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SamsoniteDelilah
03-07-06, 03:59 PM
Do you think men should open doors for women?

If you're male, do you open doors for others? If so, whom? Under what circumstances?

If you're female, do you expect doors to be opened for you if there's a man around? Do you not expect it, but think they should? Do you wait for it? Or do you pummel men to the ground who do it and say, "who's the weakling now, asshat?!" before kicking him one last time? Do you open doors for other women?

Anonymous Last
03-07-06, 04:16 PM
Or do you pummel men to the ground who do it and say, "who's the weakling now, asshat?!" before kicking him one last time?

Coooooool! That's who I want to definitely open doors for...

SmegFirk
03-07-06, 04:20 PM
what is an asshat

SamsoniteDelilah
03-07-06, 04:37 PM
what is an asshat
http://ijsm.org/wp-content/asshat.jpg
If you google it, you'll find a few other illustrations. ;)

SmegFirk
03-07-06, 04:38 PM
http://ijsm.org/wp-content/asshat.jpg
If you google it, you'll find a few other illustrations. ;)
I think that is more of a mule

Anyway, I do not wish to hijack so I will answer your question. I do not think I have ever opened a door for anybody else, I have enough trouble opening them for myself:p

ash_is_the_gal
03-07-06, 04:41 PM
i don't. but hey, im used to guys eating off my plate!

Caitlyn
03-07-06, 05:52 PM
Do you think men should open doors for women?

If you're male, do you open doors for others? If so, whom? Under what circumstances?

If you're female, do you expect doors to be opened for you if there's a man around? Do you not expect it, but think they should? Do you wait for it? Or do you pummel men to the ground who do it and say, "who's the weakling now, asshat?!" before kicking him one last time? Do you open doors for other women?


I think it depends on the situation… but personally, I think it just shows good manners to hold the door open for others… regardless of gender… and especially for the elderly… many of them don't have the strength to open some of those heavy doors anymore and it tears me up to see little old ladies and gents struggling with a door that weighs more then they do…

susan
03-07-06, 05:54 PM
i gave up expecting doors to be opened for me...even tho i'm not a fan of it anyway...i can do that myself...
and yes i do open doors for others...men and women

Revenant
03-07-06, 06:06 PM
If I'm opening and door and someone is behind me I will hold it open for them. It's not nice to let it slam in their face. Not over a measly couple of seconds of your time.

Also when I've been out and I'm waiting for someone I usually stand with the door open for other shoppers to go through after all I'm not doing anything else but standing there so I may as well be usefull.

What I don't like is how rude some people can be when you do hold a door open for them. They don't need to say thank you, that's not why I do it, but I don't appreciate the dirty looks I sometimes get. I'm not insulting their ability to open the door I'm simply doing a polite service while I have nothing else to do whilst I'm waiting.

I make no distinction with people.

Twain
03-07-06, 06:25 PM
Do you think men should open doors for women?


No. I'll hold the door open for the next human being, gender doesn't matter. I don't open the car door for my wife, she's not an invalid. There are a few times I can flaunt my masculinity, like opening jars and killing spiders (what was that Woody Allen movie)?

But I have noticed this... there have been many occasions when I've held a door for an older woman or women, and they pass right by without a thank you. Like their entitled to my "service." That's the same mentality some older men have, in reverse.

With more equality at the workplace and the proliferation of gyms and exercise, there's no longer such a physical discrepancy between the sexes. And maybe there never was, with all the manual labor women did in homes, farms and gardens.

So ladies, I love ya, but open your own doors. :D

ash_is_the_gal
03-07-06, 07:25 PM
i don't think its necessary, to be honest. i just think its common courtesy to hold the door for someone behind you, and like someone else said, for older people, or people that have their hands full.

Aniko
03-07-06, 11:23 PM
Do you think men should open doors for women?
That men should open doors....no...but it is awfully nice when it happens. Something as simple as opening a door shows polite manners and respect that is very nice to see in this day and age.


If you're female, do you expect doors to be opened for you if there's a man around? Do you not expect it, but think they should? Do you wait for it? Or do you pummel men to the ground who do it and say, "who's the weakling now, asshat?!" before kicking him one last time? Do you open doors for other women?

This is kind of a two parter for me...

As far as my husband goes...
He does still open doors for me most of the time. I usually don't expect it and reach for the door (except when we go out...I admit I do wait for him to open the door), but he's usually there with a hand to open it. Heck...after 17 years of marriage to a man who can at times can act Ray Romano....I'll take and always appreciate his need to open my doors. :p I know it's not a popular notion and sounds weird...but it's a niceity(sp?) that I've grown to like. And, in turn I do nice things for him as well. Funny how something so small can say alot.

As far as other men...
I don't expect it at all, but I always say thank you when it happens. I also hold the door open for other people as well....it's just the polite thing to do. It's sort of the same thing as seeing someone give up their seat to an old person on the train. It's not expected...but boy is it nice to see when it happens. It's all about consideration and respect towards others.




Nice thread Cindy.

mack
03-07-06, 11:57 PM
Certainly do, but it doesnt happen,and I dont expect it happen. It should happen regardless of gender, depending on what manners you were taught. I hold doors for everyone, and I have never been given a dirty look for doing it.

