View Full Version : Due to Hurricane Katrina…
Caitlyn
08-28-05, 02:31 PM
I probably won't be around for a while… so, I'll see you guys when I can…
Anyone have any extra floaties…
Darth Stujitzu
08-28-05, 03:14 PM
Take care, hope it gets better soon.
We'll miss you! :love: :kiss:
Strummer521
08-28-05, 03:44 PM
Got rid of my old floaties a while ago. But I can give ya a prayer for your saftey. Good luck and hope to see you back soon.
Best of luck to you, I am hoping to miss the main part of this one.
Piddzilla
08-28-05, 05:02 PM
I hope all will go well with you, Caitlyn, New Orleans and the rest of the coast area. Let us know you're ok as soon as you're able to.
SamsoniteDelilah
08-28-05, 05:30 PM
Good luck, Caitlyn, keep safe.
good luck to you caity...i know how it feels having been in several myself!!! hope to see you back soon....
Take care Caity. I really hope you don't have to work in this. Let us know how your doing as soon as you can.
I'll be thinking about you. :kiss:
Take Care Caity, come home soon. :kiss:
blibblobblib
08-28-05, 08:47 PM
Take care Caity. I really hope you don't have to work in this. Let us know how your doing as soon as you can.
I'll be thinking about you. :kiss:
Ditto, be safe Caity Pie. :kiss:
hoping you´ll be fine
take care!
Take care of yourself Cait. Please come back soon in your usual beautiful condition. ;) :kiss:
Tacitus
08-29-05, 05:30 AM
I hope you're safe as I type this Caity.
It's strange but, as I watched the News on TV yesterday, instead of thinking "That's awful" and getting back to my Sunday dinner I thought you and your Pontiac might be in the throng of cars filmed fleeing the city.
The internet's a powerful tool sometimes. Hurry back. :)
Ash_Lee
08-29-05, 07:07 AM
Oh hell, I hope you'll be alright. Good luck, and come back!
Tea Barking
08-29-05, 09:35 AM
Hope you be safe.
Well, it's starting. I hope she found somewhere safe to go.
**** getting bad down there...Hope all got out ok....
Heard the major real hurricane has moved away from New Orleans. Hopefully our Caity is ok.
SamsoniteDelilah
08-29-05, 03:04 PM
Heard the major real hurricane has moved away from New Orleans. Hopefully our Caity is ok.
Yep yep.. and Equilibrium as well.
Hope you are ok also Libby :D
blibblobblib
08-29-05, 08:52 PM
Hows it all looking now?
I watched a fox news report on CNN last night presented by some Hiraldo guy and it was absoloutly ridiculous. He was saying things like 'This is the perfect storm, America has never seen anything like this, any town in it's path will be obliterated and we can all say goodbye to New Orleans as it will be nothing but a toxic waste dump of a town festering in it's wreckage and the victims of Katrina's power'. I was mortified this moron was even reporting the news. I thought it was a spoof or a joke at first.
watching pictures of french quarter flooding...it's horrible...
dillskies88
08-30-05, 12:53 AM
watching pictures of french quarter flooding...it's horrible...
It could have been even worse if New Orleans had got a direct hit of Katrina. Also best of wishes to Caity, hope you are safe.
LordSlaytan
08-30-05, 01:03 AM
I bet Caitlyn has been working all this time and not running anywhere. I dunno about Lib, tho'.
Of course I'm worried about their welfare...financial and physical. Losing their homes is certainly possible.
Darth Stujitzu
08-30-05, 09:04 AM
I have a good friend in New Orleans that I met at film school, can't reach him by phone or e-mail, whilst I'm sure he's ok, it's still worrying.
I hope Caity is safe and well, I can't believe the destruction caused, it will take a long time to fix.
Hopefully Caity will post soon and let us know she is ok.
Hey all, I have not got my power back at home yet, I am up at my shop long enough to check a few things out and I am running on a generator. Here at Pensacola we caught the edge of the storm, it was pretty bad here, but i know much worse from Mobile Al. all The way to New Orleans. I went through Ivan less than a year ago and the news coverage is spotty at best. Local news reports deaths in Gulfport of people who wanted to leave and could not because they had no transportation. I know a lot of finger pointing is going to be done, but we have enough military in the local areas alone to have helped these people get to safety. It is a shame that people had to die at all, but if you made a choice to stay you were the one taking the risk; if you wanted out however someone in this wonderfully great rich country of ours should have given you a ride. I will speak a little more on this as time permits, right now I am in cleanup mode and very glad that we avoided the brunt of the storm here. Best wishes to Caity and the other MOFO's who were hit the hardest. If there is anything at all I can do I will be more than glad to help you out. I know the recovery process takes months or even years.
blibblobblib
08-30-05, 06:10 PM
Good to hear from ya Seven. Its all over the news over here, unbelievable destruction. Wheres Caity? Eq?
SamsoniteDelilah
08-30-05, 06:52 PM
Most likely, they're perfectly fine and helping out the less fortunate.
The entire area is without power - millions of people - so they probably won't be able to get word to us for awhile.
Nice to hear you are ok 7thboy :kiss:
Nice to hear you are ok 7thboy :kiss:
Thank you Darling...:)
I am really at a loss of what to say. The deaths are mounting and the suffering is unrelenting. I see stories of looting and guess what I think about it? Nothing at all, if my family needed something and it was there I would take it. I am not condoning crime so please do not take it as that. I see so much suffering that the looting is so much on the back burner. I say this because it is so easy for people to look at the news and think: hey look those black people are taking advantage of a terrible situation and making away from some buisness owners stuff.. yadda yadda yadda who cares..... I am a bit bitter yes I have to admit that. If you can follow along with my thoughts please do, if not then thats okay too. I have been through so much over the last few years of my life. Hell I have been through Hell over the last 2 decades of my life. I am not asking for pity though, so please do not thake my "whinning" as such. I am very lucky. My children are all healthy and are alive. If that is what it takes to make one grateful then Lord I am. It is hard for me to relay my thoughts here in a way that is empathetic, sympathetic yes thats easy, but empathetic is tough. I am not sure what I am saying here other than: My home, my money, my experience, etc.........................................................................
is availble for anyone who can use it. I will be leaving West to bring what little help I can for those in need in the "war-torn" areas that Katrina has spawned. Am I looking for recognition? Hell no!!!!! This is not for me whatsoever. This is ME being ME. Hate me or love me it does not matter, I will do what I can to help those who need it and if you know the story of the girl saving the starfish then you know my mindset. SIGH Faith sur ecan be tough sometimes.......:mad:
Thank you Darling...:)
I am really at a loss of what to say. The deaths are mounting and the suffering is unrelenting. I see stories of looting and guess what I think about it? Nothing at all, if my family needed something and it was there I would take it. I am not condoning crime so please do not take it as that.
