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Yoda
04-26-06, 01:34 PM
Hi,

Okay, this isn't exactly done, and it's probably not the most intuitive thing in the world, but it should give you all a basic idea of how the post ratings are being distributed so far:

http://www.movieforums.com/community/ratings.php

You can find the link under "Miscellaneous" in the "Quick Links" menu above. Feel free to toy around; you can view ratings by day, week, month, all-time, or even choose a specific date. You can also filter by positive or negative ratings.

As you can see, historically about 90% of the ratings are positive, and perhaps not surprisingly, women hold the top three overall rating spots (Cait, Sam, and nebbit). Damn you women and your clearly superior interpersonal relationship skills!

Anyway, this shouldn't be considered totally complete, nor particularly important. I do hope, however, that it'll cause more members to rate more posts (and more often). We were rating about 100 a day as a community at first, but now we're down to 20-30 on a good day. Just remember: this system works better (and I can implement more new features) if more people rate more posts. :)

Feel free to post any questions or comments. I hope you all find it, if not useful, somewhat entertaining.

adidasss
04-26-06, 01:46 PM
coolness...although i wish i could see my ratings...

Yoda
04-26-06, 01:49 PM
coolness...although i wish i could see my ratings...
I'll see if I can toss in a quick "search by user" feature, or maybe throw in a quick rundown for each user in the User CP, or something like that. :)

SamsoniteDelilah
04-26-06, 01:58 PM
Cool! :)
I like that it shows the highest rated posts. Interesting stuff, there.

ash_is_the_gal
04-26-06, 07:00 PM
i find it funny that Holden is on the Highest Rated Users list for both positive and negetive rep. :p

MyRobotSuit
04-26-06, 07:58 PM
Very Groovy. Yeah, Holden is an odd 'un.

Zeiken
04-26-06, 08:42 PM
Holden is on the Highest Rated Users list for...negetive rep.

SHHHH! He'll Hear you...

:p


Nice work Yoda. I would second the movement for a 'search by user' feature, but im afraid it would only dissapoint me terribbly... :(

Tacitus
04-27-06, 02:31 PM
*raises hand*

Please sir!

I've just had a quick squiggle through the new ratings breakdown and noticed some folks with 30 odd reps in one day without a specific post appearing from them in the 'most repped' section.

Does that mean we're still supposed to be retrospectively repping posts? If so then fine but has the barrier been removed where you can only rep a MoFo once, good or bad, then spread some love (or bile) around before repping them again?

If I was a cynical person, which thankfully I'm not, I would sense the possibility of a system being rigged. :)

Yoda
04-27-06, 02:37 PM
*raises hand*

Please sir!

I've just had a quick squiggle through the new ratings breakdown and noticed some folks with 30 odd reps in one day without a specific post appearing from them in the 'most repped' section.

Does that mean we're still supposed to be retrospectively repping posts? If so then fine but has the barrier been removed where you can only rep a MoFo once, good or bad, then spread some love (or bile) around before repping them again?

If I was a cynical person, which thankfully I'm not, I would sense the possibility of a system being rigged. :)
Yes, there is no limit, now, though I may add one. The possibility for rigging does exist, but it's a lot harder to do so now, I think. You only get one point per rating, for example, and you still can't rep yourself, so you'd have to have someone else in on it. And if I want to, I can find out who's repping who, so I think such a scheme would be relatively easy to pick up on.

ash_is_the_gal
04-27-06, 02:37 PM
*I've just had a quick squiggle through the new ratings breakdown and noticed some folks with 30 odd reps in one day without a specific post appearing from them in the 'most repped' section.

thats cause i was online last night and went around specifically repping people for over an hour... :)

Sinny McGuffins
04-27-06, 02:42 PM
So can new users rate posts?

Tacitus
04-27-06, 02:46 PM
Yes, there is no limit, now, though I may add one. The possibility for rigging does exist, but it's a lot harder to do so now, I think. You only get one point per rating, for example, and you still can't rep yourself, so you'd have to have someone else in on it. And if I want to, I can find out who's repping who, so I think such a scheme would be relatively easy to pick up on.

Ahhh good. :)

I was just wondering if someone had a strange mental condition which drove them to offer bizarre favours in return for an appearance on the 'all time' rep list. Imagine two newbies who decided to rep all of each others' posts...

Such a person needs, I'd imagine, gentle psychiatric help. ;)

Yoda
04-27-06, 02:50 PM
So can new users rate posts?
Indeed they can.

Thursday Next
04-27-06, 03:37 PM
I've just had a quick squiggle through the new ratings breakdown and noticed some folks with 30 odd reps in one day without a specific post appearing from them in the 'most repped' section.



Perhaps they got little bits of rep for lots of posts, rather than lots of rep for one post. That could happen. It doesn't mean all 30 of those rep points are necessarily from the same person.

SamsoniteDelilah
04-27-06, 03:45 PM
Perhaps they got little bits of rep for lots of posts, rather than lots of rep for one post. That could happen. It doesn't mean all 30 of those rep points are necessarily from the same person.
If lots of people rep someone for one post, then that post shows up on the Best Liked Posts of the Week thingy. 30+ points in a day for one person who made only a few posts recently, and many of those in "word association" means that one or two people rep'd many of that person's posts that weren't recent.

Tacitus
04-27-06, 03:45 PM
Perhaps they got little bits of rep for lots of posts, rather than lots of rep for one post. That could happen. It doesn't mean all 30 of those rep points are necessarily from the same person.

