of making up their own minds on who is posting quality stuff simply by reading through the threads.
I agree. But two things come to mind in response: first, that anyone who can make up their own minds to determine these things themselves can also make up their own mind to simply disregard or ignore the system, so it shouldn't be a problem for them.
The second is that the rep system exists for the people who use it, too. I think users like having something to show for all their time here, and understandably so. Think of any major award: you don't just give it to show the world who won, but to reward the person who earned it. Rep's like that: it quantifies certain things for everyone to see and, in a small way, rewards users for their contributions, too.
Of course, I expect to get a lot of rep for this post, so I'm a bit biased.
Used Future
08-15-08, 03:24 PM
^ Looks like we'll just have to agree to disagree then.
Personally I couldn't care less if I never received a rep point ever again.
christine
08-15-08, 03:34 PM
Go to each reply that you want to quote, and click that red reply tab, to make it green. It is in between the 'reply' and 'quick reply' tabs on the bottom right of each post. Once you click each of those, then hit reply in the final post that you want to quote, and there you go. They are all in one.
Thanks! I didn't know that :)
thebest
08-15-08, 03:37 PM
I was gonna give him rep for that, but I'm gonna wait till he gives me some.
But really I enjoy the rep system now that I know I can't just neg somebody cuz they disagree with me, or use their precious logic to express themselves, as opposed to the kickass expletives we kids utilise to avoid getting clatterfocked by the censor.
Now, when somebody acts like a tool, I can just neg my pain away.And everytime I get a shiny new blob, I get a special feeling deep in the cockles, maybe even the sub-cockles, of my heart.
Tacitus
08-15-08, 03:44 PM
I think the system we have now is the best it has been, that's for sure. My post was just a collection of thoughts that I came up with, literally, in the bath after I'd read about Quoteofthedaygate. If scrutinised it'd probably be even more fraught with problems than a swimsuit competition in Baghdad.
When I first joined a single click from a high-powered user could make or break a new member's perceived standing and when it went anonymous it brought out the petty-minded sorts who'd fling negs around just because you dared express a view on a film that differed from their own - where are they now, eh? Spineless lot. :p
Young Mr Future - Whoever came up with the 'you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours' thing needs, frankly, taken out the back and doctored. I think it might have coloured your thoughts on the whole process, though.
No system is perfect (apart from mine, which is approaching Maggie Cheung in its perfectness, if I do say so myself ;D) and it's probably better to work with it rather than fight against it.
When in MoFome, do as the ... ermmm .... MoFans (?) do. ;)
Used Future
08-15-08, 04:12 PM
Tacitus -Young Mr Future :rolleyes:
Tacitus - it's probably better to work with it rather than fight against it.I'm not fighting against anything, I'm simply voicing my opinion.
I don't make trouble on this site, and will continue to positive rep intelligent posts when and where I see fit. Plus I don't, and will never give out negative rep, I simply ignore idiot posts.
If I touched a nerve I apologise - I didn't mean to denigrate the work done by anyone in setting them up. :)
You didn't, hun. I almost put this ;) in there, so you wouldn't think that I was bothered, but in all honesty people, I hate smilies. I love you, Nebs! You're an angel. I hate smilies. When I first got on-line, yeeeeears ago, people nagged me to use them, so they would know that I was just teasing. When I'm mad, I swear. Always have. Always will. If I'm not cursing you, more than likely, I'm good.
The thing with the games, and I've always assumed this, is that unless people make them, namely that video clip game, then they wouldn't have any idea of the time involved. So I over-look the fact that most members don't know this. A quick math problem. Between the number of games made, and the hours spent making them, it totals 162 hours. So no, getting repped for that, really isn't something bad. I made them because I like doing things for people. Nice people, that is. hehe I hoped they would enjoy them. I then did the grill threads, and now I make avatars. All of this is in the bottom section. When they 'thank' me, it's a sign of appreciation for my time spent.
Don't take that as a sign to rep me, people. Wait until I do something amazing.
What, then, is the point of rep that couldn't be accomplished by the (private) comment button? If it's become nothing more than en ego-massaging E-penis I don't think that was Chris's original intention.
I'm not sure what you're asking me here. I'm not against it. I like the way you describe things, though.