I was once in a Cyclone, it fattened the whole of Darwin, I saw looting there also, it seems that after a huge catastrophe like that people go a bit crazy and steel silly things they can't even use. :( food is important to survive, the shops where I lived opened for people to just take what they wanted, :yup: the one good thing I remember of that time is, how people came together to help each other survive, I am sure there is a lot more caring happening. :love:
Anonymous Last
08-31-05, 12:10 PM
Anyone have any extra floaties…
...and to think a few months back, I was teasing you about building an ark or something.
HellboyUnleashed
08-31-05, 10:52 PM
This is just my view of the whole Katrina thing. This is much worse than 9/11, not because of all the deaths but because a lot of our oil refinerys in the south were located in New Orleans and were on the Bad side of the storm. Gas prices are going to go up some more before its all over. I predict the normal Gas Prices will be raised were I am from $2.55/g to about $4.00/g. The other great loss is the French Quarter. Not because of all the tourist attractions but because most of the Buildings in there have a great past and it was destroyed by one storm, all of these beautiful things destoryed.
That being said, What ever I can do to help in my community with the refugee's I will. I think they are puttin the Astrodome in Houston (Where I live) to great use. Those people maybe in there for a couple of months and some people may not like it but better to use it to help people than to let it just sit there. The other thing I believe needs to happen is a swap out of Marines and Nation Guard from Iraq and Afghanistan, the army is helping alot with disaster relief but Nation Guard is better for these kind of disasters because it is what they are trained to do. The rebuilding of New Orleans will probably take a few years so I encourage any end everyone to pitch in. Remember as we have seen from the footage of people sticking together to survive in the flood waters, we can work better as a team helping instead saying that it's not our problem.
Both of those things being said, Caitlyn and Equilibrium and whoever else may have been in the storm, I hope that you got out of it in time or if you were in New Orlean's, I hope you got the Superdome in time.
darkhorse
08-31-05, 11:00 PM
Best of luck to you, Caitlyn, and here's hoping we hear back from you soon!
HellboyUnleashed
08-31-05, 11:04 PM
Article from Compuserve (http://member.compuserve.com/news/story.jsp?idq=/ff/story/0001/20050831/0715157598.htm&ewp=ewp_news_0805post_storm)
My first trip out West proved a little fruitless. Biloxi is about an hour and a half drive from here, but I never made it that far. The Interstate was blocked just West of Mobile. I was suprised that I saw nothing in way of relief efforts. Oh I know they are out there in the thick of it, but The damage I saw even before I got to Mississippi was devastating. I gave some Ice, canned food, batteries, and clean socks (you would be suprised how important these are) to a few people that still had a place to live, but were expected to be without power for weeks. I will probably head over again in a few days. I hope to post some pictures when I can.
HellboyUnleashed
08-31-05, 11:16 PM
My first trip out West proved a little fruitless. Biloxi is about an hour and a half drive from here, but I never made it that far. The Interstate was blocked just West of Mobile. I was suprised that I saw nothing in way of relief efforts. Oh I know they are out there in the thick of it, but The damage I saw even before I got to Mississippi was devastating. I gave some Ice, canned food, batteries, and clean socks (you would be suprised how important these are) to a few people that still had a place to live, but were expected to be without power for weeks. I will probably head over again in a few days. I hope to post some pictures when I can.
That's awsome man. I would do that but it's kind of hard in my position because I have to go to school and I have no car, or else I'd be out there with people tryin to help. I'm gonna try to help locally though by working at a food pantry, it's probably not much but in the words of Ed Norton "Remember, You can't change the world but you can make a dent." That's from Death To Smoochy for those of you who don't know where it's from.
..... Gas prices are going to go up some more before its all over. I predict the normal Gas Prices will be raised from $2.55/g to about $4.00/g......Both of those things being said, Caitlyn and Equilibrium and whoever else may have been in the storm, I hope that you got out of it in time or if you were in New Orlean's, I hope you got the Superdome in time.
I live down south as well, and you're probably right with those gas prices Hellboy. Those prices are high enough as it is. Right now it's at least $3.05 - $3.15/g. (before it rises).
As for Katrina....I've been watching and seeing these people how they lose homes, and what it looks like after it hits. Especially just tonight with Dateline and their special on it. I sat there mesmerized.... my mouth was open and I just started to cry. :bawling:
thealphacro
08-31-05, 11:31 PM
hey man at least your ok MOFO without JRS oh man that would blow
I live down south as well, and you're probably right with those gas prices Hellboy. Those prices are high enough as it is. Right now it's at least $3.05 - $3.15/g. (before it rises).
As for Katrina....I've been watching and seeing these people how they lose homes, and what it looks like after it hits. Especially just tonight with Dateline and their special on it. I sat there mesmerized.... my mouth was open and I just started to cry. :bawling:
i work for a local oil company...those gas prices have been rising steadily for the last two days...they say it might get to 5 dollars a gallon
as for katrina, a friend of mine used to live down there in the 70's...i was all over the area...she used to live in metarie...we went to slidell to eat poor boys and visited the french quarter....
The_Butcher
09-01-05, 12:47 AM
It's a good thing that you got out of there in time. Look what it has caused!
allthatglitters
09-01-05, 02:21 AM
I probably won't be around for a while… so, I'll see you guys when I can…
Anyone have any extra floaties…
Oh lord I hope she is OK. I just watched the news and they were talking about the police force--to say that they are pretty hard-pressed is an understatement.
