Folk Song Tournament
 

Here are our 12 Players

Skepsis
Sexy Celebrity
Derek
Gbgoodies
Christine
Miss Vicky
Theo
Jiraffejustin
R.P. McMurphy
Cricket
Swan
Godoggo

With 12 people everyone gets 10 nominations and 8 people get 11. Just go ahead and do your 10 for now and if one more person pops in and says they want to join they can have the remaining eight nominations. If no one does then we will figure that out later.

I'm not starting this until Sunday (possible Sat.) but I want everyone to get their nominations in and everything ironed out before this weekend so we don't get off to a late start.

If your wondering if a song is Folk or not, these links will help you:

List of Folk Singers

Article on Folk Music

Or you can look it up on Wiki or ask in this thread for our opinion.

You can post your nominations when your ready. :) Try to have them in by Friday.

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I'll get mine in when I get home. Probably in an hour or so. I'll have to figure out a couple of more since I only picked 8 so far.

Don't Mess Around With Jim-Jim Croce

Everybody's Talkin'-Harry Nilsson

Let's Get Together-The Youngbloods

Cats in the Cradle-Harry Chapin

In the Year 2525-Zager and Evans

Down By the River-Neil Young

One Toke Over the Line-Brewer and Shipley

Sunshine Superman-Donovan

Fire and Rain-James Taylor

Monday Monday-The Mamas and The Papas

Edited to add the links. Please note that I changed one song, and a few of the artists have been changed.

Please let me know if that's okay.


Arlo Guthrie - City of New Orleans
Peter, Paul and Mary - Puff The Magic Dragon
Crosby, Stills Nash & Young - Teach Your Children
Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, Johnny Cash, Ricky Skaggs - Will The Circle Be Unbroken
The Byrds - Turn, Turn, Turn
John Denver - Leaving on a Jet Plane
Judy Collins - Both Sides Now
The Kingston Trio - Where Have All The Flowers Gone
Bob Dylan = Blowin’ in the Wind
Neil Diamond - Mr. Bojangles

Right, I'm a little hazy on what exactly constitutes folk music, so I'm more or less going strictly by what Wikipedia tells me is. Let me know if you have any objections to these.

Andrew Bird - Oh No
Bob Dylan - Song to Woody
Bon Iver - Skinny Love
Cat Stevens - Father and Son
Donovan - Catch the Wind
Nickel Creek - Reasons Why
Sarah Jarosz - Ring Them Bells
Sara Watkins - You & Me
Dave Van Ronk - Green, Green Rocky Road
Punch Brothers - No Concern of Yours
Oscar Isaac - The Death of Queen Jane

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Cricket's list is really Rock/Pop or Folk Rock as is a few of gbgoodies' but I think that's going to be par for the course. Once you electrify or have more than 3 or 4 chords to a song you start moving away from what's considered Folk IMHO.

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Derek Vinyard's Nominations :
Bob Dylan - Knockin on Heaven's Door
Simon & Garkunfel - Mrs.Robinson
The Byrds - Mr.Tambourine Man
I got you, Babe - Sonny and Cher
Mungo Jerry - In The Summertime
Stealers Wheel - Stuck In The Middle With You
Van Morrison - Moondance
Donovan - Hurdy Gurdy Man
Neil Young - Heart Of Gold
The Everly Brothers - All I Have to Do Is Dream
Doc Watson - Amazing Grace

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F*cking Skepsis nominating Bon Iver before I do!

That's why I posted my list before taking the time to find the links. I looked at a whole bunch of lists of folk music, and picked the songs that I like from those lists, so all of my songs came from folk music lists online. But I want to make sure that they're okayed here as well.

Once I know that all the songs are okayed, I'll add the links.

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links to be added

Bob Dylan - It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)
Dick Justice - Henry Lee
Fleet Foxes - Mykonos
Fleet Foxes - White Winter Hymnal
Harry McClintock - Big Rock Candy Mountain
Joanna Newsom - Emily
The Microphones - I Want Wind to Blow
Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
Oscar Isaac - Fare Thee Well (Dink's Song)
Woody Guthrie - I Ain't Got No Home In This World Anymore
Woody Guthrie - This Land Is Your Land

Most of those are really folksy, so cool. The only one I was iffy on was Mr. BoJangles, but I looked it up and it's classified as folk. Plus the more I think about it the more folksy it becomes to me. Plus I love that song. So yeah, you're good.

