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President Trump
Posted By Yoda
Re: President Trump

This thread seems to have become a non-specific catch-all for any political or cultural arguments, most of which become very quickly personalized. I'm not sure it's necessary any more. I'm closing it.
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President Trump
Posted By Yoda
Please note that I'm going to delete any future...

Please note that I'm going to delete any future posts like this, where you simply make an insulting assertion.
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President Trump
Posted By Yoda
Re: President Trump

I love children, I think having children is great and I'm certainly concerned (as any rational, informed person must be) about lowered birth rates. But the idea that having children is the only way...
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President Trump
Posted By Yoda
Re: President Trump

I think a red flag needs to go off in your head if you find yourself citing the same thing, over and over, as the cause of lots of different problems. What's more likely: that you've cracked some...
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President Trump
Posted By Yoda
Yeah, you can't (and shouldn't) conflate race...

Yeah, you can't (and shouldn't) conflate race with ideology. And I'm not sure it makes sense even if you do; I'm pretty sure that white people that have fewer children are disproportionately likely...
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President Trump
Posted By Yoda
Re: President Trump

I mean, it's pretty obvious in almost every debate that people reflexively rep people from their side.
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President Trump
Posted By Yoda
I think a good rubric is that it's not really...

I think a good rubric is that it's not really "being nice" if it comes easy. To be nice is to treat someone with civility even when part of you doesn't want to, the same way being brave first...
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President Trump
Posted By Yoda
I agree it shouldn't be the sole measure of a...

I agree it shouldn't be the sole measure of a user's worth. I'm kind of surprised at how often I ban someone and a dozen people don't get it or don't think it's warranted, ultimately just because...
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President Trump
Posted By Yoda
Re: President Trump

You could make an argument that the only way to make fascist policies plausible is to first persuade the population of their worth, which would necessarily mean a lot of rhetoric to that effect long...
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President Trump
Posted By Yoda
Re: President Trump

No, because I think it's a serious word that requires a lot more than intimations and posturing, which is most of what he does.

I don't mind people being on guard for it and calling out nascent...
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President Trump
Posted By Yoda
Re: President Trump

Gonna have to insist that people's replies in these controversial threads move the discussion along in some fashion, in addition to being civil. If you guys are just gonna volley disbelief, no reason...
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President Trump
Posted By Yoda
Wow. Have they elaborated on why? Foreign policy,...

Wow. Have they elaborated on why? Foreign policy, mainly?


In all honesty, I don't know, and was trying to allow for the fact that I don't know even though only one explanation really makes sense...
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President Trump
Posted By Yoda
Which, again, is totally cool. I'm just not nuts...

Which, again, is totally cool. I'm just not nuts about people lighting fires without sticking around to help put them out.


IPs (sometimes) give me general location, but I dunno where you work...
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President Trump
Posted By Yoda
I mean, the last time we argued you said...

I mean, the last time we argued you said something like this and literally never came back.

It's obvious your heart's not really in having a sustained discussion about any of this. Which is fine,...
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President Trump
Posted By Yoda
I think Sedai's "agreed" was about the reaction,...

I think Sedai's "agreed" was about the reaction, not about McCain being a "touchhole."


I think I'd just find it ridiculous, because I haven't said anything to suggest that I think this way.
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President Trump
Posted By Yoda
I'm guessing if I ask you to support this the...

I'm guessing if I ask you to support this the discussion will peter out pretty quick.


"when he was a celebrity businessman" = "when he was newly married." And you're leaving out the part where...
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President Trump
Posted By Yoda
So do I. But it shouldn't lead you to downplay or...

So do I. But it shouldn't lead you to downplay or excuse crappy behavior just because you really don't want to agree with them that it's bad. "Never take the wrong side of an issue just because your...
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President Trump
Posted By Yoda
...he already has, and you've already ignored it...

...he already has, and you've already ignored it or downplayed it for that very reason.

Crying wolf is a valid reason to criticize the media. It's not a valid reason to handwave away the actual...
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President Trump
Posted By Yoda
Re: President Trump

Er...yes? If you start describing why you don't, I assume it's going to primarily be because he supported and opposed things you didn't.
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President Trump
Posted By Yoda
Re: President Trump

Some are "crying" about it because they oppose him reflexively.

Others, because they still use criteria other than "is also a liberal" to determine whether someone is a good and valuable person.
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President Trump
Posted By Yoda
Re: President Trump

"Didn't grieve hard enough" = insulted a POW nonsensically because he didn't back a federal loan guarantee he wanted twenty years ago and still holds a petty grudge about it.

Stop defending crap...
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President Trump
Posted By Yoda
Re: President Trump

It's possible. We'll never know for sure, but I think the fact that someone like Trump beat her despite some pretty significant issues strongly suggests that she would've lost to a lot of other...
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President Trump
Posted By Yoda
Re: President Trump

I don't know what's going to happen with Trump, but I'm pretty sure every scenario where he stays in power involves progressive activists engaging in things like property destruction and finding...
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President Trump
Posted By Yoda
I guess at this point we need to ask what people...

I guess at this point we need to ask what people think "traitor" means. It really feels like it's just being used for emphasis, because people have run out of words to express their disgust and need...
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President Trump
Posted By Yoda
Sure, he's obviously a lot more enthusiastic...

Sure, he's obviously a lot more enthusiastic about that. But the point is that he didn't respond to one extreme by offering another, which is what you're suggesting by shoehorning some...