To me, rep is exactly what it says when you click it. Well, the plus one, anyway. "Thank you!" Thank you for making me laugh, sticking up for me, helping me out, educating me in movies, etc . . .
With the quotes, I rarely rep there. In all honesty, I rarely ever read them. I usually just read the last page or two, when I go to add some of my own to the thread. Then I only rep the ones that mean something to me, my life.
If it's to indicate via the Post ratings section what posts and posters are most appreciated on a Movie site then I think it's sensible to have some distinction in the way that this appreciation is logged. MoFo, in my opinion, succeeds because, first and foremost, there is a collection of great people here and I wouldn't want that to go unnoticed. Hence my second suggestion.
Yes, but Yoda's idea is better, in my opinion. You wanted to delete entire sections, as far as all of them being able to be repped. I don't think that's right, to judge what every last thing in that area is worth, to every last member on the board. Yoda's idea was to simply eliminate them from that rating thing he spoke of. Where the top repped posts of the day will show up on the main page. Quotes can still be repped, but they won't show up in there. They won't be marked as important.
Exactly! We are MoFo!
That should be on a T-shirt.
I received a message from someone saying, 'remember, the more rep you give, the more you get.'
Hello! I said that that was a secret!
Of course, I expect to get a lot of rep for this post, so I'm a bit biased.
Talk about begging for attention! ;) <- Joke!
Personally I couldn't care less if I never received a rep point ever again.
I have read that a hundred times now. I'm feeling pretty sure that that's a double negative, which means you care. ;) <- Still joking!
Thanks! I didn't know that.
You're welcome!
But really I enjoy the rep system now that I know I can't just neg somebody cuz they disagree with me, or use their precious logic to express themselves, as opposed to the kickass expletives we kids utilise to avoid getting clatterfocked by the censor.
I think that they can negative rep you for your opinion, although the bulk of us don't agree with that idea. As far as the rest of what you said goes, I sure wish I new what that was. hehe
Whoever came up with the 'you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours' thing needs, frankly, taken out the back and doctored. I think it might have coloured your thoughts on the whole process, though.
I'm not fighting against anything, I'm simply voicing my opinion.
I agree. I don't think that he is doing anything more than expressing his opinion. That, and he assumed that what he was told about the back-scratching, was more-so true than not.
I also implied that, a few posts back. I still do assume it. I hardly believe that the bulk of the rep handed out on this board is for favor, but there is some of that going on. There has to be.
I was gone all day, and feel like gabbing. Can you tell?!?
Pyro Tramp
08-16-08, 02:46 AM
Personally I don't think the rep system works well at all. A lot of people just don't give rep, even when they've clearly enjoyed/agreed with a post. They're either unaware of it, or are just too mean. There's also a 'I'll rep you, if you rep me' culture happening. People who buddy up on the site are just giving reputation to each other regardless of quality. Someone could've been posting garbage on this site for five years, but still have a full rep bar, it's nonsense. I received a message from someone saying, 'remember, the more rep you give, the more you get'. What a crock, so in other words, 'you rep me first, then I'll rep you back'. I'm sorry but that's b******t.
Was gonna leave this in a comment but was getting too long so thought just post it anyway. Think it was me that may have said the 'more you give, more you get' thing, wasn't trying to be a rep whore, was trying to welcome you in (and was repping your reviews before you saying that). Think most new users don't tend to be aware of the system so thought it might help get your name around as obviously you're an intelligent member with lots to offer and having people see you rep them might lead to getting more noticed. I was enjoying your reviews and Top 100 and would rep with or without any rep you do or don't give me. Also i wasn't trying to rep all your posts in attempt to get some from you so not sure where you get the idea people aren't repping on quality of the posts. You can see daily the posts that are getting rep. And, personally i like receiving rep. I put a lot of time and effort into My Top Movie list (as i'm sure you did) and although i do it so i can look at it and my thoughts nicely presented and i can look back on them when they have changed- receiving rep for it is a nice way of knowing it others appreciate it and you for sharing.
I think reputation points are clearly part of this site's addiction factor, hence their use. As Tacitus said they're ego forming, people are desperate for a 'lightsabre', but when you consider the above it really doesn't mean much.
