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HollywoodSource 09-14-10 03:09 AM

Superman: Man of Steel
 
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Warner Brothers has until 2013 to release a Superman movie. After that they lose the rights to the Superman product to the original creators. Well, their heirs. Since the Judges ruling WB has been frantically trying to get a reboot up and running. Surprisingly they have done pretty well. Christopher Nolan, the man behind the huge success of the Batman movies and Inception has signed on to be the lead advisor. What does that mean? Well, it pretty much means that what Nolan says, goes. WB wouldn’t have it any other way.
So far we have rumors that Christopher’s brother, Jonathan Nolan will be directing the film. David Goyer, who has worked on Batman Begins and Blade has apparently sold his idea to WB on an action packed movie that would pit the Man of Steel against Lex Luthor and the alien super villain Brainiac.
Most likely we will not be seeing either Bryan Singer, or Brandon Routh having any involvement with this project. I personally hated Singers spin on Superman. The costume was horrible. The new “S” shield was OK, yet too small. The fact Supes had a son, who threw giant pianos was a bad idea as well. Lois Lane, Kate Bosworth looked as if she was 19 years old. Not really believable for a Pulitzer winning journalist. In fact the only two things I liked about the Superman Returns film was Brandon Routh, and the awesome plane scene. Unfortunately after that the movie went south in a hurry.
OK, enough about the past. Lets take a look at who could possibly fill in the huge red boots of Superman!
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John Barrowman: Best known for his role in Torchwood as Captain Jack Harkness.
Likelihood: Less than 5%
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Matthew Bomer: Best known for his role in White Collar as Neal Caffrey.
Likelihood: 10%
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Henry Cavill: Best known for his role in The Tudors as Charles Brandon.
Likelihood: 10%
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Jon Hamm: Best known for his role in Mad Men as Don Draper.
Likelihood: 15%
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Tom Welling: Best known for his role in Smallville as Clark Kent.
Likelihood: 15%
In reality it could be any one of these guys plus a few dozen more. Brandon Routh was pretty much an unknown when he got the role for Superman Returns. Tom Welling seems to be the favorite on the Internet seeing as he is his final season playing a young Clark Kent realising he is destined to become Superman.
Leave your thoughts in the comments or if you think we forgot to mention an obvious choice then let us know.

will.15 09-14-10 03:25 AM

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John Barrowman would be good. Maybe he is too good an actor?

Forget all that stuff about Superman having a child. It never happened.

genesis_pig 09-14-10 03:47 AM

Re: Superman: Man of Steel
 
What was this thread for then?


http://www.movieforums.com/community...914#post674914

will.15 09-14-10 03:54 AM

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Trial balloon?

He gave it a reboot.

HollywoodSource 09-14-10 03:57 AM

Originally Posted by will.15 (Post 674920)
John Barrowman would be good. Maybe he is too good an actor?

Forget all that stuff about Superman having a child. It never happened.
It's going to haunt me forever. LOL

nebbit 09-14-10 04:08 AM

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A big http://bestsmileys.com/superhero/2.gif fan :yup:

LuDiNaToR 09-14-10 05:45 AM

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we aint going to hear anything for a while here, we havnt even heard anything about the next batman.:)

Michael_10 09-14-10 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by HollywoodSource (Post 674917)
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Warner Brothers has until 2013 to release a Superman movie. After that they lose the rights to the Superman product to the original creators. Well, their heirs. Since the Judges ruling WB has been frantically trying to get a reboot up and running. Surprisingly they have done pretty well. Christopher Nolan, the man behind the huge success of the Batman movies and Inception has signed on to be the lead advisor. What does that mean? Well, it pretty much means that what Nolan says, goes. WB wouldn’t have it any other way.
So far we have rumors that Christopher’s brother, Jonathan Nolan will be directing the film. David Goyer, who has worked on Batman Begins and Blade has apparently sold his idea to WB on an action packed movie that would pit the Man of Steel against Lex Luthor and the alien super villain Brainiac.
Most likely we will not be seeing either Bryan Singer, or Brandon Routh having any involvement with this project. I personally hated Singers spin on Superman. The costume was horrible. The new “S” shield was OK, yet too small. The fact Supes had a son, who threw giant pianos was a bad idea as well. Lois Lane, Kate Bosworth looked as if she was 19 years old. Not really believable for a Pulitzer winning journalist. In fact the only two things I liked about the Superman Returns film was Brandon Routh, and the awesome plane scene. Unfortunately after that the movie went south in a hurry.
OK, enough about the past. Lets take a look at who could possibly fill in the huge red boots of Superman!
http://www.myhollywoodsource.com/wp-.../barrowman.png
John Barrowman: Best known for his role in Torchwood as Captain Jack Harkness.
Likelihood: Less than 5%
http://www.myhollywoodsource.com/wp-...0/09/bomer.png
Matthew Bomer: Best known for his role in White Collar as Neal Caffrey.
Likelihood: 10%
http://www.myhollywoodsource.com/wp-.../09/cavill.png
Henry Cavill: Best known for his role in The Tudors as Charles Brandon.
Likelihood: 10%
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Jon Hamm: Best known for his role in Mad Men as Don Draper.
Likelihood: 15%
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Tom Welling: Best known for his role in Smallville as Clark Kent.
Likelihood: 15%
In reality it could be any one of these guys plus a few dozen more. Brandon Routh was pretty much an unknown when he got the role for Superman Returns. Tom Welling seems to be the favorite on the Internet seeing as he is his final season playing a young Clark Kent realising he is destined to become Superman.
Leave your thoughts in the comments or if you think we forgot to mention an obvious choice then let us know.
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Likelihood 50%