That was my second paragraph. :)

Thursday Next
04-27-06, 03:49 PM
If lots of people rep someone for one post, then that post shows up on the Best Liked Posts of the Week thingy. 30+ points in a day for one person who made only a few posts recently, and many of those in "word association" means that one or two people rep'd many of that person's posts that weren't recent.

Ah. Yeah, I looked at the day's rep thing and I see what you mean now. Surely people should not be getting rep for word association unless they come up with something *really* clever...

The whole rep thing would make loads more sense if people gave out as much negative rep as positive. Maybe you are all too nice, I negative rep posts all the time....

Yoda
04-27-06, 03:57 PM
The whole rep thing would make loads more sense if people gave out as much negative rep as positive. Maybe you are all too nice, I negative rep posts all the time....
I'd have to agree. As of right now -- old and new posts combined -- about 90% of the total ratings are positive. It may sound odd to want more negative ratings, but I think posts worthy of negative ratings are there, but people just aren't rating them so. Hopefully that'll change. I'd encourgage everyone using the system to negatively rate any posts that are pointless (and there are always quite a few on any forum) or uninsightful, as opposed to only negatively rating posts that are vulgar or rude.

The more accurate and numerous the ratings, the more I can do from a programming standpoint to highlight the best posts.

Thursday Next
04-27-06, 04:09 PM
I have a question....if there are loads of posts with +1/-1 rating (as there must be), what decides which posts go in 'most popular posts' of the day for +/-?

Anonymous Last
04-27-06, 05:02 PM
Can I cash in my points for MoFo loot and purchase a MoFo t-shirt, sticker, back scratcher, mug or ice scraper?

Yoda
04-27-06, 05:03 PM
I have a question....if there are loads of posts with +1/-1 rating (as there must be), what decides which posts go in 'most popular posts' of the day for +/-?
Great question. :) At the moment, it's somewhat random, though in working on a new feature, I came up with an idea:

To break any ties in total rating (and you're right, there usually are ties), I've given an order of preference to each forum on the site. IE: a +2 post in General Movie Discussion is considered better than a +2 post in something less cinema-related, like the Intermission forum. The order is as follows:

Movie Reviews
General Movie Discussion
Actors, Awards & Directors
Upcoming Movies/Sequels
Business/Box Office Discussion
DVD Questions/Information
Movie Forums Site Stuff
Birthdays and Introductions
Games, Tabs & Lists
Intermission: Miscellaneous Chat
Ongoing Tournaments & Brackets
The Television & Music Forum
Down the line, we can have other factors play a role in breaking ties; the time of the post, the post count, length of membership, number of replies in the thread, or even the length of the post itself.

ash_is_the_gal
04-27-06, 05:15 PM
i like that idea Yoda! (oh no... this is a short and pointless post! i better duck the negative rep swat...)

;)

SamsoniteDelilah
04-27-06, 05:49 PM
Looks good, Yods. I'd suggest only putting the Intermission posts after DVD questions, only because Intermission posts that get rep tend to be about current events and take more thought than most posts in the categories currently above there.

SamsoniteDelilah
04-27-06, 08:08 PM
yowza... well, it looks like people are taking your advice. The neg reps are way up, today. I can't bring myself to do it unless a post actually adversely affects my reading the boards though. [/wuss]

John McClane
04-27-06, 08:43 PM
Eww, I feel horrible for giving -57 points. :sick: I can't show my face anymore. I must go into hiding. :) I can't remember the last time I gave a negative. Musta been when I was naive. :)

Thursday Next
04-28-06, 04:40 PM
I have a question....if there are loads of posts with +1/-1 rating (as there must be), what decides which posts go in 'most popular posts' of the day for +/-?

Someone obviously thought it would be funny to answer my question by negative repping my post so it appeared in the least popular posts of the day. That is so not cool :(

Tacitus
04-28-06, 04:48 PM
Someone obviously thought it would be funny to answer my question by negative repping my post so it appeared in the least popular posts of the day. That is so not cool :(

I'd love to think you're joking, but I can well believe it. :rolleyes:

Yoda
05-02-06, 11:54 AM
Looks good, Yods. I'd suggest only putting the Intermission posts after DVD questions, only because Intermission posts that get rep tend to be about current events and take more thought than most posts in the categories currently above there.
That's true, though in this instance the idea is not to encourage thoughtful posts so much as it's to encourage thoughtful posts about movies. Any comments no whether or not this is wise are, of course, welcome.

Sinny McGuffins
05-07-06, 02:15 PM
I think all members should be able to see how many points they have. The most popular and most un-popular members can see theirs, but what about us in-betweeners?

Eyes
05-07-06, 11:36 PM
I think all members should be able to see how many points they have. The most popular and most un-popular members can see theirs, but what about us in-betweeners?

Amen :)

Yoda
05-07-06, 11:51 PM
I'm working on it. Unfortunately the code won't write itself, no matter how much I insist. :)

nebbit
05-16-06, 07:56 AM
As you can see, historically about 90% of the ratings are positive, and perhaps not surprisingly, women hold the top three overall rating spots (Cait, Sam, and nebbit). Damn you women and your clearly superior interpersonal relationship skills!

I feel so honored to up there with you http://bestsmileys.com/numbers/2.gif beautiful women. http://bestsmileys.com/friendly/4.gif.






I was shocked when i saw I was up there, it is just something I never check, love the comments but never worried about the points. :nope: