John Wick: Chapter Two

I really just want you all angry and confused the whole time.

Really the one thing that bugged me was how Perkin was dumb enough just to walk up to a meeting where she must have known she'd be killed. She broke the rules and she should have been aware of what that ment. [...] Either that, or she got an ego big enough to choke a donkey with.

First one was rubbish, so can't say i'm looking forward to this.

If ime honest i thought the whole story was pretty stupid. John Wick (Keanu Reeves) an Ex hitman goes on a crazy killing spree hunting down the guy's that killed his beloved dog, seriously... His dog. Okay, i know the dog was a gift left from his dead wife to keep him company, but c'mon he had the dog about a day. I don't know why the story just didn't focus on having his wife being murdered, i mean.. the story involves her being dead anyway and it would certainly justify John Wick killing 60,000 people with 60,000 bullets.

If i had to highlight something positive about John Wick then i'd have to say the action was pretty good. Its extremely violent, with non stop action throughout. Which is wierd because thats something i really enjoy from a movie, but due to its weak ass story the movie just feels to silly and to over the top.

I don't necessarily see him as "replacing" his first dog at the end. The first dog wasn't just supposed to be a normal gift from Helen to John, it was also supposed to help him with the grieving process by giving him something to care for while also not leaving him on his own after she dies. The fact that that got prematurely taken away from him - not just because it was an innocent puppy dying a violent death for no good reason, but also his last connection to his dead wife - is what really drove him to exact his vengeance on the underworld in order to make things right and help him process his loss. Him picking up another dog (and not just any dog, but a pitbull - a breed with an unfair reputation for being violent and one that's very far removed from his original beagle, which works because he's not just replacing the dog with an identical one - that's due to be put down) is supposed to indicate that he's finished grieving over his wife and his first dog and is ready to move on with his life. It's not going to have the exact same sentimental value as the first dog, sure, but that doesn't mean he has to abandon dogs completely - if anything, the fact that he willingly adopts a dog instead of passively receiving one as a gift only suggests that he's once again taking charge of a life that had been thrown into chaos by forces beyond his control. All things told, a good conclusion.

The hell you say, the world-building gave it a much-needed helping of personality to help distinguish it from all the usual "guy with a gun" movies.

Yeah I guess most people liked those parts. Really though the movie had enough of a personality already with the unique action,

Reeves' deadpan,

the goofy Russian accents,

the random offbeat stuff like the whole thing being about avenging a dead dog, etc.

But then every time it went back to that assassin hotel man it had me rolling my eyes

I mean, coming from someone with a Deadpool avatar who also gave Suicide Squad four out of five, I'm not sure that I really follow your reasoning for hating John Wick here. I'd argue the story is better for not being the umpteenth version of "guy gets revenge for murdered wife", which is a bad and tired trope these days. I'll just quote what I wrote when Omni brought up the same thing...

I'd like to state for the record that I don't share Optimus's denigration of the plot, I thought it was serviceable for what it was. My issue is with the... tepid (can't think of a better word at the moment) conclusion where he replaces the dog. I thought the dog was a sufficient catalyst for the events, I just wish they didn't use a dog.

Hmm...



I mean, coming from someone with a Deadpool avatar who also gave Suicide Squad four out of five, I'm not sure that I really follow your reasoning for hating John Wick here. I'd argue the story is better for not being the umpteenth version of "guy gets revenge for murdered wife", which is a bad and tired trope these days. I'll just quote what I wrote when Omni brought up the same thing...

Completely different movies. Deadpool is a movie that doesn't take itself serious and thats a whole part of the fun.

Speak for yourself. Just because the movie where a secret society of assassins has their own rules about hotels and gold coins doesn't have its protagonist mugging to the camera every ten seconds doesn't mean it's taking itself too seriously either.