Now I'm starting to feel guilty because I posted in the 'Quote of the day' thread. I really enjoy that thread, I love reading the quotes, and like to contribute my own favourites. I certainly don't do it as a sly way of rep hunting. When I read some of the cynical comments about posting there, it just smacks of mean spirited smugness. After all, most of the people complaining about it already have 'lightsabres'.
Oh dear, not doing too well with you and rep lol :)
The point is was trying to make was the rep system is that this is a movie site and reputation should be related more to that, as frankly anyone can find a quote and paste it in. Which isn't to demean the thread, i enjoy browsing through it now and again, and if i like a Quote i'll rep it. It's an open system and people can give rep to who they like and for what they like. I wasn't trying to single anyone out as rep hunting, i just observed that the highest rated posts daily were from that thread. It wasn't 'smugness' as i've posted there and received rep and if 4 people reading a certain Quote get something from it then fair enough. Though think the rep is more for the Quote itself than the posters knowledge of film or opinions or anything to judge the member on.
To sum up my thoughts, rep points just inject a needless class system into what is supposed to be fun. They can be used for good, but the possibility for abuse is massive. I think Groovy Moovie perfectly illustrated this point when he gave Holden Pike over a hundred negative reps, just because he didn't like him. Yes it's good to know who the most respected MoFos are. But I think people are perfectly capable of making up their own minds on who is posting quality stuff simply by reading through the threads.
I would agree that the rep is an 'addiction' factor but don't think it's a bad thing. Without analysing it too deeply, it gives an incentive for focused and clearer written posts and avoids mindless garbage been throwing back and forth. I don't think a 'class system' is what we have here, most regular users now have lightsabres and many get them for different things (Suspect writes lots of good reviews and Nebbit is always polite and welcoming). Don't think having a lightsabre is indicative of any sort of social tier. And if people with them still have issues with the system, after reaching the top, does that not show the system is still relevant.
As an aside, sorry is post is unfocused or reads bad, been up since 4am driving back from girlfriends on couple hours sleep.
SamsoniteDelilah
08-16-08, 03:12 AM
I like the QOTD going on the opening page. Nice one, Pyro!
I think people's rep should erode when they don't post for ages.
And I think the "gotta give to get" thing is human nature, and indicates your own interest in participating, moreso than any sophomoric trade-off of points.
I like the QOTD going on the opening page. Nice one, Pyro!
Going on the opening page? I'm lost.
I think people's rep should erode when they don't post for ages.
How long is ages, in your book? That may be a tad harsh, depending on why they left.
Pyro Tramp
08-16-08, 03:37 AM
Going on the opening page? I'm lost.
With the 'Quote of the Day' thread i was thinking would be interesting to, instead of having rep points work there, have the Quote with the most hits each day get automatically put on the front page. That way it really is the Quote of the Day and there's still incentive to post (for those who do it for credit lol).
:)
Thanks, sweetie!
I remember reading that the other day. I data-dumped it when I read these posts.
It's a good idea, but those quotes seem to even out, for the most part. Usually they are at 3, 4, 5 . . . reps each, depending on who's been on-line that day. Another sign that those get tossed back, and forth.
Tacitus
08-16-08, 04:57 AM
You didn't, hun. I almost put this ;) in there, so you wouldn't think that I was bothered, but in all honesty people, I hate smilies. I love you, Nebs! You're an angel. I hate smilies. When I first got on-line, yeeeeears ago, people nagged me to use them, so they would know that I was just teasing. When I'm mad, I swear. Always have. Always will. If I'm not cursing you, more than likely, I'm good.
Heh, don't worry about it. I think smilies are useful (a point perfectly interested by the ' :rolleyes: ' a couple of posts above) when you're trying to post in a particular tone of voice, something that can be easily lost when reading paragraph after paragraph.