I think it is noteworthy when people let doors slam in my face. Its incredibly rude.

Wanna feel cherished though? Move to Miami. All of the men there treat you like an angel and the crowd will literally part to let you enter the door/vehicle/elevator first. And they do it for all women. One can get used to being treated like that, and at least you know what to expect: if there is a rush for a door, you know that it will be held for you, you know that if youre the only woman, you are going through it first. There's no weird misunderstanding about it.

Moved back north and had to reacclimate to guys letting doors slam in my face - and I never act stuck-up like they "should" hold the door for me, and I always say thank you (who wouldnt?? Its rude not to! Who raises these people???)

It just goes to show the cultural differences - we dont really value plain old, straifghtforward, not-trying-to-get-a-date-or-impress-my-girlfriend-only gentlemanliness anymore in western culture.

And that's sad.

Ophelia
03-08-06, 05:02 AM
Do you think men should open doors for women?

If you're male, do you open doors for others? If so, whom? Under what circumstances?

If you're female, do you expect doors to be opened for you if there's a man around? Do you not expect it, but think they should? Do you wait for it? Or do you pummel men to the ground who do it and say, "who's the weakling now, asshat?!" before kicking him one last time? Do you open doors for other women?

I hold a door open for anyone, be they male or female, young or old. To me its just basic manners. I will either open the door and let someone through before me, or hold it open for them after I pass through...

I dont expect it but I always appreciate it. Someone is taking time out of their day to make someone elses a bit easier...even if it is just holding open a door.

SpoOkY
03-08-06, 07:08 AM
I do it all the time for my female friends, they certainly don't expect it or anything but a few of them told me they appreciate it...which is nice to know.....it's my mum's influence really; open doors for women, don't start eating until everyone has their food, chew with your mouth closed and even stuff as simple as carrying anything remotely heavy.

I don't see it as some kind of role I have to adopt as a male but people do seem to appreciate it, so why not? I do it whenever I get on a train/bus/tram/anytime. Everytime I do I usually get a warm smile which is nice and worth the effort. Altho it does seem a bit alien nowadays.....I remember opening a door to a restaurant for my friend kirsten and then one of my male friends cut her off and stormed through.....somehow that's just not right in my mind....just my opinion. :)

Anonymous Last
03-08-06, 09:20 AM
I like holding the door for elderly people and parents pushing their big gigantic Tonka truck strollers. I just hate when I do this fifty thousand people try to bum rush their way into the open door that fits the max load of two individuals crossing over.

SpoOkY, you sound very cool and your moms did right by downloading into you those basic courteous habits. I would open the door for you because; well... honestly I'm proud of ya! And just because I’m a guy and you’re a guy and I would open the door for another guy... it will not make us gay.

chicagofrog
03-08-06, 09:53 AM
i do it gladly.
though i stopped doing it in frackin' Germany since the women are mostly feminist viragos who imagine if you hold the door it is to screw them on the spot in the next five minutes... :eek:

gummo
03-08-06, 10:08 AM
Do you think men should open doors for women?

If you're male, do you open doors for others? If so, whom? Under what circumstances?

If you're female, do you expect doors to be opened for you if there's a man around? Do you not expect it, but think they should? Do you wait for it? Or do you pummel men to the ground who do it and say, "who's the weakling now, asshat?!" before kicking him one last time? Do you open doors for other women?

I don't think it should be a rule for men to open doors. They can if they want.

I do not expect doors to be opened for me and I don't wait for it. I don't want my door to be opened for me unless my arms are full. I open doors for people who have their arms full. And I will hold the door open behind me if someone is there, but I don't run up and open the door for someone of able-body. I don't care if people, regardless of gender, open the door for me, I am not wanting it nor waiting for it...it's not a big deal to me.

Anonymous Last
03-08-06, 10:28 AM
though i stopped doing it in frackin' Germany since the women are mostly feminist viragos who imagine if you hold the door it is to screw them on the spot in the next five minutes... :eek:

They must have some kind of wicked swing on those German doors.

Golgot
03-08-06, 10:49 AM
And just because I’m a guy and you’re a guy and I would open the door for another guy... it will not make us gay.

Sounds like a slippery slope to me.

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Just for the record, i always allow women to go first on a slippery slope.

chicagofrog
03-08-06, 11:03 AM
They must have some kind of wicked swing on those German doors.

:rotfl:
it's just that the advantage doors have over German women is they can be hold more often, and it feels better! :p

Anonymous Last
03-08-06, 11:26 AM
Sounds like a slippery slope to me.

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Just for the record, i always allow women to go first on a slippery slope.
It's the yawning vista between two opposite automatic, with a slight hum, trying to get your double dutch jump rope stance when entering the revolving doors that frighten the hee-bee gee-bees out of me and all honestly (please allow me to add...) ...that's the stuff that slippery slopes are made of.

