Taxi Driver
Since no one anwered, what's so great about it? What's the point? Is he good or evil. It's absolute crap! A fmadman goine ever insane until he kills people.
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This essay is worth to watch
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Re: Taxi Driver
Originally Posted by Beatle (Post 1905323)
Since no one anwered, what's so great about it? What's the point? Is he good or evil. It's absolute crap! A fmadman goine ever insane until he kills people.
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Originally Posted by Saunch (Post 1905333)
It’s cautionary.
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You don’t think the movie is condoning what he does, right?
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Originally Posted by Beatle (Post 1905323)
Since no one anwered, what's so great about it? What's the point? Is he good or evil. It's absolute crap! A fmadman goine ever insane until he kills people.
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Originally Posted by Saunch (Post 1905344)
You don’t think the movie is condoning what he does, right?
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Originally Posted by Achoo42 (Post 1905345)
It's a movie about the perceived masculinity of a near-sociopath who wants do the right thing in his very own, narrow, notions of morality. It's also about the decay and hideousness of crime in 70s New York, unfiltered, raw, and oozing.
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Re: Taxi Driver
Originally Posted by Beatle (Post 1905354)
Originally Posted by Achoo42 (Post 1905345)
It's a movie about the perceived masculinity of a near-sociopath who wants do the right thing in his very own, narrow, notions of morality. It's also about the decay and hideousness of crime in 70s New York, unfiltered, raw, and oozing.
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If you're refering to Goodfellas, of course I hate the brutal violence. But I love it's emotional power, the way songs are incorporated. the end always makes me cry. I like some components of crime movies that aren't crime.
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Originally Posted by Beatle (Post 1905323)
Since no one anwered, what's so great about it? What's the point? Is he good or evil. It's absolute crap! A fmadman goine ever insane until he kills people.
I don't think a movie has to have a point, and the morality can be ambiguous... I loved observing. Maybe you should check out Paul Schrader's script -- http://www.lc.ncu.edu.tw/learneng/script/TaxiDriver.pdf |
Originally Posted by Beatle (Post 1905354)
What morality is it? I don't like when evil things get portrayed. Why? It's evil enough already. The better it's done, the worse. That's why I hate Hitler: The last 10 days.
Did you watch the film? Monologue here: "Listen, you ****ers, you screwheads. Here is a man who would not take it anymore. A man who stood up against the scum, the ****s, the dogs, the filth, the ****. Here is a man who stood up." "Thank God for the rain to wash the trash off the sidewalk." " I think someone should just take this city and just... just flush it down the ****in' toilet." "All the animals come out at night - whores, skunk pussies, buggers, queens, fairies, dopers, junkies, sick, venal. Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets." "Now I see this clearly. My whole life is pointed in one direction. There never has been a choice for me." He's seen as a hero at the end for what he does. People think he's some sort of wonderful vigilante, despite his mental instability. |
Re: Taxi Driver
Originally Posted by Beatle (Post 1905567)
If you're refering to Goodfellas, of course I hate the brutal violence. But I love it's emotional power, the way songs are incorporated. the end always makes me cry. I like some components of crime movies that aren't crime.
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Originally Posted by matt72582 (Post 1905586)
I don't think a movie has to have a point, and the morality can be ambiguous... I loved observing.
Maybe you should check out Paul Schrader's script -- http://www.lc.ncu.edu.tw/learneng/script/TaxiDriver.pdf |
Originally Posted by Beatle (Post 1905596)
It doesn't. Like Magical mystery tour. As a christian, Ihave to disagree on morality. There has to be morality, otherwise it's chaos, which is what I thought it was until I read the post bf this.
As a human being, I'm watching for something that fascinates me. I also know that people are never all good or all bad. I didn't find it chaotic at all, but more of a character study, and a view of modern life, mostly between people, and how each handles conflict, motivations, etc. |
Originally Posted by Achoo42 (Post 1905588)
What morality? The entire film is set on Travis' climactic reaction to the crime in New York, which he sees as a complete degeneration of what he thinks society should be as.
Did you watch the film? Monologue here: "Listen, you ****ers, you screwheads. Here is a man who would not take it anymore. A man who stood up against the scum, the ****s, the dogs, the filth, the ****. Here is a man who stood up." "Thank God for the rain to wash the trash off the sidewalk." " I think someone should just take this city and just... just flush it down the ****in' toilet." "All the animals come out at night - whores, skunk pussies, buggers, queens, fairies, dopers, junkies, sick, venal. Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets." "Now I see this clearly. My whole life is pointed in one direction. There never has been a choice for me." He's seen as a hero at the end for what he does. People think he's some sort of wonderful vigilante, despite his mental instability. I saw it many times over tryingto get it. 1st time was maybe even int he 70s. He's sort of like Jesus, but in a f+up way? But essentially good. Everything else is evenmore f+cked up. So he destroys it. |
Re: Taxi Driver
Originally Posted by Beatle (Post 1905605)
Originally Posted by Achoo42 (Post 1905588)
What morality? The entire film is set on Travis' climactic reaction to the crime in New York, which he sees as a complete degeneration of what he thinks society should be as.
Did you watch the film? Monologue here: "Listen, you ****ers, you screwheads. Here is a man who would not take it anymore. A man who stood up against the scum, the ****s, the dogs, the filth, the ****. Here is a man who stood up." "Thank God for the rain to wash the trash off the sidewalk." " I think someone should just take this city and just... just flush it down the ****in' toilet." "All the animals come out at night - whores, skunk pussies, buggers, queens, fairies, dopers, junkies, sick, venal. Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets." "Now I see this clearly. My whole life is pointed in one direction. There never has been a choice for me." He's seen as a hero at the end for what he does. People think he's some sort of wonderful vigilante, despite his mental instability. I saw it many times over tryingto get it. 1st time was maybe even int he 70s. He's sort of like Jesus, but in a f+up way? But essentially good. Everything else is evenmore f+cked up. So he destroys it. |
Originally Posted by Mr_TagoMago (Post 1905595)
Do you think goodfellas would be better if they skipped over showing the violence and tip toed around the horrible deeds?
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Originally Posted by Beatle (Post 1905620)
It's obviously necessary, since it's a part of the story, but I don't like it.
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Re: Taxi Driver
Originally Posted by Achoo42 (Post 1905641)
Originally Posted by Beatle (Post 1905620)
It's obviously necessary, since it's a part of the story, but I don't like it.
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