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Likelihood 25%

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Likelihood 25%
:) :D

HollywoodSource 09-14-10 08:09 PM

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I'm going to tell you that those three actors have a combined 0% shot at starring as the next Superman.

It would be interesting to see Worthington in the role. They would have to go a little darker with the man of steel in that case.

genesis_pig 09-14-10 08:12 PM

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I think Guy Pearce is the best option... if he only beefs up...

Michael_10 09-14-10 08:20 PM

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http://www.flicksandbits.com/wp-cont...en-Memento.jpgHe has lean Muscle here, though it proves he has the ability to change his physical appearance for a part. To add, cutting body fat is a lot harder than gaining, if you are like most people. It's rare that Men in their 40's find it hard to gain weight. The difficult part is to add Muscle with that weight gain.

http://www.flicksandbits.com/wp-cont...en-Memento.jpg

genesis_pig 09-14-10 08:28 PM

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http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...ZfmS-nQ2PWcTM=


He surely does have the look... better him than Routh..

TheUsualSuspect 10-04-10 07:32 PM

Look who's directing the new Superman film

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will.15 10-04-10 07:47 PM

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The only Superman movie that had a good story was the second one. It shouldn't be hard at all to come up with a good story for a writer with imagination. Lex Luthor trying to destroy much of the Earth in a real estate swindle has to be one of the stupidest ideas of all time.

meatwadsprite 10-04-10 11:47 PM

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gg

genesis_pig 10-05-10 12:02 AM

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I have no reaction towards this news, but I agree with Will...

I only hope Lex Luthor isn't the main villain... & there are lots of action scenes.
Now I am growing even more curious about the casting.

genesis_pig 10-05-10 10:09 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwwpXIiSk2k&feature=player_embedded

HollywoodSource 10-05-10 02:24 PM


Zack Snyder (Dawn of The Dead, 300, Watchmen) has been confirmed as the new director for the upcoming Superman: Man of Steel film.

I am very excited about this. Snyder rejected the offer when he was asked to do Superman Returns. He didn’t have a clear vision for how he would handle it. I mean, Superman is the biggest and baddest superhero ever. Now that some time has passed and he has seen what David Goyer (writer) and Jonathan Nolan (writer) have come up with as far as a script, he is comfortable taking on such a huge project.

Snyder spoke with Deadline and had this to say:
“I’ve been a big fan of the character for a long time, he’s definitely the king of all superheroes, he’s the one. It’s early yet, but I can tell you that what David [Goyer] and Chris [Nolan] have done with the story so far definitely has given me a great insight into a way to make him feel modern. I’ve always felt he was kind of awesome. I’ll finish ‘Sucker Punch’ and get right at it.”
Snyder has been a part of some pretty great films, artistically speaking. 300 was a very unique and visualy pleasing film. So was Watchmen. They both had a fresh look to them that hadn’t been seen much in films before.
It will be fun and interesting to see what Snyder means when he says he wants to make Superman feel more modern. New costume perhaps?

Yoda 10-05-10 05:35 PM

OG- has a relevant article up on Hollywood.com called "Why Zack Snyder Is a Good Choice to Direct 'Superman'":

People complain that there's no originality in Hollywood, that every movie looks the same and that the Golden Era of the blockbuster ended years ago. And yet Snyder receives very little applause from his core fanbase for delivering films that are original, that don't look like every movie on the block, and that try to make lining up at a movie theater on opening night worth the wait and the $10 price tag.
Worth reading the whole thing. I go back and forth on Snyder, but the idea that he's not like every other director is pretty undeniable, I think, and he has a tremendous visual flair. Segments of Watchmen (if not the whole of the film) demonstrate pretty conclusively that this guy's got plenty of raw talent, which makes me optimistic that he'll become a better filmmaker over time. Technically, he's up there with anyone, and at a pretty young age, so I'm excited to see what might be capable of if and when he takes on more varied projects.

