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Blister
09-22-05, 11:33 AM
Is Your Child a Goth?

Was Salem Correct?

Listed below are some warning signs to indicate if your child may have gone
astray from the Lord.

Gothic (or goth) is a very obscure and often dangerous culture that young teenagers are prone to participating in. The gothic culture leads young, susceptible minds into an imagined world of evil,
darkness, and violence. Please seek immediate attention through counselling,
prayer, and parental guidance to rid your child of Satan's temptations if five or more of the following are applicable to your child.


-Frequently wears black clothing.
-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts.
-Wears excessive black eye makeup,lipstick or nail polish.
-Wears any odd silver jewelry or symbols.
-Shows an interest in piercings or tattoos.
-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music. (Marilyn Manson
claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks against the Lord. Please
discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.)
-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak eccentrically.
-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the Bible,
prayer, church or sports.
-Shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic, the occult,
witchcraft or anything else that involves Satan.
-Takes drugs.
-Drinks alcohol.
-Is suicidal and/or depressed.
-Cuts, burns or partakes in any other method of self-mutilation.(This is a
Satanic ritual that uses pain to detract from the light of God and His love.
Please seek immediate attention for this at your local mental health
center.)
-Complains of boredom.
-Sleeps too excessively or too little.
-Is excessively awake during the night.
-Demands an unusual amount of privacy.
-Spends large amounts of time alone.
-Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your chid may speak to
evil sprits through meditation.)
-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult.
-Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders are but a
few examples of this.
-Misbehaves at school.
-Misbehaves at home.
-Eats excessively or too little
-Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of this.
-Drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood. (Vampires believe
this is how to attain Satan. This act is very dangerous and should be
stopped immediately.)
-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media
sources. (Ask your local church for proper programs that your child may
watch.)
-Plays videos games that contains violence or role-playing nature.
-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer.
-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music.
-Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner.
-Expresses an interest in sex.
-Masturbates.
-Is homosexual and/or bisexual.
-Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism, Scientology,
Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism.
-Wears pins, stickers or anything else that contains these various phrases:
"I'm so gothic, I'm dead", "woe is me", "I'm a goth".
-Claims to be a goth.


If five or more of these apply to your child, please intervene immediately.
The gothic culture is dangerous and Satan thrives within it. If any of these
problems persist, enlist your child into your local mental health center.

Taken from http://www.landoverbaptist.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5680&st=60

What's everyone else's opinion on this? Am I the only person who finds this funny?...some people don't have a clue.

(btw, this was sent to my e-mail...i don't go around baptist site looking for this stuff....)

chicagofrog
09-22-05, 11:36 AM
hei, i don't have a child, but that's me in many aspects you described there!
my parents could live with it, me too, and the only thing i don't like about it is when it all becomes a superficial, artificial trend without any depth. if not so, then there are wonderful aesthetic aspects to it. the happiness dictatureship sins by hypocritism many times, and so can a false exaggerated melancholy, but like everything, if it's true, it doesn't have to be negative.
plus, you're not gonna change something that's deep inside someone, maybe even the most important aspect of one's personality. maybe you would prefer them to be different, happier, more "normal" (what's that??), but if it all is you, really you, then finding a culture to express it is a big help.
i mean, finding bands to share my feelings with, an aesthetic, books and art forms and all when i was a sad depressed teen helped me. i didn't feel all alone anymore. first i may not have known what was happening to me, and first of all, wondered if i was alone, the only one feeling that way in the whole world. that's horrible. but once you find you're not alone out there with that pain, instead of committing suicide you discover you can give that distress an artistic form, whether you really create, becoming an artist, or enjoying the art others create.
lastly, since you cannot change what's very your deep self, the only good thing one can do is use it for the best.
that's what all artists do (the real ones), create with what distresses them inside or makes them different.

Blister
09-22-05, 11:40 AM
I think it's got aspects of basically everyone.....does that mean that everyone is a goth?.....i can't believe that some people believe that is what a 'goth' is made up from.

Caitlyn
09-22-05, 11:48 AM
The Landover Baptist are the same morons who applauded the work of Derrick Todd Lee, the Baton Rouge serial killer... their newsletter stated Lee was the "hand of God" and that the women he killed had sinned by wearing make-up and going out to work...

chicagofrog
09-22-05, 11:51 AM
Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism, Scientology,
Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism

that is totally discriminating. totaly BS! what's that? if you're not a puritan Protestant you're dangerous? that's pure racism dude! especially paganism, hinduism and buddhism. now the Dalai Lama is a Goth? dangerous are those who claim there is ONE god and all others should be converted or killed, like it happened many times in history. never did it with those three religions.
ugh!

Blister
09-22-05, 11:59 AM
aren't christians supposed to be tolerant of others, and understanding towards the world?.....and since when is 'Philosophy' a 'dangerous cult religion'?.

samq79
09-22-05, 12:59 PM
Isn't this the freakshow nutjob cult that Kirk Cameron got himself mixed up in? These people are a large part of what's wrong with America, if I may say so myself.