Great. I'll add the links in a little while. (As soon as I finish watching the Robin Williams tribute special from PBS last night.)

I actually had 5 of those on my list but you beat me to them

Sorry, Derek. No on both The Doors and The Dropkick Murphy's. Look through these and see if there is anything you like:

http://www.folkalley.com/lists/index.php?listid=1

Sorry about that. Like I said, I don't know much about folk music, so I won't be surprised if everybody already knows all of my songs. There aren't a lot of surprises on my list.

Dropkick Murphys are on your list .... so I don't know why it's not eligible ... but yes I switch The Doors

ha

Phranc - Bulldagger Swagger
Cowboy Junkies - Misguided Angel
The King's Singers - Danny Boy
Chumbawumba - The Diggers' Song
Cher- One Tin Soldier
Indigo Girls - Closer to Fine
Phranc - Gertrude Stein
Robyn Hitchcock - I Often Dream of Trains
Cat Stevens - Oh Very Young
Pete Seeger - Goodnight Irene
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hlWTASnnft4"]The Dubliners - Whisky in the Jar[/url]

It's quite alright; there's another 3 songs that I can only find live versions to, and I don't want to do that, so I'll just find a couple more.

Grizzly Bear - On a Neck, On a Spit (nominating this again because it's probably my favorite folk song and certainly my favorite song by the band)
Joanna Newsom - Inflammatory Writ
Mumford & Sons, Laura Marling & Dharohar Project - To Darkness/Kripa (not a Mumford and Sons fan but I love this one project they did)
Bon Iver - Creature Fear
Nick Drake - Day is Done (the God of folk)
Neil Young - Old Man
Vashti Bunyan - Train Song
Pink Floyd - If (where my username originates)
Jose Gonzalez - Killing for Love
Feist - Lonely Lonely
Leonard Cohen - The Stranger Song

California Dreamin' already won a tournament

That song? I looked it up and it was listed as Celtic Punk like I figured it would be. Which list is it on?

:highfive:

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dropkick_Murphys It said Folk rock and the original song was written by Woody guthrie a Folk Singer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I'm_Shipping_Up_to_Boston so I guess it's eligible

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Ooh, I forgot about Nick Drake. And probably a bunch of others. I trust I can edit my nominations up until Friday, Godoggo?

:)

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here's a screenshot of your page on your 1st post

http://gyazo.com/9f7ad956beb06dbe3ba5f5fee188bffb

Sure can.

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My favorite Nick Drake song is actually Man in a Shed, but I nominated that in one of the last tournaments.

It's written by a folk singer and preformed by a band that sometimes preforms folkish type music but that particular song isn't listed as folk.

Everybody knows that song. What is everyone else's opinion about it? It's pretty hard to be folk to me but I'll take everyone's else's opinion into consideration.

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Oh wait, we get ten noms! I'm stupid.

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I definitely wouldn't call it folk, personally.

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I wouldn't consider it folk either. Sorry Derek.

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Would "In the Aeroplane Over the Sea" be considered folk? I think it's indie-folk-rock, but what is the ruling on it?

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Kingston Trio - El Matador
John Stewart - Over the Hill
Cat Stevens - Morning Has Broken
Mumford and Sons - Winter Winds
The Folksmen - Old Joe's Place
Minstrels of Mayhem - Johnny Jump Up
Jim Croce - Bad, Bad Leroy Brown
Mitch and Mickey - A Kiss At the End of the Rainbow
Tan Sleeve - When Lindsey Buckingham Shaved His Beard
The Kingston Trio - Tom Dooley
John Stewart - Diamonds In The Coal

I've nominated an indie folk song (my cowboy junkies one) I want to have a lot of different type of folk so I'm fine with it.

I'm happy I did this tournament. I think just about everyone has nominated a song I really love.

It's got folk instruments in it, has an Irish folk quality but it's also performed more as Punk. Punk Folk I'd call it.

Great pick, I had that marked down but didn't want to pick 2 from the same artist.

I already nominate Mr.Tambourine Man :D !

If there's any question about a song, just check it's Wikipedia page.

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My nominations are in ! and I swap Dropkick Murphys for another song so everyone is happy :)

Can I change one of my songs to this song?