We shall see. Anyway, read the article. :)

will.15 10-05-10 05:49 PM

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Is Nolan still the producer?

Snyder's big problem he is a whiz with the camera, but not a strong storyteller. If Nolan stays involved he might neutralize that problem by making sure the screenplay remains solid.

Yoda 10-05-10 05:52 PM

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Nolan's still doing whatever he was supposed to be doing. I don't think we know how much like a traditional Producer this makes him, but yeah, his role, whatever it was, is still in place. Seems like a really nice balance.

DexterRiley 10-05-10 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by genesis_pig (Post 674925)

took the words right out of me mouth.

starting threads just to start threads is lame.

Yoda 10-05-10 06:34 PM

Re: Superman: Man of Steel
 
Eh, I dunno, that other thread's a lot more specific than this one. I'll allow it to reduce the confusion that might come from merging them.

DexterRiley 10-05-10 07:18 PM

Re: Superman: Man of Steel
 
With Christopher Nolan on board to be an advisor on the new Superman remake, who do you think would be a good actor to play the part of Kent/Superman?
OK, enough about the past. Lets take a look at who could possibly fill in the huge red boots of Superman!
:yup:

will.15 10-05-10 09:30 PM

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Adam Sandler can be Clark Kent and Superman can be CGI.

Cinema Kaiju 10-07-10 10:44 PM

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Snyder's visuals are a bit overbearing for me. I'm not saying I like a docile camera all of the time but his latest works occasionally verge on Michael Bay extremes. I know I'm likely to get a lot of flack for saying this but, personally, I liked the reserve he displayed coming out of the gates with his Dawn of the Dead remake better than his work on 300. Then again, his showy cinematography might be one of the things Singer's film was lacking in.

For another project I would lean toward someone else but, when it comes to big blue, Snyder might be a fit. As long as the film has its focus in action, and doesn't try to be yet another reboot (with the childhood flashback we've seen a billion and a half times), then I could see a Snyder Superman becoming a big success.

HollywoodSource 10-08-10 04:12 AM

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After seeing the trailer for his newest flick, Sucker Punch. I am very excited for the new Superman film.

HollywoodSource 10-21-10 12:56 PM

Vulture spoke with Armie Hammer about his latest film, The Social Network. During the interview, they asked him if he had had his agents call director Zack Snyder regarding the role of Superman. Hammer has been an internet rumor for the part.
Apparently they are looking for an older actor to portray the Man of Steel. Here is what he had to say:
You've made a lot of people's Superman fantasy-casting lists. Did you have your people put in a call to Zack Snyder, who's directing the reboot?

[Laughs.] You know what's funny? I did talk to my people recently about that for the first time, and I think they're going a little older with Superman. I hear they're going 35, 40.

Really? Wow, Jon Hamm will be excited.

Yeah, I don't know what that might mean.
So, just as they said. Jon Hamm has to be the early favorite for the part. I had Jon Hamm as a top candidate in an earlier story. I actually really like the fact that they are going in this direction. It makes me think they are going to go with a more, "don't mess with me or I'll mess with you" type character, as opposed to the, "boy scout" we saw in Superman Returns.


Monkeypunch 10-21-10 01:14 PM

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I'm really looking forward to this one, I want to see a truly awesome Superman movie again, like the first one.

I actually really like Jon Hamm as Superman. Somebody, make this happen!

DexterRiley 10-21-10 01:50 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01vojXK_mnA&feature=related

_JL_ 10-22-10 08:27 AM

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I actually like Snyder for this. And the talk of an older Superman makes a bit more sense even. Like somebody mentioned more of a jaded older and "life has taken its toll" type Superman. Could be interesting indeed.

Jenny Suski 10-28-10 06:45 AM

Jon Hamm for Superman. He needs to look like your Dad!!

jammy47 10-29-10 10:54 AM

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pierce brosnan would be the best suited.

will.15 10-29-10 01:38 PM

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Old Superman like George Reeves?

I doubt it.

The Lois Lane/Kent/Superman romantic triangle doesn't work if he is older. On the TV series it was always "Miss Lane" for Superman adressing Lois so they didn't have to worry about that.

DexterRiley 10-29-10 01:43 PM

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Since when did age of the male lead have anything to do with his ability to be paired with a young hottie in hollywood?

will.15 10-29-10 01:59 PM

Old Superman/young Lois messes up the chronology because Lois was a already a reporter when Clark was hired.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn9ZMbSjmVY&feature=related

spudracer 10-29-10 02:29 PM

Personally, the thought of Lex Luthor in yet another Superman movie just drives me crazy. The clear choice for a villain should be Doomsday.