Anonymous Last
09-22-05, 01:13 PM
I think my inner child is Goth...

Yoda
09-22-05, 01:37 PM
It's a gag site, people. Take a look at the home page; they're selling Jesus thongs:

http://www.landoverbaptist.org

Anonymous Last
09-22-05, 01:57 PM
It's a gag site, people. Take a look at the home page; they're selling Jesus thongs:

http://www.landoverbaptist.org

The beard would be too itchy!

chicagofrog
09-22-05, 02:19 PM
http://www.i-hate-france.com/

this one is not a joke. well, it is, but they dunno it! :eek:

SamsoniteDelilah
09-22-05, 02:57 PM
Taken from http://www.landoverbaptist.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5680&st=60

What's everyone else's opinion on this? Am I the only person who finds this funny?...some people don't have a clue.

(btw, this was sent to my e-mail...i don't go around baptist site looking for this stuff....)
I think it's hilarious. :p

Especially the following:
-Complains of boredom. also a sign they might be an alien. Let's not get narrow-minded here.
-Sleeps too excessively or too little.does this not define the teen years?
-Demands an unusual amount of privacy.wonder what they're doing... and why there never seems to be any lotion in the house...
-Spends large amounts of time alone.see above
-Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your chid may speak to
evil sprits through meditation.)see above
-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult.in fact, any signs of independence should be squelched. The best kids are the ones who are chained at the ankle to their parents until they're 45.
-Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders are but afew examples of this.or they stop chanting "one of us one of us one of us". Those are the kids who get into trouble.
-Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of this.:rotfl:
-Drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood. (Vampires believe this is how to attain Satan. This act is very dangerous and should be stopped immediately.)c'mon. It's liquid protein... don't the astronaughts drink liquie protein?
-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media
sources. (Ask your local church for proper programs that your child may watch.)Ted Turner isn't gonna like this.
-Plays videos games that contains violence or role-playing nature.in other words, 'is a teen'
-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer.:eek: They're onto us!!
-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music.mmm...:yep: What should they shake?
-Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner.="is human"
-Expresses an interest in sex.hahaahahaa!
-Masturbates.somebody's a bit fixated on the sex thing...
-Is homosexual and/or bisexual.how about beastiality?
-Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism, Scientology, Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism.By all means, look out for anyone into philosophy... or scary, scary buddhism.
-Wears pins, stickers or anything else that contains these various phrases:
"I'm so gothic, I'm dead", "woe is me", "I'm a goth".:laugh:
-Claims to be a goth.That's a sign? Really?

Pyro Tramp
09-22-05, 03:25 PM
-Wears pins, stickers or anything else that contains these various phrases:
"I'm so gothic, I'm dead", "woe is me", "I'm a goth".

I want one.

SamsoniteDelilah
09-22-05, 03:40 PM
I want one.
Agreed. A pin that says "woe is me" is a hilarious idea.

Pyro Tramp
09-22-05, 03:44 PM
"I'm soo gothic" is the one that cuaght my eye

Tacitus
09-22-05, 03:59 PM
I was a Goth. :(

For around a week in 1986...

chicagofrog
09-22-05, 04:00 PM
i was a goth :)

for around 6 years ... wait, i'm still one?

undercoverlover
09-22-05, 05:59 PM
dude, was that a list to see if your child was a goth or just an average teenager?

starrdarcy
09-23-05, 01:54 AM
First of all, i'm curious of where this trend came from. Does any one honestly know? i mean, we have alot of "goth" ppl around here, just wondered what the heck goth means. I suppose i have the desire to become one, kind of dark and mysterious... cool

Pyro Tramp
09-23-05, 06:27 AM
To be fair, goth's are better than emo kids. Just.

Anonymous Last
09-23-05, 08:39 AM
I suppose i have the desire to become one, kind of dark and mysterious... cool

Gotta kill a few people.

Then you got to get sent to a slam, where they tell you you'll never see daylight again. You dig up a doctor, and you pay him 20 menthol Kools to do a surgical shine job on your eyeballs.

Tacitus
09-23-05, 09:32 AM
My favourite Goths:

http://www.geocities.com/~mediaworld/damned/davecaptain82003.jpg
4. Dave Vanian. Wonder if he still sleeps in a coffin?

http://www.platinum-needles.co.uk/images/siouxsie.jpg
3. Siouxie Sioux

http://www.cenedra.com/mission/wayne/huss1thu.jpg
2. Wayne Hussey

http://www.mixi.net/Sisters.Of.Mercy/Personnel/Andrew.Eldritch.gif
1. Andrew Eldritch

chicagofrog
09-23-05, 11:14 AM
oh, i could post 20 pages of pics here, but my fave one probably is:
http://www.vamp.org/Gothic/Images/images/s-death3.jpg
long live Gaiman!

Piddzilla
09-23-05, 11:50 AM
I love this t-shirt:

http://www.chargrilled.co.uk/v~2/prodimages/medium/goth.jpg