John Denver - Leaving on a Jet Plane

If it's okay, then remove "Alice's Restaurant". Thanks

Thanks Derek. I wasn't trying to be a jerk but I'm always too loosey goosey on these tournaments then everyone else gets unhappy.

I do love that song by the way.

Gbgoodies and everyone else, you can edit and change all you want up until Friday.

Okay, I switched it out for something else.

no problem it's a game after all :)

Thanks. I fixed it in my post on the first page of this thread. :)

I think there's 1 there that's definitely not folk, and probably 2 more, but that's for others to decide.

Sexy Celebrity's Nominations

Tracy Chapman - Fast Car

Tracy Chapman - Behind the Wall

Johnny Mandel - Suicide is Painless

Steeleye Span - All Around My Hat

Fred Eaglesmith - Cigarette Machine

Islaja - Skeleton Walk

Ralph McTell - When I Was a Cowboy

Donovan - Season of the Witch

Cass Elliott - Make Your Own Kind of Music

The Monkees - As We Go Along

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Here are my ten, I'll add the links tomorrow

Dick Justice - Henry Lee
Fleet Foxes - Mykonos
Fleet Foxes - White Winter Hymnal
Harry McClintock - Big Rock Candy Mountain
Joanna Newsom - Emily
The Microphones - I Want Wind to Blow
Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
Oscar Isaac - Fare Thee Well (Dink's Song) - not the version with Mumford
Woody Guthrie - I Ain't Got No Home In This World Anymore
Woody Guthrie - This Land Is Your Land

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I'll tell you one thing -- I don't want 11 songs.

I'm really hoping to get that 13th person to take eight nominations. That will take away the risk of running into a tie every round.

I'm finishing my noms tomorrow. I'm off to bed.

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I just didn't know what to nominate. I was searching and searching through people I had never heard of before.

I didn't know what to nominate either, so I just started searching through sites about folk music looking for artists and songs that I recognized.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aMhCLI8EKo

Nominate this, not that it's Folk really. Great lyrics too.

I really didn't recognize anything, though. I recognized a lot of stuff people had already nominated, but by then it was too late to nominate it myself. I'm not much of a music person, despite the several Song Tournament wins I've had.

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I think there's quite a few noms that aren't folk, but I don't mind. Have to warn you that I'm sticking with traditional music from Europe so I might be assaulting your ears ;)
Back later with mine

Absolutely love the Dropkick Murphys and they do sing some traditional songs in a punky/heavy way. Great to listen to when you're feeling a bit miserable :D

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Leonard Cohen - Suzanne
Nick Drake - The Thoughts Of Mary Jane
Phil Ochs - When I'm Gone
Phil Ochs - I Ain’t Marching Anymore
Devendra Banhart - Freely
Sufjan Stevens - For The Widows In Paradise, For The Fatherless In Ypsilanti
Joan Baez - It Ain't Me, Babe
Joan Baez - 500 Miles
Joan Baez - Diamonds & Rust
Donovan - Colors
Jake Bugg - Lightning Bolt

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I've switched out Joni Mitchell - A Case of You, Peter, Paul & Mary - Early in the Morning and Simon & Garfunkel - April Come She Will, so those are up for grabs if anyone wants 'em. Think I'm happy with my ballot now.

here's mine.

Amália Rodrigues Fado Português
example of Portuguese Fado music - tradtionally melancholic haunting songs of loss, sung by one of the most famous singers

Great Voices of Bulgaria Womens Choir - Pilentze Pee
I heard these women on tv a while back and their voices stopped me in my tracks. I think it's beautiful, not sure what you'll think but gonna give it a chance!

The next two are songs from my home town Liverpool, sung by the sailors a lot in pubs. You always used to get them sung at closing time :)
The Spinners - the Leaving of Liverpool

The Spinners - Maggie May

The Dubliners and the Pogues - Irish Rover
Thought I'd put up this live version where you can actually see Shane MacGowan standing up looking relatively normal!

Rapalje - Raggle Taggle Gipsy
this one's a real multinational one - a Scottish song sung by a Dutch Celtic band.

Billy Bragg and Kirsty McColl - New England
Billy Bragg wrote this, but I like this version with the much missed Kirsty McColl singing with him.

