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Who will take on Obama in 2012?
Posted By Yoda
Also, I'd like to highlight some of the questions...

Also, I'd like to highlight some of the questions I asked in my last post (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=854533). We're going over a lot of that same ground anyway, and I'd...
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Who will take on Obama in 2012?
Posted By Yoda
The question itself has to be corrected. You say,...

The question itself has to be corrected. You say, according to free market theory, companies should "increase salaries to attract more labor." But this depends on your baseline. Increase compared to...
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Who will take on Obama in 2012?
Posted By Yoda
Re: Who will take on Obama in 2012?

There is, of course, a lot more to it than that. There's a lot of creative inertia there as well. But the reason is irrelevant to the point being made, which is about the result.
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Who will take on Obama in 2012?
Posted By Yoda
Re: Who will take on Obama in 2012?

At one point in that clip Smithers just lists a bunch of negative things about Romney. That's not "satire." That isn't witty. It's not even a joke. And while I expect Presidential candidates to get...
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Who will take on Obama in 2012?
Posted By Yoda
Every sale that has ever taken place is a "clash...

Every sale that has ever taken place is a "clash of two parties with two different interests," yet the overwhelming majority of them are mutually beneficial. The fact that they each push for their...
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Who will take on Obama in 2012?
Posted By Yoda
I don't; to the contrary, their desperation is...

I don't; to the contrary, their desperation is precisely why it's so important. This doesn't pose any problem for the arguments I'm making.


I didn't say it was the laborer's fault for accepting...
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Who will take on Obama in 2012?
Posted By Yoda
Here we go again. This is another iteration in...

Here we go again. This is another iteration in the cycle: you complain about entitlement cuts, I point out they're unsustainable, you offer no serious alternative, rinse and repeat. We've gone...
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Who will take on Obama in 2012?
Posted By Yoda
Given that you admit the employment helps these...

Given that you admit the employment helps these people, isn't the assumption behind your question that the employer has some special obligation to them? That would seem to be the case, because you're...
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Who will take on Obama in 2012?
Posted By Yoda
Of course they can't demand more in wages. You...

Of course they can't demand more in wages. You know how they can? If we manufacture there more. If we just stop hiring them, they go back to being even poorer. This is the reality against which you...
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Who will take on Obama in 2012?
Posted By Yoda
Of course the threat of hunger makes you more...

Of course the threat of hunger makes you more compliant to bad conditions. That means the opportunities are going to people who are really hungry. You know, the ones who need it most. The more...
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Who will take on Obama in 2012?
Posted By Yoda
I didn't say my standard of living was a baseline...

I didn't say my standard of living was a baseline for all; you were vague and dismissive, so I responded in kind. When you decided to talk about overseas labor, I started talking about that instead....
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Who will take on Obama in 2012?
Posted By Yoda
Less than what? Not less than they had, or they...

Less than what? Not less than they had, or they wouldn't take them. Which means you're trying to tell me, with a straight face, that we're hurting people by giving them better opportunities than they...
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Who will take on Obama in 2012?
Posted By Yoda
Giving people better jobs than they had is...

Giving people better jobs than they had is increasing their standard of living. That's why they're, you know, willing to take them.
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Who will take on Obama in 2012?
Posted By Yoda
Re: Who will take on Obama in 2012?

Good idea. You can come with me, and ask them what awesome job they had lined up before. I'm sure they all quit jobs as upper middle class graphic designers to be exploited manufacturing things.
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Who will take on Obama in 2012?
Posted By Yoda
Re: Who will take on Obama in 2012?

I felt so exploited reading that that I almost dropped my iPad.
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Who will take on Obama in 2012?
Posted By Yoda
Re: Who will take on Obama in 2012?

Er, no. I just asked you to stop swearing constantly in general. There's not a rule against it this, specifically, which is why I didn't delete anything of yours or threaten to ban you or anything.
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Who will take on Obama in 2012?
Posted By Yoda
Re: Who will take on Obama in 2012?

I'd say it's the kind of thinking caused by constantly imagining people who think differently as grotesque cartoons.
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Who will take on Obama in 2012?
Posted By Yoda
Re: Who will take on Obama in 2012?

Disaster relief is not handouts. I know you want to act like every conservative is trying to return us to some Hobbesian state of nature, because that's a lot easier to argue with, but it isn't...
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Who will take on Obama in 2012?
Posted By Yoda
If his income is purely from investments, then it...

If his income is purely from investments, then it is. Investments = good, so we have a tax code that encourages them. To say nothing of the fact that the invested income was taxed the first time he...
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Who will take on Obama in 2012?
Posted By Yoda
You know, something like half a dozen people...

You know, something like half a dozen people (that's not an exaggeration) have contacted me privately over the last several months to ask me why I bother talking to you at all. And you know what?...
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Who will take on Obama in 2012?
Posted By Yoda
And if they had issued a statement with...

And if they had issued a statement with "corrections" that contained a clear defense of free speech this entire situation would've unfolded differently. The bottom line is, if they had a problem with...
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Who will take on Obama in 2012?
Posted By Yoda
Except Obama's claims means, as I've been harping...

Except Obama's claims means, as I've been harping on this whole time, that he must have found it inappropriate too. He said he'd give them a pass because they were afraid, but giving someone a pass...
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Who will take on Obama in 2012?
Posted By Yoda
Yeah, I didn't say it was Obama's fault,...

Yeah, I didn't say it was Obama's fault, actually. Maybe don't launch into lectures about the "low road" until you're sure you know what's being said.

The screwups I mentioned are pretty much...
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Who will take on Obama in 2012?
Posted By Yoda
Here, let me summarize that for you: "whatever,...

Here, let me summarize that for you: "whatever, I'll bet more people agree with me, so I don't have answer anything!"

Here's what it comes down to: arguments are supposed to be about truth....
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Who will take on Obama in 2012?
Posted By Yoda
The White House, today: "This is not a case of...

The White House, today: "This is not a case of protest directed against the United States." Seriously. That's the quote.

I'm sure we can count on the media to keep reporting almost entirely on the...

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