View Full Version : GoodBye from PLite!!
PigsnieLite
10-03-01, 04:34 PM
HELLO, heres my last opportumity to waste bandwith, hahaha!! :laugh: Since TWT made it pretty clear that intermission squittels like are no longer welcome here, I haf decided to strike out into the Gweat Unknown & look for a new home where I can squittel as I please. Heehee, sounds kinda racy huh? :)
So Id like to say goodbye to my best buds Sun & Wortle & OG- & Toose & Thmilin & Steve & Spud & Toby & MiteyMoose & Freddie & Anne & Ollie & Laurie & Mad Zweeeeeee & all the other MoFos Ive met. Ive had a great time whit you all & I wish I had talked more to some of you like Anne & Freddie.
My Farewell Sonnet (as ripped off from someone, hahaha! :))
When wert thou born, MoFo dudes?
In pomp & prime of May!
By whom, you rascals were thou Begots?
By TWT, they say.
Tell me who was thy nurse?
Fresh youth in sugard joy!
What was thy meat & dail food?
The movies & Great Annoy!
What lulled thee to thy sleep?
Sweet speech of Pigsnie best.
And where is now thy dwellin place?
In MoFo hearts I rest.
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BYE BYE BYE BYE!!!!!
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Your leaving?!?!!?!?! OMFG! WHY OH WHY?!?!!?:eek:
Sir Toose
10-03-01, 05:02 PM
What are you talking about??? TWT asked you to leave???
Well now I know what started all of this, and honestly I support TWT all the way. This is a movie site afterall, I remember when it didn't even have that Intermission forum. And while I'm totally bummed that Plite is leaving, I agree with TWT. This is a movie site, and that intermisison forum is getting kinda outta hand. Honestly I like reading those threads more than others, but still. It isn't called movieforums.com for nothing. I've suggested something to Chris, and we shall see where that goes, but oh well.
Sucks your going, I'll miss you Plite.:(
Sir Toose
10-03-01, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by OG-
Well now I know what started all of this, and honestly I support TWT all the way. This is a movie site afterall, I remember when it didn't even have that Intermission forum. And while I'm totally bummed that Plite is leaving, I agree with TWT. This is a movie site, and that intermisison forum is getting kinda outta hand. Honestly I like reading those threads more than others, but still. It isn't called movieforums.com for nothing. I've suggested something to Chris, and we shall see where that goes, but oh well.
Sucks your going, I'll miss you Plite.:(
What started it?
Read through this thread:
http://www.movieforums.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1095
PLite, you can't leave! I've barely gotten a chance to know you! I don't pretend to know what's going on, but I'm sure differences can be worked out and no one needs to leave. This makes me really sad...:(
Sir Toose
10-03-01, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by TWTCommish
Read through this thread:
http://www.movieforums.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1095
Hmmm... I read through the thread. I think I failed the test at the end. I got addicted to the unique synergy of the people here, not the content of the site. I have not posted on the other topics nearly as much as I have in intermission... they weren't as interesting at the time. I totally understand where you are coming from though, TWT, it's your baby.
Oh, loved the poem by the way!!;D
spudracer
10-03-01, 08:32 PM
Well TWT is only asking everyone to cut the incessant talking about nothing down to a minimum. Not wantin anyone even PLite to leave, but if that's the only way you can cut your talking down then I bid you farewell. I shall miss thee.
thmilin
10-04-01, 04:31 AM
i've been here since the beginning, dude, and i ain't gonna bail. i'm sure you've noticed i don't post nearly as much as i used to ... this was one of the reasons.
i totally support you in this, chris. there's a difference between being a tight *** and sticking to your vision. as others have said - this IS your vision. i didn't want to be mean to plite before but sometimes i really wanted to say that this show is not his and doesn't need to always be MADE his.
then again, yes, he amuses me, and all of us. he shouldn't have to leave unless he deliberately causes trouble - and i don't think it's quite deliberate, just insensitive/self-absorbed.
if, plite, you can't handle respecting that this is a movie forum and talking more about movies than how cute you are or the amusing random thoughts you have, then no, this is not the forum for you. you just happened to pick this one to make into your stage. but, if you can tone it down, talk more about movies than the usual plite topics, i think things will flourish more in the way of chris's original vision, plus, cut down on useless bandwidth.
a sidenote - other forums i'm in have an option to "close" the thread - after 50 posts the moderator shuts them down, just for the reasons you mentioned. if the topic is hot enough, the topic gets reborn in a new thread (part 2, etc) ... what you could do is reserve the Badger thread for more postings than any other thread on Misc Chat, or, shut down the thread after say, 75 or 100 posts, and there'd be a Badger 1, 2, 3, etc. That way, it'd save us all the hassle of having to load an 800 post thread and saving you bandwidth ...
Well, actually, if it's just going to be broken up into multiple threads, I wouldn't really save bandwidth...because it only loads 20 posts at any one time...but yeah, I can close threads if need be, and I will definitely consider "splitting" threads in the future, or something of the sort. Thanks for the suggestions/support.
El Cootie
10-04-01, 12:00 PM
In defense of PLite--since I am now seeing posts where you considered him insensitive and self-aborbed . . . I wonder why you never told him so . . . while he was still posting here. I felt that you were rather indulgent of him. I thought there was some genuine affection.
I am an old man (a true codger among you) :) but my guess about PLite (my experience coming from a score of children and grandchildren) is that he was unable to stay because he didn't think he could contribute to this site the way you wanted, TWT. He is after all a 15 year old and he is what he is. I don't think he felt that he could change the way he is. He is a gregarious sort and to watch the way he speaks and "acts" in this forum may have been beyond him.
My personal feeling towards PLIte-- I quite loved reading his posts (and I got the same impression from you; I am apparently mistaken). He had so much energy and joy in him. He would debate with you--not getting very far of course, since his interest seemed to have been confined to bodice rippers---and then he's off on another flight of fancy. I think he will grow into a remarkable young man.
I am aware that I only have 3 posts. (Does it affect my credibility as a poster? I hope not.)I am not moved to post very often. I just cannot keep up with you younguns. :) Please do not be angry with me. (Although you are perfectly within your rights.) I just wanted to be frank with you all. I think you have everything to offer the world and then some. You are a bright bunch of young people.
But I had to speak up with some of the less than charitable thoughts.
El Cootie
PS: To Sadesdrk--I thought that was the most ungracious departure I had ever seen on any forum.
Your comments are welcome, El Cootie. Be they positive or negative, they are welcome, so long as they are civil (which they were...very much so). I don't really require that PLite contribute...I mean, this isn't a charity. However, I basically made it clear to PLite that I was making an effort to keep the focus squarely on movies...which of course, is what this site is all about. :) We emailed about it a bit, and he made it clear that he did indeed have a lack of interest when it came to discussing movies with us, and so he's going to look for a place that focuses more on random banter. He admitted that he was here for the Interission Forum...which wasn't my intent. :( I don't mind someone who disagrees, but several forum members have expressed some level of frustration with the clutter and confusion that has ensued as a result.
And yes, I did enjoy reading them...but I didn't enjoy the fact that they were detracting from the real purpose of the site. I just want this to be a place where people can come to talk about movies and videos, and filmmaking in general, while having a few side discussions in the Intermission forum so as to have a place to talk about other things, and get to know each other well, but I think we all agree that the Intermission forum was taking over! :) And yeah, it is enjoyable...but it does kind of muddle the site, so to speak.
In short: I am very fond of PLite. He's a delight to speak with in most situations (no one is perfect), and very amusing overall...but his style and this site just didn't mesh all that well, I suppose. It's a shame, but I think it was inevitable. I do hope that he finds a new place to amuse people, though! :)
Pigsnie
10-04-01, 01:37 PM
El Cootie, I don't know you (although You have a killer username) but you will be in my good books forever. Thank you for defending PLite; I could not have done it better & I even read your post with a tear hanging from my noble nosey. :) And like you, I too am surprised by the seeming venom towards my brother that is now surfacing on this thread --"immature, self-absorbed, disrespectful"-- if you Thmilin & TWT felt he was all this, why the f*** didn't you say so? To pretend a genuine affection for him (which you are doing even now)is completely shameful. Thank you, TWT, Thmilin.