Suo Gan - Charlotte Church

Traditional Welsh lullaby sung by the young Charlotte Church

The Strawbs - Part of the Union
very reminiscent of the 70s folk rock sound

Ewan McColl and Peggy Seeger - Sweet Thames Flow Softly
Ewan McColl is the dad of the above Kirsty

I've added a sea shanty

Johnny Collins - Leave Her Johnny

Anyone need a song? Here's a good one and it's even live.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_SrYqLrljU

That's a great song. Maybe even good enough to win. :)

Yeah, I just wanted to keep it close to folk. A lot of what I've looked up that I wasn't sure about was listed as folk, but I haven't had a chance to go through everything.

I was very surprised to look up Stuck in the Middle With You, and see that listed as folk rock.

I look at it before to put it in my nominations :cool:

I give you credit; I don't know how you would even think to check that song as folk.

You look up Moondance?

of course I did ! it's listed as Irish Folks

That's a good pick then:up:

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I think Folk Rock can be a fuzzy area and a host of music that can't be defined by other genres gets thrown into it. It's also not really Folk. It's like how Hard Rock, Prog Rock, etc. isn't Rock and Roll. They share a name because because one branched out from another but they're separate genres.

I know what you're saying VFN, but I don't know that there's much to do about it. A lot of people who grew up listening to Elvis didn't think The Stones were Rock 'N' Roll. Music just evolves. New country doesn't sound anything like old country either. I don't have a clue personally how to classify it; that's why I looked up all my songs.

I know Van Morrison is Irish but I can't see Moondance being described as Irish Folk. I may be wrong but I see it as a fusion of Jazz, Rhythm and Blues, Pop, Folk and more I suppose but it's not Folk or Irish Folk.

Yeah, I understand. I'm not sure how Folk is even really defined though a lot of what's been submitted is really in the overarching Rock/Popular category.

Yeah, the album Moondance may have Irish Folk influences or a song/s that can be deemed Irish Folk in some fashion, but the song Moondance is not Irish Folk. At least. not that i can see. I think Christine said she knows Irish Folk so maybe she can chime in.

VFN is right; this is the link to the song itself-

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moond..._Morrison_song)

No, Moondance isn't Irish folk; it's not even close but it sounds close enough to the 70's type of folk.

There are songs that are probably just the other side of folk being nominated but as long as there not so far off as to be ridiculous, I'm not going to be that hard about it.

I would rather a few iffy songs get in than to suck the fun out of this by nitpicking. As long as the majority is really folksy, I'm happy.

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This is Godoggo's tournament. Let her decide. If she wants anyone's opinion she'll ask for it.

So I guess we are just waiting for R.P to nominate his, JJ to add his links and me to finish mine which were almost done but apparently I screwed up and lost most of my nominations.

It doesn't look like we are getting another player, so I need three people to volunteer to only get ten noms. sexy already said he didn't want eleven so I'm counting him.

Theo already accidentally nominated 11 and this is his first tournament so I'll let him go with 11.

I'll stick with only 10 noms. :)

O.k, thanks gbg. Two more volunteers to take ten.

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Added my links.

I'm good with just the 10

Thanks, Cricket. I'll go ahead and put RP down for ten as he doesn't have any nominated yet.

So I need JJ, Christine, Miss Vicky, Skepsis and Derek to add one more song.

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Give me a minute

Swan needs to add one too. I thought he had 11 but he just has one that takes up two lines. :)

Same with Theo, so both of them need to add a song.

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I kind of want to nominate Bob Dylan's Desolation Row but that's like a 12 minute song.

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Done! A new version of a very old English ballad.

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Okay, let me come up with something.

I nominated it, then decided not to use it. You should go for it.

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Added one.

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Okay, I added one.

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Listening to a couple songs, trying to decide which to nominate.

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okay decided

Bob Dylan - It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)

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Done. I couldn't decide which Jake Bugg song to nominate so I just picked his most popular one.

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Oh hang on for me, I just got back from work

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I've added a sea shanty

Johnny Collins - Leave Her Johnny

Joe Egan and Gerry Rafferty (Stealers Wheel) sang in folk clubs around Scotland, Rafferty was in a folk group called the Humblebums with the Scottish comedian Billy Connelly before he went out on his own and did stand up, so I guess they have the folk label, Rafferty died in 2011, a very sad end, alcoholism playing a part :(

I volunteer Derek

I add one song !

Baker Street is one of my favorite songs