:rotfl:
it's just that the advantage doors have over German women is they can be hold more often, and it feels better! :p
Go on take another swing...just leave those 14 year old doors alone.

chicagofrog
03-08-06, 12:07 PM
Go on take another swing...just leave those 14 year old doors alone.

ok doc, need a therapy?, dreaming of doors, plus, who says it's not them that don't leave me alone?

Sedai
03-08-06, 12:09 PM
Re: Asshats

A mule is an ass, smeg...

From Websters:

Main Entry: 1ass http://m-w.com/images/audio.gif (javascript:popWin('/cgi-bin/audio.pl?ass101wa.wav=ass'))
Pronunciation: 'as
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English assa, probably from Old Irish asan, from Latin asinus
1 : any of several hardy gregarious African or Asian perissodactyl mammals (genus Equus) smaller than the horse and having long ears; especially : an African mammal (E. asinus) that is the ancestor of the donkey : a mule
2 often vulgar : a stupid, obstinate, or perverse person -- often compounded with a preceding adjective <don't be a smart-ass>

As for doors, I hold them open for everybody, regardless of gender.http://m-w.com/images/pixt.gif

Anonymous Last
03-08-06, 12:17 PM
ok doc, need a therapy?
Sure, on the rocks.

dreaming of doors, plus, who says it's not them that don't leave me alone?

Great Scott! (I thought of that because you said doc, sorry.)

Ain't nothin' but the Frog in you....


Your answer should be... I here ya knockin' but you can't come in.

chicagofrog
03-08-06, 12:18 PM
Your answer should be... I here ya knockin' but you can't come in.

so they told me in heaven long ago... :(
;)

SamsoniteDelilah
03-08-06, 01:51 PM
I'll chime in, I reckon.
I hold doors for anyone who's right behind me. And I don't wait for doors to be opened for me.

I appreciate it when a man opens a door for me. I don't expect it, but at the same time, I wouldn't date someone for long who wouldn't do this for me. It's a nicety and if I'm in a romantic relationship with someone, then there should be niceties flying back and forth all the time. That's part of romance, to me... not the opening of doors, specifically, but the free-flowing feeling of taking care of someone and someone taking care of me.

SmegFirk
03-08-06, 05:08 PM
Re: Asshats

A mule is an ass, smeg...

From Websters:

Main Entry: 1ass http://m-w.com/images/audio.gif (http://javascript%3Cimg%20src=%22images/smilies/tongue.gif%22%20border=%220%22%20alt=%22%22%20title=%22Stick%20out%20Tongue%22%20smilieid=%226%22%20/%3EopWin%28%27/cgi-bin/audio.pl?ass101wa.wav=ass%27%29)
Pronunciation: 'as
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English assa, probably from Old Irish asan, from Latin asinus
1 : any of several hardy gregarious African or Asian perissodactyl mammals (genus Equus) smaller than the horse and having long ears; especially : an African mammal (E. asinus) that is the ancestor of the donkey : a mule


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SmegFirk
03-08-06, 05:10 PM
I'll chime in, I reckon.
I hold doors for anyone who's right behind me. And I don't wait for doors to be opened for me.

I appreciate it when a man opens a door for me. I don't expect it, but at the same time, I wouldn't date someone for long who wouldn't do this for me. It's a nicety and if I'm in a romantic relationship with someone, then there should be niceties flying back and forth all the time. That's part of romance, to me... not the opening of doors, specifically, but the free-flowing feeling of taking care of someone and someone taking care of me.
the key to your heart is to open the door

omg that is so deep :p

Tacitus
03-08-06, 07:12 PM
Re: Asshats

A mule is an ass, smeg...

From Websters:

Main Entry: 1ass http://m-w.com/images/audio.gif (javascript:popWin('/cgi-bin/audio.pl?ass101wa.wav=ass'))
Pronunciation: 'as
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English assa, probably from Old Irish asan, from Latin asinus
1 : any of several hardy gregarious African or Asian perissodactyl mammals (genus Equus) smaller than the horse and having long ears; especially : an African mammal (E. asinus) that is the ancestor of the donkey : a mule
2 often vulgar : a stupid, obstinate, or perverse person -- often compounded with a preceding adjective <don't be a smart-ass>

As for doors, I hold them open for everybody, regardless of gender.http://m-w.com/images/pixt.gif


It would have been easier if you'd have just said arse...

Click here for a phonetic example, it's just a .wav file so don't worry. (http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/2079/Jack3.wav) :)

SmegFirk
03-08-06, 09:29 PM
It would have been easier if you'd have just said arse..
The spelling confuses yanks

http://images.google.co.uk/url?q=http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/4766/film/hg/allappre.jpg

Run Away!

SamsoniteDelilah
03-09-06, 01:27 AM
The spelling confuses yanks

http://images.google.co.uk/url?q=http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/4766/film/hg/allappre.jpg

Run Away!
Somebody's cruising for a twig in his spokes...

SmegFirk
03-09-06, 07:23 AM
Somebody's cruising for a twig in his spokes...
kinky

Eyes
03-11-06, 01:59 PM
I generally hold it open for anyone, unless I'm in a genuine hurry

nebbit
03-12-06, 07:18 AM
I don't expect anyone to open a door for me,:nope: it is nice if they do :yup: i do open doors for others :D