El Cootie, I think PLite would be delighted to know you. He has ever had an affection for old codgers, LOL.
[Edited by Pigsnie on 10-04-2001]
sunfrog
10-04-01, 01:43 PM
Dear El Cootie,
That post was everything I feel at this moment but know I can't put into words as beautifully. Thank you.
I wish that could be my fare thee well speech, can I copy & paste? ;) Yep, I'm moving on too. I failed "the test". The Intermission section is the best part of MoFo and without it this board wouldn't be as successful as it is now and going to be in the future. PLite had a lot to do with that, he's really funny and charming. But you have a good crew now TW, I think the board has enough members now that it can withstand losing some and not be hurt. Once you update (hurry up!) this place will really take off. It's starting to already.
I'm leaving cuz I know myself and my personality. I could stay and write reviews and opinions on "serious" movie stuff but I know that after a while I would get bored. I don't think I can have fun if I... uh.. can't have fun. Lol. Like, I could write a bunch of intellectual, serious stuff about Being John Malkovich but if I can't add that I wish the dog would have gone into his head and then make a story about all the funny things that could have happened that would become boring after a while. That's just me. So I'm leaving for a while. I'll be back after the update. I know you've been working long and hard on it TW, and for me not to come back and see your pride and joy would just be wrong. So fare thee well everyone (including lurkers!), may the movie line always be at your back and your popcorn never be soggy.
Before you go on with those comments, PSenior, I would like to remind you that I don't think I've ever called him self-absorbed, disrespectful, or even mature. And if anyone has hinted to him that this was getting out of hand, it was me. Why do you think he's always taking shots at me for being anal retentive? Would you have had me say something blunt and rude? I do not appreciate some of these assumptions.
Venom? I sure hope that isn't directed at me, because if it is, then you have obviously not read what I've posted. Easily as shameful as the things you accuse me of. I understand that you're going to instinctively rush to defend your younger brother, so I'll assume you made some shotgun judgements there...but that doesn't mean those judgements are to be left un-corrected.
I'm going to summarize my thoughts, and this is the 100% God's honest truth. I swear it: I think PLite is very amusing, and very friendly. I also think he is out of place here...seeing as how he has told me straight-up that he's not interested in talking about movies with us. Now, if you somehow take offense at this, I'd like to know why, because it seems to me there's very little to be upset about concerning that.
Pigsnie
10-04-01, 05:40 PM
No, Commish, you have never called PLite self-absorbed to his face but I can certainly read between the lines. Or am I Assuming again? (You are fond of that word.) And I'd like to see all the many posts where PLite has taken shots at you for your "anal" tendencies. If PLite is anything, he is immensely good-natured & would never hurt anyone unless truly provoked. As for this alleged "hinting" that PLite was getting out of hand, have you ever known hints to work with an everlasting little smiley face next to it? YES, you should have been rude to PLite -- if you had, he would have left this board that much sooner & not wasted your precious limited bandwidth. Thank you.
I see that you're not a very patient man when it comes to these sorts of things. That's a shame, because I'm more than willing to discuss this...but the way you're talking makes it very difficult for me not to become angry. I'll try my best to turn the other cheeck, though.
If you want me to find posts wherein PLite poked fun at me, I can do that. I'd rather not waste time on it, but I can. And yes, he is good-natured...and you know what? I don't care. There's a poll in this forum asking how anal-retentive I am, and some of the votes are unfavorable. Maybe you voted in it, maybe you didn't, but I don't really care about it. In short: I'm not losing sleep over it.
Alleged? Ask anyone here and they'll tell you that I've done everything but bluntly say to tone it down. It's gone beyond hinting, IMO. PLite is 15 years old. As goofy as he might be, he is still perfectly intelligent and capable of taking a hint. And no, even now I don't think it would have been proper to to say anything rude and blunt to him. If I had, I have little doubt you'd be upset over that as well. The smilie face is to soften the blow.
Before you go on any long about venom, I'd like to remind you of some of the things PLite said about me in some of our political discussions. They're a lot worse than what I've said of him. As much as you may love your brother, realize that he is not just some poor child who takes out abuse from everyone.
No, I am not particularly fond of that word, but it sure is appropriate in situations like this. You seem rather fond of sarcasm, and most of your posts seem to ooze with an overall mocking towards me. So be it, I'm not stepping down to that.
If you want to defend certain things, do so logically. PLite knew very well that I was trying to discourage him from such banter. You cannot tell me, with any real honesty, that he did not. However, among accusations and insinuations that I was being uptight, I tried to strike a balance...allowing him to go on with it, all the time implying heavily that he ought to tone it down. What happens as a result? I'm slammed from both sides. Not a nice position to be in.
Now, if you have some beef with me, come out and say it. I don't want to beat around the bush any longer. We have a few simple facts here: PLite, unless he wasn't paying any attention at all, must have known I wanted him to stop, or at least tone it down. In addition, there's no way on earth I've said worse of him than he has said worse of me. It's not even close. So, what's the problem? What have you got against me and this site? Have it out.
spudracer
10-04-01, 06:39 PM
Pigsnie, I have one thing to say to you, and even though I don't know you it's pretty sad that you only come on here to post when it doesn't concern you.
PLite was not even talking about movies anymore, and that was a reason TWT got "anal". I don't know the conversation that was carried on, but if PLite can't simply talk movies more than just talking about anything than there wouldn't be a problem. I don't see what the big deal is. I mean Chris is a good person, and to put this site up for us to come and talk about movies very nice. A simple request was made to cut down on the conversations about nothing, if people can't follow a simple little rule like that then see ya, nice talkin to ya.
I have to admit anything PLite talked about outside of Intermission hardly ever made since, he's a good natured, funny guy, but he just wasn't a mofo lately. If I have to give a reason on this I would say maybe he was just aiming for the 1000, and just talking about anything and everything just so this would happen. That's just an opinion though, I don't even think it's true, but anyways.
As for Kielle, Aranor, Kyra you three are a little bit of a problem in this area as well. I'm not wanting to point fingers, but you three can contribute to other areas of the site, and you have. You are starting to be more chatty in the other areas and I tip my hat to you.
Well, for those that are leaving because TWT is wanting posters to cut down on just chatting then bye bye. I think its a fairly simple request, and I respect it.
I don't even see why there is an arguement? Plite left because it was made clear that non-movie related posts were bringing the site down. He left out of respect for Chris. The people on this site have trashed Chris a hell of alot more than he has EVER trashed ANYONE.
Pigsnie, I've got nothing but respect for you, but why do you just come in here to stand up for your brother? You use to be a regular poster, but now you only come back to protect Plite. You say how great he is, and indeed he is a great guy and one of the greatest I've never met, but let him talk for himself. Oh wait, he already did, so why is there still a debate going on? Point is, Plite was loved here, and wanted here, but he failed a simple test. As obviously several others have. Like I said before, it's not called movieforums.com for nothin!
If you think this is an attack towards you, then maybe it is, but please realize this isn't an attack at Plite, its an attack at all the non-movie related posts/posters that have emerged these days.
Pigsnie
10-04-01, 07:05 PM
Until today, when I have ever defended PLite, OG? Was it at the politics thread? I think not. In fact, I reassured Commish that PLite would return. And I don't believe I am out of line today, considering the unpleasant overtones this thread is now dredging up.
F*cking **** I can't remember where it was, but trust me its there. And no it wasn't the Politics thread. Or maybe it was. It was after the night that you said he went to the breakfast table saying "TWT sucks like a vaccum". Maybe I'm ASSUMING this time, but it seemed like a defense to me.