Piddzilla
09-01-05, 05:36 AM
Eq lives in New Orleans too? I didn't know that. I hope he's ok. What I've seen on tv is just awful....
The gas price is the most significant thing here? Am I weird thinking that sounds not just a little strange?
Anonymous Last
09-01-05, 10:24 AM
Eq lives in New Orleans too? I didn't know that. I hope he's ok. What I've seen on tv is just awful....
EQ is in that mess also!? My heart drops when I see the people on TV trying to get through all that mess, sitting around without shelter or water, trying to survive. Then I keep thinking of Caity out in that mess and it changes everything when you know of someone out in it. Now I'm going to have EQ on my mind also! I feel helpless with it all. I wish I could get my hands messy and help people out over there. But what can I do? Again... I feel helpless!
The gas price is the most significant thing here? Am I weird thinking that sounds not just a little strange? Nothing against your post Pidd... it's all toward the ladies and gents who control the gas and oil prices.
**** those gas bastards and their dumb aSS prices! People are in a world of shIt in the dead wet lands and gas prices keep going up? Is there a connection? Don't know, don't care... just ****em'!! I hope they all choke on their oily gas smellin' poop and die in a corner. I'll light a match for em'. Bastards!
I'm glad I got that out my system... thanks!
SamsoniteDelilah
09-01-05, 01:21 PM
I keep checking this thread for posts from C and Eq... I know that with the power out and all that's going on, they have much more pressing things to do than sign in here, but the silence is getting tough to take.
As for the price of gas... a significant percentage of US oil comes from the area that is under water and/or shut down. Bush has opened the oil reserves, and that should help, but prices are bound to get ugly. I don't know enough about it to say if we're being gouged. It would be depressing to think that the looting mentality kicks in for people in control of such an important commodity. People's wellbeing depends on transportation. It seems kinda petty to whinge about higher prices when thousands are presumed dead, but it's not an insignificant problem when it makes the difference between affording to get to work or not. At that point, gas price victims are just outlying participants in the same tragedy.
They just said on the news that gangs in New Orleans are holding neighborhoods hostage and shooting at people who are trying to rescue survivors. Jesus...
Anonymous Last
09-01-05, 01:28 PM
They just said on the news that gangs in New Orleans are holding neighborhoods hostage and shooting at people who are trying to rescue survivors. Jesus...
WTF!!! People are crazy!
Darth Stujitzu
09-01-05, 01:29 PM
I agree with SD's sentiments, keep hoping to hear from Caitlyn and Eq, it's always worrying, but I'm sure both are fine. I got an e-mail from my friend from New Orleans, him and most of his family are safe, but his brother in law is a cop, and stayed behind to help out with the rescue effort.
It's so frustraiting, I feel numb every time I watch the news just now, disasters like this bring out the best and worst in people, I just hope things get a little easier soon.
SamsoniteDelilah
09-01-05, 01:50 PM
WTF!!! People are crazy!
Ever wonder how thin the veneer of civilization is?
It apparently rubs off with water in 4 days.
Anonymous Last
09-01-05, 01:57 PM
Ever wonder how thin the veneer of civilization is?
It apparently rubs off with water in 4 days.
You make it sound like Temporary Tattoos.
With people looting its crazy, but stealing Televisions and the like is outrageous.... there is no electricity.
MovieDan82
09-01-05, 02:15 PM
With people looting its crazy, but stealing Televisions and the like is outrageous.... there is no electricity.
Plus the televisions are soaking wet...
Anonymous Last
09-01-05, 02:31 PM
With people looting its crazy, but stealing Televisions and the like is outrageous.... there is no electricity.Plus the televisions are soaking wet...
Shhhhh! Let them find out later... when they get the tube home.
Some people need to learn by self experience.
MovieDan82
09-01-05, 02:34 PM
Shhhhh! Let them find out later... when they get the tube home.
Some people need to learn by self experience.NBC is showing some great footage of police officers looting stereo systems. When the reporter asked them what they were doing they replied, “We’re saving the stereos”.
Classy.
Anonymous Last
09-01-05, 02:47 PM
NBC is showing some great footage of police officers looting stereo systems.
When they do it... it is OK.
The things going on "next door" to me are beyond simple words. The feeling I get when I think about it is the exact same helpless feeling I got while my Army Unit helped clear the streets of a battered and destroyed Kuwait back during the first Gulf War. I think of so many things:
When my unit was put on alert that we were going to help liberate Kuwait we were there within 24 hours and could have been there even sooner. I am not talking 100's, I am talking thousands of soilders moved in a very short time. Why is it taking so long to get help to where it is needed. Forget safety and the floods, and all the excuses. If we were commanded to go help foreign allies and were able to get through the oil fires, sand storms, military resistance, etc... then were sure as Hell can navigate some flood waters.
Addressing the violence, looting, unrest:
Looting for any other means than survival should be punished, quickly and severly bootm line. A lot of these people have taken this horrible opportunity to display a "power" they have never been able to express before. The reason is fear plain and simple. We need to put the fear of punishment back into the hearts of the lawless. If it takes shooting a few of them then by God they desreve it. I am only talking about those who are wielding weapons an making it dangerous for everyone else, not the parent who rummages through a grocery store to find food for their faimily. It is going to get ugly, but we will save a lot more innocents if we put a stop to it now by whatever means need to be employed.
The looting and other viloence is not the main issue at hand however. Disease WILL set in soon, I have seen it in other places where no sanitation is available. We need to get everyone out of that area and we need to do it now, not when it is too late and they wind up dying even after they have been evacuated. The children are definitley suffering and dying as well as the elderly and the handicapped. It is hard to take care of someone else when you cannot take care of yourself.
I am mentioning theses things because I know first hand what it is like. Tempers will flare greatly and the death toll at the end of this thing is going to be awful.