The thing with the games, and I've always assumed this, is that unless people make them, namely that video clip game, then they wouldn't have any idea of the time involved. So I over-look the fact that most members don't know this. A quick math problem. Between the number of games made, and the hours spent making them, it totals 162 hours. So no, getting repped for that, really isn't something bad. I made them because I like doing things for people. Nice people, that is. hehe I hoped they would enjoy them. I then did the grill threads, and now I make avatars. All of this is in the bottom section. When they 'thank' me, it's a sign of appreciation for my time spent. I feel guilty now for not liking quizzes of any sort where alcohol isn't involved. :blush: To be honest (or Frank, or Brenda) I had assumed that anyone who gave my little suggestion house room would take it as a given that certain threads in the Intermission and Tabs sections were movie related and would therefore need to be still repped in the 'traditional' manner. The vast majority of my movie reviews go in the Movie Tab thread, for instance, and I thank every poor misguided soul who has shown their appreciation.
I'm sure Karl Marx's first draft wasn't without problems either!
Yes, but Yoda's idea is better, in my opinion. You wanted to delete entire sections, as far as all of them being able to be repped. I don't think that's right, to judge what every last thing in that area is worth, to every last member on the board. Yoda's idea was to simply eliminate them from that rating thing he spoke of. Where the top repped posts of the day will show up on the main page. Quotes can still be repped, but they won't show up in there. They won't be marked as important. It might very well be better but it's not as cuddly! You could have Movie Pseud rep and Nice Person rep (as well as Clever Person and Funny Person) depicted by teddy bears and stuff. I recognise that each person's post frame would need to be slightly wider, by a few feet, but who said progress was easy?!?
I'm probably not taking this as seriously as some people would like... ;)
That should be on a T-shirt.As long as I get a cut of the intellectual property rights you could well be on to something. :D
Awww man!! :(
I totally neg repped somebody once for being intentionally mean to me without provocation. I thought long and hard about it, and there was no opinion difference or anything involved whatsoever - just idiocy.
OMG I felt bad about it then, I feel worse now! I didnt mean to hurt anyone's feelings but now I feel like a bad person. :(
*goes and puts self in time-out*
Wait, correct me if I am wrong. Are you saying that someone was picking at you, you neg repped them for it, and now you feel bad for doing that to them?
If so, then girlfriend, we really need to talk. ;)
Tacitus
08-17-08, 05:19 AM
Rep as a kick in the nads - I can deal with that. ;)
It's certainly easier to understand than someone disagreeing with someone else's thesis on a dead auteur...
Powdered Water
08-19-08, 11:19 AM
Isn't there a way to turn the rep system off? Like in your profile somewhere? If not then maybe there could be. If in fact there are those that really don't care for it, they can simply disable it and when I rep them they won't even know or feel obliged in anyway.
That would certainly be do-able, though it would have to be more like "don't show me rep" rather than actually disabling it. Wouldn't be fair if someone can avoid bad rep by, well, just turning it off.
Looks like we might be undergoing some pretty big tweaks here in the coming months. I shall have to ponder this some more, but I do like the "don't show me rep" option for users who don't like worrying about it. Great idea, PW. :)
Powdered Water
08-19-08, 12:00 PM
I live to serve Master Yoda. Now if you could just learn me how to do a one armed handstand while using the Force to pick up rocks, my day will be complete. :D
Pyro Tramp
09-12-08, 06:49 AM
Not about the tracker but has it been considered to change the colour of the sabres after reaching certain amounts of points?
Just added some page navigation links to the Reputation Tracker (http://www.movieforums.com/community/rep.php), so we can see all of the rep we've received, without limitation. Should've done this initially, really, though it's become more important as the rep system's usage has increased. Thanks to harrylime for asking me about this last week, which finally made me get up and do it.
Not about the tracker but has it been considered to change the colour of the sabres after reaching certain amounts of points?
Sorry, guess I never answered this! Not a bad idea, though we'd have to stick to colors that had the same instinctive positive association as green has (obviously something red, orange, or yellow would look negative in this context). But I'm certainly open to the idea. Particularly if Shaft (http://www.movieforums.com/community/glossary.php?glossaryid=79) joins the site and demands a purple one.
TheDOMINATOR
03-16-09, 01:41 PM
Not about the tracker but has it been considered to change the colour of the sabres after reaching certain amounts of points?
Sorry, guess I never answered this! Not a bad idea, though we'd have to stick to colors that had the same instinctive positive association as green has (obviously something red, orange, or yellow would look negative in this context). But I'm certainly open to the idea. Particularly if Shaft (http://www.movieforums.com/community/glossary.php?glossaryid=79) joins the site and demands a purple one.