I think your a cool guy, and I respect you, and you and I have alot of the same views on life/politics(and that you know Eddie Izzard makes you my hero) but this is one point where we differ. Chris owns this site, and he had hinted at this for a long time. And no he didn't hint it to just Plite, he hinted it to everyone. It's a ******* movie site for christs sake. Yes I loved posting in the intermission forum, and recently it has been the heart and soul, but that doesn't mean just because it was becoming more succesful it should be encouraged. I'm pissed Plite left, I'm gonna miss that guy, I was pissed when you stopped posting, and I'm even more pissed Sun left, but thems the brakes.
I don't think your out of line, and I understand perfectly where your comming from, but why is everyone so quick to play the blame game? Non-movie related posting was getting out of hand, and Chris posed a simple question and some people failed, get the **** over it.
thmilin
10-04-01, 08:19 PM
"El Cootie ... Thank you for defending PLite ... . And like you, I too am surprised by the seeming venom towards my brother that is now surfacing on this thread --"immature, self-absorbed, disrespectful"-- if you Thmilin & TWT felt he was all this, why the f*** didn't you say so? To pretend a genuine affection for him (which you are doing even now)is completely shameful. Thank you, TWT, Thmilin. "
Pigsnie, I think you have looked most specifically for the "negatives" in what we have said. Not all things are black in white. With every negative I pointed out you assumed the positives were false. If you wish to discount the words of people whom you bothered to listen to before out of a gut reaction to defend someone you know 24 hrs a day and who's a relative when we know this same person ONLY through the internet and what he chooses to post - I think that's very unfair and closeminded.
i could say that YOU are false for, as others have said, claiming "business", barely posting, and when you do return, it's to discredit the very person that built the site you originally came to and who HAS NOT CHANGED HIS STANCE from the start of your acquaintance to the finish. He never said he disliked PLite, and neither did I. No one's perfect. I'm not perfect. I talk too much when I post. TWT is sometime a tad closeminded. etc etc - but the point of a community is to get along. if someone came on here foul mouthed but intelligent and TWT said - tone it down or get out - i think you'd all support. this is the same issue. i think the fact that he's your bro, P, is why you're not seeing things that way.
If you want to get down to "why didn't you say anything so he wouldn't waste his time on a malicious site that doesn't appreciate his talents" - recall that YOU joined this "vindictive" site first and if you're looking for "proof" of discontent before most recent events -
In the past I have most specifically made it clear that I am 1) shocked when PLite talks maturely about something beyond himself and 2) that he is sometimes "too much" and often frustrates me, always turning things back onto himself. the posts were there. i wrote them and was deliberate about them. i made it clear that i sensed an issue but that i didn't want to be rude or evil to Plite - and the reasoN? because I've more sense and good breeding than to do what you have done here and speak condemingly of people who took the time not only to get to know you, want to know you, talk to you AND your funnily, silly, bright, crazy little brother - your behavior shows that you are no better, for in accusing us of blaming, you are blaming, as well.
I have also made it clear that I always have liked and still like Plite, though I dont' always condone his behavior. I'm sure you dont' condone his behavior all the time to, but are suddenly behaving as if he hasn't done any wrong in the months he's been on here.
another question is, how much "fact" can you talk when you've barely been here these past few months?
it is amusing when someone gets out of hand and HURTS NO ONE OR NO THING in the process. that is why i said I don't think PLite does it deliberately - I surely don't think he's out to steal TWT's show. TWT has been d@mned cooperative and tolerant and waited a very long time to push his envelope because he understands Plite's a good kid, respects both him AND you, wishes to keep us all happy so we can continue to be silly, AND wishes to continue on building the thing that was HIS in the first place.
Plite's behavior is fun, but he needs to run at full throttle. doing so here steals the show's thunder. TWT has made it clear that Plite understands, and agrees he is most interested in chit chat and not in movies. if he cannot tone down his "show" in respect for TWT's show, then, he is not able to be a proper member of this community as it was originally intended. maybe he needs his own website, who knows.
this is so quickly turning into a bitterfest. obviously we disagree on this. at this point, i find PLite much more openminded, though I'd prefer him to stay, than I find you, oh brotherly martyr. i could say i'm offended. i'm not really. more disappointed that you'd take the tack you did. but that paints me as a martyr, and in the end, to each his own - i stick to my guns and still think you've got it wrong.
Originally posted by Pigsnie
Until today, when I have ever defended PLite, OG? Was it at the politics thread? I think not. In fact, I reassured Commish that PLite would return. And I don't believe I am out of line today, considering the unpleasant overtones this thread is now dredging up.
OG- completely disagreed with me on most of those political issues, instead siding with PLite. I'll ask you again: what has caused you to believe that somehow I've spoken worse of PLite than he has of me?
sunfrog
10-04-01, 10:07 PM
Okay Thmilin, you need to stop talking, you're only making things worse for yourself.
Dang, I wanted to go out with class now I'm ruining it.
Thimlin, the only one that understood your intentions when you said the Intermission thread and anyone who posts there is full of crap is you. Cause both me and PL dropped our jaws and hearts to the floor. We were stunned. I mean really stunned. It was worse than anything TW said. TW only said the focus of this website is movies. I can understand him. I know what he's saying. He didn't insult me and say I was full of crap. I think PLite was really hurt by that. If you come over you might see him using caps. Now I read your explanation of what your real intentions were, that's why I'm still talking to you. I was really hurt before. I don't know if P has read it yet. So please don't say any more things while you're angry. You're doing good explaining what you true intentions were.
Attacking PSenior. That's just silly. Why is he posting now? Because you guys are attacking his brother whom he loves duh. (Said with sarcasm) You guys just want to fight because you're all riled up. If someone atttacked someone you love wouldn't you defend them? Of course you would. So enough of attacking PSenior. That's not even what this mess is about, it's just people being full of adrenaline so they attack anything that moves.
OG being pissed at me. Believe me O, I really like it here. I feel like crap. I've been here a year (in 6 more days) and it feels really cool. Like I'm part of helping the site grow. I was really looking forward to the update and maybe doing polls and reviews and games and helping out. All kinds of stuff! Heck, I'm busting a gut keeping from doing a review on Tremors 3, cause I love the series and I know I'm the only one who's seen it. But..the main monsters are called *** blasters, and if you thiink I can do a serious review on a fun movie who's main characters are called *** blasters and rump rockets you don't know me very well. LOL!!! :D
Bandwith. Whew, as long as I'm spewing, here's my take on the bandwith issue. Which is maybe what we should be talking about instead of using our energy to fight.
1. We aren't even close to that point yet. If they do try and charge more money just move to another server. You're good at that TWT, I've been to edevcafe. You know all that kind of stuff.
2. After the update the site will make money. Use the money to buy more bandwidth.
3. You can't have a community without friends. It's natural for people to like each other and be friends. The new board has instant messages things? If you say keep it off the boards use messages, won't those eat up bandwidth too?
4. Limit the Intermission section. Like limit it to no more than 25 distict threads and only 25 posts per thread. After a thread has been locked for more than 1 week archive it. Stuff like that. I'm sure we can think of something better than stop it or get out. This is what we should be talking about instead of fighting. I mean some of you are Chris' friend, and some are PLites. And some like me are friends of both...so let's help us all get along.
In defense of TWT. I've said from the begining, he's the webmaster. It's the old saying, as long as you're living under my roof you'll go by my rules. I still say that. My answer is, ok. I don't want to be serious all the time. I like to have fun. I'm a happy person. I want to keep the Intermission section open and goof and footle as much as I want without worrying about bandwith. (See 4 up above)
In defense of young master P. You all shouldn't be ranting on him so much. He's funny, bright, intelligent, charming, good natured and flat out a great human being. He also knows his stuff. He can rattle off the names of actors and directors, songs and other such movie stuff off the top of his head. Can all of you? I know I can't. Some of you can, but my point is he knows his movie stuff. He does belong here.
Okay, it took me so long to type that I lost my steam. I'm not angry at Thmiln as much as I was when I first started. I'm gonna go rent a movie.
Sun, I don't hate you. I think your awesome, and wish you would stay here. I don't think anyone ever ment that serious posts are all this forum needs. It needs insightful, comical posts. Just not a buttload about nothing, which is what intermission so loving turned into, its just not the focus of the site. Do me a favor, and post the review, it will determine whether i see the movie or not.