What would be a better way to end the Superman franchise than by having the live-action "Death of Superman" storyline? Sure, keep Lex around for whatever reason, but they either need to have Zod or Doomsday as the villain.

That's my two cents. To this date, there are only two Superman films I appreciate, I and II. Everything else is cannon fodder.

DexterRiley 10-29-10 02:44 PM

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Henry Rollins as Bizarro Superman might be neat.

http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/P...llinsNoi01.jpg

http://io9.com/assets/resources/2008/02/Bizarro.jpg

will.15 10-29-10 02:48 PM

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Brainac also good villain.

It is also possible to get a good story out of Bizarro played straight without the cracked face and then Lex Luthor would work as he created him in an experiment gone wrong.

spudracer 10-29-10 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by DexterRiley (Post 689893)
Henry Rollins as Bizarro Superman might be neat.
Originally Posted by will.15 (Post 689896)
It is also possible to get a good story out of Bizarro played straight without the cracked face and then Lex Luthor would work as he created him in an experiment gone wrong.
I forgot about Bizarro. I'm not against Brainiac, but Superman needs an actual threat for a villain, Lex Luthor. If they were to reduce his screen time and put a majority of the focus on Superman and [Insert Villain Here], there would be a movie people want to see.

That's where Superman Returns faltered. Lex Luthor IS NOT a villain, he's the catalyst, end of story. To call him a villain is a slap on the face to other villains trying to make it in this crazy world.

DexterRiley 10-29-10 03:06 PM

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speaking of which, I've been waiting forever for a pinky and the brain movie.

if they can adapt underdog and the Tick, surely they can adapt that in the live-action/cgi realm.

spudracer 10-29-10 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by DexterRiley (Post 689902)
if they can adapt underdog and the Tick, surely they can adapt that in the live-action/cgi realm.
The Tick was pure brilliance that was misunderstood and canceled far before its time. Underdog was crap.

It would be interesting to see a live-action take on Pinky and the Brain, however.

will.15 10-29-10 03:14 PM

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That's the problem with Superman. He doesn't have many good villains because he's Superman. In the old fifties TV series he mainly just beat up a bunch of ordinary crooks.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEZx01YlJrQ

kn3wt 10-31-10 01:50 AM

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Tom Welling even though he is just an alright actor

DexterRiley 10-31-10 02:42 AM

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a neat spin might be if they cast

http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-pho...rds-g1iz09.jpg

Wilmer Valderama

WabbyTwax 11-08-10 10:34 AM

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I can't wait for a this newer Superman. This reminds me of how the Ang Lee directed Hulk film sorta tanked, but then when Edward Norton played the Hulk in the newer movie I was reallyl excited to see it. I know the newer Hulk movie didn't do so well but I really enjoyed it and I hope Edward Norton will be involved in the Avengers movies.

MovieMad16 11-08-10 10:41 AM

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i hear Nolan is thinking of doing a Superman Film. So let me get this straight.

We had the Sequel for Superman Returns (I liked it) but that never came around.

Christoper Nolan thinking of doing his own Superman film

And The Reboot entitled "The Man Of Steel" coming in 2011/2012.

They need to get their head sorted. Focus on The Reboot or Put it on Hiatus until they get it all sorted and levelled out.

will.15 11-08-10 02:25 PM

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Maybe Nolan will do realistic Superman. Only Superman has powers, which means like TV series he will beat up a bunch of regular crooks. Oh, I can harldy wait to see that!

MovieMad16 11-08-10 02:27 PM

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Or maybe Nolan shouldn't bother. He did Batman and i don't want to see Nolan tackle another Comic Book adaption. I like Nolan when he is more original and more adapted. Sequel To Inception or another clean cut idea. We will see after DKR.

MadMikeyD 11-08-10 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by WabbyTwax (Post 692888)
I can't wait for a this newer Superman. This reminds me of how the Ang Lee directed Hulk film sorta tanked, but then when Edward Norton played the Hulk in the newer movie I was reallyl excited to see it. I know the newer Hulk movie didn't do so well but I really enjoyed it and I hope Edward Norton will be involved in the Avengers movies.
Just FYI, Norton has been replaced by Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner (and motion capture Hulk) for The Avengers, with Lou Ferrigno providing Hulk's voice.

The last I heard (via ComicBookResources.com) Nolan is producing the new Superman film with Zach Snyder signed to direct.

genesis_pig 11-08-10 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by will.15 (Post 692952)
Maybe Nolan will do realistic Superman. Only Superman has powers, which means like TV series he will beat up a bunch of regular crooks. Oh, I can harldy wait to see that!
If that ever happens, I doubt I'd ever be excited to see another Superman movie.

