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You know what? One thing that always boggled me was when men feel attracted to other men that dress and act like women.

I would ask my self "wouldn't it be a lot easier to just feel attracted to a woman?" but it isn't as simple as that.
There's a scene in Danish Girl where a gay guy hits on Lili (the trans woman). It was not Lili's thing. She didn't identify as a gay man.



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I have a question and if this is too personal, no problem if you prefer to not answer. This came up on the danish girl board a while back and made me curious. As a trans woman how do you identify your sexuality eg are you attracted to men, women or both (or even neither) and how do you identify that? eg if a trans woman is attracted to women does she regard herself as a lesbian?

I hope that makes sense.
I honestly think it's better to think of that aspect in different words than homosexual & heterosexual because it gets too confusing.

This is a better way to think about it: we lean towards philogyny (love of women) or philandry (love of men). And honestly, I could go either way. Love is love.
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You can't win an argument just by being right!
I honestly think it's better to think of that aspect in different words than homosexual & heterosexual because it gets too confusing.

This is a better way to think about it: I lean towards philogyny (love of women) or philandry (love of men). And honestly, I could go either way. Love is love.
Thanks for your answer, Kendra. I hope you find someone special to share your life with.



eg if a trans woman is attracted to women does she regard herself as a lesbian?
I suppose it depends on the individual, but the answer to that is probably yes.

I became friends with a woman on another forum who is married to a transwoman. Both partners identify as lesbian.



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I suppose it depends on the individual, but the answer to that is probably yes.

I became friends with a woman on another forum who is married to a transwoman. Both partners identify as lesbian.
In the movie this topic wasnt touched upon, but after reading about the rel couple I think Lili identified as a straight woman because she had a boyfriend she wanted to have a child with. Beautiful movie if you havent seen it.



You can't win an argument just by being right!
You know what? One thing that always boggled me was when men feel attracted to other men that dress and act like women.

I would ask my self "wouldn't it be a lot easier to just feel attracted to a woman?" but it isn't as simple as that.
I had a think about this before answering further. From strictly my point of view, comes down to a meeting of two minds. Bryan Fuller, a gay man, explored this in Hannibal. He talked about the idea of pure love, and a platonic love between two straight men. Hannibal was probably fluid, but Will was a straight man, yet they met on a deep plane of existence.

Probably not making sense but when Kendra said 'love is love' it got me thinking.

hey look at me, I'm hijacking back to movies s examples. Go me.



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I hve another question so thanks for allowing us to share this personal stuff with you. Is the hormone treatment enough on it's own to develop breasts or will you need to possibly consider implants down the track?

Also, not really relevant but I;m curious about your medical system compared to ours. Does private insurance cover any of your bills (both medical and the psychiatric review you need to go through)? I don't think either private or government covers it here but I;m not 100% sure on that. I think I saw somewhere recently it's only covered in one scandinavian country at the moment.

Final nosy question, are the bills expensive and if so, would you consider going to somewhere like Thailand to have medical procedures done?



Update: I had Yoda close this thread because he felt--respectfully--that the thread might begin to be a bother. At first I disagreed when he offered to close it but it did get to be too much so I asked him to close it.
This thread now serves as a public service, because it lets us know that Yoda (or other moderator... but c'mon, is there really any other moderator? ) can re-open a thread that's been closed.

So basically, if you're not here to support me or ask questions in a respectful manner, then I'm just gunna ignore ya. Mmk?


Sounds like a plan, man!



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Well, the difference here is I was the one who made the thread, I was the one to say close it, and I was also the one to say open it. So like...context.



Well, the difference here is I was the one who made the thread, I was the one to say close it, and I was also the one to say open it. So like...context.
Understood. But I didn't know if it could be done at all - like, for all I knew, if they get closed maybe they get deleted or what not. Know what I mean?



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I hve another question so thanks for allowing us to share this personal stuff with you. Is the hormone treatment enough on it's own to develop breasts or will you need to possibly consider implants down the track?
Yes, HRT will be enough for me to develop breasts and, as a matter of fact, it has already started. But it's anybody's guess as far as what size I will eventually end up growing.

Also, not really relevant but I;m curious about your medical system compared to ours. Does private insurance cover any of your bills (both medical and the psychiatric review you need to go through)? I don't think either private or government covers it here but I;m not 100% sure on that. I think I saw somewhere recently it's only covered in one scandinavian country at the moment.