One thing that bothers me is that the mindset of a lot of those I talk to is one of numbness. We do not have the time for that!!!! Be numb after it is over, for now take action. I of course am talking about those in a position to do so. We, as a nation and a race, need to get these people to safety first, and worry about gas prices, the wonderful landmarks, the future levee system, etc... later. All of those things are very important, but look at a gas station sign with a price of $3.50 or more and then look at a family dying of thirst on the roof of their home while bands of idiots shoot at would be rescuers and put it into perspective. Our government needs to do more and do it now, there is no excuse for waiting. If we can send our boys and girls into battle for another country we sure as hell can send them to save our own.
Anonymous Last
09-01-05, 04:00 PM
If we can send our boys and girls into battle for another country we sure as hell can send them to save our own.
Where's the money in that?
MovieDan82
09-01-05, 04:38 PM
Hospitals in New Orleans are now taking sniper fire. I mean really, come on now...
SamsoniteDelilah
09-01-05, 04:40 PM
Hospitals in New Orleans are now taking sniper fire. I mean really, come on now...
I just saw that, too.
What on earth is the motivation for that? Anyone??
Anonymous Last
09-01-05, 04:50 PM
I just saw that, too.
What on earth is the motivation for that? Anyone??
No health insurance?
Where's the money in that?
Where is the money in letting people just die? This is not about money (the rescuing and saving lives), there is more than enough avaible to take care of this. No it is just a big cluster, I mean congress is going to hold a special session later tonight to approve emergency aid. WTH, like they have to hold a special session for this, there should be contingency plan already for something like this.
Anonymous Last
09-01-05, 05:28 PM
No it is just a big cluster, I mean congress is going to hold a special session later tonight to approve emergency aid.
Cool, a special session! I hope it doesn't cut into their busy schedules.
UPDATE
Trouble. New Orleans has just issued a nationwide SOS. The mayer claims the city has slipped into a state of anarchy, and can no longer be controlled. This is serious ****....
Darth Stujitzu
09-01-05, 07:55 PM
I can't believe how things appear to be spiraling out of control.
Hospital's taking sniper fire is unbelieveable, similar events take place in Bosnia and the middle east, but I'm amazed that it's happening in the US.
I hope the snipers are caught, no punishment fits their crime, but never seeing the light of day again would be apt.
HellboyUnleashed
09-01-05, 10:05 PM
Just get snipers to snipe their snipers. They have military presence in New Orleans. We need to just stop all the looting. All of it. If some one can't get food, then go to the army, they will give you food. It's too disorganized. We even have riots going on in Houston! They come here and when people come to help them they aren't greatful, they attack eachother to get food. It's crazy. Patientce. People are going to die of hunger. It's a very brutal way to look upon things but in my opinion humans try to save everyone they can or kill everyone they can, you need to be more of a gardener. Let the people who can help and the people who act in a appropriate manner, give them food, but jerks who start riots, get them some where were they will face time for puclic disturbances or something.
SamsoniteDelilah
09-02-05, 02:05 AM
Just get snipers to snipe their snipers. They have military presence in New Orleans. We need to just stop all the looting. All of it. If some one can't get food, then go to the army, they will give you food. It's too disorganized. We even have riots going on in Houston! They come here and when people come to help them they aren't greatful, they attack eachother to get food. It's crazy. Patientce. People are going to die of hunger. It's a very brutal way to look upon things but in my opinion humans try to save everyone they can or kill everyone they can, you need to be more of a gardener. Let the people who can help and the people who act in a appropriate manner, give them food, but jerks who start riots, get them some where were they will face time for puclic disturbances or something.
Wow... You're only 14, right?
"People are going to starve" just is not an acceptable attitude to those who are doing the starving.
Rock 'n' roll legend Fats Domino is among the thousands unaccounted for in flooded New Orleans after rebuffing friends' pleas to flee as Hurricane Katrina bore down on the city he celebrated in song, his manager said.
The 77-year-old musician, beloved for his boogie-woogie piano style and such hits as Ain't That a Shame, Walking to New Orleans and Blueberry Hill, has not been heard from since Sunday night, hours before Katrina slammed into the US Gulf Coast, manager Al Embry said.
Embry said he spoke to Domino by telephone twice on Sunday, trying to persuade the singer to evacuate, but the musician insisted he was "going to try to ride out" the storm at home with his wife, Rosemary, and his youngest daughter.
Embry, who is based in Nashville, Tennessee, said friend and onetime country music star Mickey Gilley, a cousin of Jerry Lee Lewis, got on the phone with him at one point on Sunday and "tried to beg (Domino) to leave."
Domino lives in New Orleans' 9th Ward, which Embry said was believed to be underwater.
Embry said he had received reports that Domino "might have been picked up on Tuesday night" and that he had been seen trying to flag down a passing boat near his house, but none of those accounts could be confirmed.
Source (http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2005/09/02/1125302715643.html)
Equilibrium
09-02-05, 02:53 AM
Thanks for everyone looking out for me. Everything you're readin in the news is true....sniper fire..looting...no power no water..we had to be RESCUED from the hospital.
where's caity and who else from mofo is located in NO?
Piddzilla
09-02-05, 06:49 AM
where's caity
We don't know....
r3port3r66
09-02-05, 06:58 AM
I don't pray usually, but tonight my thoughts are with Cait'.
MovieDan82
09-02-05, 07:13 AM
According to the news, Fats Domino and his daughter were rescued late last night.
MovieDan82
09-02-05, 07:43 AM
All hell is breaking loose this morning in New Orleans. Multiple explosions have been reported. Gangs now control the city. The mayor is pleading for 40,000 guards, he is receiving less than 1,000. President Bush promises to make a fly over today to see what’s "really going on". This is insane... I can’t help but feel that our government has failed us on multiple levels.
Freedom’s on the march.
Nice to see you are ok Libby :kiss:
Anonymous Last
09-02-05, 09:56 AM
Thanks for everyone looking out for me. Everything you're readin in the news is true....sniper fire..looting...no power no water..we had to be RESCUED from the hospital.
where's caity and who else from mofo is located in NO?
Good to hear from you.
You and or your family need anything?