Agreed; that sounds like an excellent suggestion. Perhaps a nice navy blue color for the next "level up" after green, and a gold (or silver) can be the highest level.
spudracer
03-16-09, 01:44 PM
Perhaps a nice navy blue color for the next "level up" after green, and a gold (or silver) can be the highest level.
I certainly wouldn't want to be a gold "member." :D Sorry, it's corny.
I think different colour sabres would be an awesome idea, maybe just 3 colours and the maybe the gap between segments could get wider so it would take longer to fill the sabre's perhaps?
Iroquois
03-16-09, 02:01 PM
Gold/silver would make a lot more sense (I would also consider introducing a "platinum" level but considering its obvious similarities to silver it would just be confusing - maybe make it ice blue, like the platinum trophies in TimeSplitters 2, or not, I have no idea.)
KasperKristensen
03-16-09, 02:04 PM
Perhaps the green bar could start to glow when your rep points get really high. It would emphasize the 'light saber' thingy. This could work with other colors too, I guess :)
TheDOMINATOR
03-16-09, 02:05 PM
I certainly wouldn't want to be a gold "member." :D Sorry, it's corny.
LOL. Awww, come on! :D ;)
Perhaps the green bar could start to glow when your rep points get really high. It would emphasize the 'light saber' thingy. This could work with other colors too, I guess :)
I like this idea :yup:
It could look very awesome.
spudracer
03-16-09, 02:17 PM
And if your mouse hovers over it you get the wowowowowowow sound...:laugh:
Don't really know what sound I was thinking of there...
It has just become apparent to me that you guys have a wildly inflated view of my capabilities.
Yoda may the force be with you :laugh:
mikeython1
03-16-09, 02:28 PM
It has just become apparent to me that you guys have a wildly inflated view of my capabilities.
Yoda you can do anything if you put you mind to it. Thats what my Mommy tells me. :D
It has just become apparent to me that you guys have a wildly inflated view of my capabilities.
Make mine silver, and then gold. Once I reach the rep maximum, put a gold star at the end of it. I want mine to be a magic wand. Oh, and when people put their cursor on it, to see how many rep points I have, make gold glitters spray across the board.
Can ya!?!
I just want my bar to keep going till it goes off the page.;)
Yoda, why don't you grade on a curve?
Like this, mark f full green bar 5000 points.
4500-4999 nine dots and so on.
Yoda, why don't you grade on a curve?
Like this, mark f full green bar 5000 points.
4500-4999 nine dots and so on.
You're suggesting that we take the highest total as a baseline?
Possible, though it makes any question about the system harder to answer, and would probably fluctuate constantly. Also, to avoid making the calculations too intensive (we can't fetch the latest total every time we load a page), it would have to be updated daily.
Not a bad idea, though I'd want to be sure of its worthwhile-ness before putting in the necessary work. Anyone else have any feelings on this idea?
Austruck
03-18-09, 01:53 PM
Seems as if that means our green bars could be given or taken away at random then, depending on the activity of other people. Not sure I like that idea. Too competitive in some wrong ways.
Couldn't we just perhaps add different COLORED sabers? That is, once we hit 5,000 now, it stays green forever. But what if we could hit 7,500 or 10,000 and get, say, a purple bar or a blue bar (or whatever), to signify some milestone beyond the 5,000 cutoff right now.
If it's not broken, don't fix it. I like the different colors though.
spudracer
03-18-09, 02:02 PM
Here's something I've always wondered, but why don't you signify, by different color, who's moderators and whatnot.
mikeython1
03-18-09, 02:05 PM
Yeah moderators should have something to special to distinguish themselves from the rest. When I first joined it was hard to find out who was a moderator.
Hmm, fine ideas. I'll see about some small distinguishing mark for mods and the like.
Sounds like the differently-colored rep bars idea has a lot of currency. I'll toy around with it and see if I can make some respectable-looking graphics. I wouldn't want to go overboard; maybe just a few different colors. I think we'll definitely be raising the rep required to get the bar, though. Apologies in advance to anyone who might lose one as a result.
spudracer
03-18-09, 02:16 PM
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...and I was so close...:D
Caitlyn
03-18-09, 02:40 PM
This little voice in my head keeps repeating "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"...
I do like the idea of something to distinguish who the mods are though...
Tacitus
03-18-09, 06:49 PM
A recognisable movie-style gif denoting authority?
A sheriff's badge? :D
MovieMan8877445
03-18-09, 07:03 PM
Maybe like make it gold once you get 1000, then blue when you hit 2500, then purple once you hit 5000. They colors could be interchangedable though. So you don't need to have those exact colors, but maybe do something like that.
Dill-man
03-18-09, 08:19 PM
I really like the different colors idea; blue, silver, gold would be the best order in my opinion (though really it doesn't matter).
I like the mod idea too, maybe a different color on their name, or maybe some kinda symbol. That would help a lot. It took my awhile to know who the mods are and I still am not sure.
I like both ideas for mod and colored bars - sounds nice and simple.
Harry Lime
03-18-09, 10:39 PM
I still say let the light saber continue on across the header.
meatwadsprite
03-18-09, 11:47 PM
I think Mark's would run over his post count.
Why not little reward badges for completing milestones or accomplishing something? You know like award or fav ceremonies we had in past: fav mode, avatar, etc. Highest rep on a single post, Even some razzberries would be cool too. Oh well just a thought, wish we could do another fav vote thing again. Kinda like a poll thing like we did before -http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=9112&highlight=awards
Or even with out the little badge things, just do it for fun.
Harry Lime
03-19-09, 12:26 AM
Who was this Django character? The most hated member of all-time or what?
Caitlyn
03-19-09, 12:56 AM
Who was this Django character? The most hated member of all-time or what?
Django was a pain in the backside... but I don't hate him as much as feel sorry for him... on the one hand he was a fairly intelligent person but it didn't take long to figure out he pretty much fit the profile of a sociopath...
He still has a lot of posts lying around on here if anyone cares to read any of them...
Harry Lime
03-19-09, 12:58 AM
Ya, I did a search for his name and found quite a few threads with his name in the title, including one called Mass Ignore: Django, or something like that. I guess there's not really any Django's on this forum these days huh?
Caitlyn
03-19-09, 01:06 AM
Ya, I did a search for his name and found quite a few threads with his name in the title, including one called Mass Ignore: Django, or something like that. I guess there's not really any Django's on this forum these days huh?
There have been a few who started down the same path he did... but they're not tolerated for as long as he was...
Harry Lime
03-19-09, 01:11 AM
The path to the dark side?
spudracer
03-19-09, 08:25 AM
The path to the dark side?
More or less.
Don't wanna get this thread too off-topic, so I'll just say that Django remains the most infamous member in the site's history, but an extremely wide margin. He usually avoided breaking rules and jumped up and down just enough to avoid banning; I think he bothered us for something like a year and a half.
Amusingly, our collective hatred for him united the site. Old members came back and got interested again. It was, in retrospect, kinda hysterical. It was also usually a horrendous waste of time, but it remains one of the more interesting chapters in the MoTome.
Oh, anyway...I'll go hunting around for some decent icons and the like, and play around with the bar colors today, to see what I can come up with. I'm sold on the former, but not as much on the latter just yet, if only because the colors would have to be intuitive. Warm colors are going to feel intuitively negative for these purposes, so we don't have a ton of choices, and there's a fine line between yellow and gold, too.
Tricky stuff...but moderator designation will definitely happen, and we'll definitely be, at the very least, raising the lightsaber rep minimum.
KasperKristensen
03-19-09, 11:22 AM
At least think about the glowing lightsaber :p
Caitlyn
03-19-09, 11:23 AM
For the record, I like the green light sabers... they're easy on the eye....
KasperKristensen
03-19-09, 11:25 AM
And they fit the colour theme of the online icon, username etc...
I like the Moderator icons.
KasperKristensen
03-19-09, 01:49 PM
I like the Moderator icons.
Yeah, I might actually respect your authority from now on :D
Go suck your cinnamon socks!
Glad you dig 'em. I had a few to choose from and though this one looked the best. I fiddled around with the placement, and found that anything which broke up the usual Username-User Title-Rep Bar placement just didn't look right, and I think it stands out a bit more next to the username, anyway (without being overbearing). That was the main thing, other than color/size: standing out, but not too much.
