Another School Shooting in America, is there an answer?

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There have been many factors that have been cited as a cause of mass school shootings, some seem plausible. We always hear about guns but what else could be the cause or causes of this?
Moral decay.

The collapsing of our culture.

The toxic environment we've created for ourselves.

The problem has nothing to do with guns. It has nothing to do with making sure the mentally ill are treated. It has everything to do with how people in America are living their everyday lives, unfulfilled, unsatisfied, miserable, pissed off, sick of everything, devaluing everything.



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Switzerland has military service as a requirement for ALL males. When they are done, they are given an empty pistol (no ammunition) as a gift, which they have to return back.

The median income is also $90,000 a year, and they don't pay billions for things we do like health care, etc... They don't slave their citizens to drop bombs on countries either. Forget the financial loss, what about the moral loss? Besides the fact the US has more guns than ever, we've been in perpetual war, a total lack of education and virtue. I've been to Switzerland, I have Swiss friends. It's a very peaceful, happy place just like many of the countries I've visited in Europe, not to mention Australia, which after their first mass shooting, they put in laws, hasn't been any since. ALL of England had 12 murders by handguns last year, and London by itself has 18 million people.

The key question is with changing times, will some insist to defend their group after spending so much time defending it.

Do you want the truth, or the ego massaged?



But there are things that are strictly pollitical such as the rules for immigration, the number of migrants from Syria you are willing to accept, etc. And if you are a man of Jesus who says you should help the poor, accept evil and instead of punishing evil to turn the other cheek you shouldn't want to build a massive wall between the United States and Mexico, you shouldn't ask yourself can we integrate a huge amount of immigrants in our country, you should say yeah it'll be hard economically, but we should do good, I really don't understand how can a man of god be for these policies which pretty much every republicans are.
Perhaps it is what a 21st century western, religious, mentality means, i think youve shown that regardless of the Extreme Religious Rights intentions their deport all immigrants approach will never happen, just like the Far Hippy Lefts let everyone in lets create an Utopia approach will never happen. Whenever anyone tries to place a full party at either far side (imo the average dem and rep are closer to each other than the far side of their own party and imo both far sides are equally as dangerous) i instantly zone out, also to use something you clearly don't believe in like the Bible makes me distance myself further since you are clearly using selected quotes without reading and understanding the full thing yourself.



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Perhaps it is what a 21st century western, religious, mentality means, i think youve shown that regardless of the Extreme Religious Rights intentions their deport all immigrants approach will never happen, just like the Far Hippy Lefts let everyone in lets create an Utopia approach will never happen. Whenever anyone tries to place a full party at either far side (imo the average dem and rep are closer to each other than the far side of their own party and imo both far sides are equally as dangerous) i instantly zone out, also to use something you clearly don't believe in like the Bible makes me distance myself further since you are clearly using selected quotes without reading and understanding the full thing yourself.
Let's get to the nomenclature. There is no Left in this country. Well, maybe in the 30's, and even later, half of them were FBI agents.

You can say Democrats are right-wing social democrats for context, but "LEFT" is anarchic, communist, socialist... Bernie Sanders is center-left. Hillary Clinton is on the left-wing of the right-wing. And as you said, there isn't THAT much difference with the large issues that separated the Democrat and Republican politicians. It's also easier for ones in power to inverse because their own party won't argue with them, and the opposing party won't say a thing because it's close to their ideology.



Let's get to the nomenclature. There is no Left in this country. Well, maybe in the 30's, and even later, half of them were FBI agents.
I wish that were the case in this hopelessly bastardized rotten little island. Most of our politicians make Trotsky look like a Nazi.



Perhaps it is what a 21st century western, religious, mentality means, i think youve shown that regardless of the Extreme Religious Rights intentions their deport all immigrants approach will never happen, just like the Far Hippy Lefts let everyone in lets create an Utopia approach will never happen. Whenever anyone tries to place a full party at either far side (imo the average dem and rep are closer to each other than the far side of their own party and imo both far sides are equally as dangerous) i instantly zone out, also to use something you clearly don't believe in like the Bible makes me distance myself further since you are clearly using selected quotes without reading and understanding the full thing yourself.