Superman needs Supervillains, just the same way Batman needs his Insane villains.
Nolan better not go for that Ubermensch in a realistic world scenario here...

MovieMad16 11-08-10 03:06 PM

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whats your problem with Nolan ?

The Two Batman films were some of the best in the comic book genre ?
Inception cemented Nolan`s place as a legendary film director.

Seriously he is the future of this business.

Harry Lime 11-08-10 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by MovieMad16 (Post 692968)
whats your problem with Nolan ?

The Two Batman films were some of the best in the comic book genre ?
Inception cemented Nolan`s place as a legendary film director.

Seriously he is the future of this business.
Seriously. The End Is Nigh.

MovieMad16 11-08-10 03:19 PM

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whats that supposed to mean. lol

genesis_pig 11-08-10 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by MovieMad16 (Post 692968)
whats your problem with Nolan ?

The Two Batman films were some of the best in the comic book genre ?
Inception cemented Nolan`s place as a legendary film director.

Seriously he is the future of this business.
Please tell me which of statement above made you feel i had a problem with Nolan.

MovieMad16 11-08-10 03:26 PM

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you dont like his batman films. Sorry if i jumped into conclusions but that is how i saw it lol.

genesis_pig 11-08-10 03:36 PM

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I love Batman Begins, hence I defended it in another thread when you called it overrrated. A Batman film where Batman shows up in the second half & is still just about as entertaining as any batman film.. Many hated it, but I was one of the few that understood what direction Nolan was taking...

Dark Knight is absolutely brilliant in every aspect & probably the best Batman adaptation. Even though Batman Returns is a personal favourite of mine.

& Yes Nolan is one of the most talented directors now.
But I hate it when people praise that no other director could top Dark Knight.
It might be the best Batman adaptation till date, but his version is not the ideal one.
Bruce was the least interesting character in Dark Knight.

The ideal director for Batman would have been Kubrick. Blending a bit of surrealism with ultraviolent scenes & characters, Insanity to a shocking level & not to forget the gothic costumes.

MovieMad16 11-08-10 03:40 PM

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oh ok sorry for my confusion.

MadMikeyD 11-08-10 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by genesis_pig (Post 692981)
The ideal director for Batman would have been Kubrick. Blending a bit of surrealism with ultraviolent scenes & characters, Insanity to a shocking level & not to forget the gothic costumes.
That's the kind of stuff I DON'T want in my super-hero movies. Of course, I generally watch movies with my family, with kids ranging from 5-16. They all enjoy comic books and super-heroes, and I prefer super-hero movies we can all watch together. But then, that's how I prefer my comic books, too. I'd much rather read a good "All-Ages" comic (meaning an intelligent, fun story that kids can enjoy as well as adults) than all that "Teen" rated crap (usually meaning excessive violence and sex) they like to produce nowadays.

genesis_pig 11-08-10 03:59 PM

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Then watch the ones meant for kids.
Why is that a comic book/superhero movie is meant only for kids?

MadMikeyD 11-08-10 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by genesis_pig (Post 692991)
Then watch the ones meant for kids.
Why is that a comic book/superhero movie is meant only for kids?
I didn't say they were meant only for kids. I just don't get why people feel the need to exclude kids from the super-hero comic/movie audience by ramping up the sex and violence content. Superman: The Movie is still, IMO, the greatest super-hero movie, and the one I compare all the others to. It was an intelligent, entertaining movie that both kids and adults could enjoy. And what's wrong with that?

BTW, outside of stuff like The Incredibles and MegaMind, I don't think there are super-hero movies meant for kids anymore. Certainly not any based on the established Marvel and DC characters.

genesis_pig 11-08-10 04:22 PM

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I agree Superman is an awesome Family film..
But not all costumed superheroes are meant for kids, though they might seem appealing.

Orgazmo, Watchmen, V for Vendetta, etc.. are examples of that.
It's just that Comic books have widened their range of storytelling & not just meant for kids anymore.

While there are comics like JLA, Avengers, Spiderman for kids.. we have Doom Patrol, Animal Man, Judge Dredd for adults.
Not all adult based comics have violence or sex in them, Doom Patrol & Animal Man are classic examples of complexities in modern comics with various form of art & literary allusions.

MadMikeyD 11-08-10 04:33 PM

I can absolutely agree with you on that. I have no problem with Watchmen, V for Vendetta, and even Kick Ass as more adult geared super-hero fare. My thoughts are more about the long-time favorites, like Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, the X-Men, etc. Basically, if they've appeared on Saturday morning cartoons, IMO, these characters should remain in more family friendly territory. Not neccessarily FOR kids, but not anti-kids either.