Now...to make it blink excessively... ;D
KasperKristensen
03-19-09, 02:04 PM
Go suck your cinnamon socks!
:rotfl:
Yoda, shouldn't yours say something different. This is your joint, after all.
Caitlyn
03-19-09, 02:04 PM
Aye... me likey the mod icons too... :up:
Eh, seemed silly to have a different one for myself; a little self-aggrandizing, for one. And the important information is still conveyed with the Moderator one.
By the by, I'm going to keep an eye out for other icons, and might fiddle with these ones. The basic size and placement should stay the same, though.
They've shrunk kind of funny! The moderator icons.
*edit*
They are readable now, but it appears you are altering them, so I'll stop posting about it . . .
Yea, I now know who the moderators are.
I never knew before. :up:
For Yoda, except. :D
mikeython1
03-21-09, 05:21 PM
http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv162/mikeython1/untitled.jpg
Yoda this should be yours. :p
meatwadsprite
03-21-09, 05:49 PM
The idea for the colored reps sounds cool.
http://i40.tinypic.com/261zzbq.gif
http://i40.tinypic.com/1zdwsuc.gif
http://i39.tinypic.com/xbz694.gif
KasperKristensen
03-21-09, 05:51 PM
By the way, is it also going to be able to change the color of the dots?
KasperKristensen
03-21-09, 05:52 PM
Which I've got four of, by now :randy:
By the way, is it also going to be able to change the color of the dots?
I think you can get red dots if you try really hard.;)
TheUsualSuspect
03-24-09, 01:39 AM
I hate to be a sour puss but the rep box is messed again. It was fine for a bit, but now the name of the person giving the rep is cut off. So I have no idea who is repping me.
http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv162/mikeython1/untitled.jpg
Yoda this should be yours. :p
I dunno. I think that white box will stretch the pages out too much.
Harry Lime
03-24-09, 03:44 AM
I've noticed that now you can look through all your past rep points instead of just the last 10 or so. Thanks Yoda.
Iroquois
03-24-09, 03:46 AM
^ Me too. Only problem is they don't have names attached to a lot of the old ones - I really want to find out who neg-repped me for posting about Scarface a lot when I first joined.
When we decided to make rep public, we also decided that we couldn't make the change retroactive. Wouldn't be fair to reveal rep that people thought was going to be private when they gave it.
I hate to be a sour puss but the rep box is messed again. It was fine for a bit, but now the name of the person giving the rep is cut off. So I have no idea who is repping me.
I asked you about the side-scrolling issue in the other thread, but I don't think I heard back; has it changed from that point? What browser type and version are you using?
TheUsualSuspect
03-24-09, 11:41 PM
Sorry if I didn't get back.
There is no more side scrolling and I thought the matter was fixed cause I was able to read it all, but now the name of the person repping me is cut off and some of the post, so I have no idea. I'll try and post a screen cap.
EDIT: Here it is (please ignore the google search in the corner)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/layden/Picture1.png
http://www.movieforums.com/community/279Nvb
Aha. The page navigation links aren't supposed to be on the right like that; they're supposed to be on an entirely different line. They're not, hence the rest of the page has to make room for them, hence the container holding the rep is squished.
Thankfully it looks like a Safari-only problem (and there's a different problem altogether on my installation of it; version 3.1.2).
Anyway, I've just included some code that should force the other elements on the page below the page navigation. Let me know if it's fixed on your end.
(please ignore the google search in the corner)
Not on your life. I'm saving this screenshot.
TheUsualSuspect
03-25-09, 01:25 AM
Everything seems fine now.
AND, it was my girlfriend looking up a link for him leaving One Tree Hill.
I swear.
linespalsy
04-14-09, 09:57 AM
Hey Yoda, I just noticed it does something similar to what Usual Suspect experienced on my work computer -- in both IE and Firefox.
See attached image.
:)
Is it IE 6 and Firefox 2? Also, is your screen resolution 1024x768?
Sexy Celebrity
04-15-09, 02:40 PM
Who is Char Michael Murray?
Is that his sister?
Maybe he can tell the future now (you know, char... the medium) that should be interesting... I see him wearing Merlin's hat and Frodo's cape... see... I can do it too!
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