Sun: I agree with a lot of that, but I have to somewhat side with Miriam. I don't think she ever said that you were full of crap...I think she said some of you guys were posting crap. That's the difference between saying "you're dumb" and "you did a dumb thing." She obviously enjoys your being here...she likes the person, but doesn't like all they do. Very crucial difference! :)
Thanks for the tips...and yeah, bandwidth is not an issue now. Honestly, bandwidth is the #2 concern. The focus of the site is first...in what nearly amounts to a landslide, actually. But no, it's not inconceivable to imagine the hosting bills going nuts. It's happening to JoBlo...and it can happen to MoFo...but yes, bandwidth is not a huge concern. It's more the focus...which is the only thing that's been on my mind really.
I didn't really attack PSenior...rather, I view it as him attacking us a bit. I'm just trying to refute the things he said, because it just isn't true. If it comes down to PLite against me, PLite has said more mean things, I think. That's just how I see it, though.
As for #3: exactly. That's why this forum was created...we needed a miscellaneous forum...that's why it's staying. I think we just disagree on the specifics of that. I do hope you'll stick around a bit, though. I just want this to be a great movie forum...I know it can be.
Well--my take on it.
I joined Movieforums because I liked movies. I didn't necessarily want to post (You may have noticed that I am not a "gregarious sort" :) and I have a hard time being amusing. ) but I registered just in case. I went to the Movie Threads and it was the usual reviews BUT I saw some damn strange threads. It was Pigsnie's stuff and Sun's and later PLite's. (I agree with SUN. THE 2 Pigsnies know films. Don't ever forget that!)
I can't say I joined MoFo because of them but I can DEFINITELY say that I STAYED because of PLITE, PIGSNIE and SUNFROG.
Being silly and witty and jokey is important to me. There are many movie forums. Full of purists and high-falutin movie critics who can quote every movie line, screenwriter, box office, analyze every scene to the smallest moment, assign a meaning to each tree or color that appears in the picture . . . whatever. Its not what I was looking for.
Now---in the case of movieforums. Your content is the people. The stars in this forum is the people. Not the movies.
I seem to remember reading one of your posts TWT that you were not going to give a "post" credit to a post in INTERMISSION forum--in the new MOFO. Correct me if I'm wrong. I think that's wrong. I know you want the emphasis in MOVIES but don't you think that that would seem like you're negating the Humanity of your Posters? That they don't count if they're goofing off with each other.
That's why I took your Test, TWT. And I have also decided that I don't belong here. I post more in INTERMISSIONS. I think I have posted and started some threads in the movie part but I would be too self-conscious now and wondering whether I should post more here or there or wherever. And I would genuinely miss the posters who have been the subject of these discussions.
ALOHA
GOD BLESS
Why is it wrong? Quite frankly, why should someone's post count matter? It is very common practice to disregard posts in such forums from the total post count. The content is indeed the people: but, more specifically, the content is the people talking about the movies. That's why I started this forum. If you go to a site called "MovieForums.com", you shouldn't be surprised when the owner is trying to get people to talk about movies. :)
I think we have a misunderstand here, though, Wart: I hate the same old movie critic crap as well. But it seems that you, and some of the others here, are taking it to an extreme. It's not as if we have to have tons of chit chat, or none at all. We need a balance. I've said many times that getting to know each other and goofing around is VITAL to this community...but yet people keep echoing that as if I've never said it. If I wanted to go the extreme, I'd delete this forum, but I'm not that foolish. I see it's value...but please see that it CAN go overboard.
See, I admire PLite and Frogman most of all in this scenario. Ironically, even though this all stemmed from PLite, he's cool with it. He told me he understands my reasons and has no problem with them. It's a simple difference of interests. Frogman feels the same way. That's all I'm asking for: for people to recognize why I want to keep the focus on movies. Chat is good, but this is a movie forum. The only people I feel at odds with are the ones who don't see my reasons as making any sense. :(
Anyway, I hope you will return someday Wart. By then, the post counts in the Intermission forum will be turned off. And no, I wouldn't go as far as to say I am taking away their humanity. If a post is essentially equivalent to an IM message like "hey, what's up?" I see nothing wrong with having it not count. We shouldn't be judged by post counts anyway, but unfortunately people do do that sometimes...and as such, they enter posting wars by posting tons of messages in forums like this. It's a shame...but inevitable.
sunfrog
10-05-01, 02:38 AM
Hi, it's me again. I didn't watch my movie. I'm too sad. I made a mistake on #4. After a thread has been locked for a week you should go ahead and delete it. Cause it'll be in the Intermission section so it won't be anything important like a movie review or Oscar predictions, things you'd want to keep so people can read them. It would prolly be about PLites underwear or a poll by me on which actress you'd like to see in a Victoria's Secret catalog. Lol That stuff can be deleted after a while.
Also, here is a link (http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/index.aspx)for you Twt. It'll let you sell MovieForums related clothing and mugs and stuff for free. They make most of the profit but you still get a few bucks and it gives MoFo "bigness", "depth", whatever you webfolks call it. It makes the site look like it has a bigger budget.
Is there such a word as GOL? Giggling out loud? I didn't really laugh, it was more of a giggle.
GOL...I like that. :) Even LOL had to start somewhere. Yeah, I have an account on CafePress already...but they only offer gray and white shirts. :( I've tried desperately to find a good place to have some custom made black-colored shirts with the new MoFo logo on it, but I've had no luck. Bummer! :( If I ever find one, I'll have to get some of you guys some t-shirts. :)
ryanpaige
10-05-01, 02:57 AM
Originally posted by Wart
There are many movie forums. Full of purists and high-falutin movie critics who can quote every movie line, screenwriter, box office, analyze every scene to the smallest moment, assign a meaning to each tree or color that appears in the picture . . . whatever.
I think he's talking about you, Steve N. :)
When did we all become 12 years-old, by the way?
spudracer
10-05-01, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by Wart
I agree with SUN. THE 2 Pigsnies know films. Don't ever forget that!
Alright, if that's the case, why is conversations with PLite commenting about how he looks better than someone in the movie. So if that's knowledge on movies then I must be missing something.
You guys need to realize that this is only a site, and you're only being asked to talk more about movies just because THIS IS A MOVIE SITE!!!! For those of you who are kicking and screaming because you're only being asked to do this GROW UP. For new posters coming here what do you think they're looking for? They're not wanting to know how cute PLite is, or whatever some of the threads that are being started in Intermission, they're wanting to know about MOVIES. How odd is that??? People coming to a movie site to talk about movies is something that I would like to see. There's not too many here that DO talk about movies. Sun, Wart, you both have knowledge on movies and are very helpful in the areas of this site, to leave just because of one person is stupid and childish. TWT runs the site, he was only asking a small favor from PLite and PLite in return CHOSE to leave. So why you people think that TWT kicked him off of here or just flat out asked him to leave is beyond me.
Can't we just go back to posting about movies and leave this behind us. Can't we all just get along!?
Yeah, I think we can get along...but don't look at me...OriginalP is the one who's steamed like a crab here. It's kind of funny really, because PLite himself seems perfectly okay with it all...yet Pigsnie and some of the others are upset on his behalf, it seems.
I don't really care anymore. Go where you may, but I'm going to keep working on this site. The worst thing I can do at this point is let all this nonsense distract me from the goals I've set.
sadesdrk
10-05-01, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by spdrcr
Can't we just go back to posting about movies and leave this behind us. Can't we all just get along!? [/B]I have been faithful to my wanting to get back to movies...and I've been over in the other sites posting.I can't do it by myself.I've seen a couple people doing it(spdrcr,twt,)C'mon...let's go do what we all do best...jonesin' on movies!:D
El Cootie
10-05-01, 12:27 PM
Thmilin and Spdrcr, your posts are too petty to even dignify with an answer. I am very fond of this site. Please stop. You are only serving to polarize this community even further with your antics.
