Why so many jewish actors
There are not that many jews in the world, but there are very many succesful jewish actors. I am not against jews in any way, and I like to watch their movies, but I have been wondering this for a while.
Is it because the movie studios´ bosses are mostly jews and the hire jews? If so, then how do they know in casting that someone is jew? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish_actors |
Re: Why so many jewish actors
Eegads. Okay. Technically, this violates no rules, but I'm gonna put a big, fat warning: this topic will be locked and/or removed if it veers off into any of the many, many places it could go. If it remains a thoughtful analysis of the number of Jewish actors and the reasons this number may be disproportionate to the population as a whole, that's fine. Beyond that, it's gone. Fair warning.
|
Re: Why so many jewish actors
Okay, that said, I see one potentially big issue here: the assumption that there are many Jewish actors. Just looking at that list doesn't tell you much, because it's not compared to any other total. And, frankly, it kind of looks like a small list. Anyway, you'd first need to establish that there are a great many Jewish actors before even asking the question, I think.
If that were established, or if we were to simply accept it for the sake of argument, my personal theory would be that they're far more likely to enter show business to begin with. There are a number of books on Jewish culture and how it often emphasizes and encourages many of the habits and decisions that lead to various types of success, be they academic or entrepreneurial. When you grow up among family and friends who value these things, your odds of success probably go way up, and this may be self-reinforcing as a minority sees other members of that minority succeeding, and decides to go the same route. |
Jewish actors? Would it be so wrong bubby?
|
Re: Why so many jewish actors
"The following 200 pages are in this category, out of 768 total." 768 is quite a few, because you can find many famous names there.
|
Re: Why so many jewish actors
Ah, didn't see that. Feel free to ignore that part of my message. The rest, however -- about needing perspective with non-Jewish actors and the like -- still applies.
|
Re: Why so many jewish actors
There's only 800 people on that list. I wouldn't think they got hired by studio bosses because they're Jewish even if the studio boss was Jewish. What's the point in that - surely they hire the best person for the film regardless of their religion.
There's a long tradition of Jewish theatre in Eastern Europe and Russia so it stands to reason that when Jewish people emigrated to the US they would get involved in the beginnings of the film industry and success breeds success within communities. |
Originally Posted by salaam123 (Post 707695)
There are not that many jews in the world, but there are very many succesful jewish actors. I am not against jews in any way, and I like to watch their movies, but I have been wondering this for a while.
Is it because the movie studios´ bosses are mostly jews and the hire jews? If so, then how do they know in casting that someone is jew? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish_actors |
Originally Posted by salaam123 (Post 707717)
"The following 200 pages are in this category, out of 768 total." 768 is quite a few, because you can find many famous names there.
At one time there may have been a disproportionate number of Jewish prize fighters (including some of the actors listed), but that gave way in time to the Irish and Italian and then to black fighters and more recently to Hispanic fighters since the ring was a place for minorities to win fame and fortune. Same thing with crime--there were a lot of Irish and Jewish gangsters many years ago, but they gave way to the infamous Mafia as the number of Italian immigrants grew and more legtimate business opportunities opened for the Irish and Jews. Leading to the question: Is the number and percentage of Jews in the movie business increasing or (more likely, I think) decreasing from an earlier peak? And where is the proof there was ever a "disproportionate" number of Jews in the movie or any other business. That's like assuming a disproportionate number of blacks are professional dancers. Bottom line: Who really gives a damn about such divisions? |
Re: Why so many jewish actors
There are a lot of Jews in show business, probably disproportionate to the population. I don't know if it is true with contemporary comics, but they were particularly dominant in comedy for decades. Jews dominated Broadway musicals for many years. Rogers and Hart and later Hammerstein, the Gershwins, Jerome Kern, Irving Berlin, Lerner and Loewe, Stephen Sondheim, etc. The only major Broadway composer from the first half of the twentieth century who wasn't Jewish was Cole Porter.
|
Originally Posted by will.15 (Post 707985)
There are a lot of Jews in show business, probably disproportionate to the population. I don't know if it is true with contemporary comics, but they were particularly dominant in comedy for decades. Jews dominated Broadway musicals for many years. Rogers and Hart and later Hammerstein, the Gershwins, Jerome Kern, Irving Berlin, Lerner and Loewe, Stephen Sondheim, etc. The only major Broadway composer from the first half of the twentieth century who wasn't Jewish was Cole Porter.
|
Re: Why so many jewish actors
I think there are too many right-handed actors. That's right ... err left, I said it. We need more southpaws. DOWN WITH RIGHTY!!!
Note: I can't take this topic serious at all. :p |
Re: Why so many jewish actors
There are also a lot of gays in show business. I'm not going to speculate why.
|
Re: Why so many jewish actors
Why would this be an important issue :bored: who cares what race actors are :rolleyes:
|
Re: Why so many jewish actors
It's kind of interesting, but it has nothing to do with conspiracies. It has been speculated about before and the usual theory is in the earlier part of the twentieth century when Jews faced more discrimination than now, show business was an area they could enter because more polite society looked down on it.
|
It's a Zionist conspiracy I tells ya! I think the infamous "protocols" mentioned something about this.
Phase # 1: Produce Three Stooges Phase # 2: ???? Phase # 3: Profit/Initiate Takeover But seriously, this thread is a offensive joke. Is there something wrong with having a person, or persons in this case, have a religious disposition in an industry? Race, creed, sex, orientation, and all parts in between, really shouldn't matter in this day and age. It's sad some still care about these petty things. |
Originally Posted by nebbit (Post 708020)
Why would this be an important issue :bored: who cares what race actors are :rolleyes:
Originally Posted by Dog Star Man (Post 708046)
But seriously, this thread is a offensive joke. Is there something wrong with having a person, or persons in this case, have a religious disposition in an industry? Race, creed, sex, orientation, and all parts in between, really shouldn't matter in this day and age. It's sad some still care about these petty things.
|
Re: Why so many jewish actors
Jew Comics from the thirties and forties
Marx Brothers Three Stooges Ritz Brothers Eddie Cantor Danny Kay George Burns Jack Benny Bud Abbott Gentile Comics W.C. Fields Mae West Bob Hope Jimmy Durante Laurel and Hardy Lou Costello Gracie Allen Red Skelton All the famous silent comedians were Goys. Jews must open their mouths to be funny (except Harpo). |
Re: Why so many jewish actors
Admittedly, this thread is walking a fine line, but I don't think the original poster really meant anything offensive. He just noticed a trend and was curious. Does it really matter? No. No more than the afformentioned trends in boxing. Such stats only really mean anything to people of those communities. Children of whatever group that may feel like they are being looked down on will look for successful people who share their heritage as proof that they, too, can accomplish greatness. At least, that used to be the case, which was why in the old days boxers and wrestlers really played up their heritage, real or fictional.
|
Originally Posted by ash_is_the_gal (Post 708047)
to be fair, a lot of threads started here aren't what you'd call "important".
|
All times are GMT -3. The time now is 03:34 AM. |
Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright, ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
User Alert System provided by
Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) -
vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright © Movie Forums