I don't know if you read many current comics, but even the ones you listed are not always kid-friendly anymore. They have the Marvel Adventures line, which is a good all-ages line, and the DC Kids line, but I can't regularly let my younger boys read the main line books anymore.

I would like to add that I don't think comics were ever "just for kids." Stan Lee wrote many great stories in the beginning of Marvel that were not written specifically for kids, but kids could enjoy them just as easily as older readers. To me, that's the meaning of "all-ages"/"family friendly" super-hero stories.

genesis_pig 11-08-10 05:09 PM

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Spider-man & Superman can still be considered for kids..
But I guess Batman has taken many directions, I must be the only on this planet who will say this.. I think 2 or more versions of Batman can co-exist at the same time.

What I mean is that while we have Nolan's Batman ruling people's mind, there could also exist a batman in the style of Adam West. People will surely compare, but they can still be entertaining. Many will hate it, but those are not Batman fans, those are fans of Nolan's version of Batman.

So while we have Christian Bale battling realistic gangsters & anarchists, we can have a Batman loaded with an arsenal of campy gadgets with a sidekick & not to forget the traditional comic book villains.
But I guess that's why we have those Direct-to-video animated movies.

MovieMad16 11-08-10 05:16 PM

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What about Burton's Batman ?

MadMikeyD 11-08-10 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by genesis_pig (Post 693006)
So while we have Christian Bale battling realistic gangsters & anarchists, we can have a Batman loaded with an arsenal of campy gadgets with a sidekick & not to forget the traditional comic book villains.
But I guess that's why we have those Direct-to-video animated movies.
To a degree we kind of have that now. We have the Nolan films, which are not my favorites but most people like them, and also "The Brave and the Bold" cartoon, which I think is excellent. It's not as campy as the Adam West Batman, which I also love, but is much more light-hearted than many versions of Batman over the years.

Those direct-to-DVD animated movies are a good idea, but several of them have language and violence that make them also not suitable for younger kids.

MadMikeyD 11-08-10 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by MovieMad16 (Post 693011)
What about Burton's Batman ?
Burton's Batman is my favorite Batman film to date.

genesis_pig 11-08-10 05:36 PM

Re: Superman: Man of Steel
 
Batman Returns is my all time favourite.

Brave & The Bold is an awesome show, I like the way they maintain the serious image of Batman but throw him in all sort of crazy scenarios.. also teaming him up with all sort of wacky heroes.
Aquaman makes me laugh the most.

Mask of the Phantasm will always be the best Batman film till date, I am sure many will disagree.

will.15 11-08-10 05:37 PM

Re: Superman: Man of Steel
 
I don't like new Doom Patrol. I loved old Doom Patrol. My all time favorite villain team, Brotherhood of Evil. A French speaking gorilla, a French disembodied Brain, and a sexy older French headmistress. Doesn't get better than that.

MadMikeyD 11-08-10 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by genesis_pig (Post 693023)
Batman Returns is my all time favourite.

Brave & The Bold is an awesome show, I like the way they maintain the serious image of Batman but throw him in all sort of crazy scenarios.. also teaming him up with all sort of wacky heroes.
Aquaman makes me laugh the most.

Mask of the Phantasm will always be the best Batman film till date, I am sure many will disagree.
I can agree with that. "Batman: The Animated Series" is definitely my favorite interpretation of Batman. I felt that series was true to everything that was great about the characters. And Aquaman is awesome on B&tB.:D

genesis_pig 11-08-10 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by will.15 (Post 693024)
I don't like new Doom Patrol. I loved old Doom Patrol. My all time favorite villain team, Brotherhood of Evil. A French speaking gorilla, a French disembodied Brain, and a sexy older French headmistress. Doesn't get better than that.
If you mean the recent Doom Patrol, I didn't even bother reading it.
But I was mainly talking about the late 80's reincarnation of Doom Patrol by Grant Morrison, which was awesome. But I also love the original Doom Patrol a lot.

My another favourite comic character that doesn't get much notice is Kamandi.

will.15 11-08-10 06:09 PM

Re: Superman: Man of Steel
 
Morrison Doom Patrol might be too out there for a movie, but Elastigirl seemed two normal compared to the other two. Maybe if they do a movie version they replace her with Crazy Mary or make Rita more like Crazy Mary.

genesis_pig 11-08-10 06:37 PM

Re: Superman: Man of Steel
 
I really don't think Doom Patrol can be made into a movie, not unless David Lynch takes a hit at it. But it would work well as an HBO TV series.

spudracer 11-08-10 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by MadMikeyD (Post 692992)
BTW, outside of stuff like The Incredibles and MegaMind, I don't think there are super-hero movies meant for kids anymore. Certainly not any based on the established Marvel and DC characters.
Have you not seen any of the animated films produced from both Marvel and DC? How about The New Avengers, Green Lantern: First Flight, The Invincible Iron Man, to name a few. Not to mention the countless TV shows that have been on in just the last 15 years. Both Marvel and DC continue to court the little ones, but they can't put all their focus on the "Under 18" crowd.