Equilibrium
09-02-05, 10:28 AM
Good to hear from you.
You and or your family need anything?
No we're are fine. Our house sustained heavy heavy damage as did most of the city.
The situation is getting really bad, law enforment no longer exists in new orleans its controled by gangs and people with guns. You know that scene in war of the worlds where the ONLY car running was taken over by a bunch of rioters??? that happened to us but my dad and i drove reallly fast.
Anonymous Last
09-02-05, 10:30 AM
All hell is breaking loose this morning in New Orleans. Multiple explosions have been reported. Gangs now control the city. The mayor is pleading for 40,000 guards, he is receiving less than 1,000. President Bush promises to make a fly over today to see what’s "really going on". This is insane... I can’t help but feel that our government has failed us on multiple levels.
Freedom’s on the march.
He's not quite the leader some of me had hoped him to be... my pivot of hope for the man had went down the drain with the morning hairs from my chinny chin chin.
A fly over to see what's "really going on"? Who the hell does he think he is... Marvin Gaye? Why doesn't he stop down, get his feet wet and drop some food or diapers for the babies stuck in that garbage or better yet... move over on his comfy seat and make room for some of them? Maybe I ask too much from the man. Sorry bout that! That's just me... but what does he expect to see from the air? I know, I know, a Nawlins' lady showing her breasts for beads!
At least the man can wave hello from up above, I guess.
Anonymous Last
09-02-05, 10:33 AM
No we're are fine. Our house sustained heavy heavy damage as did most of the city.
The situation is getting really bad, law enforment no longer exists in new orleans its controled by gangs and people with guns. You know that scene in war of the worlds where the ONLY car running was taken over by a bunch of rioters??? that happened to us but my dad and i drove reallly fast.
Glad to hear that you and yours are maintaining!
Piddzilla
09-02-05, 11:18 AM
The situation in New Orleans appears to be really really unpleasant and getting worse all the time. I haven't really worried about Cait before since she's small but tough and smart but now I don't like this one bit.
Darth Stujitzu
09-02-05, 11:38 AM
Equilibrium, glad you and your family are well, what are your plans now, have you somewhere to go till this all boils over? My thoughts are with you, I hope things get better for you soon.
Really worried about Caitlyn, but obviously there are more pressing things on her mind just now, I hope she is safe and well.
I still can't believe all that is going on, why is Bush taking so long to act?
Our news reports have made little mention of the snipers or gangs, but I think the BBC pulled its news people out on monday.
I hope its all resolved soon, and we hear from Caitlyn.
The situation in New Orleans appears to be really really unpleasant and getting worse all the time. I haven't really worried about Cait before since she's small but tough and smart but now I don't like this one bit.
I'm really worried too. Watching the chaos that's going on is heartwretching. I'm sure they needed every police officer to stay on duty. I have to keep thinking that the good thing is that she'll be with other officers and hopefully safe. Knowing Caity...she's probably more worried about her family than herself right now. I hope she's ok. :(
MovieDan82
09-02-05, 12:56 PM
The National Guard have just entered the city. Hopefully this is the beginning of order.
One thing that would help fix a lot of problems would be to put "ONE" agency in charge of the relief efforts. A four start General would have a good chance with all the tools available to them. All the finger pointing going on now from one agency to another is fruitless. Oh well hopefully things will start getting better now. I wanted to do more, but I will have to wait as I cannot get any farther West than Mobile. I am also not sure why Marshal Law has not been "officially" put in effect. if it was ever needed this is the time.
Does anyone know Caity's last name? If so, there are several missing persons/found persons databases online for this particular disaster. Here are a few:
http://www.katrinadata.com/
http://www.nola.com/forums/searching/
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2005/hurricanes/list/
Yoda might know :yup: I wish I did. I can't stand the thought she may be hurt. :(
I'm really worried about Caity. Seeing all the devastation on TV and elsewhere is making me scared and more upset for her, and everyone in this situation. I hope she is ok.
so am i, i keep watching the news, hoping that i would see her...
but the police are working overtime and are exhausted, so i don't know when we might hear from again....now that help has finally arrived down there, who knows what will happen...
i just hope that we hear from her soon....
Don't worry, Caity isn't on the list . (Thank God!!!)
Don't worry, Caity isn't on the list . (Thank God!!!)
Make sure you check a few of them, though. They're all a little bit different.
birdygyrl
09-03-05, 12:27 PM
I'm sure she knows that our thoughts and prayers are with her whatever she is doing. I pray she stays safe and strong.
LordSlaytan
09-03-05, 01:49 PM
Make sure you check a few of them, though. They're all a little bit different.Let's not get morbid for cripes sake.
She'll be fine. Caity is strong and smart and was probably at work. She'll check in somehow when she's able.
Let's not get morbid for cripes sake.
She'll be fine. Caity is strong and smart and was probably at work. She'll check in somehow when she's able.
I wasn't being morbid, chief. If you want to make sure she's alright (or at least make sure she's currently not listed as missing), you might as well use these resources while they're available. If my reply came off a bit cold, I apologize. I'm really worried about Caitlyn, too, and I'm actually pretty confident that she's alright. But come on, I would expect that if someone hasn't been heard from, you'd want to check with as many credible sources as possible to determine if he/she is alright. That's why I listed a few "found" lists, as well. If Caity happened to turn up on one of them, it would likely tell us where she is.
SamsoniteDelilah
09-03-05, 02:32 PM
I wasn't being morbid, chief. If you want to make sure she's alright (or at least make sure she's currently not listed as missing), you might as well use these resources while they're available. If my reply came off a bit cold, I apologize. I'm really worried about Caitlyn, too, and I'm actually pretty confident that she's alright. But come on, I would expect that if someone hasn't been heard from, you'd want to check with as many credible sources as possible to determine if he/she is alright. That's why I listed a few "found" lists, as well. If Caity happened to turn up on one of them, it would likely tell us where she is.
You're just being realistic, and helpful.
jrs, thanks for checking!
You're just being realistic, and helpful.
jrs, thanks for checking!