There are many ways to support TWT. This isn't one of them. You are just exacerbating the situation.
TWT,
Once again, I feel compelled to post. I apologize since it seems to matter to some if a forum guest does not post very often.
First of all, I would like to tell you, TWT, that I am profoundly saddened by what is going on in your site. (I read your announcement.)
MY second reason for posting. I will explain why I came to MOVIEFORUMS.
I spend much time in a nursing home. My wife requires constant medical attention. At the nursing home, they have recently installed half a dozen computers to allow patients to cruise the Net. Do you know that your Forum is the most popular site at the home? Do you know why this is?
It is not because of film discussions. It is the people who write them.
I cannot count the times I have heard one of my buddies laugh out loud at PLite and Sunfrog's exchanges, be awed & amused by Pigsnie's utterly unique wit and intellectualism, be absorbed in your political debates with OG and Steve, chuckle at little Freddie's charming gossip about her brother . . . We ourselves have had fights at communal dinner over your differences with the indefatigable Zweedorf.
All this time you thought you were getting traffic because of movies? Perhaps it started out that way. But you have served us better than you thought. With the kind of posters you attracted to this site. How can I make you understand how much more important that is!
I understand your vision, TWT. Truly I do. But what is the use for such a vision when you have no one to share it with.
EL COOTIE
But why must there be some kind of extreme one way or another? Why is it all or nothing? I WANT what you've described, but I don't want only that. I never told PLite to leave...I never asked him to leave, but I did suggest to anyone who would read it that this site is about movies, and if you're not interested in movies, you may be on the wrong forum.
I desperately want to find the correct balance here. I honestly do...and I don't know quite what to think sometimes. I've got some people saying they want more movie talk, and some who call me uptight if I try to keep the focus on film. I just can't win. :(
Honestly, give me your advice. I would genuinely like to hear what you have to say: how do you (and everyone else here, for that matter) think I can keep this a MOVIE forum, while still encouraging the wonderful sense of friendship, humor, and community, that it has had for so long now?
You're right about this "vision" stuff: I wouldn't call it a vision, but regardless of that, my place here is to try to please my visitors. However, If a bunch of people showed up to talk about video games, I would not change the name and focus of the site just for them. That's why I'm distressed: this is still a movie forum, and I'm not going to change that, so how do I deal with this? It's not about me, but at the same time, it's kind of ridiculous to go changing the entire site around (including all the stuff I've got going on behind the scenes) to try to accomodate the changes in the members who post here.
sunfrog
10-05-01, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by spdrcr So if that's knowledge on movies then I must be missing something
Yes, you are. Several things. First, you missed the big fight. You're a little late. Everybody pretty much went to their corners and is sitting there being sad and rethinking their decisions now. :(
Second, Go read some of PL's movie posts. He names actors, and songs and movie dates and unknown facts about director's personal lives etc.. He has a fondness for musicals so what? We all have our favorite genres. He likes foreign films too and knows all about them. I don't think he really needs to be defended on this point, just pointing out what you missed.
I am grown up. I love Plite AND MovieForums, but I gotta stick with my friend. It's like OG I think. Except he's on Twt's side. It sucks. No one thinks TW kicked PLite off. Maybe P does, I don't know. He's feeling something or all this wouldn't be happening that's for sure. It's not just that P's my friend, some things were said in the big fight that were insulting. At first I was like, well I think I'll stay away for a while to show my support for P. I don't want to be serious all the time but I support TW's right to say what goes on on his site. Then pretty much everybody started slinging mud all over and some of it hit me and pissed me off. PLite had just said his goodbyes and left. Me too. He could have come back as Zwee reincarnated and blasted everybody but that's not P. He isn't like that.
Also, I think a lot of the people that left were either also insulted or just want to be with PLite. Everybody loves him, even TW believe it or not. And everybody knows what TW is saying. I think the things that were said during the fight pissed people off more than TW saying, hey the focus is on movies, let's try and get back on track here. (Just paraphrasing)
But mostly I think that we like them both and want to post in both places but we feel like if we post here PL will think we don't like him. And if we post over there TW will think we don't like HIM. SO, I will be the first to post in both places. It makes me really sad to see that MoFo isn't getting the hits is was last week. I really love this site and I don't want it to die out. But I am also going to follow PLite wherever he goes until Pigsnie puts a restraining order on me. :D
sadesdrk
10-05-01, 01:39 PM
This is outrageous.I don't even know what to say.TWT,you have people pulling you in seperate directions.The bottom line,is:You designed a movie forum.People post about movies.You have a seperate site called Intermission.People post about whatever.Both aspects of the this forum...movies &whatever,are important in their own way.Intermission served as a way to learn more about each other...it does that job well,as long as it doesn't get stupid.Which it was.Debating over somebody's cute-ness,wasn't really relative to anything,and it made people frustrated;but that wasn't all.Stupid S*** was going on in a lot of other areas,and it's TWT's job to run this forum as he sees fit!It's our job to respect him,it's his freakin' vision!.That doesn't mean FUN IS OUT...it means,simply,follow some basic freakin' rules.Plite had some funny moments,but sometimes he only aggrevated certian situations by posting totally random,off-the-topic posts.El Cootie-you can't understand the frustration because you're standing back as a spectator...involve yourself,and see how you feel about it then.You're writting as someone entertained by the confusion and frustration the postsers you mentioned,caused.We are talking about how it feels to be on the receiving end of it....wow...this is a huge bottom line...sorry,I'm venting.Shutting up.
Thank you Frogman...I think you've made a good decision all around, even if it does mean less time on this site. As for what Spud said: I think he means that, yes, they may know a lot about film, but they might as well know nothing if they're not interested in talking about it. That's just my guess...he might have meant different.
sadesdrk
10-05-01, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by sunfrog
It makes me really sad to see that MoFo isn't getting the hits is was last week. I really love this site and I don't want it to die out. But I am also going to follow PLite wherever he goes until Pigsnie puts a restraining order on me. :D [/B]Plite leaving isn't going to be the downfall of this site.That would be pretty egotistical to think that one member leaving would bring about the "dying out"of a site.I was going to leave because of frustrations...but I'm staying to support this movie forum...it's the only one worth my efforts.
sunfrog
10-05-01, 02:18 PM
Sade half the people left. There's like seven of us or something, I don't know the exact number. And I just read that Kyra and her friends were leaving too. This is a disaster. I've been here since early on when there was only a handful of posters. I originally stayed on because of TWT btw. :) And I've seen this place grow, it was at the height of it's coolness before the fight. We had serious movie people who know their stuff and great times in the Intermission section. If it could have stayed that way it would have been perfect. I loved it just the way it was. I'm trying to mend things here. I don't want TW to have to start all over again. And I don't want everybody to abandon this site. You're talking about being in the middle of an argument and I'm talking about being in the middle of two friends. Sheese Louise, I wanted to support P, but I didn't want to start a mass exodus. Please don't abondon this site everybody! I will post my funny weird stuff over there and my serious stuff here. That's my plan. I hope everybody does the same. :bawl:
sadesdrk
10-05-01, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by sunfrog
Please don't abondon this site everybody! I will post my funny weird stuff over there and my serious stuff here. That's my plan. I hope everybody does the same. :bawl: I'm staying.No matter what.I don't even care if people don't like me anymore.I'm freakin' staying!!!!
Again: it's not that you can't have fun and be goofy here. I just want it to be primarily a movie site. Really...that's all I'm going for! :) And no, I would not call it a disaster. Kielle and her friends were nice, but they posted rarely, and usually only to chit-chat. I would not call this a disaster at all.
Anyway, I'll win you all over with the new site. :) I have completely poured myself into it...so I think you'll all enjoy it.
spudracer
10-05-01, 03:07 PM
Information about Directors, Movies, Songs, this all can be accessed with little strain of the fingers. I'm not saying PLite doesn't know anything, I'm only saying that when one doesn't know they can search for it. Holden is a good example of this, although full of information uses IMDb to help him out. So what, just because someone is posting information about something doesn't mean they know what they're talking about.