Now, as far as a new Superman film goes, I've already put in my two cents on that.

Good day.

genesis_pig 12-02-10 02:36 PM

Re: Superman: Man of Steel
 
Superman Solely in the Hands of Zack Snyder

MadMikeyD 12-02-10 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by spudracer (Post 693127)
Have you not seen any of the animated films produced from both Marvel and DC? How about The New Avengers, Green Lantern: First Flight, The Invincible Iron Man, to name a few. Not to mention the countless TV shows that have been on in just the last 15 years. Both Marvel and DC continue to court the little ones, but they can't put all their focus on the "Under 18" crowd.
Sorry, I missed this post a while back. You mean those animated direct-to-dvd films that are still rated PG-13 and still have amped-up violence and cursing in them? Yes, I've seen a few, and some of them are very good, but they're still not neccessarily for kids. Some are more acceptable than others, of course, just like the live action movies. I don't mean "Under 18," I mean "Under 10." Just because they're animated doesn't automatically make them for kids.

I have no complaints about the tv shows. Marvel and DC have both produced very fine shows on the small screen. My issue is, why does each new Batman film have to be less and less appropriate for the 6 year old who loves "Batman: The Brave and the Bold" on tv?

will.15 12-02-10 02:48 PM

Re: Superman: Man of Steel
 
Not a big deal unless the screenplay ends up being rewritten. Ridley Scott ruined Robin Hood by throwing out the original screenplay.

genesis_pig 12-02-10 03:15 PM

Re: Superman: Man of Steel
 
About a superhero film that is more targetted for adult audiences is a very difficult topic for me to discuss.

I don't think majority of the audiences will be able to accept Batman in a universe like the one shown in Brave & the Bold.
People want their Batman in a realistic world fighting realistic people.

I for one always prefer a realistic & highly resourceful Batman in a surrealistic hyper-reality..

will.15 12-02-10 03:20 PM

Re: Superman: Man of Steel
 
Let the superherp fit the movie.

Spiderman, Superman are more family friendly.

Batman, Wolverine not.

Some like Hulk can go either way.

genesis_pig 12-02-10 03:38 PM

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The Spiderman movies seemed more like teenage romantic films.

Superman Returns was just too damn emotional.

MadMikeyD 12-02-10 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by will.15 (Post 699422)
Let the superherp fit the movie.

Spiderman, Superman are more family friendly.

Batman, Wolverine not.

Some like Hulk can go either way.
Batman and Wolverine can be done either way also, without doing the over-the-top "Brave and the Bold" style (which I am a fan of, however). As a teenager I enjoyed watching "Batman: The Animated Series" and the "X-Men" animated series with my much younger brothers. Both were written and produced in a way that could appeal to anyone without alienating one group or the other.

Part of the problem I see these days, is when they do produce a more family-friendly type super hero film (possible exception of Spider-Man), or at least what I consider to be one, the fanboys trash it to no end. So then the studios believe every hero needs to be darker and edgier like Batman and Wolverine. I enjoyed both Fantastic Four films and I thought they worked as a more family-friendly type super hero film. They didn't set records, but they didn't fail miserably at the box office either. They weren't masterpieces, of course, but the fanboy hatred of them is so intense the studio is rebooting the franchise already.

Anyway, I've probably gone on too long about that subject. As far as the new Superman movie, I hope it will not be dark and edgy, because that's not Superman. With Nolan and Snyder, I'm afraid that's what it may be, however. WB had said after The Dark Knight that they wanted all their super hero films to be dark and edgy. The trailer for Green Lantern doesn't look so dark and edgy, though, so I guess there's hope.

genesis_pig 12-07-10 02:06 PM

Re: Superman: Man of Steel
 
Update

http://www.superherohype.com/news/ar...t-art-revealed

genesis_pig 12-30-10 11:41 AM

Re: Superman: Man of Steel
 
I hear they'e adapting All Star Superman (An award winning mini-series written by Grant Morrison) into an animated movie.

For those who haven't read it, I highly recommend it, I personally hate Superman.
But I love this comic a lot.
If you haven't read any Superman comic, then let it be this one.