No problem, after Sleezy asked about Cait's last name I wasn't sure until last night. It just popped into my head and I ran to computer to check for her name.
Like Brian says, I am confident she is ok. Caitlyn is a strong, positive and intellogent woman. She'll make it out of this.
Caitlyn!!! Say something! :D
Caitlyn
09-03-05, 04:40 PM
Thanks for all the well wishes... I can't stay long but I did want to let you guys know I was okay... just extremely tired... and at a loss as how to describe what I've seen in the last few days...
Tacitus
09-03-05, 04:42 PM
Thanks for all the well wishes... I can't stay long but I did want to let you guys know I was okay... just extremely tired... and at a loss as how to describe what I've seen in the last few days...
:)
Thanks for all the well wishes... I can't stay long but I did want to let you guys know I was okay... just extremely tired... and at a loss as how to describe what I've seen in the last few days...
Just glad to know you're alright. Hope you're safe and sheltered. I can't imagine what it's been like down there, but we're all hoping and praying for the best. Stay safe, Caity! :)
Best of luck to you and I thank God that you are okay. Please stay safe.
Tea Barking
09-03-05, 05:08 PM
Good to know you're ok :)
firegod
09-03-05, 05:57 PM
God damn I feel so much better. Good luck with everything, Caity.
Darth Stujitzu
09-03-05, 06:58 PM
Glad you're safe and well, seems like a lifetime ago since we heard from you.
Keep us posted with what's going on once you get time.
Huge sense of relief to know you are ok.
Thanks for all the well wishes... I can't stay long but I did want to let you guys know I was okay... just extremely tired... and at a loss as how to describe what I've seen in the last few days...
Caity!
Is it ever good to hear from you! Thanks for taking the time to let us know how you are. Take-care...get some rest...and we love you. :kiss:
Piddzilla
09-03-05, 09:24 PM
Ah Caity.... It's good to hear from you. :) Be careful and don't try doing all the hard work yourself... Be content with half or at least 2/3.
I hope all your friends and family are ok too.
Hi Caity! I am so glad you're alright. You made my day to have me know you are still with us. Godspeed and take care of yourself and your family too. :)
PS. - PM me when ya get officially get back. :D
Thanks for all the well wishes... I can't stay long but I did want to let you guys know I was okay... just extremely tired... and at a loss as how to describe what I've seen in the last few days...
Let me know if you need help, really glad to hear you're okay.
Thanks for all the well wishes... I can't stay long but I did want to let you guys know I was okay... just extremely tired... and at a loss as how to describe what I've seen in the last few days...
So glad you are ok, we have all been very concerned, :kiss: :love: :kiss: :love: :kiss:
blibblobblib
09-03-05, 10:34 PM
Thanks Caity and everyone else. GOD its good to know your all OK. In the UK we can onlyngo by the news we hear... *phew*
Thank God.
I can't even imagine how much rep Cait's getting right now. ;)
SamsoniteDelilah
09-04-05, 01:36 AM
SO glad to hear you're ok Caity!
Keep safe in the days to come.
Rest well. :)
Thank God.
I can't even imagine how much rep Cait's getting right now. ;)
As if she needed it. :D
birdygyrl
09-04-05, 12:59 PM
Thanks for all the well wishes... I can't stay long but I did want to let you guys know I was okay... just extremely tired... and at a loss as how to describe what I've seen in the last few days...
God bless you Caity and keep you strong. You have all of us pulling for you and sending our love.
John McClane
09-06-05, 10:29 PM
Don't worry. We got your back. How bout you come live with me for a while? :)
i am so glad to hear from you caity...after all that i have heard and seen....
good to know that you are out there and are able to help...
thanks for letting us know and hope that things get better for you guys as fast as possible...
Piddzilla
09-08-05, 09:44 AM
During the last week, one week and a half, there's been this story in swedish news media about a swedish airforce plane loaded with two mobile purifying works. The works can provide, I think it was, 15.000 people with 7 liters (ca 1,8 gallons) of clean water each/day. The swedish authorities have requested the american federal authorities to permit the plane to land on US territory so the help can get to New Orleans and other disaster struck areas. The plane with the works and a bunch of experts has been ready to take off since sunday, only problem is that USA has turned down the offer.
I know what the media are like and how they try to blow everything out of proportion and I thought perhaps that the plane was just an exception. But apparently the US federal authorities have declined or ignored help from almost all countries that have offered it. I also learned just now that the Washington Post has noted the story of the swedish plane. So, I guess it is quite a big of a deal after all.
I read in the paper today that 64 countries have offered USA help after Katrina. The article isn't clear about whether USA has turned all of these offers down though.
I just wonder... Why, when all possible help is needed, does the federal bureaucracy in Washington not make it as easy as possible for the help to get through to those in need? Of course there can be several reasons for this. One being the bureaucracy itself; there's so many countries wanting to help so the authorities don't have the time usually needed to handle all the different errands. But these conditions aren't usual conditions. Away with bureaucracy!! Another reason, which I hope isn't the actual one, is that Washington for the sake of political prestige doesn't want USA to appear as needing help from other countries, especially not european countries.
I really don't know what to think of all this, only that it's no positive thoughts. What do you guys think? I mean the official request for permission to land was sent to US like over one week ago! I mean, if it was up to the authorities on state and local levels, the help would be on its way a long time ago, don't you think?
joshuafor
09-08-05, 11:53 AM
I just got an email saying UNICEF is going to be helping down there...they really need all the help they can get.
But apparently the US federal authorities have declined or ignored help from almost all countries that have offered it. I also learned just now that the Washington Post has noted the story of the swedish plane. So, I guess it is quite a big of a deal after all.I'd heard that, too, but Rice says otherwise:
http://usinfo.state.gov/eur/Archive/2005/Sep/05-998122.html?chanlid=eur
I mean, if it was up to the authorities on state and local levels, the help would be on its way a long time ago, don't you think?Actually, the more we learn about things, the more it seems the state government was one of the major culprits here. Apparently they blocked the Red Cross from assisting those trapped in the Superdome and Convention Center (http://hughhewitt.com/archives/2005/09/04-week/index.php#a000211) because they didn't want to encourage people to stay, or even come back after evacuating.