Sun, I am shocked and dismayed that you would side over someone that CHOSE to leave rather than the creator of a place that you visit frequently. Put it this way. God created the Earth for you to live on and enjoy. Along comes this "temptor" if you will and says this is wrong, there's a better place for you out there. I don't know where I'm going with this, and I'm not calling anyone here a temptor just using it as a reference.
This is gonna be my last post in this thread because no matter how many of us try to talk you guys out of leaving or trying to convince you that what you think happened really didn't happen you don't want to listen. So I'm getting back to talking about movies. I hope the rest of you do the same.
God speed
sadesdrk
10-05-01, 03:14 PM
me too.
ryanpaige
10-05-01, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by spdrcr
Holden is a good example of this, although full of information uses IMDb to help him out
I do this, too. While I have a good memory for many things, there's just too much information for any one person to know.
sunfrog
10-05-01, 03:29 PM
Actually, I wish we could talk about the God thing. I have some pretty strange ideas. I often think I should start my own religon. It's not that I don't believe in Him or believe He's wrong like so many people do today, it's just that when I apply my logic to it I get different results than most people. Strange. Hmm.. now I forgot why I started typing.
Oh yeah! Now I remember! Thanks Ryan!
I'm saying PLite knows movies and has the right to be here as much as anyone. It's not like he just wandered in off the street and started being funny. He knows movies AND he's funny.
Btw, TW didn't make this site for me. If you did, thanks TW. :D It was here before I got here. We disagree all the time. He's (bleh)Republican. I don't have to like Pres Bush just 'cause T's the webmaster. I just have to respect TW's wishes about the website, which I'm trying to do.
[Edited by sunfrog on 10-05-2001]
thmilin
10-05-01, 06:54 PM
a long time ago, did we not agree that people should have SOME freedom to speak within this site? as members, that is our right. so I am quite confused when i you tell me, sunfrog:
"Okay Thmilin, you need to stop talking, you're only making things worse for yourself."
"Thimlin, the only one that understood your intentions when you said the Intermission thread and anyone who posts there is full of crap is you."
I DIDN'T SAY THAT!!!!!
I'm sorry, but when someone attacks my character based on things I DID NOT say OR do, I am bound to both defend myself and EXPLAIN myself. I am reading every post each and everyone one of YOU writes on this issue because I want to be exactly sure of what you mean, that I've got it right, that you have your piece because that is what forums are for. If you choose to ignore what I say before I finish, to misquote me and then attack me based on those misconceptions, I can only shrug and try again, and I cannot promise I won't be irritated. You guys seem to have some idea that
1. I hate PLite
2. I hate Original P
etc, etc
Despite all I've said, much like TWT, I keep saying X and everyone keeps discrediting, insulting, ignoring, insisting that I have said "Y"!! And it's very disheartening. So many of my posts straight out SAY that I like PLite!! So why did you and Plite and everyone else go and read what I say and then turn it into THAT evil sh|t when that's not even what I SAID! that's why i had to go and explain things and you STILL have it wrong.
THIS is what I said:
"it is true that a lot of crap has filled this forum. then again, that crap has allowed a lot of us to reveal sides to our personalities that i don't think would otherwise have been revealed, allowing friendships to flourish that might otherwise have not. then again, it's revealed some aspects that aren't so enjoyable - a lot of immaturity and drivel. drivel, as said before, has its place. so long as that place is reserved, and we as a group make a conscious effort to get - and keep - things on track, i think mofo - now or in its reincarnation - will only be an improvement, not a failure. "
it became: "you are all crap, speak crap, and the misc thread is a bunch of crap"
basically, you didn't pay any attention to what i said because you got something else entirely.
those i respected turned around and said "You are all so awful and have made it clear you don't appreciate PLite at all" when that was NOT the case. that completely blew ME and it comes from people I respected. TWT gets that just because someone you like and care about does something you dislike, that does not mean you dislike THEM. But I guess that's what and PLite think. so i bet if you do talk about me at all over there i'm just some godawful b|tch, am I right? and none of the good stuff I've ever said matters anymore, is that what you're saying? enlighten me here, cuz if so, I don't think I deserve that.
And I did not deserve what OriginalP said. I respect and understand where it came from - my other posts most certainly show it - but he was mistaken and acted off ideas he reached after TWISTING what I said. Therefore, HE DESERVED my rebuttal. I wasn't even angry when i wrote it. I still stand by it. If that's what offends you because it was not supportive of someone you like, then say that, rather than:
"Thmilin and Spdrcr, your posts are too petty to even dignify with an answer. I am very fond of this site. Please stop. You are only serving to polarize this community even further with your antics.
There are many ways to support TWT. This isn't one of them. You are just exacerbating the situation. "
El Cootie, you have a right to your opinions and NO ONE HERE WOULD EVER discredit what you have to say or the thought behind them as you have with others here. I respect your right to speak and your words, even though i don't agree with them. And I am hurt that you do not treat other's responses with the same respect. Respect begets respect and a lack of it engenders more.
Sunfrog, I am not fighting for the hell of it. The only thing I wanted to say when this all began was that I saw TWT's point, disliked PLite's behavior, and supported TWT. Then I got attacked for "disliking PLite" and supposedly being two-faced when none of that is true. I am not fighting. I am defending myself. I most certainly did not want to lose P's affection.
I'm not even in complete agreement with spdrcr or everyone else here but that doesn't mean what you all have to say is a bunch of crock. I have NEVER said that what you say doesn't matter, even all the silliness in intermission. There is a logic to everyone's reason no matter how much we may disagree.
I perfectly understand and am touched by how thrilled the people at the home are. I am glad that we have touched their lives and glad that PLite touched so many. I am glad that they have seen some joy from such a strange, charming creature. I never said he wasn't. PLite is a wonderful, funny, brilliant person, just as you all have said, and I never said otherwise. Why else would I flirt with him or give him ownership of my melons?
As for TWT's vision ... I think it's selfish of others to wish that he make it into something else that pleases them at the cost of the original idea.
"How can I make you understand how much more important that is! "
I understand how much you enjoy the banter, and like TWT said - LESS, not NONE. You are all mad because PLite LEFT and it's not like TWT wanted him to go to make NONE. TWT is not and cannot go chasing after PLite to have him come back and reign over the site in order to please all those who joined for the wrong reason in the first place. ANd he, as all of us, can only say a sad farewell to those we got to know who are leaving because they realize it was never movies they really cared that much about here in the first place. Of course I'd rather everyone stayed and an equilibrium could be met ... have PLite stay and all of you enjoy your net entertainment while TWT's vision continues on strong. But it doesn't look like it's going to be that way.
None of you that seem to find me so disgusting seems to have read the post I wrote in Sades' goodbye thread. The whole point about this place is community. That means, if PLite's posts count to you, then so should EVERYONE ELSE's. It's only fair. We are all entitled to our opinions.
People will come and go. But what matters most is the vision - and that is TWT's to do with as he pleases. I will not hate him for choosing to do what he wishes with something that is his in the first place. I do not hate PLite and wish he would stay. But between 24 hr banter and pursuing the movie dream I chose to join in the first place ... the latter wins.
anyway ... what the hell is the URL for PLite and if I go, will you all tell me how awful I am there, too? seems like it, since you say, sunfrog, he'll use caps on me. i want to go, i'm just wary of how i'm going to get treated, since I've been misread so much already. but like TWT, i'm sticking true to my beliefs. otherwise there's no point to my having become a member, or ever having spent any time getting to know and like all of you in the first place. that includes all of you who hate my guts.
sunfrog
10-06-01, 12:38 AM
Hi Thmilin,
Sorry it took me so long to respond. I just now read your post. I believe you, I think it was all an unfortunate misunderstanding. But at the time what we THOUGHT you said really hurt us. It hurt PLite more than me. He hasn't called you any names, he's to classy for that. PLite hasn't called anyone names. What he said in caps was, I can't believe Thmilin said that, I hate girls I'm never going to get married. Stuff like that. You can see the pain in his words. He uses caps to infer he's yelling. He usually only uses caps for emphasis, like when he says SERIOUSLY!
