Messed story lines? I'm not sure what you mean by that. As for always winning, In X2 there quite a few failures on the part of the team and prof X. Pyro defected, Jean got aced, Prof X failed to help Jason Stryker, which ultimately caused his demise and Gen. Strykers descent into megalomania. The X-men don't always win.

Peter Parker got his uncle killed, and I wouldn't call that a victory.

Please elaborate on "Messed story lines" so I can respond to that. :)

Messed story lines? I'm not sure what you mean by that. As for always winning, In X2 there quite a few failures on the part of the team and prof X. Pyro defected, Jean got aced, Prof X failed to help Jason Stryker, which ultimately caused his demise and Gen. Strykers descent into megalomania. The X-men don't always win.

Peter Parker got his uncle killed, and I wouldn't call that a victory.

Please elaborate on "Messed story lines" so I can respond to that. :)

Right, Singer has already stated he would like to do The Dark Phoenix Saga, and I am all for it, as I think it is one of the better X-men storylines out there. Jean has died and returned about 6 billion times through-out the history of the comics, so I guess I don't mind of they do it once in the films (OK twice, as Famke has it going on).

As for the whereabouts of Cap and Superman, they are on shelves every month in comic stores, where they have been for decades. There are already four Superman films, I would watch the first, and maybe the second, but that's it. There is another Superman film in the works and here is the latest news just two days old.

And another related piece from 3 days ago....

As to when the hero dies and Norman Osbourne came back after being replaced by his son and many others as the green goblin... Isn't that the villain being replaced? Spiderman is still Peter Parker, correct?

AOz
Sorry but in the clone saga, Mary jane became pregant and after peter fought off all the clones and ben reily was left, he asked him to take the role of spider-man, but ben was killed by the green goblin and peter had to once again regain the role of spider-man


As for tragedies and great things happening to the hero...would you like to see them perhaps have to treat a rough case of athlete's foot or get diarrhea or something? If you mean they all have a tragedy in their life that inspires them to become a hero/villain, the X-men wouldn't fit into this group you have listed, as they are mutants, a product of the next step in the evolution of man.

AOZ
Technically the x-men do count, but i was only looking at wolverine in the picture here. But now when you think about , rogue, cyclops, almost every one of them has a back story to some tradegy in there life , doesnt even have to be a tradegy , but it has to be something that has inspired them to fight evil. Realy though ranting on isnt going to do anything, and maybe they can last , but im not sure.

One of the main underlying themes of the X-men has always been political in it's nature, addressing racism and inequity among humans. Giving the comic a heart so to speak, by addressing real, and relevant human issues. Perhaps I read to deeply into these storylines, but these are professional people creating these pieces of literature, and they have things to say about the state of the world today. That's what I look for in a comic if I am going pay for it. The cool characters and excellent artwork are also factors as well, but the writing is really what I tend to look for...

Anyway, if you are tired of the same 'ol stuff, check out some different books that have vastly different concepts in them. Check out The Watchmen, the deconstruction of the hero stereotype, written by Alan Moore, a sheer genius with mind bending writing ability that hits home.
AOZ
thanks i will, my Uncle own a shop, ill be sure to look out for them.

Also check out Planetary by Warren Ellis, or Grant Morrison's run on New X-men

Anyway, if you are tired of the same 'ol stuff, check out some different books that have vastly different concepts in them. Check out The Watchmen, the deconstruction of the hero stereotype, written by Alan Moore, a sheer genius with mind bending writing ability that hits home.

in the spider-man comics gwen stacy was the women in peters life and they met in college and she was killed by the greengoblin im positive that if that had that happen in the first place i would have been more hooked on it you dont see that sort of thing in a movie now a days

Hollywood won't stop until there are no comic book heroe's left. And they'll probably make a hell of a lot of sequels.

I saw about five minutes of footage from Sin City (Robert Rodriguez, Frank Miller and Quentin Tarantino), and it was amazing stuff. Can't hardly wait.

Spring 2005. Sometime between March and May. No firm date yet. They haven't even completely finished filming, as Frank said they still have a few pick-ups and inserts and such to shoot. Then they have to assemble it. It's going to be a great movie, and an even grerater DVD. To get three Sin City stories into Sin City the movie, obviously they each had to be cut down a little. But they've shot the entire story for each three, and all that footage will be on the eventual DVD, and you will be able to watch them as three completely seperate 50 or 55-minute movies.

Cool, huh? Wait to you see the still basically raw footage. Mickey Rourke is rising like a phoenix! Damn, did he look amazing!