There's a lot of digging left to do, but last I checked the federal government had declared New Orleans a Disaster Area 48 hours before the hurricane hit, had mobilized troops about the same time, and urged Mayor Nagin to evacuate the night before he actually did so. This is not to say they are without blame, but from what I've read so far, the state and local government (who, simply by their virtue of being local and knowing the area, should probably have most of the authority) may have failed to either a) act accordingly itself or b) defer to the federal government.
Without getting into the who should have done what issue (which I plan to do, as things play themselves out, at a later date.) I know without a doubt no other single agency in the U.S.other than the Defense Department has the resources to handle such a disaster of this magnitude. Reguardless of who whould have done what the National Guard could have done more and sooner.
Piddzilla
09-08-05, 04:35 PM
Yeah, I guess there will be time to get deeper into this later on, as 7 says. But those links Chris posted doesn't give an answer to my question why the swedish purifying works aren't on american ground right now instead of still being on swedish ground. Rice didn't mention how many countries that actually are helping out or why not all of the help is being accepted. She clearly states that the help is needed though. We'll see...
Then about what you said regarding the local government and that they should have the most authority, Chris. Well sure they should, but they don't have the most authority. These things, like international aid and military assistance, are being decided on a federal level, am I wrong? So what more could local authorities have done on those things? They did ask for help, didn't they? And the beforehand warnings and evacuation decisions are all fine, but it's what happened after the hurrican struck - or what did not happen - that seems to puzzle people watching it all from a distance.
I'm not taking a shot at Bush here, really I'm not. There should be a plan for this sort of thing, some kind of disaster unit that will mobilize whatever help is needed and that is at the disaster area within 24 hours. When the tsunami struck South East Asia and around 500 swedish citizens died the swedish government didn't react quickly enough. And the government and resposible people were butchered in media and by the public. Well-earned. The italian rescue team was in fact on the ground within 24 hours, because of living with volcanos and stuff they have the plan I'm talking about and were prepared. But most important, they reacted instantly. And, to me, it is very surprising that one of the world's richest countries, with the greatest military force in the universe, after 9-11, after the tsunami, after previous hurricanes, apparently does not have a plan on a federal level to quickly and in full force tackle a situation like this. Because, and of course I can be wrong, that is what it looks like from where I stand. I just don't get that.
Finally, I would like to say that when the help finally arrives and is properly organized the people - on all levels - seem to be doing a tremendous job and that is wonderful to see. I just wish someone would grease up the machinery of bureaucracy a bit... correction: a lot. Oh yeah, and I wish our plane would get that damn permission to land.
SamsoniteDelilah
09-08-05, 05:45 PM
Piddy, I'm totally with you on this. It's been disheartening, to say the least, watching the keystone cops response to this disaster. The US has declined some offers of help, and so has the Red Cross, for that matter.
The ONLY reason I can think of for the refusal of help on the federal level (meaning help from other countries) is that with all the chaos and shooting, they feared having foreign aid suppliers picked off by some gun-toting bayoo rat, and rather than have that diplomatic nightmare to deal with, they are waiting til that part of it calms down.
As for your point about the Italian response to the tsunami, in contrast to the Katrina situation, you're absolutely right that it's staggaring that with all that warning, we could be caught with out pants not just down, but 3 sizes too small. We've been waiting for The Storm Of The Century for just about a century. There are people whose job it is to plan for things like this. There were days of warning. If this is our response to something that presents a threat for days before it hits, we are utterly unprepared to combat large-scale terrorism at home. It's terrifying.
here is a list supposedly of all the aid that fema turned down
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=108508
there are other stories on there as well..
read at your risk...
HellboyUnleashed
09-08-05, 11:58 PM
I think maybe the main reason for turning down other countries help is that maybe we think or they actually want money or help in their countries from us in exchange. I really have no clue, that's just my hypothesis. I think that we either don't have the resources or money to help them if that is the case, seeing as how we are in such great debt ourselves and that we can't take their help if thats what they want. I do think that not letting the Red Cross help in the Superdome and Convention Center because they need to get out of there is stupid. People might want to stay there, they might be comfortable there. Let them stay where they want to and leave some Red Cross doctors there to help them, not force them out. It is my observation that people are easier to deal with when they are some place that they are familiar with.
Piddzilla
09-09-05, 08:56 AM
I think they just don't know how to organize everything....
joshuafor
09-12-05, 12:47 PM
Wanted to pass along a phone number for people missing loved ones and friends due to the hurricane...the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children has set up a hotline to report people who haven't been found...I guess over 1,000 children are missing still...Call 1-888-544-5475 to report a missing person and give some information about them...I guess volunteers are combing the region and the various shelters trying to find people that have been seperated from family. Thought it was super-important to post...
Hey Caity-lyn! So glad you're OK :) New Orleans needs its finest at a time like this.
And Equil, you keep scrapping away too. Good luck to y'all. I wish there was more we could all do to help.
Caitlyn
09-20-05, 03:03 PM
NBC is showing some great footage of police officers looting stereo systems. When the reporter asked them what they were doing they replied, “We’re saving the stereos”.
Classy.
Did anyone else see this? I have looked and looked and can't find anything about it…
blibblobblib
09-20-05, 04:27 PM
I was sent these pics by email. Apprently they are of approaching Katrina but im not sure how true that is. The last few look like some photos of tornados forming. Either way they are truly astonishing photos...
http://static.flickr.com/28/45088998_acabb693fa_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/26/45088999_a252139eca_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/30/45089000_bea8bbe4fc_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/25/45089003_8b0a6c37b3_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/33/45089004_4f6e68d7c1_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/30/45089564_0e1d518443_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/24/45089566_95d6caba63_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/26/45089565_0c36bfd9a0_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/24/45089002_9e89049312_o.jpg
The last one reminds me of War of the Worlds...
These are beautifully shot...you should send them to National Geographic Magazine to get them published.....seriously. Especially the last one.