Below I did a little disection of the misunderstaning. The stuff in blue is the bad stuff, the stuff in bold is my comments. I'm not yelling, I'm just setting off the text so it won't blend with the surrounding words.
If you would have used the words "non movie related discussions" instead of the word crap we would have gotten your point and not been insulted. I get your point now. I'm not trying to prove you said something you didn't, I'm just showing you why I was offended.
Originally posted by thmilin
THIS is what I said:
"it is true that a lot of crap has filled this forum. That would be me & PLite and everyone who was a regular in Intermission. then again, that crap has allowed a lot of us to reveal sides to our personalities that i don't think would otherwise have been revealed, This is a normal sentence but the word crap still has negative connotations. allowing friendships to flourish that might otherwise have not. then again, it's revealed some aspects that aren't so enjoyable - a lot of immaturity and drivel. How can immaturity and drivel not be an insult? drivel, as said before, has its place. so long as that place is reserved, and we as a group make a conscious effort to get - and keep - things on track, i think mofo - now or in its reincarnation - will only be an improvement, not a failure. "
When I said you should stop talking I wasn't trying to say "you're just throwing more fuel on the fire" I was trying to say "you should quit while you're ahead" but I find that phrase slightly rude. It sounds like an ultimatum to me and I chose not to use those words on purpose. What I was trying to say was more along the lines of, thank you for clearing that up, i was really hurt, please don't say any more because it might be misconscrewed. This is good like it is, I understand now it was all a misunderstanding.
PS, PLite still lurks here Thim, we all do. If you say something to him he'll read it. He'd like to talk to you El Cootie, I hope you're still out there. You're tops on his list, maybe even above Jude Law! :) Mine too :)
Hate to drop in again, but I thought you'd like to all see what a TRULY strict forum is like:
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi
No polls, except in the polls forum, and a feedback forum that doesn't allow for any venting/complaints, it seems. It gets worse, though...checkout these two quotes, from their Registration page:
The Home Theater Forum requires that all members that sign up to post a message or reply to a message sign up with a real first name. The following page goes over those guidelines.
After reading our guidelines and our notification procedure for giving out a password to use with your username do not email the administration of this board asking us for your password. If you have not received a password with your username within 24 hours of signing up it is because it has not been accepted and no reason will be sent out to you as to why it wasn't accepted. Period.
From the page after that:
You may not sign up as:
- SCOTT or SCOTTRANDALL (we do not permit all capital letters)
- Scott386 (we do not permit numbers in usernames)
- scottrandall (we do not allow all lower case run on usernames)
- scottr or Scottr (we do not allow run ons in a username)
- Randall (we do not allow last names only)
We do not allow nicknames such as:
- HomeTheaterFanatic
- DVDScott
- MetsFan
See what a real tight-a** forum is like? :) I'm pretty loose compared to some. I'm a regular at a forum that no longer allows registration for people under 16 (they may have changed this since, but I hadn't heard so specifically)...they also used to require a minimum age of 18 to Moderate...
PigsnieLite
10-06-01, 09:47 PM
HEY you Spud, I dont know why I called you my Bud becuz you arent. And I haf never looked at at that imdb thingie you keep talkin about -- all I know about movies I keep in my head. And while I may not talk a lot about the movies you guys like, like Pulp fiction or fight Club, I know all the old stuff, Mel Ferrer & Bette Davis & Ralph Richardson & kenzo Mizoguchi & jean Marais. And dont tell me I was the only one postin 'Drivel". The last time i remember, you were pretty good at it yourself.
The evile Temptor
PLite
Ps. OH hi, TWT! :) You didnt mention my sonnet.
Dunno what to say about your sonnet exactly, PLite. :) And don't start a fight, please. I don't think he said you were stupid...I think the point is that it doesn't matter if you know all about it, if you never put it to "use" (IE: if you post about nosies instead. :)). Anyway, I hope this doesn't blow up all over again now.
PigsnieLite
10-06-01, 10:21 PM
Im not startin a fight, I just showed up to refute some of the stuff that pisses me off. Same as you when you show up at the other place, hahaha. :) Anyhoo why should I even mention Jean Marais on this forum when hardly anyones even seen an old French film? Have you? Has anyone? You see my point? How can I use my movie knowhow in a forum where hardly anyone has seen the films I like?
PLite
Maybe you can't...though I imagine you could find a person or two to discuss it with if you wanted to. If you want to know if I agree with you on concerning the notion that you simply don't fit well with this forum's focus and members, though, then yeah, I'd probably agree...which is a real shame. I'm not saying that you were necessarily starting a fight...just reminding you all. :)
Hey, what'd ya think of those forum rules I posted? Now you know what a real tigh-a** forum is like. :)
sunfrog
10-07-01, 12:30 AM
See, how can he not fit? He just demonstrated some of his advanced movie skills right there. :) Hey P, I bet El Cootie and his friends would talk to you about Betty Davis! That would be kind of cool to see actually. We already talk about all kinds of genres, including cartoons! We have cutting edge, foreign, indy, popular, anime, asian cimema, etc... why shouldn't there be classics too?
Originally posted by PigsnieLite
Im not startin a fight, I just showed up to refute some of the stuff that pisses me off. Same as you when you show up at the other place, hahaha. :) Anyhoo why should I even mention Jean Marais on this forum when hardly anyones even seen an old French film? Have you? Has anyone? You see my point? How can I use my movie knowhow in a forum where hardly anyone has seen the films I like?
PLite
I like Jean Marias in Cocteau's Beauty and the Beast.
PLite, you're missed. I hope one day you'll come back and we can talk old french movies all you want. :)
Well, like I said above, I think it's quite possible...but he wants to do more squittling than anything else...and, INEVITABLY, it spills out onto the other forums. But, in all honesty, I'm not going to kick PLite out...ever...unless he starts acting like Zwee. :) It is not against MoFo's RULES to only post in the Intermission forum...it's just against a request I made that I hope the members will honor.
If PLite wanted to squittle in the Intermission Forum, kept it seperate from the real movie talk, and talked about some classics on the side, he'd be welcome. Would he be the kind of member I am targetting, and hope to find more of? No, he would not...but he would not be shunned, or insulted for it. He would not be asked to leave as a result of that, and I would not criticize him for it. I would simply hope that he would change his leanings more towards movie talk, but it would take something pretty extreme for me to actually make him...I don't think that'll ever happen.
So yeah, he could be here and fit in...but it might be against his personality. I'm not completely sure, to be honest. It's up to him...but either way, I plan to move forward with my work on this site. If he spends some time here, cool, if not, well, that's okay too. Life is too short to fuss over these things. :)
ryanpaige
10-07-01, 12:57 AM
How do they know someone's first name isn't Randall?
sunfrog
10-07-01, 01:16 AM
They hate Scott Randall/ :D
Wow, that was a weird site. I'm surprised they have any members at all! What was that stuff about passwords? If you lose it they won't give you another one? You have to use your real name, no nicknames? That's THE strictest bb I've ever seen!
ryanpaige
10-07-01, 01:28 AM
And doesn't limiting it to just a first name kind of limit the number of people who can join your board? I mean, if Homer Glompus is already a member, can Homer Simpson then not join? Or do they allow first and last names, just not first and last names run all together?
thmilin
10-07-01, 02:01 AM
oh my god, you don't know how happy i am to see PLite actually posted here. no reference to my melons but I was sort of wondering about the point of arguing about and over someone we care about who up and disappeared. got the url for the other forum, will lurk for a bit and venture words ...
thanks for clearing that up, sunfrog. i really expected to come back and have people post "just shut the hell up" in which case i don't think i would have been back for a looooong time.
PLite: Anyhoo why should I even mention Jean Marais on this forum when hardly anyones even seen an old French film? Have you? Has anyone? You see my point? How can I use my movie knowhow in a forum where hardly anyone has seen the films I like?