I wouldn't mind reading the bible, but there are so much good books that have been written that I don't think I'll lose my time with this one, but you can't blame me for quoting it, it is a beautiful message I think, I don't hate these kind of message I am just saying that christians aren't coherent to their dogmatic book.
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so true, not necessarily about Yoda but i know the type. I have a friend who will never stop arguing no matter how much is presented showing he's wrong. Sort of guy that could convince you Scotland won the last World Cup.
Which world cup? Curling? Cos even Yoda's not convincing anyone that Scotland won the world cup, let alone last year. Even Ally MacLeod could only convince you you'd won it before you kicked a ball.
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Which world cup? Curling? Cos even Yoda's not convincing anyone that Scotland won the world cup, let alone last year. Even Ally MacLeod could only convince you you'd won it before you kicked a ball.
Fictional or otherwise Yoda hasn't convinced me of anything. I'm still not sure yet but some are saying Germany won that last one, sounds plausible, yet there are still some weirdos out there saying Scotland didn't even qualify



And Columbine, the school shooting that had set this sick standard happened in the middle of the Clinton Assault Weapons ban which lasted from 1994, to 2004. Gun control does not work.


This song was inspired by a real life incident on Jan 29, 1979 which a 16 year old girl living across from an elementary school in San Diego Cal sniped the school yard killing 3 adults and wounding 8 defenseless children. The reason she gave was "I don't like Mondays". The girl, Brenda Ann Spencer, is still in prison because of it.
That's the first time I became aware of this. I was 6.



I can't listen to the song. But I get the point.

My point is though mass shooting have been around forever, it was Columbine where those two A-holes became heroes to many of the mass shooters who came next and when people think school shootings in modern times, Columbine is generally the first thing they think of.



My point is though mass shooting have been around forever, it was Columbine where those two A-holes became heroes to many of the mass shooters who came next and when people think school shootings in modern times, Columbine is generally the first thing they think of.
It feels like it's become unbelievably worse in just the past year! At least from 1979 to 1999, there was a big break. Even just a few years ago, it seemed like there might be one major shooting maybe once a year, if that. NOW, I swear to God, it's like there's a new shooting EVERY WEEK.

EVERY WEEK!

I am not surprised at all anymore when this happens. It's no longer shocking.

To me, it seems like it started with the shooting that happened at that theater when The Dark Knight Rises came out in 2012. It's become worse ever since then. But really, it didn't start then, either.

And how DARE they not even give that theater shooter the death penalty. All because of that one stupid, idiotic juror woman, whoever she was. That woman in Georgia who got executed the other night -- she can die, but the movie theater murderer can't? F**ked up.

Anyway....

BUT THIS YEAR!

This year it's happening just about EVERY WEEK.

And this latest one was really, really bad. A lot more people dead, a lot more wounded, and the killer sounds just absolutely even more evil than most -- if "more evil" can really apply to different killers.



And I don't feel safe out there anymore, to tell you the truth.

When I go out, I worry someone's gonna shoot and kill me.

Last time I went to the movies, I was on the lookout for someone walking in with a gun.



My point is though mass shooting have been around forever, it was Columbine where those two A-holes became heroes to many of the mass shooters who came next and when people think school shootings in modern times, Columbine is generally the first thing they think of.
I see. I don't know, but I have no trouble believing that's the case.45 mass shootings this year in the US so far apparently. I told you a few weeks ago that I was going to start that thread a few years back. I wonder how many posts I'd be up to now. That was one of the reasons I didn't do it. One of many, tbh.



I agree with what SC was saying there. Think he helps desensitise everything since he is so straightforward and great , he also shows his controversial hand allowing whoever to moan and whatever at him.