Final nosy question, are the bills expensive and if so, would you consider going to somewhere like Thailand to have medical procedures done?
I have good insurance, so yes, this stuff is covered. My prescriptions only cost a few dollars a month, and I'm using a flexible spending account to fund any out of pocket costs.

I don't know where I stand on surgery just yet. And yeah, Thailand is the best place to get that bottom stuff done because they're cheap but also because they are the best at what they do.



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Yes, HRT will be enough for me to develop breasts and, as a matter of fact, it has already started. But it's anybody's guess as far as what size I will eventually end up growing.

I have good insurance, so yes, this stuff is covered. My prescriptions only cost a few dollars a month, and I'm using a flexible spending account to fund any out of pocket costs.

I don't know where I stand on surgery just yet. And yeah, Thailand is the best place to get that bottom stuff done because they're cheap but also because they are the best at what they do.

Amazing that synthetic hormones work that fast, isnt it.

Wow I;m surprised at how little your scripts cost. My HRT is about 40 bucks month, and I have to take those suckers for 10 years. Good for you, though.

As for Thailand, yeah wow some of the most beautiful women I've ever seen were trans women in Bangkok.

I see what Cap is saying up above. I also thought closed threads got nuked. I'm very happy this one was still alive and Yoda could retrieve it. It's very informative.



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Amazing that synthetic hormones work that fast, isnt it.
I actually take a form of estrogen that's derived from plants so it's not synthetic per se.



So it sounds like you didn't know your gender for a while. What made you realise it?



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So it sounds like you didn't know your gender for a while. What made you realise it?
That's a good question, pony.



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So it sounds like you didn't know your gender for a while. What made you realise it?
That's a good question, pony.
Yes, it's an excellent question.

Well, I honestly think I had an inkling of it back in high school but just refused to admit it and went about repressing the feeling. I live in a conservative/hicksville area so when I was growing up the LGBT community was always presented to me as sinful/wrong/deviant. Obviously, this didn't help things.

Flash forward to college where I learned a lot, but the most important thing I learned was that the ways and things I had been taught before college were not all entirely true/correct. This would eventually help me in coming to my "awakening."

It was all down hill from there: I started working at a hotel in an area that almost exclusively hired men (tech services), and it wasn't until I switched to housekeeping, which was almost exclusively female, that I was able to bare going to work. I also got messed up with the wrong crowd and got into drugs pretty hard, so I had several experiences during that time that just reinforced what I was trying to suppress; and finally, I attended one semester in the co-ed master's program at an all-girls school (I was the only guy in my classes), and it was then that everything started to feel right. It was during that time (back in 2014) that I went out and got my navel pierced, and the rest after that has been history. This was also around the same time as Jenner's big reveal and the explosion of transgender related news.



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What's your view on Angelina Jolie's child taking trans drugs pre puberty, Kendra? I don't have a view on this at all, just curious what you think. If it had been available at that age for you, do you think it would have made life easier, or do you not agree with pre pubescents being given the script at all?



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What's your view on Angelina Jolie's child taking trans drugs pre puberty, Kendra? I don't have a view on this at all, just curious what you think. If it had been available at that age for you, do you think it would have made life easier, or do you not agree with pre pubescents being given the script at all?
That's between them and their child, and I'm not sure where you read that their child is taking anything. I haven't seen anything to that effect.

As far as making life easier, I honestly don't think this process is easy at any age.



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That's between them and their child
I agree, and their specialists.

It was all the buzz on the imdb board at the time of the marriage breakdown. People were speculating that was the reason for it, but you know, celebrity stans like making poop up from headlines in gutter press. They dont even bother reading the 'articles' and when they do they're incapable of reading between the lines. I'll see if I can find an article about it.

As an aside, without a doubt the worst boards on imdb were actor's individual boards.



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I agree, and their specialists.

It was all the buzz on the imdb board at the time of the marriage breakdown. People were speculating that was the reason for it, but you know, celebrity stans like making poop up from headlines in gutter press. They dont even bother reading the 'articles' and when they do they're incapable of reading between the lines. I'll see if I can find an article about it.

As an aside, without a doubt the worst boards on imdb were actor's individual boards.
Well, the people blaming the marriage breakdown are idiots because their kid has been wearing boys clothes since like...oh...forever.