facebook group: stop censoring movies for profit

Outbreak, are you, or have you ever been a member of The Communist Party?

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What would make you say such a thing...

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I've read The Communist Manifesto as well as other writings by Marx, and while I agree he is on to something in regards to the problem, I don't agree with the solution.

Yeah, but you're banned from Vienna so what do you know really?

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We are both the source of the problem and the solution, yet we do not see ourselves in this light...

The only thing that I know, is that I know nothing.

At least you've got a jumping off point.

but u dont just cut an awesome scene like a topless chick to obtaain a rating thats unamerican

haha no i am not... although I've read the Communist Manifesto twice (once for school and once just cuz) and I strongly believe in the 'theory' behind it, but I just don't think or believe that it could work in a practical sense in our world.
I've also read a bunch of Utopian novels such as William Morris' News from Nowhere, and they all seem to embrace Communism, or at least Socialism as one of the main reasons for said Utopia

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The thing about it is... not all movies are American! movies are made all throughout the world.

In the P.R.C. a movie can be banned for no apparent reason, but the higher-ups didn't like the message. THAT is an example of censorship that's wrong. If you are financing the movie, I think you could do whatever you want with the movie (to a certain extent of course)... including getting scenes cut to make a particular rating. I don't necessarily agree with it, but it's their money and in part, their movie.

every movie is better with boobs in it

you seem to have me bested with your flawless arguments... Touché to you sirrah... touché

ok name a movie which u think a topless scene has tainted and why

Kathy Bates naked in a hottub in About Schmidt, 'nuff said
plus i hear the new Jonas Brother's movie has them with out shirts, but i guess that was tainted for having the JB in it
and just about every movie with pointless nudity... You are not any better for it, and neither is the story and if you want to see boobies, go to google, or i can give you several more... erm 'colourful' sites

I believe you, millions wouldn't, but I do.

Props to this troll post, this made me laugh out loud.

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how is that a troll post?

I think he meant retarded.

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I'm sorry, but if you want to see softcore porn, go to the store that sells merchandise like that. Or are you not old enough?

If you can't look past one scene getting cut so that the film can keep the message it's trying to convey, you've got no business critiquing films based on the "rack-o-meter."

This whole thread isn't about censorship at all, rather just your problem with one movie, isn't it? When I think of censorship, I think of some radical director that is so stuck in his ways, that he has to educate the mass population on what he feels is the correct way society should be living. These items the director is probably wanting in his film probably range from subtle to blindingly obvious. Any producer who has their name on this, probably wouldn't want to be associated with a radical film such as what the director is aiming for. The producer doesn't want to rob the director of their vision, but rather stifle the direction in which he's heading by toning it down. So, the producer can either a) pull out and the director will lose all financial contributions or b) persuade the director to remove certain elements, while still conveying the message they're aiming for.

Case in point, your movie that you're so upset about. The director probably raised the "booby" quota just to appease those Paul Rueben fans in the audience who like jerkin the gerkin. The producer, whose financially invested in the film, opted for a lower rating (without ruining the story) in an effort to make a profit. It's all very understandable. If I was investing my money in something, I would want to make sure I was going to pull a return and, at the minimum, break even.

Regardless of what you may think, you have a lot of growing up to do.

How is this related at all to the thread topic, though? I don't recall the thread being about whether or not boobs make a film better.

You say it's "Un-American" to cut scenes from a film, but the reason they do it is extremely capitalist; they want the film to make more money, so they want to get the film released with the rating that will draw the largest audience. Far from communism, if you ask me.

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By "troll post," I think he just means that it's not serious, and not part of an actual discussion. It's just messing around to get a reaction. Most trolling is a little more inflammatory, but I suppose the idea is the same.