Honeypoo, you know what? You are so prolific about things that most of the time when i logged into movieforums gazillions of PLite posts would have passed by and IF I ever saw something by you about film it'd be in discussion already and i'd be late so i'd just not answer. Or, it wouldn't be something I'd seen. things flew by, info overload. That, and I have no clue who Jean Marais is. BUT - I watch old French Movies.
AND - I saw Beauty and the Beast too ... see, you don't know till you ask/say ...
Steve N: PLite, you're missed. I hope one day you'll come back and we can talk old french movies all you want.
Yes, you are. And I hope so, too.
They don't, most likely. That's just one of the 10 million reasons why their methods are stupid. Imagine those policies in place here! Your username wouldn't be acceptable, Ryan...in fact, I wonder if anyone's would. Is Arthur Dent's real name "Arthur Dent"? That makes one, if so. :)
Arthur Dent
10-07-01, 09:42 PM
What I don't understand is why people keep saying this message board should be focused more on movies. That's all fine, but what relevance does it have to the INTERMISSION forum? This forum is not supposed to be focused on movies, so examples of non-movie related "crap" shouldn't be taken from this forum.
If some newbie comes here to talk mainly about movies, they shouldn't click on the Intermission forum.
Oh and Chris, no my name is not really Arthur Dent. It's from the Hitchhiker's Trilogy, by Douglas Adams.
thmilin
10-07-01, 10:41 PM
what the issue is concentrated on, Arthur D, is coming here to MAINLY post in the intermission forum. That's like crashing a wedding reception for the food and not the couple or the family. you shouldn't be there. you should be at Sizzler.
and ... even if you occasionally post in movie related areas, why'd you join? the reason should be for movies, and just like the intermission of an opera or a film, you are stepping OUT - briefly - to take a break. you don't go to the movies for the intermission. you go to the movies for the movie ... etc. that IS why it's called that, and why Chris created the forum area.. it's an added bonus, to give people a break and a chance to connect outside of the general purpose, but it's not meant to REPLACE the original purpose.
you don't go to games for half-time. you don't go to school for recess. you don't ride planes for airplane food or the movie or the hot stewardesses. etc ...
Sir Toose
10-08-01, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by thmilin
what the issue is concentrated on, Arthur D, is coming here to MAINLY post in the intermission forum. That's like crashing a wedding reception for the food and not the couple or the family. you shouldn't be there. you should be at Sizzler.
and ... even if you occasionally post in movie related areas, why'd you join? the reason should be for movies, and just like the intermission of an opera or a film, you are stepping OUT - briefly - to take a break. you don't go to the movies for the intermission. you go to the movies for the movie ... etc. that IS why it's called that, and why Chris created the forum area.. it's an added bonus, to give people a break and a chance to connect outside of the general purpose, but it's not meant to REPLACE the original purpose.
you don't go to games for half-time. you don't go to school for recess. you don't ride planes for airplane food or the movie or the hot stewardesses. etc ...
Not to be incendiary... but the old adage about "one who lives in a glass house should not throw stones" certainly holds water in this case. If you search your posts you will see that they weigh heavily on the intermission side. I'm not trying to start anything but there is a lot of fingerpointing here and the post count in intermission continues to rise steadily. Maybe it's time to admit that everyone enjoys intermission and all are equally responsible for it's exponential growth.
I don't think Miriam spent most of her time in the Intermission Forum. She spent her fair share, yeah, but so have I. No one is saying Intermission is necessarily a bad thing. :) And yes, I deleted Kyra's post: all it did was basically talk about meeting Toose at the new forum...no offense, but it's pretty rude to do that here on my forum, a competing forum. Please email each other personally if you want to talk about such things.
sadesdrk
10-08-01, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by TWTCommish
I don't think Miriam spent most of her time in the Intermission Forum. She spent her fair share, yeah, but so have I. No one is saying Intermission is necessarily a bad thing. :) And yes, I deleted Kyra's post: all it did was basically talk about meeting Toose at the new forum...no offense, but it's pretty rude to do that here on my forum, a competing forum. Please email each other personally if you want to talk about such things.
Here's what I have to say about Kyra and her friends...quit coming here to pick up on guys,S*** girls,you all sound terribly desperate.It wouldn't be so bad if you knew ANYTHING about movies,but you don't.I read in the general movie disc.that you're only 15,does your mommy know you're out internet fishing? Half of the guys on this forum are older than you sweetie and the other half would have shown interst by now...in case you haven't picked up on it by now,I'm irritated.:D
C'mon Sades...don't be so harsh about it. I don't know how much they know about movies, so I'm not going to make assumptions. I won't shed a tear if they leave, but they're not worthless.
sadesdrk
10-08-01, 12:36 PM
Sorry...lol...again,my apologies.You're sorta catching all my posts when I was mad about it.I won't do it anymore.There's one more on the thread she started;) sorry...lol.:D
thmilin
10-09-01, 02:13 AM
Toose - you're quite right, I do indeed post in the Intermissions forum. And to follow your own logic (going back to look at the evidence of my posts and their content) you will also see that I openly admit that 1) I post there and that 2) crap APPEARED WITHIN (does not constitute the WHOLE) and that 3) I CONTRIBUTED TO IT.
But no, i don't think that's the majority of my posting. I post wherever "New Posts" has interesting threads. The logic there is, if I come in every other day or so to see "New Posts" and 30 out of 50 are in the Intermissions forum and I go by what's available, as of late, yes indeedy, what I pick is within the Int. Forum.
It wouldn't matter to me if I came in and 10/30 of the New Posts are Int. Forum related ... i simply pick from what loads as "new" on my screen, and if it's a movie I've seen, I will most likely go there to post my opinion - like i just did with Serendipity. I refrained from it cuz i hadn't seen it yet, or much of anything else for that matter, in the past couple months.
El Cootie
10-09-01, 11:32 AM
TWT,
May I e-mail you in private regarding yourself and your forum? I have tried to get into my profile to obtain the e-mail address I used to register in your site but I cannot remember my own password. (I am descending into senility.) :) The e-mail address I used belongs to one of my grandsons and I cannot remember which. I have 9. So if you agree to receiving my e-mail and the address is unfamiliar to you, it is because I have bullied another of my progeny to give me their address :)
I cannot promise prompt replies however if you choose to have a dialogue with me since I do not own a PC and my hands are slightly arthritic.
(Madam Sadesdrk--it was not my personal choice--not to post in your forum. While I admit I was entertained, nature did not allow me to participate as you do.)
(Thmilin--Respect has to be earned. And that is all I have to say about that.)
Sure, El Cootie, email me any time: chris _at_ movieforums _dot_ com
sadesdrk
10-09-01, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by El Cootie
(Madam Sadesdrk--it was not my personal choice--not to post in your forum. While I admit I was entertained, nature did not allow me to participate as you do.)
([/B]El Cootie-I wish you could visit more often...you've sort of been a light of wisdom in all of this.I'm sorry you aren't able to post as often as you would like,but please know,your comments are always welcomed and appreciated;when you can.:)
thmilin
10-09-01, 04:51 PM
El Cootie: (Thmilin--Respect has to be earned. And that is all I have to say about that.)
- You read (or did not read, depending on how you chose to deal with it) my posts. You misread my posts. You assumed that I said X (bad stuff) when I said Y.
- You then began your post with complete disrespect toward me BASED on that misreading.
- Yes, respect must be earned. One can also earn, by disrespecting others, the loss of an another's esteem.
I never showed you any disrespect, nor anyone else. I was extremely misunderstood by you and others, and have done all that I am willing to do without harm to myself to change that.
If I never had your respect when you first came to these boards, or if I did and have since "lost" it, I am not in the least sorry for it, for I was quite mistaken to have offered my esteem based on the positive idea I had of you in the first place. This seems a mutual conclusion.
In the end, to each his own. I'm sure that forever in your mind you will remain quite right and I will remain quite awful, in respect to things you THOUGHT I said, and I am at peace with that. People will think what they wish.
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