It is not kiddish & quite deep for a character like Superman.
It also has a very decent artwork to go along with the amazing story.

I am not sure how they plan to adapt it into an animated movie, it will be quite difficult to portray most of the elements shown in the comic.
But I hope they keep the animation close to Quitely's style.

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...42_400x600.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...jun080209d.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...perman-006.jpg

genesis_pig 12-30-10 11:54 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zPv6DiA_eM

Here's the trailer, they made it look more of an action film than it already is.

dargofargo 01-05-11 08:28 PM

Re: Superman: Man of Steel
 
the last one sucked hope its super man vs doomsday and not like they did in smallville that was a mess ugh

Movie Buff3266 01-06-11 12:32 AM

Re: Superman: Man of Steel
 
I wasn't a huge fan of 300, but Snyder is a comic fan at heart and no matter what I think he's going to have the best interrest for the series at heart.

FILMFREAK087 01-20-11 08:50 PM

Re: Superman: Man of Steel
 
Expect a LOT of Sloooooooowwwww motion shots of Superman flying.

genesis_pig 01-20-11 08:56 PM

Re: Superman: Man of Steel
 
& Superman screaming while throwing a punch (all in slow-mo)??

Pyro Tramp 01-30-11 08:30 PM

Re: Superman: Man of Steel
 
So he's been cast - http://uk.eonline.com/uberblog/b2232...imdb_tv-movies

planet news 01-30-11 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by genesis_pig (Post 709842)
& Superman screaming while throwing a punch (all in slow-mo)??
No. Not all in slow-mo. It will be half in slow-mo and then the frame rate will pick up really quickly as he initially makes contact with the guy's face and then slows down again and then the camera rotates around them 180 degrees and only then zooms into Superman's metacarpals. We then watch the punch's completion from inside of Superman's fist (in slow-mo).

TheUsualSuspect 01-31-11 02:53 AM

Henry Cavill Cast as the New Superman

http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/hen...20superman.JPG

http://images.eonline.com/eol_images...l.cm.13011.jpg

will.15 01-31-11 04:03 AM

Re: Superman: Man of Steel
 
Should be better than the last Superman.

TheUsualSuspect 01-31-11 04:34 AM

Re: Superman: Man of Steel
 
The movie or the actor? I kind of dug Routh.

Thursday Next 01-31-11 05:01 PM

Re: Superman: Man of Steel
 
I liked Henry Cavill in The Tudors. I might be actually interested in this now. Superman Returns was a bit... meh.

FILMFREAK087 01-31-11 10:02 PM

Re: Superman: Man of Steel
 
I hate to say it, but I think Hollywood needs to hang up the superhero genre. It's bloated, bleeding cadaver is starting to smell.

kcmovieman 02-01-11 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by FILMFREAK087 (Post 712193)
I hate to say it, but I think Hollywood needs to hang up the superhero genre. It's bloated, bleeding cadaver is starting to smell.

I respectfully disagree, I think the superhero movie is exactly what the summer "popcorn" movies are made for.......

Nothing better than superpowers and lots of explosive battling for a good summer movie, now I would cede that they need to get better at it, less dark, brooding, character building and more cheesy, campy action!

Sedai 02-01-11 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by kcmovieman (Post 712268)
I respectfully disagree, I think the superhero movie is exactly what the summer "popcorn" movies are made for.......

Nothing better than superpowers and lots of explosive battling for a good summer movie, now I would cede that they need to get better at it, less dark, brooding, character building and more cheesy, campy action!
Terrible idea. I'll take a serious, dark, brooding character any day over some lame ass camp. Want some camp? Go watch Batman and Robin. I've waited decades for the genre to be taken more seriously, and the films are fine just the way they are.

Yoda 02-01-11 12:36 PM

Re: Superman: Man of Steel
 
I tend to agree, but I'm definitely open to the idea that Superman is sort of grit-proof. It's hard to imagine a worthwhile conception of the character that doesn't stay sort of rosy and larger-than-life. If the character is to be made "darker," it's probably got to be largely psychological. And a Superman that's genuinely relatable isn't really Superman any more, because his other-ness is -- at the risk of contradiction from someone more knowledgeable about these things -- is kind of the point of the guy, I'd always thought.

MadMikeyD 02-01-11 12:44 PM

Re: Superman: Man of Steel
 
Scoff all you want, but Superman: The Movie is still the epitome of what a super hero movie should be.

spudracer 02-01-11 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by MadMikeyD (Post 712290)
Scoff all you want, but Superman: The Movie is still the epitome of what a super hero movie should be.
Right you are, sir. Sure, elements are laughable now, but it is still one of the truest adaptions of a comic book character, to date.


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