Hey Blib, my rep giving ability still isn't working for me. :furious: But when it does, you'll be definitely be getting some. :cool: :yup: ;)
SamsoniteDelilah
09-20-05, 05:09 PM
blibby, those pics are positively amazing!!!
:eek:
Ash_Lee
09-20-05, 05:22 PM
I love the 2nd one!
Blister
09-20-05, 05:55 PM
wow.....just wow. those pictures are jaw dropping.
blibblobblib
09-20-05, 08:07 PM
Glad you guys like them, they are truly awe inspiring arnt they? The power of the earth we now know all too well...
those pics are amazing...thanks for sharing...
south florida was under a tornado watch all afternoon...we only got a little bit of rita in palm beach county...and i did hear that the keys were lucky....we have pics as well, but they will have to wait until i get home
Equilibrium
09-21-05, 03:54 PM
those pics are awesome looking...
but uhh...hurricanes don't look like that..the tornados might but not the hurricanes
blibblobblib
09-21-05, 04:20 PM
Yeah Taccy has just confirmed these photos arnt photos of Hurricane Katrina. I studied some meteorology during college and i doubted these were photos of the beginning of a hurricane. Hurricanes are just too big to photograph from the ground. Especially one the size of Katrina.
SamsoniteDelilah
09-21-05, 04:26 PM
They're still amazing photos... of a thunderstorm supercell in Iowa, though. :D
That Tacitus... not much gets past him!
Equilibrium
09-22-05, 05:44 PM
They're still amazing photos... of a thunderstorm supercell in Iowa, though. :D
That Tacitus... not much gets past him!
what does tacitus have anything to do with this?
SamsoniteDelilah
09-22-05, 05:52 PM
what does tacitus have anything to do with this?
Yeah Taccy has just confirmed these photos arnt photos of Hurricane Katrina...
Taccy=Tacitus
He was skeptical that the photos were Katrina, found a site that debunks the email making the rounds and then found the site of the guy who made the photos originally. He's cool that way.
Equilibrium
09-22-05, 06:11 PM
Taccy=Tacitus
He was skeptical that the photos were Katrina, found a site that debunks the email making the rounds and then found the site of the guy who made the photos originally. He's cool that way.
ahhh got..yeah NO hurricane looks like that...theres clouds extending miles and miles from the center of the storm so it all belnds in and looks like a thunderstorm....
what i would like to see is what it looks like in the eye of the hurrcane...u know calm and peaceful and what not
SamsoniteDelilah
09-22-05, 06:59 PM
ahhh got..yeah NO hurricane looks like that...theres clouds extending miles and miles from the center of the storm so it all belnds in and looks like a thunderstorm....
what i would like to see is what it looks like in the eye of the hurrcane...u know calm and peaceful and what not
Yeah, I've been through 2 of 'em, myself - hurricaines, not their eyes. I imagine the eye is a lot like right before the rain starts. You know how it gets breathtakingly crystal clear and beautiful, right before?
I would like to say how sorry I am for the people who's lives got trashed (or worse) by these 2 hurricanes, hope they can get through it.
Don't mean to rant, but like to add my 5 cents on the subject.
For last 20 years smart people warned about looming effects of global warming - air and most importantly water is getting hotter (Mexican Gulf is 4-5 degrees warmer, Caribbean sea - 3*, World's oceans - up 1.5-1.9 degrees), the result is stronger and bigger hurricanes, like last 2 (Katrina & Rita, could these names be less appropriate).
So who is to blame? All of us who use to much electricity, do not properly recycle, but most importantly drive gasoline wasting vehicles. I tried & failed to convince my parents to buy hybrid car, but now they are freaking out about the price of oil (gasoline, heating oil & gas). Personally I haven't driven a car in more then 3 years, I get around on my bicycle or a bus, every 2 weeks I go with them on a shopping run. Still I think the best example is Willie Nelson he tours on a bus that runs on biodiesel (diesel fuel + cooking oil leftovers say from McDonalds), also both of his cars run mixture of low-grade gasoline & vegetable oil, with the prices as they are now he actually better off.
But without a government program to move us as a country to better forms of transportation or at least alternative fuel, and to more ecologically sound electricity generation (solar, wind, bio & thermonuclear), we will never move fast enough to prevent ecological disaster (could be as soon as 10-15 years from now). So Bush & his father & Reagan, along with Republicans (who control all of the branches of the government), as well as a few corporate Democrats are responsible for US not even trying to change thing for the better (not being a part of Kyoto treaty is just one of the crimes of current administration).
It is economically sound investment to spend more on cleaner ways of functioning, because the alternative is starting to get clear to even the most conservatives.
The fact that current Federal government is completely ignorant & inept should be clear by now, but putting inexperienced cronies into the most important posts like head of FEMA (and other positions having to do with our safety) is criminal. The local & state government is partially to blame for not doing enough to save people and protect New Orleans, but it has mostly to do with burocrathy & waste of resources. But their failings were exacerbated by the funds that were cut by the congress for construction & improvement of levies. And now Hurricane Rita has made things even worse for the Gulf coast, and showed that we are still not properly prepared.
So do I think that Bush should resign? Of cause, but it's not going to happen. Should he be impeached, by all means and immediately, but for that we need Democrats in charge of the House, for which we will have to wait another year. Meantime Wolfowitz our face in UN is already planning another war - now with Iran, how long can this country take this abuse from blind, deaf & stupid corporate governing "elite", let's hope we can take another year.
Caitlyn
08-28-06, 07:15 PM
I probably won't be around for a while… so, I'll see you guys when I can…
Anyone have any extra floaties…
It's hard to believe it has been a year since I posted this… but even harder still to believe everything that followed.... and that so many still need help....
EQ, where are you at now?
So glad you are still around Caity :kiss:
Equilibrium
08-30-06, 01:00 AM
It's hard to believe it has been a year since I posted this… but even harder still to believe everything that followed.... and that so many still need help....
EQ, where are you at now?
I'm in Kenner now. It sucks here,nothing is open at night.
Cait where you hanging out these days?....:) Miss ya.
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